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This thread will serve for flagging obvious ponzi (pyramid) scams. If you want to flag ponzies feel free to use it and I'll update thread with flag. Keep in mind that flagging accounts linking original ponzi threads might make your flag not valid (thread can be deleted, edited etc) so please archive everything before You place flag on them.

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exxonfarm (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157698.msg51577746#msg51577746) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=264)

Minetron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153697.0) archived (http://archive.is/YKPM8) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=265)

carcassone (MySolidCoin) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156693.msg51564864#msg51564864)  archived (https://archive.is/0blQx#selection-4237.0-4247.14) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=266)

Dogecollect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156371.0) archived (http://archive.is/DzzwX) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=278)

bitcoin2x1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157255.0) archived (http://archive.is/fHdiE) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=282)

Avelon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160938.0) archived (http://archive.is/3haRB) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=313)

mybitcoin(dot)city (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5161053.0) archived (http://archive.is/IknT3) Flag  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=315)

Bitreconnect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170979.0) archived (http://archive.is/sxidd) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=545)

hypemonitor24h (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179543.0) archived (http://archive.is/aq4sw) flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=674)

niyancash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157698.msg52065365#msg52065365) flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=581) archived (http://archive.is/UnqSR)

FinWhaleX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157698.msg52066022#msg52066022) flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=580) archived (http://archive.is/UnqSR)

Bitcoin Bum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177291.0) flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=713) archived (http://archive.is/a3kJX)

paysave (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192581.0)  Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=870) archive (http://archive.is/Wtlpz)

hunger87 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192621.0) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=871) archive (http://archive.is/EP7sB)

roberbers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1010410) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=885) Archive (http://archive.is/QuD4I)

investerion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194390.0) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=893) archive (http://archive.is/3ecmS) site (http://archive.is/CftSt)

Boublr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202070.0) Accounts: B365Best (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2691644) archived thread (http://archive.is/IVkF9) flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1007), Boublr Advertising (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2714683) archived thread (https://archive.li/vDeDf#selection-1449.0-1449.3) flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1006)

TomoCTFYbot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2753011) announcement thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221745.0) http://archive.is/N6f5c flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1331)

WingTsun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=548357) BitcoinWire (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222413.0) http://archive.is/f2nYF Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1339) Yelpguy55 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=875274) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1347) striker15 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=998825)  Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1348)

Account bermudo archived site (http://archive.is/9BPaH) topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237273.0) archived (http://archive.is/NgI39) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1515)

Account Bocainternational Topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244323.0) http://archive.is/8wJUk Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1763)

Account intec (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157698.msg54536085#msg54536085) Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1944)

reserved.

Account: Malcom111 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2628832)
Thread: https://archive.fo/UMTzT
Site: exxonfarm.com
Proof:

https://i.imgur.com/trwdsDk.png

Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=264

Account: nyancash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2649033)
Thread: http://archive.is/ZiqF8

Proof/Scam accusation thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172383
Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=581

Account: FinWhaleX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2614054)

Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5171657.0 http://archive.is/qaqP0

Website: https://finwhalex.com/  http://archive.is/7HfHS


Proof/Scam accusation thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172358.0

Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=580

Archive: http://archive.is/8vmOE

Shill and promote Ponzi schemes created by WingTsun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=548357)

Yelpguy55 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=875274)  - Created Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1347)
striker15 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=998825)  - Created Flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1348)

Account: intec (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=829024)
Topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232917.0 (http://archive.is/Y120U)

This user sells hyip monitor script/service/whatever and is trying to help scammers to steal money from community, please support flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1944

Can one reference this link to create a valid flag ? So that there wouldn't be a need to always create new thread to reference a flag.

Yeah, just post proofs here, create flag, link this topic and I will update it with flag (topic is for flag type 1 only, if you are scammed and you need to create flag type 2 or 3 you will need to create new topic)

Nop, I don't sell a service, I sell a script code.

for MODERATORS, do CHECK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232917.msg54031091#msg54031091

(I wonder why they didn't link this in the 1st place.)

It's not even a hyip script, rather a hyip listing monitor which can also be used for ad networks etc.

edit - I see they linked but they state it as a "service", perhaps they are track minded.

edit2 - You forgot to add the topic link on op  ::)

Everything helping scammers isn't very appreciated in the forum. While HYIPs are scams, most HYIPs monitors are too.
It's like if you say "Hey I sell guns, yes people die but I'm not responsible at any level!"

@marlboroza

https://i.imgur.com/lOmWAxB.png


I'm sure not the only one unable to read the original post. It's blocked by UBlock Origin but I don't know exactly why
Edit:
Nope sorry

Hm, there is nothing in topic except links to bitcointalk and archive, links to websites are not clickable. It pretty much looks like this:

https://i.imgur.com/FU7dTaT.png

 ???

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I removed sites, do you see it now?

I didn't check the thread earlier on but i can clearly see things right now despite having uBlock Origin turned on.

But in the past, I experienced this kind of thing and I even made a thread about it: Is this a forum bug? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209819.0)
@Theymos pointed this out, Maybe it could help @LeGaulois

alterra57 u=3453976 (and by extension their alt HedgeFx u=2221175) are facilitating loans with funds acquired through their activities in Ponzis.

Flag HedgeFx: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3171
Flag alterra57: - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3172

Proof:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446327.msg62330423#msg62330423

Since marlboroza is AFK for 2 years now and point of this topic is to share ponzi flags so he can update it in the first post (which he later deleted for some reason), doesn't it make more sense to share flags in equest Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0)?

Regarding your proof, I have to take a look at it after I finished my coffee before I decide what to do about it.

I did look at that thread but like the thread I started it's a moderated thread so I couldn't create a flag. So, this thread seemed to be an (awkward I admit) close to the mark given its Ponzi orientated and there is no point me creating an unmodirated thread to then link to a moderated thread.

I'm reluctant to pass judgement just yet.  I tend to agree with examplens' comments (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446327.msg62333051#msg62333051) in the other thread that the participants of a ponzi shouldn't be tagged for their naivete.  Unless there's proof that alterra57 or HedgeFx are facilitating the ponzi, I think the red-tags and the flags are inaccurate.  

I'm also not convinced that the addresses used aren't merely coincidental due to them belonging to a relatively popular exchange, as nutildah has pointed out.  If it's proven that the two accounts are alts, giving a loan to yourself is pretty shady shit and would deserve a tag for that alone, but again I'm yet to be convinced.

I'm not saying there isn't something suspicious here, but as things are at the moment I'm not seeing enough evidence to justify the tags and flags.  I'm going to hold off on support or opposition for the time being.

I appreciate your thoughts and I am taking all information provided by everyone on board.

I am posting here as I am more than certain that, if I would post inside the lunatic's thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446327.0) he would delete my posts. So, at least here, my message is safe.

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As I already explained (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213618.msg61720587#msg61720587), with multiple occasions, in the past, TimeLord sometimes manages to escape from the mental institution where he is held for years now and, while he is out of his leash he does not take his pills anymore. When this happens, the village idiot comes on the forum either for trolling, for abusing users with low merits / ranks or to stir some shit. Even our Supreme Leader observed that:


In February 2023 he tried to troll ibminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213618.msg61719641#msg61719641). In June 2022 he tried to troll hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403076.0). In January 2020 he had a beef with marlboroza (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218451.0). Obviously, he ended up like a clown after confronting these users so he learned his lesson. Therefore, most of the time, when he is not institutionalized, he is looking for victims among users with lower ranks. Such as now, when he throws his imbecilities toward alterra57 and HedgeFx.

First of all, as examplens wisely observed,


The baboon has no idea about how Flag system works. He just comes and throws a flag here and there, like a village idiot he is. So let's remember theymos' words to the baboon:


However, due to his very low intellect I highly doubt he will understand these words.

Regarding this part:


Dear examplens, the baboon has no idea also about how to use Marketplace Trust system. I already explained that here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403076.msg60402543#msg60402543). Furthermore, you can see inside this link that he also accused me of being a troll, of causing conflicts and FUD. Although I asked him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226451.msg53859878#msg53859878), in different topics, fore more than a dozen times, where I have ever created FUD or where I have ever trolled, he never replied. The imbecile runs like a rat when a user with good ranking confronts him.

Coming back to current case, of course I opposed both of his flags and I recommend this to all users to do the same. Furthermore, make sure you distrust TimeLord, as he is only stirring shit around and looking to harass users with low ranks. And he does it while forgetting that his contributions to the forum are so good, that he only managed to earn 1077 merits in 5.5 years, lol! (/s)

@HedgeFX and @alterra57: ignore the idiot. Nobody gives a shit for his flags or feedbacks. Most users know that TimeLord is highly delusional and he is in deep need for the pills given to him by doctors from the mental institution where he is held for a long time.

Furthermore, he is also a hypocrite: he dares to accuse others about anything, forgetting that he is an old perv (https://twitter.com/Timelord2067/status/1066092336575172611), supporting pornography (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272422.msg56783218#msg56783218). Just like MinoRaiola (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg62182030#msg62182030), lol!

@fillippone, @examplens, @nutildah, @mendace, @yahoo62278 and all other users which posted in the other thread and opposed the irrational allegations of this baboon: make sure you distrust him. This is the only way to make sure his hallucinations appear only as Untrusted feedback and he won't be able to affect someone's Trust score.

Thank you Gazeta you are absolutely right and I will keep away from this crazy psychotic.  But since it's not the first episode so here we need something exemplary that really is, it can't always shit and then run away, our time is precious and we can't waste it finding reasons against a child's fun.  This account must be removed from the forum or we must all give a red trust so that his account equals 0.

While I agree with first part of your sentence (yes, the forum will be better without the village idiot), unfortunately, there is no reason for giving him red trust. Remember (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0), this is a Marketplace Trust system, and positive and negative tags should be given only for financial deals, not for trolling or being an imbecile.


However, a neutral feedback can be left for various matters. If you are curious, check the neutral feedback I left him (and you'll be amused to see that it's identical with the neutral feedback icopress also gave him :)).

So in this situation -- of imbecility taken to a whole new level -- only a neutral feedback is appropriate.

Yes it is true the red trust would change absolutely nothing for him and would continue to say nonsense.  I hope it gets kicked off the forum.

I think you are very aggressive with your opinion and insulting users when you make a post is not how to get others to agree with your opinion. I have quoted DireWolfM14's feedback from Timelords profile. The guy is not always right when posting his feedbacks, he gets 1 wrong here and there. If a thread is made and the community has a reasonable discussion about how he has handled a case, he listens and changes the feedback.

I guess what I am saying is he gets shit wrong from time to time, but overall does a pretty fair job with his feedbacks. If you disagree you can handle it a little better IMO and not resort to name calling no matter how much you may dislike a person. I try to get along with everyone on here and there are some I just cannot agree with, those people I just ignore. That's how it should be!!!!

Proper way to dispute a persons opinion. No name calling or any other high school drama.

Also opposed both flags
@Timelord2067 might be a proper time to reevaluate the situation. You don't have to trust the guys but for now you lack evidence.

I planned to post on the other thread, but I will follow your example, derailing this thread.
I Hope OP doesn’t feel abused for this.

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I have been summoned again on this feud between you two guys @HedgeFX and @Timelord2067.

I had already expressed my thoughts here, on this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5443969.msg61879032#msg61879032).

I have been trying to follow your line of reasoning, Timelord, but I failed to grasp the clear, or even not clear, evidence HedgeFx was promoting a scam, a Ponzi, or whatever HYIP you think he is (ab)using.

Your entire line of accusation is based on weird address labeling and a subsequent vague heuristic proof.
And heuristic is not enough to accuse, let alone tag, someone.

Now, my English is far from perfect, but I will try to make myself understood with the following statements.
HedgeFX is a poster in the Italian board primarily, according to @tryninja website (https://ninjastic.space/user/id/2221175).
On that board, I never read him promoting any service/scam/ponzi or whichever other activity. He never mentioned anything he was doing with his fund, if we exclude vague references to "trading activity" without any further details. He never tried to sell anything to anyone.
As far as the forum is concerned, I can tell you that he wasn't promoting anything. and this is the only important thing as far as the forum and his community are concerned.

In the remote case HedgeFX is taking part of those scams, something I cannot be sure about, I can tell you that this would be something only the lenders should worry about, as this would hinder @HedgeFx ability to repay his debts. In this case, they could either raise his interest rate or stop lending to him. But I think this is something that should be based on the personal relationship between each lender and HedgeFX.

Since we are here speaking about something that shouldn't bother us, or HedgeFx ability to repay his debt, I find it quite absurd he's able to finance his "activities" if the lending record was as bad as you describe it. Probably lenders know something we don't, as it's their precise work to know their customers in order to maximize their profit. His ability to finance greater lending at greater speed from the most scrutinizing users of the forum to me is a sufficient guarantee that his creditworthiness is thought to be ok by them.

Is he preparing a colossal rug pull? I don't know. I don't think so, but I cannot be sure (if Yogg rug pulled, how can I be sure and vouch for HedgeFX?). The sure thing is that the proof you think you found are totally irrelevant.
I can't see anything wrong in HedgeFX doing.

Opposing this flag.

It is not entirely clear to me why Timelord2067 started this discussion in the Lending section, plus in the self-moderated topic. I thought about opening a separate topic about this case,
but nutildah said he would open a new thread, so I didn't want to burden the same thing


I have already expressed my opinion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446327.msg62333051#msg62333051) about the case, the other members presented a few more facts, it seems obvious that there is no case here that @HedgeFX and @alterra57 are accused of.
Really tried to understand the urge to create this drama, but it seems that it is just a bit of self-centeredness and the desire for sensationalism. If there is a real concern here about investing in Ponzi or scam, I believe that this user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444874.0) should also be red-tagged, because he invested in a scam.

For a large part of his work, @Timelord2067 does a very good job, but unfortunately, mistakes like this happen. The main problem here is that even in spite of many arguments, he^Timelord2067 does not want to accept and admit that he was wrong. What makes the matter even worse is that he accepts every counter-argument as an attack on him. No matter how proven and irrefutable the arguments are, all those who say something contrary to him are some kind of his opponents.


You are absolutely right here, but if we follow Timelord's standards, he definitely deserves a negative tag.
He is causing damage in this case to two members as well as Lenders with ill-considered accusations. Regardless of whether he is right or wrong, currently, active loans(it seems that they have been repaid in the meantime) are immediately marked as high-risk, I believe that the lenders are not happy with the whole thing.

Shazan confirms loan repayment by HedgeFx, which makes this whole drama even more pointless.


Also, I would invite all other participants ^{Gazeta  8)} in this discussion to refrain from using offensive names, this only deepens the disagreements and makes civilized discussion difficult.

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For everyone who might want to oppose or even support the flags we are talking about, I will repost the links

This is a great word. I've never seen it used before but I imagine its a real word.


Agreed, and what's worse is to be actively including Timelord (https://loyce.club/trust/2023-06-03_Sat_05.07h/131361.html) in your trust list. Its 2023, the dude has only gotten worse in the 3.5 years since I left this feedback:



I disagree. His feedbacks for the most part are a mess, borderline psychotic. He spends way too much time leaving baseless tags, harassing & bullying smaller accounts for no good reason. He's done this for years & is always remorseless about it. There's simply no excuse for him to ever be on DT, even momentarily.


Yes I was going to and still might but now that I know the conversation I wanted to see is happening in this thread, I'm hoping it will suffice and be enough for Timelord to remove his tags & flags on the aforementioned two accounts. If he doesn't, surely some of the DT that still includes him in their trust list will reconsider, given what a clearly egregious misuse of the trust system this is.

I am sorry, dear yahoo, but he accused me of trolling and FUD 3 years ago yet he never brought any arguments for his accusations. He only run like a rat each time I asked him. And he is alsways looking for victims of lower ranks! I've had enough of this idiot!

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Is it still unclear? :)


I am not looking this time for a civilized discussion. And I am also trying to deepen the disagreement as there can be no agreement with the old perv.

Besides, being an imbecile is a disease (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile), not a libel :)

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Blushing ::) ::) ::)


Indeed, sadly the unstable mind only becomes even more unstable during time. Having this combined with his occasional escapes from the mental institution, while he is also avoiding his pills, only brings his brain to the IQ of a peanut. As a consequence, when such incidents occur, the shits he stirs are only bigger and bigger.


That makes 2 of us :)


Sadly, excepting the 10 DT1 exclusions, he still has 9 DT1 inclusions (https://loyce.club/trust/2023-06-03_Sat_05.07h/131361.html) (from minerjones, bitbollo, TwitchySeal, Igebots, KTChampions, YOSHIE, FatFork and Stalker22) plus some more inclusions from other DT2 users (which may become DT1 after a future reshuffle, which would only bring more strength to the lunatic). But, at least, if some of these DT1 users mentioned above would change their position it would still represent a huge hand of help.


Have you noticed that, after more users with good reputation came to this topic, he never showed up again? He is hiding like a rat now! He made a huge mistake posting here, inside this topic where he can not delete others' posts and now he is acting like a rat =))) And, if you'll spend 5 minutes to read also the topic where he was exposed for acting like an idiot toward hilariousandco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403076.0), you'll also notice that he never showed up there. Do you think he did not observe that thread? Of course he did! But look at the reputation of the users which posted there. He turned into a very small, stinky rat and hid into a corner, crying for his pills.

dkbit98 also observed that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403076.msg60405602#msg60405602). So it's not the first time when the baboon stirs some shit then runs and hides. I am almost certain he will not show up here again =)))


Let's hope for the best.

+1
I agree here, it's better to bring it up in Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.0)
 

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Very true. The reference link is speaking for itself.
Aren't there recommendations to avoid supporting perv activities on the forum like some members in the past have done or MinoRaiola is engaging currently in the business (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449420.0)?
I might remember we had some sort of discussion after a few incidents, where that shady stuff (https://twitter.com/Timelord2067/status/1066092336575172611) popped up here.
Being a plagiarist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg61730022#msg61730022) and enabling perv activities (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449420.0) should be a big red flag already and the community is well advised to act against it.  :)

Thank you all for the support,

The accusations made by Timelord are absurd.
luckily your expertise has already brought out the truth. I can only confirm what has already been said and for fairness I also add the screenshots of the messages in which I asked Alterra for an extension of the loan, just for confirming that Alterra and I are two different people and that I have never gone overdue, but I have always communicated and asked to the lender first. Shasan can confirm that we get in touch every time I need a loan extension too.

Take a look:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/05/wsd3m.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/05/wsXS1.png

Thank you for your kind words @yahoo62278 - hope your recovery is going well.

Thanks also to @1miau - I would have, however that thread is a moderated one which invalidates flags.

Coward!

You deleted, from your self moderated topic where you accuse me,  my screenshot post of messages with Alterra proving we are two different people. You make your own false accusations and ignore the evidence that everyone has ended up lying to you. You are a fascist!

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/05/w32xP.png

Timelord tripled down and decided to pursue more ghosts that aren't there by asking everyone to download the Okex wallet to prove the exchange doesn't use the labeled hot wallets. Mind you this is all irrelevant to the accusations he made, but he'd rather do this than remove his feedbacks or admit he was wrong... He's also deleting posts by the accused who are trying to defend themselves & others who are just asking questions.


https://media2.giphy.com/media/XD4qHZpkyUFfq/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b51hlvhitwmmtz5erdt9gxjdq8f78rvxm3eb5i9wr&ep=v1_gifs_related&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

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As a demonstration of good faith, I'm willing to admit that Timelord does occasionally produce meaningful investigative work. He encourages other members to bust cheating alt accounts which is an overall benefit to the forum. However, he also makes a lot of erroneous connections as well, and his inability to concede when proven wrong renders him a hazard for DT.

This is no surprise for me, as this is an old practice of the old perv. For example, he changed many posts in the topic where he accused me of FUD and trolling (although he never dared to bring any argument for these imbecile accusations).

Exhibit A:

According to ninjastic.space (https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Timelord2067&topic_id=5226451), he changed this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226451.msg53858341#msg53858341) from


to


See the difference? (He also forgot to delete that /b], lol.)

Exhibit B:

According to ninjastic.space (https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Timelord2067&topic_id=5226451), he changed this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226451.msg53858052#msg53858052) from


to


See the difference? (Needless to mention, if you check those links he provided you'll see that he distrusted me for exposing some of his scandals, lol. So he starts the scandals, yet I am the one untrustworthy =))) )

Exhibit C:

According to ninjastic.space (https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Timelord2067&topic_id=5226451), he changed this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226451.msg53862159#msg53862159) from

https://i.ibb.co/NLYbJq9/Untitled.png

to


See the difference?

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So excepting that he accused me of trolling, FUD and conflicts, he also called me "Butt Hurt^TM", "stuffed pig" or "brain dead". Yet, like a scared rat, he edited later his posts. (Lol, and examplens was advocating for a civilized discussion?! With who?! With someone calling me a "stuffed pig"?)

Conclusion: HedgeFX, don't be surprised by any awkward / idiotic / hallucinating action made by the village idiot. When he escapes from the mental institution he acts like any other psycho-maniac we see sometimes on the streets. Fortunately, ninjastic.space is always there and can be always used as a proof for everything this clown does.

While I agree with the first part and don't think it's appropriate to insult anyone online or elsewhere, I believe the second part is overlooked.

When it comes to accusing someone of scam or of "being a persona that is risky to deal with", given the damage that one can cause to the accused member - the only thing that matters is how many times you get things WRONG, the number of cases you get right becomes less and less irrelevant, just like when a court judge or a neurosurgeon get it 99 right and then fail on the 100th time, it wipes out all those good shots.

Looking at Timelord or the other members who have accused hundreds of members, I can see the good intention they are based on, I am not saying they are bad or untrustworthy members, I just think they have no idea about the amount of damage they cause to innocent people along the way of pursuing the actual "bad guys".

I personally rather have 100 scammers walking around the forum than be unjust to one single honest member who contributes to the forum.

I usually don't join these DT-related discussions and I left DT1 willingly because I think this DT drama takes too much time and effort and keeps me from focusing on the more important things this forum has, I only came here because my name was mentioned and I got the notification when I read the topic, it reminded of something that happened to me a while back.

I hired a forum member to work on one of the projects for me, and he asked me to send the monthly payment to his BTC address on his profile, I did just that for the first month, and then I remembered all forum warriors who might accuse us of being alts, I asked him to send me a different address for the future payments and explained to him why, all this while knowing fair well that I and the member I hired would have many trusted members come to our defense and it would be impossible to have a solid proof that we are related in any way or shape, but the drama, the headache, and the hours wasted having to defend yourself just because someone thought they "found a solid proof".

I could only imagine what the other members who don't have anyone to defend them must be feeling when doing anything on the forum, the paranoia and endless fear of being wrongly accused and having their reputation ruined for nothing.

Such accusations require solid proof, and I believe everyone agrees on that, the problem however, we can't define what solid proof is, Timelord in his accusation against HedgeFX (which I just got to know about from this topic) was based on both users using an exchange wallet, I am not sure how strong of an evidence he thinks that was, and it's up to him to think whatever, but it just shows that we can never agree on the set of rules in regards to what makes a proof valid.

Now the real question is, what has the forum achieved by connecting all those alts (both right and wrong connections), and how much damage was caused? how many real scams did we prevent vs how many great members left because they couldn't stand the fact that some members have nothing better to do than follow their every post and transaction in an attempt to find or invent some proof to destroy their reputation?

Looking at someone like sandy-is-fine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=400366) who has been actively fighting scam for years without getting any attention or posting a new topic/post for everything he finds, fighting scammers in their homeland sections, causing little to no damage to innocent users, using the least server resources, not having to post dozen of new topics connecting two newbie accounts that were created 2 hours ago and pose no risk to the community, I think that is a great example of how "protecting the forum" should be, not accusing two members of being alts because they made the same typo a year ago.


  

Timelord keeps deleting messages from his accusation post that prove him wrong.
It's hard to keep calm and not insult someone who does that.
 Also because his action could have ruined years and years of sacrifices and fairness that I have always had on this forum.

Oh the drama for no reason. This is tiring to say the least. I've been here for a year now and I most definitely wasn't expecting something like this from a, supposedly, reputable member of the forum. The negative trust has been removed, and the only reason for that is because the real reputable members decided to join, I thank you all for that. If it wasn't for you, the Lord of Time, or in this case, the Lord of Abuse, wouldn't have removed the ratings and at that point, it would be useless to hang around as that negative score is pretty much the first thing people see when they view your name on the left.

No, the negative trust is still there: Timelord was downgraded, he is not a DT member now

Oh, that reminds me of something I wrote in a post Timelord deleted, not sure if you had the chance to see it:

He is not on Default Trust anymore as more DT members distrust his judgment when it comes to ratings than trust it, but to be extra sure his ratings never display on your page (at least from how you view it), you can create a custom trust list by going to Profile->Trust->Trust Settings. Then enter user names who you think leave good ratings, and put a "~" before the name of users you think leave bad ratings. So for instance part of my list looks something like this:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/04/wNXSz.png

You can see a user's current trust list by changing the user ID at the end to theirs (this one is for Timelord2067):

https://loyce.club/trust/2023-06-03_Sat_05.07h/131361.html

Here's a pretty unbiased guide to use of the trust system (including trust lists):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0


Try not to get too discouraged. Forum drama used to happen a lot more. Things are actually much better now compared to how they used to be.  :D

I had no idea, so the monkey still hasn't removed it, makes you wonder why individuals such as this one are allowed in the forum.



Thanks for the info, I edited my Trust Settings, hadn't paid too much attention to that part until today. As for me getting discouraged, I was looking into launching a campaign related to a licensed platform which will start it's operations within a couple of months, that negative rating is most definitely a killer. Hopefully everything is cleared by then, once again, thank you for your time nutildah, if it wasn't for you we would be floating around with a negative rating.

According to bpip.org (https://bpip.org/TrustLog), 2 DT1 users just removed the old perv from their Trust list! Thank you babo and minerjones for giving a hand of help toward normality!

https://i.ibb.co/g65xjm3/Untitled.png

Still, if others (both DT1 and DT2) can distrust him the baboon will remain even more without power!

I'm happy to lend a hand with the limited time I have available
I'm always ready to improve the community even at my personal expense
a cohesive community is a strong community
thank you for the trust you give me

I really appreciate that The Italian Brotherhood (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.0) came by to help HedgeFX! (Perhaps this was his initiation to be accepted in the brotherhood? :))

https://i.ibb.co/bQffGYQ/vLIslrG.png

you always accepted my friend

you know very well that I respect you, I voted you for the annual contest of the best members, I consider you a pillar of the community

I'm not very active in international areas because I have little time, but I read and I know who is a good person and who is an asshole

you are a great member

Blushing  ::) ::) ::) Grazie tante, babo!

I'm here exclusively and solely to quote this for my personal future reference, shelved next to Newspaper and Mr. Almeida.

Sup holydarkness  :D :D :D


Loooooooooooool! I hope I won't receive such nice compliments from you though  ;D


But who is Mr. Almeida? O0

Timelord posts another trust (this time neutral) in addition to the red trust posted on may 31. And he continue to delete posts with proof. Also admin moved my post here but left his post in lending board.
He continue to offend my honor and my reputation.
This is not a good thing for me.

Hmm... Can't promise you that, I find myself particularly fond of the stuffed pig part, LOL. Somehow an image of a squishy fluffy pink pig plushie with cherry-red dots on each cheek grinning widely kept appearing on my mind.


[gasp] why, Mr. Almeida, why? Why did you forget your alias (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5451413.msg62200373#msg62200373)?

OK, much that I love this banter, I think we'll get kicked out for derailing the thread if we kept on with it, LOL.

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I am not saying this with any negative tone: why would it matter? The pace of the other thread where timelord got distrusted in matter of minutes and the amount of opposition for the flag raised against you showed that people are mostly see his feedback as invalid and see you for who you really are.

I can understand that you get offended by his feedbacks or how you have the need to post something else as rebuttal of his claim, but wouldn't it better to just leave it and ignore it? Or even put him on ignore list, if you deemed it necessary? Less stress that way. There are a lot of users --DTs, especially-- who got negative or neutral retaliatory feedbacks from people who got annoyed by them and the things they exposed, they mostly treat those feedback either like a bug or a battle scar.

I mean, for instance, look at GazetaBitcoin Stuffed Pig Plushie, he got a lot of name calling. If I'm not mistaken, he also once or twice called tabloid other than newspaper [still laughing at this creativity by our beloved ----dev] and he take it lightly. Deeply keeping the grudge, I believe --remind me to never cross path with you, dear plushie-- but he never let it ruin his day.

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you, the perv Timelord:

https://i.postimg.cc/GprgsVh8/Capture.png

So Timelord was downgraded to DT Strength -4, quadrupled down on his wrongness with a second rating to the (wrongly) accused, and locked his thread, but not before deleting more posts and proclaiming that everyone telling him he's wrong is simply part of an "echo chamber," lol.


 ???

What about 10 people saying you're wrong?

Another strange part about this whole thing is that the thread is still in Lending -- its definitely a Reputation matter. I attempted to post a somewhat similar thread in Lending - but with actual evidence of scams - and it was moved elsewhere. WTF. Suppose it doesn't matter so much now that its locked but still.

Lol. So, I've just seen the locked thread in question and what I think is: how much time wasted and how much energy in dismantling a conspiracy that only he believed, right? I see you took your time in dismantling his arguments very rationally, which I see commendable. I don't have so much patience for that. That's why some time ago I used the wonderful ignore button.

Its not "wasted" IMO. If nobody took the time to dissect his b.s. there'd be a lot more forum members walking around with unfair negs on their heads. Its not the first time this has happened by any means. I've had this relationship with him for significantly longer than you've been here. But to rehash it all would be the true waste of time. The appropriate measures have been taken (for now), time to move on.

Yes, he was downgraded. But he left red trust on my feedback (why?) and added another trust (neutral, accusing me again).
This is a bad, bad thing.

Make that DT2 Strength -5. I try to be conservative with Trust exclusions (and negative feedback), but this guy has shown to be unfit to be on DefaultTrust far too often. He's built a forum carreer linking alt accounts, and it turned out he doesn't understand the difference between an exchange and a wallet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446327.msg62356651#msg62356651). Unbelievable!

Don't worry about it. This is exactly how the Trust system is supposed to work: users who leave incorrect feedback have no business being on DT. Exclude him and move on. This (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=487418;page=untrusted;offset=0) shows how little Untrusted feedback matters.

Thank you Loycev, and thanks again to other forum members.

Sup again holydarkness  :D :D :D


Lucky me

https://i.ibb.co/djqkf6P/Raisins-Face.jpg


Damn, I only remembered the nym Freddy! It happens to forget when you have so many names...


This is true, saxydev, shitcoincollector10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3403876) and Rizzrack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=241548) (the lattest being paid by the forum to protect scammers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439659.msg61768218#msg61768218)) have a broad imagination for finding new names for me  ::)


Don't worry, holydarkness, you are with the White Side of the Force. This is also how we met (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59597017#msg59597017), right? :) Nevertheless, your advice is very good!

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Same as he still does not know what Marketplace Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0) is supposed to be (with accent on "Marketplace"). Or the Flag system.

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3 more DT1 users distrusted or no longer trust the baboon.

https://i.ibb.co/DrZ8vf9/Untitled2.png

Thank you all!

I still encourage TwitchySeal, Igebots, KTChampions, YOSHIE, FatFork, Stalker22 and all other DT2 users (which are eligible to be part of DT1) to do the same, for normality :)

https://i.ibb.co/g65xjm3/Untitled.png

And this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=131361) should be enough reason for anybody to distrust TimeLord:

https://i.ibb.co/mJPR9rq/Untitled3.png

The village idiot just makes blunder after blunder, showing again and again he has no idea about the correct use of Marketplace Trust system. He wrote 2 identical feedbacks, one negative and one neutral (so for him same accusation is to be considered once as a negative thing and once as a neutral thing)!!! And he did the same for 2 different users!

There is no reason in the world for this idiot to be part of DT! Nor DT1, nor DT2!

Is there needed any stronger reason to distrust him? With those feedbacks it seems that he is not even capable to make a decision even for himself about how he sees a user's action -- he does not know if he should consider it neutral or negative, lol! So excepting the fact that the feedbacks themselves are pure imbecilities, the lunatic is also unable to decide what he thinks! So he makes an accusation and uses a negative feedback, then repeats the accusation, but using a neutral feedback. And does it twice!

I added him to my distrust list.
I really tried to give him space to think and still make a rational decision, but he decided on the strangest move, adding another neutral feedback, while leaving controversial negatives. Obviously not understanding the trust system, or knowingly violating it.
As such, he cannot be selected in DT.

If I may offer any consolation, since he's no longer on DT, be it DT1 or DT2, his feedback will not appear on your profile or anyone looking at your profile, unless for those who put him on their trust list. As you can see on the screenshots below, for the public and most members' eyes, his feedback is "hidden" by the "untrusted feedback" button and your trust score only reflect those on current DT system.

https://i.ibb.co/KrVPYZK/hidden.jpg (https://ibb.co/nLQGT2P) https://i.ibb.co/MGTmkf9/rating.jpg (https://ibb.co/fnRsd9Q)

ah really?
I've reached a point in life where nothing surprises me anymore

a few days ago received slaps from a person to whom I directly did a lot of good (here in the forum of course) for no real reason

no wonder he doesn't understand the difference between wallet and exchange
but i don't care either
everyone is the architect of his own destiny and if he prefers so well, his problems

what I always say is `not your keys, not your coins`

I must admit that I wasn't aware of this case before, as I'm not a regular on the Lending board. However, after reviewing the evidence presented, I couldn't find enough convincing proof to support the claim that these are alt accounts of the same user. Therefore, I don't believe that the flag against these users is justified. In my opinion, it's important to give users the benefit of the doubt unless there is substantial proof indicating otherwise. False accusations can harm individuals and their reputation, so it's crucial to exercise caution when making judgments.

While I opposed the flags, I don't want to lose trust in Timelord2067 just yet. I truly appreciate his dedication to the forum and his efforts in combating fraudulent activities, and I believe that he will ultimately do what is right and consider removing the negative trust.

This probably looks pointless now, since the damage was undone, but I salute the decision taken by 3 more DT1 users to distrust or to no longer trust TimeLord:

https://i.postimg.cc/h4wPFbFG/Untitled6.png

As I expected (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157698.msg62353693#msg62353693), the rat keeps hiding and has no guts to show up like a real man. This only shows even more about his disgusting character. Throws a ton of shit on someone's head then runs away.


I think you already did it? :)


Dear FatFork, I am sorry to say that, but I am doing it for you to not get disappointed later: he will never do it.

Well, maybe you have a point there. It wouldn't be the first time I've put my faith in people and ended up feeling let down, and I have a sneaky suspicion it won't be the last either... ;)

Nevertheless, I must admit, even though he can be stubborn at times, I do believe his heart is generally in the right place (well, most of the time, at least). But hey, we all have our stubborn moments, right?

I've had this same thought many times during the past few years. He won't improve.

I think so too, but that's not enough. He sees conspiracies everywhere.

I also believe his heart is in the right place (meaning on the left side of his chest  :D) but the problem here is not his heart but his mind. His mind is not at the right place and this can't be fixed. Or, at least, not so easy.