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June 04, 2023, 12:58:47 PM
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This account must be removed from the forum or we must all give a red trust so that his account equals 0.

While I agree with first part of your sentence (yes, the forum will be better without the village idiot), unfortunately, there is no reason for giving him red trust. Remember, this is a Marketplace Trust system, and positive and negative tags should be given only for financial deals, not for trolling or being an imbecile.

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  • If you believe someone is a scammer, or someone is likely to scam, that deserves negative feedback. Please provide evidence.
  • If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

However, a neutral feedback can be left for various matters. If you are curious, check the neutral feedback I left him (and you'll be amused to see that it's identical with the neutral feedback icopress also gave him Smiley).

So in this situation -- of imbecility taken to a whole new level -- only a neutral feedback is appropriate.

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June 04, 2023, 01:01:13 PM
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This account must be removed from the forum or we must all give a red trust so that his account equals 0.

While I agree with first part of your sentence (yes, the forum will be better without the village idiot), unfortunately, there is no reason for giving him red trust. Remember, this is a Marketplace Trust system, and positive and negative tags should be given only for financial deals, not for trolling or being an imbecile.

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  • If you believe someone is a scammer, or someone is likely to scam, that deserves negative feedback. Please provide evidence.
  • If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

However, a neutral feedback can be left for various matters. If you are curious, check the neutral feedback I left him (and you'll be amused to see that it's identical with the neutral feedback icopress also gave him Smiley).

So in this situation -- of imbecility taken to a whole new level -- only a neutral feedback is appropriate.

Yes it is true the red trust would change absolutely nothing for him and would continue to say nonsense.  I hope it gets kicked off the forum.
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I am posting here as I am more than certain that, if I would post inside the lunatic's thread he would delete my posts. So, at least here, my message is safe.



As I already explained, with multiple occasions, in the past, TimeLord sometimes manages to escape from the mental institution where he is held for years now and, while he is out of his leash he does not take his pills anymore. When this happens, the village idiot comes on the forum either for trolling, for abusing users with low merits / ranks or to stir some shit. Even our Supreme Leader observed that:

DT is full of trust-abusing trolls, and Timelord2067 is one of the most notorious. That's why I excluded him, after all.

In February 2023 he tried to troll ibminer. In June 2022 he tried to troll hilariousandco. In January 2020 he had a beef with marboroza. Obviously, he ended up like a clown after confronting these users so he learned his lesson. Therefore, most of the time, when he is not institutionalized, he is looking for victims among users with lower ranks. Such as now, when he throws his imbecilities toward alterra57 and HedgeFx.

First of all, as examplens wisely observed,

If the lenders don't report a problem with loan repayment, I don't see what exactly is the problem here.

The baboon has no idea about how Flag system works. He just comes and throws a flag here and there, like a village idiot he is. So let's remember theymos' words to the baboon:

It's probably best if one of the victims makes a flag and the rest support it.

However, due to his very low intellect I highli doubt he will understand these words.

Regarding this part:

Timelord2067, I just saw that you left negative feedback on these accounts. I invite you to double-check the matter, the fact where someone spends their money should certainly not be the subject of trust assessment.

Dear examplens, the baboon has no idea also about how to use Marketplace Trust system. I already explained that here. Furthermore, you can see inside this link that he also accused me of being a troll, of causing conflicts and FUD. Although I asked him, in different topics, fore more than a dozen times, where I have ever created FUD or where I have ever trolled, he never replied. The imbecile runs like a rat when a user with good ranking confronts him.

Coming back to current case, of course I opposed both of his flags and I recommend this to all users to do the same. Furthermore, make sure you distrust TimeLord, as he is only stirring shit around and looking to harass users with low ranks. And he does it while forgetting that his contributions to the forum as so good, that he only managed to earn 1077 merits in 4.5 years, lol! (/s)

@HedgeFX and @alterra57: ignore the idiot. Nobody gives a shit for his flags or feedbacks. Most users know that TimeLord is highly delusional and he is in deep need for the pills given to him by doctors from the mental institution where he is held for a long time.

Furthermore, he is also a hypocrite: he dares to accuse others about anything, forgetting that he is an old perv, supporting pornography. Just like MinoRaiola, lol!

@fillippone, @examplens, @nutildah, @mendace, @yahoo62278 and all other users which posted in the other thread and opposed the irrational allegations of this baboon: make sure you distrust him. This is the only way to make sure his hallucinations appear only as Untrusted feedback and he won't be able to affect someone's Trust score.

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Timelord2067 puts a lot of effort into exposing fraudulent behavior, and I find his efforts are a tremendous contribution to the health of the community. I may not always agree with his findings, and think his personality can be a bit abrasive at times. If one can look past that it becomes clear he cares about this forum.

I think you are very aggressive with your opinion and insulting users when you make a post is not how to get others to agree with your opinion. I have quoted DireWolfM14's feedback from Timelords profile. The guy is not always right when posting his feedbacks, he gets 1 wrong here and there. If a thread is made and the community has a reasonable discussion about how he has handled a case, he listens and changes the feedback.

I guess what I am saying is he gets shit wrong from time to time, but overall does a pretty fair job with his feedbacks. If you disagree you can handle it a little better IMO and not resort to name calling no matter how much you may dislike a person. I try to get along with everyone on here and there are some I just cannot agree with, those people I just ignore. That's how it should be!!!!

I planned to post on the other thread, but I will follow your example, derailing this thread.
I Hope OP doesn’t feel abused for this.



I have been summoned again on this feud between you two guys @HedgeFX and @Timelord2067.

I had already expressed my thoughts here, on this post.

I have been trying to follow your line of reasoning, Timelord, but I failed to grasp the clear, or even not clear, evidence HedgeFx was promoting a scam, a Ponzi, or whatever HYIP you think he is (ab)using.

Your entire line of accusation is based on weird address labeling and a subsequent vague heuristic proof.
And heuristic is not enough to accuse, let alone tag, someone.

Now, my English is far from perfect, but I will try to make myself understood with the following statements.
HedgeFX is a poster in the Italian board primarily, according to @tryninja website.
On that board, I never read him promoting any service/scam/ponzi or whichever other activity. He never mentioned anything he was doing with his fund, if we exclude vague references to "trading activity" without any further details. He never tried to sell anything to anyone.
As far as the forum is concerned, I can tell you that he wasn't promoting anything. and this is the only important thing as far as the forum and his community are concerned.

In the remote case HedgeFX is taking part of those scams, something I cannot be sure about, I can tell you that this would be something only the lenders should worry about, as this would hinder @HedgeFx ability to repay his debts. In this case, they could either raise his interest rate or stop lending to him. But I think this is something that should be based on the personal relationship between each lender and HedgeFX.

Since we are here speaking about something that shouldn't bother us, or HedgeFx ability to repay his debt, I find it quite absurd he's able to finance his "activities" if the lending record was as bad as you describe it. Probably lenders know something we don't, as it's their precise work to know their customers in order to maximize their profit. His ability to finance greater lending at greater speed from the most scrutinizing users of the forum to me is a sufficient guarantee that his creditworthiness is thought to be ok by them.

Is he preparing a colossal rug pull? I don't know. I don't think so, but I cannot be sure (if Yogg rug pulled, how can I be sure and vouch for HedgeFX?). The sure thing is that the proof you think you found are totally irrelevant.
I can't see anything wrong in HedgeFX doing.

Opposing this flag.

Proper way to dispute a persons opinion. No name calling or any other high school drama.

Also opposed both flags
@Timelord2067 might be a proper time to reevaluate the situation. You don't have to trust the guys but for now you lack evidence.

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June 04, 2023, 01:19:01 PM
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I planned to post on the other thread, but I will follow your example, derailing this thread.
I Hope OP doesn’t feel abused for this.



I have been summoned again on this feud between you two guys @HedgeFX and @Timelord2067.

I had already expressed my thoughts here, on this post.

I have been trying to follow your line of reasoning, Timelord, but I failed to grasp the clear, or even not clear, evidence HedgeFx was promoting a scam, a Ponzi, or whatever HYIP you think he is (ab)using.

Your entire line of accusation is based on weird address labeling and a subsequent vague heuristic proof.
And heuristic is not enough to accuse, let alone tag, someone.

Now, my English is far from perfect, but I will try to make myself understood with the following statements.
HedgeFX is a poster in the Italian board primarily, according to @tryninja website.
On that board, I never read him promoting any service/scam/ponzi or whichever other activity. He never mentioned anything he was doing with his fund, if we exclude vague references to "trading activity" without any further details. He never tried to sell anything to anyone.
As far as the forum is concerned, I can tell you that he wasn't promoting anything. and this is the only important thing as far as the forum and his community are concerned.

In the remote case HedgeFX is taking part of those scams, something I cannot be sure about, I can tell you that this would be something only the lenders should worry about, as this would hinder @HedgeFx ability to repay his debts. In this case, they could either raise his interest rate or stop lending to him. But I think this is something that should be based on the personal relationship between each lender and HedgeFX.

Since we are here speaking about something that shouldn't bother us, or HedgeFx ability to repay his debt, I find it quite absurd he's able to finance his "activities" if the lending record was as bad as you describe it. Probably lenders know something we don't, as it's their precise work to know their customers in order to maximize their profit. His ability to finance greater lending at greater speed from the most scrutinizing users of the forum to me is a sufficient guarantee that his creditworthiness is thought to be ok by them.

Is he preparing a colossal rug pull? I don't know. I don't think so, but I cannot be sure (if Yogg rug pulled, how can I be sure and vouch for HedgeFX?). The sure thing is that the proof you think you found are totally irrelevant.
I can't see anything wrong in HedgeFX doing.

Opposing this flag.

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June 04, 2023, 02:51:23 PM
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It is not entirely clear to me why Timelord2067 started this discussion in the Lending section, plus in the self-moderated topic. I thought about opening a separate topic about this case,
but nutildah said he would open a new thread, so I didn't want to burden the same thing
OK, feel free to delete my posts if you'd like, I'm prepared to open my own thread about the situation.


I have already expressed my opinion about the case, the other members presented a few more facts, it seems obvious that there is no case here that @HedgeFX and @alterra57 are accused of.
Really tried to understand the urge to create this drama, but it seems that it is just a bit of self-centeredness and the desire for sensationalism. If there is a real concern here about investing in Ponzi or scam, I believe that this user should also be red-tagged, because he invested in a scam.

For a large part of his work, @Timelord2067 does a very good job, but unfortunately, mistakes like this happen. The main problem here is that even in spite of many arguments, heTimelord2067 does not want to accept and admit that he was wrong. What makes the matter even worse is that he accepts every counter-argument as an attack on him. No matter how proven and irrefutable the arguments are, all those who say something contrary to him are some kind of his opponents.

However, a neutral feedback can be left for various matters. If you are curious, check the neutral feedback I left him (and you'll be amused to see that it's identical with the neutral feedback icopress also gave him Smiley).

So in this situation -- of imbecility taken to a whole new level -- only a neutral feedback is appropriate.

You are absolutely right here, but if we follow Timelord's standards, he definitely deserves a negative tag.
He is causing damage in this case to two members as well as Lenders with ill-considered accusations. Regardless of whether he is right or wrong, currently, active loans(it seems that they have been repaid in the meantime) are immediately marked as high-risk, I believe that the lenders are not happy with the whole thing.

Shazan confirms loan repayment by HedgeFx, which makes this whole drama even more pointless.
shasan    2023-06-03    Reference    Repaid several loan on time, thank you.


Also, I would invite all other participants Gazeta  Cool in this discussion to refrain from using offensive names, this only deepens the disagreements and makes civilized discussion difficult.



For everyone who might want to oppose or even support the flags we are talking about, I will repost the links


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imbecilities

This is a great word. I've never seen it used before but I imagine its a real word.

@HedgeFX and @alterra57: ignore the idiot. Nobody gives a shit for his flags or feedbacks. Most users know that TimeLord is highly delusional and he is in deep need for the pills given to him by doctors from the mental institution where he is held for a long time.

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@fillippone, @examplens, @nutildah, @mendace, @yahoo62278 and all other users which posted in the other thread and opposed the irrational allegations of this baboon: make sure you distrust him. This is the only way to make sure his hallucinations appear only as Untrusted feedback and he won't be able to affect someone's Trust score.

Agreed, and what's worse is to be actively including Timelord in your trust list. Its 2023, the dude has only gotten worse in the 3.5 years since I left this feedback:

nutildah    2019-11-16    Reference    This user has given out more erroneous negative trusts than anybody on the forum and their feedback should be ignored. When confronted with evidence that their trust rating is incorrect, they get extremely defensive and become completely unreasonable, unwilling to accept the possibility that they were wrong. While it is not appropriate to leave negative feedback for abuse of the trust system, I in no way trust this user or their ratings. See referenced thread for one example of many incorrect references and how they respond to criticism.

I guess what I am saying is he gets shit wrong from time to time, but overall does a pretty fair job with his feedbacks.

I disagree. His feedbacks for the most part are a mess, borderline psychotic. He spends way too much time leaving baseless tags, harassing & bullying smaller accounts for no good reason. He's done this for years & is always remorseless about it. There's simply no excuse for him to ever be on DT, even momentarily.

It is not entirely clear to me why Timelord2067 started this discussion in the Lending section, plus in the self-moderated topic. I thought about opening a separate topic about this case,
but nutildah said he would open a new thread, so I didn't want to burden the same thing
OK, feel free to delete my posts if you'd like, I'm prepared to open my own thread about the situation.

Yes I was going to and still might but now that I know the conversation I wanted to see is happening in this thread, I'm hoping it will suffice and be enough for Timelord to remove his tags & flags on the aforementioned two accounts. If he doesn't, surely some of the DT that still includes him in their trust list will reconsider, given what a clearly egregious misuse of the trust system this is.

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I think you are very aggressive with your opinion and insulting users

I am sorry, dear yahoo, but he accused me of trolling and FUD 3 years ago yet he never brought any arguments for his accusations. He only run like a rat each time I asked him. And he is alsways looking for victims of lower ranks! I've had enough of this idiot!



It is not entirely clear to me why Timelord2067 started this discussion in the Lending section, plus in the self-moderated topic.
OK, feel free to delete my posts if you'd like, I'm prepared to open my own thread about the situation.

Is it still unclear? Smiley

Also, I would invite all other participants Gazeta  Cool in this discussion to refrain from using offensive names, this only deepens the disagreements and makes civilized discussion difficult.

I am not looking this time for a civilized discussion. And I am also trying to deepen the disagreement as there can be no agreement with the old perv.

Besides, being an imbecile is a disease, not a libel Smiley




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@fillippone, @examplens, @nutildah, @mendace, @yahoo62278 and all other users which posted in the other thread and opposed the irrational allegations of this baboon: make sure you distrust him. This is the only way to make sure his hallucinations appear only as Untrusted feedback and he won't be able to affect someone's Trust score.
Agreed, and what's worse is to be actively including Timelord in your trust list. Its 2023, the dude has only gotten worse in the 3.5 years

Indeed, sadly the unstable mind only becomes even more unstable during time. Having this combined with his occasional escapes from the mental institution, while he is also avoiding his pills, only brings his brain to the IQ of a peanut. As a consequence, when such incidents occur, the shits he stirs are only bigger and bigger.

I guess what I am saying is he gets shit wrong from time to time, but overall does a pretty fair job with his feedbacks.
I disagree.

That makes 2 of us Smiley

His feedbacks for the most part are a mess, borderline psychotic. He spends way too much time leaving baseless tags, harassing & bullying smaller accounts for no good reason. He's done this for years & is always remorseless about it. There's simply no excuse for him to ever be on DT, even momentarily.

Sadly, excepting the 10 DT1 exclusions, he still has 9 DT1 inclusions (from minerjones, bitbollo, TwitchySeal, Igebots, KTChampions, YOSHIE, FatFork and Stalker22) plus some more inclusions from other DT2 users (which may become DT1 after a future reshuffle, which would only bring more strength to the lunatic). But, at least, if some of these DT1 users mentioned above would change their position it would still represent a huge hand of help.

Yes I was going to and still might but now that I know the conversation I wanted to see is happening in this thread, I'm hoping it will suffice and be enough for Timelord to remove his tags & flags on the aforementioned two accounts.
The imbecile runs like a rat when a user with good ranking confronts him.

Have you noticed that, after more users with good reputation came to this topic, he never showed up again? He is hiding like a rat now! He made a huge mistake posting here, inside this topic where he can not delete others' posts and now he is acting like a rat =))) And, if you'll spend 5 minutes to read also the topic where he was exposed for acting like an idiot toward hilariousandco, you'll also notice that he never showed up there. Do you think he did not observe that thread? Of course he did! But look at the reputation of the users which posted there. He turned into a very small, stinky rat and hid into a corner, crying for his pills.

dkbit98 also observed that. So it's not the first time when the baboon stirs some shit then runs and hides. I am almost certain he will not show up here again =)))

If he doesn't, surely some of the DT that still includes him in their trust list will reconsider, given what a clearly egregious misuse of the trust system this is.

Let's hope for the best.

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Since marlboroza is AFK for 2 years now and point of this topic is to share ponzi flags so he can update it in the first post (which he later deleted for some reason), doesn't it make more sense to share flags in equest Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! ?
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I agree here, it's better to bring it up in Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here!
 


Furthermore, he is also a hypocrite: he dares to accuse others about anything, forgetting that he is an old perv, supporting pornography. Just like MinoRaiola, lol!
Very true. The reference link is speaking for itself.
Aren't there recommendations to avoid supporting perv activities on the forum like some members in the past have done or MinoRaiola is engaging currently in the business?
I might remember we had some sort of discussion after a few incidents, where that shady stuff popped up here.
Being a plagiarist and enabling perv activities should be a big red flag already and the community is well advised to act against it.  Smiley



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Thank you all for the support,

The accusations made by Timelord are absurd.
luckily your expertise has already brought out the truth. I can only confirm what has already been said and for fairness I also add the screenshots of the messages in which I asked Alterra for an extension of the loan, just for confirming that Alterra and I are two different people and that I have never gone overdue, but I have always communicated and asked to the lender first. Shasan can confirm that we get in touch every time I need a loan extension too.

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Thank you for your kind words @yahoo62278 - hope your recovery is going well.

Thanks also to @1miau - I would have, however that thread is a moderated one which invalidates flags.

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Coward!

You deleted, from your self moderated topic where you accuse me,  my screenshot post of messages with Alterra proving we are two different people. You make your own false accusations and ignore the evidence that everyone has ended up lying to you. You are a fascist!








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Thank you for your kind words @yahoo62278 - hope your recovery is going well.

Thanks also to @1miau - I would have, however that thread is a moderated one which invalidates flags.
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Timelord tripled down and decided to pursue more ghosts that aren't there by asking everyone to download the Okex wallet to prove the exchange doesn't use the labeled hot wallets. Mind you this is all irrelevant to the accusations he made, but he'd rather do this than remove his feedbacks or admit he was wrong... He's also deleting posts by the accused who are trying to defend themselves & others who are just asking questions.

Actually - you know what?

Let's all do an experiment...

Download and install the OKX App from your favourite app store.

  • Register.
  • Select Wallet.
  • Copy the twelve word seed phrase when prompted to do so.
...
Given that the exchange uses a twelve word seeds wallet known only to you, How can both @alterra57 and @HedgeFx send funds FROM the same wallet unless they are alts?





As a demonstration of good faith, I'm willing to admit that Timelord does occasionally produce meaningful investigative work. He encourages other members to bust cheating alt accounts which is an overall benefit to the forum. However, he also makes a lot of erroneous connections as well, and his inability to concede when proven wrong renders him a hazard for DT.

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Coward!

You deleted, from your self moderated topic where you accuse me,  my screenshot post of messages with Alterra proving we are two different people. You make your own false accusations and ignore the evidence that everyone has ended up lying to you. You are a fascist!

This is no surprise for me, as this is an old practice of the old perv. For example, he changed many posts in the topic where he accused me of FUD and trolling (although he never dared to bring any argument for these imbecile accusations).

Exhibit A:

According to ninjastic.space, he changed this post from

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Brain dead Troll. [...]

You've got your sensational minute in the sun.  Well done Troll - Well done.

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You've got your sensational minute in the sun.  Well done.[/b]

See the difference? (He also forgot to delete that /b], lol.)

Exhibit B:

According to ninjastic.space, he changed this post from

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Thank you for being brain dead. (you never noticed I wasn't here for a couple of days - it's called "the week-end")

This post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736673.msg53789402#msg53789402 and this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736673.msg53792258#msg53792258 are why I distrust you.

Well done Troll - Well done.

to

I wasn't here for a couple of days - it's called "the week-end"

This post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736673.msg53789402#msg53789402 and this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736673.msg53792258#msg53792258 are why I distrust you.

See the difference? (Needless to mention, if you check those links he provided you'll see that he distrusted me for exposing some of his scandals, lol. So he starts the scandals, yet I am the one untrustworthy =))) )

Exhibit C:

According to ninjastic.space, he changed this post from



to

Personal trust lists are not really worth paying that much attention to. Unlike ratings, they're background metrics that affect how the one that sets them in his own profile sees trust ratings.

They only become impactful to the general userbase once they contribute to including/excluding someone in default trust. I wouldn't care that much what the reasons of someone trusting/distrusting others are.
Unless of course they themselves are in DT1 and are largely contributing to preventing others from ranking up. If there's no good reason for such specific actions, it's worth discussing more than hypotheticals.

This is where we are at:

http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-08_Sat_07.44h/1285797.html

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Trust list for: GazetaBitcoin (Trust: awaiting update) (245 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-02-08_Sat_07.44h)
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GazetaBitcoin Trusts these users' judgement:
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GazetaBitcoin Distrusts these users' judgement:
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GazetaBitcoin's judgement is Trusted by:
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~GazetaBitcoin's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. NEW Timelord2067 (Trust: +8 / =4 / -1) (DT1 (-9) 339 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

You're crying that just one person on DT1 - (with a negative value at that) has distrusted you on default trust?  (Something you've never even dabbled in before this week?)



Who put you up to this?



(Note to @LoyceV - this link isn't updating http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/131361.html )




Edit on the 31st August 2020.  Two weeks after this post the OP added ten UID's to the trust list. (Week 58)

It is now week 85 and their trust list looks like this:

https://loyce.club/trust/2020-08-29_Sat_05.07h/1285797.html

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Trust list for: GazetaBitcoin (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (889 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-08-29_Sat_05.07h)
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GazetaBitcoin Trusts these users' judgement:
1. theymos (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (57) 6889 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. philipma1957 (Trust: +22 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1585 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. TMAN (Trust: +27 / =0 / -1) (1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Lauda (Trust: +35 / =4 / -2) (1643 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Biodom (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (589 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (54) 5839 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. nullius (Trust: +4 / =3 / -0) (1631 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (4686 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. DdmrDdmr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 4094 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. mikeywith (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2891 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

GazetaBitcoin Distrusts these users' judgement:
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GazetaBitcoin's judgement is Trusted by:
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~GazetaBitcoin's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. TECSHARE (Trust: +37 / =6 / -2) (DT1 (-1) 935 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Timelord2067 (Trust: +8 / =6 / -1) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. andulolika (Trust: #  +1 / =1 / -6) (26 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. teeGUMES (Trust: +10 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (2) 640 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. mhanbostanci (Trust: +2 / =0 / -2) (342 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Vispilio (Trust: +3 / =3 / -1) (DT1 (-5) 983 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Blacknavy (Trust: +5 / =0 / -2) (DT1 (-6) 1011 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. miyav (Trust: neutral) (88 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. Chlotide (Trust: neutral) (98 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.




I feel vindicated in distrusting this person when I did.

See the difference?



So excepting that he accused me of trolling, FUD and conflicts, he also called me "Butt HurtTM", "stuffed pig" or "brain dead". Yet, like a scared rat, he edited later his posts. (Lol, and examplens was advocating for a civilized discussion?! With who?! With someone calling me a "stuffed pig"?)

Conclusion: HedgeFX, don't be surprised by any awkward / idiotic / hallucinating action made by the village idiot. When he escapes from the mental institution he acts like any other psycho-maniac we see sometimes on the streets. Fortunately, ninjastic.space is always there and can be always used as a proof for everything this clown does.

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I think you are very aggressive with your opinion and insulting users when you make a post is not how to get others to agree with your opinion. I have quoted DireWolfM14's feedback from Timelords profile. The guy is not always right when posting his feedbacks, he gets 1 wrong here and there.

While I agree with the first part and don't think it's appropriate to insult anyone online or elsewhere, I believe the second part is overlooked.

When it comes to accusing someone of scam or of "being a persona that is risky to deal with", given the damage that one can cause to the accused member - the only thing that matters is how many times you get things WRONG, the number of cases you get right becomes less and less irrelevant, just like when a court judge or a neurosurgeon get it 99 right and then fail on the 100th time, it wipes out all those good shots.

Looking at Timelord or the other members who have accused hundreds of members, I can see the good intention they are based on, I am not saying they are bad or untrustworthy members, I just think they have no idea about the amount of damage they cause to innocent people along the way of pursuing the actual "bad guys".

I personally rather have 100 scammers walking around the forum than be unjust to one single honest member who contributes to the forum.

I usually don't join these DT-related discussions and I left DT1 willingly because I think this DT drama takes too much time and effort and keeps me from focusing on the more important things this forum has, I only came here because my name was mentioned and I got the notification when I read the topic, it reminded of something that happened to me a while back.

I hired a forum member to work on one of the projects for me, and he asked me to send the monthly payment to his BTC address on his profile, I did just that for the first month, and then I remembered all forum warriors who might accuse us of being alts, I asked him to send me a different address for the future payments and explained to him why, all this while knowing fair well that I and the member I hired would have many trusted members come to our defense and it would be impossible to have a solid proof that we are related in any way or shape, but the drama, the headache, and the hours wasted having to defend yourself just because someone thought they "found a solid proof".

I could only imagine what the other members who don't have anyone to defend them must be feeling when doing anything on the forum, the paranoia and endless fear of being wrongly accused and having their reputation ruined for nothing.

Such accusations require solid proof, and I believe everyone agrees on that, the problem however, we can't define what solid proof is, Timelord in his accusation against HedgeFX (which I just got to know about from this topic) was based on both users using an exchange wallet, I am not sure how strong of an evidence he thinks that was, and it's up to him to think whatever, but it just shows that we can never agree on the set of rules in regards to what makes a proof valid.

Now the real question is, what has the forum achieved by connecting all those alts (both right and wrong connections), and how much damage was caused? how many real scams did we prevent vs how many great members left because they couldn't stand the fact that some members have nothing better to do than follow their every post and transaction in an attempt to find or invent some proof to destroy their reputation?

Looking at someone like sandy-is-fine who has been actively fighting scam for years without getting any attention or posting a new topic/post for everything he finds, fighting scammers in their homeland sections, causing little to no damage to innocent users, using the least server resources, not having to post dozen of new topics connecting two newbie accounts that were created 2 hours ago and pose no risk to the community, I think that is a great example of how "protecting the forum" should be, not accusing two members of being alts because they made the same typo a year ago.


  

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June 05, 2023, 11:32:11 AM
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Timelord keeps deleting messages from his accusation post that prove him wrong.
It's hard to keep calm and not insult someone who does that.
 Also because his action could have ruined years and years of sacrifices and fairness that I have always had on this forum.


Such accusations require solid proof......

 
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June 05, 2023, 12:08:34 PM
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Oh the drama for no reason. This is tiring to say the least. I've been here for a year now and I most definitely wasn't expecting something like this from a, supposedly, reputable member of the forum. The negative trust has been removed, and the only reason for that is because the real reputable members decided to join, I thank you all for that. If it wasn't for you, the Lord of Time, or in this case, the Lord of Abuse, wouldn't have removed the ratings and at that point, it would be useless to hang around as that negative score is pretty much the first thing people see when they view your name on the left.

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June 05, 2023, 12:31:32 PM
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No, the negative trust is still there: Timelord was downgraded, he is not a DT member now


Oh the drama for no reason. This is tiring to say the least. I've been here for a year now and I most definitely wasn't expecting something like this from a, supposedly, reputable member of the forum. The negative trust has been removed, and the only reason for that is because the real reputable members decided to join, I thank you all for that. If it wasn't for you, the Lord of Time, or in this case, the Lord of Abuse, wouldn't have removed the ratings and at that point, it would be useless to hang around as that negative score is pretty much the first thing people see when they view your name on the left.
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June 05, 2023, 01:24:46 PM
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No, the negative trust is still there: Timelord was downgraded, he is not a DT member now


..The negative trust has been removed, and the only reason for that is because the real reputable members decided to join, I thank you all for that....

Oh, that reminds me of something I wrote in a post Timelord deleted, not sure if you had the chance to see it:

He is not on Default Trust anymore as more DT members distrust his judgment when it comes to ratings than trust it, but to be extra sure his ratings never display on your page (at least from how you view it), you can create a custom trust list by going to Profile->Trust->Trust Settings. Then enter user names who you think leave good ratings, and put a "~" before the name of users you think leave bad ratings. So for instance part of my list looks something like this:



You can see a user's current trust list by changing the user ID at the end to theirs (this one is for Timelord2067):

https://loyce.club/trust/2023-06-03_Sat_05.07h/131361.html

Here's a pretty unbiased guide to use of the trust system (including trust lists):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0


Oh the drama for no reason. This is tiring to say the least. I've been here for a year now and I most definitely wasn't expecting something like this from a, supposedly, reputable member of the forum.

Try not to get too discouraged. Forum drama used to happen a lot more. Things are actually much better now compared to how they used to be.  Cheesy

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June 05, 2023, 01:53:18 PM
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No, the negative trust is still there: Timelord was downgraded, he is not a DT member now


Oh the drama for no reason. This is tiring to say the least. I've been here for a year now and I most definitely wasn't expecting something like this from a, supposedly, reputable member of the forum. The negative trust has been removed, and the only reason for that is because the real reputable members decided to join, I thank you all for that. If it wasn't for you, the Lord of Time, or in this case, the Lord of Abuse, wouldn't have removed the ratings and at that point, it would be useless to hang around as that negative score is pretty much the first thing people see when they view your name on the left.

I had no idea, so the monkey still hasn't removed it, makes you wonder why individuals such as this one are allowed in the forum.


No, the negative trust is still there: Timelord was downgraded, he is not a DT member now


..The negative trust has been removed, and the only reason for that is because the real reputable members decided to join, I thank you all for that....

Oh, that reminds me of something I wrote in a post Timelord deleted, not sure if you had the chance to see it:

He is not on Default Trust anymore as more DT members distrust his judgment when it comes to ratings than trust it, but to be extra sure his ratings never display on your page (at least from how you view it), you can create a custom trust list by going to Profile->Trust->Trust Settings. Then enter user names who you think leave good ratings, and put a "~" before the name of users you think leave bad ratings. So for instance part of my list looks something like this:



You can see a user's current trust list by changing the user ID at the end to theirs (this one is for Timelord2067):

https://loyce.club/trust/2023-06-03_Sat_05.07h/131361.html

Here's a pretty unbiased guide to use of the trust system (including trust lists):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0


Oh the drama for no reason. This is tiring to say the least. I've been here for a year now and I most definitely wasn't expecting something like this from a, supposedly, reputable member of the forum.

Try not to get too discouraged. Forum drama used to happen a lot more. Things are actually much better now compared to how they used to be.  Cheesy

Thanks for the info, I edited my Trust Settings, hadn't paid too much attention to that part until today. As for me getting discouraged, I was looking into launching a campaign related to a licensed platform which will start it's operations within a couple of months, that negative rating is most definitely a killer. Hopefully everything is cleared by then, once again, thank you for your time nutildah, if it wasn't for you we would be floating around with a negative rating.

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Sadly, excepting the 10 DT1 exclusions, he still has 9 DT1 inclusions (from minerjones, bitbollo, TwitchySeal, Igebots, KTChampions, YOSHIE, FatFork and Stalker22) plus some more inclusions from other DT2 users (which may become DT1 after a future reshuffle, which would only bring more strength to the lunatic). But, at least, if some of these DT1 users mentioned above would change their position it would still represent a huge hand of help.

According to bpip.org, 2 DT1 users just removed the old perv from their Trust list! Thank you babo and minerjones for giving a hand of help toward normality!



Still, if others (both DT1 and DT2) can distrust him the baboon will remain even more without power!

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