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Hallo bitcoiners,

I would like to show you our newest project where you can order all amazon products with bitcoins.

It works for amazon.com , amazon.co.uk and amazon.de

Visit the site www.all4btc.com and fill the ASIN (amazon standart identification number) into the ASIN field.

Or use our google chrome application , than you can use the "buy with bitcoin" button directly on the amazon website.

http://all4btc.com/bitcoin-chrome-extension/

We take a very small commision which is much cheaper than exchange first and wait for your money...

You can use the fastest, most established and cheapest sellers on amazon without waiting for euros.

We are hoping for some feedbacks

regards

all4btc.com team

Hello,

I've used this service to order something from amazon.de.
Shipping was as fast as if I order direct from amazon.

But there was some problem, the order worked only on the 3rd try (I got a message: server error :/),
but then it worked and I got redirected to bitpay.

It would be really nice to get some email confirmation after the order, because right now there is nothing,
you end up on bitpay invoice and if that is payed that is your confirmation more or less.
Just a email, thanks your order for item xyz was placed, or something would be better.
And even more awesome would it be to receive the tracking number later :)

But I am happy and will probably use it again ;)

After Bitspend suspended its activities and Bitsumo has problems with EU orders, i tried all4btc on Wednesday.

First of all you cant use the site with NoScript, when i disabled it completely, my order yielded the following result:
https://i.imgur.com/SGJB9yF.png?1

I informed the guys they should have a look at their code.
When looking back i should have ordered it 5 times and await my delivery since they dont have any ToS.

Thursday morning the error was solved and i placed my order.
Never received an email or any kind of confirmation.

Yesterday around 5pm CET they contacted me demanding another 10€ for shipping, even though the product is clearly labeled as free shipping.

Following that i asked for a refund, which im waiting for until now.

Summarized: Scam with a poorly coded site and unprofessional support!!!

Dear Gentleman,


this is just not fair! Why are you blaming us that we are a scam? We refunded you every little satoshi! And you write stuff like that here in the forum.

We want to make a statement here:

1. You switched your javascript off, so that the programm couldn't work properly on your computer. We had several orders around the same time, so that was not our fault. And we processed all of the orders without any problems.

2. You contacted our support at 10pm (our office is closing at 6pm) and we wanted to help you, so we kept on writing with you until late, AGAIN only to offer you a good service. (Of course our programmer was not around at that time so that we could answer everything. We appologized for that many times)

3. You told us, that it is shipping free. We tried to order your product in any way possible and the result was 7.99€ shipping and 1.5€ insurance. We can do screen shots of the fact. What do you want us to do, just give you the 7.99€ as a present? What would you do if you were us?

That really sucks, we worked really hard the last half year to make all our costumers happy, we invested so much time and passion and now people like you try to ruin it.


bitcoinsberlin

Does this website work?

https://i.imgur.com/y2V3vFG.png

Introducing the all4btc app for Hive (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304060.0;all).

Please note: as with Hive itself (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304060.0;all), this should be handled with great care and at the moment we do not recommend it for any kind of day-to-day use.

The latest releases will be made available here:
https://github.com/grabhive/hiveapp-all4btc/releases

Issues can be tracked here:
https://github.com/grabhive/hiveapp-all4btc/issues

Any review ?

Also wanted to know

I'm gonna fucking take one for the team I guess. If I don't reply here in the next few days, someone reply so I see it to reply to it.

I'm placing an order now.

I really don't like that they make you pay before they even get the link. I don't think I'm gonna do it.

I'm still thinking about it though.

Ordered something from Amazon on Thursday Oct. 31. before our bank holiday on friday, therefore a long weekend!

Status by now is "payment confirmed" + "order confirmed", waiting for the next step "Forward Amazon order eMail"

I'll keep this updated

The status of my order wasn't updated yet, but i received it today in the late afternoon!

Really ? You paid for this service knowing you could never get anything ?

Hi guys,

you pay in advance, so you gonna trust the merchant or not.

We fulfilled almost 50 orders within the last week. Let us know, If there is something missing.
Everyday 10am-6pm we are busy to make it happen.

Btw, this is our new office
https://bitcoinsberlin.com/en/about-the-berlin-office-co-working-space-and-offline-store/

and we host bitcoin meetups, as well.
http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Startups-Berlin/

Ask anything info at all4btc dot com or give us a call.

Best regards from Berlin,
Jan

Yes i did  :P

Like all the ppl that paid BFL for some hardware to be shipped in the future  ;D ;D ;D ;D...difference is, i gave it a try with a very small amount of BTC and i got my stuff in time  ;)

BTW, i had some problems ordering 2 pieces at once from amazon, so i ended up ordering just 1

EDIT:

Would be nice if theres a way to get an invoice in case of warrant!

Just wanted to vouch this, just ordered don't starve through them (via humble bundle store)

Could be get a reputable members review?

I know I'm not reputable here, but either way. It worked for me:) I think it was posted on reddit and people vouched for it there because thats where I think I head about it

It took about 12 hours but that was a custom order that I placed at midnight in the UK (so about midnight in germany)

Thank you for that!

watching.

The site is down -- I hope you're not being DDOS'ed.

Does anyone know what's going on?

Tried to buy a Black-Friday item - all4btc was too slow - after several hours, they still hadn't purchased the item so I missed out on the deal. Emailed and asked for a refund. No response.

Edit - they finally refunded after two days.

OK, they're not responding via e-mail, maybe this will get some visibility.

I paid for an item on all4btc thursday night and paid right away. The payment went through, but it still hasn't been fulfilled. The service fee on my item is around $150 US (it's a BTC3 item). It's been three days. You need to have better response time. Not cool.

I can't believe that people actually sent bitcoins to these people after this response was posted.

If you want something, it's worth figuring out how to actually get it. In no case ever is it a good idea to take the lazy way out and hope that some non-established, unverifiable route (especially one marked by the sheer incompetence displayed above) will work out. You're not just losing your coins, you're contributing to the stupidification of the marketplace.

Yeah, feeling kinda stupid now.   >:(

What is the exact  commission price? It doesnt say in the OP.

What is the "Other" for?

Your google chrome extension link isn't working.

I think this is the link. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/buy-with-bitcoin/cojpifopaaneikgfobjnekpfmpkiekff (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/buy-with-bitcoin/cojpifopaaneikgfobjnekpfmpkiekff)

They finally responded four days later, asking for the invoice, and after another day, claimed that:


It has now been a week. I've messaged them again, with no response for three days. Not professional, guys.

Not great etiquette but... you guys could just go to giftcardbtc.com (http://giftcardbtc.com) and get giftcards and buy whatever you want yourselves ;)  they probably have better rates, but getting giftcards would completely reduce the friction of the process...

It has now been almost two weeks, and they have not responded again. I've sent them several emails, including one with an amazon link for the same product. At this point I'm pretty sure I've been scammed out of BTC3.

I wouldn't say it's a scam yet, I think they are simply overloaded with orders during December. There are several BTC's of mine pending there for a few weeks, I'm giving these guys some more time.
I think they are doing great service for community, just the system might be a bit uprepared for such demand and customer service. So far I was very happy with my successful orders, and I believe they will push up soon.

Well add me to the list of folks who can't get a response out of them.  I have two orders that I can't seem to get any action on.  One I suspect they simply screwed up and ordered one item for me when I specified that they should order 2.  The other one...no earthly idea what's going on because no one will get back to me.

First order should have arrived with two of the item but only one was shipped.  Second order...who the hell knows.

https://all4btc.com/invoice?id=RtLoHoSiDRULwFnZy9pSuN

https://all4btc.com/invoice?id=16AAZsWnpmPEzqWyyM8zSv

I've sent emails, left a voicemail message and I'm nearing the end of my rope on this.  It's been over three weeks since I've ordered these things on behalf of a small company and I'm totally in the dark.

A lot of other stuff was ordered and plenty of money was spent at all4btc.  I was absolutely ready to expect that there may have been a mistake or two given the busy holiday season and the language barrier that existed but this is beyond ridiculous.  This mistake or two should have been met with quick and meaningful communication but the BEST I've gotten so far is a response on Dec' 22nd saying that they remember the second order being processed but they'll look into it...after that, nadda.

Kind of a major piss off.  So, I'll be using BitSumo now if I need a go-between for purchases.  Much more responsive and helpful.

Guys dont fall for them. Made 1btc order in november when btc was 1k. Took 1-2 weeks just to get them to say it was shipped. It's January and I still didnt receive anything. They will send you pretty pictures at some point photoshopped with your name as if the product was shipped. You will wait for nothing, don't fall for it.

Sad to read so many problems, I used them a few times last year without problem  :'(

Well, they finally got back to me after I sent them email after email after email and contacted BitPay to see if there was anything they could do.  Turns out BitPay has a compliance dept' that says they'll look into it so that's happening.

So they are going to refund the one order because they weren't able to complete it.  It took them a month and a week to tell me that one of the orders just didn't take.  WOW!  Anyhow, gave them an address to refund BTC to 14.5 hours ago and nothing showing up yet.

No word on the other order.  Still slamming my head against the wall on that one.

I have been trying to contact them for days now and not heard anything from them at all.

I have been emailing and phoning them every day during there business hours and have never yet had a reply or even had anyone answer the phone. It is becoming a joke and i regret ordering from them. If they do not get back to me soon I will be looking at options to recover my BTC back from them.

DO NOT ORDER FROM THESE EVER

So, Jan 14th and finally this issue has been resolved for me.  I contacted everyone I could think of including sending an email to every single email address I could find for Bitcoins Berlin.  I even contacted BitPay and FYI folks, they have a compliance department that does take an active interest in merchants that treat their customers so badly.  BitPay can't control a merchant for you or deal with trivial disputes but if a merchant is simply not communicating with you, it may be worth talking to BitPay.

Now, I initially received a partial refund that didn't correspond with the amounts I sent for the orders even though the price of Bitcoin had gone DOWN from when I had ordered the items I ordered; so that didn't make a whole lot of sense.  On Jan' 10th, I was offered a refund for one of the two orders.  I was asked for a Bitcoin address to send refunds for two orders.  I was later asked for my bank details but pretty much ignored that seeing as I had been promised Bitcoin.  One refund was correct and the second, for some inexplicable reason was 0.12 BTC out of a total 0.2248 I had sent them.  I requested the remaining 0.1048 on Jan 11th and for what reason, I have no idea, had to wait until today (the 14th) to get the remainder owed to me.

In fact, when I emailed them most recently to ask them about the remaining 0.1048 BTC, the response I got...verbatim, was "tomorrow!"

Seriously, just the one word with the exclamation point.  I'm the one that's been left in the lurch for over a month and they get pissy that I'm asking where the remainder of my promised refund is?

So, the good news here is that everything was resolved.  I was given my BTC back for orders I did not receive and I actually did end up receiving a lot of merchandise without any trouble.  That said, I won't ever use all4btc again and will even be leery of any project associated with Bitcoins Berlin.  It seems that they have terrible resource management and have no idea how to deal with growth.  This experience actually really worries me in respect to Bitoin focused startups in Berlin.  If they go to the Bitcoins Berlin incubator, will the projects become as bad as their own project, all4btc?

The orders I was refunded for, I sent through BitSumo.  Service was quick, responsive and informative.  I got tracking information as soon as it was available and there were no silly complications.

My orders started to move. I guess it was just a holiday period.
Sometimes these guys may be slow and erratic, but definitely not scammers.

We normally wouldn't post in a thread like this but we believe that the ability to buy more stuff with BTC is one of the major keys to Bitcoin's continued success, and considering all the issues being experienced here, it's only right to make you all aware of our proxy payment/purchasing service at Coinsfer.com (http://coinsfer.com/). We just launched a number of new "2.0" services with a new thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417547.0). We've had a number of clients since launching in December and they have been very happy with the service received. Feel free to post in the thread, PM me, or contact via the website with any questions.

After more than 30 days, I still have not received my item. The last correspondence I got was two weeks ago and gave no explanation, just:

>Hallo,
>
>it will be processed tomorrow again. Or we will refund you.
>
>regards

They have not responded to my e-mails and have not issued a refund. I've contacted BitPay also.

DO NOT ORDER FROM THESE GUYS.

My quicky review of all4btc: pretty sure they're not a scam. I got a 560 Ti for my computer (what else would it be for?) and within like 6 hours I got an Ebay order email. I shall update this post when/if I get the card!

Update: I contacted BitPay after being ignored or brushed off, or whatever you want to call it. They offered to reach out through their compliance department, and this morning there was a refund waiting in my wallet. No wait, a partial refund. They kept 0.0693 BTC, about $69 USD at today's exchange rate. Unfuckingbelievable. I'm glad some people are having success with this company, but based on the abysmal level of service I've received from all4btc, I cannot recommend them to anyone. STAY AWAY. There are lots of other competitors, and they can't ALL be this bad.

If any of you are looking for electronics we would love to treat you better.

We can even respond to emails in less than two weeks ;D

Final update: after asking bitpay to (again) lean on all4btc, they finally coughed up the balance. No e-mail, no apology, no excuses -- nothing. It took nearly 2 months for them to refund me money, and they never even explained why they were unable to fulfill my order. Amateurs.

Click the Trust: link in the OP's info panel... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=106182

There is only one positive rating there... No negative. Thoose who have had issues, should add some trust.

I have paid for 2 jackets from ebay using your service (via chrome extension) and did not receive the jackets. I contacted the ebay sellers and asked if they could check to see if it has been shipped.

the reply from one was


the second jacket I ordered got back in touch and after a lengthy discussion and lots of searching replied with

I have sent a number of emails to your support email address and have yet to receive a reply.

[edit - update 13th Febuary 2014] a hdd reader I had paid for earlier that I had received a scan/image of a confirmation sheet has also not been delivered. Upon contact with the ebay seller and a lengthy discussion.

[edit - update 16th Febuary 2014] hdd reader arrived last night and I also recieved a reply on twitter from BitcoinsBerlin

You might be best trying their parent company - https://bitcoinsberlin.com/en/

I have heard nothing but negative reviews lately but AFAIK their service is legit they just need to desperately improve communication.

Better communication would be good, Currently I am guessing people just feel ignored. Myself included.

The Hive all4btc app has stopped working due to 404s on the API.

Has your API moved? Can you update us, please?

Removed the app all4btc from Hive App Registry until we hear back from the all4btc team regarding their current API status.

how do i know how long is the expected shipping-time?

Definitely send them an email prior to purchasing. Plenty in this thread have been waiting over a month with no response

Hello, to find out your shipping details you can write us an email at support@all4btc.com or use the support field in your invoice form and we'll get back to you there. You can always call us during Berlin business hours at +49 (0) 30 269 489 30. Usually shipping details are sent after we process your order, depending on the seller.

Sorry for any inconvenience, we have listened to our customers and learned a lot, especially after the overwhelming popularity of our service in November and December. We completely reworked the back end of the site and have implemented new features to streamline the customer communication directly into the order processing, so that buyers can get quick and easy updates on their orders.

If anybody else has any questions about our service or need an update, just ask us here, via email, or give us a call.

Best regards,
Philip from All4Btc
https://all4btc.com (https://all4btc.com)

Hey HiveWallet!

We did recently again moved everything around after a few large updates. We'd love to be back in such a beautiful wallet app! Write me an email at info@all4btc.com.

So it's still working ?

Please post feedback if you use the service.

I've successfully received dozens of orders since December. Some of them quite expensive. Right now I'm unpacking my last shipment.
It seems that previously they had some problems of managing the amount of customers. So few human errors, may take time etc, but they are always helpful and things are resolved at the end.

Made me very happy.

P.S. For the people who order $20 of things and then expect amazon-like speed - get real, it's still a small company of Bitcoin enthusiasts, they do orders by hand and face obstacles on the way. If you think it's easy - start your own service, there's a demand.

Can we trust this service? I see some very bad reviews.. some good.. I don't know what to do.

Hi dixxy,

we fulfilled > 2500 orders and we offer 100 % good delivery or money back garantuee.

All complaints or refunds have been cleared and every day we order from big merchant e.g. Amazon and eBay for bitcoin user only.

True that we had some communication problems in the fast, the main problem was the high demand and order volume which was though to handle.

Since we upgraded our system including order status, email notification within a support ticket system we keep our customer in the loop every business day.

Let us know when somethings does not work out, we are here to make you happy :)

Your all4btc team

I had to change my laptop while travelling Europe. Bought a laptop for 1400 euros on Amazon via all4btc.

The process took a little bit more time than I expected since they had to wait for SEPA transfer before processing my order. Meanwhile, I had to move from Germany to France and had to contact their support. They provided very good online and phone support in both english and german. The whole process including delivery took 8 days which I still find pretty good. It is much faster and slighlty cheaper to buy directly from Amazon but they don't accept Bitcoin...

My only disapointement is that they don't have the bankroll for large purchasse and this cause processing delay... However, I am very satisfied by their service and got a killer laptop.

Thank you!


EDIT: The website has insuficient privacy protection and some security flaw in my opinion. The problem is that once an order get confirmed you get a link that contains purchasse, order status and personnal information. This page is unprotected and any observing adversary get the name and delivery address by simply visiting that link. This page also let you contact support directly and show previous support message history. It could then be possible to change the delivery address since there is no verification that the support request is made from the legitimate buyer. Support message forwarding to email is optional and not enabled by default making this attack trivial. If email forwarding has been enabled then you can simply call them directly. I asked to a german speaking friend to call for me to change delivery address but it could have been a social engineering attack as well. Security should be increased.

Dear 01BTC10,

thanks for your honest review, it is a pleasure to do business with bitcoin users like you.

We are an very international team and have customers from all around Europe.
Our support speaks more than seven languages, feel free do send support messages using your local voice.

Regarding the critics:

- The bank roll is fine, more than 90 % of our orders we are able to process within one business day by paying in advance for you.

- Sometimes (usually during high trading volume) our merchant processor delays payouts (especially of large orders) which forces us to delay the purchases.

- The shared order link is unique and only visible for us and our users, as long as your computer and email software is secure, they are no issues.

We are updating the security of our website, please let us know If you have more concerns please let us know by posting them here.

Thanks for the precious feedback, we constantly improve our core services!

all4btc team

Any major order change like shipping address should be signed by the Bitcoin address that was used to make the purchasse.

I was on an untrusted network when I made the purchasse and did not think that a VPN was necessary since the site has HTTPS. HTTPS is fine against network sniffing but not against interception of the unique order page link. I was suprised to see the amount of information that could be leaked and that support ticket are not forwarded to email by default. This page should at least be password protected.

I guess the actual system is more convenient for most users but I thought necessary to point that weakness. This is only constructive criticism and will not stop me from using your website again.  

Dear user,

thanks for the constructive criticism.

We agree with your weakness points, anyway we need to trade off between usability and security.

So far we never had a problem with the interception of the unique order pages.

The checkout security is encrypted and reliable.

Most of the users are not using PGP email signatures but we will integrate a solution on our site within the next sprint.

We are open for feedback as to constantly improve the website features and user privacy.

Anyway, the focus of our business is to satisfy our users by fast order fulfillment and excellent customer service.

Kind regards,
All4btc

I bought a car recently using all4btc.com - this is the best service in town.

If you wait for email replies, just give them a call (works well I noticed).

As a user twice of this service here is my review :
I have many articles never received from an order of around 15 articles at once (1.1535 BTC spent something like 435USD when it has been made).
Here are my last communications with them :
I never had all tracking informations.
They only provide a general date, a tracking not for all packages (even for the one already received), ect...
Don't tell me I haven't been patient, this is not true, they always take much time to answer and never provide complete/correct informations.
Look at these dates, currently I have still no answer.
So avoid this service as many times as you can.

is this site still legit?
the last review was bad.

Last review is from a newbie account, not exactly the most credible source.

I've used All4BTC A few times in the past months, never had any issues.

Dear bitcoin users and online shopper,

Order anything from anywhere online, pay with bitcoin. No bank or PayPal account, local currency or credit card is required to shop online.

All4btc is a legit enterprise since its foundation in 2013, the company is backed by Bitcoins Berlin, the first European bitcoin startup incubator.

Handling thousands of orders and more than $ 1m transaction volume for our bitcoin customers, we offer a dedicated support team and individual service.

We fulfill each day tons of orders and if something does not work out, we simply refund our customers.

The recent review from W0lV3:


Please check our website, the terms of service and especially our refund policy before shopping with All4btc.

Thanks for the honest feedback, we are open.

The best way to reach us, just get in touch via emailto: support / at / all4btc / dot / com

Kind regards,
Your All4btc team.

I know i dont have many posts and it may not count so much on your opinion but i ordered a headset from ebay and it arrived today and i feel excited  ;D . Perfect communication very fast service. Thnx!

What exactly makes people use this website right here instead of something secure and well known with a good reputation like Purse.io or the other website that I forgot it's name ? :o with 20% off .

Hi, here are 3 simple reasons.

- All4btc is the fastest shopping service for bitcoin
- The All4btc checkout is powered by BitPay, the most reliable payment processor
- You are empowered to shop anywhere and anything (any Amazon, any eBay site, any online shop or market place)

Let me know If we can help to shop anything online!

Kind regards,
All4btc

Not sure if you are the owner of the website or OP is , anyway I have some questions and curious .
How does it work exactly ? you buy the product from Amazon your self with Credit Card or whatever and we pay you in Bitcoin ? also for the Tracking you Track it on Amazon or on your website ? and is there is any buyer protection in case someone don't receive his items because it's kinda scary knowing that Bitcoin is irrevrsible payment method .

Hi,

yes I am the operator of the website, here a short proof - https://twitter.com/all4btc/status/606380795570356224

1. How it works? Read more at http://about.all4btc.com/

We are your representative to shop goods online, therefore we need your shipping details.

You have to pay in advance with bitcoin and within a few hours up to 1 business days, we fulfill your order (in your name for shipping and invoicing).

The products are directly shipped to you (in a few, individual cases we offer re-shipment, if necessary).

You will get the best exchange rate available on the market and there is no need to exchange your bitcoin into cash.

2. We forward all relevant information, notifications and in particular tracking codes from shipment providers.

3. The buyer protection is covered by the seller, e.g. eBay and we garantue up to 100 % refunds, if we can not fulfill your order - http://about.all4btc.com/100-get-money-back-guarantee/

Don't hesitate to ask further questions,
All4btc.com Team

i wanted to order some stuff through your website and i wanted to ask if its possible to get lower fees for orders as i want to buy a small thing for 3 dollars which shipping is free but i have to pay 7 dollars for making order, imo its a bit nonsence

Hi, please send us an email to support [at] all4btc [dot] com and we will figure out a solution.
Please include your product link and shipping address. Kind regards, All4btc

Btw - Most of our customers order medium to larger item, where the fee is relatively small.

Hi, just placed an order for a coffee machine off ebay through your site but have not received any confirmation via email, please advise

ok, I can see from your site that the order status is set to processing, hopefully will get confirmation that the item is paid for and on its way soon.

Hi,

your order for the coffee machine is placed and the payment done.
Since we fulfill from 20 up to 30 orders from customers around the world, please always allow up to 24 hours to proceed.

Thanks for your business and patience.
We are really happy to serve any bitcoin user!

Kind regards,
The All4btc Team from Berlin

PS:

If you have further questions about it, don’t hesitate to ask me anytime.
I also have a question for you: Could I get a short testimonial from you about our service? It'd be extremely helpful.

In order to improve the satisfaction of our customers, we have partnered with the independent review site Trustpilot to collect customer reviews.
All reviews, good, bad or otherwise will be viewable immediately.

Click here to rate us (https://www.trustpilot.com/review/all4btc.com)

Thanks in advance!

glad to hear things are going well with All4BTC, really enjoy using the service you guys provide :)

Hi and we are happy that you got so much value from our service! Please let us know If there is anything we can improve. Kind regards

Thanks, received confirmation that the item has been purchased, looking forward to taking delivery, very happy with your service so far and will definitely be looking to make more purchases in the future

placed my order and received email confirmation within 6 hours!
excellent service guys!
hats off to you Jan!
can't tell you how happy i am to be able to purchase from ebay with bitcoin since paypal is such a hassle in the non supported countries
and your fees are pretty reasonable too!
if i get my product nice and shiny in time i will be your regular customer  :)
really appreciate your efforts! i pray for your continued success !

Hi, thanks for your review and understanding for our fee policy.

We are a pretty small company, just check the website (http://bitcoinsberlin.com) of our incubator.
Our team consists of bitcoin enthusiasts, the CTO, CEO and myself we are working around the clock to fulfill all needs of our customers.

We really focus on speedy order fulfillment and premium customer support (mainly via email and phone).
We are always happy to help out, just let us know if there is any question!

Kind regards, Jan

judging by this thread. i think you earned yourself a customer. i went looking for a way to spend my btc on ebay. and i found you guys.
soon i'll be routing my purhcases through you guys. can't wait to make my first ever "ebay, btc purchase!" : )

This is interesting. Do I need to give you my info for shipping?

Of course you need to send your shipping address, look at step number two -> http://about.all4btc.com/

Hi at all,

yes, crucial are the product link(s), your shipment address and your bitcoins in advance.
We are basically your personal shopping agent for all kind of ecommerce e.g. consumer goods, electronics ... incl. from Amazon, eBay, AliExpress, Zalando, PayPal etc.
Please make sure to check whether the seller offers shipments and for which price to your destination.

Kind regards

PS: By email request, we re-ship products through our Germany office but it takes much longer and we need to charge twice for shipment.

Got my parcel from ebay, I decided to leave a small response.
Everything was fine, i like so many informational mail (four overall: two from all4btc site, one from paypal about payment status, one about order status from ebay seller). But it would be better if the text in one of letters was in English, but not German.
And i fully support what 01BTC10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=51328) said:

And fees are pretty high if compare with bitsumo. I paid 7 usd fees with order price 18.16 usd, it's almost half!  :)

Does this website work?

Hi at all,

for sure our website works, since 2013.

Our email system covers our automatic order & payment confirmation and the order & payment status from the seller site.

If any news are popping up regarding delivery or order status we forward the relevant conversations to keep our users up to date.

We translate all email conversations into English, sorry if we mixed up your one @xandry.

Sorry for the fee, at the moment we can't really do something about it.

Our main market is in Europe with Euro, you can do an order with a min. fee of 5 EUR or 2.38 % of the total invoice amount.

Regarding the security issue: The site is protected by encryption and only available for us and our users.
If somebody wants to change the delivery address (it very rarely actually happens), we make sure to verify users identity by secondary measures.

Let us know if you got further questions or feedback, we are happy to implement updates.

Kind regards,
All4btc

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This is all I found when I clicked on your link.

Hi xmaxbit,

the quote is from Summer 2013, just the link is not valid anymore.

Please find the manual (http://about.all4btc.com/pay-bitcoin-chrome-extension/) and the download link (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/1-click-amazon-bitcoin-ch/cojpifopaaneikgfobjnekpfmpkiekff) for our chrome extension linked here.

Thanks for the technical feedback.

do you ship to france ?

Hi,

All4btc is your personal agent who pays the seller for your goods / services / online shopping cart in your name to ship directly to your destination (or via email).

If the seller offers shipment conditions and pricing at the product page, we are happy to order for you.

Please check restrictions by the marketplace, seller, product or destination country and the pricing and tax import.

Don't hesitate to ask further questions.

Kind regards

I am thinking to buy some goods from Amazon. This is good to know that there is such option. I will check and hopefully use your service shortly.

Just few words about All4BTC service. I make 2 orders recently. One small 20£ and one for 200+ I did order at 23.00 and next day by 12.00 I had my orders complete, emails from all4btc confirming and few hours even courier tracking number. I highly recommend this service.
Thank you. 

I had already bought my new GPU, my new 4K TV and much more small things here. The support is excellent and is trying to reply asap.
Keep up working guys :)

Best regards
Christian Freisheimer

This is extremely interesting. Why so few posts on this thread recently? Is there a different forum?

I have been waiting 3 days and my order is still not confirmed! Suppport hasn't said anything and its kind of sad that a good looking company like this would make people wait this long...

Did you hear anything from them yet? I am debating on using it but am weary when it comes to these things. Could you let me know if you make contact, and if your order is successfully placed (on the site you buy from)?

--MisterCoin

They just confirmed it 7-8 hours after my post. What I suggest now is not to use the service for items on ebay that could be sold out quickly, because obviously you'll have problems when it sells out. I bought 3 heatsinks for the back of my block erupters. Hopefully it ships soon :D
But again, its all luck and they could confirm in one day or two. only time can tell.

Just made an order from an italian site this evening, hope they confirm it fast

I' currently dealing with them.
They seem to be genuine... ;) And they seem to be helpful is you have a particular need.
But their lack of communication is what I'm struggling with, at the moment.
Contacting the support will take ages to get a reply from them..
So, if you are in a hurry, may not be a good idea to use them.
I'm not sure about the final result, as I haven't concluded any transaction yet.
I really hope everything will be fine.

All4btc always keeps our customers best interests in mind. We are dedicated to making sure that every item that is ordered gets delivered.

We also want to remind everyone that we are not amazon with a global support team that can answer every email within minutes. We have built our reputation in the bitcoin community for years and we hope that this hard work can translate into some trust and patience from our customers.

Thank you very much for everything!
All4btc

I have couple questions.
1) How to fill field "shipping"? What kind of information expected?
2) Does all4btc have restrictions on shipping area?
Thanks in advance.

Hi

All4btc, how do you deal with refunds or merchant cancellation of shipments due to various factors such as unforeseen circumstances? What is the refund policy for cases that are beyond our control?

Do you refund BTC based on dollar value or absolute BTC value?

As an example/hypothetical scenario: I bought a pair of shoes for 100 USD and paid its equivalent 0.22 BTC. Five days later, merchant alerted that the shoe size is not available. Will 0.22 BTC be refunded? Or the 100 USD equivalent be refunded (based on prevailing rates)

I just want to confirm my experience with these guys has been great !!!
Reliable  and trustable people.
Don't use them if you are in a hurry maybe.. but they will help you in any way to get what you want.

I tried to purchase another item from them via ebay, tried to return because i didn't want the item after ordering it, 2 days later no response, no confirmation from both bitcoinsberlin and all4btc. Their phone number doesn't work either, so i'm getting pretty impaitent. very slow service, i doubt they'll ever respond. With the falling price of btc, by the time my order comes, it'll be the halving.

Somehow, just like last time, right after i post, they respond. Still very slow service if you live in US like me.

Keep us posted if they respond. It highly impossible to keep up with good service all the time and their real character will show when they are issues.

All4BTC ist totall unprofessionell und ich warne jeden davor bei diesem Unternehmen zu bestellen.
Vor allem dieser support Typ Dylan ist komplett unprofessionell.

Am Samstag den 31.7 habe ich 2 Bestellungen getaetigt die erst am Mittwoch bez Donnerstag die darauffolgende Woche bestateigt wurden.
Am Montag habe ich eine andere bestellung ueber einen Laptop der auf amazon fuer 699€ zum verkauf angeboten wurde nur sind die von all4btc so langsam das bis die meine bestellung bearbeitet haben ist der Preis auf 719€ von amazon raufgesetzt worden.

Ich wollte anfangs die differenz von 20€ bezahlen da ich der meinung bin  all4btc sollte die differenz bezahlen denn es wr schlussendlich ihre Schuld das die Bestellung nicht zeitgemaess bearbeitet wurde.

Da ich aber mittlerzeile bemerkt habe dass Dylan -der support guy etwas  daneben ist habe ich die 20€ bezahlt weil ich dachte es geht dann schneller.

Wieder nichts- keine Antwort keine bestellbestaetigung nichts.


Bitte bestellt nichts bei diesen Versagern weil ihr wartet ewig und 3 Tage auf eure bestellung.

Keine Hilfe und support- dieses Unternehmen ist eine Katstrophe


Ich abe auch einige reviews ueber diese Unternehmen gelesen wo jemnd behauptet er habe Gold bestellt und nichts von hnen erhalten...

So any update on this service? I wanted to by something on amazon but do not have the ways they only allow you to pay for the items. I have bitcoins and want to pay using this way but after reading some reviews of this service I am very wary to risk my bitcoins using it.
Can anyone confirm if it is okay to use them for me to buy something from amazon? Thanks for any advice on this.

THey will process your order and you will receive your stuff when ordering with them

its just that they are slow af and support is unprofessional not to say inexistent
If you have a chance than sell your bitcoins for fiat and order using amazon gift cards or pay with cash, its way faster that way than using their service

its actually really no need to use this service

This is really amazing thank you very much and that extender for chrome makes it a breeze to use, even more easy then it already was. Now I can use my bitcoin easily anywhere.
Thanks for the feedback but why do you say not to use them if you are in a hurry ?

Because they are slow as fuck and have no support
once you order you have to wait 5+ days just to have your order processed

-high fees
- no customer support
-slow processing of orders

No need to use their service for anything
you better off buying amazon gift cards for bitcoin and pay with them than spending money on them

order stuck since 2 days,
supportline is not reachable, no answers to email,
will wait a week, then sue them for fraudulent behavior.

546.71 ( Euro in their Jackpot from me)

EDIT: got contacted by the support 3 days after order,
got a refund, because the product didn't exist for these conditions at that time.

FAZIT: they are a small startup. There are without a doubt, issues, they should manage to solve quickly.
But besides from having scared me a few days, they are legit.

TIP: Do not use the email address, use the form on the bottom of your order-form.
They seem to see these more quickly and you don't risk, to get stuck in their spamfilter.



..

Dear Bitcoin user,

Thanks for your honest feedback, this is highly appreciated.

We are a very small team and everybody is working 50+ hours / every week to support our ecosystem.

We do focus to deliver reliable within the same or up to one or max. two business days.
As mentioned, may do not order with our service, if it is very urgent to proceed.

Regarding your questions:


We accept Euro for the bitcoins received. Hence, we are unable to refund the amount of bitcoins sent. We can only refund the Euro (or any other currency)-equivalent of bitcoins on the day of refund, or Euros directly via bank transfer or other mutually-agreed payment processor. Please check out our refund policy - http://about.all4btc.com/refund-policy/


Please do understand that we currently do not work on the weekend and can't take over significant price differences higher than our margin.


We definitely deliver good or refund without exception.


- 2% on EUR orders
- average same to one business days customer service reply (anything else mentioned here are some exemptions or weekend days
- we fulfill orders within one business day

As well as you may not trust us 100%, you shouldn't trust all reviews. The vast majority of our customers are happy.

Thanks for your understanding and patience,
All4btc

Invoice ID: 6nQdr5s97DQ5rdWvB

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Scam.

He didn't buy anything.

You should probably open a legitimate scam accusation if he really did scam you and did not carry on the agreement so that people get warned of this scam (if it is indeed a scam). This could also allow the accused to share his side of the story.

Hi @ LuanX3 & crypto977

Please write me here and I Will take care of any orders you have placed.

dylan@all4btc.com or by phone 030 749 27985

Sorry for the delay - the updates we have done to our service has created some bugs that we are still trying to resolve.
 
thank you!

I gotta say the website has a lot of bugs

First of all clicking on Alibaba and Ebay results in


Social Media in About us on the bottom of the page links to all4btc.com

support@all4btc.com is non-existing

My 2 orders show as Waiting for 6 confirmations although they've been confirmed a long time ago

I'v sent an e-mail to dylan@all4btc.com

EDIT: Dylan is fast to respond, responds the confirmation thing is a bug on their side, but the orders are getting processed

I must say I don't believe most of my orders have been ordered at all yet, some have already went out of stock...

I have gotten my asrock h81 probtc I ordered with them, however my riser cables have not arrived.

The service is very slow, and you can use it if you have time for the orders to be done..
It takes a week for them to place the order.

I'm currently waiting for a response about the riser cables tracking number.
This is very disturbing to me, since my GPUs and MOBO have arrived, and I have no riser cables to connect them with.
However, a bit of an ease for them is that Amazon.co.uk fucked me too, since my PSU order was supposed to ship a few days ago (1 month old order) and it's apparently out of stock now although I ordered it on 6th June.
So, yeah, fuck me..

same here...
looks like we got scammed.. pick a lawyer mate =)

My risers never arrived either

E-mailing Dylan results in no answer

Calling no answer

Do not order on all4btc!

Hi @coinredeemer
Does it work with Amazon.com and uk only? It's not even mentionned on the website. The OP says .com and .uk but since the service is launched since sometime, I was wondering if maybe they added more since. If not then they should consider adding more at least they can target a more large audience. I would be interested to use such service

@iluvbitcoins ouch sad to hear this. Personaly I don't mind to wait a bit longer like a week or so, but if items are never ordered or never delivered this is something else

Any news?

Support mail doesn't exist and Dylan doesn't answer  any more.

Perhaps I try to give them a call

just filed my police report.
edit:
got in contact with dylan, he aint working there anymore, but hes trying to forward the issues from this thread.

too bad that this appears to be a scam . the concept is a good one , and would be money maker if done right and honestly

got my refundmail from bitpay.
well, i dont think its a scam, rather they arent doing it like a real serious business?
website isnt working right, support not there (except you go very long ways)
not even auto mail confirmation if you order.
it was working well in the early times, but afaik they switched owner like 3 times this and last year, and it were like 3 ppl working there (i assume)
i kind of would be interested in making it work again :/

You may be interested in an alternative:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2138498.40

Do you buy the product for clients and ship it to the client again ?

As far as I can see your service offers in USD, EUR and GBP. What about other countries?? Do you offer your services in India too? If you do then I would like to order a OTG pendrive.

https://www.amazon.in/SanDisk-Ultra-Dual-32GB-Drive/dp/B01N5KHFG9/ref=br_bsl_pdt-1/262-4857992-8406565?pf_rd_m=A1VBAL9TL5WCBF&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=H248KANB7RKSE3SHJYER&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=6348d802-dd7c-40e8-b17b-d7fbbe09665c&pf_rd_i=desktop

Friends,

if the last two questions are addressed to us, I suggest that we move to a DashBargain thread :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2138498.40

in short, we strongly focus on customer satisfaction and process all orders same day and yes, we can order from Amazon to India.

Has anyone succesfully contacted them recently? I'm waiting for a refund since july... they don't answer at the phone nor the emails can anyone be of help?

All4btc is defintely not a scam. It used to work fine even though you had to wait 1 or 2 days sometimes. Been using all4btc for quite some time. Support was always friendly. But i'm not happy with the current situation either. Support wont answer for about a week, orders wont get processed for a week and i cant find any info on all4btc site,fb and no repsonse on skype. Please guys inform your customers!

@all: Dylan has stopped or is going to stop working there and is moving to other projects,  maybe this has to do with the current delay in order processing..  there is an interview with dylan on yt.. 

https://youtu.be/sUXYiSQRiW0?t=790

It is not a scam, but at the moment the service at all is bad as hell.
The support is not available at all - the support-mail address doesnt exist. Dylan does not answer any emails any more (the reason may be the one mentioned by morozec80). No one is answering phone calls - no matter which time you try to call them. I even tried to get another contact to any All4BTC related person and contacted Bitwala. They sent me another mail-address, but even this one is not answered.

On 6.11. i created two separate orders on their site (one order on Amazon, one on Ebay). Then, after paying, nothing happened for 11 days - in the meantime i tried several ways to contact them, without success.
On 17.11 - so 11 days after ordering - the order on Amazon was completed. First i thought it may be a system failure but the next day i got this delivery. The second order (the one on Ebay) was not touched.
At this moment, 15 days later, this second order is still not fulfilled.

So now i wonder: Why does this need them sooooo long to do anything at all? Why is one of my orders complete while the other is still untouched? Why isnt there anyone doing support?
In this state it is absolutely not possible to recommend this service. At the moment i dont know what to do to get any contact to them.

I'm stil waiting...    
I'm waiting for a refund since July, I tried to contact them through email (dylan and nina) and phone and noone answers, contact Bitwala who told me they changed owner (Martin Mischke), contact Bitpay and they told me they can't do anything... does anyone have any suggestion?
I'm waiting for a refund of 400€...  it may not be much for many people, but for me it was a little investment...  they were gpus I wanted to mine with, I would've made a decent profit instead I lost money

Try this service: https://shopawl.com they currently offers AliExpress, but they will add Amazon soon.

Hello,

We just found this thread and would like to help out. The new owner is Martin and you can contact the new support via email dylan@all4btc.com.

Best regards,

Robert @Bitwala


Hallo,

Wir haben gerade erst diesen Kanal gefunden und möchten helfen. Der neuer Besitzer ist Martin und ihr könnt den neuen Support per E-Mail an dylan@all4btc.com.

Viele Grüße

Robert @Bitwala

DONT BUY SCAM!!!!!!

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not true, they did a great job.
I use it often and spent thousands of dollars buying stuff.

They are not fast, they are doing everything by hand and they are a bit understuffed,
but they are honest and they do the job, they claim to do.

have fun
Matthias


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Пpивeтcтвyю!
дaжe ecли oни и нe oбмaнывaют, нo кoгдa ничeгo нe нaлaжeнo и oни oб этoм и нe пpeдyпpeждaют... этo тoжe - paвнocильнo oбмaнy!

Hi,

its not true. Maybe they did a great job in the past. I am waiting since a month for my Amazon order. They told me the order is complete but I never received the tracking ID or the order ID from Amazon. I tried multiple times to contact them and get now answer. The most email addresses on the site even exist anymore.

I told them I go to the police even then I got no answer. The phone is also dead. They had the only job to order a product on Amazon. How hard can that be?
My money is lost and I will go to the police.

Still nothing on my refund... the order is from July, now both bitpay and nina say they can't send the refund after they created the invoice in december... what the fuck
https://bitpay.com/invoice?id=EkbQGpMPteadoTdejbreaV&v=2&purchaserKey=iqtEiubp38xouCxkH1aqc6Pq6txG1f5syR2Dy9AD8WJoEu3Vg53rXs7jSxf5ChB3ZCLArF3oVnpRpjnWwzwRtn7bA9e4pvJB5Q2R8ru75UCRDhHi5JVe8ZnobKXRvkxWQKQ68qNfE1c2VbEPugZrm6jq1


Dude didn't you read the posts? Don't use this shit.

Not getting response via Whatsapp from Nina anymore? Anyone else facing this problem? ...apart fromt that she told me last time they still have technichal issues... one reason beeing that visa suspended bitcoin payment cards..

read here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/01/05/visa-locks-bitcoin-payment-cards-crackdown-card-issuer/

They are a scam there is nothing to talk about. Make a legal complaint or get over your lost money.