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Title: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 28, 2013, 04:50:04 PM
Calling all Beta testers

Some of you may have heard a little about Project Infinite, well, I am here to tell you that we are entering the final stages and we will be needing beta testers in the next couple of weeks.

There are 100 slots available, so if you want to try out our amazing idea, be quick! The first 100 people to post their interest will be accepted. The counts will be for both here and altcointalk where there will be a beta testers discussion area.

The beta test will consist of each person saving 10,000 Infinite coins for 10 days at 100% interest. So to take part you will need to have 10,000 Infinite coins in hand. You can purchase them at cryptsy.com if you don't already have some.

For those of you that don't know about Project Infinite, let me tell you a little about it...

Project Infinite is now called AltCoinSavings, it is essentially a decentralized savings account... It is decentralized in the sense that your coins are not kept on some server somewhere, or in a air bridge vault in someones office. The coins will stay with you the entire time! That's right!

Let me explain the process so you can better understand.

When you sign up you will be required to download a slightly altered wallet. The source code will be available to view so you know nothing untoward is going on there. The only changes that are made are to the name of the wallet and to some directories that will allow you to have 2 wallets on the same PC.

There is a reason for this of course and that will become apparent soon enough.

So, you have downloaded the wallet and let it sync, now you can choose one of the contracts on offer (though in the Beta there will only be one, as described). The contracts will vary depending on the current price of Infinitecoin. There will be a maximum limit so that we can offer this to as many people as possible.

When you pick the contract you will be asked to deposit your chosen amount into your IFCsavings wallet that you downloaded and hit start once the coins have cleared. From there, we will do the rest! Once you have deposited and hit start we will use a blockchain explorer to query the address you provided, it will check the balance and if it comes back okay your contract will begin! All you have to do is leave the coins in the wallet for the specified amount of time. If you move the coins out at any time then the contract will be void and you will lose any interest you had earned. We will know when this has happened because the block explorer will be constantly monitoring the IFCsavings wallet.

This is why we need the second wallet, you can not use this wallet for anything else or the wallet will create a new address and throw the block explorer off resulting in you losing the interest earned.

Now to top all this off you will be able to view your balance growing with a real time ticker!

This all sounds great, but how will you pay for the interest? You may ask, well, to get things going we have 1 Billion Infinite coins. But to replenish the pot we will be using advertising revenue. So we will encourage all of our members to please at least consider visiting some of our partners, and that is it. :) There will also be the option to donate and many other ideas that we have in store!

Don't think of AltCoinSavings as being the end of Project Infinite... It is merely the beginning!

DISCLAIMER: The wallet is new and in alpha phase at present, please only use it if you know what you are doing. The source code here is mainly so that developers or people that can read source code can look over it to see that nothing sinister is going on. Please use this at your own risk

As promised here is the source code for the IFCsavings Wallet. If someone could have a go compiling it that would be fantastic (our guy is a linux man).

Download here https://github.com/ahmedbodi/IFCsavings


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 28, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
Format your freakin post like a normal human being and maybe, maybe I'd read it.

Lol, well slightly harsh, I suppose I could get you to define "normal" lol... I don't see anything wrong with centering text personally and I'm not sure why it offends you so much but if you prefer I will adjust it... Just for you... Because I'm nice like that. :)

There you go you happy little bunny! :) lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: CryptoBullion on July 28, 2013, 05:52:47 PM
interesting idea... would be nice get interest on my coins in my wallet... anyone care to test this in VM and report back?



"Things not looking like theyre formatted correctly?? Eat a Snickers "

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7601615616/h4CC00E63/


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 28, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
interesting idea... would be nice get interest on my coins in my wallet... anyone care to test this in VM and report back?



"Things not looking like theyre formatted correctly?? Eat a Snickers "

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7601615616/h4CC00E63/

I'm glad you think so, thanks... We are more than willing to pass any tests that the community deems necessary. There are no sinister intentions here, we just think that it would be at worst a great experiment! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: fisheater on July 28, 2013, 06:57:54 PM
count me in, I'll be your beta tester :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 28, 2013, 07:06:19 PM
count me in, I'll be your beta tester :)

That's great! Thanks, I'll put you to the list and let you know when we are ready to start. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: apbyte on July 28, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
Count me in too!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: GoldBit89 on July 28, 2013, 07:16:31 PM
i would like to try out and help please.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 28, 2013, 07:20:27 PM
Thats brilliant guys! Welcome aboard, you have both been added and you will be contacted when we are ready to go! I'll also update the op of course. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 29, 2013, 07:48:15 AM
Hopefully later today I should have the source code for the wallet, is there anyone that could compile it in windows for me? As soon as I have it I will update the op with a link for it... Also there are still plenty of spaces left if anyone still wants to beta test the site for us. Thanks :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: iampingu on July 29, 2013, 09:47:51 AM
Sure thing. I'll give it a go. Why not!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Rubberduckie on July 29, 2013, 09:58:17 AM
me too :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Kevlar on July 29, 2013, 10:07:31 AM
Count me in!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 29, 2013, 10:08:00 AM
That's great! I'll have all your names added to the list asap, and let you all know when we're ready to go! Look forward to hearing all of your opinions/feedback... We'll be in touch with all of you soon. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: nawazish1 on July 29, 2013, 10:18:46 AM
Add me as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Tamis on July 29, 2013, 10:29:02 AM
Count me in


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: FlungSpun on July 29, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
count me in


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 29, 2013, 11:18:12 AM
Awesome! Glad to have you all aboard! Your names have been added and you will be contacted in due course, also, keep an eye on the thread because I will update it with the new wallet source as soon as I have it. Thanks. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Den821 on July 29, 2013, 03:37:40 PM
count me in too

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Infinitecoins, Infinite Possibilities!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Nordstern on July 29, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
so here i'am!  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: myweblife on July 29, 2013, 04:35:02 PM
I’d  like to try it.

Thanks. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: guaiguai on July 29, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
Count me in too!
 ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: digit on July 29, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
Count me in, this looks interesting :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: glongsword on July 29, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
I'm interested!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 29, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
WOW, thanks a lot guys, love the comments and glad that it is interesting to people! We think this could be something really special and we're glad you are all on board to try it out with us. We are currently doing some preliminary testing with the whole blockchain idea and things are looking really good!

Consider yourselves all signed up, we will be in touch guys, thanks again! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Den821 on July 29, 2013, 08:05:10 PM
WOW, thanks a lot guys, love the comments and glad that it is interesting to people! We think this could be something really special and we're glad you are all on board to try it out with us. We are currently doing some preliminary testing with the whole blockchain idea and things are looking really good!

Consider yourselves all signed up, we will be in touch guys, thanks again! :)

+1


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 29, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
Just updated the OP with the source code for the IFCsavings wallet! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on July 29, 2013, 11:26:12 PM
Looks like we are up to 20 Beta testers already  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: jlong187 on July 30, 2013, 01:53:45 AM
me too :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: rumlazy on July 30, 2013, 01:58:23 AM
I'll try it


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: minus on July 30, 2013, 02:04:17 AM
count me in!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on July 30, 2013, 02:15:23 AM
here is the list of all beta testers  :) > http://www.altcointalk.co.uk/index.php/topic,160.0.html


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: cosmoscoin on July 30, 2013, 06:36:06 AM
I want to take part into the beta test.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: busminer on July 30, 2013, 06:42:02 AM
+1


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 30, 2013, 07:26:29 AM
That is great! I will add your names to the list!... I have someone currently getting the wallet source compiled and I will update the OP with it as soon as I have it... Blockexplorer is nearly finished too so we should be able to install that real soon. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: kelsey on July 30, 2013, 07:40:46 AM
why not  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 30, 2013, 08:32:27 AM
why not  ;D

Why not indeed! Brilliant stuff, this is going to be one lively beta test! I can't wait to hear about all your opinions and feedback... There are some really great things going on behind the scene. If it all plays out it could mean great times ahead for our wonderful crypto world! :) Stay tuned, we'll be in touch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: fulluser on July 30, 2013, 08:59:28 AM
i would like to participate too ,even with more than 10000 ifc if its posible


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Snail2 on July 30, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
Looks interesting. I'd like to try it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 30, 2013, 10:13:58 AM
fulluser... You have some bad rep there, I'm afraid I can't let you be part of the testing phase, sorry about that...

Snail2 Welcome aboard, I will add your name now and we will be in touch in due time. :) Thank you for your interest.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: funnow on July 30, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
+1 for beta testing


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 30, 2013, 10:22:01 AM
+1 for beta testing

Thanks, you are already added to the list. :) You can view the list here... http://www.altcointalk.co.uk/index.php/topic,160.0.html 28 beta testers so far! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: johan11 on July 30, 2013, 06:02:01 PM
Count me in too!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Einewton on July 30, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
I'd love to be a part of this beta test... This looks pretty cool. Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 30, 2013, 06:24:01 PM
Thanks guys! Glad you are liking the idea! :) I think it will be really fun to experiment with and see what happens. I hope you all enjoy it too! We have much more in-store for you folks in the longer term too. :)

I'll add you now and we shall be in touch. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: xTachibana on July 31, 2013, 06:50:14 AM
sure, i have 1m inf coins anyhow (wish we had a calculator to find out how many inf coins i would get per day at 120khash Q>Q)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: hendo420 on July 31, 2013, 06:59:36 AM
Let me be your guinea pig. :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 31, 2013, 07:46:45 AM
I will add both of you to the list right now! Thanks for showing your interest. A calculator is a good idea! We'll add that to the list of things to do ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on July 31, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
sure, i have 1m inf coins anyhow (wish we had a calculator to find out how many inf coins i would get per day at 120khash Q>Q)

if you need to work it out look at the total network hashrate divide it by your hashrate and that's what the odds are of finding a block


right now the networks at 115,734kh so 1,000kh right now would get you 1 in every 116 blocks so you will approx. 6,000,000 ifc a day with 1,000kh


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: tadakaluri on July 31, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
Yes, I am Interested


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 31, 2013, 11:01:04 AM
Yes, I am Interested

That's great, thanks... I will pop your name on the list and get in touch with you as soon as we know when it will start. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: xTachibana on July 31, 2013, 12:43:32 PM
out of curiosity though, is solomining for infinite coins viable with a lowhash rate XD?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 31, 2013, 12:53:02 PM
out of curiosity though, is solomining for infinite coins viable with a lowhash rate XD?

Currently I would say no... Of course it depends on how you define "low" but I'm guessing it is sub 1000 kh/s. If that is the case then probably not... There is a good pool here though https://ifc.epools.org/


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: nawazish1 on July 31, 2013, 10:03:19 PM
So there is no windows at the moment. Let me know when it will be available.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 31, 2013, 10:41:04 PM
So there is no windows at the moment. Let me know when it will be available.

We have one that you can try if you like, it is proving a little fiddly to get right... But we do have it working... I have my standard infinitecoin wallet and the IFCsavings wallet running at the same time... We are currently debating on how we go about this... Maybe you guys can help...

When you run the qt it creates a folder in your roaming directory... Well when we run the qt the whole blockchain doesn't download for some reason... Now zack has found a way to get the blockchain in with the client download... All you have to do is unpack the whole folder into a folder called IFCsavings in your roaming directory... You will have to make the IFCsavings folder.

What do you guys think about that? I can tell you that it does indeed work and you don't have to wait for the blockchain to download.

EDIT: The wallet is only altered so that we can have 2 working wallets on one PC, to do this Ahmed Bodiwala changed some directories and he has also changed the name of the wallet so you know which is which... The raw files that are in the OP were then compiled by fisheater and zack added the blockchain and got it working in windows...

If anyone would like to try it out we have a guide for you and will help you out here if you get stuck.

Any questions please ask. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on July 31, 2013, 10:48:17 PM
if you need more info about the download feel free to contact me  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: xTachibana on July 31, 2013, 11:34:54 PM
when is this thing starting anyhow? i dont see a download for the savings wallet


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on July 31, 2013, 11:37:43 PM
when is this thing starting anyhow? i dont see a download for the savings wallet

There is a link to the source code in the OP, but that was compiled for linux... We have a working windows wallet if you would like to try it...

As stated in the OP the actual beta test will be starting within the next couple of weeks...  We are working very hard on it and as soon as it is ready you will be contacted.

In the meantime would you like to try the wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: xTachibana on August 01, 2013, 12:07:55 AM
why not :O i just hope it isnt totally broken XD


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 01, 2013, 12:21:05 AM
why not :O i just hope it isnt totally broken XD

It isn't broken at all, it works fine but we still have to be careful. Like I have siad, I have it on my PC right now and it is working just fine, so has zack and another member of the team.

If you would like to be another guinie pig then we would be happy for you to help us with testing. Please bare with me while I get the link for you...

brb


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 01, 2013, 12:38:36 AM
At this link you will find a link to the wallet and a guide but we will be there to help you if needed... http://www.altcointalk.co.uk/index.php/topic,177.new.html#new

Hope to see you there soon :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: xTachibana on August 01, 2013, 03:21:11 AM
its downloaded, now what :O


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 01, 2013, 08:48:39 AM
its downloaded, now what :O

Sorry, I'm in the UK so it was gone 2 am when I fell asleep lol...

There is a guide on the link I gave you...

You have to navigate to the appdata/roaming folder... You can do this on windows 7 by pressing start, then typing %appdata% into the search box. You should see the roaming folder. Click on that then right click and select new. Then select folder. Name the folder IFCsavings.

Now just unpack the download and place the contents into the IFCsavings folder you just made.

You can now make a shortcut of the ifcsavings-qt.exe and place that on your desktop.

Click it and it should sync and you now have your second wallet installed...

Do NOT touch your infinitecoin folder in the roaming directory.

Let me know how you get on. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Snail2 on August 01, 2013, 11:47:00 AM
OK. Installed the IFCsavings wallet, it synced in order. My original IFC wallet looks OK too. Could you tell me please what's the next step? Should I transfer some coins from IFC wallet to IFCsavings wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 01, 2013, 11:59:58 AM
OK. Installed the IFCsavings wallet, it synced in order. My original IFC wallet looks OK too. Could you tell me please what's the next step? Should I transfer some coins from IFC wallet to IFCsavings wallet?

thanks for testing it you will all need it for the beta test of altcoinsavings.com


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 01, 2013, 12:00:56 PM
I will be available on the altcointalk chatbox if anyone wants to talk about the wallet or the project :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Snail2 on August 01, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
thanks for testing it you will all need it for the beta test of altcoinsavings.com

Thanks. When the beta test will start?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 01, 2013, 12:14:06 PM
thanks for testing it you will all need it for the beta test of altcoinsavings.com

Thanks. When the beta test will start?

As soon as the final touches on the website have been done so not to long :)


Does anyone have any feed back on the wallet file I put together ?

thanks

zack


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Sting17 on August 01, 2013, 12:52:20 PM
If you are still after beta tested id be happy to help out. This idea seems very interesting, especially its execution.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 01, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
If you are still after beta tested id be happy to help out. This idea seems very interesting, especially its execution.

Hi, glad you like the idea, we'd be happy to have you on board for the beta test, I'll pop your name down and we'll be in touch when we are ready to go. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: datguyian on August 01, 2013, 07:30:29 PM
I'll try it out.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 01, 2013, 08:39:00 PM
I'll try it out.

Great, I'll put your name down and we'll be in touch soon as we're ready! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: myweblife on August 02, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
try to send 10000IFC to my IFCsavings wallet.It looks fine :)

IFCsavings address:
iE4CWuxDbqR72CyqdJ3ir9kzGkMYmEDek1


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:41:13 AM
try to send 10000IFC to my IFCsavings wallet.It looks fine :)

IFCsavings address:
iE4CWuxDbqR72CyqdJ3ir9kzGkMYmEDek1

Yeah that looks great, thanks for trying it out for us. You can keep it like that for the beta... Or if you want to further test it can you try to create a new address and then send a further 10000, without removing the original 10000. I would like to see how that effects the blockchain explorer. Thanks :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: myweblife on August 02, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
try to send 10000IFC to my IFCsavings wallet.It looks fine :)

IFCsavings address:
iE4CWuxDbqR72CyqdJ3ir9kzGkMYmEDek1

Yeah that looks great, thanks for trying it out for us. You can keep it like that for the beta... Or if you want to further test it can you try to create a new address and then send a further 10000, without removing the original 10000. I would like to see how that effects the blockchain explorer. Thanks :)

Status: 1/unconfirmed
Date: 2013/8/2 19:34
From: unknown
To: iLFDvi1Wv9EVXRQjX5jCXWRJmdV3vVsrMP (own address, label: test)
Credit: 10000.00 IFC
Net amount: +10000.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 40b18b2fec3dc73a4122a9e39b102ccf807a875b7284be49159be1fda532b6d1


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: johan11 on August 02, 2013, 12:03:51 PM

I also sent from IFC to IFCsaving and everything works.

Status: 265 potvrzení
Date: 2.8.2013 12:49
From: neznámo
To: iJ3QzPBmLLcjWvfSD1vjAiWzgrK6mCyaY7 (own address)
Credit: 11111.00 IFC
Net amount: +11111.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 172b017dcc773dfa7d8f3ee1b01960d24413e5631bc699424a4120a593469995


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 02, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
Update: right now I am working on getting the wallet updated to the newest QT.exe and making it all easy to install and use for new users :)

thanks

zack


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 03:09:47 PM
sorry guys snaz wants me off the team >

Quote
I have got to say that over the past few days I have become increasingly unhappy with the way things have been going and the way you have been acting. It has been eating away at me so I am laying my cards on the table now...

Your message about taking over fisheaters coin has got me very concerned about working with you at all... Stealing peoples ideas and passing them off as my own is not what I am about. What is to stop you thinking the same about me and my idea? For all I know you probably are. You are certainly acting like it and I can tell you now that it will not be happening.

This whole thing is my idea zack, I allowed you on board and even had to convince you and I feel that you actually think it is now yours... It is not... The more I think about it the more I can not bring myself to work with you.

I have tried to remedy things with you but it isn't working for me at all...

I will be shutting down the project until further notice, I will be leaving a notice about this on the beta test thread on bitcointalk, in due time.

For good will I am holding off from doing that until I get a response from you...

What I want is the website moved to a server of my choosing, don't worry I will pay ahmed and threeip in full when the website is completed, as per their arrangement. I will also refund you your half of the domain name.

This is your chance to remedy the situation

I had no plans to take the project I have just been working very hard to get the wallet all running properly .

I cannot work with someone like this

snaz if you tell me were you want the domains and all the webfiles I will send it all over

if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever

you will have to pay the devs for the work they have done

all parts of my forum that are for project infinite will be saved and sent to you then deleted

thanks

zack

That's exactly what I said I would do minus the server costs... I will happily pay that too.

I will be in touch when I have found a suitable server.



To all the beta testers...

Some very questionable things have transpired and so I have had to put the project on hold until i reorganize things. Do not worry, altcoinsavings will still be up and running soon.

When I started project infinite I saw a way to promote a coin and to offer some pretty exciting services to the crypto community... I feel it was going off track, a lot... I want to work with fisheater and compliment his coin rather than "take it over".

As soon as the website is switched and I have it completed it, I will let you know...

In the meantime i will keep you informed with any updates here.

Thank you to everyone that is supporting the project.



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 03:11:31 PM
sorry guys snaz wants me off the team >

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I have got to say that over the past few days I have become increasingly unhappy with the way things have been going and the way you have been acting. It has been eating away at me so I am laying my cards on the table now...

Your message about taking over fisheaters coin has got me very concerned about working with you at all... Stealing peoples ideas and passing them off as my own is not what I am about. What is to stop you thinking the same about me and my idea? For all I know you probably are. You are certainly acting like it and I can tell you now that it will not be happening.

This whole thing is my idea zack, I allowed you on board and even had to convince you and I feel that you actually think it is now yours... It is not... The more I think about it the more I can not bring myself to work with you.

I have tried to remedy things with you but it isn't working for me at all...

I will be shutting down the project until further notice, I will be leaving a notice about this on the beta test thread on bitcointalk, in due time.

For good will I am holding off from doing that until I get a response from you...

What I want is the website moved to a server of my choosing, don't worry I will pay ahmed and threeip in full when the website is completed, as per their arrangement. I will also refund you your half of the domain name.

This is your chance to remedy the situation

I had no plans to take the project I have just been working very hard to get the wallet all running properly .

I cannot work with someone like this

snaz if you tell me were you want the domains and all the webfiles I will send it all over

if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever

you will have to pay the devs for the work they have done

all parts of my forum that are for project infinite will be saved and sent to you then deleted

thanks

zack

It is really bad to see this project ending like this :(. I hope you guys sort this out. :)

Not to worry, nothing is ending. :) This had to happen unfortunately.

But life goes on and so will altcoinsavings. It may take me a little while to get everything set up again but I will let everyone know asap.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
snaz I have tried contacting you every way I can why have you kicked me of the team I have done nothing wrong

You have sent me a PM zack and I have replied to you, why you wish to continue to drag this out in public I do not know... The PM that I sent you and you published here says all I have to say... I am not like that and I don't want the project being used for that.

I have tried to be as reasonable as I can.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 04:34:01 PM
snaz I have tried contacting you every way I can why have you kicked me of the team I have done nothing wrong

You have sent me a PM zack and I have replied to you, why you wish to continue to drag this out in public I do not know... The PM that I sent you and you published here says all I have to say... I am not like that and I don't want the project being used for that.

I have tried to be as reasonable as I can.

the project used for what ?
what have I done ?
whats the problem?
why have you deleted all posts that state we went in 50/50 ?
why have you stoped replying to my messages ?
why did you plan this all?  ( you have a whole new dev team in less than 1h  )
how much are you going to buy my 50% for ?
why are you making it look like it was me that stole the project ?  ( who just took 50% from who )

I will be applying for a scammer tag for you
you are no longer welcome on my forum


You are ridiculous zack... I have not removed ANY posts in fact you did zack, the whole threads in fact... No bother though I saved it all... And just for the record here is the PM where you state you have taken IFC from the developers...

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think about it the only visible difference between say IFC and pxc if the logo and the wallet name  just saying here we have to do this the right way  we can eventually change what we want but we have to work on the old saying

slowly slowly catchy monkey

nobody sees this yet but we have taken ifc from the devs not even fisheater sees it yet

( between us we are the biggest shareholder we are doing the projects we have even changed the wallet )

I am just saying here if this project f**Ks up IFC if dead we are all ifc has going for it right now

I am not trying to be negative here I just saying it how it is   

Just saying it how it is huh... Well no it isn't actually zack! The worst bit is fisheater was actually coming and helping us out! He even compiled the wallet for us but this is what you really think, isn't it?

Like I told you, I am not about that, I wanted to work with fisheater and I appreciated his help...

You have done wrong zack...



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 05:01:24 PM
what the hell are you on you are taking this out of context I have no plans to take the coin what would I gain by doing that ?



You didn't have plans to do it, you thought you already had...

I'm not getting into this argument, it is pointless...

I have requested the transfer information on the domain and I ask you again (as you haven't answered via PM... How do you want the payment... £12.50 for the domains and say 6 for the hosting?

I can send the £18.50 via bank transfer or via coins, whichever way you like.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
I am not doing anything until we have talked like human beings about this

fact you have done all this before even asking me if there was a mistake in the message

fact you are the one that wanted to change the ifc wallet logo

fact you I wouldn't let you change the wallet to much as that's what gives ifc its identity

fact you are bending the troth to make me look bad


if anyone here would like any proof just tell me what you want and I will do it :)

anyone have a lie detector ?  lol

I PM'ed you before doing anything... You even posted it on here zack...

So basically you are holding my project hostage until "we have spoken like human beings"?

I have been as amicable about this as I can, I gave you a chance to reply and instead you post it here... Not that it bothers me but that is hardly the way to go about things...

I don't see anything left to be said...

The wallet for altcoinsavings is and has always been an additional wallet client zack... No changes would have been made to the logo, only an "S" would have been added into the corner to identify it as the savings wallet...

The only reason you didn't want to do it is because for some reason you thought it was too sly and then people would know you aimed to steal the coin... Even though I told you I would discuss it with fisheater...

You are gaining nothing from this zack. Just give me back my website and project like you promised here! Or are you going back on that now?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 05:28:55 PM
your site your project it was your basic idea but I put hundreds of hours of work into it and I will say it again I don't want to take ifc from the dev I have no plans to have and have never tried  

I am seeking legal advice about it even though there was no contract I believe there would still be a case against you !!!

As you clearly admit it is my project and my site and my idea can you please just give it back to me!? You are more than welcome to seek legal advice if you believe you have a claim. Holding my website and project hostage is again, not the way to go about things! I allowed the site to be hosted on your server out of good faith, but this is what I get?



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 05:40:01 PM
I also joined the team out of good faith but look were that got me


so what was my 50% of the project ? legaly you cant just take it from me

You can't just be part of the project and then think that you can take it over and start taking peoples coins from them... That is not the way I work... You have ruined this project for me... It was a very interesting and fresh idea but you have done your upmost to sabotage it. I can't believe you think you still have a claim on it! You have no claim on MY project, I wrote every bit of text on that site, which part is yours? I have all the original documents plus the e-mails where I sent it to the web builder...

Let me try again, are you going to give me my site back as promised or not?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 05:53:42 PM
I also joined the team out of good faith but look were that got me


so what was my 50% of the project ? legaly you cant just take it from me

You can't just be part of the project and then think that you can take it over and start taking peoples coins from them... That is not the way I work... You have ruined this project for me... It was a very interesting and fresh idea but you have done your upmost to sabotage it. I can't believe you think you still have a claim on it! You have no claim on MY project, I wrote every bit of text on that site, which part is yours? I have all the original documents plus the e-mails where I sent it to the web builder...

Let me try again, are you going to give me my site back as promised or not?

you know full well that it was a 50/50 agreement just because you wrote the text for the website dosent make it yours if it is your project why did I have to pay half of the domain cost and half the dev cost

legally speaking that means I own 50% stake in the project so unless we both agree I still own halve of it so make me a good offer and its yours as far as I am concerned my share is worth over 25BTC minimum as I have put in over 200h of work its up to you how you want to do this

so do you want to talk like a human yet ? I suggest a  thread on bitcointalk in the off topic section :)

You are completely out of your mind! The text on the website is not the only thing I did... You have already said that it was my idea and my project and my website yet you talk about 50/50 cos we split the domain name costs? lol We have split nothing for hosting and no money has been paid to any developer yet... The only thing you currently own is half of the domain name!

You even said you would give it back if I pay up your half... That is a contract, but now you are showing your true colours yet again... Maybe it is me who should approach the mods!



EDIT: In your post you said this zack...

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if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever"

Even if you THINK you have 50% share you have told me what you want for that 50% already! Now you come up with some ridiculous 25 bTC...

You are a very bad businessman zack... I hope people here can see you for what you are!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 06:07:46 PM
I also joined the team out of good faith but look were that got me


so what was my 50% of the project ? legaly you cant just take it from me

You can't just be part of the project and then think that you can take it over and start taking peoples coins from them... That is not the way I work... You have ruined this project for me... It was a very interesting and fresh idea but you have done your upmost to sabotage it. I can't believe you think you still have a claim on it! You have no claim on MY project, I wrote every bit of text on that site, which part is yours? I have all the original documents plus the e-mails where I sent it to the web builder...

Let me try again, are you going to give me my site back as promised or not?

you know full well that it was a 50/50 agreement just because you wrote the text for the website dosent make it yours if it is your project why did I have to pay half of the domain cost and half the dev cost

legally speaking that means I own 50% stake in the project so unless we both agree I still own halve of it so make me a good offer and its yours as far as I am concerned my share is worth over 25BTC minimum as I have put in over 200h of work its up to you how you want to do this

so do you want to talk like a human yet ? I suggest a  thread on bitcointalk in the off topic section :)

You are completely out of your mind! The text on the website is not the only thing I did... You have already said that it was my idea and my project and my website yet you talk about 50/50 cos we split the domain name costs? lol We have split nothing for hosting and no money has been paid to any developer yet... The only thing you currently own is half of the domain name!

You even said you would give it back if I pay up your half... That is a contract, but now you are showing your true colours yet again... Maybe it is me who should approach the mods!



EDIT: In your post you said this zack...

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if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever"

Even if you THINK you have 50% share you have told me what you want for that 50% already! Now you come up with some ridiculous 25 bTC...

You are a very bad businessman zack... I hope people here can see you for what you are!

my 50% includes all I have done for the project if it all is how you say it is that just proves you were using me for my contacts and sponging sever space

I have a 50% share deal with it let me know when you are ready to talk about this like civilised human beings

Zack you did not put in 100's of hours or use any of your contacts... This is beyond a joke now... You are trying to steal my website and my ideas! this is a very low thing to do... No wonder you wanted the website on your server so bad... So you could hold it hostage whenever you like! This is not on! Where is the work to show for this hundreds of hours? Which bit did you do? Nothing zack!

I have nothing more to say to you... I am putting in a scammer request to the mods and we'll let them sort it out from here! Or you can do the right thing and give me back what you openly admit is mine!



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 06:32:20 PM
please do request a scammer lol I would like to see the outcome is lol

what is you problem ? 

I have... My problem is that you are trying to steal my idea zack, you are trying to steal my website too... You have admitted it is my idea, my project my website and you have asked for your half of the domain costs back and I agreed a long time ago... I have asked you how you want the payment but you do not answer.. I have asked you what you did for those "100's" of hours but you do not answer...

Are you going to give me back my website or not? You are only hurting the community by doing this... There are lots of people waiting to beta test my idea and you are holding all of them back by continuing this non-sense! You had a great opportunity to be part of something fresh but you blew it! This is not my fault zack!

Are you giving back my website or not?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
please do request a scammer lol I would like to see the outcome is lol

what is you problem ? 

I have... My problem is that you are trying to steal my idea zack, you are trying to steal my website too... You have admitted it is my idea, my project my website and you have asked for your half of the domain costs back and I agreed a long time ago... I have asked you how you want the payment but you do not answer.. I have asked you what you did for those "100's" of hours but you do not answer...

Are you going to give me back my website or not? You are only hurting the community by doing this... There are lots of people waiting to beta test my idea and you are holding all of them back by continuing this non-sense! You had a great opportunity to be part of something fresh but you blew it! This is not my fault zack!

Are you giving back my website or not?

I have no way of moving the domains in the next 20 odd days as the hosting company only allows it once every 30 days so even if I wanted to do it I cant unless you want to pay the crazy fees

it might be your idea and until you pay threeip the website is his  so I cant give you it as its not my site to give

right now you are just making your self look like an ass all you had to do was talk to me like a human being and not go behind my back

You bought the domain through your hosting company, I would like to see proof that you can not move it please!

Paying threeip is between me and threeip.. It is not threeip's website, he is getting paid to do it and he will be paid to do it!

I think you have it the wrong way round zack! I came to you FIRST via private message... You even posted it here for all to see! It was you that went behind my back to post it here! But that is exactly how crazy you are... You just can't see the wood for the trees!

You had a chance to sort this out the right way but you thought you would try to harm me and altcoinsavings by posting here. The funny thing is though you only harmed yourself... Now everyone knows what you are doing and what you had planned...

Why not just show people that you can actually do the right thing and give me back my website like you promised you would! If you think you have a claim then take me to court and we'll see... But until then you can not just hold onto my site and my work!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
please do request a scammer lol I would like to see the outcome is lol

what is you problem ? 

I have... My problem is that you are trying to steal my idea zack, you are trying to steal my website too... You have admitted it is my idea, my project my website and you have asked for your half of the domain costs back and I agreed a long time ago... I have asked you how you want the payment but you do not answer.. I have asked you what you did for those "100's" of hours but you do not answer...

Are you going to give me back my website or not? You are only hurting the community by doing this... There are lots of people waiting to beta test my idea and you are holding all of them back by continuing this non-sense! You had a great opportunity to be part of something fresh but you blew it! This is not my fault zack!

Are you giving back my website or not?

I have no way of moving the domains in the next 20 odd days as the hosting company only allows it once every 30 days so even if I wanted to do it I cant unless you want to pay the crazy fees

it might be your idea and until you pay threeip the website is his  so I cant give you it as its not my site to give

right now you are just making your self look like an ass all you had to do was talk to me like a human being and not go behind my back

You bought the domain through your hosting company, I would like to see proof that you can not move it please!

Paying threeip is between me and threeip.. It is not threeip's website, he is getting paid to do it and he will be paid to do it!

I think you have it the wrong way round zack! I came to you FIRST via private message... You even posted it here for all to see! It was you that went behind my back to post it here! But that is exactly how crazy you are... You just can't see the wood for the trees!

You had a chance to sort this out the right way but you thought you would try to harm me and altcoinsavings by posting here. The funny thing is though you only harmed yourself... Now everyone knows what you are doing and what you had planned...

Why not just show people that you can actually do the right thing and give me back my website like you promised you would! If you think you have a claim then take me to court and we'll see... But until then you can not just hold onto my site and my work!

I will take snips of the fact I cant move the domains but just google 1and1 not releceing domains lol

what I had planed was to run a really good savings website and have a 50% stake in a really good project then you tell me to have a day of the project then you do this

Please do, thank you...

See what i mean, what you had planned was to run a really good savings website? This is not yours zack, you might think it is but that doesn't make it so... The whole idea was mine to begin with! I have proof of the hours I put in, do you? I will ask you for a third time... What did you do zack?

What you said and what you did grated on me for a long time, even my partner knew something was wrong! I tried to sort things. I asked you to have a sleep and call me on skype but you basically told me where to go. I told you that i am not about stealing someone's coin...

I tried to message you and you go ahead and post it on here... That was your remedy?



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:16:07 PM
here is some posts from the forum >

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Einewton or zack do you want to have a go trying to put something together with these tickers... I'm sure if we use some of the code from the calender type ticker and some from the last ticker we can get what we want... I have tried but to no avail lol...

Here is the download page for the calender ticker...

http://tutorialzine.com/2012/09/count-up-jquery/

Here is the sourcecode for the other ticker...

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2540277/jquery-counter-to-count-up-to-a-target-number

Now I don't know about the license for the first one but the second one he says you can use it, so that's cool... Also to note that the second one will stop when it reaches 20000 (The end of the contract term)...

When someone selects the contract we will know the timeframe, that would then have to be converted to milliseconds and the data be available to the ticker... We could simply predefine this? As the contract terms are for set lengths.

Then what we need is something that can work out what the total will be after the timeperiod...

We also need the starting point and that is easy because the user will enter that.

So for the beta it will be

10,000 deposit 20,000 total over 86400000 Milli-Seconds

EDIT: The above is assuming we used the second ticker for doing the calc... Maybe there is an easier way... But thought we could look at it anyway.

EDIT: Just reading another post and saw about the MIT licence, the first ticker is under MIT licence so we can use it as we wish. :)Modify message
« Last Edit: Today at 01:00:09 PM by snaz32 »


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Sent to: zackclark70 on: Today at 03:04:38 PM »
« You have forwarded or responded to this message. » Reply Quote Delete  I have got to say that over the past few days I have become increasingly unhappy with the way things have been going and the way you have been acting. It has been eating away at me so I am laying my cards on the table now...

Your message about taking over fisheaters coin has got me very concerned about working with you at all... Stealing peoples ideas and passing them off as my own is not what I am about. What is to stop you thinking the same about me and my idea? For all I know you probably are. You are certainly acting like it and I can tell you now that it will not be happening.

This whole thing is my idea zack, I allowed you on board and even had to convince you and I feel that you actually think it is now yours... It is not... The more I think about it the more I can not bring myself to work with you.

I have tried to remedy things with you but it isn't working for me at all...

I will be shutting down the project until further notice, I will be leaving a notice about this on the beta test thread on bitcointalk, in due time.

For good will I am holding off from doing that until I get a response from you...

What I want is the website moved to a server of my choosing, don't worry I will pay ahmed and threeip in full when the website is completed, as per their arrangement. I will also refund you your half of the domain name.

This is your chance to remedy the situation.


look at the time stamps what changed in that time ? I had no contact with you

Yes I made many attempts to sort it out, I tried to continue, but even all these efforts were in vain! You left me no choice zack... But regardless, I can not work with someone that thinks like that, I thought maybe it was your lack of sleep ( I even made excuses for you to myself)... But things just continued... There was nothing else I could do...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
just looked back altcoinsaveings domain was my idea so going by your logic its my domain because it was my idea I will refund the coins you sent me for half the domains

you deleted me on Skype how could I have called you ?

Nope it was a joint decision but hey if you want to be so petty you can take the name and refund the coins, no problem... (see how easy it is?)... Now, will you give me back my website? You can deduct 6 pounds from what you owe me for the domain to go for the server costs....


I have not and did not "delete you from skype"...

Look just sort this out and we can move on! You are holding everybody back for no reason! I have agreed to YOUR terms a long time ago yet you still haven't come through..


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:24:38 PM
can you conferm this is your ifc address  iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5
       

Before I confirm anything I would like to know when you are giving back my website... When you give me back the website we can sort out the domain... Why you would want to keep it is beyond me!

Unless you aim to continue with my idea, which would just prove me right ( as if there isn't enough already!)                                    


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
all threeip has to do is reupload the website that's it



That is fine, but I would like the files please... Thanks...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
all threeip has to do is reupload the website that's it



That is fine, but I would like the files please... Thanks...

I have pmd you a download link


The link does not work, I just get a 404 error message, can you check it please, thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
it works

Yes, it has worked now, thanks... And yes that is my address but why do you want the domain? All the beta testers know the name of the website... Why are you doing that to them and me? Is it out of spite? I will happily pay your half of all the domains as soon as I receive them. You have plenty of time to think about it...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: TECSHARE on August 02, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
please do request a scammer lol I would like to see the outcome is lol

what is you problem ? 

I have... My problem is that you are trying to steal my idea zack, you are trying to steal my website too... You have admitted it is my idea, my project my website and you have asked for your half of the domain costs back and I agreed a long time ago... I have asked you how you want the payment but you do not answer.. I have asked you what you did for those "100's" of hours but you do not answer...

Are you going to give me back my website or not? You are only hurting the community by doing this... There are lots of people waiting to beta test my idea and you are holding all of them back by continuing this non-sense! You had a great opportunity to be part of something fresh but you blew it! This is not my fault zack!

Are you giving back my website or not?

He can't come up with his own ideas. He tried to do this to me as well. He saw a thread in which I was offering withdraw services from BTC-e and decided it would be a good idea to chase after the same 2 nickels as me rather than come up with his own idea. He basically then came to my thread and started attempting to make people think I was a scammer. This guy thinks he is slick. He is not.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:55:17 PM
please do request a scammer lol I would like to see the outcome is lol

what is you problem ? 

I have... My problem is that you are trying to steal my idea zack, you are trying to steal my website too... You have admitted it is my idea, my project my website and you have asked for your half of the domain costs back and I agreed a long time ago... I have asked you how you want the payment but you do not answer.. I have asked you what you did for those "100's" of hours but you do not answer...

Are you going to give me back my website or not? You are only hurting the community by doing this... There are lots of people waiting to beta test my idea and you are holding all of them back by continuing this non-sense! You had a great opportunity to be part of something fresh but you blew it! This is not my fault zack!

Are you giving back my website or not?

He can't come up with his own ideas. He tried to do this to me as well. He saw a thread in which I was offering withdraw services from BTC-e and decided it would be a good idea to chase after the same 2 nickels as me rather than come up with his own idea. He basically then came to my thread and started attempting to make people think I was a scammer. This guy thinks he is slick. He is not.

It's a real shame! I tried to do something good but it seems that is not enough... Oh well, I have my site back now and I will get to work on having it uploaded and hopefully he has the decency to give me the domain back too...

Thanks for the comment. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 07:56:56 PM
i'll try it out i already have been mining IFC for weeks..

Hey, not sure if you have seen all the goings on but don't worry things will be going ahead, even if a little later than expected. I will add your name to the list. Thank you for your interest... Can't wait to have everything up and running for you guys to try out! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 08:06:01 PM
Marvel at your endurance and patience, Snaz ... In the future, you just have to find a better partner before starting any joint projects...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:12:55 PM
Marvel at your endurance and patience, Snaz ... In the future, you just have to find a better partner before starting any joint projects...

Believe me, i will be learning from my mistakes... i am a trusting kinda guy, I like to see the good in people and give everyone their chance... It might not be the right way to go in light of all this but that is just a shame... It is true what they say, the few spoil it for the many...

Thanks for your comment, just glad it finally came to some sort of a resolution, although the domain is still up in the air, hopefully zack will do the right thing there too...

Onwards and upwards though. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 08:26:34 PM
although the domain is still up in the air, hopefully zack will do the right thing there too...

I doubt very much ...
But it is full of other domain names ...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:29:03 PM
Marvel at your endurance and patience, Snaz ... In the future, you just have to find a better partner before starting any joint projects...

Believe me, i will be learning from my mistakes... i am a trusting kinda guy, I like to see the good in people and give everyone their chance... It might not be the right way to go in light of all this but that is just a shame... It is true what they say, the few spoil it for the many...

Thanks for your comment, just glad it finally came to some sort of a resolution, although the domain is still up in the air, hopefully zack will do the right thing there too...

Onwards and upwards though. :)


just realised it the day you said you would have a load of money to invest in the project lol I still don't get why you kicked me of the team when I have done nothing wrong



Really I can't believe you want to continue this... yes I said from the very beginning that I would invest more money into the project and i would buy up some more IFC's... That day has still not come unfortunately... I fail to see what it has to do with anything?

On to the subject of the domain... Are you going to give it back to me?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Den821 on August 02, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
hi snaz, i hope this project will go on without manipulations. i know you have the idea just from the beginning. i followed the ifc ann thread. i think a new domain-name is not a bad idea because this name is tarnished.
i think there are many motivated beta tester who still would join the project.
i vote for : GO ON WITH THE PROJECT!! its really a good idea to promote infinitecoin and to make infinitecoin stable



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:32:53 PM
although the domain is still up in the air, hopefully zack will do the right thing there too...

I doubt very much ...
But it is full of other domain names ...

That is true of course but he still owes me for half the costs if he is going to keep them, can't for the life of me see why he would but there you go...

Most of the project infinite discussion has been going on at zacks forum, obviously that will not be the case anymore... Do you think I should continue here or make a new thread separately?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
hi snaz, i hope this project will go on without manipulations. i know you have the idea just from the beginning. i followed the thread. i think a new domain-name is not a bad idea because this name is tarnished.
i think there are many beta tester who still would join the project.
i vote for : GO ON WITH THE PROJECT!! its really a good idea promote infinitecoin and make infinitecoin stable



Hey Den, it's crazy what goes on but it is what it is... We have to move on. I vote with you, ON WITH THE PROJECT. :)

I will need a day or two to have the website re-uploaded, I will have a go at that tonight... As for the domain name, I think you're right! A fresh start and all that... Good idea... How about we have a little competition to celebrate the fresh start...

All beta testers who wish to, can make a suggestion on the domain name, the suggestions time will finish this time tomorrow. When we have all the suggestions we will have a vote on which one we like the most. I want you guys to be involved, so have fun and put forward your choice now. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
why is everyone supporting snaz ?

pop over to altcointalk.co.uk and I will post up the complete chat logs message logs and project infinite posts then you will see it from my point of view in 5 mins they should be up  

Zack, give it a rest, you are being ridiculous... It is clear as day what happened, you still can't even give me a straight answer on the domain... And I still have not received my money back from you for it! More broken promises from you! Go ahead and post what you like, everyone has already seen what went down.

If you don't mind, as I am not welcome on your forum could you please stop spamming my thread, thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 08:47:17 PM
I think here ...
I am pleased to push you the infinitecoin.net domain without any fee. So you can build a coin savings idea, on the 3th domains level... and any other ideas, too


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 08:53:17 PM
I think here ...
I am pleased to push you the infinitecoin.net domain without any fee. So you can build a coin savings idea, on the 3th domains level... and any other ideas, too

Oh yeah, you're the guy that made infinitecoin.net! I like that site too, very nice, I especially like the number tickers on there... May I ask, did you make that site yourself? It would be interesting to collaborate on some ideas! There are plenty of other things I have in store, as I have always said, altcoinsavings (to be re-named) was always the first step. ;)

EDIT: And thank you for your kind offer, it is great to see how the community comes together in a time of need. :)
 


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Den821 on August 02, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
i like ifcsavings.com especially to promote and stable infinitecoin.
later you can use/register a general domain for more altcoins.
but for first we should concentrate on ifc


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 09:02:59 PM
i like ifcsavings.com especially to promote and stable infinitecoin.
later you can use/register a general domain for more altcoins.
but for first we should concentrate on ifc

I like it! (and it goes with the savings wallet name) It makes a whole lot of sense for me. :)

What do the rest of you guys think? I would love for you all to have your say. We're in this together (DISCLAIMER: please do not take this as meaning you have 50% stake in my idea, project and website! LOL)

Seriously though, i would love your input. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
I made it youself, but it is a simple html page.
For larger projects, I'm no good. Too little time, and I'm not a full programmer, but I can deal with typo & php.

But then again, everything depends on time.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 09:14:38 PM
I made it youself, but it is a simple html page.
For larger projects, I'm no good. Too little time, and I'm not a full programmer, but I can deal with typo & php.

But then again, everything depends on time.

Yeah I understand, time is tight. I still like your site regardless, the graphs are pretty cool too. :)

I do have a guy working on the site but he has been away for a few days, I think he is actually due back tomorrow so we can get back to work then.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
Zack, I still do not see my money for the domain? So you are just stealing that then I take it? Nice work there.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 02, 2013, 09:36:14 PM
regardless of what happened i reckon i have to say im leaving the project. my deal was with zack and zack only on working on project infinite. If you'd like me to continue and would like my share of the work then we can come to a seperate deal. I also believe threeip should get his view on what is going on when he gets back


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 02, 2013, 09:38:37 PM
im inclined to side with zack seeing as while reading through the threads i myself say einstein or whatver his name is taking over mine and threeip's work, i myself will request zack to return your fair share of work but withold all of threeip's work until he gets back to respond and to decide what he would like to do


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 09:47:12 PM
regardless of what happened i reckon i have to say im leaving the project. my deal was with zack and zack only on working on project infinite. If you'd like me to continue and would like my share of the work then we can come to a seperate deal. I also believe threeip should get his view on what is going on when he gets back

Sorry ahmed I was about to contact you... I have contacted threeip and I think you're right he of course can have his say...

As for the deal, zack didn't want to pay you anything, that was the deal you had with him... He wanted to offer advertising... It was me that said you can have the same as threeip because I thought that only fair... Not saying that to argue but that is the case...

I can understand you being upset and if you want to leave the project I understand that too... Sorry it had to happen like this but I had no choice.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 09:51:41 PM
im inclined to side with zack seeing as while reading through the threads i myself say einstein or whatver his name is taking over mine and threeip's work, i myself will request zack to return your fair share of work but withold all of threeip's work until he gets back to respond and to decide what he would like to do

That is your choice, I am a little upset that you think like that but hey it is your choice... Whatever help I got I always said you and threeip would get your 3 BTC each... I have no problem with that... I get that you are angry but I can hand on heart say that I would of looked after yourself and threeip... If someone else helped with the work it would just make life easier for you no?

I will say that I thought things were going a little slower than I had hoped, that is why I asked for more help.

EDIT:I also knew you were busy with your other projects, but that didn't really help me, I wanted things to move faster. Zack told me how you would sit on cryptsy for 4 hours a day (like it mattered). Please, be careful....

EDIT: And just to note also the original quote from threeip was for 2 BTC... I upped it to 3 BTC because I was very happy with what he was doing! I think it was only fair that you got the same so I offered you 3 BTC too... Yet I am the bad guy?... Disappointed ahmed...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 10:28:19 PM
I have talked to ahmed and I will be paying him as the contract was with me even if the code he has done is no use to me might still do the block explorer


Still here spamming my thread? It was me that offered him the 3 BTC, but zack if you want to pay him you go right ahead... How about you pay me the money for the domain? You know, like you promised?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
I sent it to the address I asked you to conferm why tell me you stop spaming you thread then ask me a question lol

you realy think I want to may the devs I agreyed to pay halve so I will I am not a scammer

Yeah, sure you did zack, sure you did... You are coming in regardless of what I do or say and you don't answer my questions half the time anyway... Can't say I can understand much of that last sentence.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark700 on August 02, 2013, 10:44:11 PM
We can finally get zackclark70 a scammer tag please help me by posting here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=257950.msg2750278#msg2750278


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 02, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
i see. well as i said, i still believe what i believe, the main reason work stalled was for 2 reasons

1) threeip isnt here and to continue i need to colaborate with him on the database for the address data
2)whoever it was i dont know, but some fool decided to mess around with all the threads and i myself didnt know where to start from and where to post


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 10:55:32 PM
i see. well as i said, i still believe what i believe, the main reason work stalled was for 2 reasons

1) threeip isnt here and to continue i need to colaborate with him on the database for the address data
2)whoever it was i dont know, but some fool decided to mess around with all the threads and i myself didnt know where to start from and where to post

You are free to believe whatever you like ahmed, no hard feelings...

There is no point arguing anymore, I'm done with that... Zack says he will pay you so happy days for you.

Sorry to see you go and good luck with all your future endeavors.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 02, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
i see. well as i said, i still believe what i believe, the main reason work stalled was for 2 reasons

1) threeip isnt here and to continue i need to colaborate with him on the database for the address data
2)whoever it was i dont know, but some fool decided to mess around with all the threads and i myself didnt know where to start from and where to post



You are free to believe whatever you like ahmed, no hard feelings...

There is no point arguing anymore, I'm done with that... Zack says he will pay you so happy days for you.

Sorry to see you go and good luck with all your future endeavors.
thanks bro, no hard feelings, as i said if you would still like the work ive done so far, im sure we can come to some kind of agreement after all this fiasco has calmed down and after ive had a chat with threeip as its not possible for me to do my share without him


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 02, 2013, 11:13:55 PM
i see. well as i said, i still believe what i believe, the main reason work stalled was for 2 reasons

1) threeip isnt here and to continue i need to colaborate with him on the database for the address data
2)whoever it was i dont know, but some fool decided to mess around with all the threads and i myself didnt know where to start from and where to post



You are free to believe whatever you like ahmed, no hard feelings...

There is no point arguing anymore, I'm done with that... Zack says he will pay you so happy days for you.

Sorry to see you go and good luck with all your future endeavors.
thanks bro, no hard feelings, as i said if you would still like the work ive done so far, im sure we can come to some kind of agreement after all this fiasco has calmed down and after ive had a chat with threeip as its not possible for me to do my share without him

Not a problem, let's let all the dust settle and see how it goes...Have a chat with threeip etc.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 02, 2013, 11:49:08 PM
great


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: Ilars on August 03, 2013, 12:47:08 AM
Hi Snaz,

you can choose this Forum (Crytocointalk.com, a  nice altcoin-forum)

https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/211-infinitecoin-ifc/ (https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/211-infinitecoin-ifc/)

https://cryptocointalk.com/blog/6-infinitecoin-ifc-cryptocointalk-blog/

You could also add a new blog, there are about 500 Members and fast growing.

Once, I opened a IFC-Giveaway and a information-blog about IFC





Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 05:26:30 AM
Hi Snaz,

you can choose this Forum (Crytocointalk.com, a  nice altcoin-forum)

https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/211-infinitecoin-ifc/

https://cryptocointalk.com/blog/6-infinitecoin-ifc-cryptocointalk-blog/

You could also add a new blog, there are about 500 Members and fast growing.

Once, I opened a IFC-Giveaway and a information-blog about IFC





Hi, thanks, I'll come take a look when I get everything back on track again. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 12:03:32 PM
I have cleared all my posts on this thread I suggest you do the same snaz I will delete this one when you have cleared al yours then you can get the project back on track
snaz I have no idea what the hell happened so what is your problem

I haven't taken anything from you I haven't stolen anything from fisheater like you seam the think

The project might have been your basic idea but if I had not gone 50/50 with you none of the website would have ever happened

What you have done is crazy I put so much effort into the project and you threw me of the team because you think I am going to steal the whole project from you lol

To be honest with you I was considering leaving the team as you were not doing your share of the work yes I know you did the text for the website and contributed some ideas but other than that you didn't really do much for the project


right from the start I told you this was a business opportunity and all you wanted to do was to pump up the coin dump it all and move to the next coin  and I persuaded you to change it to a fully self sustaining business


here is the proof that we went in 50/50 >  http://www.altcointalk.co.uk/index.php/topic,119.0.html


>http://www.altcointalk.co.uk/index.php?action=pm;f=inbox;sort=date;start=510

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if we give him both we will be giving him a free ride and sometimes you have to make choices then live with it

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i do agree it would be good to get him on the team but at what cost we would be paying him $300 to join the team and make more money for him that $300 is about the same as we have already put in maybe we pay both the devs and if they then wish to join the team they have to buy there share and the cost of that would go up over time as once we have paid the devs we would have put in over 5btc each so the cost to buy in would be 5btc
once it starts making btc as well as increcing the value of btc the cost to buy in would be a lot bigger 

i know that sounds harsh but it is the real word with a project that could make millions on its own without including the value the coins will gain

what do you think ?

 

I know, well i mean he is offering his services in the future for free or just advertising so we can still have him onboard but not a full member. Why not just leave it like that? So basically we are back to square 1 lol... That Elnewton seems to have gone, maybe he didn't like the site? lol

I don't know, maybe it will be easier if we just leave it me and you and just outsource when we need to? It would be great to have someone that has the skills we need because then we wouldn't need to pay them! lol.... But I'm thinking that it is not looking likely...

For now i am going to get an early night and have a good think about it... In the morning we can see where we are and get to making the new face/forum and then sit down and work out exactly what needs doing in a nice concise list for when threeip gets back.

How about that?


Still trying to think you have some form of control over me zack! Let me tell you that you do not! Why would I delete my posts? Because it shows your quotes? What are you scared of? I have everything saved anyway! The project is no concern of yours anymore... Move on with your life as I am doing! I gave you an opportunity and you blew it! Get over it! Maybe learn something from it!

Goodbye


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 12:59:45 PM
incase you have not seen that's what I am doing I am giving you the option to sort this out take screen snips then delete same as I did

I have taken screen shots but my comments will remain thank you very much... For you to move on all you have to do is walk away and not come here... It really isn't that hard... Oh and perhaps like give me the money you had promised me and give me the text files you still have for the website! But no zack, you still want to be sly, isn't that right zack?

EDIT: Now you are blocked from skype, I have told you I have no wish to listen to your lies... Just get lost! You keep the stolen domains etc!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 01:17:11 PM
I have re added you on Skype please actual talk to me you only reply when its public

Oh so it was you then that removed me from skype! lol... So more of your lies zack... Just like sending the coins and all the files etc... Ahmed talked about it in here zack! Such a joke!

Oh anyway I got work to get on with! So you continue spamming my thread and chatting your nonsense... I'm hitting ignore on here now... So goodbye.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 03, 2013, 02:34:36 PM
Damn! did things have to get this far?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 02:48:40 PM
Damn! did things have to get this far?

Unfortunately zack seems to want to continue even though he is now saying he wanted to leave the team anyway... I messaged him at the very start and he comes straight here and uploads it onto my thread without even talking to me... He removed all the threads off his forum before even talking to me... He held my website hostage... He said he would give it all back if I give him the money for the domain names and server costs, I agreed and he then refused to do it and has infact stolen the domain names... I don't know if he gave me all the files yet, we'll see... He then said he would buy the domains off me yet didn't send any coins to me...

Has zack even paid you yet like he promised?

Oh but all of a sudden he wants to talk? Nah... That ship has sailed... I'm moving on ahmed that's all I can do at this point.





Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 03, 2013, 02:55:58 PM
at this point i believe we all should, project infinite failed as simple as that. I cant even say that ur not at fault because im sure youre at fault as equally as zack is from what youve said. Depending on my discussion i may just continue with the altcoinsaving plan by integrating it into my own projects, at the end of the day it is me and threeip who have fit the pieces together and as you both know neither of us will be paid the full 3 BTC,


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
at this point i believe we all should, project infinite failed as simple as that. I cant even say that ur not at fault because im sure youre at fault as equally as zack is from what youve said. Depending on my discussion i may just continue with the altcoinsaving plan by integrating it into my own projects, at the end of the day it is me and threeip who have fit the pieces together and as you both know neither of us will be paid the full 3 BTC,

I really don't know where you get this from... The fact that zack said he would pay you and hasn't should tell you all you need to know? He was not what I had in mind at all, he turned and started to get greedy wanting more and more control and then finally showing me his true colours by saying he had taken fisheaters coin...

Project infinite will continue regardless of what you think ahmed... And the savings idea is the first step of project infinite! Right now they are one of the same... What you are effectively saying ahmed is now YOU want to try and steal my idea.. What is that all about exactly?

I have spoken to threeip and told him he is welcome to continue working on the site and that he will still be paid in full... You had that offer too but you decided that it was zack you have the contract with and now zack I assume doesn't want to pay you...

How could I have handled it differently? I messaged zack privately about the issue and he goes and makes it public... But yes ahmed, it is obvioulsy all my fault right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 03, 2013, 03:44:52 PM
wait so let me get this straight? is project infinite continuing or not? and id also like a public agreement that any problems are resolved straight and with facts(proof provided) if i am to continue, At this current stage i myself dont know who to believe no more


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
wait so let me get this straight? is project infinite continuing or not? and id also like a public agreement that any problems are resolved straight and with facts(proof provided) if i am to continue, At this current stage i myself dont know who to believe no more

I have said very clearly all along that project infinite will continue... I have provided all the proof I need ahmed, just look through the thread... Of course it is not that easy as zack deleted all his comments! He then tried to get me to do the same... But I quoted all his comments and I have saved all the pages too...

Even in zacks recent comment he posted he said he wanted out anyway! Just look at all the promises and agreements he made and I accepted but he just outright refused... It is all there in his own words ahmed.

I now have hosting and I am just waiting on the domain to propagate so that I can get a private forum up for project infinite... Then I will look at re-installing the site to the new server...

My idea started here ahmed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225891.720

I tried to do this the right way but you just instantly jumped to zacks defense and I don't know why... I am the one that was wronged ahmed and now I will move on and focus on project infinite. I'll ask you again, would you like to complete your work as agreed?



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 03, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
as i said i have no problem with completing the project. I will need to talk with threeip as i said. The main reason for me jumping to zack's defence is ive known him longer than project infinite and he always had a good rep through deals with me. Also i failed to see any logical discussion with facts and no FUD in the project infinite forum. I also didnt like the fact that einewton had been assigned to take over the work i had already begun to work on, in project infinite there was very limited communication between the group and me and threeip imo


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 04:22:14 PM
as i said i have no problem with completing the project. I will need to talk with threeip as i said. The main reason for me jumping to zack's defence is ive known him longer than project infinite and he always had a good rep through deals with me. Also i failed to see any logical discussion with facts and no FUD in the project infinite forum. I also didnt like the fact that einewton had been assigned to take over the work i had already begun to work on, in project infinite there was very limited communication between the group and me and threeip imo

Well I'm not sure about that, I tried my best to communicate with everyone and I sent detailed plans and posted them to the forum, I constantly updates them and spoke with you on many occasions about where we were at... Like I said before you are more than welcome to speak with threeip.

You failed to see logical discussion or facts? I posted zacks PM about the coin... Zacks own words are all the evidence I need! He said himself he wanted to leave anyway, so I really fail to see the problem on his end... He also made a lot of promises he didn't keep... Would you like to check my address against a block explorer to see if he sent me any coins? You can do that if you like... Here... iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5

I have said about the extra help, it took pressure off you... You would still get the same money so why would you have a problem with that?

EDIT: Oh and the only work that I talked about with Einewton was the ticker, which you hadn't started working on... I had spoken to you about it but you said you couldn't do it without threeip to help with the database and that was fine... I thought if Einewton could help with that it would make life a lot easier for both you and threeip when he got back.



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 03, 2013, 04:24:46 PM
that i obvs didnt know but anyways. the way i see it from here and now. All i am is the dev, you guys sort out your arguments and whatever work you guys have that needs doing i shall do for the agreed prices. that applies to both you snaz and zack.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 03, 2013, 04:33:14 PM
that i obvs didnt know but anyways. the way i see it from here and now. All i am is the dev, you guys sort out your arguments and whatever work you guys have that needs doing i shall do for the agreed prices. that applies to both you snaz and zack.

Okay that's fair enough, but now you know...

How could you work on zacks project? What project? You mean the stolen idea? He is really thinking of going ahead with that? He has said on the ANN thread that the site and project are now legally mine! They always were anyway but I can't believe after that he is still going ahead...

That just goes to prove everything I said was right!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: threeip on August 03, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
BTC 12yCeLupJuGFqWkCUpa7Ghb3V8LikWCp5G  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 03, 2013, 09:24:39 PM
just close and open the client and append -rescan to the file e.g. bitcoind.exe -rescan


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 04, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
A message to all...

As you can see this thread has been overrun, it's not a problem, the venue for project infinite has changed. :) If anyone would like details please contact me via PM. Currently I am just accepting people signed up to the beta test.

Thank you for your patience.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 04, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
snaz please can you at least talk to me about why you believe I have done something wrong I believe you have taken everything the wrong way
I had no intentions of screwing you over and ever after all this I believe this can all be sorted out so all you have to do is talk to me and I am sure that you will se that I have done nothing wrong

Can someone please quote this so snaz can see it as he has made it so he cant see my posts


Here is the proof I have paid snaz 40,000,000 IFC for his half on the 3 domains and that I have paid my 50% of the dev fees for altcoinsaveings.com  

I hope that ahmed and threeip do the work they were paid to do on the project as there payments were not due until the beta testing had started  

I am sorry for any damage I have caused to the project but nobody likes being accused of steeling and not even given the chance to prove there not guilty

There are 2 reasons why this is all public

1 snaz would not reply to any pm why he kicked me of the team

2 its better to have everything public as it stops people using it against you later on   


snaz here >

Status: 290 confirmations
Date: 03/08/2013 17:31
To: iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5
Debit: -40000000.00 IFC
Net amount: -40000000.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 7bd7078d6b0daf7870eeb42950e2eee965da55d5221399b489956f1f21e280b5

ahmed here>

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:41
To: 1Dd18fCRCFztoY1jGFPq7QTmpXSNS8AWck
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 13e25554de6d7379e9bc5d1a1c4f51734ad05d72babe5301aa0eea5fde09e276

threeip here >

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:50
To: 12yCeLupJuGFqWkCUpa7Ghb3V8LikWCp5G
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 34e654498fda211b2eeb7b36d77de818399819d5899c6db78c73968090c920b3


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: nawazish1 on August 04, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
snaz please can you at least talk to me about why you believe I have done something wrong I believe you have taken everything the wrong way
I had no intentions of screwing you over and ever after all this I believe this can all be sorted out so all you have to do is talk to me and I am sure that you will se that I have done nothing wrong

Can someone please quote this so snaz can see it as he has made it so he cant see my posts


Here is the proof I have paid snaz 40,000,000 IFC for his half on the 3 domains and that I have paid my 50% of the dev fees for altcoinsaveings.com  

I hope that ahmed and threeip do the work they were paid to do on the project as there payments were not due until the beta testing had started  

I am sorry for any damage I have caused to the project but nobody likes being accused of steeling and not even given the chance to prove there not guilty

There are 2 reasons why this is all public

1 snaz would not reply to any pm why he kicked me of the team

2 its better to have everything public as it stops people using it against you later on   


snaz here >

Status: 290 confirmations
Date: 03/08/2013 17:31
To: iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5
Debit: -40000000.00 IFC
Net amount: -40000000.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 7bd7078d6b0daf7870eeb42950e2eee965da55d5221399b489956f1f21e280b5

ahmed here>

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:41
To: 1Dd18fCRCFztoY1jGFPq7QTmpXSNS8AWck
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 13e25554de6d7379e9bc5d1a1c4f51734ad05d72babe5301aa0eea5fde09e276

threeip here >

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:50
To: 12yCeLupJuGFqWkCUpa7Ghb3V8LikWCp5G
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 34e654498fda211b2eeb7b36d77de818399819d5899c6db78c73968090c920b3

Snaz I believe you should listen to Zack. I am quoting this so you can see his post. It would be better for both of you to solve this problem privately and as humanly as possible. Even if you don't want to work with him anymore. I love the Idea you  and would like to take part in it. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 04, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
snaz I gave you far to many chances to fix this


This is the uk law on slander as we are both residents of the uk this is the law >

Defamation - Elements of a Claim


Under Article 10(2) of the Convention, the protection of the reputation of others is a legitimate ground for restricting the right to freedom of expression. Libel and slander are legal claims that protect an individual’s reputation against defamation. An individual is defamed when a person publishes to a third party words or matter containing an untrue imputation against his or her reputation.

Libel and Slander

 If the publication is in a permanent form (for example in a book, magazine or film), then the defamation is libel. It is slander if the publication is in a transient form (speech). Signs, gestures, photographs, pictures, statues, cartoons etc. can also give rise to a claim for defamation, but the most obvious types of defamatory statements are written or spoken words.

 The principal practical difference between claims for libel and claims for slander is what a claimant must prove to succeed in his or her claim. In libel claims, the claimant does not have to prove that he or she has suffered loss or damage as a result of the publication. In contrast, in claims for slander, the claimant must prove actual damage. There are however several exceptions to the rule that actual damage must be proved in claims for slander.

 For example, if the spoken words accuse the claimant of committing a crime; of having a contagious disease; of being unfit for his or her office, business or profession; or if the communication is an attack of the credit of trades people; or an accusation of being unchaste or adulterous against a woman or girl. In these cases damage is presumed and need not be proved.

Meaning of Defamation

 There is no single comprehensive definition of what is defamatory. Various suggestions have been made before the courts, including any material which:

•Is to a person’s discredit.
•Tends to lower him or her in the estimation of others.
•Causes him or her to be shunned or avoided.
•Causes him or her to be exposed to hatred, ridicule or contempt.
For a statement to be defamatory the imputation must tend to lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally. Even if the words damage a person in the eyes of a section of society or the community, they are not defamatory unless they amount to a disparagement of the reputation in the eyes of right-thinking people generally.

 A statement that amounts to an insult or is mere vulgar abuse is not defamatory. This is because the words do not convey a defamatory meaning to those who heard them (simple abuse is unlikely to cause real damage to a reputation). It is arguable that the defence of vulgar abuse is not available if the statement is a libel. The reason for this distinction is that it is more likely that written words will be taken seriously and understood to have a defamatory meaning.

 In contrast to most civil cases, juries usually hear defamation claims. Once the judge has decided that the words - or other material - could possibly have a meaning that is damaging to the claimant’s reputation, the jury’s role is twofold. First, it must determine what the words mean in their natural and ordinary sense. Second, the jury must decide whether that meaning is defamatory. When deciding what the words mean the intention and knowledge of the person who published the words are irrelevant.

 The law of defamation recognises two types of meanings. The first type of meaning is the natural and ordinary meaning of the words. This is not limited to the obvious and literal meaning, but includes any inference which the ordinary, reasonable reader would draw from the words. The second type of meaning is the innuendo meaning:

False Innuendo: An alternative meaning which the ordinary, reasonable person who can read between the lines would infer from the words is known as the ‘false innuendo’ meaning.

True Innuendo: True innuendo arises when words that appear to be innocent to some people appear as defamatory to others because they possess special knowledge or extra information (for example, reading about someone getting married wouldn’t seem damaging to their reputation - unless you knew that they were already married!).

 A claimant can ask that the court consider a statement’s false or true innuendo meaning.

Publication

The words complained of must have been published by the person sued to a third party. Publication includes any means of communication even if only to one other person. Due to the breadth of the term publication, many individuals with only a slight connection to the work can find themselves ensnared in defamation proceedings.

 However, the Defamation Act 1996 provides a defence to persons who are not authors, editors or commercial publishers of the statement if they took reasonable care in relation to its publication and they did not know and had no reason to believe that what they did caused or contributed to the publication of a defamatory statement. This is intended to cover printers, distributors, on-line service providers and live broadcasters.

 The High Court has held for the purposes of the Defamation Act 1996 that an Internet Service Provider (ISP) which transmits a posting from its news server to subscribers who want to use it, is not the publisher of the posting, although at common law it would be considered to be. However, the court held that because the ISP had not removed the offending material as soon as it was notified of its existence, it had not acted reasonably and the defence under the Defamation Act 1996 was not available.

Identification

A claimant must prove that the defamatory statement refers to him or her. In most cases this can be done without difficulty, as the claimant will be named. However, a claimant who has not been referred to by name must prove that the words complained of were understood by some readers as referring to him or her.

 The claimant can rely on the fact that he or she was referred to by a nickname or initials or that he or she was a member of a class or group of people included in the defamatory statement.

 The fact that a publisher did not intend to refer to the claimant is irrelevant to the question of whether or not that person has been defamed. A person whose name is the same or similar to that of a fictitious character can sue for defamation if the words complained of would be understood to refer to the claimant by reasonable people who knew him or her.

 Similarly, a member of a group or class of people can sue in relation to a defamatory allegation referring to the group as a whole, if the group is sufficiently small that the allegation would be understood to refer to him or her personally.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 05, 2013, 02:28:50 AM
snaz please can you at least talk to me about why you believe I have done something wrong I believe you have taken everything the wrong way
I had no intentions of screwing you over and ever after all this I believe this can all be sorted out so all you have to do is talk to me and I am sure that you will se that I have done nothing wrong

Can someone please quote this so snaz can see it as he has made it so he cant see my posts


Here is the proof I have paid snaz 40,000,000 IFC for his half on the 3 domains and that I have paid my 50% of the dev fees for altcoinsaveings.com  

I hope that ahmed and threeip do the work they were paid to do on the project as there payments were not due until the beta testing had started  

I am sorry for any damage I have caused to the project but nobody likes being accused of steeling and not even given the chance to prove there not guilty

There are 2 reasons why this is all public

1 snaz would not reply to any pm why he kicked me of the team

2 its better to have everything public as it stops people using it against you later on  


snaz here >

Status: 290 confirmations
Date: 03/08/2013 17:31
To: iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5
Debit: -40000000.00 IFC
Net amount: -40000000.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 7bd7078d6b0daf7870eeb42950e2eee965da55d5221399b489956f1f21e280b5

ahmed here>

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:41
To: 1Dd18fCRCFztoY1jGFPq7QTmpXSNS8AWck
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 13e25554de6d7379e9bc5d1a1c4f51734ad05d72babe5301aa0eea5fde09e276

threeip here >

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:50
To: 12yCeLupJuGFqWkCUpa7Ghb3V8LikWCp5G
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 34e654498fda211b2eeb7b36d77de818399819d5899c6db78c73968090c920b3

Snaz I believe you should listen to Zack. I am quoting this so you can see his post. It would be better for both of you to solve this problem privately and as humanly as possible. Even if you don't want to work with him anymore. I love the Idea you  and would like to take part in it. :)

I'm sorry fella, I know you are trying to help but this guy is a bare faced liar... Oh yeah he paid me AFTER all the times he said he already had!!! lol

He's a joker on damage control...

Even more lies in this comment... "I would not answer any PM..." I sent HIM the PM and he brought it to this thread and posted it here with his reply... If you go back through the thread you will see it...

He then removed all his posts and tried to get me to do the same too...

If someone had told you constant lies would you still want to talk to that person? Even if you KNEW it meant only further lies... If you want to see if he is lying or not then check out my wallet address and see the time stamp of that transaction... Then go back through the thread and see when I first started asking for it...

I'm sorry but I HAVE explained to him, very clearly. I'm not willing to go over and over and over the same old stuff!

Ahmed and threeip had the chance to finish the project but they didn't want to... Ahmed told me that his deal was with zack and zack alone... Threeip got 1BTC of me as a good will gesture and I got nothing in return for it... Not even a thank you.

I am moving on from all this non sense and concentrating on project infinite.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 05, 2013, 02:43:48 AM
why is everyone supporting snaz ?

pop over to altcointalk.co.uk and I will post up the complete chat logs message logs and project infinite posts then you will see it from my point of view in 5 mins they should be up  

Zack, give it a rest, you are being ridiculous... It is clear as day what happened, you still can't even give me a straight answer on the domain... And I still have not received my money back from you for it! More broken promises from you! Go ahead and post what you like, everyone has already seen what went down.

If you don't mind, as I am not welcome on your forum could you please stop spamming my thread, thank you.

Here is one of the messages where I am asking for my money, this is after he has said that he has already paid it... I mean honestly do I have to constantly keep proving the same old thing?

Oh and on another note.. Why would he want the domain any way? Ponder on that for a while...


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 05, 2013, 02:46:57 AM
I also joined the team out of good faith but look were that got me


so what was my 50% of the project ? legaly you cant just take it from me

You can't just be part of the project and then think that you can take it over and start taking peoples coins from them... That is not the way I work... You have ruined this project for me... It was a very interesting and fresh idea but you have done your upmost to sabotage it. I can't believe you think you still have a claim on it! You have no claim on MY project, I wrote every bit of text on that site, which part is yours? I have all the original documents plus the e-mails where I sent it to the web builder...

Let me try again, are you going to give me my site back as promised or not?

you know full well that it was a 50/50 agreement just because you wrote the text for the website dosent make it yours if it is your project why did I have to pay half of the domain cost and half the dev cost

legally speaking that means I own 50% stake in the project so unless we both agree I still own halve of it so make me a good offer and its yours as far as I am concerned my share is worth over 25BTC minimum as I have put in over 200h of work its up to you how you want to do this

so do you want to talk like a human yet ? I suggest a  thread on bitcointalk in the off topic section :)

You are completely out of your mind! The text on the website is not the only thing I did... You have already said that it was my idea and my project and my website yet you talk about 50/50 cos we split the domain name costs? lol We have split nothing for hosting and no money has been paid to any developer yet... The only thing you currently own is half of the domain name!

You even said you would give it back if I pay up your half... That is a contract, but now you are showing your true colours yet again... Maybe it is me who should approach the mods!



EDIT: In your post you said this zack...

Quote
if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever"

Even if you THINK you have 50% share you have told me what you want for that 50% already! Now you come up with some ridiculous 25 bTC...

You are a very bad businessman zack... I hope people here can see you for what you are!

my 50% includes all I have done for the project if it all is how you say it is that just proves you were using me for my contacts and sponging sever space

I have a 50% share deal with it let me know when you are ready to talk about this like civilised human beings

Zack you did not put in 100's of hours or use any of your contacts... This is beyond a joke now... You are trying to steal my website and my ideas! this is a very low thing to do... No wonder you wanted the website on your server so bad... So you could hold it hostage whenever you like! This is not on! Where is the work to show for this hundreds of hours? Which bit did you do? Nothing zack!

I have nothing more to say to you... I am putting in a scammer request to the mods and we'll let them sort it out from here! Or you can do the right thing and give me back what you openly admit is mine!



Here is a nice one of zack trying to scam 25 BTC out of me... lol As if!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 02:58:02 AM
snaz please can you at least talk to me about why you believe I have done something wrong I believe you have taken everything the wrong way
I had no intentions of screwing you over and ever after all this I believe this can all be sorted out so all you have to do is talk to me and I am sure that you will se that I have done nothing wrong

Can someone please quote this so snaz can see it as he has made it so he cant see my posts


Here is the proof I have paid snaz 40,000,000 IFC for his half on the 3 domains and that I have paid my 50% of the dev fees for altcoinsaveings.com  

I hope that ahmed and threeip do the work they were paid to do on the project as there payments were not due until the beta testing had started  

I am sorry for any damage I have caused to the project but nobody likes being accused of steeling and not even given the chance to prove there not guilty

There are 2 reasons why this is all public

1 snaz would not reply to any pm why he kicked me of the team

2 its better to have everything public as it stops people using it against you later on  


snaz here >

Status: 290 confirmations
Date: 03/08/2013 17:31
To: iDr414eHs2TNCAPmDQifhZ7AyhdJvL1Ln5
Debit: -40000000.00 IFC
Net amount: -40000000.00 IFC
Transaction ID: 7bd7078d6b0daf7870eeb42950e2eee965da55d5221399b489956f1f21e280b5

ahmed here>

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:41
To: 1Dd18fCRCFztoY1jGFPq7QTmpXSNS8AWck
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 13e25554de6d7379e9bc5d1a1c4f51734ad05d72babe5301aa0eea5fde09e276

threeip here >

Status: 0/unconfirmed, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 04/08/2013 01:50
To: 12yCeLupJuGFqWkCUpa7Ghb3V8LikWCp5G
Debit: -1.50 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTC
Net amount: -1.5001 BTC
Transaction ID: 34e654498fda211b2eeb7b36d77de818399819d5899c6db78c73968090c920b3

Snaz I believe you should listen to Zack. I am quoting this so you can see his post. It would be better for both of you to solve this problem privately and as humanly as possible. Even if you don't want to work with him anymore. I love the Idea you  and would like to take part in it. :)

I'm sorry fella, I know you are trying to help but this guy is a bare faced liar... Oh yeah he paid me AFTER all the times he said he already had!!! lol

He's a joker on damage control...

Even more lies in this comment... "I would not answer any PM..." I sent HIM the PM and he brought it to this thread and posted it here with his reply... If you go back through the thread you will see it...

He then removed all his posts and tried to get me to do the same too...

If someone had told you constant lies would you still want to talk to that person? Even if you KNEW it meant only further lies... If you want to see if he is lying or not then check out my wallet address and see the time stamp of that transaction... Then go back through the thread and see when I first started asking for it...

I'm sorry but I HAVE explained to him, very clearly. I'm not willing to go over and over and over the same old stuff!

Ahmed and threeip had the chance to finish the project but they didn't want to... Ahmed told me that his deal was with zack and zack alone... Threeip got 1BTC of me as a good will gesture and I got nothing in return for it... Not even a thank you.

I am moving on from all this non sense and concentrating on project infinite.


From this post I am assuming you are not going to pay ahmed the 1.5BTC and threeip the full 1.5BTC you owe him  that was the deal we had with them

If I have to pay them for the other half I will not be happy about it  


snaz you have not explained anything you have not even replied to me how was I suppose to sort anything out if you wont talk to me all you had to do was talk to me about it and it would have never ended like this

if you had bothered reading your PMs from me you would know why the first transaction of 40,000,000 IFC never went threw

( it never went threw as it was flagged as a suspicious withdrawal from cryptsy I contacted support and hopefully it all gets sorted and I can trade coins again )

when the first transaction of 40,000,000IFC finally arrives can you send it back as you would have received 80,000,000 IFC from me when I only owed you less than 40,000,000 IFC

snaz also please remember that you can only use names and ideas that are yours that includes the custom wallet that ahmed made I payed for fisheater compiled and I made work

Were have I lied ? I sent it when I said I did I have never denied sending the message you keep referring to but as you know the message was not ment to be taken that way and fisheater has conformed I have not stolen from


the only damage control I was doing was to save project infinite



Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 05, 2013, 03:00:44 AM
Quote
   
Re: [ANN] Infinitecoin - IFC high coins per block! V1.3 Released! *Please Upgrade*
August 02, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
   
Reply with quote  #891
sorry guys snaz wants me off the project infinate team >

Quote
I have got to say that over the past few days I have become increasingly unhappy with the way things have been going and the way you have been acting. It has been eating away at me so I am laying my cards on the table now...

Your message about taking over fisheaters coin has got me very concerned about working with you at all... Stealing peoples ideas and passing them off as my own is not what I am about. What is to stop you thinking the same about me and my idea? For all I know you probably are. You are certainly acting like it and I can tell you now that it will not be happening.

This whole thing is my idea zack, I allowed you on board and even had to convince you and I feel that you actually think it is now yours... It is not... The more I think about it the more I can not bring myself to work with you.

I have tried to remedy things with you but it isn't working for me at all...

I will be shutting down the project until further notice, I will be leaving a notice about this on the beta test thread on bitcointalk, in due time.

For good will I am holding off from doing that until I get a response from you...

What I want is the website moved to a server of my choosing, don't worry I will pay ahmed and threeip in full when the website is completed, as per their arrangement. I will also refund you your half of the domain name.

This is your chance to remedy the situation"

******* Up there is me kindly asking the schemer and liar to leave...

Edited for ease of reading

******* Down here is where the schemer and liar responds with.... well lies...

I had no plans to take the project I have just been working very hard to get the wallet all running properly .

I cannot work with someone like this

snaz if you tell me were you want the domains and all the webfiles I will send it all over

if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever

you will have to pay the devs for the work they have done

all parts of my forum that are for project infinite will be saved and sent to you then deleted

thanks

zack

Here is a post from the infinitecoin ANN thread... He soon changed his tune didn't he! I accepted his offer in this thread too but he refused and then held my site at ransom!

I can't believe i still have to justify this BS... But hey, there you go...

Zack is most definitely someone I never want any contact with again... But by all means, if YOU want to listen to his lies then go right ahead, for me, I have heard enough.

:)

EDIT: The first quote within that quote was the PM that I sent to zack... He then came and posted it here, he didn't reply back to me at all...

The second part is him offering to give me back my domain and all.. Then he went back on his work because he is a LIAR... Have we all got that now? ZACKCLARK lies, like a lot!

He told me he pays 36 pounds a month for web hosting too, lol... I just bought some zacky boy, I think you may be getting ripped off, or just more BS! lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 03:05:39 AM
why is everyone supporting snaz ?

pop over to altcointalk.co.uk and I will post up the complete chat logs message logs and project infinite posts then you will see it from my point of view in 5 mins they should be up  

Zack, give it a rest, you are being ridiculous... It is clear as day what happened, you still can't even give me a straight answer on the domain... And I still have not received my money back from you for it! More broken promises from you! Go ahead and post what you like, everyone has already seen what went down.

If you don't mind, as I am not welcome on your forum could you please stop spamming my thread, thank you.

Here is one of the messages where I am asking for my money, this is after he has said that he has already paid it... I mean honestly do I have to constantly keep proving the same old thing?

Oh and on another note.. Why would he want the domain any way? Ponder on that for a while...

I have no use for any of the altcoin savings domains but I cannot send them for the first 30 days after buying them as I got them using a discount code so it was just easyr to but your share of them if you want them when the 30 days are up you can have them  

I have already said I sent the coins but the transaction was blocked by cryptsy as it was a suspicious transaction as it sent of whatever system they have in place


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Quote
   
Re: [ANN] Infinitecoin - IFC high coins per block! V1.3 Released! *Please Upgrade*
August 02, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
   
Reply with quote  #891
sorry guys snaz wants me off the project infinate team >

Quote
I have got to say that over the past few days I have become increasingly unhappy with the way things have been going and the way you have been acting. It has been eating away at me so I am laying my cards on the table now...

Your message about taking over fisheaters coin has got me very concerned about working with you at all... Stealing peoples ideas and passing them off as my own is not what I am about. What is to stop you thinking the same about me and my idea? For all I know you probably are. You are certainly acting like it and I can tell you now that it will not be happening.

This whole thing is my idea zack, I allowed you on board and even had to convince you and I feel that you actually think it is now yours... It is not... The more I think about it the more I can not bring myself to work with you.

I have tried to remedy things with you but it isn't working for me at all...

I will be shutting down the project until further notice, I will be leaving a notice about this on the beta test thread on bitcointalk, in due time.

For good will I am holding off from doing that until I get a response from you...

What I want is the website moved to a server of my choosing, don't worry I will pay ahmed and threeip in full when the website is completed, as per their arrangement. I will also refund you your half of the domain name.

This is your chance to remedy the situation

I had no plans to take the project I have just been working very hard to get the wallet all running properly .

I cannot work with someone like this

snaz if you tell me were you want the domains and all the webfiles I will send it all over

if you are buyng out my 50% stake you owe me the otherhalf of the money for the domains and a couple of pounds towards the sever

you will have to pay the devs for the work they have done

all parts of my forum that are for project infinite will be saved and sent to you then deleted

thanks

zack

Here is a post from the infinitecoin ANN thread... He soon changed his tune didn't he! I accepted his offer in this thread too but he refused and then held my site at ransom!

I can't believe i still have to justify this BS... But hey, there you go...

Zack is most definitely someone I never want any contact with again... But by all means, if YOU want to listen to his lies then go right ahead, for me, I have heard enough.

:)

EDIT: The first quote within that quote was the PM that I sent to zack... He then came and posted it here, he didn't reply back to me at all...

The second part is him offering to give me back my domain and all.. Then he went back on his work because he is a LIAR... Have we all got that now? ZACKCLARK lies, like a lot!

He told me he pays 36 pounds a month for web hosting too, lol... I just bought some zacky boy, I think you may be getting ripped off, or just more BS! lol



I have to tell you this its not your website you have not paid the devs for it so until you have done so in full it is still there's

my hosing package is a dualcore 2gb ram 500gb hdd managed dedicated sever with unlimited bandwidth and basic ddos protection that's not bad for £36 a month


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 05, 2013, 04:03:42 AM
One more qoute from our boy zack just to lay this all to rest and as he loves threatening me with "the law" lol

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Re: [ANN] Infinitecoin - IFC high coins per block! V1.3 Released! *Please Upgrade*
August 02, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
   
Reply with quote  #893
Quote from: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 03:20:07 PM




"Our couple divorced Grin


Snaz,it was a great attempt. Maybe another time ...

Zack,focus on the development of your site and stop fussing and spamming here)))))

Good luck to both)"


the only website I have now is altcointalk as the rest is now belongs to snaz  as I legally own none of it as it was his idea

Don't worry, if he has deleted this one too I also have the page saved, so if anyone is really interested they can request a copy from me...

Now, this is the last I have to say on the matter...

To everyone else still interested in project infinite I am here to remind you that it is going forward and the website is back under construction from fresh. I am working very hard getting it ready for you guys, and when it is ready I shall let you all know. :)

In the meantime, stay safe out there folks.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 04:07:30 AM
One more qoute from our boy zack just to lay this all to rest and as he loves threatening me with "the law" lol

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Re: [ANN] Infinitecoin - IFC high coins per block! V1.3 Released! *Please Upgrade*
August 02, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
   
Reply with quote  #893
Quote from: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 03:20:07 PM




"Our couple divorced Grin


Snaz,it was a great attempt. Maybe another time ...

Zack,focus on the development of your site and stop fussing and spamming here)))))

Good luck to both)"


the only website I have now is altcointalk as the rest is now belongs to snaz  as I legally own none of it as it was his idea

Don't worry, if he has deleted this one too I also have the page saved, so if anyone is really interested they can request a copy from me...

Now, this is the last I have to say on the matter...

To everyone else still interested in project infinite I am here to remind you that it is going forward and the website is back under construction from fresh. I am working very hard getting it ready for you guys, and when it is ready I shall let you all know. :)

In the meantime, stay safe out there folks.

were the hell did that post come from ? I did not post that !!

Edit I have contacted admin as I believe my account has been compromised as I never posted that can you please tell me were it is


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 04:55:46 AM
very clever using team viewer to post under my name don't try and do it again I have changed the password


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 05, 2013, 05:06:39 AM
can you 2 grow the fuck up. take this shit to a pm and stop spamming the forum. Snaz your unco-operative and from speaking to threeip i see you sent him 1 btc as a "goodwill gesture" but not a penny to me. I myself can see here and so can everyone else.

Zack- dont expect anyone here to believe you. youre making some of the most rookie mistakes of all and if what youre saying is true and u didnt post everything thats said, then youre getting burned by them. The easiest solution to this should be both you and snaz pay up 1.5 BTC each of which youve paid youre share, the site is finished and everything goes 50/50 from there on and thats sorted by yourself. Or the only other solution is all matters on the topic ends from here onwards and everyone is here and free to do their own thing with no mention of this topic again

Now thats how civilized people will do it, if you guys really want to have it out and spam the place down them make a topic in the scam accusation boards or off topic and argue till your hearts content over there,


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: SNAZ31 on August 05, 2013, 08:39:33 AM
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can you 2 grow the fuck up. take this shit to a pm and stop spamming the forum. Snaz your unco-operative and from speaking to threeip i see you sent him 1 btc as a "goodwill gesture" but not a penny to me. I myself can see here and so can everyone else.


Funny thing hypocrisy isn't it, as you know, you are "spamming the boards too".. Yes you got nothing from me, your deal "was with zack and zack alone", been over this with you! These were YOUR words ahmed, man up and stand by them! Don't cry about it later on.

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Zack- dont expect anyone here to believe you. youre making some of the most rookie mistakes of all and if what youre saying is true and u didnt post everything thats said, then youre getting burned by them. The easiest solution to this should be both you and snaz pay up 1.5 BTC each of which youve paid youre share, the site is finished and everything goes 50/50 from there on and thats sorted by yourself. Or the only other solution is all matters on the topic ends from here onwards and everyone is here and free to do their own thing with no mention of this topic again

Ha, yeah sure ahmed, you have to learn that you can't just swap and change when you feel like it! Zack has taken the domains and anyway, the site was garbage compared to what I can do myself! Ahmed you did no work anyway, all I saw from you was a slightly altered wallet that I had to get compiled myself, and even then it didn't work properly... What a joke! lol

I have paid a $100 and seen absolutely nothing for my money, and I dfon't want anything either, it's long past that! I have moved on and begun making the site from fresh... You had the opportunity the finish the site but you told me no because you were working with zack! You told me your deal was with him and him alone! Then you got the cheek to ask for 1.5 BTC... For a slightly altered wallet that didn't work and wasn't even compiled, nice fantasy world you live in!

If zack had given you 1.5 BTC then you should be very happy about that!

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Now thats how civilized people will do it, if you guys really want to have it out and spam the place down them make a topic in the scam accusation boards or off topic and argue till your hearts content over there,

You don't know what the word civilized means, your posts are in here too ahmed, you came out accusing me of all kinds of crap and then went on to say that YOU were going to steal my idea too!

I can see why you a zack are such good friends...

Now you lot get on with your lives for christ sake.


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: ahmed_bodi on August 05, 2013, 08:50:47 AM
exactly you fool! so end this shit and close the topic. why are you guys letting this continue on and on thats my point!


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
snaz you think you haven't seen anything for you money I have paid threeip and ahmed 1.5BTC each as that was my share and  I have nothing what so ever from it whoever it was the used my computer to post that is a complete idiot there is only 1 person that had my team viewer password and that was snaz so if it wasn't you who was it


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 11:59:27 AM
can you 2 grow the fuck up. take this shit to a pm and stop spamming the forum. Snaz your unco-operative and from speaking to threeip i see you sent him 1 btc as a "goodwill gesture" but not a penny to me. I myself can see here and so can everyone else.

Zack- dont expect anyone here to believe you. youre making some of the most rookie mistakes of all and if what youre saying is true and u didnt post everything thats said, then youre getting burned by them. The easiest solution to this should be both you and snaz pay up 1.5 BTC each of which youve paid youre share, the site is finished and everything goes 50/50 from there on and thats sorted by yourself. Or the only other solution is all matters on the topic ends from here onwards and everyone is here and free to do their own thing with no mention of this topic again

Now thats how civilized people will do it, if you guys really want to have it out and spam the place down them make a topic in the scam accusation boards or off topic and argue till your hearts content over there,


firstly this whole thing could have been avoided if snaz ancerd my PMs in the first place

admed there is only one post that I never posted that was it why would I defend my self all this time then post that it is all legally his ?

I have already said I would still work with him but there has to be a contract on who owns what then this cant happen again


Title: Re: [ANN] Calling all beta testers!
Post by: zackclark70 on August 05, 2013, 12:10:43 PM
One more qoute from our boy zack just to lay this all to rest and as he loves threatening me with "the law" lol

Quote
   
Re: [ANN] Infinitecoin - IFC high coins per block! V1.3 Released! *Please Upgrade*
August 02, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
   
Reply with quote  #893
Quote from: saamxx on August 02, 2013, 03:20:07 PM




"Our couple divorced Grin


Snaz,it was a great attempt. Maybe another time ...

Zack,focus on the development of your site and stop fussing and spamming here)))))

Good luck to both)"


the only website I have now is altcointalk as the rest is now belongs to snaz  as I legally own none of it as it was his idea

Don't worry, if he has deleted this one too I also have the page saved, so if anyone is really interested they can request a copy from me...

Now, this is the last I have to say on the matter...

To everyone else still interested in project infinite I am here to remind you that it is going forward and the website is back under construction from fresh. I am working very hard getting it ready for you guys, and when it is ready I shall let you all know. :)

In the meantime, stay safe out there folks.


The part in red was not posted by me it is 100% untrue as I have other domains that whoever posted it didn't know about >

 altcoinsavings.co.uk 
 altcoinsavings.com 
 altcoinsavings.org
 altcointalk.co.uk
 blockexplorer.co.uk
 handcraftedbyme.co.uk 
 privateforum.altcointalk.co.uk
 projectinfinite.co.uk
 zackclark.co.uk

so why would I go against all I have been saying all this time and say>

The project is legally his

I don't have the domains

I only have altcointalk.co.uk