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hi guys,

we have contacted this guys from linkedin :

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=13644568&locale=en_US&trk=tyah2

asked him he would be able to built server having the same hashing power than the big one of butterfly:

this is his reply:

Our fastest server has an average rating of 1775 GH/second by our most recent tests.

Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

so i va asked him to send me a screencopy an a video of the hashing power of his server,this is his reply:

Hello again,

That was the average value after only 6 hours of testing. Honestly, I do not know anything about BitCoin, one of my engineers set up the test and ran it for a little while over the weekend.

The power usage is 985 Watts/system. Since we did not design this specifically for BitCoin mining, I have no idea if this is good or bad.

This is the system we used:

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/HSSM_3960X.shtml

They are a little pricey at $25,000 each, but it comes with 18 processors x 4.8 GHz each = 86.4 GHz worth of computing per system. The cost "per GHz" is low, $289 per GHz, same as a laptop basically.

Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

i ve called him and asked again by email about screenshot and video,his reply:

We are not going to do all of this for you. If you want the hardware, purchase it.

I talked to my engineer again, he said he was getting 1775 GH/second, as I mentioned. But, the power usage was 1.1 Kilowatts, not 975 Watts.

Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063


i replied him telling him that we ll buy it if it achieves what you claims otherwise,we stop here.his reply:

The answer is no. We're too busy to do special projects. We already did what you asked. The results are certified. We do about $1,200,000/day in sales for clients who don't ask us to do test after test after test. We simply don't have the time to take on every special request that is asked of us.

Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

i ve called him again and told him that no purchase will be done if there is no proof.after that,he seems to have setup another character in his scenario ,please read below:

 Matthew,
 
Please put your signature on the bottom of your emails. For some reason, "...." thought he was chatting with me regarding the BitCoin test.
 
I can explain why the results were so high. The BitCoin application software was installed on our Prototype 5.5 GHz Ivy Bridge i7-3770K chip which is about as fast as would be a 6.4 GHz top-of-the-line Sandy Bridge-E processor, and about as fast as a 7.2 GHz Westmere class server.
 
This Prototype system uses a new Microchannel Heat Pipe implementation which can remove heat far better than even a Single Stage Vapor Phase Change cooler capable of maintaining -40 Celsius in a vacuum chamber across a CPU block.
 
In other words: The very efficient, and very hot, Ivy Bridge chip can outperform anything under the sun. Also, this was a 1U server x 4 CPU cores/server x 9U = 36 cores = 72 hyperthreads running at (basically) the speed of a 7.2 GHz Westmere server. You had over 500 GHz worth of processing power attacking the BitCoin mining operation.
 
Why our Chief Techical Officer did not disclose how many cores he was running is unknown to me. Furthermore, the prototype system was to remain offline until our announcement on Monday. I guess he was too eager to see how it could behave in the real world.
 
The good news is: the average power requirements were even lower than previously stated. The MHP cooling technology uses an inert gas cycling in a closed loop that hits an endothermic phase change as it makes contact with a Copper CPU block cut out as a 6th-order Menger Sponge. The more surface area that this gas is in contact with, the cooler the surface becomes, and a Menger Sponge has nearly infinite surface area while enclosing zero-volume. Google for "Menger Sponge" for more info about this unique geometric construct.
 
The BitCoin equivalent calculations were at 1768 GH/second based on my calculations. Not all cores were started at the same time, and the log files suggests that Nathan made a rounding error. The power used was 1629 Watts as measured from the wall to the entire 9U rack. The meters are accurate +/- 1.2% for AC power measurements.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

....... wtf

i ll continue here  as the posts is too big already

so he tried to make me understand that he was able to achieve this type of speed and i have read the btc hardware capabilities list and have asked him to give me online access to this server so i can see it:

I VE REPLIED them :

hello everyone,

it s right that i didn t knew with who  i ve spoke,anyway the important things here is to know:
-if we can reproduce the same amount of ghs/s with any bitcoin miner software,(usually these software have a counting function integrated in it so we can see really at wich speed,the computer is hashing)
-how much will be the electricity costs,hosting costs of this beast/month?
-if we can find any hosting company there for it?
Once we have all these  informations, we can decide very quickly

thanks and i m waiting your return with the login to the machine to see it works

then the so called matthe conolly replied me (i suspect he and ed is one and only person but he invented this guy to make me believe he has many employees)

Hello again,

Here is the test we did without the special version compiled by Nathan. He told me this morning that he created a supercomputer cluster and changed the source code to recognize all cores as if it was one large machine. Nathan also optimized the RAM timings on the hardware after a few trial and error adjustments to make it even faster. Then he compiled the code on the machine so it could see all of the cores. Next, he migrated over to 4U servers with banks of Tesla cards, and these were 1 KW per 4U, not for the whole system. There were 3 Tesla cards per server + the overclocked hardware. Finally, he said there were ways to make the source code better, so he added his own code to it also.

I ran the test on just one machine with 6 cores and with just one small GTX 550i video card and it got 5896 MH/s when I clicked on the screen shot as fast as I could. Nathan is preparing to ship the other rack out to Google since they bought it last night. Apparently, even on our hardware with as few as 12 hyperthreads, it is really, really fast.

I am enclosing a picture of the performance using an easy program to install: 50Miner. But, Mr. Trice, please understand these BitCoin software installs are very cumbersome. There are no instructions, the programs are hard to find, and most of them require command line interface commands to be typed in after joining a group mining site. We are getting far behind in the rest of our work. I would like to be excused from this project, if that is possible. I have too many systems to build before the weekend.

Sincerely,

Matthew Conolly
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

I CONTINUE  HERE:

He sent me a screenshot showing a hashing power of 6 gigahash/sec plus the message above

i replied:

hi matthew,

thank you for your effort.
but as you see your screenshot is showing something around 6Ghs/s we are really far away from 1775Gh/s

that s why i need to be sure about it

thanks

his reply:


We have currently performed 3 tests so far, involving a total of 8 of our employees and 83 hours of labor on-the-clock. This represents nearly $4000 in payroll expenses, plus the purchasing of hardware parts totaling over $35,000 so far.
 
Just to let you know, we've done $39,000 worth of research.
 
As a result, we have 3 machine options for you to choose from. Two of these systems involve multiple servers being linked into a supercomputer cluster to mine BitCoins as one large count of CPU cores. The third option is just one smaller configuration of overclocked CPU and overclocked GPUs under one lid.
 
Option 1:
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/images/product_list/zeus_hurricane.jpg
 
Dual Overclocked Westmere E5 chips (16 cores/32 hyperthreads total) + 3 Tesla High End Tesla GPUs (over 3,000 GPU cores) = 6 Giga Hash/second performance.
Electricity = 1.6 KW
 
Price = $14,200  + $350/month to lease (for 1 system)
Price = $25,375  + $525/month to lease (for 2 systems)
Price = $38,550  + $700/month to lease (for 3 systems)
 
Option 2:
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/images/product_list/previous_zeus_glacier.jpg
 
6-Node Cluster of Quad Ivy Bridge Overclocked to 5.25 Ghz x (24 cores/48 hyperthreads) + 18 Tesla GPUs (over 18,000 GPU cores) = 52 Giga Hash/second performance.
Electricity = 14.4 KW
 
Price = $48,400  + $2835/month to lease (for 1 cluster of 6 systems)
Price = $91,785  + $5535/month to lease (for 2 clusters of 6 systems)
No price option for 3 or more at this time.
 
Price does include recompiling OpenSource BitCoin mining software to run under multi-core clustered configurations.
 
Option 3:
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/images/5800_MHz_i7_980X_small.jpg
 
High End Cryogenic Dual Vapor Phase Change Overclocked Ivy Bridge @ 5.60 GHz x 48 cores/96 hyperthreads + 36 Tesla GPUs (not shown in image) = 275 Giga Hash/second performance.
 
Price = $110,200 per system  + $7625/month to lease (for 1 large cluster of 12 systems)
 
Please note: These prices are good until March 19, 2013. Due to scheduling of upcoming builds for Google, we must start this project on or before Tuesday March 19.
 
We currently have no other options aside from these 3 shown here. Please pick 1 of the 3 if you want to have us build and host these machines.
Projection completion = 21 days from receipt of payment.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063
 

......

s o i ve asked him where is 1775gigahash/sec sever?because this one was not in the list and he told me that it has worked?

his reply:

We were not supposed to be using that hardware since it was custom made for Google. We need to get their permission before selling it.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063
  

(sigh)

my reply:

ok
as comparing with the 4 options,you can easily understand that none of the 3 last are profitable for production

so let me know if we can go ahead with the google s machine

thanks

his replies

The Google Customer Realtionship Manager (CRM) will let me know Monday morning. We designed this server for them, specifically (it is already built and they paid for it). The question is, will they let us build another one for resale, provided we just host your BitCoin Mining operations on it and do not ship it to you? There is a chance they will allow this. I know they would NOT allow us to build one and export it, since the terms of their NDA with us prohibits just that. But you want it just for running applications, so it can be hosted anywhere, which means if it does not leave our building, they should be fine with it.
 
Let's suppose they allow it. How soon will you be able to send payment? I ask this since I need to schedule no fewer than 3 engineers for this project (it is a complex build) and the parts can be obtained readily on Monday and Tuesday. On Wednesday, we get a new vendor price list (usually prices go up) and sometimes the higher-priced RAM is out of stock. This RAM is really what makes it run so fast, so it is a critical component to buy when we can buy it.
 
If you are SURE you will buy this on Monday or Tuesday, I will go ahead and order this RAM before you wire the funds to us. If there is even a 10% chance you will NOT buy it, please let me know, and I will NOT order the RAM in advance.
 
And, just to be clear, Google timed this order being aware of the potential shortage of the brand of RAM we need to get and the "supply announcement" regarding its availability this coming Wednesday. This RAM just overclocks really well and has very low latency and outstanding bandwidth performance for parallel processing applications.
 
The final price of the unit will be $23,610 and the first month of hosting is free due to a new arrangement we have with the colocation facility located within our building. Depending on what happens on Wednesday, this might be the ONLY unit we might be able to build for you until the RAM is back in stock. There is a 50% chance if we order a bunch of RAM on Monday, we can build two systems for you for $47,220 but we will need the payment up front it you want two systems.
 
If you want more than two systems, I suggest you just buy the two, and we wait for the Wednesday announcement regarding the supply of RAM.
 
The timing of this is critical, so please do what you need to do internally in order to make sure you will be able to buy it if we get the necessary permissions.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

*lol* High performance CPU-Bitcoin-Miner with 1.7TH... *cool*

i continue here:

so i asked him if there wasnt any possibility to modify this server in order not need google authorization.

his reply:

 Hello again,
 
Google is a great customer of ours, and as a result of their funding of our research, this overclocked GPU cluster + 5.25 GHz server was born. We could not have done this alone. We are eventually becoming their private boxbuilder (they give us about 30% of our entire business right now) so it would not be ethically correct to try and make a small change to the design in order to have a "loophole" to build it for you. They are getting what they want: superfast performance for CUDA-based calculations. This design would have been impossible without our input as well, and they know this. But they want us to build 80 of them this quarter, and your order request for only 2 of them actually helps. If you wanted many of them, I am sure Google would say "no."
 
On re-reading the contract, they retain the right to charge as much as 10% on any intellectual property we co-design, as long as the hardware is not sold, and is leased (thereby preventing an outside party to reverse-engineer it and figure it all out).  So, of the $23,610 we would need to pay them $2,361. I know this would now put you over budget at $23,610 + $2,361 = $25,971 per system, but maybe we can factor this into the lease and break it up over 10 smaller payments?
 
We are getting ahead of ourselves, as we say, so let's wait to hear what they have to say on Monday, and hope for the best.
 
As for the electricity costs, I was going to wait until after the first month's running of the units, meter them separately, and then just bill you that same exact dollar amount every month. The first month will be no charge for each of the two systems, a real lucky break as you are getting cage #1 in our new co-location and they give the first occupant up to 20 KW/PDA no charge as long as the lease is for a year or longer.
 
Their on-site rep will be on here on Monday to see their server, and we will have pictures for release later in the week. He is taking it with him at the end of the day, our first official sale of this breakthrough technology.
 
I am glad now that the BitCoin was run on this server initially, after it was recompiled for massively-parallel operation on a cluster set up as a supercompute node. It makes a huge difference in performance when done this way.
 

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

i think all this was a scenario to make me confident about him and his company.

so  i told him let s wait google s reply and wait for it (this was sunday 17th of march)

later he replied:

Haha... "the Bitcoin was run on this server"
...
So google allows them to sell the machines but doesnt allow videos or screenshots... sure... but its funny how much work they put into this scam...

he has attached a pdf ,if anyone want to read it i can upload it somewhere so you can read it:

his reply


We have two pieces of good news from Google this morning.
 
1. We are permitted to build a version of their massively parallel GPU computing cluster
2. Since you are using it for BitCoin Mining and are not competing in the same area as Google is using their servers, they elected to WAIVE the 10% Intellectual Property fee
 
So we are ready to start the project.
 
Enclosed is a PDF file which outlines the pricing and costs for building either one or two systems.
 
Please be aware this is a time-sensitive project, as the RAM components needed for success will possibly be out of stock as early as this Wednesday. We have to order this RAM today, Monday March 18, and hope you are going to pay us for this project. In other words, by the time you are reading this, we have already ordered the RAM. If you decide not to go forward with this project, we will be out a great deal of money.
 
Please read the enclosed PDF file, and send via wire transfer the associated dollar amounts depending on the number of systems you intend to purchase.
 
Wire transfers can be sent to:

TD Bank
657 Conchester Highway
Boothwyn, PA 19061
610-485-2080

Business Name = Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking, Inc.
Federal Tax ID = 27-3954291

ABA# = 036 001 808
Acct# = 427 347 3705
This should be all of the information you need. If additional banking information is needed, PLEASE CALL TD BANK at the number listed above.
 
P.S. "TD" = Toronto Dominion Bank.
 
I look forward to overseeing this project. It has been a real learning experience for us here at LNO. We had no idea BitCoin existed, but it is something that makes sense and should really make governments "wake up" and realize the implications of having such a currency option.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063



after that , i ask him to prepare a contract and put in on my company name,he agreed that if the server is working less than 1.5 thash/sec or if he is not able to deliver in time ,meaning 3 weeks+4 days from the payment date,then he ll refund back the money


we have sent him 47220 usd for two servers the 19th of march from our company account.after signing the contract and got confirmation he has received the money,
i ve waited the delivery.Last saturday 13th of April 2013 was the deadline ,he started not pick up  phone nor emails replies since last week.

and i have asked for refund since monday this week without any success.

I am in process now to get the authorities involved.

the delaware adress is only a mailbox,he is operating from philadelphia, and it seems he has already lost a part of my money in gambling

see his facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/ed.trice
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Liquid-Nitrogen-Overclocking/162356203779679?ref=br_rs

i ve contacted the philadelphia Inquirer about this paper he has posted in his website:

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_20.shtml#page_top

they have confirmed that it was a paid page and not an article

The amount of bullshit in those replies is staggering. The amount of BS jargon to try to confuse non techy people...god damn.

I, too have a supercomputer cluster of 7 CPU GPU CAT4 cable connections with CGI TCP/IP adapters that get upwards of over 9000TH/milisecond while also partnering with Google on our server cluster boxes. We have created a specialized GUI mining PHP adapter that works way better than 300 Megapixels per minute.

Please send me $15,381 to get started on this project right away as I will get 31 of my best engineers right on it.

.......

i have the contract here,the copy of the transfer made,if anyone need it just pm me

now any helps would be welcome to recover my money and to teach this fraudster a lesson

please contact me in pm if you have any ideas

thanks

They really are just making up numbers, aren't they?

Let's look at the math for one of their quotes:

OK, a Core i7 2600 (8 HT) at 3.4 GHz gets about 3 MH/s/core. Adjusting to 5.6 GHz, we get about 5 MH/s/core. At 96 hyperthreads, we get a whopping 480 MH/s, or just over half of ONE 7970. Let's round up to 0.5 GH/s.

On to the Tesla (!) GPUs. Let's assume they have some nicely optimized code and get oh, 150 MH/s per GPU. That gives us an additional 5.4 GH/s. (Even if we assume 1 GH/s...well, you do the math).

Adding in all of that CPU hashing power, we get to at MOST 6 GH/s. Nothing like overestimating by 4600%.

Well, I guess you should visit this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866.0 and see if that helps in anyway in your situation. Perhaps you need some deeper info for your lawyers etc. I hope it helps.

thanks mate

if anyone can flood him with calls and flood his facebook page

i ve tried he blocked me
lol

The sales guy you are talking to is obviously "misunderstanding" gigaHASH vs gigaHERTZ, and doing something like adding up the gigahertz of all of the CPU and GPU cores in the machine.

He's telling you exactly what hardware is in the machines they're selling (Intel CPUs + nVidia TESLA GPUs). He just has no clue about how to translate that into the results you want.

Whether that "misunderstanding" is intentional or not is, I suppose, the crux of whether this is a fraud or not. My money is on stupidity on his part, rather than intentional malice. But either way, I wouldn't do business with them.

wow, I think I need to let this sink in for a while.

Sorry about your losses and good luck getting your money back. I’m surprised he didn’t ask you to pay in BTC.

I imagine this should be able to be resolved in an amicable manner. That being said it sounds like you didn't do your due diligence (http://'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_diligence') on the product that they were selling. They pretty clearly state what they are selling(overclocked Intel x86 servers + Tesla GPGPU cards) and anyone could have done the calculations given the plethora of information on the web regarding BTC mining on CPUs and GPU.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

I've seen you posting around here rabidly searching for a way to jump on the BTC money train. You might want to slow down a bit, read some more and then accept that you are likely not going to see instant results. I don't mean this as an insult but you let your greed drive you and overpower rational thinking. For $47,220 you could have worked with Zefir to acquire 3,000-5,000 Avalon ASICs and then plowed your remaining funds into hiring an engineer(burnin?) to design and program the board. You'd end up with ~1-1.5 TH/s by July if Avalon, Zefir and burnin all proceed without delay. Still a gamble as these boards could be worthless in 6 months but you might make your ROI and then some before then.

hi

this is the two emails adress he is using
ed@liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
liquidnitrogenoverclocking@hushmail.com

you have to understand that i ve done my math but it was the factor google wich has make change mind as he said it was enginered by google i said this is the best thing i can have in the world,so all this basically was a fraud since the beginning ,he didn t even knew what btc was before i contacted him

and see now on his facebook page, he is playing the smart guy by posting a 50miner screenshot how pathetic he is

and gambler ,he has alrerady lost 14000 of my 47k

this guy is definitvly a fraud, i m seeking to put him in jail or anything similar because these guys are ruining the economy

  

This is where you went wrong. You asked for information and it sounds like in the end they racked up a bunch of Ivy Bridge CPUs with Tesla cards and achieved ~6 GH/s. You did the math, came to the conclusion that this wasn't profitable, so you then opted for the super secret 'Google' machine that you had no test results for. Chances are the "Google" machine is just another rack-mount solution that is tailored to Google's specifications. I suspect he is quoting the sum of the "GHz" across all the CPUs and GPUs. It is misinformation but I don't believe they were attempting to commit fraud. It sounds like a case of a sales person not knowing their product(most sales people) and a discouraged customer who filled in the lack of information with their dreams.

You messed up. You bought an expensive but useless product due to not asking for enough information. You backed down at their "Google says we can't test it but we can sell it" and handed over your money. Apologize and find a way to extract yourself from this situation with minimal money losses.

Google is well known for using commodity hardware. They don't use specialized stuff much. Moreover if Google did but stuff from them, even a simple component, there is no way this guy would be telling it to you -- even if the said component was a simple screw and he was really drunk... In fact, especially since this is "designed by Google", this guy wouldn't event know he was selling to Google. It would be routed thru a proxy. AFAIK Google builds their own systems in-house, and are very secretive about their hardware specs and numbers (and locations).

Hope you get your money back... or at-least teach the guy a lesson...

well,

this is what i m doing right now

there was conditions in the contract :

-hashing power should be met
-delivery in the timeframe

none of this has been met and if you are a company owner and if you try to take money and not deliver this is fraud.

so you can t say here that i messed up.this guy has frauded me and he knew from the beginning what he was doing

i m calling this fraud.

Seriously? Just just realized that you've been had? Goddamn man, read his emails, you don't need no contract to figure out that it was a bunch of bullshit. Of course it is fraud, but good luck getting your money back because what you call a contract is 100% sure to be completely useless.

Next time someone asks you use a freaking wire to deposit $47k you must take into account that those are pretty much irreversible and thus are the kind of thing scammers love to use.

Kinda like that new internet money

hi guys,

i need to have advices on this
 make this guy get arrested and have my money back

your other remarks won t help me

so don t waste my time and yours on this

thanks

hi guys

i had some contacts with some people who knew him and they confirmed that he is a pure scam

......

on his company website page,

you can see he has photoshopped pictures of server on it:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Liquid-Nitrogen-Overclocking/162356203779679?hc_location=stream

confirming he is a pure fraud

is there any one in philadelphia?

it seems he is operating from there

if someone is in the area,please contact me in pm

thanks

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Liquid-Nitrogen-Overclocking-is-A-SCAM/515883665141195?ref=hl

lol at this

Check this out guys

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/special_offers.shtml

stole pictures and videos from:

http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/showpost.php?s=75053f899c00d3a037736114a348edc1&p=188432&postcount=377

I work(ed) for Google and probably the only thing they buy in hardware wise is the laptops and desktops. Everything else is custom built, outsourced to very specific top range secrecy manufacturers, reassembled in the US.

NOTHING they would buy would be in this form, as a one off. Its a scam.

yes

i ve got confirmation from people who ve worked with this guy.

he never worked for google all this is complete lie

this guy is a mythoman and  a pure scammer

i ve got information that he has done samething with other customers taken the money and disapear with it

(at least 3 other customers)

hi

this is the real picture of the photoshopped picture he has on his facebook page

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4022/4499874671_ef42fc088a_o.jpg

a more credible source to back your claim http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/snapstreams-monster-dvr-records-50-channels-at-once-even-when/

thanks

I'm pretty sure liquid nitrogen makes metals shatter like glass and fingers solidify like icelollies.

im pretty sure liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com does not use liquid nitrogen.

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/Paul_Ryan_Quote.htm

By far the best part of his website. Not fake at all.

i m really not sure about that,

he has set up multiple fake profile on linkedin and always use to invent fake employee name

so this guy is a fraud expert as far as i have understood until now

he has been arrested twice because of fraud

a really good guy

hi guys,

noone has anything to share on him?

hi guys

things becoming interesting,

sending me threats by email:

Ed has been out to California to spend some time with his daughter.
 
You should know that your spam-calling the office over 100 times  has consequences also.
 
You violated FCC regulations, and we filed a complaint through the FCC which states:
 
" You may be awarded $500 in damages or actual monetary loss, whichever is greater. The amount may be tripled if you are able to show that the caller violated the rules willfully and knowingly. Filing a complaint with the FCC does not prevent you from also bringing a suit in state court."
 
That dollar amount is PER CALL.
 
As it stands right now, you are subject to over $50,000 in penalties, which we will file for the "triple" amount and seek $150,000 in damages.
 
Furthermore, you contacted people connected to our president's Facebook social network, and called them on the telephone.
 
None of these people believed a thing you said, and all of them reported your  number as a harassing call.
 
They have also sent in a written complaint to the Facebook Legal Advisory board.
 
You have also made exaggerating posts on some BitCoin discussion board, claiming Mr. Trice gambled away the money.
 
First, the $14,000 "loss" were "chips" and not "money" played during a charity event before Superbowl XLVII, which was played on February 3, 2013.
How could this be your money?
 
Secondly, the poker leagues Mr. Trice plays in are not gambling. For a $25 annual fee, you get $10,000 in poker chips whenever you attend a hosted event.
There is no money exchanged, there are "points" awarded based on the number of participants, and players are ranked based on their scores.
 
I play in the same league as Mr. Trice, who is currently ranked 3rd out of over 200 players.
 
Mr. Trice is filing a defamation lawsuit against you for over $1,000,000 if the BitCoin posts are not removed by Monday.
 
He will win this one easily, so I suggest you take down the posts, stop harassing our office, and seek some peaceful remedy if you have a complaint.
 
Your BitCoin machines have been up and running and earning about 68 to 80 BitCoins per day once we figured out how to tune the software and stabilize the network.

With my best regards,

Martin Fisk
Chief of Operations

my replies to his email:

i m not afraid of any of your threats

you have two arrests on you
people knows you very well

if my money is not back ,you will pay all the consequences on this

you have been warned

send the confirmation that the money have been sent out

and we ll stop here as soon as the refund is made

thanks

p.s:
another advice,

stop using fake id soon or later you ll be catched

thanks

AHHHHAHAHAHAHA!

They're up to 1.3 TH/s now! Good for them. Why sell that when they're making 8 grand a day?

Hi guys,

the funny thing is that all people he have invented are all sending emails from his id,lol

so i m 100/100 sure that Martin fisk doesn t exists

anyway i m still waiting my money back .....

he said


machine is making 60/80 btc per day lol what a joker

hi guys he sent me this picture
for proving he has some special designing skills

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/liquid_chilled.jpg

it seems another stolen picture

this is where he has taken this picture:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?233842-Liquid-Cooling-Case-Gallery

hi ed

i know you are reading me,

please file a complaint,i m very interested to meet you in person,i am serious ed

please file a complaint against me

I give you a GO AHEAD

PLEASE

hi guys,

i ve just got a confirmation from one of his ex-partners who was working with him until last august

none of the design you can see in his website are belonging to him ,either designs have been stolen from ex-partner,either images have been taken out from the net and photoshopped

specially this two one wich are coming from his ex-partner:

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/HSSM_3960X.shtml

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/high_speed_servers.shtml

others are coming from this forum:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?233842-Liquid-Cooling-Case-Gallery&p=3999112&viewfull=1#post3999112

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?174525-MM-H2gO-10-lbs-of-****-in-a-5-lbs-bag



i m in process to get more and more information on our dearest scammer

 :'(

I had a conversation with Papamoi in the BFL shoutbox while he was researching this liquidnitrogen company maybe a month and a half ago. He said they were able to get 1775 GH/second with just CPU power yadda yadda yadda.  I told him without a doubt this was IMPOSIBLE. That the company was lying to him and they did not even offer any bitcoin "type" mining boxes(anything with a AMD GPU at the very least) at that time.  He kept insisting that it was real. I told him the alternatives at the time like the fact that a BFL device would take 4-6 months +.  As he seemed to want to lay down a lot of cash I told him to try and get some Avalons from people willing to sell their first shipment boxes.

I honestly don't know what to say.  While I feel sorry for you, you were warned ahead of time that what they were offering was imposible.  Reading into your emails with them even further demonstrates that you, did not, do any research into what you were buying. Forget about all the overclocked cpu core bullshit.  A $150 AMD card does twice as much hashing power as a $1000 Tesla!

As for the Google stuff, this is just laughable.  10 minutes of internet searching could show that they do everything in-house and are very secretive about it.  

I hope you get your money back..but I don't think you will.  

Ultimately you were blinded by your greed.  

 

thank you for your advice and concerns, i m working on trust,you can t do business if you don t trust, i have a contract mentionning refund if nothing is done.and i didn t had any doubt about the fairness of the contract that s why i did ordered it.

later on things  started to came out on his name etc but as said i had a contract and when you fraud you pay the consequences of it

i m just giving him few days before starting the legal .

so keep reading on how things will go

thanks

http://he has set up this fake profile :

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=179927355&authType=name&authToken=pHK2&goback=.siv_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1

as allison conventry ,personnal assistant of the great Ed trice

now see who was the girl on the picture befor he got busted:

http://s18.postimg.org/eo7bnn6wp/481_100000839484149_129015_2724326_n.jpg

just use http://www.tineye.com/

a screencopy of the profil at this time

http://s10.postimg.org/vxn3mu7yh/Capture99.jpg

http://www.tineye.com/search/show_match/06ff329d4b3c5f5ff96f2eb8f6acebecf62070b6/38fadf363d085a3a8ef100b5a380d75fad750134aa9ca30f452d8f05fa726661?m13=-0.0952114&m21=-0.0002585&m22=1.13368&m23=-0.238486&m11=1.13368&m12=0.0002585

and find out how our dearest ed is faking people

good job ED

Thing becoming more interesting here

a part being a cheater and a scammer he is also a dumb racist,calling me an arab extortionnist

see this

http://s1.postimg.org/anlxmpnhb/Ed_post.jpg
http://s1.postimg.org/anlxmpnhb/Ed_post.jpg



he ed,i know you are reading me, you just don t owe  me 1000 usd,but 47220 USD all your friends have the contract and transfer copy

don t be ridiculous

i m asking you to fill a complaint against me and i m really very interested to meet you in person

you are helping me by calling me an arab extortionnist , i ll be able to sue also for racist behaviour.i don t know how much it s paid in terms of prison or penalty ,that would still be interesting for me

just keep on posting interesting thing on your facebook,you are helping

hi ed

your daughter is in philadelphia

proof :

are with me,but as she is minor i won t post it here




your car s plate:


http://s11.postimg.org/udgw9k6kj/26359_10151246484761415_844781274_n.jpg

the idea is to forward all these information to the authorities so you ll be easy to find for them


if you need any other information about you from me,just ask

and PLEASE PLEASE GO COMPLAINT against me

thanks

hi guys

another thing i found,it s about his co called office in philly

this is what you can see in the facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=573667102648585&set=a.256153677733264.84632.162356203779679&type=1&theater

do you know where it came from?

from here:

http://www.ecofriend.com/choosing-eco-friendly-home-elevator-smart-choice.html

hmmm

What a looser??????

Ed,

Where is my refund?

the deadline have already expired a week ago,you didn t deliver anything,

this is your last chance before me starting the legal.

Ball is in your side

hi guys,

this guy is cheating on every side of his life,see what is his posting here:

http://s15.postimg.org/pfyevfe9n/edthief.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151086056361415&set=pb.679296414.-2207520000.1366562320.&type=3&theater

now let ask tineye.com about it:

result:

http://www.tineye.com/search/show_match/d9357ede89cac96cbdd0f1618c6660b3087d90ff/154ccbe8871271259a41352945bae55b227f64e1b2dc693414130e33b8bb56fe?m13=-41.4078&m21=-0.00125734&m22=3.09791&m23=-3.24335&m11=3.09791&m12=0.00125734

http://s10.postimg.org/m9jrdvsc9/edcheater.jpg

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aIk3b6q74rEJ:www.forjairondesigns.com/Gallery.html+&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk

i mean what do you gain to show a fake door of your fake house,if you are not a professionnal fraud?

really pitty of you ed

i m sorry for you,seriously

hi guys,

recently got news that our dearest scammer is involved also in insurance fraud and similar

i mean you have lot of skills,ed,

so what will happen when FBI or police will find you?


hmm i would not be really want to be at your place,

seriously i m very sorry for you

dykast you were not the only one whom he consulted here before going through with buying a very expensive custom server.
I tried to talk him out of it (we spoke mostly in PM on this forums) last month, but it seems it did not work.

I did try to tell him it would not be possible, they were exaggerating what they could do, they would end up disappointing him and it would be a mistake to trust them. They at best would be providing a relatively low hashing CPU / GPU mining Rig, massively over priced for what it was and it would not achieve what you wanted without using 100's or maybe in 1000's of GPU's, something you were not going to get.

I spent many more emails, going over many FPGA chips you found information on and wanted to know more about. In the end I just tried to convince you were better of with buying an ASIC machine or two, offering suggestions whom to trust in that area and whom not too.

Papamoi, I'd like to feel sorry for you, but it seems multiple people did try to warn you. People in the Bitcoin community, who are miners, know the technology and understood what it can and can't do. You decided to trust and believe a single company whom never done such things before, with upfront payment. They told you alot of obvious lies (to many here anyway), getting worse as you go along, to ensure you paid and didn't try to back out too soon.

I hope you get your money back, but it appears this is not a legit company, that contract you keep quoting means almost nothing.
It will be hard to next to impossible without a lot of legal action on your behalf, which could easily eat away at any money you could get back.

hi lethos,

yes we have discussed lot about it but as you see as i was half convinced(with him quoting google etc) i ve have the contract to mention the refund.

so as i said previuosly business is based on trust but it appears now that this guy have a big record of scams behind him:

he has cheated ex-employees,ex-partners,insurance,faking his website using photoshopped servers taken from others website.
he has been arrested twice and i hope he ll be third time as i m preparing to go legal this week.

he still keep on trying to make me believe that the servers exists (see his replies i ve got this yesterday with the threats).

i mean how can you believe that people can be at such level scam,this guy should be either in prison or either in psychiatric hospital.


anyway,i do not intend to stop here ,

keep you posted

thanks

so ed,


still no replies?

i still didn t got my refund

time is running

you have to decide quickly,here it s not the RAM price wich will increase from wednesday,but everything else,

so time is the essence here

i m just giving him a chance to do so

so let s start the game

He's also posting on his facebook that this (http://www.arquigrafico.net/pneumatic-vacuum-elevators-give-a-modern-look-to-your-home/) picture is of his office in another state.

The more I read his posts the more he really looks like a sociopath (specifically, Pirateat40). He is stealing people's money for the sake of perpetuating his lifestyle and probably believes he deserves it too.

papamoi, let me be the (4th? 5th?) to say you're an absolute idiot for giving this man your money. That said, this is absolutely comedy gold for the rest of us, because this guy is the type of obvious criminal that internet trolls would *pay* to find.

Thank you for discovering him for us. You may never get your money back, but you've given everyone in the world a reason to target him now. He's more of a liar than Pirate, but worse at it than even that FNIB creep (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13665) who made up having an office and photoshopped everything. This dude is just using stock photos from the internet claiming they come from his life.

EPIC CREEP.

He claims a "strategic new partnership with Derivative Concepts, Inc. as a reseller".

Considering no customer is dumb enough to give him money for his garbage internet sourced images of actual hardware, he's resulted to conning other business owners into doing the sales for him. Time to warn them of their impending "strategic" losses.

EDIT: Apparently there is a http://www.derivativeconceptsinc.com/ owner named Matt Reynolds who is either a real person who was suckered in by him, or is just another faux identity by this Ed Trice creep. I'll try to find some more direct contact info than just his gmail.

papamoi, he is not ignorant of bitcoin, he's purposely scamming you. He's offering bitcoin mining rigs to the general public now at this link (http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_21.shtml).

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_21.shtml

hi

this link was added after my order (19th of march)so he has seized the opportunity to take other people in his fishing net

this dumb have posted a picture of one of his titan card mining trying to show himself as smart guy in front  of his fb friend

let s hope that my legal actions will bring him on his knees

thanks for supporting

hi

this 50miner screenshot was is in fb,it seems he has removed it since:

http://s17.postimg.org/d316zn1hb/ed4.jpg


it s for  picturing my previous post

The funny thing is that his "bitcoin" systems are just not cost effective, even if they were real (if he's using CUDA, they are certainly not real). Take the first one:


To obtain 0.1 BTC/day at current difficulty, you need about 1800 MH/s. Three 7950's will do that for you--a barebones system with a 1000W supply and 3 7950s would be maybe $1400. His (fake) system is $4500!

Why would he claim such low bitcoin production since he is clearly making up the numbers anyway? And they payback times are pure fantasy. Anything that takes more than a month or two to pay back if you plug it in today probably will not pay back for a long time, if ever.

Worst. Scammer. Ever.

hi florida,

what i ve found odd here,is that these servers are more realistic one comparing to the two he promised me.

for sure, i would have never send him money if his proposals was the same as he has put online the 8 th of april 2013(3 weeks after my order)

obviously,this guy is deranged or something to act and lie like this openly

seriously he should visit a psyschiatrist or else

This is just sick...

at first... i thought the buyer/seller we're not connected...

buyer wanted bitcoin.. and seller trying to sell custom build pcs... thus the LN overclocking business...

the buyer probably taught the seller how to scam bitcoiners... that's why he is now more eager to create more crappy speedy computers which will obviously not last long due to abuse...

are you suggesting that i knew before that this guy was a scam?

i don t really understand what you are trying to say but i was scammed by this guy, and i discover day after day that all this was bullshit

if i knew the first day about this behaviour,i would never have sent him the money


so clarify what you want to say


thanks

I meant to say... you were their first victim (I think)... because.. from the messages you posted... it sounds like their replies are "WAY OFF" bitcoins or mining hardware...

Yes their custom build PC can mine.. but not that much... and they are just bluffing about speed/bitcoin per day... until the day you sent them money and it works on their side...

they probably know about bfl/avalon and how their system works now (via google search)... (send money to start working on hardware)... well this was not the case on their business at first... and now they know it works... and they're probably trying to scam more people who wants easy money in bitcoin...

thus their new page of selling bitcoin miners...

hi

just fyi,it s not the first time he is scamming customers,his ex employees and ex partners have confirmed me that there is at least 3 customers who have been cheated by him before me.he is expert in fraud and have already two arrests in his records.

all these things came out last week.

so even before btc or else,he is used to earn his life like this .frauding people,customers,employee(he owes 10k to one of them at least).


well,in a perfect world,this guy should never run a business and should sleep in jail,

unfortunately we are not living in a perfect world

hi guys,

just to update here.

The legal have started since yesterday.

Hope they will work fast and quick

thanks

Name
EDWARD A TRICE

DOB
12/05

EMAILS
liquidnitrogenoverclocking@hushmail.com - inactive
edwardtrice@aol.com

PHONE NUMBERS
610-818-5063 - confirmed business line
(215) 661-0276 - confirmed landline

SSN
179-58-xxxx

CRIMINAL RECORD
Crime Details - 01/16/2007 - DELAWARE, PA
HARASSMENT - SUBJECT OTHER TO PHYSICAL CONTACT (2 counts)

Crime Details - 01/05/2007 - DELAWARE, PA
DISORDER CONDUCT HAZARDOUS/PHYSI OFF  (dismissed)

EMPLOYMENT
Business Name: LIQUID NITRGN OVERCLOCKING INC
Phone: (610) 818-5063
Business Address: 2711 CENTERVILLE RD, WILMINGTON, DE 19808 (New Castle COUNTY)

ADDRESS
337 FARM LN, NORTH WALES, PA 19454

ADDRESS HISTORY (dates are approximate)
337 FARM LN, NORTH WALES, PA 19454-2349 (MONTGOMERY COUNTY) (02/1998 to 04/22/2013)
Owners: EDWARD J TRICE   &  PATRICIA R TRICE

164 ERVIN AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4314 (DELAWARE COUNTY) (04/2006 to 01/2013)
Owner: ELISA SLAUGHTERBECK

151 FRONEFIELD AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4317 (DELAWARE COUNTY) (08/17/2005 to 10/18/2012)
Owners: JOHN WOODALL  &  HEATHER WOODALL

804 VASSAR DR, HATFIELD, PA 19440-3472 (MONTGOMERY COUNTY) (12/13/2001 to 05/31/2011)
Owners: VENKATA BALACHANDRAN  &  RADHIKA RAGHURAMAN

BANKRUPTCY RECORDS
Chapter: 13
Case Number: 0415858
Filing Date: 04/27/2004
Dismissal Date: 05/06/2004
Closed Date: 06/15/2004
Assets Available: Y
Notice Type: DISMISSAL

Chapter: 13
Case Number: 0411131
Filing Date: 01/28/2004
Dismissal Date: 02/25/2004
Closed Date: 04/02/2004
Assets Available: Y
Notice Type: DISMISSAL

(He tried to file for bankruptcy twice and was denied both times)


JUDGMENTS (5 FOUND)
Address: 804 VASSAR DR, HATFIELD, PA 19440-3472 (Montgomery COUNTY)
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: JANSON D/B/A HOUSEINSPECT
Court Case Number: CV000030705
Total Judgment Amount: $505
Filing Date: 09/12/2005

Address: 151 FRONEFIELD AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4317 (Delaware COUNTY)
Filing County: DELAW
Filing Type: SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Plaintiff: LERMA C WOLFE
Court Case Number: LT000024105
Total Judgment Amount: $1,312
Filing Date: 06/30/2005

Address: 151 FRONEFIELD AVE, MARCUS HOOK, PA 19061-4317 (Delaware COUNTY)
Filing County: DELAW
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: LERMA C WOLFE
Court Case Number: LT000024105
Total Judgment Amount: $0
Filing Date: 06/15/2005

Address: 2190 SUNRISE WAY, JAMISON, PA 18929-1347 (Bucks COUNTY)
Filing County: BUCKS
Filing Type: SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT
Plaintiff: ERIC PELLEGRINO
Court Case Number: LT000053104
Total Judgment Amount: $5,532
Filing Date: 01/18/2005

Address: 2190 SUNRISE WAY, JAMISON, PA 18929-1347 (Bucks COUNTY)
Filing County: BUCKS
Filing Type: CIVIL NEW FILING
Plaintiff: ERIC PELLEGRINO
Court Case Number: LT000053104
Total Judgment Amount: $5,400


PROPERTY
337 FARM LN, NORTH WALES, PA 19454-2349 (MONTGOMERY COUNTY)
Owner: EDWARD J TRICE & Owner: PATRICIA R TRICE
APN: 56-00-04574-203
APN Sequence Number: 001
Date Subject First Seen as Owner: 07/05/1995
Date Subject Last Seen as Owner: 2012
Subdivision Name: WOODS/GWYNEDD UN 48
Legal Description: 50 X 93 4650 SF
Living Square Feet: 1,636
Land Square Feet: 1,636
Year Built: 1995

    Latest Tax Roll/Assessment Information
    Tax Year: 2011
    Tax Amount: $3,399.36
    Assessed Year: 2012
    Assessed Value: $132,460
    Sale Date: 07/05/1995
    Sale Amount: $137,137
    Book: 5118
    Page: 2465
    Total Value: $132,460
    Bedrooms: 2
    Baths: 2


    Mortgage
    Lender: TRUMARK FIN'L CU
    Mortgage Amount: $25,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Mortgage
    Mortgage Date: 05/07/2010
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Adjustable, Equity (Closed or Revolving), Conforming
    Mortgage Interest Rate Type: Adjustable
    Equity Flag: Yes

    Mortgage
    Lender: HARLEYSVILLE NAT'L BK&TR CO
    Mortgage Amount: $50,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Mortgage
    Mortgage Date: 10/31/2006
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Adjustable, Equity (Closed or Revolving), Conforming
    Mortgage Interest Rate Type: Adjustable
    Equity Flag: Yes

    Mortgage
    Lender: HARLEYSVILLE NAT'L BK&TR CO
    Mortgage Amount: $50,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Mortgage
    Mortgage Date: 11/15/2002
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Adjustable, Equity (Closed or Revolving), Conforming
    Mortgage Interest Rate Type: Adjustable
    Equity Flag: Yes

    Mortgage
    Lender: NAVY FCU
    Mortgage Amount: $40,000
    Mortgage Loan Type: Conventional
    Mortgage Deed Type: Deed of Trust
    Mortgage Date: 07/19/1995
    Mtg Sec Cat: CNV, Fixed, Conforming

Owner Relationship Type: Husband And Wife
Sale Date: 07/05/1995
Sale Amount: $137,137
Absentee Indicator: Situs Address Taken From Sales Transaction - Determined Owner Occupied
Deed Sec Cat: Residential (Modeled)
Universal Land Use: Condominium
Property Indicator: Condominium (Residential)
Resale New Construction: Resale
Residential Model Indicator: Based On Zip Code and Value Property is Residential

Gonna call his "partner" today when he wakes up and make sure he's aware of the situation.

hi matthew

that s very interesting

please keep us posted

thank you very much for your effort

hi guys

lol
at this:


+16108185063: Nothing will happen as long as you keep sharing FB posts and posting to DBs. When all comments have been erased, we'll talk, otherwise, you can forget it.

my replies:

+16108185063: Nothing will happen as long as you keep sharing FB posts and posting to DBs. When all comments have been erased, we'll talk, otherwise, you can forget it. 12:43 PM

Me: no pb so you will have some news from everywhere.you know fbi right?you know fraud departement of bit?i won t learn you anything.just keep on doing what u are 12:54 PM
Me: i mean the half of philadelphia is aware of your action.where do you intend to hide?a suggestion change id,that would help goog luck

papamoi, I'd recommend not communicating with him. Your English is atrocious and makes you sound like you're incompetent (incapable of doing harm to him). If I were you, I'd stick with the following routes to seek justice:

• continue speaking with authorities and reporting him for his crimes
• continue contacting those around him to warn them of his sociopathic scamming operation
• continue to ignore his contacts until a time when he is ready to agree to pay you back in full (which will be never because he already spent it to pay his mortgage)

As with all scams, you have a choice to make. You either destroy their reputation and lose the ability to reclaim funds (court orders don't help when the person hides assets), or you avoid destroying their reputation (at least until after being paid back) in an effort to be paid back. You've taken the first step while trying to do the second. In my opinion, this will make it harder for police to do their job as you will give him ammunition to call you a stalker and counter sue etc.

As for his legal claims of suit and you owing him money for calling, it's obviously all bullshit and it's equally obvious he lies for a living.

+16108185063: Lol none of the people you contacted believe you, and officer Duffy is getting your arrest warrant processed today. Harassing a cop is a felony in this 12:58 PM
+16108185063: country. Congrats, you are now being hunted. 12:58 PM
Me: lool making me laugh wait it s not finished yet oofficer duffy what a joke,why not donald duck?or matthew conolly? or nathan?or maybe your chief of operation? 1:02 PM

Me: soon or later you ll be caught all process have been put in motion,just wait 1:06 PM


Me: if u have anything to add,just text it,i love to share all your bullshits stuffs 1:09 PM

Really, you fell for this? You need to stick around on the internet a little bit longer. Not to mention a business that makes 1 mil with ese, has a better website and better images, if your going to do it good then at least do it like Butterfly lab  ::)
On the end though these scammers are also getting very annoying, they are freaking everywhere and seem to get away with it as well. It annoys me mostly that people actually fall for it, specially when the company or person who is trying to scam you can barely talk English like dis. But I suppose it comes with experience, and that you learn from your mistakes... I too must admit was scammed years ago, but that was only for a couple bucks =]

Papamoi, I'd like to repeat what I just said. Yes, we all know he's a ridiculous lying scammer now, but talking to him is not helping anything. You're just making him more confident because of your inability to speak professionally to him.

EDIT: I just got off the phone with his supposed "business partner" Matt Reynolds. He says he is not a business partner in any way shape or form, and that he collected 2 payments for referrals only from Ed regarding sending people to him to buy computers. I warned him extensively of Ed's operations and instructed him to do his own research (especially image reverse searches) and to protect his own company by not affiliating himself with sociopathic scammers. He said he has nothing to do with him already but will take the advice to heart and do a bit of research himself.

papamoi: PM me the information regarding your police report and such.

hi matthew,

i think there is a way to do all this in same time

pray for me while i m doing it

thanks

I don't believe in prayer, I believe in justice and contacting the appropriate law enforcement officials.

Well,
there is no justice if there is no humanity,there is no humanity if there is no justice.

don t worry they have been contacted already

i pm ed you

hey ed,

as am in favor of democracy,i ll ask the forum,if i should yes or no remove all my posts about you

let s let the democracy rule

are you Okay with that?

i hope you are

Burn him at the stake. He's a sociopathic pariah who has done this in the past and will continue to do it in the future. We have evidence of his lies and with every further lie he seals his own case in court.

Let the judge decide how to handle him in terms of months in prison and repayment.

the poll has been moved here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=185202.0

Please vote

papamoi: I just spoke with detective Kelsey of the NORTH WALES Police department and he said that EDWARD A TRICE was an elderly gentlemen and the name address given is for a retirement village. Although I didn't forward him any details just yet in regards to bank transfers and such, he says it sounds like a typical case of ID fraud and he believes that it is likely your funds were never actually sent to the person you think they were.

Time to do some research into "Ed Trice"'s photos and see who he the guy is that he is pretending to be.

hi

i think it s his father

the house is on the name of his father

but he is out there as soemeone took the call and claim to be the goofy he stated in the text,so all these trice are related to each other

scam family business

Email your claims and proof of wire and all that to jkelcy@uppergwynedd.org (Detective Kelcy). Detective Kelcy has confirmed the business and identity, but that the real ED TRICE does not live there in that county and is therefor out of his jurisdiction (emailing him will do no good). I'm now contacting Delaware County detectives to see what I can find.

I just spoke with Matt Reynolds again who claims that he had received payments through CHASE bank online banking from ED TRICE before, so I am also of the belief that this is not an international fraud, but just someone who is abusing his relationship with the real ED Trice, perhaps family, perhaps just ID theft.

I've asked him to forward proof of bank transactions to the detective as well.


EDIT: If it is just a scammer that is using random identities online to perpetrate fraud, then I would suspect the people in his facebook to also be fake identities (he has proven he creates these at will anyway). Take this guy he was talking to for example: https://www.facebook.com/jimmy.ojin That could also be a fake account.

Just read the last post by the FNIB creep (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13665). Ironically, the next post was from some dude wanting to do some type of Christmas Special to expose him.  ;D

BTW, Matthew, thanks for helping out with you efforts.

Later, bud.

~Bruno K~

One of the creepiest things (can't find it now) is that he refers to himself as the "Bill Gates of Pennsylvania". He's also deleting all my comments on his facebook now showing that his computers are all pictures from the internet, once with the excuse "this guy once worked for me, that's why" citing this photo as evidence.

https://i.imgur.com/liLbetB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WoBi4WY.jpg


(This photo originates from here, another post of his: http://c2cmods.com/showthread.php?143-4-8-GHz-x-18-cores-a-High-Speed-Stock-Trading-Server)

Matt Reynolds: http://web.archive.org/web/20090601070523/http://www.derivativeconceptsinc.com/

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/8676211012_81542c8197_b.jpg

Yep, I've been on the phone now with Matt Reynolds a lot. Have all his background info too. I don't think they're related other than this dude trying to use him, but I haven't ruled it out.

it s paid ad

i ve got confirmation from the newspaper

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_20.shtml#page_top

I'd like to find out who the person in those photos really is, because Ed Trice's birth year is 1936.

Detective Kelcy has confirmed the business and identity, but that the real ED TRICE does not live there in that county and is therefor out of his jurisdiction (emailing him will do no good). I'm now contacting Delaware County detectives to see what I can find.

I'm leaning toward Matt R. being LNO.

http://derivativeconcepts.blogspot.com/2013/02/emini-s-march-contract.html

hi phinneas,

mathew is not part of lno

as our mathew said he has drove him one or two customers and he paid him for that

ed trice is a living legend of scam in box building business(sigh)

the steve jobs of fraud

Just got off the phone with the guy (on the right in that picture). The guy on the left is someone completely unrelated, the guy on the right is also completely unrelated and is just being used by ED to make himself look better (both have seriously unflattering things to say about ED, mostly about their lawsuits or restraining orders against him)

What I've found out is this:

• ED TRICE has a history of scamming people in the chess community
• According to the guy in the photo on the right, ED has a history of scamming large trading companies with hardware orders (he has evidence of this), including the guy on the left who he owes an expensive server to. Neither of these people are ED and neither are affiliated with him any longer, both having been burned by his scams.
  
  
  https://i.imgur.com/liLbetB.jpg
  
• ED TRICE has embezzled company funds on numerous occasions (including to purchase that red convertible) and has screwed over everyone he worked with, setting up fall guys for a living basically

With this new information I'm absolutely certain that he's a serial scammer / sociopath preying on ignorant suckers. Matt Reynolds is just one of many people who have been suckered into affiliating themselves with him.

I'll keep talking to detectives and see how far down the rabbit hole this goes, but it's looking like a serious conman to me.

Since this is a serious scammer, I've created a new scam accusation thread here for the whole community to see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=185565

In all this ,

we have forgotten his past of scamming the chess community:

read it here:

http://worldofchess.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/man-selling-fake-fischer-book-at-world.html

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!msg/misc.legal/7N0NK9EGAx4/_FPIi79ZMLgJ


http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.games.chess.politics/2008-07/msg00218.html

http://aolanswers.com/questions/wrote_bobby_fischers_61_memorable_273763898210515/truth_ed_trice_hackmate_350700391544243

a professionnal of scamming

hi guys,

as phinneas has discovered:this guy was selling land on planet Mars

lol

so Ed you are still not decided to refund me?


or maybe you want me to buy some lands from you? on Mars?


lol

Can I move this over the scam accusation subforum now?

Please do! I made one there too.

hi john

why not keep one here and one there?

after all he claims to sell custom hardware for bitcoin

lol

That's probably not the way to go as you guys don't want him to change numbers. If you flood him, he might block you, but in the end, he'll probably change numbers.

I just want to point out that I have already been hired to find this guy and paid accordingly. I will contact my client to see if he will let me resell the info I collected, as people have already asked, but without in ok by my client, I can't do the investigation for anyone else as it may create a conflict of interest.

Thank you,   Eric

hi guys,

this was posted few days ago on his fb account

i have removed her daughter from it

(she s minor)

http://s16.postimg.org/4b3fg86l1/Ed_Post_2modified.jpg

hi guys,

this scammer has a long history of scamming:

here what he claimed on his fb page in 2011:

http://s9.postimg.org/x1hz4v75r/suitcase_2.jpg

http://s24.postimg.org/6r4yr7udh/suitcase_1.jpg

now see where he did took it from :


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?260157-Project-Portable-Desktop-!-Laptop

another stolen design from his ex-partner:

http://s21.postimg.org/kn4guzsrr/stolen_pic.jpg


so ed how much time do you think you are going still  to keep on running?

hi guys,

he has removed one of the photoshopped server he has on his fb page,

http://s23.postimg.org/86zj01v23/removed.jpg

but it s still on his webpage:

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/

EDIT he just remove the box from the main page of the website(lool)

but it s still here

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_17.shtml

so ed,

when you will refund my money and remove yourself from the market?

this should be the next and salvatory step for you....

ed,don t loose control,it s not yet over,

more to come....

i have two proposal here for you

choose the best one wich suits you and then we ll talk about removing my posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=185202.0

hi guys,

just an updates here,

the guy is loosing control in linkedin

lool

scam effect on your online popularity:


http://s7.postimg.org/orslichcb/scameffect.jpg

the page is in french but you can notice the logarithmic curve of when someone s scam goes public

his fb page was receiving two visitors a day before the 13th of april,after that you can see the difference

google also starts to like you so much:


http://s10.postimg.org/sf8e622vt/gog2.jpg

http://s17.postimg.org/732owbolb/goog.jpg

a pdf of his comments about btc when he was starting to get interest in it(after he discovered it from me)

http://pdfcast.org/pdf/ed-trice

It was good taking to you the other day i hope you can sort this out, I think you need a holiday,

When I first started reading this, I was under the impression that the OP was just playing along with the guy.

I thought we were all going to have a good laugh over how fucking pathetic this attempt to scam was.

I almost shit myself when I read the OP sent this guy over $40K.   :o

hi

yes money have been sent to him,

authorities have been alerted,all the machines are in motion,this guy have scammed many people:

*chess community
*just normal people(with the attempt to sell lands on mars)
*and recently traders and gamers who need high speed hardware


you can read his palmares in matthew s posts in scams accusations :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=185565.0

i m wondering how it s possible that the guy is still able to run a business and how the american authorities allow him to do so


this is amazing,he is scamming people since more than 10 years and he is still doing it freely until now....

hi guys,

this ugly sociopath and scammer ED TRICE starts flooding linkedin with the following message.

Beside being a CROOK he is also A RACIST

see below

(i ve removed names for privacy)
http://s23.postimg.org/iio8oa7bf/SCREENCOPY24042013modified.jpg

http://s16.postimg.org/3ttgl7igl/screencopy224042013modified.jpg

Another cheat from this RACIST SCUMBAG ED TRICE:

The owner of the following design is the guy who posted it here:

http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/threads/3913-F1-Ln2-pot-conversion-to-Evaporator?s=dfa956f9fa3e1bde5f229af1c78a55b6

but our favorite scumbag ED TRICE decided that he was the one who have made it:

http://s22.postimg.org/vd8suympt/Ed_Trice_Scam_A.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/4knp00fpd/Ed_Trice_Scam_B.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/jylz1762p/Ed_Trice_Scam_C.jpg

I wonder if this guy realizes how much attention he's about to get.

Yes!  Please CRUCIFY this Olympic class douchebag!

Hey there everyone, my first post here, well second anyway.
Thanks for the help in allowing me to post here.

This thread is about the most complete history of how Ed Trice has scammed computer/HFT people that there is, it’s very good to see this info coming out.

A brief history of this from my point of view.

Several years I was a member of a computer forum and Ed Trice made his first appearance and started showing off a checkers benchmark program and several of us ran this benchmark and submitted results. He was very impressed with the speeds in which our overclocked machines could run this benchmark. He contacted myself and another guy about if we had any desire to build boxes for clients of his. The other guy (name withheld unless he wants to post) had a machine already built that Ed came up with a buyer for. For some reason at the time this guy decided to bail on Ed and that’s when Ed contacted me.

Ed had a buyer for a machine but no builder, he contacted me to do the build and I said sure. I had been a care provider for my mother who had alzheimer's/dementia for the last 13 years and was super hard for me to leave the house so this was a welcome change and the chance to earn some extra money. With a few difficulties the machine was built, shipped off and I was paid. Great.

Things went on for awhile, I designed the machines and built them while Ed updated and built up the website.

Everything was on the up & up for a few years.

When the first big sale happened is when things began to get strange. See Ed had discovered HFT guys and felt they had tons of $’s so easy pickings.
Right around this time there was a machine that was damaged in shipping, I did see photos of the damage but it was minor but prevented the machine from booting. One of Ed’s favorite things to do was insurance fraud so he attempted to claim the full amount paid for the machine. The shipper who was a friend of mine asked me about this and I said this can be fixed easy, can we get it shipped back to me for repair. Ed want no part in this, yelled and screamed etc, I responded by backing out, said I want no part in insurance fraud. Finally the machine was shipped back, I had it repaired in 10 minutes and off it went saving the shipper ~$6,000.

I want t make it clear here also that I never had contact with any clients except and two or three occasions, I delivered a few machine sto the clients and had talked with a few others on the phone. Ed was doing all the LNO – client communications so I do not really know what was being told these guys.

I was just a box builder and never an employee.

July of last year or so I came up with a design called the HSSM (High Speed Server Module), a client purchased this machine and I went to New York to install it. This was a big sale for LNO.

Not much happened for a few months after that one until 3 other orders came in. Parts were ordered and I started building. I was asked by our shipper if Ed was going to pay for the shipping for the big New York build. This was about $2K or so still due. I talked with Ed and received some story about not paying him, he cleared payment and all was good, or so I thought.

First machine built and ready to go but for some reason it was hard to get a shipping address from Ed. Finally I did and off it went. The next morning I received an email from Ed claiming that the client had but a hold on the company CC because they had not received a tracking number and $6K had been pulled out of the account. I said that’s strange, got a tracking number for him and the client received the machine the next day. When asked to show me proof of the CC charge back he never would.

I now had most of the parts for a dual 2687w system using a ASUS motherboard that allowed overclocking and set this up in a test config, it could not be closed up at this time until the proper video card came. Ed remote in with Team View as he usually did to run his Prime Number cruncher (more about that in a bit). If any of you have been around servers you know how much noise these things make and being open it made even more. I was not going to run this thing for 24 hours unfinished, screaming away. Ed was not very happy about this, I wanted to wait until we had the proper setup, correct cooling and try and schedule test times that did not interfere with us so we could sleep, yes it’s that loud.

After screaming at me and making unreasonable demands I told him he needs to find another builder as I will finish the work I have here and that’s it, I will be leaving LNO.

Parts came for the 3rd machine, it was finished and yet I had a very hard time getting a shipping address from Ed, finally he did and off it went.

Finishing up the dual 2687w machine, I tested it all was good but I could not get a shipping address from Ed. His demands were unreasonable and he was becoming extremely hard to have communication with. Little did I know at this time that Ed had been in contact with another builder in my town, a friend of mine actually and managed to persuade him to get involved.

Around this time I went over to the bank because there had been several charges that came back with insufficient funds for ordering parts. This is when I saw what was really going on. Strange transfers of money, non company bills being paid. The reason the shipper had not been paid for the New York build was because of lack of funds, things were getting paid for past items off of new clients builds. I said I am done with this mess.

Still not being supplied with a shipping address for the dual cpu machine Ed filed a police report against me for Grand Theft with Stockton Police department, they refused it and said it was a Civil matter. I did call the police department and told they could not help him. I said I have the machine right here but he won’t give me a shipping address. They called him and got it for me and I shipped the machine.

This is an example of the emails I was getting from Ed at this time…

Dear Mr. District Attorney,

My name is Ed Trice, President of Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking. Today I received a threatening email from a disgruntled former employee named William Harmon, **** removed ***

His phone number is *** removed *** and I encourage you to call him and speak with him.

In his communications, he threatens to take our website offline and block all email access. I have confirmation from two other sources (bcc'd on this email), one of whom is a friend of his, that he has already shut down email services.

I am mailing to your office copies of the Articles of Incorporation showcasing that I am the business owner. I am also furnishing business cards that show Mr. Harmon as Chief Technical Officer, a subordinate.

Mr. Harmon is claiming that he is owed money, which is not the case, as my attorney Mr. Fred Wilf will submit to you in writing when I come back from the Notary Public office. In fact, Mr. Harmon owes our company money, the source of which was withheld equity partner contributions he was required to pay over the prior 15 months.

Mr. Harmon has grown increasingly unstable in the past month, and I regard him as a dangerous person. Be careful in dealing with him. His mother suffers from a form of dementia, and I believe this is well-known to be hereditary. In all likelihood, he is unwittingly suffering some form of mental breakdown. Perhaps a team of professionals should ascertain his present state of well being to see if he should be institutionalized.

As proof of my claims, I invite you to visit http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com to see if it is online.

More will come as both civil and criminal complaints are being filed against Mr. Harmon. I will send the docket numbers to you when I hear back from the Clerk's Office in Stockton.

Thank you for your attention to this serious matter.

Ed Trice
President
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

With this I was going WTF !! he has gone over the edge and ready to be beamed up to the mothership.
After I called Stockton police to see what is going on no actual charges were ever made against me, in fact he even yelled at a Stockton police officer who called Ed to get the shipping address for me to ship this last machine.

Ed transferred the domain to me long ago because he could not pay the $75 owed to the hosting company he had used. I had it in my 1&1 account all these years and I asked many, many times to take possession of it. Finally I gave him 30 days as the next billing cycle was coming around for me and I didn’t want to pay his bill yet again + he did owed me money for the last build in the amount of $2,688.

He simply would not take the domain back so I shut it down on the date I had said. He then used ICAN to do a hostile takeover of the domain LOL.

Now I am gone, I left, bye bye and wrote off the $2,688 as what it cost me to get rid of him


During this time my ex friend went to work for Ed and was scammed out of a great deal of money, Ed purchased a nice Dodge Red Viper with that money.


Time goes on when I started receiving emails/phone calls from ex clients who have not had contact with Ed for months, they have machines that have been RMA’d under his 18 month warranty, which means nothing, attorys calling me asking me for details.

I happened to be doing a google search and ran across  this thread and was shorty after contacted by papamoi and have assisted him, his attorys and law enforcement the best I can in nailing this scammer.

Sorry for the long post 


... oh yeah I forgot, Prime Numbers

You see when ever I built a machine Ed wanted to run this Prime Number program that looks for extremely large Prime Numbers. This is another of his big things as he wants to find the largest prime numbers he can and upload them with his name attached to it.

Every machine built had to run this program as a so called stress test. In fact its more stress full then Linpack. If you look at LNO website you will see this page.
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_15.shtml#page_top

Yes he was using clients machines to crunch prime numbers for his personal benefit.
And here is more work done on clients machine
http://www.jens-hartmann.at/Fritzmarks/

I spoke with him many times about this, the fact that this prime number program was running just to stress full on clients machines and risk degrading the cpu's before the client even gets the machine.

This is when I stopped doing this on the dual 2687w machine, being required to run this prime number program on 16 cores on a overclocked dual 2687w (these cost $1,900 each) was something that had finally crossed a line with me. He did not like this at all.

Thank you for posting. Ed may or may not read this thread, but it doesn't matter. Law enforcement is already involved. He's going to eventually have to explain all of this to a judge.

Thanks Matthew and it was nice talking with you the other day.

I have more to add but some I feel I need to with hold in order to protect clients, law enforcement will be told tho.

waouh

if this guy is not a criminal scammer ,what is he?

I totally understand now why you left this douch

i m still hoping authorities will act promptly this time and pull him out of the market for forever


thanks for posting and helping in this

Why is Matthew Reynolds' name still on this page? http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/contact_us.shtml

Because Matthew Reynolds has no control of that page owned by ED TRICE, and is just another mark Ed convinced to lend him legitimacy for his scams.

When I spoke to Matthew Reynolds on the phone, he said he has nothing to do with ED TRICE other than having sent him a few customers in the past and accepted funds for it. He also agreed to objectively look up his information once again to confirm the information provided. BuckeyeXS confirmed Matthew Reynold's lack of involvement on the phone as well.

Hey Buckeye, sorry to hear that you got mixed up in this. Curious, what handle did Ed go under @ XS? I haven't visited XS in years as my interest in overclocking waned and XS seemed to be imploding under weird management by Fugger. Just curious if I would recognize his handle. This all reminds me of the dude in Philly, I think his handle was Phillyboy or something like that.

It has been interesting seeing lots of the past brought up, Bazx's K|ngp|n F1 evaporator was a classic that reminded me of all the Danfoss compressors I still have sitting in the garage. Anywho, hopefully this guy gets nailed. I clearly read the situation wrong, it was much worse than I thought.

Hey Gomeler, long time no talk to man. Yeah I noticed that you haven't been around much. I figured you were off at school or something.

Gomeler is another great overclocker and has achieved many records and performed very well in competitions :)
Give me sometime to search those names down, I believe he had some there.

Ed is very good at making up fake people. I will come up with a list of fake people I know he has used.


This is a Pak-Mail shipping place. I used Pak-Mail as my shipper and the owner is a good friend of mine.

Repair Center for RMAs (call first to get an RMA number)
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
811 East March Lane Suite A
Stockton, CA 95207
916-710-6661

The other LNO locations which he posted on LinkedIn are these.
Google map these locations

811 East March Lane Suite A
 Stockton, CA 95207

 2929 Arch Street
 Philadelphia, PA 19104

 99 Wiltshire Road,
 Claymont, DE 19703

I drove by the March Lane address and snapped this picture. Its an empty location but from what I hear Ed has paid rent for some months. papamoi  did get in contact with the owner I believe.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1675/811eastmarchlanesuitea.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/811eastmarchlanesuitea.jpg/)

Through all the time I was at LNO there never was any office location, I built at my house and he did his thing from his house.

Sounds like Ed Trice the sociopath is ramping up his scammer game these days, getting a bit too comfortable because he hadn't been imprisoned yet.

You got sloppy ED. You should never had let us know about your existence.

2929 Arch Street in Philadelphia is the address for the Cira Center. I called the Front Security Desk in the Cira Center and gave him the company name of Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking, Company initials of LNO as well as his name "Ed Trice" and he checked the business listings, the company listings, and the business owners listings as well as the employee listings he has for the entire Cira Center and he stated "No such business with that name, initials, owner, or employee in the entire building."

:)

Because my name is listed here and I have asked him to remove any and all references about me I can debunk this link.

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_17.shtml

First off notice the photo shopped server picture again.

I did come up with the name of HSSM - High Speed Server Module, yuppers that's true

"The Production Release of the High Speed Server Module (HSSM) consists of three (3) servers each @ 5.0 GHz within a 2U form factor that are cooled externally by a rack-mounted 3U cooling solution. One entire HSSM is 9U, so four (4) separate HSSM units can fill a standard 36U rack."

Nope it was 3690's @ 4.8ghz

"As of today, Monday March 5, we have two HSSM products. One offers a full rack containing 48 cores of the i7-2700K overclocked to 5.0 GHz each, and the other features 72 cores of the i7-3960X @ 4.8 GHz/core. We can configure the systems with other similar chips, such as the i7-2600K, if the client needs a specific CPU that is comparable to the existing product line.

Despite their thin size, we can load them up with as many as 6 hard drives comfortably, and a possibly a 7th. The reason is that the cooling solution is mostly external, freeing up the interior space. The HSSM is truly a technological breakthrough."

The 2700K system was just a paper system, never built
And yes I did build a fantastic system if I do say so myself :)

"Chief Executive Officer Ed Trice was available for comment via video chat this morning right after the press release. He gave a talk to his sales staff, congratulated CTO Bill Harmon, and thanked the hardware engineers for coming in two hours early to start building some systems that had already been ordered."

I guess I totally missed this call or video chat, maybe he was chatting with the real Allison Coventry seen here...
http://www.naughtyreviews.com/escorts/mckenzie-huntsville-white-female
As far as other hardware engineers, there are none, or maybe he just gave his landscape engineers (gardners) a new title <shrug>
I guess he had them come in two hours early to cut the grass.

"Yes, I can confirm these facts now that they are no longer restricted by the NDA we had in place. These units have been beta tested at about half a dozen client sites for the past two months, and I happy to report that every one of those clients has already agreed to purchase the HSSM at their locations. We have additional orders for the HSSM-2700K this morning at 8:01 AM, well, before this actually, but I am officially calling it 8:01 AM, even though this was "kept under wraps." I believe this is a true indication that C-level executives in the Cloud Computing field understand that HSSMs will be a true game-changer. If you offer Cloud Services today and don't have High Speed Server Modules, you will shortly be following the path to obscurity and obsolescence. We will also be releasing Intel E5 versions of the HSSM with 16 physical cores per server, so 48 cores per HSSM. Our website will have more details as we get closer to its release date."

This is where I am real confused... there was a NDA and he actually had Beta Testers at a half a dozen client locations or the pat two months ???? This had not even been built yet.

So much bla bla here it's not even funny.

Truth is there was only 1 machine, this is it at my house in my rack running. It truly is a fantastic machine :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/7420/20120601150538.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/20120601150538.jpg/)

Here it is installed at Equinix NY4 for our client.

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/9373/hssminstallfinished.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/hssminstallfinished.jpg/)

The back side as we wired everything up and brought the system alive.

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/766/testingservers.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/testingservers.jpg/)

Now he likes to spout all kinds of nonsense about this install and try's to make grand statements about it which is a very common thing for him to do, take something simple and make it out as large as the big bang.

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/news_18.shtml#page_top

"We've had many such data center installations in the past, but this certification request by the staff at Equinix meant that our systems would be put through the wringer prior to being allowed into the cage area. We needed to make sure our 4.8 GHz HSSM-3960X product would perform flawlessly under any testing conditions that may have been thrown at it. We always test our systems for maximum performance under stressful CPU loads, but we did not have any idea what Equinix might require in addition. In the end, it was smooth sailing, and the system passed all of the tests from both Equinix, and our client, Black Phoenix."

Again I am confused as how can 1 data center in the past be confused with many. This was at TGS in LA who purchased 1 machine from us and it never made it into the data center as overclockable motherboards do not have IPMI and that's what they wanted in the end.
We had no wringer to go through, Equinix was just concerned about a water cooled system, there was no certification process to go through but rather just getting a shipping ok.
Equinix-NY4 is just a really big secure hosting place with direct ties into the NY stock exchange. The client just leased rack space there. There were no conditions to be thrown at us LOL

Fact is there was only 1 HSSM ever built.

Nope, no school. Ironically I stopped overclocking when I finished up school and got a serious job  ;D Just other hobbies now, BTC mining was a big chunk of my time and I enjoyed the steady income versus the handouts manufacturers would toss our way during competitions or with new product launches. I still tinker from time to time but with GPUs skyrocketing in price I no longer have interest in tearing down a brand new GTX680 to slather it in vaseline, poke at it with my soldering iron and blow it up under LN2. CPUs aren't too bad, looks like the 3770K is a cheap performer but 3D benchmarks were what was really interesting to me. Are you still overclocking and if so, what forum is used these days by the community?

I never really tore up any GPU's as they were simply to hard for me to get, besides paying for them with my own money. The quality of those so called handouts were pretty bad at times, I remember some ES CPU's that cold bugged by an ice cube and was expected to do great overclocks with LOL

I am still overclocking but its just for personal reasons and stopped uploading any scores long ago after I saw what was going on at HWBOT.

I still have all the LN2 equipment, super sweet monster phase unit built by Ron but the Cascade is long gone. With no hot gas bypass and CPU's CBing at such warm temps at the time it had no real use. I would love to get another or perhaps a 3 stager some day tho.

But yeah unless you have good manufacture support or really deep pockets going hard core in overclocking can be very expensive and I have pretty much done what you did, found better more productive things to do with my $'s & time :)

I remember back when I met you the first time all the drama that was going around, that was a big turn off for me also.

Oh yeah I forgot to add... I am still at xtremesystems.org

Back in the very early days of LNO Ed Trice-a-roni had a amazon account which he setup a store front.

We actually had a guy order a machine through the store.
Problem tho... Amazon takes like 15% of the sale and they hold all money until a tracking number is provided and it is actually delivered. Well this wouldn't work so that was canceled. This is what I was told anyway.

Desperate to get a review there he borrowed a CC from a friend and purchased a machine, then paid his friend back. The review you see is actually him.

http://www.amazon.com/Trinity-Lightning-Vapor-Cooled-I7-980x/product-reviews/B0042R3A2W

"By clocker_24x7 - This review is from: Trinity Lightning 5.0 Ghz Vapor Cooled Intel I7-980x 6gb/ssd
Saw this box at a Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking trade show, end of August 2010. Waited 20 minutes in line to get a seat to test drive it. Couldn't believe the speed! Blitzed through SuperPI, Prime95, and other benchmarks faster than I thought possible, and I overclock boxes to 3.8 and 3.9 Ghz myself. Bought one for myself just this week (10/5) and still can't get over the speed. It is 2.3 times as fast as my Intel Core i7 3.2 Ghz chip, meaning it would be like 7.36 Ghz if it was on that same motherboard and chipset! "

There never was a trade show and all this is BS... no surprise really.

Must be a different guy then. My bad! http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?seeMore=&split_page=5&type=member&item=131832294&gid=86999&ajax=ajax

(Remove the "ajax=ajax" from Bruno's link to make it more readable (http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?seeMore=&split_page=5&type=member&item=131832294&gid=86999)

I love how he claims things are "stolen" when he's probably the one stealing them and trying to commit insurance fraud.

Anyone with a LinkedIn account want to start posting his history and current scams there too? I don't use LinkedIn because I think it's retarded. So is Twitter. Sorry.

My thoughts exactly. don't know what's up with the world sometimes!

Either a sockpuppet or a match made in heaven: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/allison-coventry/50/310/763




Seach the CES 2012 booths yourself: http://www.mapyourshow.com/shows/index.cfm?SHOW_ID=CES12&alt_entry=true&curr_pri=facility&curr_sec=OO

http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Do-Dress-Down-Days-Affect-153542.S.208704818

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=179927355&authType=name&authToken=B9MN&goback=%2Egmp_4302037&trk=anet_mfeed_profile

http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Introduction-4302037.S.109033441

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=7035602&authType=name&authToken=qhsY&goback=%2Egmp_4302037&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-name


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8399/8683237182_ef6bdc953a.jpg

hi phinnaeus,

that s odd,this guy is claiming not to be part of this,he s still posting in his linkedin about this

he needs to clarify things here

thanks for finding it

Just link him to this thread.

Yeah I was waiting for that bit to happen as well.. then saw the $40k payment and had to read it again. I guess I did read correctly......
Still not entirely convinced.. something seems odd..

Papamoi you seem to be taking this fairly well. I would be rampant if it was me. Best of luck :)

hi guys,

i m taking it fairly well because i consider now it s a public salvation mission to remove this guy from the markets definitively.

so there is little risks i ll let all this down, i m cool guy but you better not try to piss me off...

We already know that Allison Coventry is a fake person he made up, I sent you pictures of her on FB that showed a stripper for her profile pic, which he changed to some one different as soon as he was called out on that.

Matt Reynolds was just suckered into Ed's scam as a sales person, he only stuck around for a short while and made a few random posts on LinkedIn to back Ed up in some cases.

Well this is interesting, maybe Matt is still connected to Ed in some way, I don't know
https://plus.google.com/100410167516999607067/posts

I believe Matthew called Matt and spoke with him.

As far as CES goes that was more misinformation from Ed Trice-a-roni.
It was me who went to CES that year and I went on my own accord, paid my own way and I was there to only visit Gigabyte as I was doing some review work for them at the time. LNO or Ed had nothing at all to do with that trip.

As you can see just about anything I did Ed made it sound grandiose and tried to use my activities as LNO's. Just like that picture with my Phase Unit, it had nothing to do with LNO yet he stole it and uses it still on his website.

*** Be warned, we are officially entering the Twilight Zone, the Mothership has beamed him up ***

This is an LNO Executive Summary Ed faked up to try and gather funds.

Check out the names he is listing :)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3977/lnoexecutivesummary.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/lnoexecutivesummary.jpg/)

This is a known list of fake people Ed Trice-a-roni has made up and using over the years, from forum posters to people he used in emails. I will update this as I find more.

Fake people

LiquidNitrogenOverclocking.com
David Dresden
David T. McCullough - Nightshift Supervisor  LOL
Mike Thomas
Allison Coventry
Martin Fisk

Overclock.net
cartaphilus

Linkedin
Allison Coventry

Spiceworks
Dori

Mathlab  www.Mathworks.com
Mike Thomas
David Dresden

Xtremesystems.org
SandyTunnel
kroks

Tomshardware
I am from Caspiar it sunk
There was another who was banned

Sandytunnel on XS :)

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2038/sandytunnel.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/sandytunnel.jpg/)

ROFL. He is claiming that Steve Wozniac of Apple is a spokesperson for him?

Yup  ::)

It's painfully obvious this guy has gotten by with his fraud for so long because people haven't noticed him. Congratulations Ed! You've been discovered!

You know what it's like having a TV special about sociopathic scammers, starring you? To be reported to every newspaper in your district? To have law enforcement pushing judges for warrants for your arrest?

Your life is about to get hilarious (for the rest of us).

why the hell does he use his real name ? Or you guys suspect its fake as well ?

Nah it's him.

He's a no-talent scammer who has basically just remained unnoticed until now. Remember Bruce Wagner? He just *had* to get involved in media. This cockwit Ed Trice just *had* to get involved in bitcoin. He will regret the day he ever heard of bitcoin.

Interesting youtube I found.
Read some of the comments also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54I8wqm2NeE&lc=JU7fT-93LS3y_svldGUiwU-6aJv4VLrIVBk_UOUOSBc

hi guys
another fake account trying to defend this CROOK


http://s22.postimg.org/rg3hsowpd/anotherfakeacct.jpg


link of this fake account:

https://www.facebook.com/shang.tsung.3139

Nah not a fake account, more like a friend who he got to make that post.

I actually met Mr Ed in New York when we did that install on 7-9-12
Here is a picture I snapped of him

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5624/20120709083033.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/20120709083033.jpg/)

What an aweful disgraceful over-obese bastard

 :P

hi guys

i think this ugly over-obese bastard is in the place just read below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106760

http://s16.postimg.org/44qqx9z1h/sc1.jpg

http://s2.postimg.org/6k02s1bnt/sc2.jpg

http://s23.postimg.org/gq11lriqj/sc3.jpg

lol first the "cop" wants all the info you have on them the suddenly the $300k reward appears. hehe its classic.

I remember when I worked at one of the ISPs a number of years ago.. my boss gave me a request to start sniffing a certain customers traffic which had come from the federal police... I asked to see the email ( just cause I was bored and interested) the cops email address was @gmail.com. It still took a while to convince my boss the legal group should be looking into it before we comply with the "police".. good times :)


If only you had been this diligent when sending your money across the first time :(

*edit*
double LOL -  just reread it again and saw the bit 'about contacting the department early to our might mean you forfit your funds'... what a tard. I guess this explains why he would use his real name...


Instead of messing around on the forums Papamoi, Just go pay him a visit......

It is highly entertaining to watch someone so disconnected with reality try to protect himself. It's like watching a kid with chocolate on his face try and tell everyone that he didn't steal a cookie.

I suspect Ed is not going to last very long in prison and would do anything to plea bargain against having to go. If he were smart, he would have recognized his mistake earlier and given every penny back to papamoi before he garnered this much attention. This is how all common crooks fuck up; they get sloppy in front of the wrong people.

Officer Smith would like to speak with you in the parking lot.   :P

http://s17.postimg.org/uvzpkuvwv/officer_reynolds.png

I feel sorry for Ed if he actually does have a daughter. Instead of apologizing to papamoi and refunding him, he's building a wall of evidence against himself and digging himself into a hole from which he may never be able to see his daughter from again. I'm actually quite surprised he's stayed alive this long to be honest. His pathetic attempts to scam millions from "investors" while lying about "Steve Wozniac" being his company's spokesperson will go down in history as one of the most ridiculous sociopathic pieces of evidence against him ever.

This fruitloop is comedy gold. Keep the gold coming Ed, it keeps us motivated to see this through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Y69p1Lx48

Just for comedy, I called the number our fat copn man supplied and there is no "Randal Smith" working there. There's also no detectives working there (it's the police district call center).

Ed is either mentally retarded, lived as a sociopath so long he thinks everyone believes him, or just lazy because no one has banged on his door yet.

Patience Ed. Paperwork takes time and the FBI takes a tad longer than local law enforcement in international fraud cases.

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/03/27/salesforcecom-1000-servers-at-equinix/


Recent atitivity on his LinkedIn page: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=7035602&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=W1s8&locale=en_US&srchid=72b3045c-b1a2-48da-92cd-7d1ad22d991e-2&srchindex=1&srchtotal=12&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Matt_Reynolds_*2_*2_*1_*2_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_G%2CCC%2CN%2CI%2CPC%2CED%2CL%2CFG%2CTE%2CFA%2CSE%2CP%2CCS%2CF%2CDR_us%3A49_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Q4mgr75inoQJ:frontend.spiceworks.com/profile/show/Matthew%2520(LNO)%3Ftab%3Dactivity%26filter%3Dhelpful_posts+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Why does a stock market Guru freelance as a salesman for a scammer? You telling me Matthew Reynolds is able to research stocks for his clients yet wasn't able to vet Ed Trice given all that was out there in the chess community. http://web.archive.org/web/20081212002330/http://www.cosmicspeculator.com/story.htm


BTW, Matthew D. Reynolds was president of COSMIC SPECULATOR, INC.: http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=%252bBaRiywmSotnIVm0wTBb%252fA%253d%253d&nt7=0

Ed has never met Matt as far as I know.

Ed did tell me about him and I did see a few emails but when we talked on the phone Ed described it like this...

You know the TV commercials that have the stock trading systems, that's what Matt does. He sells a package with computer and software + training. These guys know that most people get involved in stock trading and have no idea what's really going on so they invest a lot of money only to lose it. People like Matt & Ed are more then happy to take these peoples money.

I did ask Ed at some point if he ever generated any sales because I never saw any machines that needed to be built for him, Ed said no.

Henchman24 that picture is to funny man :)

Time to add his Blackjack System into the mix: http://edtrice.blogspot.com/2009/03/highlights-from-career-of-ed-trice.html

Bruno, in that blog he wrote about himself, he shows a supposed glowing recommendation by "Don Lafferty". Keep in mind, this is the same Ed Trice who claims he met Bobby Fischer (and can't prove it to anyone) and pays people to write articles about himself.

https://i.imgur.com/LTPth57.jpg

Here's a snippet of the contract between papamoi and Ed Trice:

https://i.imgur.com/R9ZB9Os.jpg

Here's what caught my eye:

https://i.imgur.com/osxUgpW.jpg

Keep in mind the first was done on a computer in a PDF file.

LOL I found that blog the other night.
You do know it was written by Trice-a-roni right ?

He has a habit of creating blogs all over the place, having newspaper articles printed that he created.

I do not know what deal he had with Alexis Skye but he sure played her for all he could media wise.

He is the true egomaniac and has plastered himself all over the internet, creating his own Wikipedia and with his scam on gothic chess, my 61 memorable games etc., that has been plastered on just about every website you can think of.

Just do google search of "Ed Trice Scam", "Liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com scam" and scroll through the links, that junk not only hurts your eyes to read but it will give you a headache after reading how he can twist any simple question into a paragraph of nonsense that usually starts out with "if you were correct I would agree with you".

I have looked over so many emails with this stuff its not funny, after awhile it's just simply painful to keep going and read his garbage. The textual banter that he with a client was enough to drive you insane.

Hey don't ruin it for the rest of us. We're still "discovering" Ed for the first time, in all his delicious scumminess.

HAHA sure have fun :)

I should create a blog with all these emails LOL

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1d78sw/ed_trice_scammer_rips_off_bitcoiner_for_47220/


It just so happens that edtrice.com was just registered. I bet the person who registered it would be happy to point that to your blog when it's ready.

I bet he will  ::)
Think he will link this to it  ;D

Imagine what edtrice.org or edrice.info linked to all the great stuff would do to his career.

He has a career?

Oh right, you mean marks. Yea, it'd probably scare the marks away.

i like this one

lol

Over on his LiquidNitrogenOverclocking facebook page he has a few comments about what he calls a Flash Server. Now I have played around with Phase Change and used plenty of LN2 here but this comment about how his micro channel heat pipe system works is about the biggest line of bull I have ever seen. But people with out any HVAC experience would not know about this stuff. He really is a special kind of used car sales person.

This term micochannel heat pipe came from a visit he had with QuantaCool, Inc. and there tech which you can see something about it here. There is no way a system like that is going to fit into a 1U server case or cool a stack of servers. QuantaCool was contacted and warned about Mr. Ed.
http://www.quantacool.com/photogallery.html

"Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Microchannel Heat Pipes are gravity driven with no pumps and a condenser which must be mounted at the top of a rack. The vertical drop height from the liquid to vapor phase is slightly more than 10U, which allows the system to self-pressurize. For that reason, it makes sense to sell "10 U worth" of servers at a time, so we only sell them in bundles of 10 installed at a client site. It's $145,000 for 10 of these servers, so 40 cores x 5.4 GHz, or roughly $14,500 each if we could sell them one at a time. Bear in mind this includes travel costs for an installation team (air fare, hotel, meals) so it's not like an off-the-shelf product."

It just like the pictures he has up about his new magical server, he goes someplace and takes a picture, this then becomes his new magic product. Fact is he has never built a machine or even overclocked a system nor does he have anyone that could build anything.

i think so

the screen copy is under examination at the moment i m writing


i think this is something wich will interest the authorities

hi guys

i ve found this :

http://gothicchess.blogspot.co.uk/


and this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KQ8DMAfZCik/SYarDQ95niI/AAAAAAAAADI/op8BPLrbhS4/s320/alexis_ed_elevator_iceland.jpg


and this:

http://www.avlerchess.com/chess-misc/Ed_Trice_loses_the_plot_307808.html

the funniest is probably this one:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alexis_Skye_and_Ed_Trice.jpg



lool

http://gothicchess.blogspot.co.uk/


I wonder when the next Saint Laurence School class reunion will be. I'm just saying!  ;)

Nope.

seriously?
 ::)

Yeah you're a dumbass who spent 50000 dollars on a magical mining rig that doesn't exist with no proof it existed.

Now you're going through and finding photos of the alpha male (and man do i use that term loosely) who beat the shit out of you at a high school reunion.

And it only makes it sadder because if you'd spent two seconds doing the shit you're doing now you'd not have lost 50000 dollars.

And considering your previous forays into day trading that ended miserably as well as your posts on this forum before you got taken in asking people to build ASICs for you or asking people how you could make 785 btc easily because you didn't have 785 btc to spend I can tell you're a getrichquick guy who'd sell his own mother for a 'sure thing'. 

On top of all that, you're petulant, defensive, and abusive to anyone who offers even constructive criticism. You are a sad shell of a person who thinks he's entitled to shit and as an American with nothing but Indian ancestry, I'm fucking tired of people like you giving our people a bad name.

And as a police officer hoping to make detective someday, I can tell you that with your attitude, the police are going to treat you about as seriously as a man who bought a unicorn or some magic beans.

hey ed

how are you?

so are you still trying to know where we are in our investigation about you?

please keep writing here while the authorities,the real one,not you will find you

just keep us updated about what you re doing....

 :)

So this is how they train police officers now a days, eh! I'm goin' make two guesses as to whom this account belongs to: Ed Trice or an SA troll. Mighty fine detective work, if I may say so myself.

I firmly believe that Dank has a better chance of putting together a Million Man Concert than The_Authorities making detective.

I'm goin' go out onto a limb here and say, "Stick your badge up your ass and rotate!"

The thing that's so fascinating to me is that you bitcoiners stick together even when one among you is a really scummy character.

Believe it or not I'm actually someone who finds your delusions of grandeur hilarious and not Ed Trice (I imagine his head actually exploded when the 50000 dollars showed up at his doorstep because he couldn't believe anyone was actually that dumb).

I also don't venture to guess what a South African troll is, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that you're sympathetic to the sorts of power structures that put apartheid in place.

Anyhow since you seem so sure I'm wrong, what do you say you back up your assertions? Simply put, if papamoi over here gets his money back from the police anytime in the next 365 days (there are official documents he'd have to show, he can't just assert he got it back), I'll pay you 1000 of your magic fairy money called bitcoin. If he doesn't get it back, you send me 500 btc.

You of course wont accept because, like your funny money "currency", you're completely impotent.

hey ed,

how is life with you?

still trying to be interesting to show how smart you are than the average joe?

keep on writing here,we need your help to progress in all this

Congratulations, Ed! It normally takes a person weeks before they go off the deepend on this forum. You accomplished the task in under 16 hours.

BTW, in case you missed it, some clown started another thread on this forum dedicated to the Amazing Ed Trice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189953.0

no replies from the ugly over-obese ed trice?

you seems to have less imagination than i was thinking....

hi guys,

Another fictious servers from our ugly fat-ass scammer:

http://s15.postimg.org/olkyk4msr/edfunnyquotes.jpg


ROFL

Wow you people actually think I'm ed trice because you can't fathom that anyone else could find you repulsive.  This is an adorable forum.

And you wont take my bet because you've no balls; that's a shame but expected. Rage on in your little monopoly money forum gentlemen, talking feverishly about an investigation that's not happening, making gay sex jokes, lashing out at the shadows, and expecting big mommy government to coddle you and tell you it's not your fault you spent 50000 dollars on a bridge.

what you are already upset we have discovered you?

seriously what are you think you are doing by writing your non sense posts?

we have started things to stop you,and we plan to follow this up until you end in a jail or somewhere similar

so please keep on playing smart ass here

we all enjoy it here

haha  Thanks!  I wonder if they'll let you read it from prison, Ed.

Nice to see Ed Trice-a-roni has shown up with his usual bully tactics. Funny to see him calling himself an alpha male LOL
Truth is this egomaniac has left nothing but a legacy of scamming across the internet with not one person saying anything good about him, except himself on blogs he created himself.

I love getting contacted by clients wondering where the heck has Ed disappeared to, not answering phone calls or emails for months as they try and find RMA’d machines which get returned finally as DOA. Yup more fraud shipping insurance claims. His pitiful excuse of being too sick to answer the phone or respond to an email yet he claims to have such a big company and someone like fake Allison to run the show in the office. Fact is there is only Ed and no one else, well maybe one other kid in Stockton who is also hiding out.

Ed’s new claim to fame is trying to make it to the top of some magic prime number list. In his attempts to get this magic prime number to make his new claim to fame he uses clients machines to crunch before they get shipped out until he finally scammed enough to get his own machine which he will most likely burn out. He thinks of himself as some great mathematician but I wonder how much of that he has stolen also.

Look at the LNO website and you will see one of his magic prime numbers he found while using a client’s machine before it was delivered. He had no problem risking clients hardware to further his personal goals which is what I put an end to in my final days building machines for Ed.

Posting what he has about papamoi only shows Ed’s true character, that he has no morals or business sense and lacks the ability to do the right thing in the first place by being truthful to a client about system specs or that such a machine can even be made by him or his company in the first place.

A client who backed out of a large sale saved themselves lots of $’s as Ed simply could not supply hardware that worked and his long verbose pile of BS as a research report that Ed came up with to try and cover the fact he had no idea what he was doing just shows something I was thinking all along… why do we never have any repeat customers ?

Holy shit you guys are dense. You really think I'm Ed Trice.

I imagine Ed Trice isn't messing around on a forum, he's probably out enjoying papamoi's 50000 dollars (although where did papamoi get all that money after he lost a massive amount of daddy's money with his foray into day trading where he similarly asked others to do all his work for him?)

Anyway if I'm Ed Trice shouldn't you be reporting all of these posts to the open case that the police have for your complaint? Because we all know police fraud departments don't spend their time investigating elder abuse or ponzi schemers. They spend their time investigating entitled Indian kids who get pissed that they never got their unicorn that shits magic beans.

Hold on, Imma go pop another bag of popcorn.

Sure you're not Ed Trice. You're just a cop who wants to become a detective some day.

I'm curious as to who wrote this 3 Post blog: http://overclockedcomputerreviews.blogspot.com/

And now a song that best personifies The Amazing Ed Trice (TÆT): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysu0acmappk

are you still here?

keep on writing your dejection as ugly as your fat-ass, over-obese scammer,

if you are not this scammer, i m still trying to understand what are gaining in trolling around?

do i owe you something?

i do not know you and i m not willing to know you

so help me understand what is your exact problem?

are you depressed?if yes,we ll help you to find a doctor?

do you have any other issues,talk to us ,we ll try to help you our best

in one case or another,don t waste our time and yours by trolling here,it s a serious matter and authorities have been alerted so it s not kindergarden or any kids game

if you have time to waste,please waste it elsewhere ,not here

thanks

So what fat ass?

that s gave you  a reason to cheat me ,ugly scammer?

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if we have a PinkiePie II in the works, where I'm playing the role of Rassah.

Seems the goons are having a little fun with this episode over at SA.

another picture of the scammer

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/sharro123/trice/ED-TRICE.jpg


http://www.dracis.com/profiles/GothicInventor/gallery/78B777E8/

Why would you give this guy money? He has a look on his face that is making me want to head butt my monitor.

Well its not like this forum didn't warn papamoi, but I'm guessing he's desperate to get back and have one big score after he got caught embezzling client funds in 05. Of course we're to believe there was a software error that lost all that money but I'm sceptical.

Looks like an old feud is being rehashed, akin to an Elvis impersonator and karate instructor recently in the news. The only thing missin' is a envelop laced with ricin or a ransom note payable with bitcoins.

I'm just a guy who finds it hilarious that there's a pack mentality around here to coddle papamoi's completely braindead actions when the proper response should be "you asked us about this twice, we told you it was dumb, you bought it sight unseen anyway. in short, we warned you dumbass."

I mean this isn't the first time he's lost 50000 dollars or thereabouts. At least this time, it appears to have been his own money and USD instead of euros. This also isn't as much of an NFA and CFTC matter since he's not fucking up futures this time around.


edit: lol, a bit American-centric with your spellings there. Brits don't use z nearly as much as Yanks, understandable you'd not seen the spelling before: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paralysed

Notice papamoi already admitted to the things I brought up. In your haste to attack a charlatan, you're defending another.

I'm not sure if "The_Authorities" is Ed Trice or not, but whomever they are, they sure seem absolutely desperate to derail this thread.

He posted the minimal amount in newbie jail (including advice to others that it's safe to use Paypal for buying bitcoins)


Then he comes here to spray verbal diarrhea sandwiched in between a new accusation every post.

Where did papamoi ever say he was a police officer? Isn't Ed Trice the one pretending to be a police officer (philly_cop)?


When did papamoi ever say he was day trading previously?

Depends on the case. In Ed Trice's case, the FBI is more interested than any local police would be due to the interstate and international wire fraud.


Indian? Where?


What motorcycle accident? What kid? Can't you spell paralyzed?


What embezzlement?


What? Where?

You basically made a brand new accusation every single post, but never provided any evidence whatsoever. You're either a really bad troll with the mental capacity of a 12 year old, or you're Ed Trice (same qualifications), desperately attempting to keep the focus off of the fact that Ed Trice is an habitual liar, conman, and will soon be in prison for a number of things (including but not limited to insurance fraud, attempted insurance fraud, larceny, conspiracy to defraud investors, fraud, wire fraud, etc).

Thanks for giving me another reason to post here about Ed Trice, the con-man. Can't wait to see the new blog about him going up.

Something is definitely not adding up at all here!

The best thing to come outta all this is my epic The Amazing Ed Trice thread, hopin' it'll go viral so that I can sell some Tees and Mugs.

Seriously, I'm seriously (sorry 'bout using that word trice) thinkin' 'bout ^TM the phrase Ed Trice.

So now you're British? Just yesterday you were American with all-Indian ancestry.



The only thing he admitted to was being stupid enough to trust a scammer. You're here to attack a victim though? Really? Are you also a rape apologist in your spare time, Ed?

Believe it or not its possible to be born in one country and move to another (Suppose we can add that to the list of things you don't know like sometimes words have different spellings). I still spell most things the Liverpool way, anything else looks funky.

And if you really see papamoi as a victim, your nose for business is worse than I thought.

Who said it wasn't possible? You're the one claiming to be American (and thus outraged at someone else you think is American) then claiming to be British (and thus outraged at someone for not understanding your spelling). Which is it, Ed?

Stop flailing. You got caught out, it's okay. You thought Americans can't spell things in a British way and I pointed out we indeed can, especially when we were raised in the UK first.

And now you're accusing me of being Ed Trice (wrong, sorry pal) and demanding I either discount my first ten years alive or the following years to the present day because your peabrain can't handle such earth-rocking concepts as 'people who have lived in two countries.' No wonder you're working so hard to defend papamoi, if people find him out, your stunted intellectual growth can hardly be far behind.

hi troll,
have you smoke something your brain can t handle?
or are you frustrated with your life?
let us know,maybe we ll be able to find medecines/remedies for you

you re probably some insane troll with your half neurons gone smoked by crack or something else.Just go troll away,this is not a kindegarden.
we have more serious matter here

lol

i do not know who is this troll,and why he is wasting our time here

he is probably be one of the ed sucker paid with my money

let s wait and see

I imagine there are more serious issues for papamoi, he must be very busy contacting the FBI, that is as long as he isn't too worried about them finding out about his sympathies with Islamic terrorism. What was it he said? That he can understand why Muslim terrorists bomb people?

Must be real easy to say to the FBI : "Yes I wanted a machine that could be used to launder money and yes I have expressed sympathy with terrorists, so when do I get my money back? "

lool

now i m becoming terrorist(p.s for ed trice i m an arab extortionist) ,

emblezzer,have paralized one boy,do you forget anything else?

please add if you have anything else , i m very interested in all this

i mean it s easy to accuse people like this when you are hiding behind an id

things are becoming interesting

I never said it was a boy. I wonder where papamoi got that information ...

papamoi in 2007:

Voila pourquoi les musulmans sont hais de par le monde:Grace à des gens comme toi et tes amis wahabis,salafis et que sais je encore qui tuent des personnes innoncentes,font exploser des mosquees:Apparemment t a rien compris au veritable ISLAM,je perds mon temps a te repondre QU ALLAH SWT te pardonne ILLAHI AMINE

Anyone want to translate? It roughly translates to "this is why Muslims hate the world because you and your friends kill the innocents and you're going to get what's coming to you. I wont waste my time answering you, pray Allah will forgive you."

seriously?

i understand now,you are a very limited guy and trying to attract some interests here,lol

so what is your conclusion on that sentences?

do you have some available neurons capable of analyzing the sentences?

or are you waiting behind your bed that FBI will ring your door soon or later?

poor of you ed, arab,terrorist,emblezzer or what else?

whoever i ll be,it won t change that you re a FAT ASS UGLY SCAMMER

anyway keep on posting here

you are having my attention at least

 

I never said it was a boy. I wonder where papamoi got that information ...

papamoi in 2007:

Voila pourquoi les musulmans sont hais de par le monde:Grace à des gens comme toi et tes amis wahabis,salafis et que sais je encore qui tuent des personnes innoncentes,font exploser des mosquees:Apparemment t a rien compris au veritable ISLAM,je perds mon temps a te repondre QU ALLAH SWT te pardonne ILLAHI AMINE

Anyone want to translate? It roughly translates to "this is why Muslims hate the world because you and your friends kill the innocents and you're going to get what's coming to you. I wont waste my time answering you, pray Allah will forgive you."


let me help your limited brain to translate french in english:

so it says:
 This is the reason why muslims are hated all over the world:Because of people like you and your friend wahabis and salafis(just google wahabism and you ll find out who are these guys) and whoelse who are killing innocent people ,exploding mosks:Apparently,you didn t understand anything to what is the true ISLAM,I m wasting my time answering you.MAY GOD ALMIGHTY forgive you Amen


so Ed,unfortunately it shows that your latin skills also are fake as well as the other skills you attribute to yourself

it little bit different than your google s translation isnt it?


UGLY OVER-OBESE SCAMMER

And about the boy ,you posted it here UGLY SCAMMER

Matt quoted you before your got it deleted:

That motorcycle accident must've really fucked up his head, but he shouldn't have been going 50 kph over the speed limit. I wonder how that kid he hit is by the way, still paralysed from the waist down, I imagine?

Exactly, where did I say it was a boy? I didn't, I said kid. You said boy because you know the gender of the kid you paralysed while going 50 over the speed limit on your motorcycle.

And thanks for admitting to making that comment, that was the point, its called a trap. Now I know for sure you're the papamoi who lost 50000 of his clients euros back in 05. Still under sanctions from the NFA and CFTC over that?

ED you are seriously limited

quoting you is admitting anything you said?
are you insane or something?

this thread is about you scamming me of 47220 usd.

but you just wait while the real authorities take care of you

in the meantime you can waste our time here.mine is not wasted as i m waiting impatiently while you ll be caught

so keep on posting,i enjoying it

by the way,just a question whoever i am or was,does that give you the right to scam me?

just confirm this as i m trying to understand how your damaged neurons and brains are working

You still think you're talking to ed Trice, I'd ask you to make a bet on that, but God knows where you'd steal the money from to pay me.

Sorry pal, I'm just a random wellwisher who knows the scummy shit in your past and is revelling in the fact that you're getting a bit of comeuppance. Maybe that ringing in your ears is your conscience, mate.

Ed

how cheap you are

you just replied to my linkedin post and i think the authorities will appreciate all your posts all over here and there

so let s wait and see

i know the authorities are slow and it s give you time to play and joke here and there

appreciate and enjoy it as i don t think it ll last

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i ve just came to this

http://buttcoin.org/the-greatest-story-never-told

lol

Long time ago we had this guy contact us about building systems, it was pretty clear that just his name was enough to send Ed into a tizzy. He never misrepresented Grumman so I have no idea where this comment came from, maybe Ed's paranoid or something.


Gentlemen:

Apparently Ali Fatahi is an Iranian National working for Northrup Grumman and engaging in credit card fraud and possibly other criminal activity. He is misrepresenting Grumman, claiming his own person project is one that will be paid for by them, and this is just plain wrong.

Tens of thousands of qualified Americans are out of work, and we have this low life getting away with fraud. He is probably the tip of a much larger iceberg.

Please forward to me all email correspondence you have with him. I will take care of this once and for all.

I thank you for your cooperation.


Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

We've known for a long time you were pulling a stolen credit card scam.

The FBI has been notified, along with the phone numbers you have been using.

They have all of your I.P. addresses from the emails we have forwarded to them.

I suggest you get your fucking ass out of Xtreme Systems and try your bullshit elsewhere, ASSHOLE.

hi guys,

so let s sum up here OUR UGLY FAT-ASS OVER-OBESE SCAMMER ED TRICE talents or qualities:

if anyone wants to add on it,please feel free to complete  in replying this post:


-UGLY
-FAT-ASS
-OVER-OBESE
-LIAR
-SCAMMER
-RACIST
-ISLAMOPHOBIC
-EGOCENTRIC


for now this is what is coming to my mind, i m sure there is people out there with better english than me ....

so feel free guys,

hahahahaha the bbb?

oh man, the lulz. so many lulz. Thank you so much for them.

Have fun with glorified yelp, buddy, you'll get your money (or maybe it was your client's money again?) back in no time!

And for those of you who have been wondering, here's that piece of papamoi's past where he embezzled 50000 euro and then blamed it on a software glitch:

http://wh.macd.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&&action=printable&tid=4141

While I am on your side in this argument the fact that you keep on calling Ed 'ugly, fat-ass and over-obese' isn't really helping you. Being someone who is all of these three things I take offence that you continually use them in denigrating Ed.

Also it makes you look petulant and childish. I would just stick to the true negatives, like him being a liar and so on.

Sorry grim
but not offense for you,all is destined to this FAT-ASS OVER-OBESE and PATHETIC SCAMMER

as you should have notice,english is not my first language so i ve limited words for describing this UGLY FAT-ASS OVER-OBESE RACIST

SCAMMER


his last post make me add one more of his qualities:

-PATHETIC
-ILLITERATE (As he seems not to understand what it s written in the post and who wrote it)

anyway,he has enough qualities to attract my attention and of the local and federal authorities


so let s help him to enjoy his probably last free days

papamoi we know you're also papajoe_fr because you used both usernames when you were begging someone to write a high frequency trading algorithm for you for 30 bucks. 

If anyone isn't convinced, they can look at the writing style which is identical down to the missing apostrophes. So are you saying you didn't embezzle it? Because the only explanation then would be that you're horribly incompetent.

Sorry guys , i need at least two words to describe this FAT-ASS OVER-OBESE UGLY SCAMMER:


ILLETIRATE AND PATHETIC

lol

Enjoy Ed,last days,(google have allowed me to not count the 10/100 of IP for the free days i ll allow you :)  )

papajoe_fr

?

Just one of the previous SCAM FRAUD by our ugly SCAMMER


lol

http://www.avlerchess.com/chess-misc/Ed_Trice_loses_the_plot_307808.html

Now you're straight up denying it. Cool.

Follow the bouncing ball!

http://www.freelancer.com/projects/Custom-Project-Jan.1389144.html

Notice the secondary username.

Where else do we find that username?

http://wh.macd.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&&action=printable&tid=4141

The writing styles are exactly the same, just like the subject material and petulant rage. So you're either an embezzler or an incompetent, so I think you should get a scammer tag so people know you're not to be trusted with money.

I m confirming what i said in my previous post:

THIS UGLY OVER-OBESE FAT-ASS SCAMMER NAMED ED TRICE IS PATHETIC

This seems fucking ridiculous. And I can't understand papamoi or the other guy's writing. Can someone give me a TL;DR?

It s ridiculous but try to explain that to this UGLY FAT-ASS SCAMMER

He thinks he is in a kindergarden

lol

The Amazing Ed Trice!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189953.0

lol

is it you ed trice writing here or steve wozniak,the spokeperson?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179747.msg1951773#msg1951773

LMAO

the new BITCOIN MINER OF ED TRICE POWERED BY GOOGLE ENGINEER

http://s24.postimg.org/bo8fi51px/edtricebtc.jpg

Read the comment below

lol

tldr papamoi is a notorious asshole who used to spam freelance sites begging people to do shit like code high frequency trading algorithms for him for insulting amounts like thirty dollars and then would flip his shit yelling at people for wasting his time when they tried to politely tell him no one in their right mind would do that.

He came to bitcointalk begging people to build ASICs for him for insulting amounts and people politely told him no one would and he flipped his shit some more.

Then he contacted some random dude named Ed Trice to do it. Ed Trice claimed to have a supersecret Google only ultra powerful computer but papamoi needed to buy it by Wednesday because the world would be out of RAM on Thursday.  papamoi asked the forum if it was legit. The forum said absolutely not. papamoi sent Ed Trice 50000$ anyway. When it turned out to be a scam, papamoi flipped his shit again.

That's when I heard about it and decided to remind papamoi of his shitty history (paralysed a kid waist-down by going 50 kph over the limit on a motorcycle, embezzled 50000 euro of a clients funds) and what a dumbass he is. papamoi flipped his shit some more.

tltldr: papamoi is an idiot who is bad with money and flips his shit about it which I find entertaining

That picture is a direct copy of a case that www.frozencpu.com used to carry, he just copied the picture from the website and used it as his. It is now a discontinued item.

Only one of those systems was made by me which I had to build from scratch so it came out a little different.

Yeah I guess he thinks just pulling posts out of the internet and saying that's papamoi is cleaver in his mind <shrug>

hi buckeyesXS,

Yes this is what i thought as for ED TRICE UGLY FAT ASS OVER-OVESE SCAMMER it s easy to CHEAT everyone and everything available on the internet and make people believe that he is the one who invented or created it.


Still i think the real authorities(not this FAT ASS who is trying to impersonate authorities) will be interested in all this

thanks for this

Hi ed FAT ASS SCAMMER,

 as you removed the post in linkedin, i m put it down here and i ll copy and paste later where necessary.

ENJOY IT

Here I cleaned up my quote from the last page as I don't think you saw it. I don't know if people actually saw the links so ill spell it out this time.


So he lost 50000 euros (not his) in the past and lost 50000 USD (maybe his) last month. I think a scammer tag would be prudent so people know not to do business with a two-time loser.

Well you know ED TRICE FAT ASS UGLY OVER-OBESE SCAMMER ,

I thought your mental age would be,let s be generous,around 5 years old,

but it seems too generous for you, so my new estimation is around 5 months.

Because you re like phinneas showed in the video below the kid caught lying and who is denying it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Y69p1Lx48

but still you are making us enjoy your writings and futhermore all these are followed by the authorities

You mean a victim tag?

For claiming not to be Ed Trice, you sure do care an awful lot about vilifying the person he stole $47,227 from and you never seem to mention your feelings about Ed Trice either. Interesting.

hi matt,

as i said,he thinks we are playing in a kindergarden and he is the king of the sandyard

lol

i don t know if there is any chance to improve his mental health,maybe be with the help of google who have started to invest in neurobiology and genomics ,we ll be able to help with it

Until then,we ll have to tolerate his non-sense retarded writings

 ;D

I think you guys did pretty well proving Ed Trice is fucking nuts on your own already, why do I need to add to that?

I think it's funny that the guy who gave him 50000USD is online now ranting and raving and losing his shit, yelling about obesity and talking about how his "machine" is in place and the authorities are going to totally get him for serious guys especially after his earlier bitching on bitcointalk and his previous dealings.

I'm not here to discount the insane egomaniacal ranting of ed Trice, I'm here to open eyes to the insane entitled ranting of papamoi. It's a twoforone sale on crazy and I'm not passing up on the deal of the month :p

vvvvvv see?  hilarious.

Waouw

What a stunning logic,from a retarded OVER-OBESE UGLY SCAMMER


I mean who beside ED TRICE THE GREAT SCAMMER would had this type of thoughts?

I m just really amazed by his clairvoyance(it s a french word,not latin one ,sorry UGLY SCAMMER)in english it would be clear-sightedness.

but really as Phinneas said here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189953.msg1995910#msg1995910

Without ED TRICE and his clairvoyance,Earth would stop rotating, i mean this should be clear for all of us


   

I'm not keen on anyone scamming anyone. But, you might want to take the high road and stop calling him names. Yes, he stole a large amount of money from you. Yes, he's trash as a human being. But insulting people highly, especially for their weight and appearance, doesn't make people want to be on your side.

Yep.

Hi

I understand your concern,iF i stop calling him OVER-OBESE UGLY SCAMMER ,would he return my money back ,i m not sure

I m posting here only for him anD noone else,because his body has the particularity of  showing the UGLINESS of his mind

so as i said earlier ,no offence for any one else


But as he continue to insult my mind and continue to come here playing his smart-ass, i don t see any valid reason to stop calling him who he is:

AN UGLY RETARDED OVER-OBESE FAT ASS SCAMMER

but this is adressed to him only.

hope that s clear for all you as you are the second one coming with the same sentence about the weight

btw i don t know if you have notice his RACISM ,ISLAMOPHOBIC and what else UGLINESS.....

hi guys

In case ,you have missed it:

the fake philadelphia office of LIQUID NITROGEN OVERCLOCKING


http://s1.postimg.org/b2ub30pf3/LNOFakeoffice.jpg



This is where this image was stolen from:


http://www.ecofriend.com/choosing-eco-friendly-home-elevator-smart-choice.html


Who else than ED TRICE THE UGLY FAT-ASS RETARDED OVER-OBESE SCAMMER could do that?

papamoi: I'm sorry you got scammed, i truly am.

However you should probably make a pledge to never touch any type of currency again, especially someone else's. This is financial darwinism at it's best.

thank you for your concerns but

i mean seriously?

it seems you believe his insanity?

 ::)

 :P

if this is the case,i m really sorry for you  :( as he succeeded in scamming you as well

hi guys,

i ve seen this in matthew profile(i m borrowing it matt) as it is totally corresponding to ED TRICE while he is in process of inventing a new SCAM:

http://s14.postimg.org/41vxojwzh/avatar_24749.gif



 ;D

SERIOUSLY I M SERIOUS

Any one who wants to order this 450 k servers can do it now,before the RAM price increase and without paying IP to google

please send money to ED TRICE FAT ASS OVER-OBESE UGLY SCAMMER LTD

send order by fax/email to Allison

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?locale=en_US&id=179927355&trk=tyah2

STEVE WOZNIAK the spokeperson will confirm your order and will do the follow up

and Matthew Conolly and Martin Fisk will give you all the technical details

(If Martin is not busy playing poker with me)

he is answering to the same phone and email than  me ED THE UGLY SCAMMER:

Martin Fisk
Chief of Operations
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063
 
p.s we don t accept BTC at the time as the wallet is taking too much time to syncronize


http://s10.postimg.org/544tprt89/lno450kserver.jpg

this will help you understand why ED TRICE OVER-OVESE SCAMMER LTD don t still accept BTC:

1/You ll have to read it from the bottom to up as oldest email are below
2/date are in french
3/ FYI i got never access to the so-called server,we were 3 people to wait him to give us access to it


ME:

ed,

you don t need to wait it to be synchronized

connect to any pool like50miner or else and get it done

i m waiting since almost 4 hours now

and i m not alone to waiting for it here



De : Ed Trice <ed@liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com>
À : REMOVED
Envoyé le : Lundi 8 avril 2013 20h15
Objet : Re: Login test for Bitcoinmachines

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/images/rack_of_10.jpg

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063
 
> On April 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM REMOVED wrote:
>
> do u have skype or something similar
>
> taking too long thru email
> and calls are often bad quality
>
>  
> De : Ed Trice <ed@liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com>
> À : REMOVED
> Envoyé le : Lundi 8 avril 2013 20h10
> Objet : Re: Login test for Bitcoinmachines
>
> Should have done this the night before, updating a wallet takes long!
>
> With my best regards,
>
> Ed Trice
> Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
> http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
> http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
> 610.818.5063
>  
>> On April 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM REMOVED wrote:
>>
>>
>> any updates?
>>  
>>  
>> De : Ed Trice <ed@liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com>
>> À : REMOVED
>> Envoyé le : Lundi 8 avril 2013 18h53
>> Objet : Re: Login test for Bitcoinmachines
>>
>> OK, synchronizing the 32 BitCoin wallets right now (one for each CPU core), will take a few minutes....
>>
>> With my best regards,
>>
>> Ed Trice
>> Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
>> http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
>> http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
>> 610.818.5063
>>  
>>> On April 8, 2013 at 1:38 PM REMOVED wrote:
>>>
>>> i m having it already
>>>
>>> send the login and password
>>>
>>>  
>>>  
>>> De : Ed Trice <ed@liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com>
>>> À : REMOVED
>>> Envoyé le : Lundi 8 avril 2013 18h38
>>> Objet : Re: Login test for Bitcoinmachines
>>>
>>> 1. Go to TeamViewer.com and download their free software.
>>> 2. Let me know when you have done this.
>>>
>>> With my best regards,
>>>
>>> Ed Trice
>>> Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
>>> http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
>>> http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
>>> 610.818.5063
>>>  
>>>> On April 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM REMOVED> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi
>>>> i m waiting for it
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> De : Ed Trice <ed@liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com>
>>>> À : REMOVED
>>>> Envoyé le : Lundi 8 avril 2013 14h50
>>>> Objet : Login test for Bitcoinmachines
>>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>>  
>>>> Today I would like to schedule the login test for the first machine, which we have finished building. It averages between 1435 and 1749 GH/second, depending on network connectivity to the authentication server and other factors (traffic connecting to it also).
>>>>  
>>>> It is almost 10 AM here in Pennsylvania and the box should be ready in about 3 hours.
>>>>  
>>>> Please let me know if this is OK.
>>>>
>>>> With my best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ed Trice
>>>> Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
>>>> http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
>>>> http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
>>>> 610.818.5063

The only thing i believe about this entire situation is that you're terrible with money and investment decisions. How you could not have seen this as a scam from the get go literally blows my mind.

I hope you recover your losses, but i highly doubt you will. Good luck either way.

hi

thank you for your concerns

as said previously stated ,we have started all the processes to do so

so GOD WILLING  i hope it ll get be recovered

hi guys

the email below received don 28th march 2013 where he is advising to use diesel generator and edible oil to reduce electricity cost:

 ::)


Hello everyone,
 
At this point, all parts for both systems are in house, the last of which arrived yesterday. The first system was being build as early as Tuesday of this week. A small mock-up was being built to test CUDA-capability using different video cards. As expected, the GeForce GTX Titan gives the best "single" results, and by that I mean, with little to no software coding of existing OpenSource BitMining software, it generates the greatest performance from the perspective of MegaHash/second.
 
But... we are using a simple "Group Mining" piece of software for this metric, and you expressed the desire to engage in "Solo Mining." At this point, Solo-Mining performance has been untested.
 
Just as a reminder, we are not BitCoin Mining Experts, we are Hardware Designers. But we can maximize hardware performance when given a reliable specification to follow (which we do have) and I believe we can meet or exceed the level of performance originally quoted.
 
During our "process of discovery" we have also learned a few things that will DEFINITELY optimize both performance and lower costs in the short and long term. I will summarize them briefly (and these are currently ALL out of spec for the existing scope of the project. That in no way deters you from engaging in these recommendations with outside consultants or in-house staff. Indeed, these recommendations are provided for free. I would be remiss if I did not disclose them to you once I have learned of them).
 
1. Cost minimization. Obviously, electricity is the single greatest long-term cost for the project. That being said, there is a way to get "free" power. Use a Diesel Generator to provide the electricity, and power the Diesel Generator with vegetable oil instead of Diesel Fuel. What is not widely known is that vegetable oil warmed to 80 degrees Fahrenheit has the identical viscosity of gasoline, and it will likewise auto-combust in a high-compression diesel engine, just like diesel fuel will. There are no spark plugs in a diesel engine. The fuel will combust on its own under enough pressure. So will vegetable oil. For a more complete explanation, see GreaseCar.com where kits are installed in BMW and Mercedes Benz cars that allow them to run under used vegetable oil. Go to any Chinese Restaurant or McDonalds, offer to take away their used frying oil, filter it, and you have a lifetime supply of fuel for a diesel generator.
 
2. Performance maximization. The Titan video card has 2668 CUDA cores and it crushes just about everything else out there. However, it is still not the best crunching-per-dollar, but that does not matter. You can cram 4 of them into a Workstation motherboard, overclock the CPU as well as the GPUs, and get a per-node performance number that should easily defeat the fictitious performance offered by Butterfly Labs (nobody we have contacted has one of their devices, and they are now claiming it takes up to one year to get one). The current issue we are facing: The Titan is so new that no software that is available at present seems to leverage all of their cores. In fact, most off-the-shelf OpenSource cannot keep your 6-core x 5.0 GHz Intel i7-3770 mockup more than 12% busy at any given time. Furthermore, nocturnal "mining pool" numbers go down drastically (using East Coast time zone as a reference) and this is presently not well understood. It seems there is some sort of authentication/verification process that goes on to "synchronize all blocks" that are being worked on, and there is no escaping this centralizing task. We are experimenting with minimizing this effect by synching up the "BitCoin Wallet" we have set up every 12 hours, or every 8 hours during heavy mining success periods. This seems to improve the daily hash/second metric, but we don't have enough information to determine if some other factors are contributing to this. We are trying to compile our own version of the OpenSource software to leverage more CUDA cores (as our Google rep was able to do when he was onsite, but these guys are friggin' geniuses) but so far this out-of-scope deliverable has not met with success either. Our recommendation is to contact a local software guru while we spend most of our effort tweaking the hardware, and see if he can get the software to 100% utilization. I can say this: even at 12%, the system is crushing some of the non-Butterfly Labs numbers I have seen.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

Received on 29 th of march:

Read the google rep part ,very interesting:


Thanks for your replies; good information below.
 
As for the % utilization with the CPU: I understand GPU is much much > than CPU in terms of mining results, but my point was, if the CPU is being underutilized and it is "not nearly as massively parallel" as the GPU, then how much more underutilized is the 2668-core GPU?
 
I don't have a "Task Manager" equivalent for the GPU: Is there some software tool out there that shows the core utilization % of the GPU(s)?
 
Right now a pair of CUDA cards @ $1000 each is not doubling what a single card can hash, which I am sure is a function of the OpenSource software that we are using. When you double the core count, you should double the performance, if you distribute the load evenly and there is enough work being given to the "miners."
 
I have a call into our on-site Google rep who was here, and I can offer him a "consulting gig," but at this point, I am not sure what he will say.
 
We are continuing to build the water cooling for the CUDA cards so we can overclock them and make them even faster. I am researching more on the BitMining project stuff. If you have a solo BitMiner that you want us to use, let us know right away, so I can get familiar with that piece of software as well.
 
It looks like, at this point, the hardware will really crunch once it can be given enough work to do. Usually the system runs "hot" when it is crunching away, and the numbers I have seen so far indicate that the 10%-12% utilization is probably "across the board" and indicative of the GPU utilization as well. Once we figure out how to parallelize the code better, these numbers should rise drastically.
 
All of my performance numbers go through the rough when I run other video card benchmarks, such as Cinebench or Heaven.


With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

and the 5th of april,
as i wasnt getting any replies:

email was bounced back


Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     liquidnitrogenoverclocking@hushmail.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
***** tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain hushmail.com by mx2.hushmail.com. [65.39.178.134].

The error that the other server returned was:
552 The mailbox belonging to <liquidnitrogenoverclocking@hushmail.com> is full.

----- Original message -----


Subject: Re: updates on the two bitcoin mining server

9th of april:

i ve sent this email:

Hi ed

we are  still waiting you since yesterday afternoon

so could you reply us with an update?

thanks




p.s:this was after having waited him 4/5 hours the 8th of april,to log in to the so called server.


never got replied....

another email:

ed,
your phone is off,i did send you three emails since yesterday and without any replies

can i know what is going on there?

are you able to deliver these servers at the expected hashing power or not?

please reply with a yes or no as we are loosing time and money here

thanks



no replies either

sent 10th of april:



48 hours have passed since you promise the delivery and proof of a high speed hashing computer  working on bitcoin mining @ 1760 gigahash per second .Servers for wich we have paid you 47220 usd we have sent to your delaware account .

The strange thing is that during our conversation:

-you have clained that servers are running at the said speed without giving any proofs of it.
-we are wednesday 6h41 am in (gmt+1) and you have given us an online meeting monday evening at 6 pm gmt+1 time ,and to get access to the servers,and this never happenned.
-when i ve called you yesterday,you never pick up my calls(it seems you can see on you cell who is calling) and when i was able to get access to a phone with us id,you called me back and seems still not want me to see these servers.
-you hang up when i ve tried to get explanation on this

-in the mean time sent you emails , and got never replied to it

-when during my phone call,i ve talked about 50miner software,you told me you never heard about it,the strange thing is you so called employee matthew conolly have sent us a screenshot in march showing this software running in one of the said tests you seems to have done

-I would like just to remember you here that as per our discussion,we have ordered you this server(you claim to have been engineered by google)because you claim that it was having a hashing power of 1775gigahash on bitcoin mining.

-we trusted you and until today 10 of april 2013,we ve never got a proof of these servers after payment of 47220 usd sent to your account in 19th of march 2013 from our xxxxxxxxx

-As it seems,clear now that you are not able to deliver these servers as per their requirements.As per the contract,we are agreed on,

i am asking you to refund the amount of 47220 usd i ve sent to you in payment for these servers

Here is the company bank account:

our account number



Waiting impatiently for it

just for your knowledge,i am attaching the screencopy sent by the said matthew conolly about the 50 miner software,wich was sent in march and proving that you knew very well about this software already before i ve sent you the amount for paying the servers.

p.s:this is just the fourth email, i m sending you since monday,as i didn t get any replies asking the whereabout of my servers.

got this one the 10 th of april:

Interesting piece of BS:

After another day of investigation, I now believe you are 100% correct. My apologies.
 
Somehow our solo mining operation is being treated as a pool by the server we connect with despite the fact we have a 24-hour average of 1638 GHash/second.
 
There is not much I can do about the GHash fluctuations. Our peak is 1946 GHash and our low looks to be about 1082 GHash/second by the log files.
There are a few factors that cause this dip.
 
1. The network connection.
2. The amount of work being offloaded to the machines.
3. The synchroniztion of all of the miners as new ones are added.
 
I can work on 1) and see if our Ethernet 10 Gigabit Solarflare cards are experiencing jitter.
There is nothing I can do about 2) if the network doesn't assign us enough work to do. We are at their mercy and there is no way around it.
And 3) is just something that causes everyone's hash rate to fluctuate, so you will not be missing out on any opportunities.
 
We will be installing new network cards today to try and stabilize the network connection on our end and see if that helps.

With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

Another reply the same day ,while i ve replied with my doubt about his BS:

You are a very disagreeable and argumentative person. What I said is true, and no amount of your telling me it is not true is going to change anything.
 
You are arrogant and it is getting progressively more difficult to work with you.
 
I am going to say something here:
 
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE SAME EXACT HASH RATE OVER 24 HOURS ON TWO CONSECUTIVE DAYS.
 
Period, end of statement, it is a 100% fact of life, and I won't listen to any more of your talk about why we don't get exactly 1760 time and time again.
 
The hash rate is not solely determined by the hardware. If you do not RECEIVE WORK from the server, your hash rate = 0.
If your connection wavers, you end up with a stale block, and your net work on that particular portion of a block will be wasted time, unknown by you at the time.
All of the network complexity can affect your functional GHash/second rating.
 
It has a peak, a low, and an average.
 
The peak was 1946 GHash, as reported. This number is RETURNED BY THE SERVER not invented by me, so get off my back.
The low was 1082 when the verification server was reporting connection errors. During this momentary offline status, their website was offline too, so I know it was an issue with them and not us.
 
The 24 hour average seems to be 1638 GHash/second.
 
Give me your BitCoin account and I will send the bitcoins to you.


With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

Of course,

i ve sent him my btc adresse,never got anything fom this FAT ASS OVER-OBESE UGLY SCAMMER

And no answer since
then 13th of april:

We switched to Windows 7 x64 and updated the drivers. Our internal network was slowing down the rate at which blocks were sent to us to work on so we have it being hosted outside our network in another location. Seems to have improved significantly, much more steady rates, fewer disconnects, fewer dips in the production curve.


With my best regards,

Ed Trice
Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking
http://www.worldsfastestcomputers.com
http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com
610.818.5063

an then another promising me delivery for monday......


and after that.....

ED TRICE FAT ASS OVER-OBESE SCAMMER WAS DISCOVERED

ANOTHER BS FROM THE FAT ASS OVEROBESE SCAMMER ED TRICE:

http://s2.postimg.org/m2ccadx5l/anotheredtricebs.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/asnsrcykx/anotherbs.jpg


I m sure quantacool will appreciate to be a partner of this SCAMMER

You might want to stop posting stuff here about him unless it is new information that can actually leverage you with him to get your money back.

If I was a scammer and I read post after post after post about how fat I was and how unhappy you were I would be quite happy.  Why?  Because I could point to it and say "This guy is a nut.  He thinks he gave me money (or he bought a product and like a crazy person, did not know how to use it and blames me now".

Instead, trace his assets.  Hit him where it hurts.  Most of these psychos have lots of little scams, crimes and what not going on and use their "legitimate" business to hide them.  Find those scams.  Find his undeclared money.  Find people who deal with him IRL and talk to them.  Don't talk to them like an angry person who got ripped off though, talk to them like a professional person who is just "doing business".

Also, If I were I scammer, I would read all this and say to myself "I bet this guy has another $5k to spend on someone who will help him get his money back" and then I would find a way to take $5k from you and seeing how fast you gave up more than that and how angry you are I am guessing it would be pretty easy to rip you off again.

Having done asset location and recovery work before, I can tell you that no one gets a cent until what is owed is recovered and no one can legitimately recover assets unless their is a court judgment against someone.  So if I said to you "Pay me a retainer and then I will get your money back" then you would likely never see your retainer fee again either.

Sue this person.  Stop posting stuff here.  Get a judgment against him, then the Asset recovery people will find you.

(and no, I won't help you)

hi tcollar,

the process have already started and it s taking time,i can t talk more about here but in the meantime , i ll continue to post every interesting information i can get on this UGLY FAT ASS OVER-OBESE SCAMMER ,here is his last linkedin post :


http://s11.postimg.org/aej5uzglf/tricelinkedin05052013.jpg


You can notice how this UGLY FAT ASS BASTARD trying to show himself as an honest person,

being exorted by me(lol)

P.s:i don t really need your help,but thank you for not proposing it ,lol

hi guys,

it seems the philly cop and the authorities has gone on vacation

lol


Strange isnt it?

hi

just push up and


http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Liquid-Nitrogen-overclocking-Inc/delaware-Delaware-DE-19808-1/Liquid-Nitrogen-overclocking-Inc-Ed-Trice-SCAMMING-ON-BITCOIN-MINING-SERVER-delaware-Dela-1050107

https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/81

Same Shang Tsung anyone hahaha :P Nice try man...

Andy B

As bad as I feel for you papamoi, for an outsider this is absolutely hilarious. Genuinely hope you get your money back. One would think the amount of evidence of his blatant scams highlighted in this thread would be enough to put him away.

Also I found this on Ed Trice which is quite amusing: http://www.chess.com/article/view/labate-sues-trice-for-212-million

I'm almost tired of adding scammers to Coin Canary.... :-\

At least they are all bad at at, and most of us are technical people that spot this crap easily.

Sorry to give this one a bump, Mr Ed and Matt Reynolds are at it again. Yes this was 2 months ago but it's interesting none the less.

Over on LinkedIn where Ed is still active I found this today.

To high light the important part I copied the text here.


On the inside it now looks more like this:

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/images/new_design.jpg

 Almost everything you see there is custom measured, made, mounted, and tuned for the performance and heat load of the individual processor.

 It takes a fair amount of effort to build an elegant overclocked system that will withstand the test of time, and that is just not part of Intel's core focus right now.

Now if you take the image from that link and run it through google you will find it actually belongs to a build done over at bit-tech called the Twister Mod done by twister7800gtx

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=224731

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3626/37mb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/37mb.jpg/)

and the actual picture he is claiming is a LNO computer

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9808/79y3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/79y3.jpg/)

Yeah these two scumbags are completely full of it.

Matt's Linkedin -

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/matt-reynolds/15/189/317

Matt's scammy looking stock trading business -

http://www.derivativeconceptsinc.com/index.htm (with a web page that looks straight out of 1999)

I don't think he has direct involvement with Ed Trice's scams, but evidently knows absolutely nothing about computers or overclocking judging that post

Matt said that when contacted but yet he still posts for LNO <shrug>

Isn't 5.0ghz a little slow/outdated for the overclocking world?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-i7-4770K-Overclock-Haswell,22410.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-i7-4770K-Overclock-Haswell,22410.html)

That's pretty good. He just beat my friend Mad222 by a little bit LOL

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2829681

I know John Lam is also high up there, such competition these days :)

Of course all these were done on LN2

Plus that's an ES chip. It's know that ES chips are OCing much better than retails at this time.

Really, Ed Trice's "business" is the only outdated thing here. If it were real it might have made a splash in the overclocking community 10 years ago, but there isn't much benefit to such a degree of cooling for every day use since you can just buy a 3 Ghz processor that will probably never be used at its full potential anyway, running happily with a standard air cooler.

There was a time when processors (P4 *cough*) ran so hot that liquid or nitrogen cooling was basically required for a high overclock. But these days processors are a lot more power efficient and cast off a lot less heat than their earlier generations. One can OC many of them to a high degree without anything more than the stock cooler that came with the processor. For all the complexity and expense of this supercooling your benefits nowadays are nil.

Interesting.... just received a phone call from Delaware Title Loan (This is an auto loan company) asking for me.

I said how can I help you ?

Do you know a Mr. Ed Trice ?
Yes how can I help you ?
Mr. Trice put down in his loan paper work that we could call you if we are having trouble contacting Mr. Trice...
I left Mr. Ed's company almost a year ago and have had no contact with him in almost a year, how ever old clients, attorneys and other people he has scammed have been contacting me ...

Oh really !!!!

Maybe Mr. Ed hasn't made his Red Viper car payments and has gone AWOL.... REPO time :)

Why is he using me as a contact in loan documents ????

hi buckeyes

it seems a never ending story with this bastard

Hey there papamoi, I hope all is going well for you.

Yes another day and out of the blue I get a phone call from some one about Mr. Ed

Kind of explains things, quick cash loan using the Red Viper




Delaware Title Loans, Inc. offers car title loan for your short-term title loan borrowing needs! It doesn’t matter what kind of vehicle you own -- Delaware Title Loans, Inc. has a title loan that fits your needs.

 It’s today’s fastest and easiest way to take care of all your unexpected cash needs. If you own your vehicle, you can get a title loan based on its value. In other words, if you drive in to one of our loan centers today, you can drive away with the cash you need. You can now get approved faster than ever with our online application "Quick Form".

 We never check credit scores -- they don’t matter to us! Our network of loan centers is conveniently located throughout Delaware, so there’s always a Delaware Title Loans, Inc. location near you. Our customer service sets us apart from the pack, so come experience the difference!

 Simply fill out and submit our simple "Quick Delaware Title Loan Form", and one of our courteous Delaware Title Loans, Inc. representatives will call you right back!

And yet another person who Ed owes money to calls today.

hi guys

read the first post here:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Liquid-Nitrogen-Overclocking/162356203779679

apparently he is still out and scamming

Yeah that's the same machine that was built here in Stockton by the guy who took my spot. It was a one off and damaged in shipping pretty bad, they didn't listen to me on how to ship it. This machine can not really be made anymore.

The picture he uses was taken at my place before Ed and this other guy shipped it. Ed purchased it from this other guy.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHA

No doubt.  The only thing worse than a braggart is a lying braggart.   :P

he is not able to pay a loan of his own car how would he be able to pay a single employee without scamming?

http://uppix.com/f-op5213eac90013b8c4.png

Does that need any comment, really ?

Here it is sitting on my desk, same picture he uses but cropped out.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7195/v74p.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/v74p.jpg/)

He would not listen to me about how to ship this. When he got it the water cooled GPU's took a hard hit in shipping and busted up the lower PCIe slot. He frankensteined it by redoing the whole tubing layout which he never got right, one GPU had to go as there was no slot for it.

He brought this rig with him to New York when we did the install there and was running it in his hotel room. Almost no water flow in the system and it was full of air making the green water look like a slushy. Temps were getting pretty high in the 90c range running his prime number stuff.

I really don't think this machine is running anymore but who knows. Point is it was a one off made by a modder that no one would buy it so Ed picked it up. Reason I had this at my place was the modder could not overclock a 2700K to 5.0ghz so I was asked to do it, pretty simple stuff really.

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/7410/hvw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/hvw4.jpg/)

hi

i can t find this bastard company facebook page

did he deleted it or did he blocked me on it?

if someone can try

thanks

Have they shipped?

another of his lies:

he claims this is his swimming pool and his home on his fb:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151494086961415&set=a.10151112272351415.433274.679296414&type=1&theater

this is the reality:


http://masterpoolsguild.web12.hubspot.com/Portals/167613/docs/news_nespa_creativemasterpools.pdf?__hstc=174843261.47ed6adccb4cfb10a1e1acbb45525beb.1387376236093.1387376236093.1387376236093.1&__hssc=174843261.1.1387376236094&__hsfp=2831756273

and this bastard is still out

Slit the fat piece of shits throat like a pig and fill his fake pool with his real blood

another fake award he created himself to give to himself:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151616890771415&set=pb.679296414.-2207520000.1387376590.&type=3&theater

click on the link,near the picture


lol

Wow what a fucking loser

Just a heads up to everyone that, while http://liquidnitrogenoverclocking.com/ is down, Ed Trice has moved his operations to the following URL:

http://lightningcloudcomputing.com/

Since this is an Ed Trice operation, there is a good chance anyone ordering something there will be delivered nothing and will lose all of their money.

so did OP ever get his money back?

cant believe this ed fat fuck is still going.

Hi everyone. I am hoping someone will reply. So i was solicited for an investment into a bitcoin minting company. Someone claiming they have the only permit to mint. That he can only pay using a business to business relationship to for the first 1000 coin runs......until we s-corp and are granted a permine
permanent license. Well i look up the website for the email address hes sending from and the website lightningcloudcomputing.com
com isnt even finished, pretty mediocre.i googled for a physical location, nothing. The phone number is disconnected. The website registration just shows 1 for 1 and only registered this year. Also he states there are 4 locations. None of which i can find a physical address for.  Then i look on LinkedIn and i find the only profile with the exectutive director, Ed Trice. So i google his name.....and i find this site. Im starting to believe the name he is giving me is an alias. He seems educated but hes a fast talker and has all of the right answers to my questions...anything sould familiar?

Hi Miabella02

Yup, read the whole thread and decided if you wish to business with this guy. It's pretty clear what will happen if you do.

Everything you have said that he told you can be found in this thread as not true and a lie.

Its hard for me to believe that he is still around trying to pull this stuff, and a new fake website up.

Did he contact you to invest in this scam company ?

Sadly I've found some people like getting scammed and they get mad if you stop them, something about greed and masochism. There was a guy on eBay selling shares of the nitrogen miner and he got pissed when I warned him.

nitrogen miner ?

Never heard of that one, was this another Trice scam ?

Still have a link to that one ?

I thought it was what op was talking about. There was a liquid nitrogen miner.

Having a vat of nitrogen in one's home is always a good idea. Never know when you may want to lessen the amount of oxygen in a room after enjoyin' a couple doobies.

here is a link to his current craigslist posting in philly:

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/fns/4677256364.html