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Title: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: RichardChanze on June 26, 2013, 12:37:40 PM


Its probably the movie that has had most effect on people, and hollywood still can sell these movies over and over on what ever new format comes out, lol.

But star wars 4-6 really was just 1 movie.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: escrow.ms on June 26, 2013, 12:43:42 PM
The Godfather, scarface.

I love them <3


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on June 26, 2013, 06:41:13 PM
Broken Arrow, the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Io8s55o6w


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: luv2drnkbr on June 26, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
Club 59's "Girl Crush"


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: jackjack on June 26, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
Harry Potter 2


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: BitSmile on June 26, 2013, 07:07:07 PM
I don't remember most movies I saw in my life, but I remember some of them were really good...I remember Fear and Loathing and Las Vegas, Pink Floyd's The Wall, and recently I watched a nice movie by Tim Burton, "the big fish", and it was good.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2013, 09:32:24 PM
I think the only one that's really stuck with me so far is District 9, some of the others were good and enjoyable but they all suffered from that over the top bullshit that most movies do.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: raze on June 26, 2013, 10:53:09 PM
Probably Sneakers. Gotta love the good old hacker movies :P


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 26, 2013, 11:24:02 PM
Define best:

1. Upon the film's first viewing, it trumped all other first viewings.

2. The film holds up to repeated viewings with undiminished pleasure more so than other films.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on June 26, 2013, 11:26:22 PM
I don't know if it is the best movie, but one of my favorites is "Black Hawk Down"


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 27, 2013, 01:55:32 AM
I can't actually name a favorite movie. Can anyone here truthfully do that?

I can name movies I truly enjoy, or movies I think everyone should watch at least once. But I can't actually name a favorite movie.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: raze on June 27, 2013, 02:00:05 AM
I can't actually name a favorite movie. Can anyone here truthfully do that?

I can name movies I truly enjoy, or movies I think everyone should watch at least once. But I can't actually name a favorite movie.

I had this dilemma. Whenever someone asks a question like this, I generally just go with the first one that pops into my head but that's not very reliable.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 27, 2013, 02:09:19 AM
I can't actually name a favorite movie. Can anyone here truthfully do that?

I can name movies I truly enjoy, or movies I think everyone should watch at least once. But I can't actually name a favorite movie.

I had this dilemma. Whenever someone asks a question like this, I generally just go with the first one that pops into my head but that's not very reliable.

Imagine that you're going to a desert island for the next five years, which has all the food you can eat, and a nice home theater with no satellite services, cable, etc. Just a Blu-ray player. Now, you can take 10 movies with you. I think such a question gets to the heart of the matter. What movies would you bring? In the end, it boils down to those movies which give you undiminished pleasure in watching over and over. Take a stab at.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: raze on June 27, 2013, 02:20:27 AM
I can't actually name a favorite movie. Can anyone here truthfully do that?

I can name movies I truly enjoy, or movies I think everyone should watch at least once. But I can't actually name a favorite movie.

I had this dilemma. Whenever someone asks a question like this, I generally just go with the first one that pops into my head but that's not very reliable.

Imagine that you're going to a desert island for the next five years, which has all the food you can eat, and a nice home theater with no satellite services, cable, etc. Just a Blu-ray player. Now, you can take 10 movies with you. I think such a question gets to the heart of the matter. What movies would you bring? In the end, it boils down to those movies which give you undiminished pleasure in watching over and over. Take a stab at.

I'd probably just take Cast Away and think about how hilarious I am for 5 years.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: dwdoc on June 27, 2013, 02:23:15 AM
Donnie Darko
Requiem for a Dream
Jacob's Ladder


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 27, 2013, 02:27:19 AM
Equinox Flower
Yi Yi
2046
When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
Late Autumn
Early Summer
Floating Weeds


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 27, 2013, 03:23:03 AM
To expound on the idea of what constitutes a 'favorite' film, I believe it has to be a desert island film. No way around it. You have to be able to watch it over and over again with undiminished pleasure. Just talking about them makes me want to watch them now.

Some clips from true desert island films:

2046: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1uTz_Ufr3sk#t=2333s

Equinox Flower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wI6LfigwYA

Floating Weeds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPjHBhWm4MU



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 29, 2013, 04:39:08 PM
2001: A Space Odyssey

Good choice, with caveats. Let's consider your choice.

It came in at #2 on the most recent Sight & Sound directors poll, which polls for the greatest films ever made. It will remain there for at least ten years, because the poll only occurs every ten years. See the poll results here: http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/sight-sound-2012-directors-top-ten . Note that it lost out to a film called Tokyo Story, directed by Yasujiro Ozu. In a prior post in this thread, I mentioned four Ozu films. Ozu is indeed one of my favorite directors, and he is also a favorite among a huge number of avid film watchers.

Now, specifically regarding 2001: A Space Odyssey, we have a film which seems to be unrivaled in addressing man's place in the Universe. No other film comes close. Period.

It's important, however, to watch the film properly. It should be watched in its original aspect ratio (not a cropped fullscreen DVD), and it should preferably be watched either in a theater, in a home theater, or on a decent flat panel, where the source is preferably the recent Blu-ray. Furthermore, by properly watching it, that means no interruptions, the volume boosted, and you giving it your rapt attention.

One caveat though: it is indeed worth watching several times, and revisiting it every now and then, but is it a desert island film? I'm not sure, due to its lack of warmth and emotion.

Additional note: on the Sight & Sound Critics poll, (not the directors poll), it came in at #6. Ozu's Tokyo Story came in at #3. See here: http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/critics/


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: AliceWonder on June 29, 2013, 04:51:47 PM
Probably Sneakers. Gotta love the good old hacker movies :P

Yes - Sneakers is at the top of the list.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 29, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
Art Bell's favorite, of which I concur.

http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/05_11/1980/0081534/l_65430_0081534_623e2c90.jpg


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: btceic on June 29, 2013, 05:14:14 PM
Can't pick just one so here are my top movies of all time:

Matrix 1 (2 and 3 also which finished the trilogy but 1 blew my mind)
The Animatrix
Contact
Ghost in the Shell
Higher Learning
The Usual Suspects
Gandhi
Pink Floyd's The Wall
Good Will Hunting
The Shawshank Redemption
Forrest Gump
The Silence of the Lambs

Old School:
Jaws: this movie has had the most effect on me
ET: watched this at the movie theater with my family when I was a kid.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: cryptoanarchist on June 29, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Atlas Shrugged - part 1



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: GaiusMaximus on June 29, 2013, 05:48:56 PM
The Godfather pII


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: calfe on June 30, 2013, 03:41:22 AM
the dark knight


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 30, 2013, 08:51:02 AM
I can't decide on one best movie, but I enjoyed these a lot:

Memento (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/)
House of Sand and Fog (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315983/)
Requiem for a Dream (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/) I know, it's been mentioned, but this really fucked me for a few days.
Pi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/)
Lost Highway (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116922/)
In the Mouth of Madness (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113409/)
Dead Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112817/)
Funny Games (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808279/)
Dogville (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0276919/) and its sequel Manderlay (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342735/)
Moon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/)
Sunshine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448134/)

meh, I could go on and on...


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: hany103 on June 30, 2013, 12:05:26 PM
Can't decide


Memento
V For Vendetta
Schindler's List
Requiem For A Dream
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Inception
The Dark Knight
American History X
The Bucket List
The Pursuit Of Happyness


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on June 30, 2013, 04:00:23 PM
Contact
Good Will Hunting
The Shawshank Redemption
The Silence of the Lambs
Jaws: this movie has had the most effect on me

Memento (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/)
House of Sand and Fog (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315983/)
Requiem for a Dream (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/) I know, it's been mentioned, but this really fucked me for a few days.
In the Mouth of Madness (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113409/)
Moon (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/)
Sunshine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448134/)

Memento
Schindler's List
Requiem For A Dream
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Inception

A while back, I would've made lists like those of btceic, PurpleTentacle and hany103, including films such as those listed above. All good films. I have many of those on Blu-ray or DVD.

But then I started watching films which were critically acclaimed for various reasons.

There are two lists below. One is a list of some of my absolutely favorite relatively modern films generally made for American and British markets with some sort of Hollywood influence. It is the second list. The other is a list of some of my all time favorite films which I would take to a desert island with me. They are pretty much all Asian films, but critically acclaimed to very high levels, often occurring in the top 100 greatest films ever made.

The point is, I am not unlike others in this thread. I have watched and enjoyed the same films as all of you. And I would have named them as some of my favorite films. But I must say, after having explored other areas of cinema, I truly understand why critics also name the same kinds of films I have been naming, as in an earlier post here.

Given that I have been on the same path as all of you in watching films, and came to the same conclusions as you with regard to what constitutes a great film (see the quoted sections above), it stands to reason that there must be something wonderful and significant about the films listed below which would appeal to many of you as well.

And thus, I stand behind the following as some of my absolutely favorite films.

Yi Yi: http://mubi.com/films/yi-yi-a-one-and-a-two
When a Woman Ascends the Stairs: http://mubi.com/films/when-a-woman-ascends-the-stairs
* Trailer for When a Woman Ascends the Stairs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c57V3Owk30w
Pale Flower: http://mubi.com/films/pale-flower
* Trailer for Pale Flower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOOr4nuWFqU
The Terrorizers: http://mubi.com/films/the-terrorizers
Center Stage: http://mubi.com/films/center-stage
* Trailer for Center Stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwp-_UL2PlY
Equinox Flower: http://mubi.com/films/equinox-flower
* Clip from Equinox Flower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wI6LfigwYA
Days of Being Wild: http://mubi.com/films/days-of-being-wild
* Trailer for Days of Being Wild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cExEkJjyD8
In the Mood for Love: http://mubi.com/films/in-the-mood-for-love
* Trailer for In the Mood for Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRQqksluZk
2046: http://mubi.com/films/-2046
Chungking Express: http://mubi.com/films/chungking-express
The Human Condition: http://mubi.com/films/the-human-condition
Sansho the Bailiff: http://mubi.com/films/sansho-the-bailiff
* Trailer for Sansho the Bailiff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=076MrMynyak
Late Autumn: http://mubi.com/films/late-autumn
Early Summer: http://mubi.com/films/early-summer
* Clip from Early Summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF3Gz66P2zQ
Floating Weeds: http://mubi.com/films/floating-weeds
* Floating Weeds analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPjHBhWm4MU
The Face of Another: http://mubi.com/films/the-face-of-another
* Trailer for The Face of Another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa6BitYbhZU

But I also really like the ones listed below. They rank very very highly on my list:

No Country for Old Men: http://mubi.com/films/no-country-for-old-men
Lost in Translation: http://mubi.com/films/lost-in-translation
True Grit: http://mubi.com/films/true-grit--2
Net Let Me Go: http://mubi.com/films/never-let-me-go
2001: A Space Odyssey: http://mubi.com/films/2001-a-space-odyssey
Beetlejuice: http://mubi.com/films/beetlejuice
Mystery Train: http://mubi.com/films/mystery-train
Layer Cake: http://mubi.com/films/layer-cake
X-Men: First Class: http://mubi.com/films/x-men-first-class
The Innkeepers: http://mubi.com/films/the-innkeepers
Zodiac: http://mubi.com/films/zodiac
Last of the Mohicans: http://mubi.com/films/the-last-of-the-mohicans
Jane Eyre: http://mubi.com/films/jane-eyre--2
L.A. Confidential: http://mubi.com/films/la-confidential
Hugo: http://mubi.com/films/hugo
Barry Lyndon: http://mubi.com/films/barry-lyndon
Pride & Prejudice: http://mubi.com/films/pride-prejudice
Iron Man: http://mubi.com/films/iron-man
Midnight in Paris: http://mubi.com/films/midnight-in-paris
The Jacket: http://mubi.com/films/the-jacket
Hunger: http://mubi.com/films/hunger
The Ninth Gate: http://mubi.com/films/the-ninth-gate
Let Me In: http://mubi.com/films/let-me-in
An Education: http://mubi.com/films/an-education
A Dangerous Method: http://mubi.com/films/a-dangerous-method

And with that said, please visit my growing list of films I have yet to watch here in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246542.0

You are invited to list out films that you want to watch there as well.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on July 01, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
Some more of my favorites:

Braveheart
Gladiator
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Hero
Elektra
Breach
A Beautiful Mind
The Lion King


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 02, 2013, 04:34:26 AM
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Hero

What did you like the most about these?


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on July 02, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Hero

What did you like the most about these?

Beautifully choreographed fight sequences, stunning visual effects, interesting story.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Damnsammit on July 02, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
The Big Lebowski

(I know.  Shocker!)


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: bitfair on July 02, 2013, 04:49:28 PM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned mine yet:

Dumb & Dumber

 :D


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 02, 2013, 05:01:07 PM
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Hero

What did you like the most about these?

Beautifully choreographed fight sequences, stunning visual effects, interesting story.

I'm not against any of those. I love it when stuff is choreographed, and I'm a big fan of cinematography. Everything you like about those films is good. But I was specifically thinking of the cast. Both of your choices star Zhang Ziyi, and Hero also stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung. A few posts back, I mentioned some great films. Of those, I listed some below. Four of them star Tony Leung. Four of them star Maggie Cheung. And one of them stars Zhang Ziyi. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this are the rave (and I mean rave) reviews Zhang Ziyi received for her performance in 2046. To get an idea, read this: http://www.helloziyi.us/Articles/2046-ziyi-critical-praise.htm

2046: http://mubi.com/films/-2046
Days of Being Wild: http://mubi.com/films/days-of-being-wild
* Trailer for Days of Being Wild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cExEkJjyD8
In the Mood for Love: http://mubi.com/films/in-the-mood-for-love
* Trailer for In the Mood for Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRQqksluZk
Chungking Express: http://mubi.com/films/chungking-express
Center Stage: http://mubi.com/films/center-stage
* Trailer for Center Stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwp-_UL2PlY


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on July 02, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned mine yet:

Dumb & Dumber

 :D

Nobody has mentioned it because it was dumb.  :P


I'm not against any of those. I love it when stuff is choreographed, and I'm a big fan of cinematography. Everything you like about those films is good. But I was specifically thinking of the cast. Both of your choices star Zhang Ziyi, and Hero also stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung. A few posts back, I mentioned some great films. Of those, I listed some below. Four of them star Tony Leung. Four of them star Maggie Cheung. And one of them stars Zhang Ziyi. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this are the rave (and I mean rave) reviews Zhang Ziyi received for her performance in 2046. To get an idea, read this: http://www.helloziyi.us/Articles/2046-ziyi-critical-praise.htm

2046: http://mubi.com/films/-2046
Days of Being Wild: http://mubi.com/films/days-of-being-wild
* Trailer for Days of Being Wild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cExEkJjyD8
In the Mood for Love: http://mubi.com/films/in-the-mood-for-love
* Trailer for In the Mood for Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRQqksluZk
Chungking Express: http://mubi.com/films/chungking-express
Center Stage: http://mubi.com/films/center-stage
* Trailer for Center Stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwp-_UL2PlY

Other than "Center Stage", I have not seen any of those movies. I will have to watch them sometime.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 02, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
I'm not against any of those. I love it when stuff is choreographed, and I'm a big fan of cinematography. Everything you like about those films is good. But I was specifically thinking of the cast. Both of your choices star Zhang Ziyi, and Hero also stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung. A few posts back, I mentioned some great films. Of those, I listed some below. Four of them star Tony Leung. Four of them star Maggie Cheung. And one of them stars Zhang Ziyi. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this are the rave (and I mean rave) reviews Zhang Ziyi received for her performance in 2046. To get an idea, read this: http://www.helloziyi.us/Articles/2046-ziyi-critical-praise.htm

2046: http://mubi.com/films/-2046
Days of Being Wild: http://mubi.com/films/days-of-being-wild
* Trailer for Days of Being Wild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cExEkJjyD8
In the Mood for Love: http://mubi.com/films/in-the-mood-for-love
* Trailer for In the Mood for Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRQqksluZk
Chungking Express: http://mubi.com/films/chungking-express
Center Stage: http://mubi.com/films/center-stage
* Trailer for Center Stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwp-_UL2PlY

Other than "Center Stage", I have not seen any of those movies. I will have to watch them sometime.

Hopefully you're not confusing a later Hollywood film named Center Stage which is not the same one I mentioned. A quick check of my link will verify.

Anyway, I will admit that Center Stage is a slow movie, but beautiful and tragic. As for the other films, they're all by Wong Kar-Wai. Best if you go into them knowing you're watching Wong Kar-Wai films. The more you put into them, the more you get out of them. Each requires at least two viewings to get to grips with his themes.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on July 02, 2013, 05:17:37 PM
I'm not against any of those. I love it when stuff is choreographed, and I'm a big fan of cinematography. Everything you like about those films is good. But I was specifically thinking of the cast. Both of your choices star Zhang Ziyi, and Hero also stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung. A few posts back, I mentioned some great films. Of those, I listed some below. Four of them star Tony Leung. Four of them star Maggie Cheung. And one of them stars Zhang Ziyi. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this are the rave (and I mean rave) reviews Zhang Ziyi received for her performance in 2046. To get an idea, read this: http://www.helloziyi.us/Articles/2046-ziyi-critical-praise.htm

2046: http://mubi.com/films/-2046
Days of Being Wild: http://mubi.com/films/days-of-being-wild
* Trailer for Days of Being Wild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cExEkJjyD8
In the Mood for Love: http://mubi.com/films/in-the-mood-for-love
* Trailer for In the Mood for Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRQqksluZk
Chungking Express: http://mubi.com/films/chungking-express
Center Stage: http://mubi.com/films/center-stage
* Trailer for Center Stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwp-_UL2PlY

Other than "Center Stage", I have not seen any of those movies. I will have to watch them sometime.

Hopefully you're not confusing a later Hollywood film named Center Stage which is not the same one I mentioned. A quick check of my link will verify.

Anyway, I will admit that Center Stage is a slow movie, but beautiful and tragic. As for the other films, they're all by Wong Kar-Wai. Best if you go into them knowing you're watching Wong Kar-Wai films. The more you put into them, the more you get out of them. Each requires at least two viewings to get to grips with his themes.

Heh, yeah, I didn't look at the links, so I thought you were talking about the 2000 American one. I was also a bit confused why you would include that in this list; seeing you meant the other one makes much more sense.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 02, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
I'm not against any of those. I love it when stuff is choreographed, and I'm a big fan of cinematography. Everything you like about those films is good. But I was specifically thinking of the cast. Both of your choices star Zhang Ziyi, and Hero also stars Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung. A few posts back, I mentioned some great films. Of those, I listed some below. Four of them star Tony Leung. Four of them star Maggie Cheung. And one of them stars Zhang Ziyi. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this are the rave (and I mean rave) reviews Zhang Ziyi received for her performance in 2046. To get an idea, read this: http://www.helloziyi.us/Articles/2046-ziyi-critical-praise.htm

2046: http://mubi.com/films/-2046
Days of Being Wild: http://mubi.com/films/days-of-being-wild
* Trailer for Days of Being Wild: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cExEkJjyD8
In the Mood for Love: http://mubi.com/films/in-the-mood-for-love
* Trailer for In the Mood for Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kRQqksluZk
Chungking Express: http://mubi.com/films/chungking-express
Center Stage: http://mubi.com/films/center-stage
* Trailer for Center Stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwp-_UL2PlY

Other than "Center Stage", I have not seen any of those movies. I will have to watch them sometime.

Hopefully you're not confusing a later Hollywood film named Center Stage which is not the same one I mentioned. A quick check of my link will verify.

Anyway, I will admit that Center Stage is a slow movie, but beautiful and tragic. As for the other films, they're all by Wong Kar-Wai. Best if you go into them knowing you're watching Wong Kar-Wai films. The more you put into them, the more you get out of them. Each requires at least two viewings to get to grips with his themes.

Heh, yeah, I didn't look at the links, so I thought you were talking about the 2000 American one. I was also a bit confused why you would include that in this list; seeing you meant the other one makes much more sense.

Never saw the American film, which is not related in any way, plot or otherwise, so I won't comment on it. The one I'm talking about stars Maggie Cheung. Please look at the links. I provide them so that people such as yourself can discover entirely new sets of films to explore.

I specifically usually don't mention films which the average guy posting here has heard of. But I also don't mention really obscure stuff even though others haven't heard of them. I try to mention films which are highly revered, critically appraised, and just damn great to watch. Many of them are cerebral though.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: rtf on July 05, 2013, 05:19:29 PM
The Godfather. It is one of the best movies ever.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: escrow.ms on July 05, 2013, 05:25:58 PM
Titanic
Soul surfer
The Notebook


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 05, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
The Godfather. It is one of the best movies ever.

Number 22 in fact. Coming in below two Yasujiro Ozu films, one Stanley Kubrick film, one Akira Kuosawa film, and one Andrei Tarkovsky film, among others, And very nearly immediately following it are one more Akira Kurosawa film, a Wong Kar-Wai film, and two more Andrei Tarkovsky films. That's if you listen to the critics.

http://www.imdb.com/list/6KlogkcUZ8c/

If you listen to the directors, The Godfather came in at number 7. Still behind one Yasujiro Ozu film and one Stanley Kubrick film.

http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/directors/


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: PrintMule on July 05, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
I don't get it, who nominated godFARTer as the best movie ever? Is it some kind of snowball effect? Is it because of IMDB?

I'd pick... say, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" over godfather any day. And it's not even in my top 20.

I know direction is great, and it's full of them easy to remember quotes, but come on, not the best!


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: escrow.ms on July 05, 2013, 06:14:27 PM
I don't get it, who nominated godFARTer as the best movie ever? Is it some kind of snowball effect? Is it because of IMDB?

I'd pick... say, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" over godfather any day. And it's not even in my top 20.

I know direction is great, and it's full of them easy to remember quotes, but come on, not the best!
http://static.tumblr.com/qzlpe6e/s1Sm9i9b1/joker_clap.gif


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 05, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
I don't get it, who nominated godFARTer as the best movie ever? Is it some kind of snowball effect? Is it because of IMDB?

It depends on who you ask. It's not really related to IMDB. If you're referring to the link I posted, IMDB was just reporting the results of the Sight & Sound poll, which is presented by the British Film Institute, and is generally considered to be one of the most important film polls out there, polling only critics and directors. If you poll the public, then you only get recent films, and a couple cult classics from the '70s, typically.

I've only watched The Godfather once. I'll probably watch it again some day. In the meantime, I'll watch nearly every Yasujiro Ozu film many times over, I'll be a glutton for any Mikio Naruse film I can get my hands on, every Edward Yang film I can get my hand on, just about any Coen Brothers film, any Wong Kar-Wai film, and I'm developing an interest in Ingmar Bergman. That's not to say I don't enjoy a good Marvel film or recent thriller.

Now, you keep hearing me mention Yasujiro Ozu. You won't understand why until you give him a shot. Watch two or three of his films, and something transcendental happens. Seeing as he has two films in the top twenty on the worldwide Sight & Sound poll, something must be going on there.

Buy this package - you'll be happy you did. It will be half off at Barnes & Noble next week: http://www.criterion.com/boxsets/427-eclipse-series-3-late-ozu

Note: it includes five films. Numbers 2 through 5 are some of my favorites of all time. The first one is okay.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: RoadToHell on July 05, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
Pretty tough to pick a single "best movie you have ever seen."  Here are 10 that I really like that come to mind quickly.  If I spent more time I know I would come up with others that would bump some of these off my list.

   Blade Runner
   Casablanca
   2001: A Space Odyssey
   The Lord of the Rings trilogy *
   The Red Violin
   A Fistful of Dollars
   Hombre
   Forbidden Planet
   The Maltese Falcon
   Thunder Road

* Counts as 1 movie

And here are some that didn't make my list (or anyone else's so far) apparently because they are too damn funny to be on a list like this:

   Animal House
   Blazing Saddles
   Young Frankenstein
   Caddyshack
   Stripes


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 05, 2013, 07:39:39 PM
Pretty tough to pick a single "best movie you have ever seen."  Here are 10 that I really like that come to mind quickly.  If I spent more time I know I would come up with others that would bump some of these off my list.

   Blade Runner
   Casablanca
   2001: A Space Odyssey
   The Lord of the Rings trilogy *
   The Red Violin
   A Fistful of Dollars
   Hombre
   Forbidden Planet
   The Maltese Falcon
   Thunder Road

* Counts as 1 movie

And here are some that didn't make my list (or anyone else's so far) apparently because they are too damn funny to be on a list like this:

   Animal House
   Blazing Saddles
   Young Frankenstein
   Caddyshack
   Stripes

Some pretty good choices I think, within the framework of Hollywood. I will confess some deficiency myself in exploring films from Europe and Russia, which I hope to rectify. But I recently started exploring the canon of films from East Asia, and it has changed my outlook drastically. Mid 20th century Japanese melodrama is a great place to start, along with the Japanese New Wave of the '60s. Modern cinema from Hong Kong, Taiwan and the mainland are another.

Obviously, you haven't yet seen Sansho the Bailiff.

Best way to start is to start reading blogs and reviews which mention the following directors: Kenji Mizoguchi, Edward Yang, Mikio Naruse, Yasujiro Ozu, Hiroshi Teshigahara, Masahiro Shinoda, Shohei Immamura, Hou Hsiao-Hsien, Akira Kurosawa, Keisuke Kinoshita, Wong Kar-Wai, Chen Kaige, Stanley Kwan, and others.

In retrospect, I feel as though my life's cinematic experience prior to discovering the films of the above listed was, to say the least, narrow, and missing out on some great beauty.

Apparently, I am the only person in these forums aware of these films. It's kind of like you keep telling people about a gourmet paradise just around that corner, and they keep not seeing the corner while they fight over whether to patronize McDonald's or Burger King.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 05, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Okay, so I was checking out videos on YouTube, and I stumbled onto a video which interviews Kubrick during the premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

And then, on a whim, I started reading the comments. Funny. What I witnessed were people arguing about who was the greatest director, or what was the greatest film. People were arguing Yasujiro Ozu vs. Orson Welles vs. Stanley Kubrick vs. Godard. Kenji Mizoguchi was mentioned. Somebody had the nerve to mention Christopher Nolan. The Godfather was mentioned. 

Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdKHuyhhyuM


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: rxgonzale on July 05, 2013, 09:56:04 PM
one flew over the cuckoos nest

simply brilliant :)


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 05, 2013, 10:14:08 PM
one flew over the cuckoos nest

simply brilliant :)

I really need to add that one to my list over in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246542.0


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: jago25_98 on July 05, 2013, 10:39:50 PM
Some films are pretty good but they seem to get the timing just right and articulate what people are thinking about at just the right moment. Sometimes with art if it's balanced just right such that it's open to interpretation it can be like the film was written especially for you.

Fight Club.

Day of the Dead (I found it very funny for some reason)
Films of the style Moon, Shawshank, Green Mile all safe bets but I really like it when a film is more specific on something rather than a big impact on something everybody reacts to.

Thank you for the Japanese films FirstAscent. Seems you have a greater appreciation for Direction than I but there's a few to look at there so will have to check them out. I guess you liked OldBoy...?
Amazed there's no Anime mentioned yet. Would expect Akira, Castle in the Sky. But then I'd also expect here to see Pan's Labyrinth & ...Dirty Dancing.... Greese....


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 06, 2013, 02:38:17 AM
But then I'd also expect here to see Pan's Labyrinth.....

I loved Pan's Labyrinth. Wonderful film. I have it on Blu-ray.

I guess you liked OldBoy...?

Go to any forums populated by cinephiles, knowledgeable movie watchers, film scholars, and so on, and you'll discover soon enough the threads that discuss the essential directors, the essential film canons, and so on. Among those lists are the essential Asian directors and Asian film canons. Oldboy will generally be mentioned here and there in those discussions, with some claiming its greatness, and others saying its overrated. Nonetheless, there's no way I could not be aware of it. I have it on Blu-ray, but I have not yet seen it. I do intend to watch it, and I'm looking forward to it.

But in and amongst those discussions and those lists of essential films and directors, you will always, always, always find discussion, praise, admiration and critical acclaim (and the occasional dissenters) for the following Asian directors:

- Yasujiro Ozu
- Kenji Mizoguchi
- Edward Yang
- Akira Kurosawa
- Wong Kar-Wai
- Mikio Naruse
- Hou Hsai Hsein
- Nagasi Oshima

And a few others. I could easily add ten or twenty more. For the most part, these directors are not just directors. They are what are known as auteurs. An auteur is always a director, but a director isn't necessarily an auteur. An auteur has a unique style, a unique voice, which is instantly recognizable, not unlike how a Van Gogh painting is instantly recognizable as being painted by Van Gogh.

As I said, their films are essential viewing. To put it bluntly, to not watch them would be either because one simply is unaware of these directors or their works, or is voluntarily choosing to ignore their works, at their own expense.

I'm not some guy mentioning some set of obscure films that some tiny, minor fraction of the population would ever enjoy. What I am is some guy pointing people to a film canon that is universally acknowledge by film critics, scholars, directors and in general, cinephiles, to be be the best of the best, the cream of the crop, etc.

But true enjoyment of these films sometimes takes a little work. They are masterpieces in their own ways, but sometimes they don't give up their treasures in a single viewing. As an example, Ozu films are often double or triple themed, with the dominant theme residing behind another them running counter to the dominant theme. Furthermore, his film grammar is truly unique, and might seem simplistic and quaint, and yet it is beautiful in its subtlety. It takes time to appreciate him, and then something wonderful happens. Wong Kar-Wai films also give out exactly what you put into them. Your average Hollywood movie goer simply is not going to grasp Wong Kar-Wai's 2046 on the first viewing.

More to come...


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 06, 2013, 05:04:58 PM
So Quentin Tarantino talks about Wong Kar-Wai in the link below, and in particular, he discusses Chungking Express, which I have mentioned a few times in this thread and provided a clip to in the "Favorite movie moments" thread. He also mentions Days of Being Wild, Ashes of Time and Fallen Angels, which I've mentioned as well here or in other threads.

Quentin Tarantino provides some context for Chungking Express: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHg-RvcwzE

Here's a brilliant clip from Chungking Express: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBqHAPgB494



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on July 08, 2013, 02:09:08 AM
Titanic
...

I thought Titanic was a horrible movie when I watched it. I guess art is in the eye of the beholder, I just didn't see why people like that. For one thing I thought Leonardo DiCaprio did a horrible job acting, his more recent films he does much better in, like I really enjoyed "Inception". And I do not find Kate Winslet attractive at all.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Koekienmonster on July 08, 2013, 02:46:44 AM
The Godfather pII


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 08, 2013, 03:35:46 AM
Titanic
...

I thought Titanic was a horrible movie when I watched it. I guess art is in the eye of the beholder, I just didn't see why people like that. For one thing I thought Leonardo DiCaprio did a horrible job acting, his more recent films he does much better in, like I really enjoyed "Inception". And I do not find Kate Winslet attractive at all.

What are some of the things you want to get out of a film when you see it?

A window into world you aren't normally privy to? I don't mean fantasy/sci-fi stuff. I just mean subcultures, periods, places that aren't a part of your own life.

Favorite actor/actresses? Do you find pleasure in the familiarity of an actress that has charisma, and plays her roles very well?

An avant garde style? Films which completely twist the methods of portrayal?

Explorations of the existential? Films which explore the nature of identity, one's place in society, an examination of the psyche?

Older films contemporary to their time - i.e. a 1960's film which portrays the '60s.

Period films. Films which portray an earlier time.

Films which are essentially melodramas? Films which explore relationships and plights of the individual within the family and society.

Of course, there are many others, such as adventure, thrillers, biopics, battle, anti-war, and so on.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 03:33:07 AM
I keep reading phenomenal stuff about this film. I really want to see it now: https://vimeo.com/30090257


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: pallokala on July 10, 2013, 07:29:16 AM
The Good, The Bad And The Ugly


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: jeannie on July 10, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
I like Benhur a lot


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Amph on July 10, 2013, 10:00:44 AM
terminator 1


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: hany103 on July 10, 2013, 10:14:41 AM
Inception


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: greyhawk on July 10, 2013, 10:55:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjV3wdXDHDk


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
terminator 1

Really?


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Peter Lambert on July 10, 2013, 05:18:52 PM

Maybe they just have not seen very many movies?


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 05:27:00 PM

Maybe they just have not seen very many movies?

My thoughts exactly. I try and introduce people to whole new genres and film canons in these threads.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: bassclef on July 10, 2013, 05:30:27 PM
The Deer Hunter

A little long (the wedding scene in particular), but a deeply moving movie.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: papaminer on July 10, 2013, 05:30:36 PM
DESPICABLE ME 2

bwahahahahaha


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
To many of you,

Some explanations, please.

Popping in and sniping off a name of a film doesn't really lend integrity or validity to one's choice. Try and demonstrate some cinematic knowledge, or at least show that this forum isn't mostly comprised of just a bunch of twelve year olds.

Posting a title and running is not really indicative of one who is interested in discourse on the subject.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 06:34:11 PM
Martin Scorsese goes into some nice detail into the methods, time and expense of a full film restoration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjv755LkaIE


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: 3nrg on July 10, 2013, 06:46:08 PM
Grand Torino.  Best I've recently seen.  I'm a big Clint Eastwood fan and this movie hit home for me.  It made me reflect on my relationship with my parents and how I never want to become someone who takes those we love for granted.  The ending when they go through his will was probably my favorite ending of any movie.  Kind of leaves a lump in ones throat.  So many of us think the world owes us something... not sure why... seems to be a generational thing though.  It's like the silver spoon of living in a first world country has messed with our moral compass in some way.  I know I'm being stereotypical and painting everyone with the same brush but that's just how I view, in general, most of society... I know there are many many great people out there but we all need to put ourselves in check sometimes.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 06:51:40 PM
Grand Torino.  Best I've recently seen.  I'm a big Clint Eastwood fan and this movie hit home for me.  It made me reflect on my relationship with my parents and how I never want to become someone who takes those we love for granted.  The ending when they go through his will was probably my favorite ending of any movie.  Kind of leaves a lump in ones throat.  So many of us think the world owes us something... not sure why... seems to be a generational thing though.  It's like the silver spoon of living in a first world country has messed with our moral compass in some way.  I know I'm being stereotypical and painting everyone with the same brush but that's just how I view, in general, most of society... I know there are many many great people out there but we all need to put ourselves in check sometimes.

Thank you so much for the thoughtful post, demonstrating your appreciation for the film, and an insightful take on how a film can be perceived and affect someone. You've also, indirectly, showed what components in a film, among perhaps others, speak to you.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: ibminer on July 10, 2013, 07:09:25 PM
Tough to narrow down... mostly old school, its tough to find good movies these days.
Surprised office space hasn't made it to the list yet, so I will start there!

Office Space
The Big Lebowski (just fun to watch for some reason... many good scenes, but its just fun watching Jesus bowl and hearing a spanish version of hotel california - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6z0Zay9itk)
Caddyshack
The Goonies (That's right, I like The Goonies!)
Old School
Shawshank Redemption
The Hangover
40 year old virgin
Rainman
The Wizard of Oz
Pulp Fiction
Idiocracy (because its happening!  :o)
Independance Day (because its going to happen!   :o)



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Damnsammit on July 10, 2013, 07:21:49 PM
The Big Lebowski (just fun to watch for some reason... many good scenes, but its just fun watching Jesus bowl and hearing a spanish version of hotel california - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6z0Zay9itk)

You said it man.  Nobody fucks with teh Jesus.



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: sidhujag on July 10, 2013, 07:28:55 PM
Gladiator
Shawshank Redemption
Last Samurai
A Beautiful Mind
Man On Fire
Pianist
Finding Nemo
LOTR 1 and 2
God Father 1 & 2
Scarface
Hotel Rwanda
The notebook
Fearless/Hero

Hindi
-----
Veer Zaara
Black
Khabi Khush Khabi Ghaam



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 10, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
I can't wait to see The Life of Oharu sometime this week. It's one of Kenji Mizoguchi's masterpieces. I've been looking forward to it for months. It stars Kinuyo Tanaka. She gave great performances in:

Equinox Flower
The Ballad of Narayama
Ugetsu
Sansho the Bailiff
 
I also want to see her in:

Ornamental Hairpin
Red Beard


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: 3nrg on July 11, 2013, 05:08:07 AM
I can't wait to see The Life of Oharu sometime this week. It's one of Kenji Mizoguchi's masterpieces. I've been looking forward to it for months. It stars Kinuyo Tanaka. She gave great performances in:

Equinox Flower
The Ballad of Narayama
Ugetsu
Sansho the Bailiff
 
I also want to see her in:

Ornamental Hairpin
Red Beard


Well thanks to you too.  Nice to hear back as you are very nice and intelligent.  You made me smile... it is nice to know there's a few respectful and thoughtful people floating around on here!  Your movie selections were very unique to me.  I'll have to look into them  :D


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: greyhawk on July 11, 2013, 07:51:26 AM
Sansho the Bailiff


Sansho Dayu was awesome. I don't think I've ever seen such an intense emotional rollercoaster before or after.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Dougie on July 11, 2013, 08:53:41 AM
Donnie Darko
Requiem for a Dream
Jacob's Ladder
From your picture I thought it would have been Eraserhead... It was a pretty bizarre film.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: ccl on July 11, 2013, 09:58:48 AM
Muru Ami
Jose Rizal
Postmen in the Mountains
3 idiots
Azumi
The Blind Swordsman: Satoichi
Ninja Assasin
The Abyss
ET
Star Wars
LOTR

above list are some of my favorites..action, drama, adventure, journey...life


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 11, 2013, 04:52:42 PM
Sansho the Bailiff

Sansho Dayu was awesome. I don't think I've ever seen such an intense emotional rollercoaster before or after.

Anju, how I long for you.
Isn't life torture?


How a song found a mother's children. Such a beautiful and tragic story. The last ten minutes were intense and powerful.

Kenji Mizoguchi, the director, is one of the big four. The four are Yasujiro Ozu, Akira Kurosawa, Mikio Naruse, and of course, Kenji Mizoguchi. If you haven't explored the classic film canon of mid 20th Century Japanese cinema, aside from Sansho Dayu, no better time to start than now.

Since you're familiar with Sansho the Bailiff, then you might be aware that the mother was played by Kinuyo Tanaka. Much earlier in this thread, I mentioned a wonderful Yasujiro Ozu film starring Kinuyo Tanaka. It was Equinox Flower. Ozu is pretty much universally praised as one of the greatest directors of all time. In practical terms, what does that mean? It means that everyone who gets familiar with his work absolutely loves it. I earnestly encourage you to explore not just the films of the big four, but also films by these semi contemporaries of the big four: Keisuke Kinoshita, Masahiro Shinoda, Shohei Imamura, Nagasi Oshima, and Masaki Kobayashi.  

But first, since you've seen Sansho the Bailiff, let's take a deeper look at what others are saying.

David Bordwell on Mizoguchi and Sansho the Bailiff:
http://www.davidbordwell.net/books/figures_intro.php?ss=3

Roger Ebert lists Sansho the Bailiff as one of the 'Great Films' and gives it four stars:
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-sansho-the-bailiff-1954

Two articles from Criterion:
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2678-sansho-the-bailiff-the-lessons-of-sansho
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/960-sansho-the-bailiff


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: greyhawk on July 11, 2013, 06:10:52 PM
Sansho the Bailiff

Sansho Dayu was awesome. I don't think I've ever seen such an intense emotional rollercoaster before or after.

Anju, how I long for you.
Isn't life torture?


How a song found a mother's children. Such a beautiful and tragic story. The last ten minutes were intense and powerful.

Kenji Mizoguchi, the director, is one of the big four. The four are Yasujiro Ozu, Akira Kurosawa, Mikio Naruse, and of course, Kenji Mizoguchi. If you haven't explored the classic film canon of mid 20th Century Japanese cinema, aside from Sansho Dayu, no better time to start than now.

Since you're familiar with Sansho the Bailiff, then you might be aware that the mother was played by Kinuyo Tanaka. Much earlier in this thread, I mentioned a wonderful Yasujiro Ozu film starring Kinuyo Tanaka. It was Equinox Flower. Ozu is pretty much universally praised as one of the greatest directors of all time. In practical terms, what does that mean? It means that everyone who gets familiar with his work absolutely loves it. I earnestly encourage you to explore not just the films of the big four, but also films by these semi contemporaries of the big four: Keisuke Kinoshita, Masahiro Shinoda, Shohei Imamura, Nagasi Oshima, and Masaki Kobayashi.  

But first, since you've seen Sansho the Bailiff, let's take a deeper look at what others are saying.

David Bordwell on Mizoguchi and Sansho the Bailiff:
http://www.davidbordwell.net/books/figures_intro.php?ss=3

Roger Ebert lists Sansho the Bailiff as one of the 'Great Films' and gives it four stars:
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-sansho-the-bailiff-1954

Two articles from Criterion:
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2678-sansho-the-bailiff-the-lessons-of-sansho
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/960-sansho-the-bailiff

The 50s were indeed a great time for Japanese movies. The emotional impact of some of these are staggering. I suspect this has much to do with the healing the Japanese psyche needed after Hiroshima.

Other favorites of mine from that time:
- Kurosawas Ikiru, Rashomon and The Seven Samurai of course
- Ugetsu monogatari, which you already mentioned
- Ozu's Tokyo mongatari is another treat dealing with the mental break between Taisho-era Japan (agrarian, slow, reserved) and the brash, industrial, hurried Showa-era Japan symbolized in the struggles of a family.



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 11, 2013, 06:39:44 PM
Sansho the Bailiff

Sansho Dayu was awesome. I don't think I've ever seen such an intense emotional rollercoaster before or after.

Anju, how I long for you.
Isn't life torture?


How a song found a mother's children. Such a beautiful and tragic story. The last ten minutes were intense and powerful.

Kenji Mizoguchi, the director, is one of the big four. The four are Yasujiro Ozu, Akira Kurosawa, Mikio Naruse, and of course, Kenji Mizoguchi. If you haven't explored the classic film canon of mid 20th Century Japanese cinema, aside from Sansho Dayu, no better time to start than now.

Since you're familiar with Sansho the Bailiff, then you might be aware that the mother was played by Kinuyo Tanaka. Much earlier in this thread, I mentioned a wonderful Yasujiro Ozu film starring Kinuyo Tanaka. It was Equinox Flower. Ozu is pretty much universally praised as one of the greatest directors of all time. In practical terms, what does that mean? It means that everyone who gets familiar with his work absolutely loves it. I earnestly encourage you to explore not just the films of the big four, but also films by these semi contemporaries of the big four: Keisuke Kinoshita, Masahiro Shinoda, Shohei Imamura, Nagasi Oshima, and Masaki Kobayashi.  

But first, since you've seen Sansho the Bailiff, let's take a deeper look at what others are saying.

David Bordwell on Mizoguchi and Sansho the Bailiff:
http://www.davidbordwell.net/books/figures_intro.php?ss=3

Roger Ebert lists Sansho the Bailiff as one of the 'Great Films' and gives it four stars:
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-sansho-the-bailiff-1954

Two articles from Criterion:
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/2678-sansho-the-bailiff-the-lessons-of-sansho
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/960-sansho-the-bailiff

The 50s were indeed a great time for Japanese movies. The emotional impact of some of these are staggering. I suspect this has much to do with the healing the Japanese psyche needed after Hiroshima.

Other favorites of mine from that time:
- Kurosawas Ikiru, Rashomon and The Seven Samurai of course
- Ugetsu monogatari, which you already mentioned
- Ozu's Tokyo mongatari is another treat dealing with the mental break between Taisho-era Japan (agrarian, slow, reserved) and the brash, industrial, hurried Showa-era Japan symbolized in the struggles of a family.

I've seen all of those, except for Ikiru, which I have on DVD, so it's on my list.

Regarding Ugetsu, the lead is played by Masayuki Mori, who also is in Rashomon. He also appears in two other films which I absolutely love. They are Kurosawa's The Idiot, and Mikio Naruse's When a Woman Ascends the Stairs. I wholeheartedly encourage you to get into the Mikio Naruse films, pretty much all starring Hideko Takamine.

As for Ozu's Tokyo Story (Tokyo mongatari), if you haven't seen these other Ozu titles, watch them as soon as you can:

Late Spring
Early Summer
Tokyo Twilight
Equinox Flower
Late Autumn
The End of Summer
Floating Weeds
An Autumn Afternoon


Regarding Setsuko Hara, who was in Tokyo Story, she's also in Late Spring, Early Summer, Tokyo Twilight, Late Autumn and The End of Summer. But she's also in Kurosawa's The Idiot. And she's also in another gem of Kurosawa's: No Regrets for our Youth. She's also in Mikio Naruse's Sound of the Mountain, which I haven't seen yet.

And then regarding Hideko Takamine, who I mentioned was in Mikio Naruse's When a Woman Ascends the Stairs, she also gives a wonderful performance in Keisuke Kinoshita's Twenty-four Eyes. That's another one of those films where the last ten minutes is just amazingly powerful.

No doubt your familiar with Toshiro Mifune, appearing in so many Kurosawa films. He also gives a wonderful performance in Hiroshi Inagaki's Samurai Trilogy. That trilogy also stars Mariko Okada, who gave a feisty performance in Ozu's Late Autumn.

And speaking of actresses named Mariko, an absolute must watch is Masahiro Shinoda's Pale Flower, starring the incredibly beautiful Mariko Kaga.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: greyhawk on July 11, 2013, 06:46:11 PM

I've seen all of those, except for Ikiru, which I have on DVD, so it's on my list.


This is not a joke. Do this now and you will forever thank me. Drop whatever you are doing, doesn't matter if the child falls to a gruesome death 30 stories below or you're in the process of writing down a perfect and simple solution towards world peace in the short fleeting minutes you can remember it, drop whatever it is you do and watch Ikiru now. It's that good.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 11, 2013, 07:10:56 PM

I've seen all of those, except for Ikiru, which I have on DVD, so it's on my list.


This is not a joke. Do this now and you will forever thank me. Drop whatever you are doing, doesn't matter if the child falls to a gruesome death 30 stories below or you're in the process of writing down a perfect and simple solution towards world peace in the short fleeting minutes you can remember it, drop whatever it is you do and watch Ikiru now. It's that good.

Duly noted. I do intend to watch it. I'll now watch it sooner, rather than later, because of your encouragement. And you need to watch those films starring Hideko Takamine and those other Ozu films!

In the meantime, enjoy this fan made tribute to Hideko Takamine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSLKCLv-7bI

And this fan made tribute to Setsuko Hara and Hideko Takamine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O6tdZucyVc

And this tribute to Setsuko Hara in Kurosawa's No Regrets for our Youth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUGhS7t903c


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Moogle on July 12, 2013, 03:55:21 AM
Falling down
I'd you haven't seen it you really should :-)


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 12, 2013, 04:10:40 AM
Falling down
I'd you haven't seen it you really should :-)

I have seen it.

Now right back at you: if you haven't seen Edward Yang's Yi Yi, then you're missing out on something highly revered, highly praised, critically acclaimed, polled as one of the best, and truly profound.

Trailer for Yi Yi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6tSorwYqw


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 12, 2013, 02:33:28 PM
Cannibal Hollocaust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust

Found it on a list of the best horror movies, so decided with a name like that, it couldn't be bad. After watching it with some friends, they wouldn't talk to me for a while. Its so good it was banned in a bunch of countries, and the director was charged with making a snuff film because some of the death scenes were beyond the scope of 1980s special effects.

But really, if you are into slasher movies like SAW, this movie goes way beyond that, I wouldn't reccomend it for the faint of heart, or those with a weak constitution. I wouldn't say it is the best movie I've ever seen, but it was the most impressionable.


More in depth on the director's snuff accusation:

He was found not guilty, but not before being arrested and serving a bit of prison time. What happened was, they wanted to get media attention, so what they did was after the movie was shot, he told some of the actors to go into hiding, so when they weren't seen or heard from again, people started speculating he had actually killed them. After being arrested and forced to prove that he could recreate the scenes in question, he had the actors come out of hiding, and was let off, but was still convicted for obscenity charges.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: andylondon on July 12, 2013, 04:18:47 PM
Bladerunner http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/?ref_=sr_1 score 8.3 !

Then Tron Legacy for a while. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1104001/?ref_=sr_1



Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: hany103 on July 13, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
Shawshank Redemption


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: sootedtho on July 14, 2013, 03:56:40 PM
Harry and the Henderson's ainec


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on July 14, 2013, 05:02:44 PM
Harry and the Henderson's ainec

Not only did I have to look up the title of the movie, but I also had to look up the meaning of the acronym.

Now, if there's a place in your heart for this movie, then that's what is important. You simply can't argue with that. That being said, I have noted that it isn't exactly a film that gets many stars. Maybe you should watch Sansho the Bailiff to counteract the low star rating, and it should counteract any warm and fuzzy feeling you may have gotten from Harry and the Hendersons as well.

Here's a clip (despite the hiss, turn the volume up to hear the ghostly lyrics): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9quT-m7Sk


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: dwdoc on September 18, 2013, 10:23:10 PM
Donnie Darko
Requiem for a Dream
Jacob's Ladder
From your picture I thought it would have been Eraserhead... It was a pretty bizarre film.

Never heard of it.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: Welsh on September 18, 2013, 10:23:54 PM
Matrix. -No need to explain why.


Donnie darko is also a good movie.


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: FirstAscent on September 18, 2013, 10:29:36 PM
Matrix. -No need to explain why.

Donnie darko is also a good movie.

I've seen both. Have you seen some of the movies I've recommended to compare?

In other words, I stand from the position of having seen your two choices and the ones I've mentioned. Do you stand from the same position?


Title: Re: best movie you have ever seen in your life
Post by: caffeinewriter on September 18, 2013, 10:50:39 PM
I'd have to say The Perks of Being a Wallflower is my current favorite. We Are Legion: The Story of the Hacktivists is a close second.

I'm curious, are there any Bitcoiners on Rinema? (Link with invite code (http://www.rinema.com/accounts/sign_up?invitecode=f1c3694170d8191f29c5))