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Again? Market's in upward trend this year but who to believe and what would you consider as a proved indicator?

https://beincrypto.com/altseason-has-almost-arrived-for-altcoins-according-to-analyst/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=cryptocurrency&utm_content=ff

Almost? well this news can be very misleading if you act on it, its not the first time we will hear that altcoin season is upon us and nothing happened, the truth is there is time for everything and there might come a time when bitcoin holders will start selling part of bitcoin for altcoin, i believe in altcoin but kinda too early for altcoin season

I want to believe, but I think it won’t happen too soon. But since most altcoin prices are tied to Bitcoin price probably will see gradual increase of prices if Bitcoin hits another bull run. Honestly I will be happy seeing deadcoins back to life before I concider its an alt season.

Again the prediction about the altcoin season. In my opinion, it is almost impossible to predict when the altcoin season will come. I just believe that someday he will come. I think we will find out a few days before the start.

Indeed we are in an upward trend this year and Bitcoin regained back some of its prices. But I do not think we are going to see the altcoin season soon because the market is consolidating right now and the upward movement has stopped for this moment. If we want to see the altcoin season, the trend must be in an upward trend and a fresh money must be coming in. But now we do not see one of those, which means we are still far away from the altcoin season.

I also saw this earlier today, but I an still thinking if that could be possible this year. Analyst have said a lot and are still making their points known, but their predictions cannot be guaranteed. I still feel the season might be in 2020 and not this year again.

I'll refrain from clicking on that link, but I will share my opinion.

Assuming 'altcoin season' means a bull run for alts, I do think its coming but isn't here *yet*.  That ought to be obvious to anyone looking at price charts of altcoins, which have been suffering as much as any investment could be. 

Alts depend on what bitcoin is doing, and until bitcoin starts to come back I would not expect alts to do much except either remain stagnant or decline further.  Some of them might make it on their own merits, but there aren't many of them that are going to do that.  I will agree that the altcoin season has *almost* arrived, but it might be a while before it actually arrives.  I am hoping it won't be longer than a few months from now.

I will just leave it here

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oh shit, that's right. but come on let him be happy first, it might be a painkiller from losses on the market.

Things like this keep happening every time Altcoin goes up 5-10% on the market, many people say the Alt season is almost here. and see nothing has changed. LOL...

The very moment there is any uptrend in the market, you see so many self acclaimed market analysts putting up many predictions. The next moment  there is a downtrend, they hide their faces. The little green should not get us carried away, although I hope it keeps going up. BTC just made about 12% gain, ETH about 9%, XRP about 6% and BCH 13% within 24hours and it's a good sign. This doesn't mean altcoin season has almost arrived buddy.

You should not believe what has already said by speculators. I have heard so many speculations that said the altcoin is coming very soon but a year has already passed and nothing happened. This called a recovery phase when bitcoin goes back again to the its previous place before the bearish market happened. You can't call any uptrend will be related to the altcoin season.

I will never believe the speculators and just try to take real indicators as the best source to determine or at least create a little speculation about the next trend in the cryptocurrency.

That speculator is trying to create FOMO. But people are so smart these days. The green candle of whole altcoins caused by bitcoin and there's no reason to call that we are so close with altcoin season.

I do not think so this is not the altcoin season and this will only be temporary, this recovery I think will not be long if the market goes back down, altcoin will be even worse, even though bitcoin goes up high it will not be affected to altcoin.

I haven't watched weekly like the charts on the article to see how they are playing out now, but on monthly closed, the the projections already got rekt -> https://www.tradingview.com/chart/TOTAL2/UF3PWa45-Altseason-is-near-Prepare-to-deal-with-the-euphoria/

The market is just showing signs of recovery, this doesn't entirely translate to a bull run or altseason per say. But if it can be maintained with more uptrend then we can now be hopeful of something good coming. Best bet now is to watch the market, take some profits if any and see how things goes from here.

If an altcoin season does arrive, I'm not so sure it'll occur this year. Perhaps during the next month or two we'll see some improvement, but it won't be like past alt seasons. Reason is, btc dominance is simply too high and btc has been way too volatile.

I also don't look at altcoin season simply as alts rising in fiat. I mean if btc goes up 10% and alts go up 5%, that's certainly not an altcoin season ... it just means you should be holding btc instead of alts. What we'd need to see is alts increase against btc.

That can either occur if btc crashes back down low, and then stays stable or slowly increases, or btc at least picks a number and sticks with it for a month or two.

But right now btc acts like its bipolar, one day it's up, next day it's down ... alts won't really increase against that type of environment.

For me it will largely depend on the impact of btc halving both pre and post halving, if we saw a surge in market cap like 5x to 10x then we can expect massive alt season when btc will peak and the volume will transfer to alts from btc.

Well, Dogecoin only climbed 2% after today's epic pump.

Doesn't really sound like altseason to me yet.

In any case, this alt season won't be like 2017's. I expect that if altseason does come, then it will only favor the strongest altcoins, while the ones beyond rank 50 or so will continue to fall into obscurity.

All eyes on Monero.

A sign of market recovery doesn't mean it will recover, there is a big difference and its not the first time we will see such sign of recovery that ends up disappointing, right now i'd better stay focus on upcoming good projects that can worth investing on instead of hoping for something that might never happen soon

It doesn't mean the price has to beat the ATH to have an altseason, you just have to profit trading altcoins. In my experience I think altcoins had also hit the bottom and most likely going to go up if there is just no bad news from the team. The tops coins are looking good today, it could be red again tomorrow so this could go on for the next months til the market does what ever it does. I'm all bullish for long term.

I'm curious if most just look at coinmarketcap, see green, and then think their coin is improving. Now against fiat of course it means it is, but as far as altcoin season goes, against btc is where it matters.

If we look at alts today against btc, it's mostly a sea of red. Strangely folks holding alts may have been better off yesterday or if btc fell even further, if their goal is to make btc, that is.

I'm seeing doge at -8% against btc today. That certainly isn't something that signifies an altcoin season.

Analysts have been predicting an auction season for a while now.  Although I remain optimistic as I have a rather substantial altcoin holding,  I do think the auction season may take longer to manifest than is projected as a result of this unpredictable price action with BTC.

Don't you get tired guys to call altcoin season every day ? Just because altcoins went up 5% doesn't mean we're going to see altcoin season too or anytime soon. Also if you go on twitter and you search about altcoins you will see some members who are posting misleading info every day in order to make users to buy shitty coins.

The bitcoin dominance is still high and I think it will climb more in the next weeks as we're witness the end of the bear market ( or this is what I hope ) so altcoins may take another drop in price as for now they're rising in $ and they loose position into BTC. We should have learned that predicting something into crypto world its almost impossible so patience its kinda the only weapon we have in order to secure profits.

In the end , I still remember that we have threads predicting an altcoin season since January 2019 and here we are 2 months until the end of 2019 without any significant rising for altcoins.

Dumping altcoins is the season they are referring for? We are still down and its hard to say that the pumping season has finally arrived because of so many instances. We will still go for a roller coaster ride, head and shoulder and we will see more altcoins to die because of the market situation. If the altcoins season has finally here, we should continue to buy them.

There are so many analyst and experts in the crypto and that they are wrong most of the times. It's been a year that people are predicting a price above $20K to $1M but we've seen they were just blind guesses without any reasons to back. I don't mean to say we won't have a bull run but the more we advertise for the pumps and dumps, the slower the bull run would come.

i could agree with this
markets take accumulation phases before whales makes waves, last few months has been accumulation
just stay away from PoW coins, if they pump, miners will just switch over ad kill price again :P haha
everyone just wants to call the "winter pump" repeat like 2017 so they can be twitter guru :P

For the past two years, I cannot count how many time the market had an uptrend, but nothing really happened. Only BTC rose and made x3 science the beginning of this year, but all other altcoins have not moved from their spots.

Outside of isolated coins, that's pretty much how it has played out. It's been around a 7-8 month alt bear market compared to btc. And around 2 years of an overall bear market.

I wouldn't expect a new altcoin season to happen anytime soon, but this last btc rise was a little different than recent ones. At least this time alts didn't completely crumble when btc did its hike thing, like it did all summer. Alts recovered at least somewhat, some actually outpaced btc.

So if we pretend alts already hit their bottoms, it may play out similar to 17-18 in regard to btc-alt ratios. BTC goes up, alts sink, alts slowly regain and chugs along with btc. Now that means over time they will rise too, some a little higher than btc, some a bit lower, but at least they keep pace more or less. That's what happened in 17-18, then alts did the crazy thing after btc hit its ath. I don't expect the crazy altcoin season to occur again, but so long as alts keep pace, it could still prove to be profitable.

For pure junk coins I wouldn't expect them to keep pace at all, top 100 or so coins, maybe. We'll see. It's been pretty difficult to get a read on the market.

I usually see a bunch of old altcoins pumping, that is my indicator. but at this time, I have not seen that. I think the altcoin session hasn't started yet. maybe waiting for bitcoin to reach $ 10K - $ 12K. so like in the graph that was written that. altcoin decline will still occur. before a hard pump is carried out.

An indicator is just a suggestion that something might happen, it's never proof.
For me the thing that triggers alt season is when a) prices have risen and there is sufficient confidence in the market for people to move out from BTC into the alternatives, and probably more important: b) that gap between BTC and alts has extended further and reached the point where alts look so under-priced that people just have to start moving in.

Truth is, most altcoins will die a slow death. Only the strongest teams will manage to pull back their projects to their old all time highs.

2017 was all about hype, not much else. Basically buy, and hope someone buys after you, so you can dump on them.

Moving forward, I believe products with actual services/products will survive, and a lot of them will surely be a better investment in terms of ROI than BTC currently is (due to marketcap).

I believe Stakenet, and their work on Lightning (Like their Lightning DEX, Lightning Multi Currency Wallet etc) will be a massive success, since most people want speed, ease of use, and convenience.

"almost"
then, how many weeks the market needs until the alt season coming mate ?
because nobody know, right,,
anyway my big hope is altseason will coming before this year end

There is no magic that bitcoin would even perform to assist altcoins in getting to bull run, it could support them a little bit to gain few value when  it is rising, but how would the high increase give way to bull run?

I remember of recent that I was trying to explain the issue of cryptocurrency to my dad and my mum when they came around, and I realized that when I was lecturing them, everything that I was using as reference was strictly bitcoin and this happens a lot in many people's houses, so even if we have new people in the market, they will still no bitcoin more than any coin, and for altcoins season to get popular again generally, I think that it will take the ico to redeem its image again.

It might not come within the year. If Bitcoin will make its strongest bullish rally weeks before the year ends, then altcoins might have their own rally in the remaining days of December. But if Bitcoin will rally only in the last few days of December, the altcoin rally might take place in the early weeks of January. But if Bitcoin will fail to even rally hard and reach $15,000, the altcoins might not even see a rally in prices. We will be waiting for months again.

It caused by the altcoin is pegged to the bitcoin and that's why it's too difficult to determine when altcoin season will come. Big domination that has already created by bitcoin in the market makes altcoin's position become vague.
So many people have already predicted about the season of altcoin but they are all getting the wrong answer caused by the strong impact of bitcoin.

I just click the site that you have provided and it contains a different chart that shows the possibility of rising but still, we are not sure of that movement. As of now some of the altcoins in the market are now down and even bitcoin. In addition, we can see some altcoin that until now are keep on increasing just like binance coin. Even we see an uptrend in the market we can't easily how long it will last. Lastly, do you think at the end of this year we might see a long uptrend in the market?

Almost being in an altcoin season is not going to cut it, those holding altcoins are desperate, they have been enduring difficult market conditions for two years already and they are at their limit if altcoins begin to crash again.

I do not know how those investors will keep holding their coins, and when you add scammers and their trickery and ieos asking more money from them then it is not difficult to realize we are in a extremely difficult situation and if it continues like this we could see the collapse of an important number of altcoins and investors.

I'm thankful that someone took the time to give an analysis of the altcoin season,
I'm sure most people are waiting for the altcoin season to come, but it seems like it will be a little longer because the dominance of bitcoin hasn't come down,

100% of us surely waiting for the  altcoin season since I still have alts baghold when bear market season hit and I cannot dump it before since the price is so cheap that's why I prefer  to hold it and wait for the next alt season comes. But  I wonder on when does  this one would affect since it could kills hopes for people seeking an opportunity to sell there tokens if this season will not came.

That's what everyone, not only traders, is hoping, not waiting, for. It is most unlikely that Bitcoin and altcoins will create their new ATH together. That is hardly happening although still possible. But that must need a very big amount of money flowing in. It is going to be billions that is needed. Possible yet difficult to happen. But if Bitcoin will reach its new ATH first and then the altcoins will follow, like alternatively, that is going to be a lot easier to happen. The money is just jumping from Bitcoin to altcoin and vice versa.

altcoin must mostly go rise if bitcoin is fall ,then keep the value if bitcoin is going up and most likely touch the new ATH for altcoin I am sure it will help altcoin for ATH ,so in my opinion this history will definitely be repeated for price growth in altcoin

The thing is, in order to pick up some altcoin, you more than likely are going to need Bitcoin to do it. Sure, there's a few exchanges that have alt/USD markets, but almost everyone exchanges their Bitcoin for altcoins. This is why there's a correlation between these two. The last time we saw all time highs on everything, Bitcoin was also at it's all time high. There can be slight outliers in this from time to time, but generally altcoins grow when the crypto market cap as a whole grows.

i don't think there's any SPECIFIC indicator of altseason, but rather a set of them, signs its growing
Accumulation of small cap coins, big buy walls on liquidity movement coins like LTC, DOGE,REDD, dominance of BTC (fairly high right now)
And after that you just "feel it" in the market, and then BOOM it happens b4 you know it :P

I have heard this uncounted amount of times, science 2017. But the reality is that there would not be any altseason, if you look at BTC dominance. At the moment, when it falls below 50 percent, altcoins will begin to raise.

It is difficult to say that the altcoin season almost arrives because there is no one will have a 100% accurate prediction of the right time. But we have a sign that we can see at the market, which is the altcoin start to rise slowly, and I think the altcoin needs to get the right step to increase. When they finally found that step, we will be going to see the altcoin season comes, but most of us will not realize that, and we might think that is because of the pump from some group.

That is why the pattern is that Bitcoin will rise and hit its own ATH first before the altcoins do. The first coin majority of the investors buy when entering crypto is of course Bitcoin. So before the money will flow into altcoins, it has already passed through Bitcoin. And then it is also a fact that more often than not when Bitcoin is bullish, the altcoins will not be the same. But when Bitcoin has already hit its ATH, the correction follows, and a big part of the Bitcoin portfolio of the investors are going to be converted into altcoins.

Based on my observations the last few days the graph movement of altcoins in a positive direction. Which is the price of altcoins
slowly rising following the price of bitcoin which continues to rise. Not to mention added a better fundamental analysis, this can
a sign of the altcoin season coming soon. According to my predictions it is likely that in 2020 it will repeat like a year Last 2017,
where bitcoin and altcoins will go to ATH together.

I don't think that it is a given. There is still a lot of what-ifs to get a altcoin run started.

I do think that major coins like ETH, LTC and XRP will likely see steady and sustained growth once the BTC bull market picks up once again. The same can't be said for coins that have low market cap and liquidity within the market that previously thrived.

Make sure you're prudent in regards to what you invest in. Don't invest your money in projects that promise too much, or vaporware in general.

Sure, some claim that the altcoin season is about to come, others predict the death of most altcoins, and the third group has its own claims. Nobody knows anything for sure. Altcoins follow Bitcoin, and Bitcoin price does what it wants. That's about the gist of it.

I think its too late for this year, I already accepted that there will be no more altcoin season this year, but instead I am just hopeful it will have next year.
There are big even next year which is the BTC halving, with that, I am expecting something that it will result to some market boost, not only for BTC but for altcoins as well.

Actually for many years I have been in crypto, I still find it hard to predict when the bullish season will come, so I just learn that i just have to believe and wait.

It does seem very likely that the altcoin season has started. Altcoins are holding their gains after the recent price pump even though the market has been trading sideways with a potentially bearish outlook in the short-term. I look forward to seeing more altcoin gains, we've waited long enough.

Because of the expected altcoin season, the center must undergo significant changes, it is not possible if this does not happen, altcoin will move on its own. I don't know what will eventually cause the price of bitcoin to rise, however

I agree with you, here we know that most of the altcoin are always following the movements of bitcoin so it needs a strong push and I hope this will happen at that time.

many possibilities and predictions made. I see now we can choose altcoin which can survive and die in the market. the condition of decline that has long happened to make altcoin that does not have a good commitment will die and have no development at all. we see this happening for many new projects that claim to get full funding but their platforms don't work or only run for a while and then don't move.

That pretty much sums it up. Nobody really has a clue what will happen. Except maybe some giant whales, but I doubt whales would bother posting in this forum.

BTC holders predict the death of most altcoins, altcoin holders predict an alt season, and everyone else just kind of shrugs, having no idea what will happen. The latter is the only really accurate thing, it's all guesswork.

If an altcoin season does eventually arrive, I have a feeling it won't be anything like 2017-18 -- more like altcoins improve, but we aren't talking about anything crazy like last time. It may also be more selective... well, it'll definitely be more selective than last time, when pretty much every coin went nuts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198753.20
here is enough to answer your ask

Such headline will definitely attract altcoin bagholders but its over 2 weeks of publication and we seen a lot of ups and downs with very slight advantage. The thread is full of frustrations of holders and more from those that invested with over 90% dump and terrible negative ROI. We are all waiting and the terrible loss make investors a long time holders. the analysis is interesting but I dont usually see how the sentiment of the market attracts whales, investors and traders.

It is true that it is difficult to predict anything about the period in which the next bullrun will come, but that is why we cannot exclude the possibility that it will start this year, and with it the increase in prices of all altcoins.

I don't know why, but I have the impression that this time it is bullrun on altcoins can come a bit before bull run on Bitcoin ..

You're right . Now that altcoins are at a very bad stage, any analysis or prediction is inaccurate so it is best to look carefully before investing because for me altcoin is now just a tool to make money in this market. In fact, this year more than 60% of altcoins have been forgotten in this market because no one mentions and almost those projects are no longer in operation.

I personally have not decided to invest in altcoin yet because I am not sure the future of this market. Maybe altcoin season will come soon according to everyone's predictions but I will still choose the safe solution is to wait.

After such a big drop in prices, for sure many of the altcoins will not be able to rise, but certainly many of them will recover the losses. I am sure that those projects that have not stoped to develop and developers are active, will soon get the chance to earn money for further development.
I am sure that this will happen soon, if not this year, then certainly at the beginning of next year.

yep, everyone has their own predictions. there is no wrong about that. and that's why we all here to discuss
we discuss about reason why they predict like that

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btw, the article that OP showed us, using technical analysis. the chart already broke the resistance
but, im doubt if altseason can begin just because of that, breaking resistance is generic, alt needs more reason to trigger altseason

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH7oQdCUEAA6Hup?format=jpg&name=large
article which OP posted (https://twitter.com/davthewave/status/1188642742437470208/photo/1)

Of course, all that we write here is just speculation and talking about our predictions.
It is true that there is still no super optimistic sentiment among investors, but I think we observe a calming down in the market, and that says that the next step should be price increases. In my opinion it is possible that the Alt season will start this year, but certainly not for all cryptocurrencies.

Again? Yes, it's again started that people are speculating for a better price jump in the altcoin market by end of the year! This type of prediction makes no sense, just some words from some over expert people! Sorry, if I sound rude, but this is true! I can't see any signal that can convince my mind about the altcoin season's arrival, all just speculate without following the trading chart! The altcoin market totally dependent on Bitcoin movements! If Bitcoin price starts jumping to a good high, then the altcoin season will come!

How you don't see that Bitcoin price is growing from the beginning of the year? We are in the stabilization phase, so alt season can start in any moement, sam as bull run can come in any moment. Im not saying that this will start tomorrow, but market is stable now and prepared for fresh capital.

altseason is increasing price for almost all cryptocurrency, if not almost cryptocurrency, it isnt called as altseason.
beside that, bitcoin dominance must declines rapidly, so it leads to an increase of investment in the Altcoins and may lead to an AltSeason
so, i think there is no hope for this year, we have to be patience to wait more time

Everyone has different predictions when talking about this issue and all should be watched for fun or can be ignored if you do not like. I do not have much opinion regarding this market but the altcoin season can happen at any time because the crypto market is considered to be a place with lots of big surprises. Now there are thousands of predictions regarding the altcoin season but I will analyze this market my way.

For me, the increase in Bitcoin will not help much for altcoin but it is a must for the best altcoin season. Of course, this market is all dependent on Bitcoin but this coin will reduce its dominance in 2020 so that other altcoins have a better chance of growth.

I am not against with your impression but I will stay realistic here based on the trend and based on my personal analysis.
Why I believe that altcoins season will arrived after BTC has its bull run is because ever since, its btc which is the most powerful coin in this market and if BTC is not performing, the whole market struggles, so I think its time for people to invest on BTC again, we will see some bull run and altcoins will follow.

however if my prediction is wrong, I will not complain if its Altcoins that will do the bull run then BTC will follow since it will still result to a good market.

Bitcoin has always been the first and probably this time it will be too. However, due to the fact that altcoins prices have fallen much more than the BTC price during the last bear market, they can react faster to positive market sentiment.

Errrrrrrrrrr well although the sentiment has changed a little bit from super bearish into consolidation
Yet, we can't really prove that if the alts season will come

Most alts are still not able to break beyond their previous high
Thus, not the whole altcoin market will go up

Actually theres no one on this market can have those precise predictions yet they do already assume that there would be a flip out on just seeing some minimal changes.
Yes, we are already on a consolidation state compared on a very bearish market in previous years and month and thats already a good thing but we should not think off
overboard yet expectations and hopes does really hurt when crypto market would tend to break those things.For now, if you can handle up the risk then it isnt bad
to consider on purchasing some alts into its sideways movements.

We just have so many people that are trying to use speculation to drive the market of altcoin forward without them first looking at if we have any available factor that will take responsibility for this, and it is only an event that can call for the altcoins season which I don’t see any for now.

The Facebook Libra coin that I thought would have boosted the altcoins market is not being appreciated by the government, so they might actually not launch the project that we have all anticipated for. The only factor that I am considering causing the altcoin season to start is that of Ethereum 2.0. Since Ethereum has been the backbone of some of these projects, I expect the same Ethereum to do that magic this time around after the new upgrade has been done and released.

Libra seemed to have the opposite reaction (when first announced), by boosting BTC, but smushing alts in the process. Early-mid summer and BTC and Alts were chugging along fine, hand in hand ... Libra announced, BTC goes nuts, Alts smushed.

But I agree, if altcoin season does come around again, ETH 2.0 could be a factor. Only problem is, isn't ETH 2.0 supposed to start rolling out (1st phase) like 2 months from now? You'd think there would be more hype or movement already. Then again, crypo has it's own weird sense of time ... maybe 2 weeks before the event is when prices start to move.

Here we are 7 months away from the Bitcoin having, so I think sometime in the next 5 months there is going to be Bitcoin run-up near if not beyond its ATH. With that most alts will certainly go up. How much depends on how crazy that FOMO feeling gets, and the quality of the alt. It is hard to predict exactly when but I get that gut feeling we are going to see a big run, but probably not as crazy as 2017.

I agree with you. Altcoins might not have the kinda fuel to make moves like it did in 2017 and if there's going to be moves, selected key alts will make the biggest moves. As for the price level for Bitcoin, I'm sure It'll exceed the all time high abd beyond. Bitcoin halving is a big deal. I expect the price to reflect that.

Altcoin season wont start before we reach next year, that's my prediction anyway. Bitcoin controls the market right now, and nobody wants to go into an altcoin right now, before a real bull market has been confirmed.
Once it happens though, I'm sure we'll see a lot of greedy people wanting to get in on the market again.
I predict DEX projects to be massive hits - We've seen more and more people actually caring about their privacy when trading. Pretty much sick of KYC forms, which makes no sense when you think about it.

I'm personally accumulating Blocknet coins, because I'm betting my money on a passive income stream from DEX fee's later down the road :)

And that is the only healthy posture, investors keep trying to anticipate when the altcoin season will start and for almost 2 years that has been a waste of time, wait until it happens and when it does then invest in altcoins.

If you do not let yourself by influenced by the fear of missing out then you can easily pull out some profits when it happens similar to what those that have been outside of the market did when bitcoin began to go up in value during this year.

Every prediction in this market only view and not trusted because the risk can be very high if you choose to invest with them. I usually just analyze this market by myself and always make decisions when investing because if you have the knowledge, please take advantage of that to be safer in this market. In fact, the altcoin season is likely to happen in the near future but only for a short time as the uptrend is usually not stable in the long run.

Yes, you are right market seems to be stable, which we might see any movement in the price of altcoin will surely increase in the market. The price of Bitcoin is fluctuating, which seems to be very tough to predict, maybe it will take some time to recover the altcoin market. We have to wait and see.

I expect an altseason, if it occurs, to be much more selective as well. Perhaps top 100-200ish coins increase somewhat, but it'll only probably be a handful of alts that really provide decent returns.

And I too think BTC will eventually exceed its ATH, although I'm not so certain it'll occur when the halvening does.. or a least I don't think it'll far exceed it. If going by past history, BTC may get close to or nudge slightly beyond ATH, fall back a bit, and we may need to wait a year or so for it to really take off. It also wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see BTC do what LTC recently did with its halvening -- BTC increases, possibly between 10-20K, but 2 or so months before the actual halvening date. Then it does the dump thing before the event, meaning prices had gotten baked in early.

I think you can not apply any kind of analysis on the crypto markets, even traditional markets are random and near impossible to predict, and crypto is much more volatile and easier to manipulate. however there are patterns in the chaos, it looks to me like we still have quite a few more months of sideways trading before we see any confirmation for next altcoin season. If we go back and we consider the chart "bottom" beginning of 2015, we didn't see a confirmed breakout till 2016. So we will be waiting for 2020. also remember the catalyst for the 2017 bull-run was insane levels of retail FOMO which was obvious from all the mainstream attention crypto was receiving, and it was advertised all over the place. In my opinion we never see like that again.

I see on the chart that the altcoin season will begin no earlier than February 2020.  The problem is that technical analysis does not work in the cryptocurrency market, since it has a high percentage of manipulations.

My problem with analysts is there over smartness in giving open ended predictions without time frame and thus limit. It is as good as someone with basic economics knowledge saying that bitcoin will get back to 20k usd which is pretty much like a fact with all the news of adoption happening lately

The charts will not help in this market, you can monitor the market trend in the past other than that there is nothing that can help you in deciding that the charts will be helping much, the reason is not manipulation when it comes to the top coins in the market, it is very difficult to predict when the next altcoin rally will happen and i wont be surprised if we wont see that again.

I wouldn't say anything related to crypto is a 'fact' ... so although I agree that BTC will eventually get to 20K and I feel likely surpass it, I wouldn't treat it as a fact.

And I too have found analysis somewhat useless. There is too much manipulation, and let's not pretend it's just related to junk coins with low volume, it applies to the top coins and btc as well. Then consider the weird btc-altcoin correlation, where even if an alt looks like it should do well by the charts, btc crashes the party and does its own thing, killing pumps randomly. Typically analyst info reads something like, coin may crash to <some level> but if it doesn't, it may go up to <some level>. Yay ... basically coin may go up or down, but nobody has a clue what it'll do.

I am not even sure that the so called analyst have the right formula to actually be able to predict the value of bitcoin accurately, and many analyst that you have been listening to are actually using their influence as a popular public figure to actually manipulate the market depending on their influence on people which is why you could see that some of their prediction comes true, while some does not come true, so I will say that it is just more like the same speculation that everyone is doing that they are all doing also.

With volatility, it is very difficult to know the exact amount of value that a coin will grow to except we judge it from the perspective of adoption which everyone will be able to do that according to the technology of each coin.

there are no accurate figures on the crypto market. everyone is free to make predictions, so are you. but when predictions and analyzes are made of your publications, of course, it must be through really complicated research. if only published allegations and prejudices would be very bad. like a gamble that I saw. but sometimes the greater a prediction is followed and agreed upon by the market then that can be a sentiment towards the market and it can make the market move.

When the next altcoin season happens I also expect that it will be contained only to the most successful coins in the market, however if the altcoin season gives huge profits then investors will go crazy investing in any coin similar to what happened in 2017.

But this worries me, because now many people are going to remember what happened during that altcoin season and they are not going to keep holding their coins, they will sell them at the first opportunity so the volatility is probably going to be many times higher than what we saw in those days.

BTC/alt direct proportional relationship is likely to happen. Alts aren't going nowhere till btc moves, halving is my best guess for happening.

I am not 100% sure what will happen to the altcoin prices if BTC touches again the $20000. The personal predictions are based on the trader's experience and the market understanding but the reality is not close to these two factors. The long way is expected to reach the perfect balance of Altcoin vs Bitcoin, useless altcoins will be erased from the total market cap, survivors will compete with each other.

Bitcoin and altcoin have high correlation between them, many studies have proved that
that's why he said that bitcoin rising then altcoin will follow
Altcoin Prices Have Never Been More Closely Correlated with Bitcoin (https://en.longhash.com/news/altcoin-prices-have-never-been-more-closely-correlated-with-bitcoin)

it's actually due to the influence of bitcoin on the market. there is no special effect on altcoin but bitcoin price movements affect market conditions which make the effect of movements of altcoin prices as well.

there are some effects of the bitcoin movement, if bitcoin moves stably with the pump not too high and happens gradually it is a movement that allows altcoin to also participate in the pump that occurs. but if the increase that occurs in bitcoin is too high and very fast as it did in the middle of this year, the movement and trade between bitcoin and altcoin is not balanced. bitcoin demand will be higher and altcoin will decrease or move slowly not following the pump from bitcoin.

Exactly, even I tried to analyze many times about the technical and charts but never worked, so here in cryptocurrency, we should always follow the market in order to make a profit, here at cryptocurrency trading most of the cases we are seeing the manipulation of the altcoins. That's why it is always good to wait for some time in order to make a decent profit.

This year we are witnessing the purification of this market and up to 80% of altcoins have disappeared from crypto so I believe that only the altcoins trusted by investors can survive until this point. Maybe the altcoin season has not appeared this year but this is a great opportunity for people to invest in good altcoins because maybe next year will be a new era of crypto market.

Everything will be very promising and Bitcoin will soon reach a new high price soon and make this market more bustling like 2017. Of course this is just my little prediction but if that happens then Everyone will make a high profit.

I do not get where you got those numbers, there are more than 6000 coins still in the market and that number does not count all the coins that exist but are not included by any exchange.

Believe me I would like for a great deal of the coins currently in the market to just disappear since the only thing they are doing is to affect the reputation of bitcoin, but as long as some investors are willing to take the risk with such awful coins then they have the right to remain in the market.

I think that the only time technical analysis works is when you are using it to predict the value of bitcoin on a short term prediction and not on a long term prediction and I think that the highest time that technical analysis can work for bitcoin prediction is a day and anything that is more than a day will be based on fundamental.

You might be using analysis to predict future price of bitcoin now, and you will see one fundamental factor that will just change the whole thing which will make it look like those analysis where never working, so because of factor that we have which are still very much responsible for the movement of bitcoin sometimes, it will be very hard to be able to use technical analysis successfully to be able to predict the value of bitcoin accurately.

Check this out market is completely bearish:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/willy-woo-8k-bearish-bitcoin-price-in-unique-setup-before-halving

That's only the prediction is not completely correct, you do not believe it too much because they are only speculated, it could be too.
Decide wisely before you follow them because no one will be responsible for the predictions.

I believe that bull run and alt seasons will happen next year. Dont expect too much on crypto this year rather buy your favorite coins while the market is experiencing  downside.

Analysts have been speculating the arrival of the auction season using a potential drop in bitcoin dominance as an indicator.  Although alts aren't doing badly,  I don't think the altcoin season will be anytime soon.

I believe altcoin can but the fact that altcoin needs more and more support not only from the adoption but the fundamental too. We know that the demand gets centralized to the bitcoin and that makes altcoin feels so difficult to grow. Altcoin needs to leave the domination from bitcoin. Some altcoin can increase to the moon too.

Of course, next year will be the altcoin season and do not sell any coins that you are holding during this time because I believe those coins will have a very good chance of rising in the near future. Currently there are not many options for investors but  top 30 coins at CMC can be considered if you want to make a profit. I'm not sure the future of altcoin but I sure the altcoin season will return to be like 2017.

Other than some  top ranked altcoins that are somewhat up, most others are still near their yearly lows.  It will take a while before we see another alt season like 2017.

Which we really don't know when, being patient is highly required if you are an altcoin investors as being an investor our investment already suffered a lot.
Even if we have invested in major coins, they are also affected but I'm telling you, they are very cheap now and I think sooner they will rise because the bottomed was already hit, and slowly we might see some recovery leading to a major recovery of altcoins.

Don't know when the altcoins season will arrive but just like the old days, HODL and we shall be fine.

Forget about adoption,,, altcoins just basically need to have bigger communities of serious users who together want to send it to each other, accept it as payment and actually make it a coin that can be used as currency. Yes currency, like Monero that at least has marketplaces to sue them. Not utility tokens,,, that people maybe maximum need one time every few months (file storage or whatever).

Many people here buy coins because "its 10x since its ath". You buy a coin because is has utility and adoption (or starting to). Coins like neo,nem, maidsafe, xrp will slowly die over time, their prices are already dropping hard over the past year.

Prices were falling because people who had no idea about cryptocurrencies bought them, pumped prices and created a huge bubble. The real price is created by people who use cryptocurrencies. Their number is increasing every year and prices will also rise naturally. There is a place on the market for many cryptocurrencies so I'm sure that the ones you mentioned will rebuild their value with time.

Not yet still, in my opinion. Indeed we would see some increase when it comes to their market prices but I highly doubt that those changes would be enough to conclude that the uprise for Altcoins has already started. We should be patient still and avoid making absurd assumptions because it might bring danger to other people by encouraging them to invest as this early and regret it eventually.

I think I  said this before. Altcoin season will not come unless Bitcoin is clearly in a bull market. Most people are afraid all coins will just die. They don't really believe in crypto. Even Bitcoin maximalists fuds altcoins saying all altcoins will die.

Right now, it's what's going on their mind because they felt the current situation but I know it will change as the market changes too.

This is wrong, if they don't believe in crypto, they also don't believe in bitcoin, but its not what I am seeing,  what I see is that people believe more on BTC than the combine altcoins as we can see on the dominant rate of BTC.

When in altcoins season, people will say - Altcoins will moon.
When in bear market, people will say - Altcoins will die,...

see the pattern?

This year despite the current trend was positive for the market, 2018 was a terrible year and many thought we will never recover from it, but during this year we saw bitcoin and many altcoins reaching very high prices.

But since then the price has gone down, but there is no need to be afraid during the next year we will experiment the halving and in the case that is not enough to push the price of bitcoin up we can still take advantage of its low price and buy it and wait until the price recovers again.