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Recently, I see many messages complaining or asking about the token payment period of bounty programs on the main telegram channel (of projects).
Constant questions every day, even though the admin has always posted "Please read the pinned message". (They are tired of constantly answering the token distribution deadline for the bounty hunters).
However, worse than that (the hunter) let go of bad words.
For example, Shit token, is ABC scam ?, ABC is a scam project, when list exchange ?, Price will divide 10 divided 100 ... etc
(I checked their info, they are mostly bounty hunter).

This not only does not help them get token sooner but also makes the project seriously affected.
The new investors will probably reluctant to see the message above, that will more or less make them feel unsure when investing and of course it directly affects the fundraising.
I understand their feeling (hunter) because I'm a bounty hunter.

I just want to say a few things:
Projects that extend ICO sale time, this means that the distribution of bounty will slow down.
Cryptocurrency is in a difficult period, projects are very difficult to raise funds, so you should be patient.
Stop saying FUD news, so as not to affect the psychology of investors.
As you know, if they don't raise funds successfully, we will become nothing.
The failure of ICO is also completely understandable during this time.
Therefore, please sympathize with them if they extend the time of selling ICO. They raise as much as possible, this will be very beneficial for us.
If they pay the token, don't ask too much about conducting the exchange, because if they focus on project development, list exchange is just time.
Finally, see this as an extra job, an investment deal with a little time and no capital, everything will be better when the markets return.

You can supplement if what I say is missing, or can refute my opinion. I just want us to develop a good way to avoid detractors (like bounty hunter is those who ruin the project ...)

Pay attention:
I don't blame bounty hunter.
The project failed not a hunter fault, basically because the project was not persuasive and the market was in difficult stages.

The problem I am referring to our desire to contribute to their success, it would be beneficial for us.

I am referring to the projects that have ended the bounty program, but they are extending the ICO time. (Not projects have ended without paying for the hunter).

P.s: Sympathize with me if my grammar is not good.

I feel patient enough to wait for the bounty delivery from the gifts that I follow. It's been almost a year for me to wait for the gift to be delivered, but it's still promised. Is this also still impatient ???? !!!

I still conduct normal work and, they still pay token, although some projects were done that a bit late.
You should understand that they fail or just raise not much capital, we will also receive low-value tokens.
I just want us not to let go of bad words or FUD news to avoid affecting the project.

I think you might be right in your opinion about bounty hunters, nothing minding the grammar,however patience is the key word in this present cryptocurrency situation,we should be very careful the way we make certain statements,also the bounty managers should treat bounty hunters like humans

Even if we are patient, we are also humans who wants to get paid fairly without waiting so many years and more. I dont think this thread would get more views from the bounty hunters.

you can't blame people for complaining when they see they are losing a lot of money. you would have done the same thing if you were supposed to get paid for the work you did in something that is continuing to lose value in front of your eyes while you are incapable of dumping it because you are not yet paid.

Yes, and here in general hunters. Turn it around. If there were no hunters. Who always ask the right questions to the wrong companies. Scammers would be many times more. After all, in general, hunters are friendly and quickly find scam. So do not say that someone is to blame for the fact that the project is unsuccessful. Maybe you need to work better? Is the idea better? And do not steal investors' money.

 Bounty hunters always demand nowadays because its been awhile and the team behind of the project always making excuses every time especially during the distribution of token  which is always asking for an extension. Lol.  Well we cant blame them because promise is a promise and it must be priority of the owner  

I believe that bounty hunters can have the full rights to spoil the reputation of the project if the team does not fulfill the promises which they gave

LOL!
The problem here is that if they do not raise enough money, we will have nothing.
You should read my post carefully.

Eliminate the problem of those damn bounty managers, I think we should do our best to help them mobilize as much money as possible. Not the words to influence their community (investors).

You also have to understand that you won't get anything if they fail.
What I want to say here is not to blame the hunter.

I agree with you that the words of the bounty participants also affect investors. But there are also projects that make special grub bounty participants, and that I think is a good step to avoid the things you mentioned above.

The demands is legal as they work for it, I seen a lots of this where bounty hunters are hangs with the tokens that they should gained working
from a project who already finished and already exist around some exchange, they are just hoping to get the rewards and sell it out while the
value still favor them.

yes I think ethics in asking in a public group on an ICO project is needed, as a bounty hunter don't say like "this project is a scam" and so on. if investors see such questions over and over there will also be panic about investors.

for sure you are doing bounty campaigns just recently if you ask bounty hunters to be patient. every bounty hunter who has been doing this for over a year has already lost his patience

I understand that.
I have added a few comments in the post, you can review.

IN the past many people joined bounties and made lot of money, these profitable bounties are over. Crypto is evolving, time changes the scenario.. what was valid 1 year ago, isnt anymore. There is no other exit than accept and try to "flow" with the circunstances.. It is non sense to blaim a project for the delays in distrubition, extension of ICO.. in last instance, this will benefit bounty hunters that thinks about holding the projects token in the long term

Your patiently is really amazing bro. Usually if i have that experience i will just forget that reward and not thinking to much. They just want playing with us and get free advertising from us. Not fair but its reality.

Regardless of whether the hunter has worked for a long time, if ICO fails, they will receive nothing.
We (hunters) are working without any constraints. They do not force workers to work for them, we work completely voluntarily.
So why not support them just simply do not released false information to influence investor sentiment.

Yes!
Because now is not 2017.
We want to make a lot of money from bounty, ICOs also want to raise as much money as possible.
So should support them.
(Of course excluding projects that have ended but they do not pay tokens).

I share very similar view. Extending waiting periods for months was the main cause for me to quit chasing bounty opportunities.
There has to be a limit at some point, first of all people have limited memory, there is just now way to remember all the promotions they took part in. After few months of waiting its easy to forget about some particular task, that was necessary for the reward.
Second thing is to keep up with the technology, few to many wallets on your drive, can deplete storage space, internet plan limit etc. so it is itself problematic to be entangled with many campaigns at once.

I get the point what you mean. Indeed sometimes many think when following a bounty after work we will get paid but sometimes we forget that when their projects fail and do not reach softcap then we will not be paid. The point is we have to analyze a project correctly but sometimes a team not fair also. The project runs successfully and they forget bounty hunter, they just treat us like trash.

You work scientifically.
I do not think that storing multiple wallets on the drive makes your computer take up space. LOL.
You say that prolonging their time makes you miss the opportunity to make money, remember that now is not the end of 2017, every ICO is struggling to raise $.
You can't blame them because you chose (ICO) to work, they don't choose you. You can choose other projects.
My opinion is that most ICOs are currently in the same situation.

Honestly, I don’t have any problems with it, and although I haven’t paid a lot of projects, I try to keep calm!

Bounty hunters have enough patience man. Byt hose projects are not real and their promises are totally fake and lies. Do you know Elysian bounty, it's like they scammed bounty hunters already, and also Envion bounty and Tokenpay bounty, they always suggest to read the pinned message! More than 6 to 8 months have passed, yesterday Elysian team told me they are resolving some issues! Such a hypocrite they are.

So, don't blame bounty hunter, try to read their feelings. They worked hard to get paid but those successful ICO projects betrayed all the bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters are patient and solid in terms of waiting and work. The Bounty moderator should be fast and should do the job completely.

What you are saying is true and it really shouldn't be so, most times the tokens would not have even been distributed to the tokensale participants and the bounty hunters would be demanding for their tokens in a ride way.

From experience, I know that bounty hunters are patient with projects that are yet to conclude their tokensale but the ones they they go all out to annoy are the ones that already listed in exchange but keep ignoring bounty hunters.

From my own observation, investors do not really care much what bounty hunters say. In fact, they even find bounty hunters annoying and asked them to be banned.

I do realise how ridiculous this may sound in 2019, but this obviously depends of the hardware available.
I bet there are many who struggle with small and even tiny HDD's. Netbooks with 16gb storage are quite common in developing areas, so quite a lot of people can be turned off, just because of storage space dilemma. No to mention internet plans.
"You don't like it? Go away" argument is very washed up.
If somebody is choosing any particular project and finalization is stated then, is it really fair to change rules during the game?
I say no, it isn't and people have the right to be unhappy. If there is no specific date scheduled as end, then you are 100% right.
I guess they are but is it truly a bad thing? Everybody is struggling this way or another.

Bounty hunters are becoming impatient if the rewards is still not distributed even though the bounty or ICO period was already ended months ago. They are complaining because they waste their efforts and time for nothing. They already waited enough so we cannot blame them.

I am tired of hearing these word " please be patient" Bounty hunters will work for about three {3} months and at the end of it they will say be patient. Some of them have not distributed the token since last year February and all they say is please be patient. Be patient was not part of the rules before hunters started working.

I think bounty hunters are the one really getting frustrated in this downwards price movement as most of the icos projects has been suspended and those that even meet up with there hard cap are could not list the projects in the market. Bounty hunters should endeavour to be patience with the market.

Bounty hunters are really a person who has a big patience, we experience a very huge dip and almost all project are dead and some are extended the works or task for bounty hunters are extended, same with the date of payments. And bounty hunters still working even if sometimes the token allocated is very small for the work that is extended for almost 2 months, I don't think bounty hunters dump thier hard earned token for a very small amount of profit, we all know how hard and how long we work for the token that we get from bounty.

Complaining is good if it's right . Wasting time and efforts of bounty hunters is usually said of them if they did not get their token.
Bounty hunters are don't want to wait like few months before the token being listed. Not all the bounty hunters like that but there still some bounty hunters are good and have patient. Not all the bounty hunters are their fault for sure they want to see their effort and spending few months in the ICO by getting more tokens with good value.

I guess you got the answer right there, This is no longer 2017, ICO is not exposed and failed miserably, the model is not working anymore so I doubt that its going to be profitable, so don't expect to make a lot of money now because it's not going to work.

Most of the developers have already created an announcement about that before and this has already pinned by most of these developers and sadly there is some person can't even read it and they must be categorized as stupid hunters that can't even read properly.

Most of the projects not getting any money so their bounties are worthless. So getting the same bad result over and over again for bounty hunters becoming more and more frustrating.

It seems to me if teams made their plans or actions more openly, then there would be no such problems with bounty hunters!

Basically when we try to see it in a broader lens, bounty hunters are also a subject that contribute the success of the project, if and only if, bounty hunters are passionate and qualified enough to handle task that will help the project itself.

When ico token sale extended, bounty hunters blame project team management but i don't think this is team fault because in the bearish market most of the project passing difficult time to collect funding. But many lazy hunters before read pinned message asking a lot of stupid questions.

All of the above negative is due to the current situation.
Many hunters are so tired from the fact that they work, and in return they are paid nothing, that they see scammers in every project.
Now every third project extends ico time, many bounty hunters see this as a bad sign. They understand that the long-awaited reward is postponed indefinitely.
As for the attached message in the telegram, sometimes the team itself is to blame for not publishing the general answers to the questions of the hunters, and sometimes it stops communicating at all.

bounty hunters that start advertising a scam ICO to help them rip people off shouldn't really complain whenever the same scammers scam them! they should actually expect being scammed because they are not an exception just because they are advertising the token!

I am one of those mentioned. But I am not really like them, You're right to your opinion and nothing wrong because ICO today was draining our patient but we need to be patient because we don't have anything to do. Only just wait the distribution and always active to up to date to every new updates from the team of the project. I saw a lot of impatient out there.

It's hard to be patient because you are investing time effort and money for several months we are only asking the rewards from bounty that have already reached soft cap or hardcap, one way or another bounty hunters have already experienced not getting paid.

well i cant blame you but surely it will come just a matter of time that market now is falling and all of the projects / ICO'S is doing their best to give a Good service to their investors just be patient its hardly to survive now a days. if the time comes they will give you what they promise :)

Agree with this... Mostly today, the more complains was coming from the Hunters and airdroppers which are i think sometimes already not good... Me as a bounty hunter i just think all my bounties as something like my leisure for evryday boredom... Although i know i will spend effort time money but for me as a risktaker, i just take it as if pays me thank you but if its not, charge to experience...and we should avoid spreading FUD or always saying bad words to the team... So investors also will not be confused too much...

We must work together, maintain good relations. For example, a few days ago I received a letter from the project Bravo (BVO), they explained in detail when the planned distribution of bounty, what is happening now and what their plans, although it was in the conditions of the bounty company, but they just reminded bounty hunter that we are less worried. I think it's very cool and now even after the bounty end I'm happy to support them.

Yeah it is a difficult time for ICO and bounty hunters, the ICO project now is in terrible situation, nobody care anymore for the project, the investors now is more focus on get profit by dumping the coin once it hit the exchanges, this also affect the bounty hunters, some of them got a very small reward and some need to wait for the distribution, so it need extra patience to become bounty hunter in this long bearish and uncertain market

If project deadline will extended most of the times also bounty will be extended how what can do bounty manager and doing job faster to finish the bounty.

It is not about reliability of project and the main thing is market conditions which dictates the ICOs. If we can see next bull run then it will be easy to get higher return on the investments. Bounty hunters are not patient and it is all about for majority of bounty hunters.

Yes we must ! We bounty hunters are usually demanding in terms of accepting our requests to the admins or bounty managers, in the distribution of rewards, giving of stakes and many other problems. But we must take note , that the duty of a bounty manager is not easy as we are expecting.

if you want to be a bounty hunter, of course you have to have high patience. because there are many bounty hunters who don't receive their tokens because they don't do the KYC or rules that have been set. many bounty hunters are waiting for tokens to be distributed for 30 days. I already felt this.

What I want is only the existence of a legality platform, which can optimize every project, with a platform like this that might reduce scam. Patience is important, but acting on fraud is more important

Before you can't be a good bounty hunter I think patience is the main Key To succed When you are dealing in crypto currency I see so many people causing commotion in telegram group chats and I see your point that they I just causing problems for the projects because new investors wont like what dey are seeing And as long as the projects are paidAnd you can see your token  in your wallet All you have to do is just weeds for the projects list.... simply .... stop Causing commotions

I experience being paid and not paid with my work. Being patient is the only thing I can do. Some send the payment immediately while others are not. Inspite of different situation I  got, waiting patiently is all I did. No bad words nor curse. I just wait.

I agree.  No need to once again use words that can characterize the project is not true, and confuse investors!

You are right, i am also of the same view. When the market is down and the project don't make much profit then bounty hunters will also suffer. There is nothing that can be done to solve this issue. Only thing that can happen is market, once it goes up then it'll be sorted out.

Yes some of here is right, but there are some way that the bounty hunters need to be that wild.
EXAMPLE: BITEX and XNEWS BOUNTY. which the TEAM ICO promised the distribution on the 25th of NOVEMBER.
that never occur and re schedule the distribution before the year ends.
Hunters wait patiently for the distribtuion but some of the participants got their tokens and more than 90% didnt.
How will you feel about it, they said that if the rewards will be sent then there will be a massive dump because of the bounty participants but didn't happened! why?
The token were listed to IDAX and RIGHT BTC, the price was at 19000 satoshis. but the price fall huge even with out the reward tokens from the bounty.

Have bounty hunters the ability to take more token than what he deserve by the equation of project distributer??I think project member should be more liberal to give the reward of bounty member.They worke for some token,and you should pay what you committed.

in this discussion it is very good to discuss, I often read this, in various bounties that are running or that have ended, many users say things that are not good about the bounty conditions, I have little opinion, with concepts, theories of customer satisfaction, very vulnerable, when satisfaction from customers is not fulfilled, so many words are born, in the group, in assessing the quality of a token, sometimes, saying words that are not good, receiving a token a little, or indeed being impatient, actually this is what happened to individual, or he lacks understanding, or he has a bad character and likes to defame other people, and not all of them, sometimes from the ICO, also not serving, and there is no honesty in discussions, both in terms of price, exchange, and not open, the sales target is not reached, so the bounty stops halfway, and makes the bounty hunter feel angry, because of the time huh wasted no results. then born dirty words in the discussion in the group. in my opinion, thank you.

Patience is one thing, we the bounty hunters, lack. The reason is most of us were actually living on the bounties and since the bounties has dried up, the livelihood of bounty hunters got affected very badly.

Until now there are still many bounty hunters who are safe and of course because they have high patience. Many failed Bounty projects and more scammers. Of course, this will be a problem that will never end. But we must continue to work hard and I am sure that by 2019 this will be the year for the Bounty.

I wish many will understand this great thought of knowledge you just shared but too many bounty hunters have been hurt already ,I'm talking about those who keep hoping for payments since almost a year now ,this is why I personally don't like the idea of ICO since it can only survive on funds ,it would be better if the teams behind every projects don't rely on people's funds anymore, I'm sure if they fund there projects themselves they won't even want to let go ,more seriously will occur sorry I might sound mean but that's the way things are now,even if investors manage to buy the tokens or coins it won't be easy to dispose off

here I am a person who has participated in a bounty, and rightly I feel disappointed because of the hard work and time that I gave was only in vain. maybe the cause of their words because it's too sick to wait. and as a human being, everyone must experience a point where they are disappointed. especially regarding money matters. luckily I am not someone who protracted in disappointment, but I only took important lessons, that we should be more careful.

Is good for bounty hunter to be patient but the truth of the matter is that the way some of the bounty manager treat bounty hunters is aberrant, I think that is why they behave somehow. The bounty manager should treat them with respect and explain to them whenever they ask question.

Many ICO projects extend the ICO period and I understand why many ICO projects extend the ICO period. The Crypto market is in a bad condition, investors are afraid to invest in the ICO project. Extending the ICO period is the right step, and hopes the market shows a positive trend.

What you say is true too, but I also don't blame bounty hunter who always ask the same question, I think they feel traumatized in the previous project when they worked completely without payment.
 As a wise bounty hunter, must pay attention to the road map and the development of the project, let them do their work when we see them doing development, and make an attractive impression so that investors don't panic, and surely they have the right reasons when they are late making payments to the bounty hunter.
 

If your basic necessity in life depends on the bounties you get from the projects doing ICO, you really would start worrying whether you'd eat the next day  ;D Believe it or not, there are some of us who are in such situation. It can cause the impatience on their end when after a year they were promised to have the amount and yet the project turned scam later on, its going to really make a bounty hunter mad.

Nice advise for bounty hunters how to act. But...bounty hunters on the other hand are those who lead the ICOs to the success in collecting enough funds. Without them there won't be so much exposure to the projects and the world hardly ever will know about them. So I think that bounty hunters deserve a better attitude and must be treated correspondingly!

I agree. We must be patient. I am a bounty hunter, sometimes annoyed to see a bounty hunter can't wait for the token distribution. In fact, they often ask without seeing past conversations. In fact, bounty hunters immediately sell their tokens without being patient waiting for high prices. That makes prices difficult to rise if too many sell their coins.

I think that bounty hunters are always obliged to adhere only to constructive behavior, and also to show a high level of intelligence and organization. This way we can more easily set aside our rights.

Hey man, I don't blame the hunter. Please read the post carefully.

That is one of the things I want to say. One of them always demanded while the project is in a state of being unable to raise more money.

I know what you mean.
But I think this is not satisfactory. Because even senior people on this forum are not sure of a certain ICO scam.

It was really great.
Besides ghost projects, those who aren't good (admin), there are many projects that care about us, or at least they understand, sympathize and motivate us.

This is so true, and every bounty hunter relates to this. As a bounty hunter, it is so sad to join on a failed project, and as of now although the project is successful, it is hard to wait for the bounty hunters to be rewarded, hoping for the time promised to be given the reward then ib the long run the bounty manager would say be patient to wait.

Bounty hunters should be more patient specially when getting their reward i know the team are doing their best to distribute all the rewards for their bounty hunters and also the team should be more responsible of that.

Cryptocurrency projects most often set their bounty budgets at around 1%-3% of the total hardcap so it is illogical to claim that the failure of the project is due to the actions of the 3% token holders who will most likely sell off for exchange prices.
Cryptocurrency projects need to work on providing better products for their investors. When this happens, wen if bounty hunters wants to sell off, there will be investors ready to buy and the price of the tokens will not dump hard like other projects

You are misunderstanding the problem. Please read the post carefully.

And as a bounty hunter, we also have to understand every risk that might occur. Scam, Ico failed, allocation deducted, rewards not distributed, low prices, etc., that is a risk that we must accept. We must obey every rule, read and understand it carefully, task and rule can change, we need to read so that what is mentioned in the OP can be avoided. Come on, become an educated bounty hunter :)

For me as a bounty hunter also feeling sad about that situation, it seems like the other bounty participant has less patient. What i know is that distributing bounty reward also need time to be done, the more participant will means more time needed to distribute the reward.

It is true, the bounty hunter must be patient and understand what the team is doing if indeed you can read the situation then this will definitely pay off. Ask and participate actively in seeking information so that bounty hunters can control emotions. I also often experience, without us being aware and continuing to follow the ICO every time it's finished and sometimes the distribution has been carried out long before I check the wallet, it turns out the project has been a year, and new tokens are coming in, this is still a fortune, thank God ...

Become bounty campaign participants needed more patient because when bounty campaign finished we have wait more than one month later for receiving payment, almost bounty campaign right now never distributed on time for reward.

A month is a great time for you to receive your token. I have been waiting for more than 6 months to receive tokens, but so far nothing has happened. The project is completely silent and cannot start public sale in this market, maybe I will have to wait more than 1 year to get those tokens

Having patience despite of not getting bounty rewards immediately, was too worst to think of. Many debts made me less financial capable these days due to suppressed income which comes from bounty earnings. Holding my tokens for a long time is deeply a struggle for all of us, and as part of the growing crypto economy I kept myself well driven by motivations coming from social media updates. I remain more active and courageous despite of the ongoing challenge of crypto world.

You cannot blame bounty hunters majority of them are not receiving their shares of the stakes, some of the reasons are failed KYC, shifting to a different wallet and bounty hunters are not aware of it, stakes not credited they just want a fair share of their hard work.

You have not read my post carefully.

Bounty hunters need to be away from the bounty hunting until the market looks healthy or else the useless projects will use your effotr to make money for them but you will be end up nothing.

Unfortunately, whenever token price dumps everyone blames bounty hunters, I mean they did their job, now it's up to them to sell or not, if you have so many problems with it, don't have bounty campaign at all.

Bounty hunters, there are those who are wise who choose to be quiet if they have heard the news and there are those who comment continuously, whether he is stupid or looking for more attention.

This is the very difficulty time for bounty hunters. Almost projects all delay the distribution time and not know when to be listed on exchange and nearly not recieve any things after the hard working time

They did it because they felt they had worked hard who certainly wanted to get rewards for what they had done. But by not having patience, they tend to be lazy to read the pinned message. This attitude is indeed not good but encourages the team to immediately distribute it which certainly has good and bad effects for their projects too, imho. I have passed a number of projects that have been forgotten just like that until now there are no rewards that I have received. If the admin has answered and given a clear explanation, then be patient enough and if that is forgotten then the bounty hunter does have to behave like that.

Yes!
I am referring to projects that have ended bounty but they are still in ICO time. The main problem is that they are very difficult to raise capital, they proactively announce the extension of ICO time. At least they have been working, I guess the hardship they suffer is many times more than the hunter. I just want the hunters do not cause undue pressure.

Many bounyy hunters are now suffering from waiting and just they are only promised to wait for their job to be rewarded. I think several of the bounty projects do thia kind of thing. It is so unfavorable on the side of bounty hunters like us, all they would just say is just wait and be patient.

I think if the dev with the teams can explain the situations which they face now to the bounty hunters, the participants will understand too. They will still give support to the project even if the project has a problem, they will help and keep supporting the project, and they don't say any bad words to the project.

But so far, the dev and the teams don't say any words except wait for another announcement from us, be patient for a while, the project continues, the token will distribute and else. This makes the bounty hunters get mad because they feel they give support to the project but later, they don't get any explanations from the admin.

I think if the admin can open their mind and tell all participants about the situations, I am sure that everything will be okay and there will be no problem among them. It's very difficult to find the project which can explain to the participants about everything that is happening including the situations in the project itself.

But you know what, even if they are not gonna list in the exchange we have to be paid because we have already worked so many months.

This is a difficult situation because of course they also want to try their best and can make all bounty hunters get paid. I personally am more patient in facing such situations. As long as the Team and Developer are still active, of course, we can still rely on it. There are many problems like this, in the end, there are parties who are profitable and some experience disappointment.

Indeed, as a bounty hunter, you must always be patient to get rewarded, even though the situation is alarming, we must be able to understand what the team is doing in developing the project, and certainly give the best to all of their supporters.

I do complain in such bounties if necessary like so delay in distributing the rewards until it will go for nothing which is you will be scam. Its not easy to fulfill the task and help them deliver into success. But, despite that I'd never experienced saying bad words nor in telegram or I bounty threads. I let them free instead and I let bad karma will take care of them.

Actually, that is what must be done. Patience is the key to everything. But it must be remembered that the Team and developers must also care about the bounty hunter. Because there is usually a team that does not care about the bounty hunter. Even though we work together to promote their projects to be known by many people.

After around 5 campaign and never get payout from those campaigns you will get impatient, you will fight for your rights to get paid I missed payout from my last 3 campaign because I missed the campaign and doing a follow up, some campaign like that if you don't do follow up you will lose payment.

There will be no complaints made by the bounty hunter to the developer, if all commitments are done correctly according to what was made before. for this reason, if the project wants to be successful, then it must be able to carry out the commitments they have made, and one of them is to give gifts at the promised time, so that everything will go well and allow the tokens to have more meaning and enable the project to run well and achieve success. Because the success of a project is the hope of everyone who has an interest in the project.

many hunters feel impatient because ICO often delay payments even though hunters are not beggars. they were considered hunters as a beggars not to regard as partners. the success of their project thanks to the hard work of the hunters. without bounty hunters their project are nothing. as a bounty hunter we have right to request payment ASAP if the project succeed.

Most of the bounties are not like this before. The bounties actually pay on time and they always do what they promised which is really great. I don't know why this thing happens they also talk about the market situation that is why the coins are delayed. But it's been months and I haven't received anything from the bounty that I'm not going to mention. And now, the last bounty that I have joined promised on a day this February, but haven't paid yet. But I trust the second one because it is really successful. But the first one, it's going to be better if they're going to claim it as a scam so I am not hoping that I will receive anything anymore.

My friend, I don't care if the complaints from bounty hunters on the telegram channels destroy the project's reputation or not. If the ICO does not want such annoying complaints, they should learn to always pay bounty hunters on time.

Bounty hunters are not patient in waiting of their tokens, because the distribution of their token are so slow and sometimes 2 or 3 months before they get their tokens, that's why they're not patient in waiting and always complaining and asking how's their tokens.

Bounty hunters are always patient
We endure change in terms of bounty programs
We endure underserved kyc procedure
We endure postponed token distribution plan

And we even end up doing runaway scam bounties

What more can an Hunter do to be patient ??

Bounty bunder are the backbone of crypto industry as they promote the ico and help in raising fund. They are already patience as they keep on waiting for the reward of their hardwork. Sometime project proove to be scam some time their value is so low that they become useless. Even after this obstacle they keep on doing their hardwork

It is not easy to be patient while a lot of projects owe you money and don't want to pay bills. Does anyone want to stay without any payment for a long period of time ?

We are all human beings, both bounty managers and bounty hunters I am referring to here. Why majority of hunters do complain is that, team/devs/BMs are mostly not being straight forward with their says and don't let their intention known. Bounty hunters should be carried along by when exactly they should expect payment as they need to feed and get the necessary needs that make them enjoy life as well, this will positively enhance their productivity (hunters). 

Bounty hunters don't receive the praises they are due, I remember when I used to participate in social media campaigns, I knew what I went through daily just to post about the projects on my social media accounts but in the end you receive little to no nothing for your time, effort and resources. Bounty hunting is just like every other job and hunters have the right to voice their frustrations.

I am patient but there are times when devs simply are joking and won't pay bounty hunters...they continue to delay the payments months after months and that's not fair.

When I was starting to work with the cryptocurrencies, it was really very difficult for me to be patient. Now, I understand that you have to learn to wait and only, in this case, you will not lose but get more profits.

I also feel the same way, it is very difficult for the patient because very often the project manager disappoints the bounty hunter, when many complain that the manager should provide certainty to participants about payment issues so they can calm down.

I think we need to be more patient in this phone because the Sridhar the situation was most critical and it Railway very tough and to be in this situation when the payment was not been paid by bounty it will not anyone mistakes the situation makes the most risks in this field.

yes it's true is not a good time for the icos but the covenants must be clear from the begining the team/bounty manager must specify that the ico/bounty could be extended and in this case will be added x tokens to the bounty distribution that happens after 2/4 weeks after the end of the ico i think this way no bounty hunter would complain

Thanks for the advice but is that really work?
I mean if you look at some tokens you will see some of them have been 1/10 of their ATH and I don't know if they ever can recover again!
The patient is a wise decision if you are holding the right coins or tokens.

If you have already collected a huge amount of different tokens, just keep going and wait for the better market conditions. The trick is that on the bullish market these tokens will be very valuable and you will get amazing profit.

I really understand what you are saying about two conflicting elements between hunters and ICO projects. The conclusion I took was to explain the adverse effects that we might not realize and the important point to collaborate well between hunters and ICO managers in building successful projects. There are many other things that I want to convey, but at least people will understand, because the fact is that it is difficult and on the other hand sometimes we have done it well, there are other things that interfere.

Numerous bounty hunters are so drained from the way that they work and consequently, they are paid nothing, that they see tricksters in each task. Presently every third undertaking expands ICO time, numerous abundance seekers consider this to be an awful sign. They comprehend that the hotly anticipated reward is delayed inconclusively.

Concerning the appended message in the wire, here and there the group itself is at fault for not distributing the general responses to the inquiries of the seekers, and in some cases it quits imparting by any stretch of the imagination.

It seems to me that it is very difficult to be patient, if we take into account that for almost the entire 2018 year of exhausting work, I did not receive any good reward for my work. Despite the fact that all the Bounty companies did not give earnings for bounty hunters, yes, you need to take into account the fact that the amount of work was still done in full.

It gets to a stage that it becomes difficult for one to be patient. I have done some bounties that has almost gotten to a year and no payment since, for how long should one be patient on that? It's very discouraging, after all the hard work. Well, we have no other choice than to wait.

The worst thing for me as a bounty hunter - when bounty manager changes the rewards distribution method from fixed to staked or vice versa. In my opinion every bounty campaign should follow their own rules very strict without any significant and unnecessary deviation.

I'm also annoyed by the constant whining in groups.and the same questions, when listing and when there will be payments.is it really not clear that in such a market situation there is simply no point in waiting for good returns from the bounty.

The team already set aside a certain amount of tokens for the bounty campaign and the rules with it. Once the work is done they should do the distribution. Imagine at work if your boss refused to pay you after several months of work, you'd be annoyed right?

On the other hand, ICO teams now also very rarely fulfill their promises, even with the heavy time period for ICO. All ICO teams first promise that tokens will be sent to the wallets we specify. However, in practice, in most cases this is not happening. During the ICO, they arbitrarily switch to security tokens, stocks, other types of wallets, sending tokens to their sites in our profiles, their exchanges, and so on. Due to such changes, I personally in most cases do not receive tokens at all. And what is the cost of passing a KYC check even a few months after the end of the ICO? That we should no longer work in the new campaigns of the ICO bounty, but only reread hundreds of their telegrams so as not to miss anything and not lose the right to receive earned tokens?
Before such a disgrace was not.

Most of the projects are not very much fundraising during the ico, I think due to the fact that the market is still present in most bears , and this in this market only need to wait

That is correct, duo very high bitcoin price in 2017 it was easy to collect funds which is very hard nowadays thus projects are too greedy and they are trying to collect more money than they need.
Another reason is many investors lost money and they don't want to go near ICO's.

Yes that's right, I often experience this when the project is finished, but the project owner is delaying the distribution of Bounty for the campaigns that I follow, and that is very annoying, why are we not valued as campaign Bounties ?

Yeah, I understand what you mean. And that is right, Bounty hunters must also be patient to receive tokens from the results of their work.
And Preferably, bounty hunter discuss about bounty campaign in the telegram group that have been provided to discuss bounty campaign. And also don't discuss the issue of bounty campaigns in the telegram group of the global community. I think every Project has provided a group for bounty hunters and group for the global community.
So, if you are a bounty hunter, then ask the Bounty campaign issue on the telegram group that has been provided for Bounty campaign. Don't discuss about bounty campaign in the telegram group of the global community, because it will disturb investors' comfort.

If you can't patient about your token reward from bounty campaign, never joining at bounty campaign project forever, almost of bounty campaign on this year always delay for distributing their reward after price is dump on market.

You will not receive anything if you try to hold the token from the bounty. 100% of those projects will die over time and those tokens will definitely be dumped, so it's best to sell when possible

It all also has a reason where bitcoin is experiencing a big decline. and if the market is opened, it is worried that the price of the token will also be destroyed. this is a solution that must be done by dev

As the bounty hunter, I know what you mean. Yes in crypto world, patient in number one, to sell or buy, we must wait until we get the ideal price. For the payment will wait until deliver the payment as long as the dev or bounty manager still in the group and keep give information/ann/news about it.

In market conditions such as at present the bounty hunters must be patient to receive their rewards, the most important thing is to believe that they will still receive payments from work for months even though it's a long payment period

Some of the bounty hunters lose their patience because some of the ico pay their bounty hunters a little late or they had delay the payment. I think they just do this because they think they might not get token and honestly bounty hunters too render hours depends on the bounty they join. They don't want their work gone wasted but i agree that we should be patience maybe there are some setbacks that happen to the distribution just don't rant at the telegram because as you said it might get worse if some investor feel that the ico is bad.

That should be a risk that every dev is facing. They should be able to keep their promises when they are distributing their tokens. When this is postponed, it is very likely that there will be a mistrust of the users, this should be avoided because if it happens it will create a bad image of the project.

As bounty hunter i always patiance for anything. Im running 9 months bounty right now and need 1 more month for distribution. I hopes they fulfill their promise to ours. But patiance have a limit its normal if bounty hunters used bad word to team if they dont fulfill their promises.

Bounty hunters not also wait for their bounty tokens reward and always complaining for that. They spreading bad words and ruined the ico project.

After doing your share you are expecting rewards and if that will be delayed or not being paid for sure you will get mad and start doing things that
will make things worse, being patience and learn to let go is very important think of it just a learning path for you to select good one and seperate
it from the bad  ones, experienced will teach you how to judge accordingly avoiding not to do the same mistake.

Patience and being calm even you thing that you are entitled to gained, who knows after that you will gained much better.

For sure, patience is needed for bounty hunters to get paid, because they have worked optimally, but of course all of them need process and time, and they must be patient to receive the most important rewards the results are worth the things they do

Not only in crypto sphere l,in every aspect of life,you need patient,there are times that we may have delay over somethings but if we can be patient enough, we will surely find our way around it but not in all cases,there are times that most of these bounty programs are just nonsense, they are not ready yet they keep making promises upon promises wasting the precious time of bounty hunters.

And the most important thing after receiving that its price somehow covered investment in the project. Only then can we hope for its growth and further prosperity.

now is a period of downtrend, many ICO projects have postponed the token allocation process for bounty hunters, I don't understand why many bounty hunters still want them to allocate tokens even though the token has not been listed exchanges ?

Prize hunters always understand the risks in the cryptoqurency world including failure when investing with scam projects or promoting the ico project. yes we know that market conditions that do not support so slowing down the growth of the ico project even makes investors think twice about investing with ico. a good project when dev is really serious about developing ico at an early stage up to sales in the market too.

The bounty hunter, in my opinion, is the most patient person. When many projects that experience affected failures are bounty hunters. Because they lose time and their work is not appreciated. But when this bounty hunter receives coins and enters the exchange market. The price of the coin immediately collapsed due to Dump. Although like that, Bounty Hunters still want to survive in Crypto.

What bounty hunters do is already patient, despite being hit by a scam, they are still trying to get a truly high quality project. Then getting and participating must wait for the token and if the market enters, the value is also low, and still patient to get more valuable . This continues to be done by bounty hunters, and seeing tokens still remains low, so it is appropriate to have to throw them away.

Most bounty projects purposely delay and extend the ICO/allocation of tokens because of the market situation and they are trying to see if the market conditions would improve,hence they keep extending already fixed dates in the hope of a better market which will mean a successful project most times.
I feel for bounty managers at this very moment,its not easy handling a project right now,the chances of success are very slim

I see no views and repy from bounty hunters about this thread.
As that, it's been know from the inception of hunters, that hunters can't never be patient as everybody wonna get fast money as fast as possible and this isn't bounty hunters thing.

You're right, the success of the project depends on how the devs do their job to pursue on their goal. Not that bounty hunters has low input but because the project has low sales and less interaction with the public to promote their platform.

Indeed, just look at that one of the entire ICOs that have telegram as their group chat. You will see most of them are talking about bounty shits and doesn't care about the actual update at all, most of hunters nowadays are just let their ego feed them.

What do you expect from them?

for bounty hunter we have to wait to distribute our token because not just giving the tokens to the participant especially when the bounty is over for a month to distribute the tokens to the bounty hunter but it depends sometimes too much of the bounty distribution is also sometimes up to 2-3months depending on the owner's response to the project once more ico terminates before distributing the token but that's exactly how I've encountered a bounty that the admin does not say scam is their bounty so often bounty hunter is waiting for you so risky as well as bounty so before joining check first well before you join the bounty you just want to join in order not to waste your time and work on the bounty you join.

What has been in the agreement should and will always be followed. If the devs will keep on extending the fixed date, then what's the use of the agreement in the first place. Whether the market is not in good condition, they should give the rewards to the bounty hunters. They're done promoting the project, they deserve to get what they are working for.

As a bounty hunter you must have patience, the mindset of getting profit easily is not good because most of the project are good for long term since they need time to collect enough funds. If you’re in a hurry then trading is good for you.

Not to all scenario that a bounty hunter should be patient. We know the current bear market affects mostly of the project but to think of what they promised should be retained and not just by doing things like reducing bounty rewards and etc. I have been to a lot of bounty projects lately that failed and did not give any rewards sad life.

In general, you are right, you do not need to once again create a bad image of the project, but on the other hand, how to be if the team constantly postpone the deadlines!

Bounty hunter are not patient especially while waiting their tokens on the project that they joined to work, and they are not patient because the distributor of their tokens are so slow to distribute that's why the reason is.

Of course bounty hunters will get angry if they are not paid on time right? There are so many bounties that have a timeline for their bounty payment like two weeks or 1 month the token will be paid but it takes 6 months or even a year before it commence? Those ICOS that cannot commit on their promised must not start a bounty campaign let them just market by themselves so they will not be obliged to pay.

many project in last year 2018 was tally their ICO price in the market in the great price. but when the market went down all ICO project are also broke they cant even produce the exact token because of financial loss in the project.. their still waiting for the bull season to produce that token in the market.. that's why many bounty hunters are still waiting until now..

Its easy to be patient but its also easy to lose patience when you are unable to get paid for what you have worked for and the value keeps depreciate as the day goes by at this stage people lose patience and you cant blame them for it

Yes I agree with you mate most of the bounty hunters are not really good in reading those pinned message in the telegram group. And think they must learn to be patient and try to understand the distribution of their rewards is in process that will take time because participants are not that small in bounty campaigns depending and also depending on the tasks they participated.

patience is really needed for bounty hunters, actually not only for bounty hunters, for anyone patience is needed to do any business.
especially when market conditions are not good and many projects fail, project fraud and so on.
so you have to research the Bounty Campaign you are following, and you have to be patient to wait, because it requires a process and it is not as easy as imagined.

and now too many bounty hunter that have no patience disturbing coins price.most of them selling their reward cheaply.and also usually they ask the same questions oftenly.in my opinion it will make developers team  fell bad.we have to avoid all of this habit if we want to appreciated by them.

In fact a new trend in bounty hunting where half of a token will locked for a certain period of time at the detriment of bounty hunters, the excuse is that they wanted to avoid dumping of coins and to maintain the price. The hunters are having a difficult time now even as cryptocurrencies is red.
hunters has to persevere and be patient if possible and wait for a green market.

yes we bounty hunters must be patient let the devs focus their project, we will get paid soon if their project is done so let's just wait and move on to another bounty.

Even the guy that has no one cent initially can start doing the Bounty tasks. If he has enough patience and ready to spend much time, soon he will earn. And for example mining needs great investments in the equipment. So be patient, earn tokens and wait bulls!

When the tokensale of a project has not ended yet, I do not even think it is right to pay bounty hunters, the most important thing is to end the sales, that is when bounty hunter tokens would be considered and bounty hunters should try not to make an issue out of this.

It requires sooo much patience and perseverance. The market for bounty campaigns is also very difficult now and the campaigns are suffering heavy losses. + a lot of cheating

There are different situations. It happens like you say. There are also situations when you have to tick information from representatives of the project. The dates indicated in the white paper are violated, but there are no new announcements. That is why many bounty hunters have a negative attitude towards the project.

We bounty hunters are patiently waiting as always but the management of the bounty or ico we joined are lazy to process what we need and what we worked for them so say it that we need patience! not all the time we are in patient.

the name of the bounty hunter does have to have high patience, the risk of failure ico is also the failure of the bounty hunter to get paid, I think this is a kind of game that has two possibilities, namely failure or success

Indeed patience must be owned, not only bounty hunters but everyone, let alone plunge into crypto trading. Patience to get success is fun, patience because failure is also not easy.
And naturally, bounty hunters often complain with ICOs that don't provide accurate information.

but right now most of the projects for the distribution of tokens are indeed quite long, so inevitably they have to be patient to wait because now it's not the same in 2017

Patience is my middle name :) I agree that we really can't do anything when the project extends. When they extend ICO, it means they're having a hard time raising funds which would mean that bounty payments might be affected specially if they will not reach their soft cap. I'd say get as many projects as you can, handle it well. And who knows maybe even just 5 0r 10 percent will be converted to real rewards lsooner than later. Goodluck to us all!

As a bounty hunter, we must be more careful in following the bounty campaign. look at various aspects so that there is no deep disappointment because you don't get paid for what you are doing. I suggest taking part in a bounty campaign that pays with bitcoin currency.

Actually with a time longer than a year, it was already considered unreasonable to not be paid by the bounty campaigns that we have joined, that is too much, I guess you should report it in a way that they can be opened for their hunters community.

What OP wants to tell is true but for that the solution can be the token which were set for bounty can be held with escrow so that bounty hunters should not be in afraid that if the ICO is extended and when they start to send bounty tokens they should not scam them. This is why bounty hunters are getting afraid when the ICO gets extended but campaign is not extended.

I can speak only about myself in this case. I always try to wait patiently for the distribution of rewards and usually prefer to ask questions to managers in personal messages if there are any problems. And I agree that numerous questions "when the token distribution?" sometimes tiring, because you can always use the search and see who has already asked this question.

I believe that for this there should be a chat - separately for the bounty of the company, and all those who raise panic in the chat room, where investors are sitting, should be banned.

I am a bounty hunter, I am very patient to wait for tokens to be shared. My experience in being a bounty hunter is that many bounties are delaying distribution because they are afraid of a dump. I was very disappointed with the admin's decision because it wasn't on schedule.

honestly, many tokens that feel like garbage because of the long process of listing to the market exchange. Over 8 months is the longest since I joined the bounty campaign. in the previous time, 4 months was enough to be able to withdraw. but back again, we really have to follow a situation like this too, so being patient is the key.

Patient not only the key for sure, I got so many shitty tokens in my wallet around 3 years and it's really garbage tokens. Bounty hunters should choose their company more wisely and do more researches before begin to promote ICO.

Most of the projects don't follow their roadmap mainly because of the market situation. They postpone their main sale but will accept private investments to sustain their operations. As for their fear of dump, their concerns are useless since most of the ICOs after listing dump anyway.

maybe the bounty hunters have been patient a lot but what they get seems like their patience is not comparable to the results they get so it would be very natural for the hunter hunters to be disappointed by the many delays in the ICO they participated in.

At the moment, we are only dying to endure and wait! And also to hope that the payment will not just come, but come really!

There haven't been much income for bounty hunters for some time and they are very much frustrated. Prolonged bearish market and a lot of scam projects have made things difficult for bounty hunters, so they are losing patience.

In fact, bounty hunters are not investors but employees, they don’t give a damn about the success of the project and the rise in the price of the token in the long term. In real life, if you did the work and you were not paid for it, will you be patient?

This is so true. See, the job of every bounty hunters is to promote the project that they are working. If they are spreading rumors and bad things about it, then it is like you violated your job and you should be fired from doing that. I guess bounty hunters should have some manners because they are thinking high of themselves already. I am not talking about all of the bounty hunters because I know some that is very honest and have manners when working.

Some projects are not just ready for the market. Some of them are afraid of listing, because they know that their tokens will plunge if they should, so what they can just do is to wait until they have a good profit to offer and to build hype around the project. At this point, bounty hunters just have to learn how to wair.

From my point of view, you are absolutely right. It is very important  that bounty Hunters should keep them updated engaging in telegram community. They should always check, research on current and previous updates in the channel about the project progress.
I have seen that many, asks questions like "when distribution?", and group admin, politely answers to read the above message or pinned message.
Being patient is the key thing what bounty Hunters need to do. Even if it was work of 8-10 weeks, it's obvious that for distribution it will take another few weeks.
Keep updating ourselves on projects which we worked on and at the same time keep working on new project with positive attitude will definitely bring more and more rewards.

for the problem there is no project that ends without paying a bounty in my opinion it is very untrue in fact it has often happened for a long time and if we are not lucky maybe we will find that project, if what I often meet most bounties still pay rewards but with reduced supply for certain reasons there are also projects that have received a lot of funds but still cut allocations, for FUD it is indeed difficult to avoid because some hunters only care about their rewards which can be exchanged for money

How can you learn to just wait if the bounty campaign is the main income? if we are not paid, we will have nothing to eat. no need to wait.

Project team should know that most bounty hunters see the promotion of projects as transitional work and whatever they get from them are seen as stipends. Very few bounty hunters believe in the future of the projects the promote.

It is true that participants in bounty campaigns need to be very careful.
Now it is very difficult to find a decent campaign that can meet your expectations.
Of course, first of all, you need to check the development team and make sure that these are real people who are responsible for their actions and will not deceive you.

I also hope that the cryptocurrency market will recover. It seems to me that the bounty industry again dance as popular and profitable as it was before.

This is what we need. Actual support from bounty hunters. Everyone is pissed off when he opens his wallet and finds nothing inside. However, most of the projects are doing their very best to raise the funds needed to start the project in that particular way and they are excited when they are able to give their tokens to people who are probably going to say just those good things connected with their startup. We are on the same boat and the success of the team is our success as well. Some bounty hunters on Telegram think otherwise, unfortunately and this does not provide a good image to both sides :(.

as a bounty hunter we are indeed required to be patient in waiting for the distribution of tokens, I always wait patiently for tokens that
I get to have a high enough value in the market, although I often get shitcoin, but I don't despair and keep looking for bounties that
have good projects and produce high-value tokens

I'm a very patient bounty hunter. I have been involved in one bounty company for almost a year and it is quite difficult, but I am more than sure that my work will not be in vain.

We must also have ratios and mature thoughts.
We must not impose circumstances by our will.
Crypotcurrency continues to drop in price and it's not good to invest in it.

Maybe it's better to stop first and when the market is bullish then we go back to the world of cryptocurrency.

i see your projects already run almost in a year, and there is no certainity when it ended.but it will good to you if able to survive in this campaign.someday when othere bounty hunter left the campaign you will get much reward.

Often blamed on the proce dumped by tokens are the bounty hunters. but it is not for the bounty hunters that it is the fault of the investors but because of the cryptocurrency market situation. however, bounty hunters are always waiting to see how high the price is always to spend on working or promoting projects and often being paid incorrectly.

but it is undeniable that bounty hunters also contribute to price dumping.most of them want to earn money as their work reward.moreover in current situation its hard to earn money from market.

That cannot be escaped, bounty hunters are urgently needed the payment because their motivation is losing when the bounty pays too long, I think we should take the bounty hunters into consideration.

Being a bounty hunter is very risky and must also be patient. because we know that now there are so many projects that are scam and make us have to be careful in participating in existing projects

Well, not all bounty participant are a patient people. Some people able to patiently wait for month on the distribution, and some have no patient to even wait for just a week or so. So we can't really judge the bounty participant with the same treat.

Patience is like a part of bounty hunter's life. Due to long bear market, a lot of ico projects decided to postpone the distribution. I think it's fine if bounty hunter's payment got postponed as not all of things go as planned but it depends on how long it takes. Not of all bounty hunters are patient. Some of them take bounty campaign as their main job so i can understand those who want to get paid asap.

I have been involved in many projects; some bounty hunters are terrible. They do not know that their contributions/questions affects the projects positively or negatively. Many will ask you questions they already knows the answer while some will talk against it. At the end of those their silly questions, investors will start PMing you, and asking you questions based on the issues the bounty hunters raised.

Some projects never failed they reached their hardcap projects such as Envion, Current even PDATA almost reached her hardcap yet nothing for the hunters do you still preach patience here. It's been a year plus now for some projects yet they never paid.

on average it has been more than 6 months since a bounty hunter has not been paid yet, so it has been almost a year of work but has not yet received income. I think it's time for a long time if usually within 2-4 months is enough to be paid. but come back again, be patient and surely the time will come to get income.

I could not say that all the bounty hunters are being patience everytime because they will keep always asking questions about their rewards and the team are always making excuses during the distribution of the token. Bounty hunters should be rewarded for their hard work for the project.

Not all of the bounty hunters but probably most of them.
It's necessary to be patient at this time if we want to have a better value, we have to wait until the market fully recovers
and the really requires us to hold longer since the recovery has just started and we can't rush things.

Slowly rise is always better as long as it's constant than a pump and dump game.

I participated in a bounty starting in June 2018. And until now their roadmap is public sale in June 2019. So I will have to wait more than 1 year to get the token, the value may be several $. It's too long to receive rewards from our work

For bounty hunters, they must be patient for those who will receive the rewards that have become their right because for the payment it definitely takes a long time because there is a process that will be passed first, the important thing is they must be sure and trust the payment they will receive. front of it later

Indeed bounty hunters already have a high message in waiting for the distribution of prizes, but this often happens to delay and enter in exchange has a low value so that hunters still have to be patient to have more value.

Without have patient as bounty hunter you will be lost every thing with bounty campaign project, many bounty campaign participants less patient and give up with many bounty is not paid and left bounty campaign project forever.

Thats what hunters do if they didn't get the token on the promise date, i think its better if the bounty manager has a great explanation in why and what happen if a payment distribution is delayed. I think for preventing FUD in ICO its better to have a great communication to their community ;)

Indeed, all in fact it is. Bounty hunters is one of the many marketing tools that works to draw attention to the project and disseminate information about it on the Internet and offline. When a new project is at the hearing and has daily news updates it will draw the attention of a large number of people and be interested in it. Another interesting point that I noticed .Most bounty hunters are investors themselves.

Escrow seems like a necessary solution for bounties now, regardless of the outcome, labor is labor and project owners need to unconditionally

reward their marketers, at least in part, independent of what happens to the ICO...

It depends on how long the due of distribution. I think vice versa saying patient but what if you dont received it in more than a year. Patient will be lost probably in this long waiting. Still we dont have any choice but to wait and so useless to say something FUD. Wait and wait is all we can do.

It's natural that there are many people and that's the risk of every bounty project hunters always chase on their telegram channels ...
And for me personally, I just need to just look at the development of the project, because what I feared was that we would pursue it instead we would not get..!!

A bounty Hunter must be patient and be able to handle situations such as waiting for the token distribution. This can be said to be a risk because they might not get anything. even if the price of the token is a dump, a bounty hunter will only cry. this has often happened because the selection of the right projects will determine whether the bounty hunter benefits or even gets nothing.

what if you already recieve your coins but the problem is that they dont have a value and what more worst is that you already hold and wait for about 2 years  . this scenario do already happen to me  . its almost two year now but the coins that i recieved from a bounty still doesnt have any  value  . not just one or two but there were almost 10's of them   . the truth is  patience just wont work all the time .

If people know that the bounty coin in which they invested will be yielding the result then they need to patiently wait for the bull run to begin. Once it happens your coin will rise and grow at faster pace. But without patience nothing will happen in this field.

Bountyh hunters have worried recently because many scam projects are out. Therefore, they are constantly questioning. I agree with the ICO process on projects. I need to be patient. However, some project managers do not bother to answer questions. Should the investor or the Bounty hunters be asked the question should be answered. This will increase the reliability of the project.

Well, we cannot blame other hunters if they have been impatient. A bounty is usually done in a month or two. Sometimes, it went so long for more than 3 months, which is understandable because the project hardly finds investors in difficult times as this. Then after it's over, they will have to wait for months of distribution (many projects do not distribute at all), exchange listing, etc. Endless waiting! But if you'll analyze things, all these are because of the recession in the market. Everyone (devs, hunters, investors, traders) is affected by it. The market literally leaves everyone with no choice but to patiently wait. If we will not do so, then we're all heading nowhere. Patience is indeed a virtue, and only those who possess it succeed, especially in this highly volatile crypto world.

No doubt I still got the feeling of 'long gone are the days'when bounty hunters are happy ,bounties are hot cake in the past and its know the most target for scammers too,the only thing we hunters are lacking now is patience because this present condition will not stay forever and we will notice good days like 2017 in the future someday

The bearish state of crypto market affected much of the coins and ICOs prices so we have to wait for more and continue to be patience until it recover. Many of the bounties I participated had a hard time reaching their soft or hard cap and some are opted to delay the list ing of their tokens in the exchange until the market is fully recovered. To avoid waste of time joining a scam bounty, make a full research first to find a legitimate one.

They are bounties that have lasted for more than 8 months . The truth is that for such a project you cannot blame the hunter who is obviously impatient considering that the rule had said that payment would be made perhaps in two months time. I think it takes a lot patience to still be expectant of a payment after such long delay

We are not asking any % from their supply they themselves design for bounty people, Yes, you are right labour is always labour company owners should understand with our marketing some companies are reaching their desired their target hard cap in order to achieve their goals. Bounty tokens should be escrowed in order to get our bounty token after crowdsale in a specific time.

You are right. In official telegram channels full of bounty questions right now and no one can talk about the project. I think the main reason to that problem is the projects always pays to bounty hunters projects coins. That is making lots of problem. If the projects pays to hunters in Ethereum or Bitcoin, or any coin which is on Top50. The problem would solve if the devs act in this way.

From my own experience i can say that bounty is not profitable. I participated in many bounty through telegrams and other social networks, but i received tokens that cost nothing or did not receive at all. As far as managers of bounty are concerned, i can say that I took part in 4 bounty in one of the managers but did not receive any rewards because after finishing bounty, the project team does not act honestly and is constantly inventing something new. Instead of distributing tokens on the mew walllet, they change the conditions and force people to register on some of their platforms or exchanges to receive rewards,not to mention the fact that they are constantly forced to fill in 3-4 google form after the ending bounette specifically to delay the distribution of tokens

Points raised here are all salient ones and if adhered to will help a lot. Bounty hunters need to understand that they are partners with the project teams and need not do anything that will look like shooting oneself on the foot. Driving FUD will never help you receive payment rather the project will die for lack of patronage. But I think paying hunters with Ether or Bitcoin and not the coins that are being promoted will help.

If people do not have enough patience, then many bounty campaigns can keep your results current and you can leave the campaign without losing your stakes.

not all bounty manager allowed us to leave campaign in the middle periode.usually they explain about this rules in their thread.some managers allowed and some is not.make sure to manager if we leave campaign we will get our stakes.

That shows that bounty hunters have really bad times currently, they fear that they will not receive their tokens.
This is caused by many scam bounty campaigns, so you can not be surprised ;).

All of them are now patient with market conditions that have not improved. but indeed we also have to be able to stay positive and also be patient if many projects fail

That is why some projects creates another telegram for bounty hunters so that the official telegram will not be flooded by hate and fud that affects the perception of investors or possible investors to the project. It is the nature of bounty hunters to inquire about the distribution since they made a lot of effort to market the project.

Yes but it would be much better if hunters get paid regardless right?  Ive had many projects where they get promoters way ahead of their token sale. So  workers work for months and the project ends up not meeting softcap. too bad.

I always patient , but it is not that easy to be patient, you know. When you lose vast majority of your funds, then you become impatient.
That's what I am saying

I feel the same. They look at most hunters as beggars perhaps. Hahaha, but yeah other hunters are rude to be fair with other BM. But not all. I feel like its your right to ask for the tokens you worked so hard for. So BM should not take it negatively whenever hunters are asking about token distribution.

Indeed, that words is true. Sometimes things are urgent and/or the other way isn't work, not us the bounty hunters who are not able to be patient. Even then the value obtained from the work is often not in line with expectations.

But quite a lot of campaigns if they stop participating in the middle, bounty hunter will lose all stakes they have obtained before. And when I first joined, I still didn't know if the project was completely good

I understand that as long as we keep the tokens from bounty campaigns, the value is gone. So now I decided to sell the coming token immediately. So patience may not work very well.

You said that market, bounty hunters etc. are guilty in some ICO unsuccess. But the reason is only that ICO team have no plans other than catch money from investors and dissapear. Unfortunatelly hunters have only instrument of public channels to spread the word about that ICOs

I am really patient, but you know, crypto is something different and here patient isn't enough to suceed. From my point of view you can waste a lot of time being patient.

Cease to participate in bounty programs, the forum has enough spam and other garbage. What are you doing this for? To be deceived later? To have your tokens frozen? For the sake of waiting 4-10 months to enter the stock exchange?

A portion of the abundance seekers lose their understanding since a portion of the ico pay their abundance seekers somewhat late or they had postpone the installment. I think they simply do this since they figure they probably won't get token and sincerely abundance seekers also render hours relies upon the abundance they join. They don't need their work gone squandered yet I concur that we ought to be tolerance perhaps there are a few mishaps that happen to the appropriation simply don't rage at the wire in light of the fact that as you said it may deteriorate if some financial specialist feel that the ico is terrible.

You are right, there's sometimes a lot of impatience and skepticism expressed by bounty hunters who haven't received rewards in a timely fashion and it's not always justifiable and can have a negative impact on public perception, but there's a bot that can help manage those types of comments and some campaigns clearly state that no discussions of this nature can be conducted in the official groups (which usually gets ignored) so all a projects team can do if they're distributing late is provide reassurance and then instruct the bounty campaign manager to communicate with their participants pro-actively

That's the negative thing you will get, you have to know when to stop and when to enter.
Market condition now is not nice, bounty hunters are not compensated well, in addition, scammers are everywhere, you should value your time more.
Probably the best idea now is just to focus on finding a stable job, don't rely too much on bounty, it's like an investment, not all the time you are profitable.

whats the connection of market condition and scammers from doing bounties  ?  if you are not lazy and if you are knowledgeable enough on how bounty ico work ,  i know that you can profit on them because you can choose a good and legit one . before i forgot , you also need to be patient because doing bounty takes time  as they usually run for more than 3 to 4 months   .  though i agree on the last sentence that you throw above  .  finding and prioritizing stable jobs are much better   .  

Maybe most of the bounty hunters now became patience on waiting because of the bull run they believed in.
Even though the bear market has been running for a long period of time already. Aside from that, even there are lot of ico campaign
that has been rise in this business, still let us continue to seek a legit campaign project for the bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters need to wait until the market starts recovering because of we sell the bounty campaign it is impossible for us to make good amount of money. We can hold them until once the market starts recovering their prices in the market. So patience is always key thing that we need to follow in the market when the market is in down trend.

Even most of the tokens didn't hit any exchanges since 2017 which shows that why no to to bounties at the moment but we can see still plenty of people were doing bounties as their job and expecting to make the money soon.They are the one of the reason why lot of scam projects are now running so they need to stop doing it and take the rewards before promoting anything hereafter.

Patience is our choice as a bounty hunter . But sometimes we are anxious when looking for a bounty as our main income.
We have participated in various projects, but no payments have been received

I think that when it comes to payments, should not wait for those who work, then, it is seen as something not very professional, the projects that pay the day and time are the most serious, those that show the highest ethics. When a project that does not pay on time or, worse, does not pay, falls completely, this is something too delicate, especially when it is in a large community.

Yes patience is a virtue but what if they keep.delaying the bounty distribution ,they  promise a date and yet they always cancel ,until every participants have in thier minds that the bounty is a scam.

Now most of the companies are doing same thing which they are distributing the coins on time and they kept dragging the bounty distribution. This makes many people to loose their hopes about the bounty promotions. We need to wait patiently until we get our payment from the bounty we promoted.

They should not force bounty hunters to stay in campaigns because they extended ICO. I don't mind waiting for tokens several months if I will receive them at the end but if I want to leave campaign I should be allowed to leave and they should pay for work done while I was in campaign. Projects which end bounty but extend ICO are rare, they usually extend both.

I strongly agree with your opinion that cooperative programs are things that must be done without extending the project and if indeed the ICO project must be extended then the project must create a second rounde bounty program so we can leave the project and still get paid and the second way to claim many projects from gift hunters did not hear them because of lack of news such as news only on telegram while in ann bounty locked as we know they were hunters, of course there were many projects they participated in which were impossible to follow all the updates from various projects and I expected KYC reporting or claim bounty is done with PM for all participants

I agree with the author.Of course,these issues are boring,especially if the timing and order of payments specified in the pinned message.But I can understand hunters, too.How many times have there been situations when they write one,promise-and in the end everything is not so and hunters do not pay anything .Every hunter is afraid that here he will be deceived.

As a participant you wont really have any choice but to accept their terms and rules neither they would extend or not.You do have the choice but
you know the consequence which you wont able to get your tokens which supposed to be a payout for your work.
Extended ICO's now are rampant compared as of last last years because most of them now aren't getting sufficient funding.

Bounty hunters are impatient and care about cash they can get after selling their reward. Teams don't care about their promises after ICO and they delay both distributions to bounty hunters and listing on the exchanges. Such situations are unclear for me and I can't indict both parties.

As a bounty hunter i respect to whatever happens to the bounty campaign where i joined.  Even most of the campaign i joined in  do not pay their participants from months of work because of the market condition.

Exactly, After raising the money they won't bother about the people who promoted their projects. Once they gave a specific time for distribution, bounty people will keep silent till that date but after that, they won't bother about bounty hunters questions. This makes very frustrating and sometimes it is un controllable. 

It's not only for market condition and I think there are projects are just made to scam people. We help them to grow but in return no bounty payment and run all funds without telling bounty hunters.

As what I see they always use ICO just to scam people here on the forum I hope DT members and admin take action about this because there are many project are scam and many investors regret investing to any ICO projects.
I hope those DT action always ask for escrow funds for the campaign and then if the ICO owner does not give the funds for the campaign then they should receive negative tag as what they do from lending section if no one could give collateral as newbie will receive negative tag.

After working for the project there is no choice for us, we have to wait until the start distributing, every company is very promising before the ICO, but once they complete the ICO they will start saying the market situation is very bad and we want to protect our investors and bounty people.

This of course very sad , the that with bounty hunters almost no one not advised , but I think us only and remains that only wait, better free time spend on other bounty

Market condition has nothing to do with not paying bounty hunters.
If they have reached softcap they have to pay unless it is stated that hard cap is needed.
In that case don't even think to join bounty.

During this red market, patience is a must. Most ICO projects are suffering actually to reach even their soft caps, and the number of investors is decreasing daily. The result, many ICOs get extended or they just fail and cancel their project. So we need as bounty hunters to choose the best projects and wait patiently.

I am a bounty hunter and I also hate those who spread fud and harsh words.
they have bad morals and unstable emotions. this does not help the success of the project even worsen the situation.

The last bounty that has given me lucrative reward was back in July 2018 and  after that , only failed ICOs and sometimes scams. I hope my current bounty won't disappoint me. Patience is not just the important thing anymore, but also to realize that a bear market can also bring down our bounty rewards.

I hate those who say rude in a telegram group bounty. They don't have ethics and ignore group rules.
every day asking when it's paid blah ... blah
or they spread FUD and scam.

Those  bounty hunters who dont have patience dont deserve to get thier rewards.  Everyday the question on bounty groups is " when bounty distribution"  which makes me angry.

"Prevention is better than cure",so it is better to be picky before joining on the bounties rather than waiting for the prices to reach the good level.But it is not completely possible to evaluate the project at initial stage but you need to have some effort to prevent your all hard works getting wasted.

Projects that extend ICO sale time, this means that the distribution of bounty will slow down.

- It means they didn't meet the fund collections needed for the project. That's why they need to extend it more, but the problems with this the team are not transparent, they gave several reasons for it, which it leads the bounty hunters to get mad with them. Because its there only way to express they're feelings of madness, so you really can't blame them.

I realize this is part of the risk of a bounty hunter. they have worked hard.
but the team sometimes disappears and ignores it.
the manager must explain the rules clearly, at least give an announcement so that bounty hunters are not worried about their work.

haha sounds funny and annoying. I experienced that.
and I don't punish bounty hunters.
the manager must give a warning to those who disobey the rules in the telegram group. or manager kicking from the group.