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Title: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 05, 2020, 02:14:14 PM
 The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bL4nkcode on January 05, 2020, 02:20:37 PM
A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.

 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.
An obvious red flag from a scammer on telegram, if these people has too good be true offers related to money on any social media website such fb, twitter especially to all messaging apps such telegram, be cautious, its 99% scam.

Thanks for sharing this btw.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 05, 2020, 02:34:02 PM
It's becoming too rampant, the telegram name doesn't matter anymore, as they can easily create a new account.
 
Another messaged me some mins. after I dropped this topic.

The main point is that we a need to be on the look out, this is a new wind, don't fall into it.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: cryp24x on January 05, 2020, 02:42:59 PM
It is kinda long post but its worth-it. Thanks for sharing your experience and the detailed scenario how the scammer/s wants to get our money. I think if it is a newbie, I guess it was already got the money he wanted. I will share also this scam activity to my friends, this will be a great help.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: agentx44 on January 05, 2020, 02:54:06 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
That was indeed a tricky one, I would fall into that kind of scam to be honest since it was made perfectly for fraud purposes. It is a great help for many who are fond of joining gambling sites. This should already be a lesson learned for many and a wake up call that scams anywhere you go does exist and are still active, patiently waiting for their next victim. Don't fall into any clickbait made and start questioning everything that a stranger says to you so that you would not experience great loss of money.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Rengga Jati on January 05, 2020, 02:56:24 PM
There were already many cases of scammers using telegram to trap people. I got many times about a message offering to earn money with Bitcoin. But I just ignored all, reported the message, and blocked the user. Remember, no people will share you some money only in an instant way. It doesn't make sense for sure. Let's think smarter to avoid scammer who wants to steal your Bitcoin.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: k@suy on January 05, 2020, 02:59:54 PM
It is kinda long post but its worth-it. Thanks for sharing your experience and the detailed scenario how the scammer/s wants to get our money. I think if it is a newbie, I guess it was already got the money he wanted. I will share also this scam activity to my friends, this will be a great help.
Yes you are right! This is a detailed long post but it has sense and informative. You know what I've been a victim of scammer here in crypto world and also outside the crypto world. Nowadays crimes can occur everywhere in the real world or even here in the virtual world so we have to be alert, smart and be ready because who knows if the one we are talking to right now is a scammer or even one of our friends whom we met here in the crypto world just bear in mind that awareness is what we need today in order to avoid those bad people.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 05, 2020, 03:00:24 PM
Thank you for sharing this, i appreciate your honesty.
In my country we cannot install telegram, because telegram was been blocked by our goverment.
But, i think this scam will not only on telegram, they will using other app or website such as facebook,line, etc.
We must beware about new person who contact us, it does not make sense when new person want help us to get more money.
Someone who know the best profitable things usually don't want to share it, they just want to earn it themselves.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bitcoinsocial09 on January 05, 2020, 03:08:42 PM
That's was too obvious surely it was just another scammer in telegram messaging random people with his useless offer hoping to scam someone or a newbie that hoping to gain a profit.
Don't fall in this one quickly report the account and block it thanks for sharing it in the forum that would help a lot of users here.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: GideonGono on January 05, 2020, 04:42:34 PM
Thanks for warning, but I notice that no one would bait that easily because everything was also afraid on scam so they also surely secured their money before start investing on that kind of scam.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: tungaqhd on January 05, 2020, 04:51:26 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
This kind of scammer is very popular to newbie, they said you get hundred dollars in some website but you need to deposit to active your account blah blah... Therefore, most of service that ask you to deposit to active account/ achive some gifts are scam!


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Palider on January 05, 2020, 04:52:58 PM
It's easy to know if this person scammers first of all he can create another wallet address to another exchange wallet like coinbase, coinomi  electrum and many more.  
And also you can easily recognize if you are talking to scammers because in the first place Betxloot.com are not popular betting site. I hope that will serve as a lesson for you,  And also learn from that.

Ignore people suddenly DM you especially on Telegram
And aslo review first the website because you will easly know if that are scam because of the reviews of first users.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bdivrik on January 05, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
Watch out for people returning from DM from Telegram. Corporate firms do not do this. Also beware of people who promise huge profits in a short time. Bitcoin is a good investment tool. However, it is not easy to get immediate earnings.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: hatshepsut93 on January 05, 2020, 06:30:00 PM
One of the first things that newbies should learn is that there's no free money in crypto, you have to work to earn it, it's not early days when you could get money from faucets, airdrops and easy bounties.  No one will approach you with a genuine opportunity to earn money, if it was real they'd do it themselves. Fiat world is full of scams too, but its worse with crypto because there's zero chance to find the criminals or take your money back.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Nadziratel on January 05, 2020, 06:33:25 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.
 

This is not something new. Telegram, Twitter or all other social media channels is keeping risks.
Especially in Telegram, there are so many scammers. We all have to be careful.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: BrewMaster on January 05, 2020, 06:44:30 PM
all these scam methods keep coming down to how greedy their targets are. that is how they feed off of them. they throw big numbers at the victims and pretend to be these experts who can magically make money while not having any money of their own to invest and need the victim's money!
most of their techniques are way too obvious but only if people aren't already blinded by their greed.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: milewilda on January 05, 2020, 06:53:37 PM
~snip~

Nothing new! since this is just the same on those scam modus on where a certain person wants for you to withdraw his exchange funds which would be transferred into your particular account and when
the funds is already on your account and you asked some withdrawal it would pop out some alerts or notification that you would need to deposit before you can able to withdraw the amount which is a total
bullshit if you think on carefully.Its a total scam attempt where they do force you to deposit.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: TinaK on January 05, 2020, 06:55:30 PM
I am not sure whether this is perfectly fit for scam accusations bored but I believe everyone should aware of this kind of scams and we should not believe the telegram messages and direct personal message on this bitcointalk board as well.
we need to analyse the project and trustworthiness of the person who ever contact you.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: aoluain on January 05, 2020, 06:57:38 PM
These scams indeed are working because of a lot of people who cannot
control themselves and their rush to earn as much as they can and as
quickly as possible.

If its too good to be true its most likely a hoax.

Well done to the OP for not falling for the trap and thanks for posting.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 05, 2020, 07:26:36 PM
I am not sure whether this is perfectly fit for scam accusations bored but I believe everyone should aware of this kind of scams and we should not believe the telegram messages and direct personal message on this bitcointalk board as well.
we need to analyse the project and trustworthiness of the person who ever contact you.
It is already obvious, you can check the site out yourself to determine whether it's scam or not.

 They are looking for people who can't control themselves when the see huge money proof, and then can do anything afterwards, to get it.

I only shared this so a lot of newbies and users can learn to overcome this.

 To prove it, another contacted me this afternoon for exact same thing, that isn't a coincidence.
 When I accused him of scam, he deleted the whole account.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Nadziratel on January 05, 2020, 08:09:02 PM
I am not sure whether this is perfectly fit for scam accusations bored but I believe everyone should aware of this kind of scams and we should not believe the telegram messages and direct personal message on this bitcointalk board as well.
we need to analyse the project and trustworthiness of the person who ever contact you.

No project will contact you directly via Telegram or any other channel. Never! Anyone who asks you for money by reaching out to you is definitely trying to cheat you.

All kinds of real projects are subject to a rule. And they don't trade without this rule or with personal rules.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: kryptqnick on January 05, 2020, 08:28:30 PM
Op, I don't know why you're saying that it's a new scam and it's too real... Sometimes there are indeed new sophisticated scamming schemes, so I open such threads to become a more informed person. For instance, over the last couple of months, I read about a scam with fake QR codes that send the money to a wrong wallet, and about a malware that pastes not the address a person copied and even pastes an address that has the same 3 first symbols or something. What you're writing sounds like a classic scam, and I am glad you did not get hurt, but this one sounds like the most typical scam scheme.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: joinfree on January 05, 2020, 08:57:34 PM
Thanks for informing the community and seriously any website or person that asks you to deposit your pennies in order to give you any huge amount of money is too broke that he needs your pennies to survive lol. Don't trust these sites folks, they are all full of scams and never real. I have encountered most of these guys and i block and report them anytime they contact me on telegram.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: salty on January 05, 2020, 09:07:32 PM
I've never had any dealings with anyone in the Telegram about money before.Any message from someone even indirectly hinting at making a profit, immediately forces me to send this person to the ban.Alas, it is a pity that You fell for such a trick.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 05, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
I've never had any dealings with anyone in the Telegram about money before.Any message from someone even indirectly hinting at making a profit, immediately forces me to send this person to the ban.Alas, it is a pity that You fell for such a trick.
I didn't say I fell for it buddy, I just decided to play along. If I didn't play along I wouldn't have gotten this much info an UT thrm to share at the first place.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: judypug1956 on January 05, 2020, 09:22:05 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.


 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

this was an obvious scam I bolded the reason why.

It is easy to create multiple wallets multiple emails and multiple accounts on most any website.

When he said he had an account and was known by the website and needed a new account name to hide from the website that was a red flag.
In fact If he could win anytime he wold just make a different account and wallet to do so.



take a look at my signature and realize that he simply could have 2 or 3 or 4 or more accounts.  I have multiple accounts here.

Well you only lost 100 bucks  lesson learned fairly cheaply.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 05, 2020, 10:58:48 PM
Thank you for this awareness and hope that noobs could see this or if not, they'll always have the sense to think for kind of offers. The same thing that it happen to the others, I'd receive some PMs via telegram but they'll get nothing cause I'd never been replying to them. 
I know some of us to have a good intention but can't deny also that some people would like to take advantage.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: dimastegar on January 05, 2020, 11:17:51 PM
A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.
If I receive the message, I will not respond to that person. The reason is because I do not play gambling. Thank you for providing our information about the scam site. Keep in mind, do not easily believe the message of strangers in your telegram. Because most of these people are trying to cheat and take advantage of us.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: diahsw on January 06, 2020, 12:29:57 AM
that's why this forum is now a little bit quiet compared to 2017, they did everything they could to deceive us, including making fake bounties and so on !!


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: gabbie2010 on January 06, 2020, 01:24:22 AM
This is indeed a very smarter way of scamming unsuspecting gamblers, a very greedy person would easily fall for this trick believing that a mere $100 would cash out $4998 which is a massive amount of money to a gullible person, we should also be very careful with dealing with faceless and despirate telegram scammers using of sort of tricks to scam gamblers using a photoshoped fictitious winning slip as a bait to defraud people


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: chocolah29 on January 06, 2020, 01:40:15 AM
Thanks for warning, but I notice that no one would bait that easily because everything was also afraid on scam so they also surely secured their money before start investing on that kind of scam.

Unfortunately, some people are blinded by greediness and even they knew it on the first place they still fall for it and realized it when it's too late.


Well you only lost 100 bucks  lesson learned fairly cheaply.

It may be nothing for you but not for some.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: xvids on January 06, 2020, 02:16:52 AM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
This is an old trick but they only move it to a gambling platform this kind of trick started on a trading site,
The only thing that people should remember is never trust an unknown site and don'tbe blinded by greed.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: MURONDI on January 06, 2020, 02:18:37 AM
yes it's very clear of fraud, You must make this thread in the scam section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 hopefully there are no victims, I also really hate scams, You must provide the fraudulent sitelink or deceptive profile, so we can find out the person or site.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Pamadar on January 06, 2020, 02:26:25 AM
This is indeed a very smarter way of scamming unsuspecting gamblers, a very greedy person would easily fall for this trick believing that a mere $100 would cash out $4998 which is a massive amount of money to a gullible person, we should also be very careful with dealing with faceless and despirate telegram scammers using of sort of tricks to scam gamblers using a photoshoped fictitious winning slip as a bait to defraud people
For sure this scammer already tricked someone and wanted to have more, better to be aware of such scammed practices. If there's something too good to be true never to rush out and take actions. Instead it's better to research and find more about the tactics, good thing as OP shared this here to alarm more potential victims. Stay away from such offers from unknown person.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: crossabdd on January 06, 2020, 02:48:56 AM
I've gotten it several times. but with a little different trick. someone told me to make an account on the bet site (forgot the name of the site). he said because he had won. but can't draw because of the limit. after I created the account, he sent about $ 5,000 to my account. but when I try to pull it. feedback is the same as what you get guys. New accounts must deposit $ 100 to be able to make transactions. then I tell my friends that they don't get scammers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: topbitcoin on January 06, 2020, 03:33:55 AM
I never respond about someone who i don't know PM me and offer something, any PMs i wouldn't ever to respond. I think people should do that because scammers will use a lot of ways to steal money from us. And something like what OP tell to us wouldn't harm anyone if people can ignore it. Glad for OP he is not easily believe to something like that.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: drlukacs on January 06, 2020, 04:10:19 AM
This I have known for a long time because there are thousands of crooks stalking us in this market when we are in trouble. When I started having questions in a large group of people, there would certainly be a PM team for me to ask about an x1000-capable investment in a few days. all are bull shit. so in order to avoid all of these scammers, you should have yourself with a doubt and always think that "money is never easy to earn"; If it was so easy, they wouldn't have introduced us. :D


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: tianglistrik on January 06, 2020, 04:16:16 AM
I never respond about someone who i don't know PM me and offer something, any PMs i wouldn't ever to respond. I think people should do that because scammers will use a lot of ways to steal money from us. And something like what OP tell to us wouldn't harm anyone if people can ignore it. Glad for OP he is not easily believe to something like that.
the scammers will certainly do many ways to find people who are easy to get hooked and we must understand it. it's good indeed to forget and ignore things that are not clear, especially on offers that do not go in to what I think is potentially fraudulent. nowadays many methods are done by fraudsters, including sending PM or can also be via email but email will usually be more organized.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: meanwords on January 06, 2020, 04:23:05 AM
Never trust people in telegram unless you really know the person or you have a connection with him. Anything that is too good to be true will eventually fall into a scam category. The moment he said that you will need to deposit a certain amount to do it, that's a big red flag and you should have immediately block him and reported him as soon as possible.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: theskillzdatklls on January 06, 2020, 04:27:02 AM
I've never understood why people put this much effort into trying to scam. Between the TG, the website, everything else, why not just do it the honest and correct way? That takes a serious amount of work and now your scam has an hourly wage attached to it which isn't even a very good one. Might as well make your work actually productive and meaningful but that might just be too practical for some.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: blckhawk on January 06, 2020, 05:00:16 AM
These scams normally starts by giving you hints of its fake legitimacy. And when you entertain such messages, that's where it starts to puzzle your mind as you ride their trickery. But one thing that is always used is the 'deposit first to get reward' type of method, which blows their cover. What I think is the best way to avoid these is just don't entertain anyone you don't know in the web, especially if its only on telegram.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Eclipse26 on January 06, 2020, 05:00:23 AM
He's a genius one for that kind of trick. He's trying to gain your trust. He even sent you $70 to make it not an obvious scam. But at the end you'll also need to deposit money. If you're new to this kind of environment, you will really end up getting scammed.
I've never understood why people put this much effort into trying to scam.
Because they only just need to invest efforts and they can get huge money in exchange within just an hour of pretending and scamming.

To op, thanks for sharing this one. We can be aware and avoid getting scammed with this move.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: thesmallgod on January 06, 2020, 05:28:19 AM
Indeed you are brave. Someone who is gullible will fall for this scam immediately he sees the amount of money he has won. This is part of the problem facing and affecting crypto. A lot of mad individual will just hide behind their phone and want to scam people via crypto knowing very well they can't be traced. How can someone you don't know what you and him to make money together. This is very common on telegram and I have witnessed the same thing before but the scammer want to use a fake exchange he created to scam me. He told me he has huge amount of money in his online exchange account but he can't withdraw it because crypto is banned in the country. I believe many BTT users must have experience this also on telegram.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Rodeo02 on January 06, 2020, 06:12:22 AM
I recieve many messages the same as this one in telegram claiming that they can make me win in a gambling sites. But if you look at the domain you will see it a new created gambling sites.
Not only gambling sites they use also a fake exchange same thing you need to deposit befoee you are able to widraw the balance.
Both just trying to scam people so be careful always they are active in telegram.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 06, 2020, 06:19:05 AM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.


 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

this was an obvious scam I bolded the reason why.

It is easy to create multiple wallets multiple emails and multiple accounts on most any website.

When he said he had an account and was known by the website and needed a new account name to hide from the website that was a red flag.
In fact If he could win anytime he wold just make a different account and wallet to do so.



take a look at my signature and realize that he simply could have 2 or 3 or 4 or more accounts.  I have multiple accounts here.

Well you only lost 100 bucks  lesson learned fairly cheaply.
I didn't lose any, because I never u froze the account, I refused to do it, he is still persuading me


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 06, 2020, 06:22:43 AM
yes it's very clear of fraud, You must make this thread in the scam section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 hopefully there are no victims, I also really hate scams, You must provide the fraudulent sitelink or deceptive profile, so we can find out the person or site.
I will do that, to avoid people from falling into it


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: LouVandetta on January 06, 2020, 07:23:15 AM
It's getting pretty common I think scam attempts through telegram chat. I've been receiving such messages quite often until now.
And all they ever asked was they want to make me their business partner and with the of our money combined, we could get a ton of profits together. No matter the other party party came from, I don't give a damn about such thing. What a bs thing to say. I hope no more victims falls for this kinda schemes.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Baby Dragon on January 06, 2020, 07:44:19 AM
I never respond about someone who i don't know PM me and offer something, any PMs i wouldn't ever to respond. I think people should do that because scammers will use a lot of ways to steal money from us. And something like what OP tell to us wouldn't harm anyone if people can ignore it. Glad for OP he is not easily believe to something like that.
the scammers will certainly do many ways to find people who are easy to get hooked and we must understand it. it's good indeed to forget and ignore things that are not clear, especially on offers that do not go in to what I think is potentially fraudulent. nowadays many methods are done by fraudsters, including sending PM or can also be via email but email will usually be more organized.
It should be the reason why we have to be cautious and attentive when it comes to emails because we can't literally assure that their intention was good. Also, scammers these days will always look for opportunity to deceive us even if we tried to protect and secured our funds by not believing into their words and promises particularly when you have seen that it is quite difficult to fulfill. They will surely take advantage of you if they get the chance and that is why you have to open your mind when it comes to these kind of problem because you will never know when you will encounter it. It is also the reason why researching is always recommended because it can help you identify and determine if something is legit, it can help you make the right decision.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Ayomi007 on January 06, 2020, 08:11:08 AM
That was a tricky ordeal.
 To be frank, I would have really fallen for this, after looking at how much I have won.

 I like your boldness, because if you didn't play along with the scammer, you wouldn't have learnt their tricks.

You kinda put yourself on the line in order to get information to warn others.
 Thanks a lot, I will be careful with my dealings in crypto.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: asus09 on January 06, 2020, 08:12:25 AM
It's getting pretty common I think scam attempts through telegram chat. I've been receiving such messages quite often until now.
And all they ever asked was they want to make me their business partner and with the of our money combined, we could get a ton of profits together. No matter the other party party came from, I don't give a damn about such thing. What a bs thing to say. I hope no more victims falls for this kinda schemes.
When you active in telegram group channel discuss about bitcoin and altcoin many chat come from don't know people in telegram ask order for sent him several bitcoin amount and sent back to us after they have success withdraw their asset, I found with many people ask me sent him bitcoin because he can't withdraw in their account before deposit several bitcoin, I think is bullshit and you have block him.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: BigBos on January 06, 2020, 09:01:18 AM
Allen Stanley or betxloot.com, they can easily change names by tricking others with the same trick. to be honest, if I were you, I wouldn't be interested from the start. however, since he asked for investment, I don't believe it, it's a fabricated story. This is also a matter that needs attention, that when we receive a message from a telegram, do not be easy to believe.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bounceback on January 06, 2020, 09:30:10 AM
Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

thank you for the information for me this is good information because by posting you tell us that the site is really a scam so that between us there are no more victims with the website, and so far if we see scamers making various ways to deceive people people for one reason they promise to give us greater profits or the like.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bitcoindusts on January 06, 2020, 10:08:30 AM
~snipped

I also had this kind of invitation but I refused it as soon as I heard his scheme.  He even offered me the same thing that he will be the one to make a deposit and all I have to do is just play it and he will let me win.  He also said that he is one of the operator of that site and he wanted to bag some BTC and he needed that kind of help.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: luckyflop on January 06, 2020, 10:26:50 AM
This is a very sophisticated scam trick of scammer, nowadays scammer has been very smart and devised new games that make greedy people in this market trapped. With the scam as you share, I think he made many people cry because of their greed and lack of knowledge.
Thank you for sharing this useful information, remembering their website and staying away from it as far as possible


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Asuspawer09 on January 06, 2020, 11:01:28 AM
Obviously a telegram scammer do not entertain this people block and report them in telegram.



I also had this kind of invitation but I refused it as soon as I heard his scheme.  He even offered me the same thing that he will be the one to make a deposit and all I have to do is just play it and he will let me win.  He also said that he is one of the operators of that site and he wanted to bag some BTC and he needed that kind of help.

These guys are classic scammer I can't believe they still exist until today, hoping someone will fall into their trap. Most of the time they are finding newbies to trick.


I never respond about someone who i don't know PM me and offer something, any PMs i wouldn't ever to respond. I think people should do that because scammers will use a lot of ways to steal money from us. And something like what OP tell to us wouldn't harm anyone if people can ignore it. Glad for OP he is not easily believe to something like that.

the scammers will certainly do many ways to find people who are easy to get hooked and we must understand it. it's good indeed to forget and ignore things that are not clear, especially on offers that do not go in to what I think is potentially fraudulent. nowadays many methods are done by fraudsters, including sending PM or can also be via email but email will usually be more organized.


I think the best thing to do is just to like this post to share this message to everyone so that a lot of newbies in cryptocurrency could also be aware and could avoid this scam.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: TitanGEL on January 06, 2020, 11:05:13 AM
We should remember that scammers are in everywhere, so we should be careful especially if there is a stranger try to connect with us. Scammers are becoming more smarter than before, they will create a fake identity and they will try to reach us in order for them to steal the bitcoins that we have. If there is a people who try to reach with us and offering a project, we should be think smart because it is really something fishy.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: AniviaBtc on January 06, 2020, 11:20:33 AM
I never respond about someone who i don't know PM me and offer something, any PMs i wouldn't ever to respond. I think people should do that because scammers will use a lot of ways to steal money from us. And something like what OP tell to us wouldn't harm anyone if people can ignore it. Glad for OP he is not easily believe to something like that.
the scammers will certainly do many ways to find people who are easy to get hooked and we must understand it. it's good indeed to forget and ignore things that are not clear, especially on offers that do not go in to what I think is potentially fraudulent. nowadays many methods are done by fraudsters, including sending PM or can also be via email but email will usually be more organized.
It should be the reason why we have to be cautious and attentive when it comes to emails because we can't literally assure that their intention was good. Also, scammers these days will always look for opportunity to deceive us even if we tried to protect and secured our funds by not believing into their words and promises particularly when you have seen that it is quite difficult to fulfill. They will surely take advantage of you if they get the chance and that is why you have to open your mind when it comes to these kind of problem because you will never know when you will encounter it. It is also the reason why researching is always recommended because it can help you identify and determine if something is legit, it can help you make the right decision.

Don't you ever ever trust easily, most of the time people will do everything just to fool you. They work hard to scam and to take all the money you have on your account. As much as possible, always look on something and never trust someone when they tell you to do some actions that you'll not benefit for it. Their words are very persuasive and do not try to get on the bait. Always know those people who make a conversation with you and also secure your accounts.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Greatchu on January 06, 2020, 11:23:46 AM
This tricks are very common since early 2017 and it still works on crypto newbies, this will obviously work on any greedy people, why can't him fix this himself? Why finding people online to do this? Obviously it's a big fat SCAM


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Ashong Salonga on January 06, 2020, 11:38:47 AM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

It is great sharing such information into thi forum to let other cryptocurrency users to fall into such sites which you have already experienced. It seems to be a first sign that it is a scam if a stranger comes out to be messaging you and persuading you on making such deposits into a strange site because in this vast world of crypto, with random people in it, how can it possibly be that someone will message you and say to make you win in a betting game which seems to be a game of probability. On that first base, it is already a scam added by the fact that he wants you to deposit an amount just to claim your prize is already doubtful. We cryptocurrency users must let other users about this things specially those that are new in this space to avoid them getting victimized due to the fact that those people are targeting new people and taking advantage into their desperation to earn. Remember, no such thing is easily being claimed in this industry so you must be observant and keep yourself knowledgeable about what is happening to avoid being scammed.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: BlackFor3st on January 06, 2020, 11:44:24 AM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
And now the scammers are making all the efforts just to get a free money from noobs. Earning a free money is already a scam attempt as no one will surely give a method easily if they really earn from it.

It's good that you create a thread for this kind of tactics that the scammers are still using right now so other newbies will be aware and for them to avoid them as much as possible. Don't easily entertain the people that you don't know so you can avoid this kind of scam attempt.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: andycarrol on January 06, 2020, 11:45:16 AM
Damn, I often get a pm from telegrams about cooperation offers and others, I just ignore that, because I know it's a scam. no free or instant money.
although I once got a scammer in a telegram and lost 3 eth, lol. of course it is a lesson for me.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: LogitechMouse on January 06, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
I don't want to connect anybody in Telegram because I know already that it is full of scammers.

I encountered some unknown users too in telegram but I don't entertain them. I don't want to spend my precious time to these scammers. I hope that there are no other people are getting scammed in telegram.
Thanks for sharing your experience anyway.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: nickenburg on January 06, 2020, 11:49:13 AM
I had the same happen to me on Discord,

First time randomly get a message:

Congratulations!
You were randomly selected among users of Crypto Discord Servers, such as Binance / TronNetowrkEn / BitTorrrent / BitMax / Bit mart and many others ... In the giveaway! We are a fast-growing cryptographic project that offers the best conditions for storing or trading your Crypto! To attract new users, we did a free giveaway with 1000 prizes worth almost 10 BTC!

You won 0.3 BTC


So they give instructions how to get your btc.
With a website link they give a code to fill in.
The website looks very professional like a exchange.

But then you try to withdraw the Btc, and they will tell you have to deposit Btc before you can withdraw any.

So it seems like this is the new type of scamming I hope not a lot of people are falling for this trick.
Never send your btc to a scam like this!


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: rijaljun on January 06, 2020, 12:10:10 PM
-Snip-

I got the similar messages few times and usually from unpopular betting sites with poor UI. Well, I always enjoy how they are trying to scam but I knew they obviously just want to scam so I don't follow their orders. They can do it themselves, if it's not a scam. Why bother to message unknown people, that's nonsense!


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Fatunad on January 06, 2020, 12:19:44 PM
-Snip-

I got the similar messages few times and usually from unpopular betting sites with poor UI. Well, I always enjoy how they are trying to scam but I knew they obviously just want to scam so I don't follow their orders. They can do it themselves, if it's not a scam. Why bother to message unknown people, that's nonsense!

Similar to me. I have received offers and sudden winning of something which I did not remember I participated in. Sometimes through emails. I managed to reply some of their emails but as soon as they are asking for a payment or bringing in your btc address and other important information I automatically put them on ignore list. It's easy to spot scammers as long as you're greed level isn't very high.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: alexsandria on January 06, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
Scammers are totally a good story teller. I am just fascinated how he made you interested in winning though, he even had this game that is halfway persuading. Anyway, thanks for sharing your story, I bet he deceived lots of person there though it was quite obvious from the start but once you get in touch into the site everything might went fine as you feel the excitement as well. Tables will change once they urge you to pay for a certain amount. Good job spotting such aim.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: White Christmas on January 06, 2020, 12:53:16 PM
Scammers are totally a good story teller. I am just fascinated how he made you interested in winning though, he even had this game that is halfway persuading. Anyway, thanks for sharing your story, I bet he deceived lots of person there though it was quite obvious from the start but once you get in touch into the site everything might went fine as you feel the excitement as well. Tables will change once they urge you to pay for a certain amount. Good job spotting such aim.
Scammers and those people that are greedy to earn money as well as bitcoin are those who will do anything just to earn profit easily that can result them to cheat other people in order to get what they want. Those scammers can make story and really good on persuading people to trust them and because of their greediness they make some bad activities that result to negative feedbacks from the society. The story above was very clear that the people want your money and they will do anything just to get it so lets wake up and be careful to those people that makes us dump just to get our money in line. Do not fall on those people who have a bad intent in your earnings.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Ailmand on January 06, 2020, 12:57:04 PM
This had happened to me before but in a different scenario.  There was someone who sent me a message in telegram asking me to create an account in a certain trading site where his ethereum is. He said due to country restriction he could not withdraw his ethereum around 20 ETH to be exact in exchange he'll give me 2 ETH. When I tried withdrawing it a messaged popped asking me to deposit 100$ to unfreeze the account.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: FairUser on January 06, 2020, 01:12:04 PM
I had the same happen to me on Discord,

First time randomly get a message:

Congratulations!
You were randomly selected among users of Crypto Discord Servers, such as Binance / TronNetowrkEn / BitTorrrent / BitMax / Bit mart and many others ... In the giveaway! We are a fast-growing cryptographic project that offers the best conditions for storing or trading your Crypto! To attract new users, we did a free giveaway with 1000 prizes worth almost 10 BTC!

You won 0.3 BTC


So they give instructions how to get your btc.
With a website link they give a code to fill in.
The website looks very professional like a exchange.

But then you try to withdraw the Btc, and they will tell you have to deposit Btc before you can withdraw any.

So it seems like this is the new type of scamming I hope not a lot of people are falling for this trick.
Never send your btc to a scam like this!

I am just like you, but they are trying to scam me through email. I received hundreds of fake Binance, Kucoin, Okex emails ... The email content is that someone sent to my account 0.1 BTC or even 1 BTC, then they attached a link and told me to confirm for the transaction to be completed. I wonder how they got my email and sent me hundreds of spam emails like that, scammer is always around us and they hide in this market. We must always be careful with it


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: btccashacc on January 06, 2020, 01:41:03 PM
We all know that that telegram has always been used for scamming people especially in the crypto industry, that's why I increase my telegram's account privacy, stranger always send me dm, some of them also added me into some random ICO's or crypto-related group which I was not interested in. To prevent this issue you may increase the privacy in your account's setting. I did it, now no one can add me to the group and see my phone number except my contact.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Sebas.tian on January 06, 2020, 02:07:44 PM
You escape the scam because you where tempted at first to fall into this obvious scam and later advice yourself against the man behind GREED. That's the forces of greed that pushes many to fall for what is obvious to be called true. Obvious scam of this type shouldn't have been an issue at the first place; if greed is to be control.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: BuNga_cute on January 06, 2020, 02:08:53 PM
Thank you for sharing stories about your experiences, nowadays scammers are getting more creative in how to trap their victims.
We must always be vigilant, lest we also become victims of scammers. Actually I also often get offers interesting from people I know
by telegram, but I also realize the offer is likely a scam. Because of me realize don't trust people too easily, it's better to avoid it than
I am be a victim of scam.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Wintersoldier on January 06, 2020, 03:37:53 PM
Thank you for sharing stories about your experiences, nowadays scammers are getting more creative in how to trap their victims.
We must always be vigilant, lest we also become victims of scammers. Actually I also often get offers interesting from people I know
by telegram, but I also realize the offer is likely a scam. Because of me realize don't trust people too easily, it's better to avoid it than
I am be a victim of scam.

It mostly starts with a question are we aware of mining? Most of the time they use mining facilities even if they don't own one to strike and tell people to invest to them that will surely return ROI. Though, the best move for this action is to ask them basically some technical terms and try to test their knowledge about the matter even if we will not really taking their bait. Just to lure them out, in short, to avoid scams, we, ourselves should first understand the basic concepts that we could actually use to avoid being scammed.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Youghoor on January 06, 2020, 05:02:36 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

A lot of people in this crypto space are just looking for ignorant individuals to scam them. Once they realize that you don't really have enough knowledge and understanding on how the entire crypto space operates, they take advantage of you to scam you off the little bitcoin you have in your wallet.  And greediness of people make them vulnerable to such scams...


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Zionatin on January 06, 2020, 07:05:21 PM
Wow. That is pretty clever. Making it look like he made you win. He did make you win since the site belongs to him.  ;D Then you "trust" him since he made you win. He pressurizes you into depositing the $100 to open your account to with the $5k and then you never hear from him again and the money is never withdrawn. I wonder how many people would fall for this.

As soon as a gambling site starts "freezing" your account after a big win. Then something is wrong. A legit casino will let you withdraw. A legit casino may want to manually do it and it might take up to say 48 hours but anything other than that is a scam.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 06, 2020, 09:32:01 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

A lot of people in this crypto space are just looking for ignorant individuals to scam them. Once they realize that you don't really have enough knowledge and understanding on how the entire crypto space operates, they take advantage of you to scam you off the little bitcoin you have in your wallet.  And greediness of people make them vulnerable to such scams...
Honestly, all the explanation said by the OP i dont think this is an act of scamming ignorant individuals because the scenario was pretty cool and even the most smart person in the wirld may fall for it before understanding the whole scenarios.
@OP, it good you share this situation but i think the forum still need you to provide the screen shot of you conversation with the scammer for proper evidence.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: rijaljun on January 07, 2020, 07:02:44 AM
Honestly, all the explanation said by the OP i dont think this is an act of scamming ignorant individuals because the scenario was pretty cool and even the most smart person in the wirld may fall for it before understanding the whole scenarios.
@OP, it good you share this situation but i think the forum still need you to provide the screen shot of you conversation with the scammer for proper evidence.

Unm.. do you think random people who asks you to deposit $100 to give you easy money is a genuine person?

Imagine you are the gamble site mod, you want to have 50-50 by making someone win the gamble in your site without any first deposit from him ($100 deposit is because the account get frozen). If you have this kind of chance, would you ask random people in the world to help you out? Or would you ask your real life friend or even do it yourself?

Think!


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: DevilSlayer on January 07, 2020, 08:25:45 AM
Scammers are aware to the potential of the bitcoin so it is the reason why they keep creating fake projects in order to get our bitcoins. They are skillful and smart and that is why they keep victimizing others in order to steal their funds. We should not trust strangers, here in the cryptocurrency market that only thing that we need to trust is ourselves in order for us to make better decisions.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: istiak2277 on January 07, 2020, 08:34:21 AM
now it's very common in telegram. Telegram became a heaven for the scammer. When you message in some crypto group some unknown telegram account send a message about profitable investment with proof. I already got a lot of messages like that. I think most of them are a scam. So guys careful if someone tells you about any investment site always do some research about that company before putting your money into that site.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 07, 2020, 02:16:27 PM
This tricks are very common since early 2017 and it still works on crypto newbies, this will obviously work on any greedy people, why can't him fix this himself? Why finding people online to do this? Obviously it's a big fat SCAM
He'll never be a victim to this, he actually helps others to give awareness and it is the OP's intent. He solves it by himself.
The most online offering is really enticing seeing huge offer of returns in just a few days, it surely attracts greedy people and noobs. But the situation had changed already, scammers are smart and have already a different style which it certainly can't obviously look like scams. Well, this is hard when you have only a limited market knowledge and that is why noobs most often are the victims.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: keeee on January 07, 2020, 02:26:12 PM
Damn, I often get a pm from telegrams about cooperation offers and others, I just ignore that, because I know it's a scam. no free or instant money.
although I once got a scammer in a telegram and lost 3 eth, lol. of course it is a lesson for me.
Yes, thankyou for the information and making us more aware about scammer. Actually I got scammed also before but it was in investment.  I pay and pay because they say it will increase high as you give them your money.  But that was a lesson also to me so I became more observant and always double check if it safe or not. 


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: FairUser on January 07, 2020, 02:47:45 PM
Damn, I often get a pm from telegrams about cooperation offers and others, I just ignore that, because I know it's a scam. no free or instant money.
although I once got a scammer in a telegram and lost 3 eth, lol. of course it is a lesson for me.
Yes, thankyou for the information and making us more aware about scammer. Actually I got scammed also before but it was in investment.  I pay and pay because they say it will increase high as you give them your money.  But that was a lesson also to me so I became more observant and always double check if it safe or not. 
I really can't believe it when you were fooled with something as simple as that. Why are you depositing money in their wallets without any guarantees? In my country, there are many similar cases, they believe in trading groups and those groups promise to return 100% of profits in 1 month. A lot of people have trusted and deposited money in their wallets, as a result no one could get their money, the scammer disappeared shortly afterwards. Btw there is also a lesson in this market and you should be more careful


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: airdnasxela on January 07, 2020, 03:56:30 PM
Crypto is very vulnerable from scammers and if someone randomly just messaged you in telegram, doubt already and don't give your trust. That's very suspicious already so don't entertain them. Ignore them if it's only about money, because they're trying to scam you. Why would someone you don't know would come and will they you that they're here to "help you"??? When he could just help his friends.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: redsun114 on January 07, 2020, 04:02:49 PM
This is no longer a new thing, I have seen it several times. These scammers are working really hard to deceive a lot of people and the worst part of it all is that you will see the chat and it would be very active and you will see people having normal discussions and saying that it is real and talking about how much they won, lol.

The new one I have been seeing recently is on Twitter – these scammers will post genuine comments other celebrities Tweets, their comments will attracts lots of likes and the next thing they will add another comment under their first – take for example the last one I saw they used Elon Musk, then the scammer posted a picture of Elon Musk tweeting that Tesla is doing a giveaway (probably photoshopped) and he will then say something like ‘thank you Elon Musk for the 2 BTC’, and this will convince some people to think Elon Musk is doing some giveaway and then go to the websites that is posted by the scammer (like elmusk.online) and when you reach there the site will direct you to the fake Blockchain site and you will as well see comments that are pretending to have won rewards from them, they will tell you to send some BTC and receive ten times of it to your address. It’s all SCAM, and this has been around for a while now.

It’s people like this that makes people think that cryptocurrency is a world of scammers and thieves.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: seoincorporation on January 07, 2020, 04:05:09 PM
The past year i have been victim of this kind of scam in the forum. I know that feeling, the rush about take our a big amount of money makes us deposit a lil more.

The money was lost but at the end i create a thread to try to prevent some other users to avoid this schema:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5081286.0


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Colt81 on January 07, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
Honestly, my friend was almost get victim by this scammers in telegram. Good thing that my friend asked me about it, so i really told that it might be a scam because a stranger just pushing him to deposit a $150 to their project, which is obviously a scam because their website was not well created and the team members are all invented.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Hamphser on January 07, 2020, 04:16:56 PM
If the offer is too good to be true, always put a room to inspect if it is legit because you can't find any investment type that's almost doing nothing while receiving a profit. It's not how the real world works always put a room for a benefit of a doubt. Just reading from your title it is obviously that you fall to a too good to be true investment. Learn your lesson.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: arimamib on January 07, 2020, 04:22:25 PM
If the offer is too good to be true, always put a room to inspect if it is legit because you can't find any investment type that's almost doing nothing while receiving a profit. It's not how the real world works always put a room for a benefit of a doubt. Just reading from your title it is obviously that you fall to a too good to be true investment. Learn your lesson.
sometimes what makes people immediately affected and trust without re-checking is those who are in a hurry to make a profit. actually it is not good, because when investing we must always check to make sure the project is legitimate or not. without doing that, funds can easily be lost.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: robelneo on January 07, 2020, 04:32:15 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

Glad that you did not fall into this old kind of scam, I have a post similar like this in the scam section, you can easily tell because it's too good to be true and everything is planned, even their answers are planned, so many are like this in the telegram, if you are not aware of this kind or similar like this or you did know that telegram are hubs of scammers you can easily fall for this


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: andycarrol on January 08, 2020, 04:29:40 AM
Damn, I often get a pm from telegrams about cooperation offers and others, I just ignore that, because I know it's a scam. no free or instant money.
although I once got a scammer in a telegram and lost 3 eth, lol. of course it is a lesson for me.
Yes, thankyou for the information and making us more aware about scammer. Actually I got scammed also before but it was in investment.  I pay and pay because they say it will increase high as you give them your money.  But that was a lesson also to me so I became more observant and always double check if it safe or not. 
I really can't believe it when you were fooled with something as simple as that. Why are you depositing money in their wallets without any guarantees? In my country, there are many similar cases, they believe in trading groups and those groups promise to return 100% of profits in 1 month. A lot of people have trusted and deposited money in their wallets, as a result no one could get their money, the scammer disappeared shortly afterwards. Btw there is also a lesson in this market and you should be more careful
not everyone has good knowledge, like me getting to know bitcoin first, of course I experienced a lot of losses, from trading, fraud or scammer, phishing and others. but everyone will always learn from his experience, so they will not get the same thing 2 times. This thread is very good, so people don't have to get into trouble first, but they can get lessons from other people's cases.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: JC btc on January 08, 2020, 04:37:13 AM
Thanks for sharing this, if one will message me regarding this and deposit money for sure I will think it's true too because of they money that you won. Anyway, good thing you remind us here, it will be a great help for all of us not to fall into this another scam scheme.  Scammers are really clever and will do anything for people to believed them.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 08, 2020, 07:48:32 AM
Thanks for sharing this, if one will message me regarding this and deposit money for sure I will think it's true too because of they money that you won. Anyway, good thing you remind us here, it will be a great help for all of us not to fall into this another scam scheme.  Scammers are really clever and will do anything for people to believed them.
that is very true, they keep advancing, so we all have to buckle up


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: NotATether on January 08, 2020, 08:10:47 AM
If someone sends an unsolicited message to people on telegram about these kind of things, it's indeed fake. First, if he doesn't know you why would he care about helping you win money and second, if he's doing this to many people he's probably desperate for bitcoin from scamming a bunch of people. Some people even go as far as harassing random users on telegram to extort money from them. I wonder if this is against Telegram's terms of service.

For those of you who reported that scammers "randomly selected them from a list of all Crypto Discord users" - how did they even manage to get all the users' names? That's definitely a lie they told you.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Excell110 on January 08, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

A lot of people in this crypto space are just looking for ignorant individuals to scam them. Once they realize that you don't really have enough knowledge and understanding on how the entire crypto space operates, they take advantage of you to scam you off the little bitcoin you have in your wallet.  And greediness of people make them vulnerable to such scams...
Honestly, all the explanation said by the OP i dont think this is an act of scamming ignorant individuals because the scenario was pretty cool and even the most smart person in the wirld may fall for it before understanding the whole scenarios.
@OP, it good you share this situation but i think the forum still need you to provide the screen shot of you conversation with the scammer for proper evidence.
https://i.ibb.co/TmDbf3y/Screenshot-20200108-090136.png (https://ibb.co/jg9WNXt)
https://i.ibb.co/gvMK066/Screenshot-20200108-090108.png (https://ibb.co/PTZH2tt)
https://i.ibb.co/3BF6fC2/Screenshot-20200108-085942.png (https://ibb.co/hDdQXmb)
https://i.ibb.co/LxvZmMx/Screenshot-20200108-085928.png (https://ibb.co/fkQxfbk)
https://i.ibb.co/fSK3NW8/Screenshot-20200108-085916.png (https://ibb.co/thN026Z)
https://i.ibb.co/nPMKCFB/Screenshot-20200108-085902.png (https://ibb.co/y4FxSrp)
https://i.ibb.co/dtvYvcs/Screenshot-20200108-085850.png (https://ibb.co/tz6r6hw)
https://i.ibb.co/1rhwS1q/Screenshot-20200108-085837.png (https://ibb.co/n7Z5W9c)
https://i.ibb.co/qp0SdXv/Screenshot-20200108-085827.png (https://ibb.co/WfDh6qL)

That's for those looking for the screenshot of our conversation.
 Everything is made available there.

I decided to dedicate myself to this so as to make sure anyone doesn't fall for this.
 I didn't fall for the scam, but I played along so I can get all these info about them


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bitcoindusts on January 08, 2020, 10:20:52 AM
Well when it comes to trusting people, I tend to scan this forum first for those who had took the same track. I don't use Telegram that much when it comes to communicating with someone else. I would take the same precaution in Facebook & Messenger.
I wonder how the OP was contacted by the dude though.

In a world of internet, there is one rule we should be aware of.  Do not trust anyone on the internet.  Though that is probably too extreme but it will keep yourself and stash safe.  Those message in the telegram regarding big amount including the case presented by OP is one way of some individual to milk  unsuspecting people of their money.  So whenever anyone approach us or send a message that we won this kind of stuff or offer a huge amount of money then we should be careful about it and be suspicious.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Astvile on January 08, 2020, 12:21:57 PM
I can relate so much in your story, but mine was not from any bitcoin gambling website it is from a website that uses in-game skins from CSGO and dota2. I literally won every bet he told me and I was too foolish to deposit money in order to "withdraw" my winnings lol. So this scam also do apply on bitcoin good thing you shared this.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: gweedo on January 08, 2020, 12:26:30 PM
If someone sends an unsolicited message to people on telegram about these kind of things, it's indeed fake. First, if he doesn't know you why would he care about helping you win money and second, if he's doing this to many people he's probably desperate for bitcoin from scamming a bunch of people. Some people even go as far as harassing random users on telegram to extort money from them. I wonder if this is against Telegram's terms of service.

For those of you who reported that scammers "randomly selected them from a list of all Crypto Discord users" - how did they even manage to get all the users' names? That's definitely a lie they told you.
Every day I receive more than 10 spam messages from scammer in telegram. It seems that they are trying to find new users to commit scam acts. I do not understand why people can still be fooled, because obviously we do not know each other but they want to benefit us. There is never anything free in this market and the price to pay for this trust is truly terrible


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Inkdatar on January 08, 2020, 12:34:28 PM
Thanks for sharing this, if one will message me regarding this and deposit money for sure I will think it's true too because of they money that you won. Anyway, good thing you remind us here, it will be a great help for all of us not to fall into this another scam scheme.  Scammers are really clever and will do anything for people to believed them.
that is very true, they keep advancing, so we all have to buckle up
An awareness to everyone that do not fall to these kind of scam. Indeed a great help to all, many scam through telegram sending message and offer this kind of bait. We must not fall easily even it’s too real. Scammers are everywhere so let us do on our own way to earned btc.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: awaydolly on January 08, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
Scammers are everywhere, so let's not get into that. You'll receive messages where they'll(scammers) will look for your profit which is never the case. So let's not get into the discussion from the beginning itself. You are here to earn profits for yourself, and there will be no one looking for your profits. So don't get fooled by any of the scam messages.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Wipeout2097 on January 16, 2020, 03:47:11 PM
Thank you for sharing,There are scam projects circulating and we are all responsible to expose them and share with community our circle that no one be victim of any scam project. You earn money with hard efforts and struggle but they took in minutes and you get thing at the end.

Invest or trade n popular leading platforms having legal documents,but never trust in any website r the fake platform which just came for to take your money.



Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: HarmonyA on January 24, 2020, 10:22:23 PM
Sometimes I wonder how people spend time and resources to invent means of defrauding people. This is a red flag in entirety.
Please,  we should endeavour to control our emotions, it's the tool this fraudsters uses to get their victims.
Never you fall for them, let starvation make them engage in something meaningful.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: FanatMonet on January 25, 2020, 04:17:06 AM
Free cheese only in a mousetrap. Personally, if someone wrote this to me, I would not even continue to have a dialogue with him, no one would begin to give such information to a complete stranger, if that were true.

No one will ever give you money for free.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Wintersoldier on January 25, 2020, 08:45:13 AM
Some of the people in the telegram has a full of promise to those people that they are going to be a victim. They are promising a huge amount of money for them to believe this scammers and steal their money when the trust of the victim is already 100%. So, you better not trust other people easily because they might abuse your kindness and stab you sooner or later.

What's the main characteristic of telegram after all? It is decentralize, you can be anonymous and you could talk to anyone you like, but it doesn't mean we need to put our trust to someone we haven't really know in the first place. Telegram is quite better if we are both having a deal where no parties need to take money out of their fund for transfer, but to consider, working as a team to be considered as a better option why telegram should be use. Because if they continue to use telegram to scam people. Eventually, we'll just waste the opportunities that could be provided by telegram.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: KnightElite on January 25, 2020, 09:11:19 AM
Some of the people in the telegram has a full of promise to those people that they are going to be a victim. They are promising a huge amount of money for them to believe this scammers and steal their money when the trust of the victim is already 100%. So, you better not trust other people easily because they might abuse your kindness and stab you sooner or later.

What's the main characteristic of telegram after all? It is decentralize, you can be anonymous and you could talk to anyone you like, but it doesn't mean we need to put our trust to someone we haven't really know in the first place. Telegram is quite better if we are both having a deal where no parties need to take money out of their fund for transfer, but to consider, working as a team to be considered as a better option why telegram should be use. Because if they continue to use telegram to scam people. Eventually, we'll just waste the opportunities that could be provided by telegram.
Telegram is originated from russia and it has characteristic of being decentralized where the government cannot control it and anyone can use it. But there are disadvantages in telegram because there are now many people got scammed through it. We cannot blame the telegram itself, if we been scammed then we should blame ourselves because we let ourselves to fall to their tricks.

Scammers are all over the social media platform, victims in telegram is also keep rising and it is the reason why we should be smart. Do not trust anyone, there are a lot of people who becoming hype after they got a message from strangers that they can earn big amount of money by just investing to them. We should have knowledge that we can use to protect our funds from scammers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: gundala on January 25, 2020, 11:15:29 PM
The point does not ever believe in someone you do not know, suddenly send DM and invite to invest, it is entirely fraudulent.
Especially if you are required to pay a sum of funds for withdrawals, that's withdrawals. And for newbies, please pay attention to this, don't just be influenced by the lure of big profits in an instant way, you need to be more realistic. Understand that everything requires a process.
And to prevent these scammers from having another chance to cheat, it helps you report the account, then block and leave, that's what I always do :D

And thank you to the OP for sharing this experience, hopefully, we can all take lessons from here.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Kelvinid on January 25, 2020, 11:26:33 PM
Scammers will come to us in a different way, there is no safe place to stay all especially to social media. And it was clear enough that this person is hiding his true identity. That is a common trick for the scammer but so sorry coz they will never succeed about their bad intentions. That is why it very important for newcomers to keep reading and be aware of how these scammers will trick people in order to become their prey.
And also, we don't need to be blind enough to see their actions as these attractive offering will cost a lot.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: diahsw on January 25, 2020, 11:48:00 PM
a lot of that happened, including me. they are too evil to do that, they also do everything they can to get your bitcoin ... we must be careful and careful to save our wallet address ..


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: TimeTeller on January 25, 2020, 11:58:46 PM
Scammers will come to us in a different way, there is no safe place to stay all especially to social media. And it was clear enough that this person is hiding his true identity. That is a common trick for the scammer but so sorry coz they will never succeed about their bad intentions. That is why it very important for newcomers to keep reading and be aware of how these scammers will trick people in order to become their prey.
And also, we don't need to be blind enough to see their actions as these attractive offering will cost a lot.

Attractive rewards, high ROI, passive income usually are the warning signals to look at.
Many can deceive users because they are offering great promotions that most of them forgot to dig deeper about the project.
People should not be greedy when it comes to investment because it will be their loss at the end.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Eugenar on January 26, 2020, 12:57:58 AM
Scammers will come to us in a different way, there is no safe place to stay all especially to social media. And it was clear enough that this person is hiding his true identity. That is a common trick for the scammer but so sorry coz they will never succeed about their bad intentions. That is why it very important for newcomers to keep reading and be aware of how these scammers will trick people in order to become their prey.
And also, we don't need to be blind enough to see their actions as these attractive offering will cost a lot.

In a world of digital currencies, decentralization, and anonymity, people have granted the freedom to do such things in their way. This includes being rich by not becoming popular, being rich in your own, but this doesn't necessarily mean that we need to just do the same thing we are doing before. Increasing technology impacts scammers to have different options to scam people. And with the increasing technology, we need to understand that the technology being developed is also the same technology we need to protect ourselves, utilize the features of security till we can, because in this case, the only problem we have is our personal responsibility.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: FaithInCrypto on January 26, 2020, 01:49:23 AM
I noticed most scammers nowadays use Telegram as a medium to scam more people who are into cryptocurrency.
I just don't know why though there are people who do not recognize which one is a scam or not as most of the offers in Telegram aren't true at all in my opinion.
Most greedy people are often the victim of these incidents.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Savemore on January 26, 2020, 02:23:51 AM
I'll just ignore if someone message me through telegram or other social networks. I'm now aware that scams are all over the internet. Why would I believe to what they keep saying? There is no proof that I can make money from their investments. They are just using attractive words in order for them to brainwashed their investors. Newbies are vulnerable to losses and it is the reason why they should not trust strangers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: adaseb on January 26, 2020, 04:27:39 AM
This is actually not new. There was a similar trend of these types of websites showing up in the gambling section. They basically had many tricks like giving you a huge faucet and letting you win big, like 1 BTC but to make any withdraws you would need to deposit at least >$100 or so.

Many people actually fell for this and I think the reason why is the psychology. Basically seeing you win 1 BTC which is $8335 today, looks tempting. So you feel connected to that money and basically think that "Its only $100" but you eventually fall for it and get scammed.

These are happening everywhere now, especially on Twitter, Discords and Slack groups.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Kimonoe on January 26, 2020, 05:19:11 AM
I'll just ignore if someone message me through telegram or other social networks. I'm now aware that scams are all over the internet. Why would I believe to what they keep saying? There is no proof that I can make money from their investments. They are just using attractive words in order for them to brainwashed their investors. Newbies are vulnerable to losses and it is the reason why they should not trust strangers.
right, we must be good at choosing investments. if we are in doubt, I think investing in bitcoin is an option. investing in new projects is very risky if we don't have good analytical skills, because fraud is spread everywhere, and sometimes their content is very interesting



Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: peter0425 on January 26, 2020, 05:22:41 AM
only noob and greed people fall from telegram scam attempt or other social media like Messenger or other platforms.

if it is Good to be true then it is surely a scam,so stop responding on those damn scammers and Blocked automatically once there is someone PMned you about investing .people we dont know will surely has a plan towards now and take advantages.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: pakhitheboss on January 26, 2020, 05:46:04 AM
The rate of desperation in the cryptocurrency industry is really hitting the roof.

 I decided to take this medium to enlighten users to protect themselves and their assets against a new scam in town.

 A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.
 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.

 He said he could make anyone he likes to win the bet, that he can proof it if I want, but I had to create an account on the above site and bet with at least $70.

He said he would have done it himself, but the team already knew him and his wallet address, so he wanted to make another person win and share in the winning 50/50.

 I told him I didn't have such money, so he insulted me, after which I told him to bring the $70 for the betting, then he will take 60% if he makes me win.

 He told me to give him my username on the site, which I did, immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
 He told me to place a bet, which I did, when the bet which lasts about 2mins was up, he made me a winner.

 I won $4998, he dropped his btc address and told me to withdraw and then send his 50%, to me it was too good to be true.

So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

When I showed him a screenshot, he pretended as though it was random, he started persuading me to deposit $100 to unfreeze the account,so I could withdraw the huge sum I had won.

 I believe by now you too have come to understand that it is a scam site, Allen Stanley is working to get people deposit $100 to get a winning that is not real.

 Even other members of the platform were chatting of a game that doesn't exist, making it seem like a normal activity, which we already know they are all part of this scam group.

Please do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.

Scammers are getting smarter day by day, While reading the content of your topic I also thought that it was a genuine requirement until this line.

Quote
So I attempted to withdraw to my btc wallet, and a message popped up, it read "because it's a new account, your assets are frozen, you will have to deposit about $100 - $170 to unfreeze your account.

That is a clear indication of something is fishy here. Of course, someone new to Bitcoin will not understand and will deposit the amount.

Thanks for sharing..


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: rodskee on January 26, 2020, 06:09:28 AM
what i see here?OP is also a GREED person because he does make a full conversation from a random person that only message him from telegram.

imagine he seems very interesting about the offers ,if he did not replied on that message and just ignore or blocked also report that random message so this will not end like this?

sometimes it is our own judgement that makes us vulnerable from scammers,that is why on my part?i never spend time dealing with this damn people because they don't worth my time.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Janation on January 26, 2020, 06:18:05 AM
I just hope the pattern of scammers never change so people could be used and identify it quickly.

As long as people that we don't know force us to do something like this, think twice. I am not saying that all of the people who offered you like this is a scam, but most of them is. Thank you for sharing though, this guy might not stop and use other names to scam other people, atleast we all know his ploy.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: atjiat on January 26, 2020, 04:56:47 PM
I just hope the pattern of scammers never change so people could be used and identify it quickly.

As long as people that we don't know force us to do something like this, think twice. I am not saying that all of the people who offered you like this is a scam, but most of them is. Thank you for sharing though, this guy might not stop and use other names to scam other people, atleast we all know his ploy.
I very much hope that the time will come when the cryptocurrency will be legalized worldwide and any fraudulent actions will be prosecuted.  In general, in order to achieve this goal and to obtain a good result in the search for justice, each cryptocurrency user will need to identify himself and his cryptocurrency state.  But there are always pros and cons in our lives and we must set priorities ourselves.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Lizzylove1 on January 26, 2020, 07:56:53 PM
He owns the website, they are scammers who want to rip off newbies and the greedy. In crypto, Money are usually not free, you have got to work for it, when you see sweet offers, it's time to be greedy with your money.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Sanugarid on January 26, 2020, 08:20:45 PM
Scammers will come to us in a different way, there is no safe place to stay all especially to social media. And it was clear enough that this person is hiding his true identity. That is a common trick for the scammer but so sorry coz they will never succeed about their bad intentions. That is why it very important for newcomers to keep reading and be aware of how these scammers will trick people in order to become their prey.
And also, we don't need to be blind enough to see their actions as these attractive offering will cost a lot.

In a world of digital currencies, decentralization, and anonymity, people have granted the freedom to do such things in their way. This includes being rich by not becoming popular, being rich in your own, but this doesn't necessarily mean that we need to just do the same thing we are doing before. Increasing technology impacts scammers to have different options to scam people. And with the increasing technology, we need to understand that the technology being developed is also the same technology we need to protect ourselves, utilize the features of security till we can, because in this case, the only problem we have is our personal responsibility.
Scammers are everywhere that is why we should be aware that anytime they can have a chance to get our money if we dont be alert or aware in our every moves and decision. Thats is reason why trusting someone is too risky because you dont actually know if that person have a good intention for you and really wanna help you because sometimes people are taking advantage of your goodness. Do not trust people that is really offering good stuffs maybe that is real but you have the responsibility to gain more information by yourself if that stuff they offering are legit and if not, you can ignore them or report that they are trying to scam you. We are in a digital world and we are holding or making money that is also digital so we should be aware everytime.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Kelvinid on January 28, 2020, 08:13:51 AM
Scammers will come to us in a different way, there is no safe place to stay all especially to social media. And it was clear enough that this person is hiding his true identity. That is a common trick for the scammer but so sorry coz they will never succeed about their bad intentions. That is why it very important for newcomers to keep reading and be aware of how these scammers will trick people in order to become their prey.
And also, we don't need to be blind enough to see their actions as these attractive offering will cost a lot.

In a world of digital currencies, decentralization, and anonymity, people have granted the freedom to do such things in their way. This includes being rich by not becoming popular, being rich in your own, but this doesn't necessarily mean that we need to just do the same thing we are doing before. Increasing technology impacts scammers to have different options to scam people. And with the increasing technology, we need to understand that the technology being developed is also the same technology we need to protect ourselves, utilize the features of security till we can, because in this case, the only problem we have is our personal responsibility.
Scammers are everywhere that is why we should be aware that anytime they can have a chance to get our money if we dont be alert or aware in our every moves and decision. Thats is reason why trusting someone is too risky because you dont actually know if that person have a good intention for you and really wanna help you because sometimes people are taking advantage of your goodness. Do not trust people that is really offering good stuffs maybe that is real but you have the responsibility to gain more information by yourself if that stuff they offering are legit and if not, you can ignore them or report that they are trying to scam you. We are in a digital world and we are holding or making money that is also digital so we should be aware everytime.
And maybe there is no way to stop either. Investors will be getting smart but scammers will do the same. It some cases that we even got surprised at a certain project that turns into scam without even it looks suspicious. This means that they could still trick and perceive us at all means. In this market, we can assure our security nor to think that it all be fine. Even we know their play but still, we need to be careful especially in investing new projects. It'll be safe we only just invest the old and existing projects that it hase been already in the market for a long time.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: tvplus006 on January 28, 2020, 08:42:47 AM
And maybe there is no way to stop either. Investors will be getting smart but scammers will do the same. It some cases that we even got surprised at a certain project that turns into scam without even it looks suspicious. This means that they could still trick and perceive us at all means. In this market, we can assure our security nor to think that it all be fine. Even we know their play but still, we need to be careful especially in investing new projects. It'll be safe we only just invest the old and existing projects that it hase been already in the market for a long time.

But next to hidden fraud, we often see an open scam. Scammers don't even try to make an effort to make it less obvious. Every day, new Ponzi schemes appear. And every day there are new "investors" who are ready to risk their money for unrealistic interest.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Assface16678 on February 15, 2020, 12:44:38 PM
Scammers will come to us in a different way, there is no safe place to stay all especially to social media. And it was clear enough that this person is hiding his true identity. That is a common trick for the scammer but so sorry coz they will never succeed about their bad intentions. That is why it very important for newcomers to keep reading and be aware of how these scammers will trick people in order to become their prey.
And also, we don't need to be blind enough to see their actions as these attractive offering will cost a lot.

In a world of digital currencies, decentralization, and anonymity, people have granted the freedom to do such things in their way. This includes being rich by not becoming popular, being rich in your own, but this doesn't necessarily mean that we need to just do the same thing we are doing before. Increasing technology impacts scammers to have different options to scam people. And with the increasing technology, we need to understand that the technology being developed is also the same technology we need to protect ourselves, utilize the features of security till we can, because in this case, the only problem we have is our personal responsibility.
Scammers are everywhere that is why we should be aware that anytime they can have a chance to get our money if we dont be alert or aware in our every moves and decision. Thats is reason why trusting someone is too risky because you dont actually know if that person have a good intention for you and really wanna help you because sometimes people are taking advantage of your goodness. Do not trust people that is really offering good stuffs maybe that is real but you have the responsibility to gain more information by yourself if that stuff they offering are legit and if not, you can ignore them or report that they are trying to scam you. We are in a digital world and we are holding or making money that is also digital so we should be aware everytime.
And maybe there is no way to stop either. Investors will be getting smart but scammers will do the same. It some cases that we even got surprised at a certain project that turns into scam without even it looks suspicious. This means that they could still trick and perceive us at all means. In this market, we can assure our security nor to think that it all be fine. Even we know their play but still, we need to be careful especially in investing new projects. It'll be safe we only just invest the old and existing projects that it hase been already in the market for a long time.

We all know that cryptocurrency today is one of the good payments for the transaction and now good for paying for bills, services and now you can convert into fiat currency so you can now use it just to pay into the real world or assets. Today one of the best communication tools is the telegram and many people using it just to ask other people into a cryptocurrency-related so they can easily exchange ideas also they have a lot of different platform inside like mining, wallet, and investments but still don't trust all the time because some those just scam always take care to the people you think that is trustable because some of them are just want to scam you but first they are getting your trust to avoid this it is better to focus on your self and just get an idea but don't make any transaction to both of you.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Moshaid on February 15, 2020, 01:01:00 PM
Since I got into the cryptocurrency world mostly joining several blockchain telegram groups I do get message from random people that I should invest in this, invest in that. Some asking me to help verify their exchange account and they will send me some fraction of bitcoin, also some impersonating project admins or CEOs so as to scam gullible ones. Although I have fallen into one of their traps but thanks to this forum, I now have more exposure on how to go about this next time I come across such offers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: shoreno on February 15, 2020, 01:14:42 PM
i dont read the whole part of your convos but the first lines already make me say that it was shady   .telegram is a den of scammers  . i use telegram and i often get messages from random strangers introducing this and that  . and one of those was simillar to your story  . what i did is i replied directly that im not interested with them and i wana block them now  because i know that we both are only wasting our time   . he wont get anything from me and i will not accept any of his other offers   . the reason why they are desperate and rushing its because cryptos now are increasing and indemand  .


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: yazher on February 15, 2020, 01:33:43 PM
Thank you so much for this information because this scamming method could have victims some newbies. Of course, this is some new method of fraud. It's really good to be true for someone who wins this huge amount of money. the scammer knows what he gonna say pretending to be truthful. Man, you cannot really put your trust in these people, If you do, they will take advantage of you. I hope more users read this topic for them to be aware of this kind of scam.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: fiulpro on February 15, 2020, 01:40:47 PM
Good thing would be asking the person how he got the number and thank you for sharing such a valuable information you really don't know who would have fallen for this and lost a huge amount..
Am really sad that people are doing things like these when we are trying to make bitcoins known to the world and maintain it's positive image , this will give the government another way to criticize the bitcoins methods .
only one you can trust is you in today's world. -_- sad.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on February 15, 2020, 05:41:15 PM
immediately he sent $70 to my dashboard.
This is where I think it is shady,

Who would have deposit a certain amount to someone's account and already given you a guaranteed winning. Afterwards, he is asking you to deposit more than the first deposit just to unfreeze your account.

Scammers will realy do everything to find their prey.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: joeperry on February 16, 2020, 02:23:14 PM
Thank you for sharing your experience, I hope that everyone would get the chance to read this post so it become one of the ways to encourage people to be very cautious in making deals online. I think this type of techniques in luring people to grab the offer is called enforced indebtedness in psychology. Scammers would make it look like they are giving others a favor, condemning them, to return the favor and do something out of that enforced indebtedness. It's just sad that small scale fraud are not just the thing now, there are bigger fraud scheme by bigger bigger entity like a company and organization. Let us all be diligent and cautious every time.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: jhonjhon on February 16, 2020, 02:31:48 PM
It really pays to regularly check on this forum because we will be able to know new types of scams that scammers are creating just to get other peoples money or coins. The best way to beat scam is being informed and thanks to you for sharing this for us not be fall for this type of scam. It is very sad that a lot of people are too desperate to get coins without doing any work and it is more sad to know that more people are still being scammed. Anyways, scammers are everywhere so we should be very careful where to send our coins to.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Mpamaegbu on February 16, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Pease do not fall for this new scam betxloot.com, they might want to entice you with huge winnings, but a they want us your btc, don't give in.
The honest truth remains that if people don't get greedy it will be very difficult to scam them. It's only greed that makes people want to reap where they never sowed. Easily winning a bet as high as the OP stated with a stake of a mere $70 in less than 3mins should be a frightening promise. It should scare any sane mind and ring the bell that something is fishy somewhere.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: joinfree on February 17, 2020, 06:16:55 AM
Thanks for this quick alert. I think it's high time these scammers and hackers pick up a new style of deceiving people lol. This one is pretty old, archaic and does not make sense until you get so greedy to fall for this. Anyway, i hope newbies are learning from this and also to try and get a work to do in this industry so that you don't really get to the point of considering these kinds of worthless proposals.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: peter0425 on February 17, 2020, 07:08:44 AM
Thanks for this quick alert. I think it's high time these scammers and hackers pick up a new style of deceiving people lol. This one is pretty old, archaic and does not make sense until you get so greedy to fall for this. Anyway, i hope newbies are learning from this and also to try and get a work to do in this industry so that you don't really get to the point of considering these kinds of worthless proposals.
even not newbies becomes victim as well and not only greed,because sometimes these hackers are really good and can deceived people at all chances.
Sometimes I wonder how people spend time and resources to invent means of defrauding people. This is a red flag in entirety.
Please,  we should endeavour to control our emotions, it's the tool this fraudsters uses to get their victims.
Never you fall for them, let starvation make them engage in something meaningful.
well, I guess they are always counting on the greediness of people, so to them it's just an investment that will pay off once someone falls for it.
and also the weaknesses and vulnerability specially those who are desperate to invest and earn.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: plvbob0070 on February 17, 2020, 10:28:00 AM
Every time I always see a new message in my telegram account and most of them ask me if I do investment in cryptocurrency. But, I never entertain those messages because I know it is a pure scam and most of the cases of the scams are from the message in Telegram that's why we need to be careful especially if you are talking to someone that you didn't know. All scammers will always find new ways to scam people and sad to say, there are still people who fall on those scams. Always ask some people who you know if the site is legit or not and do not ever believe to someone that you didn't know. And, be aware of this and do your own research about it if you think it's a scam.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: lizarder on February 17, 2020, 12:24:06 PM
Sometimes I wonder how people spend time and resources to invent means of defrauding people. This is a red flag in entirety.
Please,  we should endeavour to control our emotions, it's the tool this fraudsters uses to get their victims.
Never you fall for them, let starvation make them engage in something meaningful.
well, I guess they are always counting on the greediness of people, so to them it's just an investment that will pay off once someone falls for it.

We need to be very careful before we really want to invest our finances in the right place, because now there are many investments that lead to scams, for example with HYIP investments that have a percentage value that is given up to hundreds of percent, but ends up scam


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: puertorikosena on February 17, 2020, 12:51:48 PM
I think that for a long time it’s time for everyone to take it as a rule: if they write to you on any of the social networks with an offer to earn money, then be sure that they are scammers. People and services that work without cheating do not send spam and do not use other types of dubious advertising. Yes, in general, you always need to be careful when investing your money.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: redsun114 on February 18, 2020, 06:26:06 AM
Lol if the team already knows him and his wallet, why didn’t he create another wallet? You can create many wallets and addresses as much as you want. There is no limit when it comes to creating addresses and wallet, so his approach is already dumb. And apart from that, if he knew such secret why didn’t he tell his family to do that and so he would help them win and they share the money or doesn’t he want his family to be rich?

Some of these scammers are just so stupid and only dumb people will fall for some of these their dumb tactics. I have even seen the new strategy that they all now use on YouTube and pretend to be celebrities while they are not lol ;D. They create YouTube channels and disable the comments.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Janation on February 18, 2020, 10:54:53 AM
I very much hope that the time will come when the cryptocurrency will be legalized worldwide and any fraudulent actions will be prosecuted.  In general, in order to achieve this goal and to obtain a good result in the search for justice, each cryptocurrency user will need to identify himself and his cryptocurrency state.  But there are always pros and cons in our lives and we must set priorities ourselves.

When a cryptocurrency is legalized in a country, that is enough.

The problem here is that how could the government identify the criminal. That would be really hard since we all know that Bitcoin users are anonymous. That is the reason why we should be able to identify a scam on our own. My mutual friend has experience out of it and the police are not really interested on what she's reporting to them since they will not be able to track them without information to that individual.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: dongosquad on February 22, 2020, 10:33:40 PM
The easier, the more fortunately, the more suspicious as scams. We must realize that something big also has a big risk, not easy and instantaneously. This is what often makes a newbie trapped, they want to profit immediately but in a way that is less logical. It would be better to provide in-depth education related to the cryptocurrency ecosystem, although there are many opportunities for profit, it needs to be ascertained whether it is really legit or not. One small step can make a difference, let's provide true education to the people closest, friends, family, etc. related to cryptocurrency so that it's not easy to get caught in such fraud.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Google+ on February 22, 2020, 10:47:52 PM
I very much hope that the time will come when the cryptocurrency will be legalized worldwide and any fraudulent actions will be prosecuted.  In general, in order to achieve this goal and to obtain a good result in the search for justice, each cryptocurrency user will need to identify himself and his cryptocurrency state.  But there are always pros and cons in our lives and we must set priorities ourselves.

When a cryptocurrency is legalized in a country, that is enough.

The problem here is that how could the government identify the criminal. That would be really hard since we all know that Bitcoin users are anonymous. That is the reason why we should be able to identify a scam on our own. My mutual friend has experience out of it and the police are not really interested on what she's reporting to them since they will not be able to track them without information to that individual.
well, to detect people who do scam is very difficult because the wallet owned by no one knows who it is but in some exchange places have started to do KYC for the participants so that when the wallet is used to hold all the scam assets and suddenly enter the place exchange then maybe you can find out who is the owner of the wallet from the transaction history that can be tracked.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: kaneki007 on February 23, 2020, 06:35:13 AM
I often get messages on telegrams about this, and I already know if it's a scam. It doesn't make sense to withdraw but has to deposit a not small amount first, so when someone offers it to me then I will immediately block him because it is very annoying.
But not a few fake accounts used by scammers to get their victims to want to make a deposit to their scam website.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Debonaire217 on February 23, 2020, 08:12:02 AM
I've encountered similar act like this, but in this case, the medium is not telegram but facebook. Someone just add me and after I've viewed his profile, I've accepted him knowing that he is a fan of cryptocurrency, I could he, he post too much regarding mining and stuffs about crypto, but one time, when that person messaged me about investment, I already know his plan so what I've did I've asked him deeply based from my knowledge in mining and cryptocurrency. This is when I've found out that he's intention was just to scam people and his lack of knowledge about the fields proves it. What this mean is that, we, ourselves, should be responsible and knowledgeable about crypto so they cannot just put some words to trick us around and scam us.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Pamadar on February 23, 2020, 04:49:21 PM
I often get messages on telegrams about this, and I already know if it's a scam. It doesn't make sense to withdraw but has to deposit a not small amount first, so when someone offers it to me then I will immediately block him because it is very annoying.
But not a few fake accounts used by scammers to get their victims to want to make a deposit to their scam website.
They are using fake accounts in order to attract people's attention, this kind of scammers are well organized as they are aiming for victims who are aiming to get easy money, people who are not doing their research that why it's easier for scammers to invite them and tricked them to fall from this practiced of scammed offers.
By doing deeper research you'll be able to secure yourself not entertained such offers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: rodskee on April 15, 2020, 12:12:26 PM
Not once, not twice, not even thrice! They've come to me on telegram, telling me one story or the other. Even as I speak right now, they still message me. I'll advice everyone to report and block such accounts. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE OVER THE INTERNET. IT'S A STUPID THING TO DO. A word is enough for the wise.
maybe that is very Harsh mate because there are some folks that trustable even in internet and also better say that "Dont talk to Strangers"because some people here in internet can be in time our Buddy and some can really be trusted.
What is important to not entertain those random account that will PM you and some are promising you to profit or even helping them to earn.
those are surely scammers and Report and block .


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bitbunnny on April 15, 2020, 12:50:08 PM
Lol if the team already knows him and his wallet, why didn’t he create another wallet? You can create many wallets and addresses as much as you want. There is no limit when it comes to creating addresses and wallet, so his approach is already dumb. And apart from that, if he knew such secret why didn’t he tell his family to do that and so he would help them win and they share the money or doesn’t he want his family to be rich?

Some of these scammers are just so stupid and only dumb people will fall for some of these their dumb tactics. I have even seen the new strategy that they all now use on YouTube and pretend to be celebrities while they are not lol ;D. They create YouTube channels and disable the comments.

Maybe, but for his luck there are enough stupid people to fall for his scam, he doesn't actually need to try to hard and be too smart. This is sad fact, but it's true. And there is no efficient way to stop such scamers and they always find their victims. Education and raising awareness among people it's the only way.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Anonylz on April 15, 2020, 01:00:10 PM
Ones an unknown member contact you on telegram and immediately start offering you those kind of money making talk, just know they are scammers, there are thousands of them in telegram, they waiting for who will fall victim,
I usually block them and report ones they approach me, sometimes ones you ask any help related question in a project group, immediately some scammers will act like admin and pm you, better to be very careful, telegram is home of scammers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: bearexin on April 16, 2020, 01:43:26 PM
Lots of scams are being reported recently. Earlier this morning before I came on this forum, I saw a news the FBI has issued or a warning that people should be careful about cryptocurrency scams during this Covid-19 period. There are people who don't care about what others are going through, even some are out there robbing others due to this Coronavirus lockdown.

People have to be careful. Stop believing just anything you see online, before you invest in anything, be sure that you do proper verification so that you don't lose your money to these scammers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on April 16, 2020, 01:57:06 PM
Ones an unknown member contact you on telegram and immediately start offering you those kind of money making talk, just know they are scammers, there are thousands of them in telegram, they waiting for who will fall victim,
I usually block them and report ones they approach me, sometimes ones you ask any help related question in a project group, immediately some scammers will act like admin and pm you, better to be very careful, telegram is home of scammers.
Good thing that I don't use Telegram quite often but only when the times that I need to use that for DMs. There are many types of scams happening right now as of this pandemic.
There are people claiming to sell cure for COVID-19, while there are also people claiming donations from people. I recently read a thread previously in this board about COVID-19 scammers targeting crypto holders so careful with that.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Balili on April 18, 2020, 01:49:01 PM
Not once, not twice, not even thrice! They've come to me on telegram, telling me one story or the other. Even as I speak right now, they still message me. I'll advice everyone to report and block such accounts. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE OVER THE INTERNET. IT'S A STUPID THING TO DO. A word is enough for the wise.
maybe that is very Harsh mate because there are some folks that trustable even in internet and also better say that "Dont talk to Strangers"because some people here in internet can be in time our Buddy and some can really be trusted.
What is important to not entertain those random account that will PM you and some are promising you to profit or even helping them to earn.
those are surely scammers and Report and block .

That you are well poised to distinguish scammers on telegram doesn't mean everyone else is, I believe that why OP posted this so that even the new users can take caution.

 Thanks for sharing this, there are only a few people who would want to share their experience and warn others.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: denzkilim on April 18, 2020, 03:04:40 PM
I've encountered similar act like this, but in this case, the medium is not telegram but facebook. Someone just add me and after I've viewed his profile, I've accepted him knowing that he is a fan of cryptocurrency, I could he, he post too much regarding mining and stuffs about crypto, but one time, when that person messaged me about investment, I already know his plan so what I've did I've asked him deeply based from my knowledge in mining and cryptocurrency. This is when I've found out that he's intention was just to scam people and his lack of knowledge about the fields proves it. What this mean is that, we, ourselves, should be responsible and knowledgeable about crypto so they cannot just put some words to trick us around and scam us.
That's why I never accept friend requests from people who I don't know in real life especially on social media using my real account. Scammers are everywhere and one thing that they are lacking about Crypto Currencies are knowledge, they only know the basic like sending and receiving or trading. The main weapon that we could use against them is our knowledge.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Balili on April 18, 2020, 05:12:05 PM
I very much hope that the time will come when the cryptocurrency will be legalized worldwide and any fraudulent actions will be prosecuted.  In general, in order to achieve this goal and to obtain a good result in the search for justice, each cryptocurrency user will need to identify himself and his cryptocurrency state.  But there are always pros and cons in our lives and we must set priorities ourselves.

When a cryptocurrency is legalized in a country, that is enough.

The problem here is that how could the government identify the criminal. That would be really hard since we all know that Bitcoin users are anonymous. That is the reason why we should be able to identify a scam on our own. My mutual friend has experience out of it and the police are not really interested on what she's reporting to them since they will not be able to track them without information to that individual.

Avoiding to be scammed on the crypto space is by the grace of God. Some projects will come out so real and end up duping individuals.
If countries legalise cryptocurrency, the scam might be reduced but will never be eliminated, when people are still scammed with banks, the scammers transfer money from one account to another and Banks have identity verification of customers yet people still loose their money.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Zionatin on April 18, 2020, 09:33:43 PM
That isn't anything new. Many people approach you on social media. If they say they want to make money with you to be very careful. The whole idea sounds silly. Why would the owner give a mod the power to make a bet win or lose? If they know his address he could just make another. Also the amount scammed is not that much. You would make much more just going straight and running a legit casino.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Yatsan on April 19, 2020, 02:51:04 AM
A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.

 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.
An obvious red flag from a scammer on telegram, if these people has too good be true offers related to money on any social media website such fb, twitter especially to all messaging apps such telegram, be cautious, its 99% scam.

Thanks for sharing this btw.
A lot of people are contacting me in telegram. They always say that they have a good investment yet, I never believe even one of them. Many people specially the newbies are easily attracted to these scammers. They convey fastly in numbers and flowering words because they don't know the real in cryptocurrency.
Hopefully many people will learn more about cryptocurrency scam investment. So that, these scammers will be eradicated.
This isn't new, but yeah scammers on telegram are increasing day by day. If you are a newbie and doesn't know whats happening you are likely to scam. I remember even on trading exchange telegram there's also a lot of scammers. When you posted that you have a problem regarding their exchange there will be a lot of fake admin that it going to message you and will ask for your personal info, and if you get trick by that you are going to be scam. You should always be careful on telegram cause, there's a lot scammers there.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on April 19, 2020, 03:04:35 AM
Ones an unknown member contact you on telegram and immediately start offering you those kind of money making talk, just know they are scammers, there are thousands of them in telegram, they waiting for who will fall victim,
I usually block them and report ones they approach me, sometimes ones you ask any help related question in a project group, immediately some scammers will act like admin and pm you, better to be very careful, telegram is home of scammers.
Talking telegram is home for the scammer is false, bitcoin there are a lot of projects and some group that gives a lot of profit for its user. Such as me who joined a signal channel for trading and it is free, I've been one month joined a group and have given a profit to me. In this case, you can increase your knowledge and learning something new to other people comparing you just learned with yourself.

I think it depends on your purpose or your knowledge of this field. You won't even fall to the scammers if you know that he is a scammers and you know the characteristic of scammers. In this forum, there are a lot of ways to prove a legit and a scam project and this is way, therefore you should read and learning it especially for newbies, it is so important to know it.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: denzkilim on April 19, 2020, 04:31:42 AM
A guy by name "Allen Stanley" messaged me on telegram.
 He said he wants us to make money together.

 I told him to go on, he said he works with Betxloot.com,a crypto betting site.
An obvious red flag from a scammer on telegram, if these people has too good be true offers related to money on any social media website such fb, twitter especially to all messaging apps such telegram, be cautious, its 99% scam.

Thanks for sharing this btw.
A lot of people are contacting me in telegram. They always say that they have a good investment yet, I never believe even one of them. Many people specially the newbies are easily attracted to these scammers. They convey fastly in numbers and flowering words because they don't know the real in cryptocurrency.
Hopefully many people will learn more about cryptocurrency scam investment. So that, these scammers will be eradicated.
This isn't new, but yeah scammers on telegram are increasing day by day. If you are a newbie and doesn't know whats happening you are likely to scam. I remember even on trading exchange telegram there's also a lot of scammers. When you posted that you have a problem regarding their exchange there will be a lot of fake admin that it going to message you and will ask for your personal info, and if you get trick by that you are going to be scam. You should always be careful on telegram cause, there's a lot scammers there.
Scammers are lurking all over the crypto space especially on telegram where they easily creating accounts and pretending to be someone. There are also scammers that pretend to be admin or part of some exchange and when you are having trouble with that exchange they will immediately message you and pretend to help you. So everyone should be vigilant right now to protect themselves from those ill-minded people.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: MCobian on April 19, 2020, 05:30:27 AM
I also experienced a similar experience, suddenly someone sent a message to my telegram account. And suspicious i do not know him,
but he offered an investment of $ 200. Later in 7 days will get 100% profit, for me a reward it's too good to be true. So I did not respond
to him, the conclusions now are a lot on social media scammers try to commit fraud. So be careful not to be easily attracted to offers that
are too good to be true, that's a frequent method used by scammers.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: cheater detector on April 19, 2020, 05:43:34 AM
I also experienced a similar experience, suddenly someone sent a message to my telegram account. And suspicious i do not know him,
but he offered an investment of $ 200. Later in 7 days will get 100% profit, for me a reward it's too good to be true. So I did not respond
to him, the conclusions now are a lot on social media scammers try to commit fraud. So be careful not to be easily attracted to offers that
are too good to be true, that's a frequent method used by scammers.

That's just classic ponzi scheme from fraudster. There so many ponzi scheme in this forum and other platform too. If you see any sites/someone offering Earn ...% in ..... days just ignore it or open accusations about that's sites.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: wingfield_crypto on May 14, 2020, 06:40:32 PM
      This experience is very interesting, although it is not a happy one. I'm curious though if you deposited that $ 100 that you didn't say.
Anyway, an ingenious way to fool people, but all of us, we have to start from the idea that nothing is free in this world and no one gives us anything without working. Whoever wants to do a 50/50 business chooses to do it with a friend of his, not with someone on the telegram.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: kezinaur14 on May 14, 2020, 10:29:37 PM
      This experience is very interesting, although it is not a happy one. I'm curious though if you deposited that $ 100 that you didn't say.
Anyway, an ingenious way to fool people, but all of us, we have to start from the idea that nothing is free in this world and no one gives us anything without working. Whoever wants to do a 50/50 business chooses to do it with a friend of his, not with someone on the telegram.

The baseline, or, the majority of people in the world is Gullible, that's a reality we have to face. If they keep hearing about bitcoin but don't bother looking into it, and then someone offers them a effortless way to make it big with it, what they have heard is people becoming millionaires with it but don't know the mechanic behind it - they just think it's that easy. So they go ahead and get themselves in suboptimal situations. Looking it that way it's not so hard to believe how many people get scammed left and right. Not to say they aren't guilty at all but just giving some light on their thoughtprocess on the matter.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: Shasha80 on December 13, 2020, 12:58:51 AM
Now that scammers are doing more creative and serious for scams, what happened to the opening post. I experienced it several years ago,
I forgot what the name of the site was. But I still remember the deception method which is very similar. We really have to be careful if there
are offers that are too good to be true, because making money requires hard work. It is very suspicious if there is an offer that is very profitable
but without the need to do hard work.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: irixo10 on December 13, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
Most times, I used to think that probably before anyone joins the crypto space, the person needs to purge himself from greed, because it is obvious that greed is the main reason why many people keeps falling into the hands of scammers, because these scammers have come to know that, once they are able to entice the person with mouth watering offers, they are likely to get or scam the person. There are many scammers like that in telegram and takes one who is enlightened and contented to be free from them, the clear truth is, scammers will keep advancing their tactics and the best way to avoid them is to ignore their messages on telegram. It's good you were able to identify it is a scam and I hope many others will learn from this.


Title: Re: They want your Bticoin. Don't fall for this new scam, it's too real
Post by: vaultman on December 13, 2020, 06:49:25 PM
Trusting a random telegram person, following a link and playing on an incomprehensible casino site was initially a bad idea. I don't know who can fall for such a scam in 2020. In the telegram, most messages from unknown users represent some kind of fraudulent scheme, so you shouldn't even read, let alone answer anyone there if you don't know this person. This is the simplest advice that will allow you not to follow similar fraud schemes in the future.