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I'm running this poll since the one created by Armis is diluted (i.e. he has too many options to throw off the results.)

The question is simple:

Would a reasonable person look at this title and assume it was a charitable organization?  
PICISI: Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas

This poll will only run for one day, since everyone who cares to vote will vote within that time.

Thanks.

There are too many threads that are scamming money out of people investments.
Charity donation scams are the most common. Here is an example  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059713.0 which was created moments ago

I would never donate to anyone that posts something that collects money for charity on this forum. I will only trust any trusted charity or startup group collecters like indiegogo or kickstarter, but only if there is a reasonable reason

Looking at the topic I could understand such an organization would engage in charitable/philanthropic endeavours to support inventors, would-be enterpreneurs, etc. So, to reply to your question, I would say: Yes, his company may be understood as a charity.

I don't see any other way that that could be interpreted? Clearly designed to appear as a non profit / charity.

I created this poll because Armis has been approaching non profit entities like Hobonickels and soliciting donations from them, under the guise of being non-profit himself.  Now, after he has the coins, he is changing his tune.   :-\

hahahaa, Vod you not only telegraphed (fed / led) what you wanted them to focus on, you completely left out "PICISI".


According to Vod that is a "charity" but if you do a search for that I don't see anything about a charity.

When I look up PICISI again I don't see anything about a 'charity'.  So in what context did you see that and what research was done before believing it was a charity?

  




Where is your proof of your accusations and claims?  

I'm only interested in what a reasonable person would believe seeing your organization name.  I know that even if something like 20% of people believed I represented a charity, I would change the name as not to deceive people.  But that's me and my stupid morals.   :-\

I'm trying to be as fair as possible to you so I've added the PICISI that you complained about. 

Vod purposefully lead you to the wrong conclusion in an effort to have company where he is at.
That's why he left off "PICISI" and why he said "charitable" in his OP.


I know what the entity is, I created it,  but looking at what Vod did he would have lead me astray too with the way he posed the question.


   

The title of the poll is your company name:
"PICISI: Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas"

The question is simply written and not open to much interpretation.

Let's just see what the people think - I'm not going to campaign any longer at the polling station.  

It's not reasonable to place "charitable" in the question unless you want to lead the witness/judge.

If you replaced the word "charitable" with the word "Philanthropic" the skewed results would 'reasonably' go in the direction of people saying: 'yes, I believe it's a Philanthropic org'.

If you want to be so fair you  simply ask: "What type of entity is: "PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas)?" 
and yes you must include the parenthesis because it has never be shown without them until you did it.

Then wouldn't you leave the word Philanthropic out of the company name if you didn't want people to think that?    :-\

 
hahahaa, You don't have to campaign at the polling station when you already rigged the ballot questions.

1) you first left off PICISI
2) you left off the parenthesis
3) you lead the viewer with the term "charitable" in the question

how could anyone that is reasonable make any other choice,



 

I would re-cast my vote as I left before. I also left the same vote on your own thread. IMO, your thread topic is misleading since seems to represent your company as a charitable/philantrophic/no-profit org when in reality this isn't the case. I would suggest you to rebrand your company & offer to refund donated BTC to people who have already sent you funds.

So you state that the three people who have answered "no" so far are not reasonable?

ahha, there you go, the company name is PICISI

You are jumping to the wrong conclusions over and over again, at least now you are not making such grand leaps any more.   
I know you will eventually come to the truth, my hope is that you do the right thing and clean up the trail of mess you are creating.

Someone just sent me an PM using your terminology.

When you create a mess you should do the responsible thing to clean-up after yourself, not just in the feedback but also in the posts because
you just went crazy with that.

Why did you do it? 

So far 50% of people think you are a charity!  Even if it were half that, wouldn't an honest person think maybe he/she was wrong?

Change begins at home, friend.  Re-evaluate your business name and if you are going to entrust yourself as the final say for donations, make yourself publicly known.  None of this anonymous coward crap - anonymous just means you intend to scam.  I can't help you until you help yourself.

I'm saying any reasonable person would go where lead, especially if you put blinders on them so that they only see in the direction you are leading them.


That's why I said if you substituted the word "Philanthropic" for the word you chose to use your results would reasonably go in the new direction because that is where the question is leading.


Notice I didn't demand context, because that would be too easy, but you saw it in context, and even after all of your subsequent posts you are still stubbornly maintaining the falsehoods. 

If I created PICISI and I'm telling you that it is not a charity why would you try to squeeze it into a box where it doesn't fit? 


Remember it has not launched as of yet, however there are over 10 different articles on the subject because I know the plan is complex, I want to make sure that people understand the key aspects of the plan.   All of the different threads that specifically cover segments of the plan and program so that everyone is invited to be on the same page.   There is no mention of it being a Charity other that what you have mentioned and here still suggesting. 


If you google PICISI what do you get, if you go to youtube and search PICISI what do you get, if you search in this forum for PICISI what do you get? 

I still don't understand how you got there, but I do know that you have a whole lot of opportunity and evidence to no longer be there. 

So the five people that have voted no could not be reasonable, since they didn't go where I lead, especially with the blinders I put on them?   ::)

You're not making sense any more.  Talk to you later. 

The company is branded as PICISI, not as either of the polls indicate.  I did the poll to see how many people would see it as Vod saw it, his logic was that a word amongst 6 tells you what the company is, instead of 6 words actually telling you what the company does.  PICISI is not a 6-word name company, its a 1-word name company -- PICISI.

As for donations, anyone that made a donation to PICISI is more than welcome to receive a 100% refund of any and all donations anytime they wish.  That is not only for past donation that also applies to future donations, future sponsor payment, and future fees for services too.  I have a Satisfaction Guaranteed policy.  We only want what you are willing to give regardless of of how hard we worked for it or how much we deserve it.  PICISI will be run with integrity if someone is dissatisfied with our service we will do what is reasonable to make them satisfied. 

Being a PICISI sponsor is an honor that very many will want, because we will show that we are doing good things for the CC industry and for people in general. 

Vod, the company name is PICISI your poll doesn't pertain to the business name it pertains to how you structured it, and based on its struct I expected it to lean far more in your intended direction.   I suspect that those who didn't vote as you intended chose to not vote blindly (they did their homework) -- which you should have done.   

Vod, your donation demands are uncalled for because you know they are voluntary and you also know that they are 100% refundable. 

Well, I cannot sleep, so I'll just comment on this:


Nice Policy.  But... Guaranteed/Backed by what?   dunno

You are anonymous and refuse to identify yourself.
You report to no one - you can close down and run off with the coins at any time.
The coins are non-reversible and cannot be claimed back.
You cannot be held accountable civilly or legally.

Your guarantee is not worth the time you took to type it.   :-\

I thought that was made clear in his business' name

https://i.imgflip.com/lht24.jpg

Vod, hahaha you're trying to lead me now?   

The fact remains that if you lead someone in a particular direction it is reasonable to expect them to go there, and it is likewise reasonable for them to actually go there.

If someone went in a different direction than where you chose to lead them it likely means is that they chose to go where they wanted to go, but it wasn't because you didn't try to lead them.  The point is if you remove the leading they will go where they want to go, that would be fair.

Every stitch of info about PICISI I've read so I know what's out there, that is why I could say without reservation that your campaign is the cause of the issue you have. 

You are looking for trouble where no trouble existed until you manufactured it.   

Are you willing to resign BCT once it is shown that PICISI is above board?   I think you have made very bad claims and should atone for the wholesale unrighteousness that you are slinging my way.   You made many negative claims the sum and substance is that you believe something is a scam.  You believe it so much that you not only issued negative posts at multiple threads, and issued negative feedback, but you purposefully also went to my sponsors and recklessly and irresponsibly impugned my username's character.  I know you are wrong, and I know you believe you are correct in making the false claims as you damaged my username's character.  It's only fair that when I prove you wrong that you lose something of substance.   So are you willing to put your bct Vod account where you mouth is, if I prove you wrong you resign.   

Vod you are unreasonable.

You need to read one of the 15 articles about PICISI.  I think when you do that you will find a common thread that says integrity.


But let's play out your above scenario, what money do you expect to be donated to PICISI?  What purpose do you suppose funds would be donated to PICISI?
We will start there

Yes, I understand the "long con", thanks.  :)  

see that Vod, your reckless actions has caused a volunteer to question the truth.

Your actions, not mine.

Stop playing anonymous pretend charity.   :-\

Put your money where you mouth is Vod, you call it a con I say you are wrong, back up your words with your membership.  I prove you wrong you resign.


I already know you know little about PICISI because you called it a charity.

If you "understand" so much kindly tell me how PICISI will operate?






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Wrong Vod, it was you who made the false claims, it is you that can't support your claims, and it is you that don't know about PICISI but are acting like you can see some negative future for it.

Back your words up, hypocrite.
 
I'm not begging for donations pretending to be a charity.

PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas) is an crowdfunding startup that will accept all significant currency types (fiat and crypto) for campaigns conducted at the site. PICISI is expected to launch in a month we are actively seeking administrators for to run the site.

PICISI is designed to have an 8 person management team: Executive Director, Deputy Director, Assistant Director, Content Director, Promotion Director, Communications Director, Finance Director, and Compliance Director. At present only 2 positions are filled (Executive Director and Assistant Director). Let’s take a brief look at each position and how they relate to the organization.

1) The Executive Director is the chief executive who is finally responsible to all PICISI stakeholders. His vision for PICISI can be summed up in three words: Promotion, Promotion, Promotion! Promotion is how the PICISI brand will be established, how each sponsor’s message is conveyed, and how each campaign will realize its potential.

2) The Deputy Director is in charge when the Executive Director is unavailable or when so directed by the Executive Director. Ideally this person would be a great compliment to the Executive Director, he would provide a healthy contrast on issues and opinions. Perhaps more focused on day-to-day micro issues as the Exec Dir focuses on day-to-day macro issues. Someone with a healthy understanding of all of the following: crowdfunding, cryptoccurrency, charity, social networking, and business law may be an ideal fit.
         
This position is available.

3) The Assistant Director is responsible for assisting the Executive Director and the Deputy Director, however at times he may also serve other directors as the need arises. Much of his day is filled with social networking assignments.

4) The Finance Director/ Auditor is responsible for all financial record keeping, filings, reportings, taxes, and licenses; also responsible for site security, internal audits, and member services. It is expected to cost in excess of $1M to secure all of the necessary licenses to operate at targeted locations around the world, He must map and implement a strategic plan to secure the licenses with minimal financial disruption of operations. Will do periodic site security audits to test strengths and uncover weakness. In consultation with the Compliance Director the Finance Director will handle all Customer Service issues to the reasonable satisfaction of all concerned.
         
This position will become available after the site has launched.

5) The Content Director is responsible for everything visible on the site, the primary focus is campaigns, campaigns are the heart of the site his job is to produce large volumes of high quality campaigns. The secondary focus is securing sponsorships. The following categories are of high interest to us for various reasons:
Technology - technology is the triple crown of crowdfunding, it looks good, solves a problem, and often exceeds goal expectations.
Science Research - direct category affiliation with specific purpose coins, eg: EMC2, GRC, and FLDC.
Gaming and Game Development - direct category affiliation with specific purpose coins, eg: HYPER and GMC coin 
Politics - direct category affiliation with specific purpose coins, eg: RPC. More importantly in the USA we are gearing up for our next presidential election (2016) so many election campaigns have already started fundraising. 
Education - direct category affiliation with specific purpose coins, eg: EDU coin 
Music - direct category affiliation with a specific purpose coin, eg: Metal coin. 
Renewable Energy Projects - direct category affiliation with specific purpose coins, eg:SLR, GRE, and ENRG.
       
Purpose driven cryptocurrencies such as those presented above should become sponsors of PICISI campaigns in the respective categories -- it just makes sense.
         
This position is available.

6) The Promotion Director is responsible for promoting the site to sponsors, organizers, members, donors, and media to generate business. Responsible for instructing and monitoring the Promotion Contractors and Campaign Contractors. This person is an trainer as well as a hard-sales guy, he is expected to receive unassigned sales traffic and have a high close rate. This person must be knowledgeable, personable,and patient, yet know when and how to close a deal.
         
7) The Communications Director is responsible for the PICISI message, he is the face and voice of PICISI, his top priority is having our site make news all day, everyday somewhere around the world: via press release, article, and/or interview.
         
This position is available.

8) The Compliance Director is responsible for enforcement of site policies and procedures, and all things judicial in nature eg: ranking, feedback, and reviews. More importantly he is responsible for work certification -- he determines if an assignment was completed satisfactorily. This person must be knowledgeable, reasonable, and resolute.
         
This position will be available after the site has launched.

In the beginning all admins are expected to pitch-in where needed, as the site matures the role of each director will become more defined.

Of the 8 administrators the following 6 are considered critical for launch: Executive Director, Deputy Director, Assistant Director, Content Director, Promotion Director, and Communications Director; currently we have two (Executive Director and Assistant Director), so if you or someone you know is interested in being part of PICISI’s management team please let me know.


PICISI Admin Compensation Plan

All PICISI work is compensated with PICISI issued tokens.  Once the site starts earning fees, the amount received in fiat will be used to buy PICISI issued tokens at our favorite exchange(s) -- when we secure an official exchange sponsor all of our purchases will be executed exclusively at the site of the official exchange sponsor for PICISI.

Since the token is tied to the specific performance of PICISI and we will actually used the token in the day-to-day operation of the business the token is expected to be both strong and stable.

I am glad to see some of this sites two most notorious aholes have made contact with each other. While Vod is a child and seeks drama much like a child might seek loud noises and flashing lights, in my interactions with Armis he has shown himself to be a divisive, manipulative, compulsive liar that will cry loudly about being victimized as he is in the process of harassing others.  IMO he has no moral compass, and I wouldn't trust Armis with an asspenny. I have zero doubt he would be willing to lie to get what he wants, because I have witnessed it first hand. I was removed from the default trust for making Armis with a negative because I knew then what you idiots are just bothering to look at now after hastily siding with him and his cries of victimization. He is full of shit.

I didn't say you were begging for donation, nor did I accuse you of being a charity. 

You are the one making false accusations, you are the one claiming something is a charity when you were clearly told over and over again that PICISI is not a charity.
 
My words are back up by performance.  How do you intend on proving any of the negative claims you have made?  I already know that you can't support your claims so it's a matter of the penalty for your wrongful action.

Already one sponsor and one volunteer has needlessly quested our relationship because of your fear mongering.

I was wondering how you would react to this - I read the negative feedback you left for Armis.   :)

In any case, time to take a step back and get more input from the community about this issue.

With or without the acronym and the parenthesis, this entity's title includes the words "philanthropic" and "charity" doesn't it?
Of course the name has been constructed to imply non profit, charitable, philanthropic activity.

Whether or not this is legit or a scam is a separate subject, but to an outsider the name implies it is something that it isn't, which is not a promising start imo.

That's a yes vote.

Ever since computers ushered in the internet age things that were only available locally, regionally, or nationally become available globally. Something as simple as making a friend could grow to epic levels with social media; a common action like ‘passing a collection plate in church’ could turn into a crowdfunding site; and a national currency could turn into an international cryptocurrency. An innovative blending of these resources has resulted in the formation of PICISI.

PICISI is a crowdfunding site, presently under construction, that will accepts fiat and cryptocurrency. Pi is short for PICISI issued currency, the currency code is ‘NUMUS’ (latin for currency).

Pi is designed to serve 4 purposes: 1) act as a fundraising vehicle, 2) act as a means to buy promotion services internationally, 3) act as a cryptocurrency option for organizers at the site, and 4) be a cryptocurrency option for sponsors buying sponsorship packages.

Pi will act as a fundraising vehicle, here Pi is no different than all other currencies beit crypto or fiat — every currency’s first purpose is to raise funds to develop an idea. PICISI self-directed fundraising efforts are specific and limited to: start-up funds, site upgrades, and procurement of multiple operational licenses worldwide.

Normally with a currency once funds are raised and removed they are never returned, as such the value of the currency will inevitably diminish over time. That is not the roadmap Pi was created to travel. PICISI’s intent is to “rebuy” the currency, yes they said “rebuy” think recycle with added value as opposed to a repayment, buyout, or buyback since currency isn’t a loan, and doesn’t represent ownership.

PICISI’s rebuying method of recycling/recirculating Pi is designed to have multiple effects; it should make the currency more stable, reliable, and stronger than without it, which in turn should make it more attractive and a greater store of value, It should also provide a large measure of international goodwill for PICISI. The operating revenue PICISI earns in fiat will be used to rebuy Pi on the open market, if an official exchange sponsor is in place PICISI will use that exchange exclusively for all purchases.

The other two design purposes for Pi are expected to have minimal impact since they are juxtaposed to other options that will likely be selected far more often. For example, when an organizer creates a crowdfunding campaign at PICISI he is asked to select a host CC, which is a cryptocurrency that all donated CC will be converted to for that campaign. The choices are: a) a specific CC, b) a sponsor CC, or c) Pi, the greatest expected selection is ‘sponsor CC’ because that is the only choice that literally pays the organizer for that selection. As for ‘payment option for sponsors’, most PICISI sponsors will likely use their own currencies to pay for sponsorship fees, so that is the expected choice over Pi.

The primary day-to-day operational purpose of Pi is to serve as the medium of exchange of services provided by Promotion Contractors all over the world to tell everyone else in the world all about PICISI.

PICISI is a scam website, run by an anonymous operator pretending to be a charity to solicit irreversible donations.

Your massive wall of text can't change the facts.   ;)

Also, the fact that you are spamming large chunks of copy/paste which are not related to the OP, makes me trust you less by the second.

You clearly refuse to go read it, so I'm bringing it to you. 

I told you that the data is there and that it proves my claims so I'm providing it.


You went to a site that was empty even though you were told that it is under construction, even there you didn't believe me.

As I told you, you will eventually come to the realization that you were wrong.

So that is your idea of proof, is it?  An anonymous scammer's words?

SPONSORS AND SUPPORTERS - Look at your glorious leader and his train of thought!  Is this the person you want to be in charge of your coins?

I'm providing facts that support my claims, I'm supplying evidence that refutes many of Vods  misguided assumptions.   

The data, it's of course your chose to read it or not.   

Again, what coins are you talking about?

I gave you an article about PI and apparently you skipped right pass it.


 
PICISI is a crowdfunding startup designed to accept many different national currencies such as USD, GBP, and EUR, but it will also have a high concentration of cryptocurrencies such as BTC (bitcoin), EMC2 (Einsteinium), HYPER (HYPER), and Doge (Doge), to name only 4 of over 1300.

PICISI will have its own currency called “Pi”, Pi will help finance the crowdfunding site’s growth and development. This article will take a closer look at Pi and how it will help PICISI make a big impact in the cryptocurrency universe as will as the crowdfunding space.

1)  Pi will have many purposes in the development of PICISI: firstly it will be used to raise capital – it will finance initial website construction as well as site upgrades. A major expense is the cost of license procurement from state to state and country to country, it is expected to be over a million dollars worth of licenses, this cost would be spread out to minimize impact.

2)  Pi will be used to pay for PICISI assignments – the main day-to-day use of Pi will be to pay for the enormous amount of marketing, outreach, and publicity the site plans on generating. PICISI’s mantra is ‘Promotion, Promotion, Promotion’.

PICISI’s intent is to do lots of promoting for itself as well as it’s sponsors and the campaigns raising funds at the site. It’s important to note that most crowdfunding sites rarely promote the campaigns featured at their site.

3)  Pi will be a host CC option – campaign organizers will have the opportunity to select PI as the host cryptocurrency for their campaign and;

4)  PI will be a payment option for sponsors – sponsors will be able to pay for sponsorship packages using PI.

The value of Pi will largely be determined by the open market, however PICISI’s performance should have some impact on the currency’s value. It is expected that Pi’s price respond positively to the Initial Token Offering. Once it is used on a daily basis (as indicated above) the currency value should show signs of stabilizing. It is also expected dip in value at the times when funds are pulled to pay for major projects like site upgrades and license procurement.

PICISI is targeting various cryptocurrency exchanges to be their Official Exchange Sponsor. The official exchange sponsor’s site is where PICISI will exclusively purchase PICISI currency using the fees they generate via fiat.

Yep - your words are backed by nothing.  They are not worth the energy to display them.

Quote whatever article you want - doesn't change what you are - an anonymous charity hustler.

Today I contacted one sponsor - tomorrow I'll contact the rest and simply point them to this thread.  I'll let everyone read for themselves what type of "world executive director" you think you'll be.  What do you think they'll do when they see you write that you're not actually a charity, and you just claimed to be one?  

If enough of them ask for their charitable donations back, you might just pull a runner.   ;)

Yes, I've read it.
It is not data as in information, it's you quoting your own PR wishlist. And irrelevant to the OP and the poll.

What is the purpose behind this thread?

Vod, if that is your intent and I'm confident that you are in for a very big surprise.  Remember, I'll be surprised if ANY believe what you believe with about that charity nonsense. 

And I'll be additionally surprised if any of them will feel the need to have a refund.  What I won't be surprised at is if they have doubts because you sown needless fear. 


The fact of the matter is FUD is part of the process, Tecshare was the very first person to respond to a PICISI thread of course he unload a wad of bitterness, I was advised to simply create a new thread and to make it self-mod.  I didn't like the tone of that so I passed, it has remain ever since.   

The truth is what will be known if you want to know it. 

I think 'destroy' the reputation of an user... but I do not know which reputation will be destroyed or ruined (but I do not think it is necessary a thread, maybe it is better to discuss privately).

I'm just going to tell them two things:

1) You aren't a charity organization
2) You aren't a legal corporation

Both statements of fact, but statements that will contradict what they believe about you.

I'll let your past posts destroy whatever credibility you have left.   ;)

Most things in BCT seem to have a sub text, but I just responded to the original post at face value: i.e. Does giving an enterprise a name/acronym containing words like "Charity" and "Philanthropy" imply that that entity is charitable and philanthropic?

There you go suggesting in order to lead.  Like I said numerous times, you are assuming bad things where they don't exist. 

Your actions are not authorized in any way by me.  I told you that your actions in this regard are shameful, reckless, and irresponsible but you are clear hell bend to being destructive. . 





 

I believe I told you the same thing about passively pretending (not correcting people when they assume) you are a charity, and trying to collect coins as an anonymous "Executive Director".   :-\

No, it doesn't (this is obvious). The 'enterprise' should also act and do something to prove that it is really charitable and/or philanthropic.

I clicked this thread because I thought it was about a charity.

What services are being provided by PICISI at what cost to the people who would invest / pay for said services?

the OP lead you in that direction by making the suggestion in the question.  so its reasonable to make that selection.

had you looked up PICISI you likely would not have made that selection because you would have known what it was.

We'll have to disagree on that then, as it's not obvious to me.
I voted yes in answer to this question, given your answer above you would answer no, then?

No, I read the current thread title a couple of minutes ago.  I've never heard of PICISI before, to my knowledge.  I thought it was possibly a charity Vod was representing.

The tread title that led me to think this is:


Edit:  In consideration of redsn0w's post below me, I did not place a vote, either.

Sincerely, I have not participated to this poll. Simply, because it can be manipulated so it is better a simple post as reply (to spot all the probable alt-account).



PS: but yes, most probably I would choose "Yes".

I agree 100%. This is not a matter that needs to be carried on like this and should be discussed privately. If Vod has concerns with PICISI then instead of creating a bigger problem it would be wiser for him to help find a solution or offer ways to make it better.

@Armis, it would be best to let him have his say and then leave it at that.

@All, you can't read a book by the cover and make assumptions by it's title. I can easily say that this is a crowdfunding project that will allow people to ask for donations for their cause including charities or I could easily say that a certain percentage of income from the site can be donated towards charities.

The title is useless and it is extremely low class to argue about such a simple thing.

Please stop with this nonsense.

It is extremely low class to imply that a business is a charity when it is not.
You sponsor what you like, I'll post what I like.

That's a good question, however premature.

As a crowd funding site, there are a number of fees for services.  Specific values have not been determined for most of them, however there are some guidelines.  For example the fee we will charge a campaign organizer to raise fiat on our site will be less than the cost to raise fiat on Indiegogo or Kickstarter.   The fee to raise CC is not yet determined.  The fee to the organizer for receiving sponsors donation is likely to be about 15% (host CC is free),  and if someone brings their own sponsor to support their campaign the fee will be higher than use of our sponsors.  

Campaign Donation
1) fiat      --- will be lower then Indie and Kick
2) cryptocurrency  --- Not Yet Determined NYD

Sponsorships
3) host CC Sponsorship (profile sponsor) - no fee
4) sponsor donor perk contract  - NYD               
5) sponsor advertising perk contract - NYD
6) video sponsorship contract - NYD
7) organizer generated sponsorship - NYD

8) Contractor Contract (fee paid at closing) - NYD




Now let's say you are a sponsor and want to sponsor a campaign, you would likely have multiple choices, however all are subject to the will of the organizer to have a sponsor and to have any particular sponsor.  In other words they could say no.  But for this example let's say of the three choices they have a) sponsor CC, b)select own CC,  or c) Pi, the likelihood is great that they will select a) sponsor because that is the only one paying the organizer to make that selection.  

After they make that selection and the campaign app is complete it will be shopped to the sponsors, it has not been determined yet if the host CC selection will be first to $1 (CC equal) or highest bid.  But for this example let's make it first to $1 gets tthe deal if the organizer accepts.   The organizer gets all of those funds (no fee).  the video sponsorship will be up for bid with the host CC having right of first refusal, and the other sponsorships Perks and campaign are open to multiple sponsors with the organizer's ok.

So campaign that are very attractive will likely have lots of sponsors, certainly many sponsor offers.


Now let's say that during the campaign the organizer wants to promote his campaign, he may request a campaign contractors to do an article or some other service.  PICISI will be the middleman for the deal and escrow the funds.  once it is done to the satisfaction of the organizer (client) the contractor is paid and feedback is left by the escrow agent and the other parties are expected to leave feedback too.


Many times PICISI will see a campaign that we want to help promote too, that is what our Promotion Contractors are for, they do PICISI assignments and we pay them with Pi.

That is what I was saying that you were lead by the OP.

When OP wrote: "Would a reasonable person look at this title and assume it was a charitable organization?"   

the word "charitable" was the lead.  Had he put "Investment" or "Philanthropic" or "Invention" or any other derivation of any one of the words in the name it would have been a lead in that direction.  Had he simply asked the generic question of: "What type of business do you think they are in?"  you would have a more pure (less skewed) result.

You know the name of the company isn't 6 words long, that would be unreasonable.   The company name is PICISI and that is why people rarely see all of the other words and why they are always in parenthesis when properly presented.  Again by leaving out the parenthesis he lead you to wrongfully believe that it was the name of the company.

The name of the company is one word "PICISI" pronounced (pick-easy)   

Now, when you look at this "Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, and Ideas" how many comas do you see and where are they?  Clearly the collection of words are designed to be said as a phrase and to have meaning.   The meaning is: 'a place where industrious (inventors, entrepreneurs, creators) could go to get funding'.

When the OP saw it it was in context it said a 'crowdfunding site (under construction)' but of course he quotes it out of context.

So given the multiple leads and omissions why would anyone reasonably expect a more fair outcome?

I don't think you understood me.


There was nothing in the OP that could have led me to that conclusion prior to reading the OP.

The PICISI mantra is “Promotion, Promotion, Promotion”, even in our pre-launch state, we are aggressively promoting PICISI and our sponsors. It is by design that PICISI is in a perpetual state of promotion. This article will feature reasons why cryptocurrency (CC) communities should sponsor crowdfunding campaigns at PICISI.

Promotion is a major part of what we do at PICISI, it starts with our unconventional hiring plan. It is our intent to hire self-employed contractors all over the world to do various assignments (video production, article writing, social networking, etc …) to promote our message, the message of our sponsors, as well as the individual message of our campaign organizers. We want our combined voices heard everywhere, all day, every day.

The very best place to market a CC will be at PICISI, that is where a CC sponsor will be able to introduce a CC in many different ways — we have 10 sponsorship opportunities The primary ways to get your message conveyed is as: host CC sponsor, campaign sponsor, donor perk sponsor, advertising perk sponsor, and campaign video sponsor; and secondarily as: home / category page sponsor, donation list sponsor, article sponsor, youtube channel sponsor, and PICISI merchandising sponsor. Let’s take a closer look at the primary sponsorship opportunities:

Host CC Sponsor – once an organizer has elected to have a ‘sponsor currency’ all CC sponsors are given the opportunity win the honor, once the connection is made all CCs donated to that campaign will be converted to the host CC.

Every visitor to the campaign will see the host CC in action, not simply as an ad. Additionally organizers are able to use the funds with any of the campaign contractors to create, develop, or promote their campaign. This type of practical and positive interaction with CCs will improve how the general public views the cryptocurrency industry.

Campaign Sponsor – this is the most common type of sponsorship seen in crowdfunding campaigns. The sponsor’s logo is placed within an area of the body of the campaign text. The higher your donation the higher your logo will appear in the sponsorship logo area.

Donor Perk Sponsor – a sponsor provided perk is escrowed by PICISI on behalf of a specific campaign where it will be used. If the perk is not requested by any qualified donor it is converted to host CC and donated to the campaign.

Advertising Perk Sponsor – a sponsor provided perk escrowed by PICISI on behalf of a specific campaign to be used as a perk. If the perk is not requested by any qualified campaign donor the perk is sent back to the sponsor — the perk is NOT donated to the campaign and

Campaign Video Sponsor – the first 5 second of the campaign organizer’s video is allocated for the Campaign Video Sponsor, this is where the sponsor will indicate: “This video is brought to you by … [say sponsor’s name, show sponsor’s logo, and say sponsor’s catchphrase]”

‘Purpose CCs’ are CCs that were created with a specific niche in mind eg: EMC2, Metal, HYPER, RPC, Gridcoin, EDU, etc … these types of CCs will find it easier to target their message in specific PICISI categories eg: the Science Research category for the CCs EMC2, and Gridcoin; likewise for Gaming / Game Development category for HYPER and GMC; the Music category for Metal coin; the Politics category for RPC, the Education category for EDU; and the Renewable Energy category for ENRG.

One of our launch prerequisites is to secure a minimum of 20 sponsors, currently we have 14: Crypto Database, www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Einsteinium (EMC2), Metal Coin (METAL), HYPER (HYPER), Hobonickels (HBN), Energy Coin (ENRG), Artsry Coin, GSM Coin (GSM), Stiviacoin (STV), and Magi coin (XMG). If you like the direction PICISI is traveling I invite you to support us with sponsorship and to share our message with your constituents.

Whoops!  Looks like Armis forgot to leave out the charity part:


He used to have grand ideas (earlier today that is lol) to hold onto all kinds of coin in his anonymous account.

Seems that has changed now that he has been exposed.  Now he posts he won't have access to any coins.    ;)

"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar."   - Abraham Lincoln

I'm forced to lock the thread since he keeps spamming his PR material everywhere - totally unnecessary as we already understand he is pulling a long con.

This post serves as my legal claim as the official bitcointalk account of the official PICISI (pronounced Pickissy) website.  I believe I am the first account to make this claim.

The website will be a parody/education tool on long term cons using a non-reversible currency.  It will discuss the methods and tactics used by some of bitcoin's most nefarious long con scammers.  I will announce the website address at the end of next week.

Note: This claim and forum account is backed by the Fair Use right. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Additional Nice Guy Note:  I am offering until the end of next week to allow for any opposing claims.  If there are legal documents presented to me by the end of next week, showing proof of a legitimate company registration in the same name, I will withdraw my claim, even though I am not legally required to.  (I'm just a nice guy.) 

One could view this as a demand to anonymous scammers to stop collecting charitable donations under imaginary companies (under the promise they will one day register), and do things the legal and proper way.  If this grace period has passed, and no one presents an opposing claim, I will be registering the PICISI trademark myself and will aggressively defend my works.

Further updates will be posted on this thread, which is locked to prevent walls of worthless copy/paste PR garbage.

Earlier this morning, Armis announced that one sponsor wanted a refund. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060445.msg11390892#msg11390892

Earlier this afternoon, Armis announced that no current sponsor wants a refund.

Did he dump his sponsor?  Did he provide a refund?  Armis is asking that you PM him for the details.    :-\
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998200.msg11397174#msg11397174

Armis, like many habitual scammers, has problems remembering past lies.   ;)

PROOF!  CLICK HERE!    
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060445.msg11390892#msg11390892



Screenshot in case he edits:

https://i.imgur.com/5pcwGM4.jpg

Not to mention sending unsolicited PMs to members...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060445.msg11407657#msg11407657

Look at the past couple pages of his last posts.  See all the copy/paste and very little original content?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=225066;sa=showPosts

Armis, I very nicely gave you a week to indicate your legitimate interest in PICISI.  All you have done is spam as much BS as you could around the forum, making yourself look like a fool.

Tomorrow is the last day to claim any legal interest in that term.  As of this weekend I will be registering the official PICISI (Pickissy) educational site and will start to develop it.  There is no way a reasonable person will confuse my site with your scam.

Do you think I won't stand behind my words?  I'm an ethical and moral person and my words mean something.  Please get the info to me by tomorrow if you are serious about continuing to promote PICSIS - the time to play "pretend business man" and scam is over.

Don't you dare start complaining later - you had an entire week to come out of the shadows.