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Title: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rruchi man on June 05, 2021, 06:35:04 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: uneng on June 05, 2021, 08:15:03 PM
The reason why one person is going to win instead of his adversary is commonly explained as luck, but behind the luck factor there may be God acting through his spiritual laws. We as human beings aren't able to understand how these laws work exactly and I believe it's really supposed to not be possible to understand them. It's part of the mistery of the life and the universe, which humanity lacks answers for (even the atheists).
As we can see it's not possible to say why God favours one or another person in determined situations through our limited vision. But I believe God isn't against any human being and no one is abandoned by him. If the person loses a bet today, but lives a decent life, far from addictions and traps of the evil, this individual will be rewarded by God somehow (not necessarily winning the jackpot, anyway).


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fatunad on June 05, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Prayer or any spiritual take wouldn't work in gambling and its just a bit common or normal on having this kind of behavior on most gamblers on where they do rely with divine power regarding into their bets which I don't seen any sense for someone to do so because Gods has nothing to do with our gambling habits and engagement. Odds would always vary on chances and no external factors could really affect on someones winning rate and this is why it isn't really that relevant nor
never been effective but since people do have this kind of behavior then let it be and let them do those things that they do believe.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: just_Alice on June 05, 2021, 08:38:09 PM
It really depends on what you believe in. Obviously, statistically speaking and from a strictly scientific point of view, every person has the exact same chance at winning and losing, regardless of what they believe. The thing with spiritual people is that everything happens to them just as it would have happened to someone else, but they see the hidden signs and whenever they get lucky they think that prayers helped them. Whenever they're unlucky they just ignore that.

On the other note, some religions prohibit gambling, so praying on the win might not be the best idea. Also, though I'm not really an expert, but I think that according to religious beliefs prayers are meant for something important, like the health and life of your family, and so on. So I think such actions might be taken as blasphemy because the only thing gambling can bring us is money, and there are much more important things than money in life.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Zilon on June 05, 2021, 08:42:23 PM
Betting comes with luck so therefore it's not a ground to justify that religious activity has a lot to do with gambling. It's just a game of luck and chance if one finds luck from his/her prediction then such individual gets rewarded anything outside this just doesn't match up. Most cases gamblers pray and end up loosing out, so for me it doesn't really matter much. Ones you get lucky enough your prediction pays off anything outside that keeps the fun going. it's not necessarily compulsory that a gambler must win from his prediction most times we just play for the fun.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dunfida on June 05, 2021, 08:53:13 PM
We do have different beliefs and different perception in different things in life and this is why some people are really praying up in regards for their bets to win but i do agree on whats said above that no prayer could really be effective in terms of gambling. Prayer has nothing to do with it because you are the ones making your own fate when it comes to your bets.

Some do pray and some do just simply put up their bets and just leave and wait for the result. In regards with prayer or something it doesnt really raise up the chance of winning so i can say that there no point on doing this.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Slow death on June 05, 2021, 10:25:31 PM
you can't put god in games of chance, doing this kind of thing won't make the person lucky, on the contrary, it will lead the person to become addicted and with serious psychological problems. If there's something I've seen many times, it's just that things like games will always depend on each person's ability and luck, they won't depend on religion. there are people who spend money in churches thinking that they will be very lucky, this is a serious mistake.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: janggernaut on June 05, 2021, 10:46:23 PM


Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

From me, it's not. Gambling result will not affect what we pray. If we won, it's because our luck only. It's just supersitition when people believe they won in gambling because they have prayed before. I never do that, as i think gambling is gambling, when our luck comes, we will win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Kemarit on June 05, 2021, 11:25:54 PM
Nah, gambling is base on luck and I don't think that spiritual being is involved or can change the result in our favor. But gamblers are very superstitious, again, each and everyone has it's own belief.

So if they thought that someone can higher can guide them, so let them be. I have friends who prays before placing their bet as well, so I just respect them, simply as that, but it won't have any effect on the outcome though.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Alisha-k on June 05, 2021, 11:40:29 PM
This post keeps different thoughts flying through my head how about consulting a harbalist or a witch doctor before going to gamble although I know a few people would do that but does it really work. Some people say it does but I strongly believe it could be coincidence and a factor of luck and chance not necessarily having any religious attachment to it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: TimeTeller on June 05, 2021, 11:43:59 PM
Nah, gambling is base on luck and I don't think that spiritual being is involved or can change the result in our favor. But gamblers are very superstitious, again, each and everyone has it's own belief.

So if they thought that someone can higher can guide them, so let them be. I have friends who prays before placing their bet as well, so I just respect them, simply as that, but it won't have any effect on the outcome though.

Just respect everyone's beliefs, I guess.
But I believe, there's no such thing or spiritual being that is influencing the results.
It is really based on luck however, people are free to follow what they believe in.
We all have different upbringing in terms or religion or culture, so those will be the factors why people believe on something.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Saint-loup on June 05, 2021, 11:57:38 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Yes you're right people don't think about that when they pray or when they use some good-luck charms. How it will work if other people pray or use a lucky charm on the other team or outcome. Will the team/player or outcome with the bigger number of prayers win? Or it's not a matter of number but a matter of power? Then how do you know which prayer and good-luck charm is better than others?  


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: romero121 on June 05, 2021, 11:57:50 PM
Earlier we had a thread for the discussion on superstitious beliefs on gambling. This means while doing gambling the users have specific things to do. Some used to wear specific color dress, some used to gamble sitting at a specific location. This way we can see different people into gambling with varied beliefs. Same as that is the prayer, one who believe just pray before placing bets. Whether the bet wins or losses is the secondary thing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: xSkylarx on June 06, 2021, 01:14:14 AM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

I think some of us did this in desperate times, this made me remembered something and still feel a little guilty because I am agnostic and yet I prayed to something I deny to believe because I was looking for signs if he was there to help me during struggling times. My prayer worked that time but I know myself that God didn't all do the work that time for me to win, I know that luck was still involved that if I continued playing I would just end up with an empty pocket. He somehow helped me that time to overcome my greediness to continue gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: TravelMug on June 06, 2021, 01:19:09 AM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

I think some of us did this in desperate times, this made me remembered something and still feel a little guilty because I am agnostic and yet I prayed to something I deny to believe because I was looking for signs if he was there to help me during struggling times. My prayer worked that time but I know myself that God didn't all do the work that time for me to win, I know that luck was still involved that if I continued playing I would just end up with an empty pocket. He somehow helped me that time to overcome my greediness to continue gambling.

I would say that it's human nature though, we need to cling onto something that will change our luck and some of us calls on higher spiritual being for intervention and bring us "good luck".

So I guess everyone has this kind of mindset, I even see this so called "Gamblers players", to bring good fortune, but if they think it will help them so I can't disagree with them. We have our own beliefs here.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Dave1 on June 06, 2021, 01:25:54 AM
On the contrary, if we think that prayers is powerful, then why not pray and help us from stopping gambling?

For some society, this could be a taboo, most of gambling vices as a far as I know is forbidden by some religion. Personally, I don't do it, I'm a Christian and I don't pray or call for divine intervention to bring me winnings. I don't think it will help, to be honest. "to each his own".


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on June 06, 2021, 02:49:19 AM
This is nothing more than superstition. If praying was all it took to succeed in gambling then we'd all be rich. I don't have any specific rituals I do before gambling and I think I have better results than the average person but I am also not as successful as people who have made a fortune. It is really just a mix of luck, risk, and sometimes skill that will determine how successful you will be.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: acroman08 on June 06, 2021, 02:58:14 AM
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
As a non-religious person No. if spiritual beings influence the gambling results in favor to those who pray to them there would be more people winning. in the end, people saying that it was a god-given gift that they won a big amount in gambling is just a belief and nothing more(at least for me).


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 06, 2021, 04:50:26 AM
I have actually done this. Of course this is not actually praying to my god. This has nothing to do with my religious god. I know that my god does not intervene in very mundane stuff such as this. When I do this I am just trying to whisper to luck or to whatever powerful element out there to be on my favor. That is all actually. I know this doesn't make much sense but it is all for the good vibes. It is just like saying, "luck, please be with me today."


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Wexnident on June 06, 2021, 04:53:15 AM
No, it doesn't work. Prayers are just some sort of method to actually pacify your inner self so that you would actually believe something would end up to be worthwhile, or something would result from whatever actions you would do. It's a method to calm the self, and possibly raise confidence and whatnot, but it's purely mental. It doesn't affect real-world statistics, probabilities, chances, luck, etc at all. It's almost close to a stupid idea of connecting something both you can't control, just so that you have a justifiable reason to blame or to thank for (but mostly to blame ngl).


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: gabbie2010 on June 06, 2021, 04:56:14 AM
Gambling is a game of luck no amount of prayer would have any influence on the outcome of the result, however gamblers who imbibe in the act of praying before placing a bet do so based on their personal belief of course we have to respect their belief probably that had previously worked for them, there are also other gamblers who also prayed but still lost their bettings thus gambling is 50:50 chance it is either win or loss.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Bttzed03 on June 06, 2021, 05:03:57 AM
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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
I remember having positive thoughts when I was still buying tickets for lottery. I wouldn't say it's a prayer but I definitely did it to attract a positive result.

Did it work?
I won one time but I didn't hit all the numbers. What I won didn't cover my previous losses though.

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
This probably means the winner deserves it better. It's the same with other aspects of life I guess.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ralle14 on June 06, 2021, 05:14:13 AM
There's no solid proof that prayers can be effective on gambling, I think the only thing it does is boost the person's confidence and even if someone does win through praying it's most likely a coincidence. Imagine if prayers do actually work then we would've seen most gamblers pray most of the time and eventually casinos are forced to bump up their house edge to counteract this strategy.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 06, 2021, 05:21:39 AM
Gambling is a game of luck no amount of prayer would have any influence on the outcome of the result, however gamblers who imbibe in the act of praying before placing a bet do so based on their personal belief of course we have to respect their belief probably that had previously worked for them, there are also other gamblers who also prayed but still lost their bettings thus gambling is 50:50 chance it is either win or loss.

I think this kind of practice like reciting prayer is more on psychological feeling of the person. Though it has no effect on the results but it is how we believe on such things, like for example here, prayer that may attract positive mantra. So yes, no matter how long your prayer is or how sincere it is, I don't think this will somehow affect the results.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 06, 2021, 05:25:26 AM
I guess the spiritual not involved in gambling, but I do not for sure because their world is different from ours. Maybe they can involve influencing the result and they have been used by psychic.

I always prayed before doing something, including before playing gambling but I did not often do that because I do not expect to make money from gambling. I prefer to let it happen if that is about playing gambling because I know that winning gambling is luck.

We all worship and serve to GOD, and I think we can pray to GOD for what we want, and if that really happens, I think GOD allows us to get that. But if that does not happen, then that will not be good for us.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: lienfaye on June 06, 2021, 06:11:24 AM
Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
We cant accurately answer this because we dont know how God works, but I believe he is fair to everyone. If you win then you're lucky but it doesnt mean its because you're devoted or has a strong faith. Its not appropriate to involve the spiritual being on gambling or connect why we win.

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
I dont believe prayer can help me to win, however I also tried to pray deeply to hit the jackpot on lottery, but it doesnt work. I think its his way to let me know to not become greedy on earing money which not came from hard-work.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: semobo on June 06, 2021, 06:55:12 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Its just their belief but there is no influence of prayers with our winning when it comes to gambling just like what happens in out life. Its just to calm our mind but some people overdo it and it may worked as well coincidently so they started to follow it as habit all the time while making their bets.

Luck comes to us which can't be created with anything.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 06, 2021, 06:59:17 AM
I think it's just to bring positive thoughts for gambler that most of the time we pray in order to win.

But there's no evidence whatsoever that prayer will help us win. It just depends how lucky we are when we gambler whether online or offline. So obviously, it doesn't work, but worth a try for majority of us. At least when we won, we have someone to thank for bringing us a win, or maybe it is just a coincidence.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on June 06, 2021, 07:00:58 AM
This is about faith, we know everyone's faith is different and you don't have to assume those who pray are wrong or right, because back again about the faith you and they have and it's different. But for me personally related to gambling is purely for entertainment and although gambling I am targeted for a win and profit but I never join prayers in gambling. If they get good results in gambling because they include prayer, then I will still consider that also just luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Woodie on June 06, 2021, 07:05:06 AM
It's okay to pray before you gamble but other religions or certain dominations will say this is something evil...why because they believe this is a source of greed and greed has no place in the church!

But I guess a prayer should include asking overcoming the temptation of greed and also gaining guidance to make good decisions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: qwertyup23 on June 06, 2021, 07:07:32 AM
Remember that people do certain rituals before they engaged into something.

Personally, I used to put a nickel inside my shoe every time I present in the whole class because I believe it calms me done and it makes me more confident in speaking. Same goes to gambling, people pray every time they wish something would happen because it calms them down and it kinda rationalizes them that their actions are justified.

In a world that we live in, nothing is absolute. If all prayers were to come true, then there wouldn't be any problems in the world.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Karartma1 on June 06, 2021, 07:09:29 AM
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you'll be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."
Matthew's words are spot on for the sake of this thread. No prayers will help you winning a bet.
Don't mess with luck and chances and, most of all, leave any god out of desperate attempts to win some money.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Shasha80 on June 06, 2021, 07:23:48 AM
This is about faith, we know everyone's faith is different and you don't have to assume those who pray are wrong or right, because back again about the faith you and they have and it's different. But for me personally related to gambling is purely for entertainment and although gambling I am targeted for a win and profit but I never join prayers in gambling. If they get good results in gambling because they include prayer, then I will still consider that also just luck.

Indeed, in carrying out life we all have our own beliefs, if we believe praying before gambling can help bring luck, do it. But I never pray before
gambling, because for me gambling is just for entertainment, so indeed I play gambling not obsessed with winning. The results of the gambling
that I did either win or lose, I was still entertained.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ultegra134 on June 06, 2021, 07:25:18 AM
Gambling is a series of games of pure luck and probabilities, nothing more. On top of that, I'm an atheist and wouldn't pray even if I was in a falling plane. The nature of gambling is pretty simple and straight forward to involve any superficial beings, and it definitely won't help if you're an addict, trying to recoup your losses.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on June 06, 2021, 08:13:18 AM
Praying during or in course of playing a bet has got nothing to do with the bet even. You know, it might be seenbto draw you some luck but then, I rarely think that about the outcome of any game in sports betting.  What would be will be and your prayers our fetishism has got nothing to do with it. Everyone has got something at stake at the events being gambled upon. For sports betting,

1. You've got your stake
2. The site or platform owner has got his stakes
3. The athletes has got there stakes and
4. Your opposing fellow gambler has got his stakes too.

For Casinos,
1. The owner has got his stakes
2. You've got your stakes and
3. Depending on the game in question, your fellow gamblers has there's too.

So, the odds can't just be on your side because you know how to wisper a few words. Certainly,  there are others that can and do too. If the outcomes of bets were based on prayers, I'm sure there would be a prayer house beside every gambling shop. Lol...


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: danherbias07 on June 06, 2021, 09:42:38 AM
I don't believe that.
Is there even a God of Gambling? The God that I know hates gambling that's why I don't pray before putting my bets.
I also don't thank him when I won a bet because it's like saying he gave it for you and he loves what you are doing which is wrong.

Just put the damn bet and hope your luck will not run out and hit the winning number.  ;D Maybe praying for the devil will work as he was the true owner of this world of sins.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: 3meek on June 06, 2021, 09:47:15 AM
In my opinion this is very funny, gambling and prayer are opposite things... There is no direct mention of gambling in the Bible, but it is generally accepted that it is a sin... But if prayer helps someone win money, that's great!
If anyone knows such a mantra, please write! :) I need it too! :D


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rajamuda on June 06, 2021, 10:18:50 AM
In general, this is not supposed to be, but some people do it without realizing it ;D, sounds weird but indeed there are people who pray when gambling, it's better if we know that.. we remind them.
About this, the point is we should not experience it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: sempak on June 06, 2021, 10:28:02 AM
In general, this is not supposed to be, but some people do it without realizing it ;D, sounds weird but indeed there are people who pray when gambling, it's better if we know that.. we remind them.
About this, the point is we should not experience it.

If you are very religious and think you can benefit from that, you can always try. I'm just curious what will happen if you end up losing a lot after all. maybe next time do another prayer? otherwise it is difficult to explain. you sometimes see players on the field say a prayer, but I think that's for a different reason.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: YOSHIE on June 06, 2021, 10:32:31 AM
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
I have seen that kind of spirituality in gambling, but not in online gambling, I saw in real casinos, I don't know what they read, but I saw the person not succeeding, just losing the game, I saw he was emotional when he lost, maybe he blamed the prayer, which was not answered.

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
If I place a gambling bet at a physical casino there is no prayer, as far as I know in the world of gambling the biggest boss is the devil, so there is no need to do spirituality there, what is needed is cunning and ingenuity.

In my opinion prayer does not apply in the world of gambling, because all those involved in gambling have the same fate.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: btc78 on June 06, 2021, 10:40:29 AM


Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
This is a Total hypocrisy mate , How could their Gods let them win when the truth is gambling is prohibited by the Gods?( though i don't know in other religions but majority of what I read is that there are no place for gamblers in them)
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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
No and will never be, I still have respect for My beliefs and i will never let my Desire for money get them involved.
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If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Gambling is about Luck and God has nothing to do with it(That's what i belief and understand from what i studied my whole life)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2021, 10:55:11 AM
It's okay to pray when you are gambling, but don't expect it will help you, God may grant your wish once but if you keep gambling, you will lose on the probability as casinos are sure winners in the long run. Better be realistic all the time, not to win but to minimize your loses.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Natsuu on June 06, 2021, 10:57:19 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Prayers in betting like this is more of a personal belief and hope that they want.

People mutters words in such ways that it will make them feel at ease, and being able to "BLAME" it to something even though this are their personal choices.

Also people tend to believe in this "Gut Feel" or if it is a religious person, the "God Feel", where they put their whole trust to what ever they feels right to bet disregarding analyzation, etc.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: smyslov on June 06, 2021, 11:03:40 AM
It's ok to pray in whatever situation you are in, and in whatever place you are it's part of the character of an individual not because you are gambling you are not allowed to gamble, it's not a sin to wish and pray to win, it's just mean that whatever you do you trust God.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oasisman on June 06, 2021, 11:09:18 AM
It's ok to pray in whatever situation you are in, and in whatever place you are it's part of the character of an individual not because you are gambling you are not allowed to gamble, it's not a sin to wish and pray to win, it's just mean that whatever you do you trust God.

Well, I'm not that so religious but there was a saying "Don't involve God's name in vain." So, I guess gambling is irrelevant to pray for. Gambling is a sin (at least those were what the churches has been preaching).
However, praying before gambling doesn't change the result. Some people only done this gesture to make themselves feel a little better thinking of the risk of lossing his money.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Poker Player on June 06, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
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If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

LOL. Of course prayers don't work.

Prayers are a primitive way of relating to natural phenomena, halfway between animals and scientific thought. Those who bet and pray lose as much money as the rest, because casino games are EV- in the long term, even though in the short term they have positive results. Those who understand scientific thinking, understand what I have just said, the rest are still gambling, praying and losing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: robelneo on June 06, 2021, 01:27:38 PM
Who are we to judge? if gambling is what makes him closer to God as long as he is a responsible gambler then we must respect him, we all have our own way on how to create a relationship with God and God is not a judgemental God, I pray when I am betting in a lottery and I feel good doing this, as long as you are good at what you do there's no harm on it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Cling18 on June 06, 2021, 01:55:28 PM
If prayer works in gambling, then lots of religious people should've won the lottery already. We all know that gambling is against religious belief because they advise people to work hard rather than taking risks in gambling. I used to pray whenever I bet yet it isn't working. I don't think asking God to win in gambling is reasonable. It's still against his will.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: BuNga_cute on June 06, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
Who are we to judge? if gambling is what makes him closer to God as long as he is a responsible gambler then we must respect him, we all have our own way on how to create a relationship with God and God is not a judgemental God, I pray when I am betting in a lottery and I feel good doing this, as long as you are good at what you do there's no harm on it.

I agree with you, we should not judge others regarding their beliefs and how they communicate with the God they believe in. Because in my opinion
there should be no compulsion in worship, so if anyone thinks gambling can have a positive impact on them, just do it. As long as gambling doesn't
make them bad, there should be no problem praying before starting to gamble. Because each of us will do it with a good purpose, there's nothing
wrong with praying first before doing it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Stalker22 on June 06, 2021, 02:19:44 PM
In each culture, there are certain beliefs that influence people's behavior, many of which are regarded as unscientific. This is equally true for gamblers.
Gamblers are usually superstitious. For example, it's not uncommon for them to avoid the number 13, or aces. Similarly, it's no surprise that the colour black is considered bad luck.

The same applies to religion. Most deities in different religions possess magical abilities. Gamblers who believe in these deities may seek their help and influence the outcome of bets.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2021, 02:35:24 PM
It is okay to pray before we gamble, and for some people, that can give them the confidence to playing gambling. But sometimes, their prayer will not become a reality because playing gambling will depend on luck so if they do not have luck, they will not win and their prayer will not happen. But all in all, we need to pray, especially if we want to do something. But for gambling, we need to have the luck to win, which is out of our expectations.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Wexnident on June 06, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
Who are we to judge? if gambling is what makes him closer to God as long as he is a responsible gambler then we must respect him, we all have our own way on how to create a relationship with God and God is not a judgemental God, I pray when I am betting in a lottery and I feel good doing this, as long as you are good at what you do there's no harm on it.
No one's really judging who here (I think), but we are discussing on how "effective" praying is before gambling. Now if we just based it on statistics, numbers, hard facts and whatnot, then it does nothing. People can pray to their Gods all they want sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it would have no effect on the results of a bet. No harm indeed, but no benefit as well (in terms of the result).

Looking at it objectively, praying is just a method for people to actually explain something, akin to luck if I were to compare it. It's like asking if lucky charms actually had an effect or something.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KTChampions on June 06, 2021, 03:35:42 PM
It is okay to pray before we gamble, and for some people, that can give them the confidence to playing gambling. But sometimes, their prayer will not become a reality because playing gambling will depend on luck so if they do not have luck, they will not win and their prayer will not happen. But all in all, we need to pray, especially if we want to do something. But for gambling, we need to have the luck to win, which is out of our expectations.

Naturally, the benefits in terms of getting the result from prayer are exactly zero. But if the player is very nervous and prayer helps him to endure stress more easily, then why not. We must consider this as a kind of meditative practice that helps calm the nerves.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: rhomelmabini on June 06, 2021, 03:40:31 PM
It is okay to pray before we gamble, and for some people, that can give them the confidence to playing gambling. But sometimes, their prayer will not become a reality because playing gambling will depend on luck so if they do not have luck, they will not win and their prayer will not happen. But all in all, we need to pray, especially if we want to do something. But for gambling, we need to have the luck to win, which is out of our expectations.
I hope so that's the case but as others might say "there will be nothing to lose if you just believe". But as per mention of luck and prayer I think they are in contrast on majority of religions but we aren't talking here on that I'm just reiterating it for context. I still believe it will be luck no matter what unless it really requires startegy.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Raflesia on June 06, 2021, 04:06:21 PM
Every prayer in the activities that we do is allowed including gambling which may be believed from the gods, but for me no this will not affect the results even though we pray in my belief, so I still believe this is the absolute right of luck in every gambling game that has been becomes your right then your life will be full of luck from every gambling game, but remember that not every luck is there and unfortunately it is, so gambling has lost a lot of money, but it is difficult to recover.
I will do as necessary, there is no need for prayer in gambling games, even gambling often likes to make depression if there is no strong mentality.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: pawanjain on June 06, 2021, 04:06:28 PM
It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: fiulpro on June 06, 2021, 04:14:07 PM
People will involve spirituality wherever they find that they are in a bind and it can calm themselves down, therefore the people usually do it a lot, maybe in their minds or maybe out loud. For me I do not believe in god or religion perse, but as long as people are happy I do think there is not even any discussion on this.

My mom prays before everything literally! Everything! for everyone. Well but as long as they remember that god does not prevent them from winning and loosing. You might see people yelling at god for not giving them enough- well then it would be negative for the religious beliefs.

Gambling is prohibited in certain religions too. Therefore I would like to see if those people pray too.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Vaskiy on June 06, 2021, 04:51:51 PM
Prayer is part of everyone, even the atheist murmers something in mind when he does something. Everyone wants victory and success. Gambling isn't an exception, and people pray when they start. Later if won they'll never thank god, if lost the entire blame is on him. Even myself have did it. If you sit and think, one can understand how many chances God has given us to succeed.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Furious 7 on June 06, 2021, 05:04:46 PM
It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.
Perhaps by praying they wished the best for the bet.
But still, those who are so strong in their beliefs they will definitely do it and God bless them in their bets, hopefully luck will go down maybe that's all, but I think this is indeed a factor and destiny where gambling can produce for me is entirely luck, gambling is not a strategy game but only see if you are lucky or not when placing a gambling bet.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bitzizzix on June 06, 2021, 05:27:55 PM
If gambling is associated with God and religion in my opinion it is contradictory and if praying to God before starting to play gambling is not prohibited and will have no effect.
Gambling is just luck and skill in playing to win bets, except asking for spiritual or supernatural help and also spells which are believed to work and but do not guarantee 100% success and but that is all against God and sin.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2021, 06:18:51 PM
Naturally, the benefits in terms of getting the result from prayer are exactly zero. But if the player is very nervous and prayer helps him to endure stress more easily, then why not. We must consider this as a kind of meditative practice that helps calm the nerves.
Yes, it will help them directly or not, but it is better to pray and let it happen. Playing gambling with high tension will not be good as we can not enjoy the game and maybe lead us to lose. Hopefully, prayer before gamble can help a gambler to calm down.

I hope so that's the case but as others might say "there will be nothing to lose if you just believe". But as per mention of luck and prayer I think they are in contrast on majority of religions but we aren't talking here on that I'm just reiterating it for context. I still believe it will be luck no matter what unless it really requires startegy.
It might be against most religions, but believe it or not, some people might pray to GOD before they gamble and ask for help to win the games. We do not know how it will impact their game because they will know it later. Yes, in this matter, luck will take part to win the gambling games. The pray can help them to feel confident.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Gaaara on June 06, 2021, 06:44:37 PM
Sometimes just having the courage to place bet can be the difference between winning millions, so if you ask God for luck you wouldn't know if its just your mere luck or it is really a spiritual being intervening in your life. Basically some gamblers that thinks God help them win places a higher stakes of gambling, they are willing to take the risk more often thinking that God will create a way for them to win there's no confirming it but trying it wouldn't cost you anything but seconds of time.

By the way Chinese people likes gambling and they have so many rituals and superstition regarding to gambling and luck, even businesses they see it as gambling and places different artifacts such as waving cat and frog with coins under or Buddha sitting on coins, there is a lot of things that Chinese connects on spiritual beings and I believe whether it is really helping or not it's all about the mindset and being certain on when to bet.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 06, 2021, 07:42:43 PM
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
I don't think such practices influence the result of a game or bring more luck but I don't see a problem either. There are people with different beliefs and just because I feel that prayers don't matter doesn't mean they are wrong or I am right. I don't think these players are going to change anything, it only shows that gamblers are so desperate for the win.

There are times when I have big bets on sports and I am myself closing my eyes and praying but I know that doesn't mean much so it's just instincts more than anything and being nervous and curious are always the product of gambling. It also depends on what culture we come from and what belief system we have. I am sure almost everyone of us must have remembered our Gods at least once in some situation.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: justdimin on June 06, 2021, 08:07:44 PM
Gambling is a game of luck no amount of prayer would have any influence on the outcome of the result, however gamblers who imbibe in the act of praying before placing a bet do so based on their personal belief of course we have to respect their belief probably that had previously worked for them, there are also other gamblers who also prayed but still lost their bettings thus gambling is 50:50 chance it is either win or loss.
The chances aren't 50-50 firstly because there is always some house edge involved in betting which means you will always have lesser chances of winning than you might think you have.

Secondly, I strongly believe that if you pray for something you will have more luck achieving it, maybe that is because I am a spiritual person but I have seen that if you really want something and pray with a pure heart, you will get it. Although that doesn't mean I am suggesting or encouraging gamblers to pray for the win because that's greed rather than your need.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Quidat on June 06, 2021, 08:09:36 PM
It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.
Perhaps by praying they wished the best for the bet.
But still, those who are so strong in their beliefs they will definitely do it and God bless them in their bets, hopefully luck will go down maybe that's all, but I think this is indeed a factor and destiny where gambling can produce for me is entirely luck, gambling is not a strategy game but only see if you are lucky or not when placing a gambling bet.
This do really depends on someones belief because we do have different level when it comes to this manner on where there are really some religious and there are some which are not. Luck cant really be influenced nor forced to go down and would really be on your side no matter how hard you do pray.
Divine intervention doesnt really work on this part but since people do really make out some beliefs then let them be.Its just their own belief that prayers could really effective on changing up someones fate but the truth is that it wont really changed a thing at all and if they won then its just coincidence.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on June 06, 2021, 08:20:47 PM
There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ryker1 on June 06, 2021, 08:58:52 PM
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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Well, if you believe these spiritual things like you prayed before placing a bet, --that will not work for me.
Because in the first place, gambling is not for good spiritual worship, it is against it so I think don't involve prayer on the gambling because that will not work. Remember that God is against gambling and in the Islamic religion, this is a mortal sin from them. Just gamble and place a bet if you want and don't ask that you will win. However, this will perhaps belong to the superstitious belief and there is nothing we can argue if one of us believes you in that way before you will place your bet.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: harizen on June 06, 2021, 09:16:19 PM
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

No pun intended but is that even a question? I mean, obviously, how can be spiritual, religious or something along those lines can influence our gambling activity and experience? Those acts mean that those people are hoping for the best and no way the MAN above will spend time manipulating the result for those who pray lol.

It's common that some people are praying as part of the thinking that it will increase the chances of winning. There is no unusual to that. The same way as you pray to e.g acceptance to a job, expecting a good salary, you will now receive a YES to your girlfriend and so on.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Stalker22 on June 06, 2021, 09:34:41 PM
There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
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It really may depend on which religion you are looking at. Not all religions are against gambling. In particular, I'm thinking of polytheistic religions and religions without divine deities.
Recreational gambling, for example, is perfectly fine under Buddhist philosophy and Islam is the only major religion that opposes gambling outright. The other religions tolerate the activity to some extent.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on June 06, 2021, 09:50:04 PM
There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
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It really may depend on which religion you are looking at. Not all religions are against gambling. In particular, I'm thinking of polytheistic religions and religions without divine deities.
Recreational gambling, for example, is perfectly fine under Buddhist philosophy and Islam is the only major religion that opposes gambling outright. The other religions tolerate the activity to some extent.
I tend to think of just a few religion that's mostly with the most members and they're against gambling. But you're right that there are some religions that are agree to gambling as long as it's what on their hand book or any rule that they should follow.
I forgot about Buddhism and thanks for reminding with that info.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: goinmerry on June 06, 2021, 11:44:59 PM
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

This is too much for a discussion. We should already know that there's no such thing as a direct connection to prayers and gambling.

Both parties are praying so why should GOD will have to choose one. There is no such thing as who will be favored there. Let's debunk that idea.

Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. :)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 07, 2021, 03:01:42 AM
I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 07, 2021, 03:51:29 AM
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. :)

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lakai01 on June 07, 2021, 04:27:02 AM
No pun intended but is that even a question? I mean, obviously, how can be spiritual, religious or something along those lines can influence our gambling activity and experience? Those acts mean that those people are hoping for the best and no way the MAN above will spend time manipulating the result for those who pray lol.
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Exactly, that's exactly how I see it. People like to give away responsibility for their actions and believe that a "higher power" will control them and intervene if they believe in it strongly enough.

This can work very well in some areas of life, for example, it has been shown in studies that believing people can get through serious illnesses better (with a higher sense of well-being). In gambling, however, only one power counts: chance (exceptions like poker confirm the rule, of course).


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Luzin on June 07, 2021, 05:43:45 AM
I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

I think this is a belief that has positive suggestions for its users. For many people the habit of starting the action with prayer is something that can be trusted to make it easier. Although sometimes the path has been determined we have to try, maybe including gambling. In addition to predicting they also pray to those they believe in, even though they know it is wrong.
So I think it's their right, I will respect any differences. They have a culture and routine that does not harm us.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 07, 2021, 05:54:43 AM
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. :)

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
If that so, only GOD will know and that gambler will see what is the result. Of course, that can make a gambler will sad if they lose and vice versa. That will happen in gambling, and even we both pray together with one purpose to win, which will depend on our luck. So we need to think twice about luck and we can still pray before we gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: newwest on June 07, 2021, 05:58:40 AM
I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

Their is no scientific way at present which proves that prayer does not have any connection with gambling or even otherwise. So it is belief of each individual that drives them to pray or not. If for someone if they think it does make difference then better for them because in the end well being of each one either financially or health wise etc is the utmost important. So let things continue if it is bringing good results in the end.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Goodluckmate.com on June 07, 2021, 08:26:12 AM
Well, speaking as someone who has been working in the industry and understands how outcomes work, I can't say that prayers work. In online casinos, there's the Random Number Generator. Its only function is to give random outcomes. One may pray for a 26 on online roulette or I don't know, for a winning or bonus round on slots. The chances for it to happen with or without prayers are the same. Random Number Generators are machines that don't care about anything else and aren't influenced by anything else (unless rigged, but that's another story and very unlikely at reputable casinos).

Even as a religious person, I also don't mix gambling and praying. I've always believed that praying is for special occasions and 'big' things like good health, surviving through especially hard times, etc. Sure, even in my career I'd find myself hoping that I'll be especially lucky and successful. But I generally believe that most things in life depend on my actions as a person and I wouldn't want to bother God with trivial things.

Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  :D


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: swogerino on June 07, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
Pray all you want but that does not mean anything.If a bet is meant to be a win it will be a win and if it is not meant to be a win it will not be a win.Those guys who you see just lie to themselves and in a psychological way it makes them feel better while they are waiting for the outcome of their bets.I am sure that when their bet is lost their psychological status will be the sadness everyone feels when they lose a bet.Prayer has nothing to do with gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 07, 2021, 10:40:28 AM
Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  :D
That is what we will say if we can achieve a good result. But we might say, "Oh, damn, it should not happen to me ;D

Praying can give a positive feeling to someone and that increase confidence. But gambling is at a grey side of our life, so when we pray, we ask GOD help to help us win the game. Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose. We can let people pray or do whatever they like to win the games.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 07, 2021, 11:26:08 AM
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I think this is a belief that has positive suggestions for its users. For many people the habit of starting the action with prayer is something that can be trusted to make it easier. Although sometimes the path has been determined we have to try, maybe including gambling. In addition to predicting they also pray to those they believe in, even though they know it is wrong.
So I think it's their right, I will respect any differences. They have a culture and routine that does not harm us.
How does praying help you though? Pretty sure that the guy upstairs is too busy doing something and I don't think that he or she is considering gambling as a virtue. Pretty sure that people who pray in gambling are just desperate and they want to hold on to something that will move the blame away from them.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Karartma1 on June 07, 2021, 11:30:05 AM
Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  :D
That is what we will say if we can achieve a good result. But we might say, "Oh, damn, it should not happen to me ;D

Praying can give a positive feeling to someone and that increase confidence. But gambling is at a grey side of our life, so when we pray, we ask GOD help to help us win the game. Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose. We can let people pray or do whatever they like to win the games.
That's a better approach, better always be thankful for basically anything that happens, also because anything can happen! Therefore, yes, keep praying if you really have to but don't forget that the outcomes of your bet are prayers-independent.
"Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose" that's delusional, sorry ;)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AakZaki on June 07, 2021, 11:58:48 AM
In general, this is not supposed to be, but some people do it without realizing it ;D, sounds weird but indeed there are people who pray when gambling, it's better if we know that.. we remind them.
About this, the point is we should not experience it.
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 07, 2021, 12:20:01 PM
In general, this is not supposed to be, but some people do it without realizing it ;D, sounds weird but indeed there are people who pray when gambling, it's better if we know that.. we remind them.
About this, the point is we should not experience it.
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.
^ Can we laugh at this?  ;D
I remember my friend before when we are at the casino, every time he places a bet, he made a sign of a cross on his self. One day I asked, he said just to have luck, so if you believe in your prayer, probably it will boost confidence and increase your chances of winning but overall, it will not give a guarantee that you will win and also give a good result in gambling. We know that gambling is based on luck but probably prayer will contribute a little but not much. However, there is nothing to lose with you if you will try to pray before you will gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: wheelz1200 on June 07, 2021, 12:29:19 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Lol I don't think that's how religion works buddy.

"Please god let me cover the 4.5 point spread for the Nets tonight and make sure the game hits the over at 230pts."  "Thank you god" 😂

Betting is complete luck plain and simple no higher powers involved.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AicecreaME on June 07, 2021, 12:57:50 PM
If you believe in religion, then I assume you believe in God and devil existence.

Now, from whatever religion you are at right now, Bible prohibited gambling, because it's a sin. Now, if you win in gambling because you prayed before betting, then it's not a blessing from God, but a blessing from the devil, because that's what the devil wants, for us to do things that are prohibited from the Bible. It's a win win situation for the devil for him to have more companions when the judgment day comes.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 07, 2021, 12:59:34 PM
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.

They do their habits because they feel less comfortable without it, so after doing it they become confident when they make bets. There are even times when they lose, they will blame themselves for forgetting to do their habits (praying, rituals, and etc) before gambling. Some people even believe that sitting position will affect their luck when gambling (like some Javanese who still believe in Primbon  ;D).

For me, gambling is very closely related to luck. If we are not lucky then we will most likely lose, but if we're lucky then we will get income (of course we have to know when to stop).


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Furious 7 on June 07, 2021, 01:06:55 PM
Actually I want to laugh, but whatever you do of course have hope. For those who believe in praying, whatever they do will begin with prayer. I think this will convince you although it won't be a major factor with the results. Some of my friends still do it even though he knows it's against the rules he believes in. So he believed even though he knew he might be wrong.
They do their habits because they feel less comfortable without it, so after doing it they become confident when they make bets. There are even times when they lose, they will blame themselves for forgetting to do their habits (praying, rituals, and etc) before gambling. Some people even believe that sitting position will affect their luck when gambling (like some Javanese who still believe in Primbon  ;D).

For me, gambling is very closely related to luck. If we are not lucky then we will most likely lose, but if we're lucky then we will get income (of course we have to know when to stop).
This habit is contrary to our beliefs, they even use it so that there will be miracles for luck in betting. Even though the facts are different and this has nothing to do with prayer IMO.

Indeed, that belief is strong, I am exactly what I saw with my friend, he really believes in a seat that gives luck, even though if you think about it, there is no difference and when you are lucky in any seat, you will win if it is right.
Well, humans always have a ritual method that they believe will bring themselves luckier with their behavior.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 07, 2021, 01:26:21 PM
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. :)

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
If that so, only GOD will know and that gambler will see what is the result. Of course, that can make a gambler will sad if they lose and vice versa. That will happen in gambling, and even we both pray together with one purpose to win, which will depend on our luck. So we need to think twice about luck and we can still pray before we gamble.

You can pray all you want but only one thing is certain: the result of the game, lottery, or whatever it is you are betting on is not in any way affected by your prayers. You can offer all kinds of prayers before you gamble but that will never ever dictate whether you will end up winning or losing.

The best thing to do before you gamble is to make sure you know how much you are willing to lose, how much time will you be spending on it, and perhaps some analysis depending on the kind of gambling you will be playing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: lienfaye on June 07, 2021, 01:38:23 PM
You can pray all you want but only one thing is certain: the result of the game, lottery, or whatever it is you are betting on is not in any way affected by your prayers. You can offer all kinds of prayers before you gamble but that will never ever dictate whether you will end up winning or losing.
Indeed, prayer doesnt affect the result of the game. So either win or lose, the outcome depends of what destined to happen and not due to our religious belief or what can prayer do in times like this. I think its not right to connect God to this kind of deed, gambling is a kind of game with unpredicted result so winning means you're lucky on that particular moment and not because God gave what we desire.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: iv4n on June 07, 2021, 01:46:20 PM
If your pray before every bet I guess you will learn that prayers will work sometimes, and sometimes not... more or less from the prayer, a lot more from the game you chose to play, and odds you are chasing! So if you are praying before every bet at x10 or higher, I think only 1 prayer in hundreds of bets will work! Maybe it would be better to chase lower odds, at least praying will work a lot more...

Superstition is everywhere! I don't think praying or anything similar can help in gambling, but people have the right to hope and to believe in what they want!


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fredomago on June 07, 2021, 07:53:56 PM

Superstition is everywhere! I don't think praying or anything similar can help in gambling, but people have the right to hope and to believe in what they want!

Superstition are everywhere and each gamblers have their own beliefs, they are thinking that with the help of this kind of mentalities they are adding good chance to win with every prayers or any rituals that they are performing.

We can't blame those who are doing this, as even there's no proven explanation within this practices some are claiming that they are benefiting from doing it.

Everyone are free and if it's helping them then so be it. continue to believer there's nothing wrong as long as you are  using your own money while gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Viscore on June 07, 2021, 08:29:17 PM
At the end of the day, what matters is the result, if it's effective that you'll pray every time you gamble, then do it. God can provide you with anything you want as long as it's necessary and it's time, of course, we have different beliefs so we are free to do what we want, casinos would only care that you have to pay the play, and just do whatever you want.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Mahanton on June 07, 2021, 08:52:47 PM
At the end of the day, what matters is the result, if it's effective that you'll pray every time you gamble, then do it. God can provide you with anything you want as long as it's necessary and it's time, of course, we have different beliefs so we are free to do what we want, casinos would only care that you have to pay the play, and just do whatever you want.
People would surely sticks out on something on where they do sees that it do works into their gambling activity and you are right that if praying is something do works for you then stick to it and dont mind on what others been saying because luck isnt something can be controlled upon no matter how hard you do pray because outcome do really matter most and you would be saying if its working when you do hit some pots but if not then
you would just find out that praying is irrelevant and this is really on someones take neither they do believe into something.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 07, 2021, 10:41:40 PM
It may be one of the habits of individual preferences before playing. However, it works or not, we cannot determine it.
In my religion itself, everything should be started by praying because it is trusted to make all activities better and blessed.
However, gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden?  ;D
I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on June 07, 2021, 10:53:13 PM
At the end of the day, what matters is the result, if it's effective that you'll pray every time you gamble, then do it. God can provide you with anything you want as long as it's necessary and it's time, of course, we have different beliefs so we are free to do what we want, casinos would only care that you have to pay the play, and just do whatever you want.
Just like the others who did rituals before betting.

It is not an issue if a gambler prays for his wins. Whether his prayers will be answered or not, I agree that it's still the results that will matter. Activities that can be against to the belief, it depends to the person who believes on what he do.

Still, it's gambling, a game of strategies and probabilities.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: virasisog on June 07, 2021, 11:33:38 PM
Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: molsewid on June 08, 2021, 12:50:38 AM
It may be one of the habits of individual preferences before playing. However, it works or not, we cannot determine it.
In my religion itself, everything should be started by praying because it is trusted to make all activities better and blessed.

I bet prayer is the thing that everyone were used to do before to start their daily activities, it's already a habit for many of us especially to a person or in a country which is religiously oriented and practices religious tradition in their daily activities.

However, gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden?  ;D
I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.

Also, I don't think so if there's a religion that allows their fellow members to gamble, I guess all type of religion forbidden gambling but yeah, it's all up to a person or to a religious member coz at the end of the day it's a person's choice of what he'll gonna do even if it's forbidden.
But the habits of praying before gambling seems to be practiced and some of us thinks it is worked which of course I'm not that sure.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on June 08, 2021, 01:22:52 AM
Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.
Yes, I also consider it a normal thing, because each individual's faith is different. Maybe for those of us who have different faiths when we see people praying before gambling is something strange, but what is the judgment about the opposite when people who pray see other people who do not pray? They have their own views about religion and whatever faith they believe in, so yeah there's nothing wrong with that as long as they don't harm other people then of course it's fine, right?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: yazher on June 08, 2021, 01:51:50 AM
Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.

I think when they pray that's the last thing they have and they will about to bet the last money they got on their account. In our religion, gambling is prohibited due to the problem that it will lead to which is addiction or mental illness. There are some benefits but the harm is too much to handle by any person. that's why it was not permitted from the beginning, the prayer will not do any changes since people are prohibited from the beginning. but in the other religious belief, they will let it slide because for them the harm and the benefits are somehow in the middle which is 50/50. No matter where you go, those who believe in religion or not, they do believe that gambling brings harm due to the thing that it will lead to.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 08, 2021, 02:06:13 AM
You can pray all you want but only one thing is certain: the result of the game, lottery, or whatever it is you are betting on is not in any way affected by your prayers. You can offer all kinds of prayers before you gamble but that will never ever dictate whether you will end up winning or losing.
Indeed, prayer doesnt affect the result of the game. So either win or lose, the outcome depends of what destined to happen and not due to our religious belief or what can prayer do in times like this. I think its not right to connect God to this kind of deed, gambling is a kind of game with unpredicted result so winning means you're lucky on that particular moment and not because God gave what we desire.

I have this idea. If ever you cannot avoid offering a prayer before gambling, you better pray for guidance that if ever you lose you will not chase it until your loss is becoming so huge. You should pray that somebody up there will grant you patience, self-discipline, and the will that you can say enough, stand up, and leave the casino before things will get worse.

Whatever happens to the games mainly depend on luck. Whatever happens to you depends on you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Chato1977 on June 08, 2021, 02:41:39 AM
It may be one of the habits of individual preferences before playing. However, it works or not, we cannot determine it.
In my religion itself, everything should be started by praying because it is trusted to make all activities better and blessed.
However, gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden?  ;D
I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.

Some are doing this but i doubt that it is helpful . because I know that Prayers will not Help people that letting  their Wrong doings .
Good will not effective in bad things. same us bad things towards good thing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: famososMuertos on June 08, 2021, 02:55:34 AM
Really!!
You changed religion to pray, I suppose with the intention of evadior post similar that I have seen raising similar issues.

If someone believes in something, in God, no matter what religion, they will not bother to bring up an inconsistent topic, it is really unwise, gambling does not depend on beliefs, nobody wins the lottery because they believe in God or pray to him more than other people, that shows ignorance.

A good believer does not walk with doubts in the result of his prayers, in religion he believes it or not, anything else does not make you a bad person, but if a player does not believe in God when he plays it does not mean that is the cause of your bad luck ... or good luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 08, 2021, 07:20:37 AM
It may be one of the habits of individual preferences before playing. However, it works or not, we cannot determine it.
In my religion itself, everything should be started by praying because it is trusted to make all activities better and blessed.
However, gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden?  ;D
I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.

Some are doing this but i doubt that it is helpful . because I know that Prayers will not Help people that letting  their Wrong doings .
Good will not effective in bad things. same us bad things towards good thing.
So that could be related to our destine because if we pray and our destine is winning the jackpot or some money, we will get it. Yes, prayers will protect us from doing something wrong, and we should always pray before we do something. But I do not know about gambling. Maybe some people still doing that before they gamble. So that will depend on themselves.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Obito on June 08, 2021, 07:26:36 AM
Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.
Agreed, just because you don't believe that it will work doesn't warrant you to say that it is foolish of the other people to do it, live your life and let others live their life, that's the secret to happiness and contentment.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 08, 2021, 07:55:37 AM
If prayers are working or at least increase your chances in winning then we must see more winners than losers in gambling right now.
All of us can pray. All of us can at least pray before we gamble yes but the chances of us winning will still the same. Prayers will not increase your chances of winning.

Probably there are some gamblers who have their own beliefs and traditions or at least some things that they are doing before they gamble but most aren't have or at least they aren't praying before gambling :D.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Smartprofit on June 08, 2021, 08:54:44 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

The Bible says that a person must work hard to get his daily bread.  

The Lord can answer your prayer.  This cannot be ruled out.  However, gambling is (in my opinion) not a godly business.  In my opinion, gambling should be viewed simply as entertainment.  Prayer is serious business.  

Usually believers pray for other people (not for themselves).  

Moreover, the Lord God neither encourages nor approves of human vices. Passion and greed are more human vices than human dignity.  

Therefore, in this case, in my opinion, there is no need to pray to God.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 08, 2021, 09:15:24 AM
Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a  Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Karartma1 on June 08, 2021, 10:33:34 AM
I remember that in the Latin American religious and magical tradition prayers to get lucky in gambling and to attract money fast was quite common, due to the fact that St. Expedito is the patron saint of fast actions: all those issues that require quick action.
So the patron saint of those who need quick solutions to their problems, this is the perfect saint to invoke when you need to improve your luck at the game using rituals to attract money and you decide to use a prayer to get lucky at the game.
People used to wear a medal or amulet of San Expedito around the neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep the saint's powers close.

I know this sounds crazy but people believe in all sort of crazy things.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: cabalism13 on June 08, 2021, 11:55:43 AM
Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a  Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .
that's really a bad one fella, afaik gambling is one of the bad habits we humans keeps on doing, and I don't think (if ever God really exist) someone will listen to you to give you the blessings. (they just might say *fuck off and get you prayer somewhere else* ) lol


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oasisman on June 08, 2021, 12:03:31 PM
Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a  Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .

What a crazy thought. Lemme guess, he's praying to Saint Peter or "San Pedro". The statue saint who was holding a roster in the catholic churches.
There is no religion that encourages to engage in gambling worse praying for your luck before engaging into it.
That actually is not insult your beliefs/religion.

I'd rather appreciate a person who'll pray for his own beliefs on gambling Gods  like the pagan did  ;D


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 08, 2021, 12:15:17 PM
that's really a bad one fella, afaik gambling is one of the bad habits we humans keeps on doing, and I don't think (if ever God really exist) someone will listen to you to give you the blessings. (they just might say *fuck off and get you prayer somewhere else* ) lol
Also, if there is really a God, I am sure that he or she is too busy answering the much more important prayers, praying because you want to win in gambling is a pretty stupid thing because it is a selfish thing to only ask for some invisible entity of something that only you can be efit from.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Jackl87 on June 08, 2021, 12:28:46 PM

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?


I don't want to question or ridicule anyone's religious views in any way, but I'm 99.99% sure that it doesn't make a difference whether you pray before a round of gambling or not. I think for many who do it, it's more of a ritual to make themselves feel better and they don't really believe that their prayers will lead to a better outcome because they are answered by some being.
As you say, the scenario you describe is also a kind of paradox, because if each of the opponents prays to the same God, it should cancel each other out in the end.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 08, 2021, 01:34:48 PM
Well that is a very good habit that you are thanking GOD. because people only tend to complain to god but never thank them when they achieve some thing. But yes you can not pray the god for a win in gambling  :P
Yes, because I feel that GOD always helps me anytime, especially if I have trouble or a problem. I can not stand until now if GOD does not care for me. Only thanks to GOD that I can do to feel grateful. I do not have to pray the GOD for a win in gambling ;D

That's a better approach, better always be thankful for basically anything that happens, also because anything can happen! Therefore, yes, keep praying if you really have to but don't forget that the outcomes of your bet are prayers-independent.
"Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose" that's delusional, sorry ;)
I will still pray in any condition and situation. I do not think much about winning or losing in gambling because that will consider the luck that I can not predict. At least, praying in any situation will help me have patience and calm down and help me think.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 08, 2021, 05:52:59 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
While everyone is free to believe what they choose to do so this is nothing more but a superstition, it is known that gamblers have all kind of rituals and lucky objects that they do or use in order to try to improve their luck, for example it is not rare to see people holding a lucky charm when they gamble since they won a big prize when they were holding such object, and if the hold that object 100% of the time then it is obvious they will win again when they have it and they will attribute their success to the object when it was just a matter of time this happened.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fatunad on June 08, 2021, 07:36:47 PM
Actually there is a friend of mine that has this attitude , He goes to churches consecutively days before he goes to a Cockfighting Derbies , he has this some called beliefs of saying prayers for the saints he believes a  Patron of the fighting cock .
I hate to believe but sometimes he wins and sometimes losses, meaning in the end of it all it is Luck that gives him the win .
that's really a bad one fella, afaik gambling is one of the bad habits we humans keeps on doing, and I don't think (if ever God really exist) someone will listen to you to give you the blessings. (they just might say *fuck off and get you prayer somewhere else* ) lol
On most religions out there would really see gambling as a bad thing or been prohibited and with that alone you can tell that praying into something wouldn't really be relevant specially with gambling.No God would really be giving out some luck for you in order to win.I do believe in God but im not really praying up for something which shouldn't really be prayed on but there are still people whom do really believe that praying can really give them out those kind of high chance of winning.
I cant blame them though but sooner or later they would really realize that it wasn't that really effective because results in gambling is always random.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: acener on June 08, 2021, 10:28:23 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
I would be honest here I also pray sometimes back when I was gambling but not to the point that I would question it or compare to whom it would favour.
It all depends on the player I don't think that it is a good idea to use God in gambling then when you lost that round would you question God why you didn't win?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 08, 2021, 11:28:58 PM
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That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.

-snip-
Hahaha, so, that is the point.
We also don't know whether he wins or losses is because of his prayer or not, or his luck, or his own strategies.
 ;)



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 08, 2021, 11:45:46 PM
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That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.
We have so many belief when it comes to religion, some prohibit you from gambling and some players are praying that he won on gambling and I'm also guilty on this one especially when I needed to win. It's ok to pray as long as you don't expect too much because gambling is still depend on our luck and I don't know if praying for gambling is bad or not because its money and money consider as the root of evil.
There are even people who do blame God when they do lost and blame out that their prayers hadnt been heard which is totally insane for someone to rely that much towards their gambling activity.

Its true that there are even religions that do prohibit gambling but still people do play despite of such restriction.Some is way too hopeful which do result into praying into God that they would be lucky while they do play.

It right that we shouldnt really be relying on these things because we are the ones who do make our own fate towards on things that we've been dealing with and God has nothing to do with our own self will.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: imstillthebest on June 09, 2021, 07:00:22 AM
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
why bets need to be opposite ? bets should be the same too for us to know if this would work in other gamblers but if bets are opposite ( one bets on high odds and the other is in lower odds ) god will favour the bettor that bet in lower odds but only if that bettor have done a good deed because thats how it works .
 you will get good blessing if you do something good


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: TheGreatPython on June 09, 2021, 10:42:00 AM
gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden? 
I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.
If gambling is forbidden in your religion you probably cannot look towards heaven for luck ;D because they already warned you against it. Jokes apart, I don't think praying works for anyone and if one feels it does, they are just fooling themselves. Imagine two different people praying for their bets and they have different players so who is gonna win? The one whose prayers are stronger? Doesn't make sense.

Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.
There is nothing wrong with eating pizza before gambling either but you should not satisfy yourself by telling that God is on my side today just because I have done a particular action. It brings overconfidence and later remorse.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: zanezane on June 09, 2021, 10:55:13 AM
That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.
Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on June 09, 2021, 11:26:28 AM
Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.
Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AicecreaME on June 09, 2021, 11:58:14 AM
That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling.
And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.
Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.

Exactly.

Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: zanezane on June 09, 2021, 12:11:24 PM
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Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.
Don't rely too much on luck because there's no such thing as luck, it's just a fancy word for statistics and probability. There is no luck, you were just at the right place when the chips landed.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: aioc on June 09, 2021, 02:02:02 PM
I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 09, 2021, 02:04:26 PM
Exactly.

Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.
Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us. We can not complain about the result if we are losing the money after we pray and because maybe that is the best thing that we should have. If we win, but we will get something worst, that will be good for us. So GOD makes us lose the money and not allow us to win. But on the other days, we can win the games.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: mu_enrico on June 09, 2021, 02:14:06 PM
you were just at the right place when the chips landed.
It's called luck ;D

Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us.
Which God? Dice God? ;D



Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on June 09, 2021, 08:12:03 PM
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Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.
Don't rely too much on luck because there's no such thing as luck, it's just a fancy word for statistics and probability. There is no luck, you were just at the right place when the chips landed.
No such thing?

Well, there is. If you've been playing all of those luck based games. There is stats and probabilities on those games but it's on the side of the operator.

But being as a player, there's a thing that we call luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: milewilda on June 09, 2021, 08:23:47 PM
I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.

It won't harm you as they are the one who's performing it, those people who are still believing in this practice the see something that we don't, let them enjoy and bank it.

Who knows if that's working or not, as long as they are believing that the prayer that they are doing will help them to win, we do have our
own ways in believing to find our luck!
Luck is all we need and we know that this is something that cant really be attained through something even if we do tend to pray hard for us to win. Luck doesnt come if we wanted to but rather it do goes in random ways and this is why no matter how hard you do pray it wouldnt really matter at all.It is just a belief on where people do make it as a habit believing that they could be lucky once they do pray on but honestly luck chances cant neither be affected
on things of this world. Probabilities or possibilities will always matter and that should people to think of.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Tumanggor on June 10, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
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I'm not a devout religious believer, it's just that I also don't believe that God will bless those who play gambling
If God has to bless all gamblers, then how much must he make to win?

praying when buying the lottery, placing bets or playing slots is ridiculous to me
I would never want to do that, even I won the lottery several times when I didn't pray


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 10, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
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I'm not a devout religious believer, it's just that I also don't believe that God will bless those who play gambling
If God has to bless all gamblers, then how much must he make to win?

praying when buying the lottery, placing bets or playing slots is ridiculous to me
I would never want to do that, even I won the lottery several times when I didn't pray
^ That is the fact in here if you believe in God and read the Bible. It was clearly said there God has hated gambling activities.
You can read these verses of the Bible why God hates gambling, (Hebrews 13:5, and Exodus 20:17) it has a parable that gambling shows a lack of contentment and in (Proverbs 29:7; Psalm 41:1) can exploit poor people with the hope of get-quick rich scheme. So if you don't believe in these, don't pray while you are gambling, just gamble and hope there is luck. There is nothing that will happen even if your whole family member will pray for you and hope that you will win. Imagine, in the lottery, for one person to win, other people must lose.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Sled on June 10, 2021, 01:01:50 PM
We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 10, 2021, 01:27:09 PM
We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.

Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: coin-investor on June 10, 2021, 02:04:42 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

God may not interfere and let the game do it's on course, not all prayers are heard, it's just a way for gamblers to make themselves believe that the bet is in favor of them, some gamblers do have this habit and they accept the results win or lose, we should let other gamblers do their ritual if that what they think will favor them.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: carlisle1 on June 10, 2021, 02:44:51 PM

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

God may not interfere and let the game do it's on course, not all prayers are heard, it's just a way for gamblers to make themselves believe that the bet is in favor of them, some gamblers do have this habit and they accept the results win or lose, we should let other gamblers do their ritual if that what they think will favor them.

Agree to that, those rituals are for people who believes in it, there are gamblers who continue
to believe that if they continue praying there might be an impact to their gambling habits.

When they win the mindsets gives them the believes that it was an answer prayer for them, though
I'm not believing in such kind but I respect those people.

Let them do whatever they've think that will help their chance to win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Renampun on June 10, 2021, 03:32:35 PM
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Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.
surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck...

I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: adzino on June 10, 2021, 03:56:35 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Lol no. Praying doesn't change your odds of winning a bet. And no, "spiritual beings" does not get involved or influence your gambling outcome. I guess the people you saw that were "praying" were not actually praying? They were just "hoping" and "wishing" that the next bet is a win. Like you know, how you mutter to yourself "please be a winning bet, please please". Something like this.
If praying would change your bet outcome, casinos would go bankrupt.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fortify on June 10, 2021, 04:24:42 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

You might as well chuck a coin in a "lucky" water fountain or throw some salt over your shoulder, as making a prayer is a predictable yet meaningless waste of time. It is reserved for people who do not want to appreciate the simple mathematical odds that are inherent in almost every bet accepted by another party. Bookmakers for example were not made into huge companies by paying out a lot of winning bets, they make large profits because they analyse odds and statistics which over time will give them a useful picture of outcomes. The irony with praying is greed being heavily frowned upon in religious texts yet these people are usually looking for self enrichment above all others. It never worked, it is just a coincidence if you happen to select the correct outcome which will be formed by a certain chain of events.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: worle1bm on June 10, 2021, 04:50:12 PM
We have some spiritual or religious connection with God we beleive in although they all are one and we do have a beleif that we all pray before doing anything so as it goes in our favor and gambling is mostly luck based so prayers are more often done in these uncertain moments.I have also prayed in my mind that god please the number on the roulette is same on which I have placed bet.So for me yes I do before gambling.The other fact is that once we win our belief increases over more and we make it our gambling routine.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KTChampions on June 10, 2021, 05:34:41 PM
We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.

Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.

An interesting point of view and I agree when it comes to betting on the outcomes of sports events. I do not believe that you can beat a bookie over the long run, but it can be done in some cases. If we are talking about slots or dice, then it all depends on luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dothebeats on June 10, 2021, 05:52:18 PM
This is more of a customary belief rather than having actual effect on the bet. Until one can prove that divine intervention is true—and with it, divine beings capable of controlling fate and destiny as we know it (lol)—no one can really say that praying helps. Although it helps on easing some people's minds and feeling about a certain bet, that's for sure. I'm yet to see a bet that is influenced by divine beings that is recorded and has substantial evidence to support that it is what happened indeed.

I'll leave it to the theists and religious people to do their praying before betting, but for me praying does not help in any way aside from helping you feel okay.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 10, 2021, 06:01:39 PM
Which God? Dice God? ;D
Hahaha, it could be ;D

Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.
Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.

surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck...

I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.
Maybe that will look strange for us but that is really happened in common in many places. They only think that by praying, they can win some money. But some people will not pray before playing gambling because they think that is not necessary. Besides that, gambling is only for fun and not for making money.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 10, 2021, 06:43:04 PM
Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post  ;D ;D Oh god, does my god exist in gambling  ;D ;D No god can save your life when you are a gambler  ;D ;D

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect  :-\


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Smartvirus on June 10, 2021, 06:54:11 PM
The belief that the supernatural has got everything to do with the natural is the brains behind the thought that, prayers could actually influence the result in a bet. As far as I can tell, it doesn't matter the words you mutter to yourself or some unseen supernatural. In a game, its always going to be about the game and the moment. The outcomes that plays out is about the mistakes and who uses the errors for an opportunity at that point, especially in sports betting.

In cause of board games like poker and blackjack, its more about experience and the readings. You make use of all you can get for the game. God or supernatural aren't unfair and as such, getting involved with the games would be creating an imbalance in the odds.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Hamphser on June 10, 2021, 07:21:53 PM
Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post  ;D ;D Oh god, does my god exist in gambling  ;D ;D No god can save your life when you are a gambler  ;D ;D

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect  :-\
Funny or not it cant really be stopped because there are people whom do really believe that divine intervention could really make out some impact or not and its none of our business if they do hardly believe on that.

Believing in God when you are doing gambling doesnt really mean that they dont have respect on it nor very bad because we do respect it on the way that it could really affect someones luck into their gambling activity.

Its true that it doesnt really work that way but if people do have these kind of beliefs then lets just respect it and let them be on what they do believe on.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ChuckBuck on June 10, 2021, 08:11:30 PM
Believing in God when you are doing gambling doesnt really mean that they dont have respect on it nor very bad because we do respect it on the way that it could really affect someones luck into their gambling activity.
No no, you misunderstood the meaning of my statement  :D I'm talking about religions that forbid their followers from gambling, and if those believers still gamble, that means they don't respect their own religion. It is different from what you are thinking  :D

Its true that it doesnt really work that way but if people do have these kind of beliefs then lets just respect it and let them be on what they do believe on.
Well, of course, I'm just saying that God can't help you with gambling, but the truth is that God is in everyone's beliefs, depending on their judgment.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ReiMomo on June 10, 2021, 08:39:25 PM
Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post  ;D ;D Oh god, does my god exist in gambling  ;D ;D No god can save your life when you are a gambler  ;D ;D
Lol, that was exactly what I say.

There's no God in gambling and prayer does not exist in gambling since most of us think that gambling is a sin but yet we still gamble.
If you gamble in the first place, you didn't believe God, so what is the reason for praying first before you gamble, God will hear your prayers for sure because in any religion gambling is a mortal sin in the eyes of God.

If you still praying before gambling, that is your belief and no one will stop you in that way, but don't spect too much there is a result of your prayer and the last one, don't blame God why you lose thousands of dollars in gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Japinat on June 10, 2021, 09:00:21 PM
don't blame God why you lose thousands of dollars in gambling.

The most important thing we have to put in our mind, God will approve what He thinks is good for you, if gambling is not, He will not give it to you. So just don't expect too much, because prayer will not help you win every day since luck does not come on a daily basis.

Be smart and realistic, just improve the strategy, continue to work hard until you find consistency in winning, regardless of what game you are into.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 11, 2021, 07:54:38 AM
Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post  ;D ;D Oh god, does my god exist in gambling  ;D ;D No god can save your life when you are a gambler  ;D ;D
As @mu_enrico said, that is a Dice God that will help us to win, so we should pray to our Dice God ;D ;D

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect  :-\
Mmm, I think they respect their religion, but they are playing gambling in one circumstance, and I think that is because of the "make money."

But I still believe that many of them still believe that they do not have to make money from gambling because they can search for another way to make money. They will stay away from playing gambling because that is prohibited in their religion.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: delfastTions on June 11, 2021, 08:07:06 AM
What an interesting topic opened by OP! 
Moltva or whispering spells or belief in omens before or after a person has made a bet is of course a way of influencing oneself.  Having carried out the ritual, a person subconsciously and partially shifts the blame for a possible loss to higher powers.  And this of course can calm him down in the future.  I have a good attitude to such rituals, but I also cannot help but note that in addition to self-complacency of a person, there may be some kind of influence of these higher forces.  The main thing is that you believe in them.  And then they can help.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 11, 2021, 09:09:31 AM
Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. :D

Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 11, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.
Coincidence and luck.

That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.
Quite honestly this would be incredibly easy to find out if people were systematic in their approach, for example if people kept a record of each bet and whether they prayed or not before each one then we could use statistical analysis to tell if praying had any effect on your gambling results, it is to be expected that when you did not prayed the results you will get will align with the probabilities of the games, and if when you prayed you still got those kind of results then this means that your wins when you prayed were nothing but a coincidence.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Peanutswar on June 11, 2021, 03:56:23 PM
Well don't believe praising some rituals makes do something to win a gamble because it's all about luck this is the reason why some of the people bought and bring their lucky charm. It looks like you become dependent on your believes and prayer but you are doing a risk and chance to lose part of your life.

Well in some parts we cannot remove their beliefs and norms it's better to respect their thoughts to prevent getting issues from different perspectives.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on June 11, 2021, 04:27:26 PM
Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. :D

Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.
But there was nothing wrong with that, because even when he prayed the result was still very possible to lose, right?
So it's just a matter of faith and I think as long as they can be comfortable doing that and don't interfere with the comfort of other gamblers, then it's still totally acceptable compared to gambling and stealing, then it's certainly better to gamble and pray.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 11, 2021, 04:47:04 PM
Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. :D

Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.
But there was nothing wrong with that, because even when he prayed the result was still very possible to lose, right?
So it's just a matter of faith and I think as long as they can be comfortable doing that and don't interfere with the comfort of other gamblers, then it's still totally acceptable compared to gambling and stealing, then it's certainly better to gamble and pray.
We do have our own ways and beliefs and you are right that it would be much better if we do just let them be and respect on what they do believe.

Prayer is something we can say that wont really work when attached to gambling because this is a game of chance on where luck would be the most important thing of all.

If someone do pray for him to be lucky or pray then he do really believe that God could help him but when they do lost then for sure they will
realize up things but if they won then they would believe that it do really works.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: pinggoki on June 11, 2021, 04:58:01 PM
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Obviously, I will answer it as a big NO! Spiritual beings don't have any control over the gambling that we are playing and why would we pray? Praying is sacred and what we are doing is abiding by the sacred rule of the church. If we are gambling don't pray because it is more likely you are doing a sin just because you are gambling always remember that in the book of the Bible there's no such thing as saying gambling is good nor bad. Another thing is that stop praising rituals when you are gambling because even them cannot help you with your betting.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Slow death on June 11, 2021, 07:56:26 PM
Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. :D

Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.

despair leads people to commit crazy things or to look for something that gives them hope and optimism and most of the time they look for god to give them luck, but they don't think that gambling has science involved, it was created by people using scientific knowledge and there is nothing supernatural, then if there are hundreds of people praying to god for luck, then how would god choose someone and abandon others? it does not make sense. That's why I don't involve religion in gambling

Obviously, I will answer it as a big NO! Spiritual beings don't have any control over the gambling that we are playing and why would we pray?

people pray to be lucky to win

Well don't believe praising some rituals makes do something to win a gamble because it's all about luck this is the reason why some of the people bought and bring their lucky charm. It looks like you become dependent on your believes and prayer but you are doing a risk and chance to lose part of your life.

Well in some parts we cannot remove their beliefs and norms it's better to respect their thoughts to prevent getting issues from different perspectives.

in Africa people use witches to do some kind of witchcraft to get lucky


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: jostorres on June 11, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
I sometimes pray when playing but don't blame God if I lose, I accept the fact that we should not involve God when we are not losing, prayer is healthy for our mental health, and we should do that in anything we do to strengthen our spirituality and we have control on how we gamble and will not become a compulsive gambler, praying is what keeps us from becoming a compulsive gambler.
Emotions are part of human behavior and there is no problem praying while gambling because it doesn't mean you are superstitious but it shows you are emotional about your gambling. Whenever we are in stress or trouble we recall our Gods, similarly, when we are gambling and the game is close we pray. Nothing wrong or right about that, it's just a reaction out of the gambler.

Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.
Has there never been a time you recalled God? I cannot imagine someone living in such isolation that they don't pray at some point in their life. If you have never faced troubles, then maybe you never felt the need to pray but that's almost impossible.

When I am losing a bet or things are not going well, I pray and it doesn't change the result but at least makes me feel better about my chances.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: just_Alice on June 11, 2021, 10:33:56 PM
There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.
Good point! I don't think all religions condemn gambling, but I agree with you that the outcome depends on luck and no prayer can change that. But let's not forget that gambling is intended for entertainment in the first place. If for some people it's more fun when they pray before making their bets, who am I to say they shouldn't do it?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ipanks on June 12, 2021, 02:33:54 PM
Gamble at your own risk, don't ask help from the God. :D

Many people keep praying while betting even though they are not asking God but they wish to win the bet somewhat if they are really desperate about winning it.
But there was nothing wrong with that, because even when he prayed the result was still very possible to lose, right?
So it's just a matter of faith and I think as long as they can be comfortable doing that and don't interfere with the comfort of other gamblers, then it's still totally acceptable compared to gambling and stealing, then it's certainly better to gamble and pray.
There is nothing wrong with that and people will still pray to God so they can win. Besides that, we do not know if they are really praying or not as they will not always tell others and keep it secret. But what a gambler must do is always remember that gambling can not always make them win and control themselves. Just playing gambling for fun and never chase the win as we will not have a bigger chance to get it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Johnyz on June 12, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.
Good point! I don't think all religions condemn gambling, but I agree with you that the outcome depends on luck and no prayer can change that. But let's not forget that gambling is intended for entertainment in the first place. If for some people it's more fun when they pray before making their bets, who am I to say they shouldn't do it?
Only those who depend too much in gambling will pray for him to win, though I know we all want to win while having fun but I don’t think praying can help because if all the religious people go to casinos and gamble, they will win but that’s not the case since luck didn’t come from any kind of prayers.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 14, 2021, 05:19:42 PM
There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.
Good point! I don't think all religions condemn gambling, but I agree with you that the outcome depends on luck and no prayer can change that. But let's not forget that gambling is intended for entertainment in the first place. If for some people it's more fun when they pray before making their bets, who am I to say they shouldn't do it?
If someone got more entertainment out of that I will not be against it either but lets be honest those that do something like that do so because they want to obtain the result they want, they want to win and since they have realized that it is impossible for them to do it then they are calling for the help of someone more powerful than them, but this is a bad idea after all I can understand those that call for such help when a family member or friend is sick but to do so just to win a bet? To me that is wrong.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: uneng on June 14, 2021, 05:34:45 PM
If you are really in need for money and would use it in a good way, what is the problem in asking for God's help? Since nothing happens without God's permission, I think it's reasonable to pray for him, at least asking for his permission to win that prize that will be put in good use. Maybe God's answer won't come through gambling.
Anyway you make your intention clear and the spiritual world will act at some point to help you overcoming your financial struggle. People pray during difficulties presented on their lives, also during financial crisis, and many of them find the solution if they keep their faith strong until the end.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dunfida on June 14, 2021, 06:12:52 PM
If you are really in need for money and would use it in a good way, what is the problem in asking for God's help? Since nothing happens without God's permission, I think it's reasonable to pray for him, at least asking for his permission to win that prize that will be put in good use. Maybe God's answer won't come through gambling.
Anyway you make your intention clear and the spiritual world will act at some point to help you overcoming your financial struggle. People pray during difficulties presented on their lives, also during financial crisis, and many of them find the solution if they keep their faith strong until the end.
I find it funny though because the irony of asking for help to win you in gambling is hilarious.
Do you know what are the causes and effects of betting or gambling?
Do you know that you gamble in order to get the money from someone without minding that it's their hard earned money?

Praying for a cause because you need help for good is understandable but praying for something that you want what they have is not right in my opinion. But if you pray to get what you want God may provide it for you but you have to actually work hard for it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fredomago on June 14, 2021, 06:39:08 PM
If someone got more entertainment out of that I will not be against it either but lets be honest those that do something like that do so because they want to obtain the result they want, they want to win and since they have realized that it is impossible for them to do it then they are calling for the help of someone more powerful than them, but this is a bad idea after all I can understand those that call for such help when a family member or friend is sick but to do so just to win a bet? To me that is wrong.

It's again everybody's opinion, if that's how you take it then so be it, but we all know that there are still gamblers who thinks that they've been answered each time they win their bets. They'll keep doing it and try to imitate the results, some may think that they've being guided and the luck that they've getting came from someone who's more powerful.

Let it for those believers and if you are not,  then take your path and enjoy your way of gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: BIN-BIN on June 14, 2021, 06:44:24 PM
Gamblers always believe in luck, and if you are true gamblers, you will agree with the truth that gambling always involves prayers, most especially if you believe in the power of God.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: uneng on June 14, 2021, 06:45:49 PM
Do you know that you gamble in order to get the money from someone without minding that it's their hard earned money?
But it's not a pray in order to have a successful robbery done. :D

Praying for a cause because you need help for good is understandable but praying for something that you want what they have is not right in my opinion.
Gamblers don't desire what belongs to others while playing. All the parts involved put some money from their own pockets under risk, trying to make profit from it. Since the moment they give away the money to enter the game, it is not their money anymore, let's see it as *neutral* money or nobody's money, until the result is revealed.
I think what is wrong is to desire someone else's car, house or even their life. That is the envious individual, but in gambling it doesn't work like that, because people agree in participating a game where both can be benefited or prejudiced in the end.

But if you pray to get what you want God may provide it for you but you have to actually work hard for it.
Yes, totally agree. But it's not possible to understand God's logic sometimes. I see many cases of gamblers who hit the jackpot, especially on the lottery and I can only think it wouldn't happen if God didn't allow it to happen. Maybe they deserved it for the past hard work, maybe they are being tested, who knows...


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dimonstration on June 14, 2021, 07:42:30 PM
If you are really in need for money and would use it in a good way, what is the problem in asking for God's help? Since nothing happens without God's permission, I think it's reasonable to pray for him, at least asking for his permission to win that prize that will be put in good use. Maybe God's answer won't come through gambling.
Anyway you make your intention clear and the spiritual world will act at some point to help you overcoming your financial struggle. People pray during difficulties presented on their lives, also during financial crisis, and many of them find the solution if they keep their faith strong until the end.
Sometimes our faith being tested in difficulties, but if we truly believed and trust Him we will be able to overcome the fears. Sometime we didn’t get what we wanted for us to strive harder in life in a better way. It’s true many believes and pray that gambling can help them to become rich or to win especially in lottery. Faith will help us but not maybe thru gambling, it can be in our job or in other stuff. Keep faith and believing everything should be fine as long as we keep our faith.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on June 14, 2021, 09:24:47 PM
Gambling and prayers has got no part to themselves. As a religious person, Christianity to be precise, gambling is seen as a vice. At most in this century and as such, there is no way there could be gods and man influence to what doesn't agree.
Besides, how can god be partial to favour a side to a game of fairness because, that's what games are often about, fairness. 2 or more different sides contesting amongst themselves over whom is whom or what is what or over some staked price and as a gambler, your just lucky to partake in it and earn some cash if you can depending on how you know the game. Thoyhh sometimes, how well you know the game just doesn't apply.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tippytoes on June 14, 2021, 10:03:13 PM
Gambling and prayers has got no part to themselves. As a religious person, Christianity to be precise, gambling is seen as a vice. At most in this century and as such, there is no way there could be gods and man influence to what doesn't agree.
Besides, how can god be partial to favour a side to a game of fairness because, that's what games are often about, fairness. 2 or more different sides contesting amongst themselves over whom is whom or what is what or over some staked price and as a gambler, your just lucky to partake in it and earn some cash if you can depending on how you know the game. Thoyhh sometimes, how well you know the game just doesn't apply.

It is more on person's religious beliefs why they are associating the prayer to their gambling habits. Prayer has nothing to do with the outcome of your games. If all will pray hard, will your "God" really influence the results? I don't think so. Most gambling games are based on luck and not from any form of prayer.  I guess, people are just using their own prayers to attract positive vibes but relying on prayer to win? That's not likely to happen.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ultrloa on June 14, 2021, 11:13:48 PM
Gambling and prayers has got no part to themselves. As a religious person, Christianity to be precise, gambling is seen as a vice. At most in this century and as such, there is no way there could be gods and man influence to what doesn't agree.
Besides, how can god be partial to favour a side to a game of fairness because, that's what games are often about, fairness. 2 or more different sides contesting amongst themselves over whom is whom or what is what or over some staked price and as a gambler, your just lucky to partake in it and earn some cash if you can depending on how you know the game. Thoyhh sometimes, how well you know the game just doesn't apply.

It is more on person's religious beliefs why they are associating the prayer to their gambling habits. Prayer has nothing to do with the outcome of your games. If all will pray hard, will your "God" really influence the results? I don't think so. Most gambling games are based on luck and not from any form of prayer.  I guess, people are just using their own prayers to attract positive vibes but relying on prayer to win? That's not likely to happen.

Actually its just a belief but in reality you cannot attach god in gambling since even how harder you pray you cannot meet the result you want to get if you are in bad luck. And also god doesn't help gamblers to win so better not associate him in anything since gambling is a sin.

Also its better to rely on luck rather than prayers since its really crazy to play while praying  :D.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Hippocrypto on June 14, 2021, 11:24:25 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Your thoughts is unique man, I praise you on that aspects that you also glorify our own God who made everything here in this world. Because, these people who also worked for a gambling industry literally made a living though gambling. Nobody can judge us, but only God in the first place not even the righteous person who live in this world. Basically if you'd pray seriously to our creator he would provide us the comfort and blessings that he promised in his words. Despite of gambling or whatsoever works of the earth God will always provide and wouldn't condemn his children.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Shasha80 on June 14, 2021, 11:25:40 PM
Gambling and prayers has got no part to themselves. As a religious person, Christianity to be precise, gambling is seen as a vice. At most in this century and as such, there is no way there could be gods and man influence to what doesn't agree.
Besides, how can god be partial to favour a side to a game of fairness because, that's what games are often about, fairness. 2 or more different sides contesting amongst themselves over whom is whom or what is what or over some staked price and as a gambler, your just lucky to partake in it and earn some cash if you can depending on how you know the game. Thoyhh sometimes, how well you know the game just doesn't apply.
It is more on person's religious beliefs why they are associating the prayer to their gambling habits. Prayer has nothing to do with the outcome of your games. If all will pray hard, will your "God" really influence the results? I don't think so. Most gambling games are based on luck and not from any form of prayer.  I guess, people are just using their own prayers to attract positive vibes but relying on prayer to win? That's not likely to happen.
Actually its just a belief but in reality you cannot attach god in gambling since even how harder you pray you cannot meet the result you want to get if you are in bad luck. And also god doesn't help gamblers to win so better not associate him in anything since gambling is a sin.

Also its better to rely on luck rather than prayers since its really crazy to play while praying  :D.

It's like some religions say that gambling is a sin, so I also don't recommend playing gambling to connect with God. So it's better to stop linking
gambling activities with prayer, after all we pray to God asking to get profit from gambling sounds strange to me. Because for me playing gambling is
purely for entertainment, and I'm not obsessed with winning. So I never prayed to be able to win the gamble. My advice is to let each of us determine
our luck when playing gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: milewilda on June 14, 2021, 11:27:25 PM
Gambling and prayers has got no part to themselves. As a religious person, Christianity to be precise, gambling is seen as a vice. At most in this century and as such, there is no way there could be gods and man influence to what doesn't agree.
Besides, how can god be partial to favour a side to a game of fairness because, that's what games are often about, fairness. 2 or more different sides contesting amongst themselves over whom is whom or what is what or over some staked price and as a gambler, your just lucky to partake in it and earn some cash if you can depending on how you know the game. Thoyhh sometimes, how well you know the game just doesn't apply.

It is more on person's religious beliefs why they are associating the prayer to their gambling habits. Prayer has nothing to do with the outcome of your games. If all will pray hard, will your "God" really influence the results? I don't think so. Most gambling games are based on luck and not from any form of prayer.  I guess, people are just using their own prayers to attract positive vibes but relying on prayer to win? That's not likely to happen.
This is actually a belief on where people do really believe that divine intervention could really make out some difference into their gambling habit or activity
on where they do believe that it can give nor affect wining chance or being lucky which is really a very wrong mindset to have but since people do believe into something then let them be because its their choice and theyll soon realize that it wont work no matter how hard they would pray.
Just dont try to sue them out when you do saw someones is praying.lol


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: peter0425 on June 14, 2021, 11:59:21 PM
Gambling and prayers has got no part to themselves. As a religious person, Christianity to be precise, gambling is seen as a vice. At most in this century and as such, there is no way there could be gods and man influence to what doesn't agree.
Besides, how can god be partial to favour a side to a game of fairness because, that's what games are often about, fairness. 2 or more different sides contesting amongst themselves over whom is whom or what is what or over some staked price and as a gambler, your just lucky to partake in it and earn some cash if you can depending on how you know the game. Thoyhh sometimes, how well you know the game just doesn't apply.

It is more on person's religious beliefs why they are associating the prayer to their gambling habits. Prayer has nothing to do with the outcome of your games. If all will pray hard, will your "God" really influence the results? I don't think so. Most gambling games are based on luck and not from any form of prayer.  I guess, people are just using their own prayers to attract positive vibes but relying on prayer to win? That's not likely to happen.
This is only stupidity of the people to believe that Prayers can save them from winning or losing Unless their Gods are a Gambler as well that will understand their desire for another stupid action.
Gambling is prohibited in many religion but i am curious if there is also a God that supports gambling?
thanks for the answers .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ipanks on June 15, 2021, 04:26:34 AM
Actually its just a belief but in reality you cannot attach god in gambling since even how harder you pray you cannot meet the result you want to get if you are in bad luck. And also god doesn't help gamblers to win so better not associate him in anything since gambling is a sin.

Also its better to rely on luck rather than prayers since its really crazy to play while praying  :D.
Maybe that is their habit before they gamble and they believe that when they pray to god, they will win the game and get a lot of money. If they know that will not give a good result at the end of playing gambling, they will not try to pray as their religion does not allow them to play gambling. But we can not do anything if they still do that as they believe about that and still doing that. As long as they pray without making noise, that will not be a problem for us.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lorence.xD on June 15, 2021, 06:39:00 AM
Gamblers always believe in luck, and if you are true gamblers, you will agree with the truth that gambling always involves prayers, most especially if you believe in the power of God.
That's a bit over the top, I don't think discrediting yourself in favor of praising some invisible guy upstairs is a good thing, believe that your strategy works and that it's your doing that you win and not because of luck or a prayer.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on June 15, 2021, 07:46:38 AM
Gamblers always believe in luck, and if you are true gamblers, you will agree with the truth that gambling always involves prayers, most especially if you believe in the power of God.
That's a bit over the top, I don't think discrediting yourself in favor of praising some invisible guy upstairs is a good thing, believe that your strategy works and that it's your doing that you win and not because of luck or a prayer.
No one knows where luck comes from and from whom, basically we just do what we can do and then maybe involve others so that we are lucky about winning or losing. So yeah, as long as they don't harm other people because of different beliefs I guess they are free to do it about praying or not in gambling, because we're just going to keep trying to do our best and about the outcome it can be good and bad and it's not always the same.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: zanezane on June 15, 2021, 08:05:19 AM
Nuh uh, I don't think that it's luck you know, it's more like a probability rather than luck, also if you are considering luck then you're discrediting your ability in a some way because you consider yourself as an agent of some invisible forces without any own will.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: paxmao on June 15, 2021, 08:52:23 AM
Praying and gambling... interesting combination. Praying on this case is asking for a favour of the gods or god for your own personal purposes. I only know a few religions, but most of them are not that much concerned with the completion of the specific goals of the individual in terms of wealth - arguably, some tv priests do sell that to people - so praying would philosophically be quite offensive to most deities in modern times. I am not so sure it will be a bad thing is you adore Satan, The Flying Spaghetti Monster  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster)or you are Jedi. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jediism#:~:text=Jediism%20(or%20Jedism)%20is%20a,"Jedi"%20on%20national%20censuses.)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: famososMuertos on June 17, 2021, 03:23:35 AM
I came across this news that may have a place in this topic.

[News]-/Title:
"A Nun Stole $835,000 From A School To Feed A Gambling Habit, Prosecutors Say2/-
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According to prosecutors, Kreuper was the principal of St. James Catholic School in Torrance for 28 years and admitted to embezzling money from the institution for a decade, ending in 2018
Source: https://www.npr.org/2021/06/10/1005101141/a-nun-stole-835-000-from-a-school-to-feed-a-gambling-habit-prosecutors-say

In the end, it's not really about your convictions but about your actions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: mig6r on June 17, 2021, 02:38:30 PM
Why don't you just go for a test and place 100 bets with praying and 100 bets without praying. Then you check whether there is a statistically significant deviation from one form of betting to the other. I am sorry to tell you the result upfront, but there won't be a difference. Otherwise the whole betting scene would turn into a religious cult for sure. ;)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Saisher on June 17, 2021, 03:11:58 PM
Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 17, 2021, 03:38:13 PM
Gamblers always believe in luck, and if you are true gamblers, you will agree with the truth that gambling always involves prayers, most especially if you believe in the power of God.
That's a bit over the top, I don't think discrediting yourself in favor of praising some invisible guy upstairs is a good thing, believe that your strategy works and that it's your doing that you win and not because of luck or a prayer.
No one knows where luck comes from and from whom, basically we just do what we can do and then maybe involve others so that we are lucky about winning or losing. So yeah, as long as they don't harm other people because of different beliefs I guess they are free to do it about praying or not in gambling, because we're just going to keep trying to do our best and about the outcome it can be good and bad and it's not always the same.
There is not such a thing as luck, there are only probabilities, when people have a good time at the casino and they earn some money they think of it as getting lucky, but this is false, this is just one of the almost infinite ways of how that particular day could have ended for them and it just happened to be one that was beneficial for them, but probabilities dictate that this is not going to be very common and people knowing this, at least instinctively, and they try to change this by praying for divine intervention.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: nakamura12 on June 17, 2021, 06:21:14 PM


Cool! How many bets may it takes if we also includes those gods from every small religion that exist? but all in all
it's human behaviors that affects this beliefs.

Even you take it all and pray there's no assurance that the results of your gambling may changed uo and favor you,
still luck and good bankroll managements that will lead you to win.
Indeed, I have placed a bet before and I tried to pray but it didn't change the favor to me and it doesn't mean that I can't win. Bankroll management and luck is what most people need. If you win and lose less then it is your lucky day and it won't change to unlucky day when you have full control of your urge to gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Renampun on June 17, 2021, 07:06:37 PM
Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won :D


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oilacris on June 17, 2021, 08:40:40 PM
Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won :D
This is real!

When the time they hit up millions specially on lotteries then those kind of prayers would definitely be forgotten and some do even promise to make out some charitable works if they won but when it happened then those would be forgotten and they would prioritize on whats do they have in mind.

People would forgot God already when they got millions but honestly its not really that appropriate on tagging out divine intervention into your gambling
activity because luck cant really be influenced by any factors.



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Mahanton on June 17, 2021, 09:51:10 PM
Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won :D
This is real!

When the time they hit up millions specially on lotteries then those kind of prayers would definitely be forgotten and some do even promise to make out some charitable works if they won but when it happened then those would be forgotten and they would prioritize on whats do they have in mind.

People would forgot God already when they got millions but honestly its not really that appropriate on tagging out divine intervention into your gambling
activity because luck cant really be influenced by any factors.


They would forget everything and they would buy on things that they had wished and all the stuffs that they are longing to buy.
They wouldnt care about those promises that they had made when they are just still betting and make out some promises.
I have see several people who had been like this not on a lottery winner but on a simple gambling winnings where promising on making
charitable works and after that then t hey do forget but most of the time they cant do such thing because they do lost it all.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: imstillthebest on June 18, 2021, 06:57:23 AM
Prayer is healthy to the mind and god for our mental health so even if you are going to pray while gambling you are doing yourself well I have never seen or heard a person who is not praying it's part of our being human I don't see anything wrong if I pray and I will not judge people who are praying because it's good for everybody.
Praying is our way of talking to God but praying when gambling! I think it's wrong...

It's no secret that naturally many gamblers pray when playing gambling or placing the lottery, their only hope is to win. but the bad thing that happened then was they forgot god again when they won :D
This is real!

When the time they hit up millions specially on lotteries then those kind of prayers would definitely be forgotten and some do even promise to make out some charitable works if they won but when it happened then those would be forgotten and they would prioritize on whats do they have in mind.

People would forgot God already when they got millions but honestly its not really that appropriate on tagging out divine intervention into your gambling
activity because luck cant really be influenced by any factors.


They would forget everything and they would buy on things that they had wished and all the stuffs that they are longing to buy.
They wouldnt care about those promises that they had made when they are just still betting and make out some promises.
I have see several people who had been like this not on a lottery winner but on a simple gambling winnings where promising on making
charitable works and after that then t hey do forget but most of the time they cant do such thing because they do lost it all.
some local lotteries are a part of a movement where they help charities for every bet a bettor makes .
why cant they bet on it . win or loose they are helping someone and they dont need to worry even if they forgot their promise of helping a charity  .
god knows if who is sincere and will make its promise and for the people that won and forget god , god will make a way to punish that winner .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: jaberwock on June 18, 2021, 07:08:01 AM
win or loose they are helping someone and they dont need to worry even if they forgot their promise of helping a charity
Instead of going through lottery system for helping charity, why not a gambler just go for helping directly to the needy people? Honestly I never believe into such things like a gambling house is donating something for charity and only from the remaining amounts, they are running their business. In my opinion people who are really having helping tendency, they will never advertise them for the cause of developing their business.

on a simple gambling winnings where promising on making charitable works and after that then t hey do forget but most of the time they cant do such thing because they do lost it all.
By knowing the final outcome in advance, it seems they are making such promises. The moral we need to learn here is, we should never make any promises based on the future profits of gambling because there is nothing like that in reality ;).


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: owengtam09 on June 18, 2021, 08:17:41 AM
Praying has nothing to do with our bets. We pray for our wants, but that does it mean we can already get what we want when we pray especially if it is about gambling. For me, we have the same God. It just depends on your beliefs but we have one God. I already experience praying before betting, like 'please make me win this time but not all the time it is granted because we are the ones who make our fate.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bittraffic on June 18, 2021, 08:35:51 AM

Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: imstillthebest on June 18, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
win or loose they are helping someone and they dont need to worry even if they forgot their promise of helping a charity
Instead of going through lottery system for helping charity, why not a gambler just go for helping directly to the needy people? Honestly I never believe into such things like a gambling house is donating something for charity and only from the remaining amounts, they are running their business. In my opinion people who are really having helping tendency, they will never advertise them for the cause of developing their business.
this is better to do too if you are in doubt of that movement and you can personaly pick your beneficiary . the reason why i believe them is they are government based,  long time running , have been telecast in the tv's and i can see the testimonies of the people that they help  .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DU18 on June 18, 2021, 09:20:33 AM
Of course, gambling is more fun when you gain (win), but I'm not really sure if God will care if you win or lose at the casino, because basically in gambling luck is the determinant of your own destiny, Many religious people will say that gambling is a sin, but why do people keep doing it? surely some people will answer to have fun and enjoy life and some others make gambling their profession, so there is nothing wrong with asking God for a little help by praying for luck at the casino, regardless of whether your prayers are accepted or not, of course it all depends on your own intentions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: delfastTions on June 18, 2021, 10:06:33 AM

Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.
By the way, in many religions the topic of money, wealth, good and easy earnings is not considered something extremely necessary for a person.  In contrast, for example, the health of the person himself and his relatives and friends.  So it is not yet known how the higher beings relate to such prayers with a request to get rich from the gain.
Maybe it is the higher powers that learn from prayer that a person is wicked, for example, he already won some time ago, and vice versa, they will do it so that he does not win again. 
Nobody will ever know what the higher powers think, and we can only guess and then find out what happened.....


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ewox on June 18, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
I think mostly people who pray before betting or gambling a certain game is like believing some higher being above us all listens and hopefully side with them when they talk to Him. It keeps the peoples faith too. And there is nothing wrong with praying even if you are betting or gambling, in my opinion it all boils down to your prayer if it is heartily being delivered or addressed to God. But you know, to each his own. I know a few people praying and making the sign of the cross before they bet on something like cockfighting or even betting a boxers game, for example a Manny Pacquiao’s fight.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: rhomelmabini on June 18, 2021, 10:29:20 AM
I think mostly people who pray before betting or gambling a certain game is like believing some higher being above us all listens and hopefully side with them when they talk to Him. It keeps the peoples faith too. And there is nothing wrong with praying even if you are betting or gambling, in my opinion it all boils down to your prayer if it is heartily being delivered or addressed to God. But you know, to each his own. I know a few people praying and making the sign of the cross before they bet on something like cockfighting or even betting a boxers game, for example a Manny Pacquiao’s fight.
That's what those people who prays they are asking for some guidance or asking that luck may side with them. I agree there's nothing wrong believing in it but I guess it will all depend on what purpose you're asking it, just my two cents as I'm not that of a believer on a faith of prayer while gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 18, 2021, 10:43:42 AM
Praying has nothing to do with our bets. We pray for our wants, but that does it mean we can already get what we want when we pray especially if it is about gambling. For me, we have the same God. It just depends on your beliefs but we have one God. I already experience praying before betting, like 'please make me win this time but not all the time it is granted because we are the ones who make our fate.
You can say that but for some people, they will pray before they gamble because that can increase their confidence in playing gambling. They consider that after they pray, their luck will come to them to win the games. But that will not always happen like that because no matter what we say, we will not win the game if we do not have luck in gambling. So human is unique because they still pray to GOD to play gambling, which is prohibited in their religion.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 18, 2021, 10:46:24 AM

Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.
^ Definitely right but it does not mean this will give a guarantee that you will win, but I believe if a gambler that has courage and confidence in himself will most likely boost the chances that the gambler will win. I don't want to combine gambling and prayer because for me they are not related to each other, many religious groups believe that gambling is a sin but I think every one of us has a preferred belief that we think will give us luck while gambling. So there is nothing to argue, just respect what each of us believes and continues to gamble as what we want. Because sometimes in that point when we were faced heavy losses might we blame that above that we believe.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lordhermes on June 18, 2021, 01:56:58 PM
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
All these doesn't work in gambling predictions, this is just a caged beliefs that hinders others from prospering, the possibility of winning in gambling is only in practicing some sort strategy in selecting the good option for winning, this is the hardest part of gambling strategy, spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: johhnyUA on June 18, 2021, 02:00:33 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?

Yep, tried to do so. One time, before poker tournament.

Did it work?

This will be funny, but yes, this helped to me. I didn't get 1st place, but was in prize pool anyway  ;D
I think this is some kind of self-conviction. IF you really believe in this, then it will help you with a bigger probability than without it. If you're skeptic - there is no reason to do so for you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Luzin on June 18, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: molsewid on June 18, 2021, 03:25:57 PM

Believing that you will win is what encourages you to gamble so it must be worth praying. I've seen a lot of people secretly praying they will earn big not just in gambling. If you observe some religious boxers going to do sign of the cross like they are about to give it all for the fight, it gives them the courage to fight. It's no different to gambling, you will eventually win after few spins but you got to learn when to stop too.

I've been doing this as often as I can, I mean everytime when I played an online game and the fight is intense I can utter a prayer in my mind wishing and praying that how i wish I win in that certain battle, sometimes it worked but sometimes also not worked. Some are believing in power of prayer in their gambling activities some are not and I guess that is totally fine we have our own perception about this thing. I see also some gamblers who were praying first before gambling i mean it is mot necessary but it is all depend on the persons belief.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: LesterNavarro on June 18, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
It is not happen always right because it co-intendent with game and you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Reid on June 18, 2021, 03:34:47 PM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO

Or, it became a habit. Gamblers do that. They blow their cards, they wish something with lady luck, or they have some kind of habitual movement before putting the bet. i.e. cross fingers.  ;D
If it gives them fun to do it or they think it makes the chances higher then why not.
But everything will go down to how the roll will come out. It's luck-based mostly using an algorithm like how the raffles are being done.
There are games where it could be cheated like lotto, dice, and other computer-based games today.
God won't help with such a game. If He will talk to you, He might just say to use that to fill your tummy. Just like how your mom taught you.  ;D


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: BITCOIN4X on June 18, 2021, 03:34:47 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dunfida on June 18, 2021, 04:08:23 PM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO
I think whatever the odds people will continue to cling onto something that they think would help them to win a game. But of course, they will need to do something in order to win they have to put some effort too and that's the strategy on how to win. Praying may have a connection to their luck that's why they have to do it but the irony is why pray to your God when gambling is forbidden? Maybe they have a different beliefs that's why it's so easy to do it without feeling guilty.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Roidz on June 18, 2021, 05:26:45 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lanatsa on June 18, 2021, 06:34:55 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
We don't know on whats hated and whats not since there are religion which does have neutral dealings when it comes to gambling so we cant really tell if prayer of someone would be effective or not for him to win on playing gambling.

Its really hard to determine if this one do really works or not but since there are people whom do continue to pray despite of some criticisms that it doesn't work then
just let them be.

We do have different beliefs on life and lets just respect on what others been believing on a particular thing as long we don't harm any other people then it should be fine.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bitzizzix on June 18, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
We don't know on whats hated and whats not since there are religion which does have neutral dealings when it comes to gambling so we cant really tell if prayer of someone would be effective or not for him to win on playing gambling.

Its really hard to determine if this one do really works or not but since there are people whom do continue to pray despite of some criticisms that it doesn't work then
just let them be.

We do have different beliefs on life and lets just respect on what others been believing on a particular thing as long we don't harm any other people then it should be fine.
Prayer will always be there when we want to do or make something even though it is against what I think there is no prohibition.
and the logic is that whatever happens, win or lose in a bet, it's because God moves whether we consider it a factor of luck or not.
I pray when I want to gamble I just want to be able to control myself and play calmly and not be bothered by demons that incite not to be able to control myself and lust, and I feel there is a reaction and can play calmly and not ambition.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 18, 2021, 09:30:06 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on June 19, 2021, 12:11:19 AM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Erdogan on June 19, 2021, 03:33:54 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lordhermes on June 19, 2021, 06:26:19 AM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO
In a situation where a bet is placed without strategy and prayer, then the bet was won, who makes the bet successful, that's a pure luck right? Another scenerio of a gambler that follows every strategy and pray and consult whatever to his God before placing bets, at least the bet fails, who causes the failure, same God.?
Most of times I won bets by placing carelessly without thorough strategy, I don't pray to nay God, who did it for me, luck right. Such belief doesn't work and jt can never work on gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Quidat on June 19, 2021, 09:59:01 AM
spiritual power or consulting to God before placing bet can't do anything related to winning in gambling.
Because I think people have a ritual to do something and it is considered to have a positive effect. Maybe you won't believe it. But most people do prayer and effort. They don't just use strategy but expect help from those they believe in.
There are those who believe it is luck if they win, but luck will not keep coming, so they need a strategy and pray, so that it will be eased. IMO
In a situation where a bet is placed without strategy and prayer, then the bet was won, who makes the bet successful, that's a pure luck right? Another scenerio of a gambler that follows every strategy and pray and consult whatever to his God before placing bets, at least the bet fails, who causes the failure, same God.?
Most of times I won bets by placing carelessly without thorough strategy, I don't pray to nay God, who did it for me, luck right. Such belief doesn't work and jt can never work on gambling.
A question or situation on where people should really think off about on how to win even in the absence of strategy and prayer and was mentioned then it was indeed pure luck and this is what matter most in gambling where it is a game of chance and luck for something you can win and able to hit it.If someone do really believe that
prayer does play a big role on winning their game then just let them believe on what they do believe because we do have our own decisions in life.
But for me in gambling I don't see the relevance nor the connection for it to be the reason on why you had won your game.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 19, 2021, 01:37:01 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.
Yes, every gambler are hoping for the luck needed to win but prayer still doesn't work or help in winning when it comes to gambling and it better we face the certainty about this issue cause a gambler with no knowledge and strategy will never win the game even if she won the game she will gamble with all the money she won in the end.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 19, 2021, 02:19:42 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 19, 2021, 02:43:38 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.
Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.
Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.

 
But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
I agree with you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Johnyz on June 19, 2021, 02:48:08 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: geegaw on June 19, 2021, 07:35:58 PM
It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.
Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.
I don't want to talk about religious matters too much, I simply think that the way we pray only shows how miserable we are with the current situation, there is nothing we can do, except make a request from God but why do we pray about such unreasonable requests. We are not really in a situation where there is no way out and we are forced to pray, we can get out of this simply by not playing and not participating but why do so many people still prefer the situation to be more complicated


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on June 19, 2021, 09:44:44 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.
Yes, every gambler are hoping for the luck needed to win but prayer still doesn't work or help in winning when it comes to gambling and it better we face the certainty about this issue cause a gambler with no knowledge and strategy will never win the game even if she won the game she will gamble with all the money she won in the end.
I agree. That's an uncommon thing with gamblers and religions, it's hard to bet on if you have that type of prayer but you're unsure if that prayer will be granted.
That's why some gamblers only expect to be lucky or not and there's no attachment with religion as they gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: uneng on June 19, 2021, 10:05:29 PM
To make it simple, just pray for God normally. He will listen to your prays and if the solution for your currently problems must be achieved through gambling, that is how God will make it happen on practice through his spiritual laws. I keep in mind God moves in a mysterious ways, so I can't say God will or won't act like this or that, because it's not possible to speak for him.
We can just live a harmonic daily routine, away from the addictions and expect for the best, that our lives may run smoothly through a prosperous, joyful way, however the details of how it will happen for real goes beyond our personal preferences, wishes and desires.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: mig6r on June 19, 2021, 11:48:49 PM
Why don't you just go for a test and place 100 bets with praying and 100 bets without praying. Then you check whether there is a statistically significant deviation from one form of betting to the other. I am sorry to tell you the result upfront, but there won't be a difference. Otherwise the whole betting scene would turn into a religious cult for sure. ;)

That is an awesome idea , but maybe 100 bets are not enough ;D We should make a large size - like 1000 bets. This would be a nice case study. But which God are we praying for? We probably also need to test if there is a difference if we have a Christian, a Budhist , a Hindi or a Muslim praying to their own Gods. In the end we need a lot of bets just to be sure. Also what if there is a different if it is a woman praying or a men?

Haha yes, and if the prayers win the betting competition by a statistically significant margin I will double the winnings of the prayers, I promise. Or even better, I'll surely start praying myself while gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: lienfaye on June 20, 2021, 12:24:05 AM
To make it simple, just pray for God normally. He will listen to your prays and if the solution for your currently problems must be achieved through gambling, that is how God will make it happen on practice through his spiritual laws. I keep in mind God moves in a mysterious ways, so I can't say God will or won't act like this or that, because it's not possible to speak for him.
Exactly, I believe he is listening to our prayers and grant what we desire in different form or situation. So we might win or lose in gambling but it is destined to happen and not because we are a believer. I think the question that need an answer first is, is God or any spiritual being glad that we gamble? Some religion seeing it as a sin.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 20, 2021, 04:23:33 AM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.
Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.
Yes, I agree with you. Everything will not be complicated if we have knowledge. But some people who gamble seem not to learn more about the games they like because they think that gambling will be only for fun.

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.
Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.
If that game is too complicated to play, they must learn to know how to play better and who knows that they can win the game by learning. But if that game does not require knowing more details about the game, they can skip it and enjoy their time playing the game.



Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.
If they only pray and play, that will not be a problem because that will depend on the game they played. If they do not have much knowledge about that game, they do not have to complain if they can not win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: STT on June 20, 2021, 06:29:43 AM
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in a manner that our bets are opposites

There is no prayer for interference in human free will and events but this is not uncommon logic.   In past wars one side would often claim to have the backing of god therefore a passage to victory, these are all misunstandings.  A prayer in my understanding can only be said for the benefit of others and never to win gambling risks, the only chance of any success is work through people and a person in the bet has no personal fight past money.  I totally believe OP when he says many do this but I only hope it clarifies that persons thinking for a moment, nothing else would work same for many hope systems to betting.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ebede on June 20, 2021, 08:15:20 AM
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure  criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 20, 2021, 02:51:23 PM
Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.
Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.
Yes, I agree with you. Everything will not be complicated if we have knowledge. But some people who gamble seem not to learn more about the games they like because they think that gambling will be only for fun.
To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.


Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.
Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.
If that game is too complicated to play, they must learn to know how to play better and who knows that they can win the game by learning. But if that game does not require knowing more details about the game, they can skip it and enjoy their time playing the game.
You are right but they also need to understand the concept of gambling which is what some people don't understand and later lose all their winning fund.

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.
Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.
If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.
If they only pray and play, that will not be a problem because that will depend on the game they played. If they do not have much knowledge about that game, they do not have to complain if they can not win.
@Johnyz, absolutely some people put their believe in praying to do the magic whereas it all have to do with their own preparation and knowledge. That's why I'm against praying and gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 20, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.
I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2021, 05:18:09 PM
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure  criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.
That means we need the luck to win the games and without luck, we will lose. But unfortunately, I want to say that luck will not come easily to you because luck only comes to the chosen one. So praying can only give us calm down before we play, but after we play, the tension in our body will increase and impact how we play. It is good if you can control yourself. Otherwise, you will not see your money with you for a long time.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: mig6r on June 20, 2021, 11:19:15 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.
I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... ;)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 21, 2021, 12:37:09 PM
To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.
Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 21, 2021, 01:45:03 PM
To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.
Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.
You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: sujonali1819 on June 21, 2021, 03:22:59 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?


Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 22, 2021, 10:45:02 AM
To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.
Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.
You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeking that spent more than she can afford to understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.
Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected. I agree with what you say about people searching for other things to have fun, but some people will still use gambling to search for that fun because they feel that by playing gambling, they can enjoy their moment and express their feeling, whatever the result is.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 22, 2021, 11:23:21 PM
To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.
Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.
You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.
Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected.
It good to have a wise mind, follow ones instinct but gambling is just like crypto day trading in some aspect and only traders that took their time to seek for knowledge and understanding the basic part of it will have the wise mind. The same thing happen in gambling and only gamblers that took their time to make research online about the basic step to gamble profitable will have the wise mind.
This is what make understanding the fact about gambling.

I agree with what you say about people searching for other things to have fun, but some people will still use gambling to search for that fun because they feel that by playing gambling, they can enjoy their moment and express their feeling, whatever the result is.
Yes but they are trying to make money and having fun at the same time so the intention was not only to have fun that's why I said no one gamble only for fun.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lanatsa on June 22, 2021, 11:34:13 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?


Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.
But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KennyR on June 22, 2021, 11:41:10 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?


Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.
But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.
The winning can be out of luck, but this coincidence of prayer before the win gives them the energy and believe prayer has got them win. Prayer is part of each and every activity connected with human life, now the same has come to gambling.

Most of the time people will never think about God when they're happy. In such way people pray when they're in loss and if that turns win after prayer then the gamblers start using it a routine before gambling unlike the win/losses.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 22, 2021, 11:53:48 PM

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.
But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.
The winning can be out of luck, but this coincidence of prayer before the win gives them the energy and believe prayer has got them win. Prayer is part of each and every activity connected with human life, now the same has come to gambling.

Most of the time people will never think about God when they're happy. In such way people pray when they're in loss and if that turns win after prayer then the gamblers start using it a routine before gambling unlike the win/losses.

in short, this is more of psychological factor. so are they going to curse their "God" in case they lost big time? let's admit the reality that it has nothing to do with the results. but people want to believe on things they want to believe in. we can't do anything much about that. let them be. as long as they not harming anyone. we are free to believe what we want.
on this aspect, we will see varying opinions, just respect everyone's beliefs.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Obito on June 23, 2021, 01:43:03 AM
Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.
The people who do it probably don't want to take responsibility for their actions and they don't like the idea that they are the reason for losing in gambling but that doesn't warrant us to say that it's a silly thing to do because we still have to respect others even if they are praying before gambling which is the last two words that I think might combine really good next to responsible and gambling, I think anything paired with gambling gets worse.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 23, 2021, 09:01:13 AM
To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.
Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.
You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.
Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected.
It good to have a wise mind, follow ones instinct but gambling is just like crypto day trading in some aspect and only traders that took their time to seek for knowledge and understanding the basic part of it will have the wise mind. The same thing happen in gambling and only gamblers that took their time to make research online about the basic step to gamble profitable will have the wise mind.
This is what make understanding the fact about gambling.
That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DU18 on June 23, 2021, 09:24:49 AM

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

for those who are addicted to gambling, of course, it is very difficult to control themselves because according to the experience of some gamblers I know, gambling seems to have flowed in their minds and it is addictive to players who always want to play and are eager to get profits, and they will continue to gamble. This is even if they get continuous wins without wanting to stop and of course the same thing will also apply to those who lose in the game and it triggers a grudge in their hearts so that they will come back again to avenge the defeat. I think it is very difficult for a gambler to be wise in controlling themselves and most gamblers will only stop when they run out of money and rarely stop when they win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Reatim on June 23, 2021, 09:42:57 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.
Meaning this is casino house and not online right?
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Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.
Sorry but which country you from mate? because it looks like people at your place are very religious and this is rarely happening in most gambling supported countries.

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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
A big NO that's for me .
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Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
Never that i did and i respect my God that is not supporting such.
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If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
That's why both are you are fool to believe that , or else God of other are stronger than God of another  ;D


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pamadar on June 23, 2021, 12:08:03 PM

in short, this is more of psychological factor. so are they going to curse their "God" in case they lost big time? let's admit the reality that it has nothing to do with the results. but people want to believe on things they want to believe in. we can't do anything much about that. let them be. as long as they not harming anyone. we are free to believe what we want.
on this aspect, we will see varying opinions, just respect everyone's beliefs.


More on personal believe, there are gamblers who think that way and we can't argue with their belief.

If they think that there's someone who will listen to them once they start to gamble, let them believe to something that makes them

comfortable while playing inside the house, you can't force to them to stop or tell them that there's none who will listen. Let those
freedom continues to exist for everyone.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: semobo on June 23, 2021, 12:28:45 PM

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

for those who are addicted to gambling, of course, it is very difficult to control themselves because according to the experience of some gamblers I know, gambling seems to have flowed in their minds and it is addictive to players who always want to play and are eager to get profits, and they will continue to gamble. This is even if they get continuous wins without wanting to stop and of course the same thing will also apply to those who lose in the game and it triggers a grudge in their hearts so that they will come back again to avenge the defeat. I think it is very difficult for a gambler to be wise in controlling themselves and most gamblers will only stop when they run out of money and rarely stop when they win.
No wise man will think that gambling is a way to get profits, isn't it? So they are not going to get addicted because they are not gambling for making money and they know the reason for their existence. While there are people who knows gambling is risky but willing to take that risk because they feel that this is easy way to make money so they gamble and may face the betting with their beliefs and prayers.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Smartprofit on June 23, 2021, 12:49:05 PM
Luck is the most important factor that brings us to victory and in gambling games of course have the potential to win or lose so that both will always go hand in hand in every gambling you play.
So I will never believe it if someone says that reading a prayer when you want to play gambling can give us victory.

Yes, it's right! 

Gambling is games based on random events.  They obey the mathematical theory of probability. 

I'm not a puritan.  However, I believe that gambling is not very good for believers.  It's another matter if it's just entertainment.  However, if this is a serious hobby, on which all a person's free time is spent ...

The Lord God does not encourage a hobby for gambling.  There are many more godly ways to spend your money.  Therefore, in my opinion, it is not necessary to resort to prayer while gambling. 

There is an exception to this rule - if you plan to use your winnings for a godly cause.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 23, 2021, 03:38:33 PM

That's right. If we can have a wise mind, we will not panic and think about what we can do with the current situations. We can decide something that will not make us in trouble or lose money in trading or gambling because we will find out how to get out of bad situations. If we can do that, I am sure we will have control over ourselves and we will not even try to spend more money playing gambling.

for those who are addicted to gambling, of course, it is very difficult to control themselves because according to the experience of some gamblers I know, gambling seems to have flowed in their minds and it is addictive to players who always want to play and are eager to get profits, and they will continue to gamble. This is even if they get continuous wins without wanting to stop and of course the same thing will also apply to those who lose in the game and it triggers a grudge in their hearts so that they will come back again to avenge the defeat. I think it is very difficult for a gambler to be wise in controlling themselves and most gamblers will only stop when they run out of money and rarely stop when they win.
I guess they who have been addicted to gambling will not even think about becoming wise in gambling. The winning in the gambling can tempt them to still playing and keep whispering in their ear to place the next bet. Even if they think it is time to stop, they will not stop, instead of placing the next bet by hearing that sound. So when they can win streak more 5 times, it will better to stop as soon as possible. Otherwise, that will become bigger and they will not have any chance to stop before they lose all of their money plus the win money.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 23, 2021, 04:08:14 PM
I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... ;)
Of course it can be done and I gave full instructions about how to do it, the experiment is a personal one and not a discussion about how people are supposed to pray, they only need to do what they do at the casino when they are wishing for the odds and the results to change in their favor, if they do this and they find no difference with the control sample then the conclusion is easy, praying does not influence the results no matter how hard they ask for it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dmamigo on June 23, 2021, 04:09:11 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: qwertyup23 on June 23, 2021, 04:11:32 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.

As much as we all know that these rituals do not affect the chances of winning, these rituals help us mentally and psychologically especially when a person is experiencing deep stress from the gambling activities. Although it is highly advisable that once a gambler starts feeling desperate that he stops, it is easier said than done. That is why, rituals like these exists.

Like what I previously mentioned, these rituals may not affect the chances of winning but they are harmless little activities that definitely help especially under stressful situations.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: blackened515 on June 23, 2021, 09:22:22 PM
 Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: doomloop on June 23, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
I do not believe in any god myself but prayer is not strictly about being in line with god says, you could do something bad and pray for a good outcome, that is what the idea of a "god" is , doesn't matter which religion we are talking about, it could be tutu on the mountain in some African tribe as well and the whole idea of a god is that if you are in a bad situation you ask for help, even if it is a sin, it is still a sin that you want to get a good result from and that's fine, as long as you do not hurt others, which in fact sometimes even works, do you really think that all the people in the world who committed a crime were a non-believer?

Almost all of them were believers and the reason they still do is the human nature, gambling is NOWHERE close to those things, and not even in the top 10 things not to do by a religious person, hence there is no problem about praying while gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Smartvirus on June 23, 2021, 09:40:22 PM
I do not believe in any god myself but prayer is not strictly about being in line with god says, you could do something bad and pray for a good outcome, that is what the idea of a "god" is , doesn't matter which religion we are talking about, it could be tutu on the mountain in some African tribe as well and the whole idea of a god is that if you are in a bad situation you ask for help, even if it is a sin, it is still a sin that you want to get a good result from and that's fine, as long as you do not hurt others, which in fact sometimes even works, do you really think that all the people in the world who committed a crime were a non-believer?

Almost all of them were believers and the reason they still do is the human nature, gambling is NOWHERE close to those things, and not even in the top 10 things not to do by a religious person, hence there is no problem about praying while gambling.
Good point, very well said. Though, there is a part that doesn't sink well with me which is, "asking for good results from bad dids or sins". Sorry i had to rephrase that but then, a bad did is a bad did. The fact that it doesn't affect anyone in particular doesn't make it any good. Its still bad and most likely, would earn a bad result otherwise, why else do you say its bad. Garbage in, Garbage out. So I was thought in my computing lecture days in high school and its the thing about life too. You don't go to a mango tree and somehow be expecting an orange to fall off.
If the result is good, it means the process was good too. If the process was bad, though the result might seem nice at a point, it might be temporal and sooner than later, it would catch up to you. The law of karma!


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lanatsa on June 23, 2021, 10:05:13 PM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
This is what im saying on where God has nothing to do with the things that we've been dealing in our lives specially with gambling.

There are no other things in life could really affect our luckiness in gambling as if these things do really comes randomly and there's no way you can
really make out something that could influence out.

So its not something that you should really rely upon when you do gamble and prayer is really a separate thing..


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: livingfree on June 23, 2021, 11:08:26 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
How can a prayer keep you calm if you're playing for better luck and wins to come as you gamble?

It's not actually important in gambling and I find it really confusing but I guess if you're religious or it's depending on the religion you've got. Since in Chinese people, they're used to pray to their god for better luck as they gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 23, 2021, 11:34:47 PM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a game and it never worked for one day.
Everyone can have a different opinion about this. In my opinion, everything in this life is always related to God, including gambling. We are talking about luck, who gives the luck? It comes from God, God gives us the luck. We must know that the term of luck means something outside our mind, it happens unexpectedly. What we can do is to give our efforts, but luck cannot be planned by us. About you get nothing even you are praying, we all should understand that not each praying is immediately granted by the God. (Anyway this is what I believe)



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oshosondy on June 24, 2021, 06:33:47 AM
From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure  criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.
I remembered one day that I prayed so well, I played bet that day multiple times and I won over $180 in just that day, this is my real life experience and I can never thought prayer at all resulted to it. Although, I can not say it is my prayer that led to the winning but it was kind of making me to think otherwise and confused. But be it anything, we should know the rules of gambling is the best and never thinking it winnings are as a result of prayer, but as a result of quality mindset we have towards gambling. No matter how someone pray, frequently gambling will result to losses. 


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: lienfaye on June 24, 2021, 06:45:03 AM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Kittygalore on June 24, 2021, 06:50:26 AM
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 24, 2021, 08:03:02 AM
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.
Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Desmong on June 24, 2021, 08:15:49 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Who the gods will favor is a rhetorical question that deserve no specific answers. The gods will need to be neutral in this scenerio and everyone need to take responsibility of their decisions without blaming the gods because a winner must surely come out from the two teams. Maybe God should not be brought into this cause the possibility of a team winning depends on luck, work input and strategies that is used.
I've always been in this kind of state time comes time goes, whereby I just always accepted my fates since every gambler prayers is to win bets, not nobody want to lose.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Kittygalore on June 24, 2021, 08:35:06 AM
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Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
I don't have qualms with the people who pray before gambling but I don't personally find the appeal of that because you are trying to appeal to something that doesn't exist. Luck is debatable because I don't really believe in it because gambling is full of probability and odds.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Text on June 24, 2021, 08:37:55 AM
I can't remember if I was able to pray while gambling, maybe I can't call it prayer but just a request.  In other types of gambling and non -sports betting such as bingo, lotteries, scratch cards, etc., there are other types of gambling that are still related to sports, but you do not bet on the team but the numbers or results of the scores.  .  For me, spiritual being has nothing to do with whether or not you win the gamble.  Maybe others are just in the habit of saying thank you in advance for what they believe regardless of the outcome of their bet.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lordhermes on June 24, 2021, 09:52:16 AM
Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm  staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
Some people actually believe in praying when Gambling. But I don't think prayer can makes someone to win when gambling. Although, I have once prayed over a bet which I placed, but I lost. Winning a bet Is all about Luck, not praying or predictions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KTChampions on June 24, 2021, 10:18:00 AM
Some people actually believe in praying when Gambling. But I don't think prayer can makes someone to win when gambling. Although, I have once prayed over a bet which I placed, but I lost. Winning a bet Is all about Luck, not praying or predictions.

Probably someone who bet on the opposite result prayed more diligently  ;D
By the way, I know that some churches have such a paid service - to pray for someone, I wonder if they are ready to pray for any sports performance and will such a service be in demand among gamblers?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: owengtam09 on June 24, 2021, 01:49:49 PM
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.
Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
Prayer is not the answer of winning. Even in every game what you play in life, but prayer is everything but we cannot use it in gambling. You can still do it but we cannot use that as our security to win. If people doesn't want to lose more than what they can afford then simply play with the amount that they can afford to lose and don't expect that your prayer will help you in your every games. Being lucky is also a good time for us to win although kittygalore is right that the mathematics and probability can also be the one who made us win, maybe you should have them both, luck and probability to make us win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 24, 2021, 02:27:30 PM
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Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
I don't have qualms with the people who pray before gambling but I don't personally find the appeal of that because you are trying to appeal to something that doesn't exist. Luck is debatable because I don't really believe in it because gambling is full of probability and odds.
Yes, we can feel like that but I doubt that is what other people will feel because when they start praying, they will feel better and gamble without hard feeling and hopefully, they can also accept whatever the result later. Although luck is debatable, luck is the important thing that every gambler should have, and they need to realize that. I agree that gambling is full of probability and odds, which is the thing that luck will play.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: mig6r on June 24, 2021, 03:31:36 PM
I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... ;)
Of course it can be done and I gave full instructions about how to do it, the experiment is a personal one and not a discussion about how people are supposed to pray, they only need to do what they do at the casino when they are wishing for the odds and the results to change in their favor, if they do this and they find no difference with the control sample then the conclusion is easy, praying does not influence the results no matter how hard they ask for it.

Are you trying to tell me that your suggestion on how to do it is scientifically sound? :D lol...

If it is all about wishing, then who doesn't wish for the outcome that makes the player win? This cannot objectively be tested. Anyway, who cares. Let the people pray and believe they can outcompete the house just by praying, good luck holy people!


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fatunad on June 24, 2021, 08:15:06 PM
I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... ;)
Of course it can be done and I gave full instructions about how to do it, the experiment is a personal one and not a discussion about how people are supposed to pray, they only need to do what they do at the casino when they are wishing for the odds and the results to change in their favor, if they do this and they find no difference with the control sample then the conclusion is easy, praying does not influence the results no matter how hard they ask for it.

Are you trying to tell me that your suggestion on how to do it is scientifically sound? :D lol...

If it is all about wishing, then who doesn't wish for the outcome that makes the player win? This cannot objectively be tested. Anyway, who cares. Let the people pray and believe they can outcompete the house just by praying, good luck holy people!
This is just also my mindset on just let them be because we do have our own things that do believe in life which means each of us would really be different when it comes to those things that we do approach.We do really have that wishful thinking which would really be the reason for people to
make out those kind of praying behavior which i cant really blame them off because once we do get engage with then we would really be having those kind of mindset that we should really be lucky and that wishful thinking ending up on this kind of action.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Renampun on June 24, 2021, 09:43:15 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
Gambling wins are usually based on luck and skill, not based on prayer :D

I think we should use prayer only for other things, in the holy book there is no prohibition against gambling, it's just that in the general public gambling is a form of sin. A prayer is a form of our request to God and it's really strange if we ask God to win the gamble lol.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 24, 2021, 10:05:30 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
Gambling wins are usually based on luck and skill, not based on prayer :D

I think we should use prayer only for other things, in the holy book there is no prohibition against gambling, it's just that in the general public gambling is a form of sin. A prayer is a form of our request to God and it's really strange if we ask God to win the gamble lol.
^ Definitely right, but it really matters on us, in our faith and also our religious belief but think it over of what in the holy book said that the gambling is a part of sin and why you will ask to the above if this is a sin. However, we can't blame them for what they believe, that is their life anyway and they are free to do everything they want. But probably wishing someone and hoping that you will win on which game did you gamble will probably the right way for this, not by prayer.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: chaser15 on June 24, 2021, 10:23:25 PM
Gambling wins are usually based on luck and skill, not based on prayer :D

I think we should use prayer only for other things, in the holy book there is no prohibition against gambling, it's just that in the general public gambling is a form of sin. A prayer is a form of our request to God and it's really strange if we ask God to win the gamble lol.

That is correct if you will take it literally but it's not the thing here.

A gambler already knows that praying won't give influence to their desire but that was just a form of guidance as luck is not a thing that you can get even you to want. Since they are already gambling with risk then they will also risk for chances if someone ABOVE will listen to them thru praying. :)

Let those people just pray and we shouldn't bother about that.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: OgNasty on June 24, 2021, 10:25:32 PM
Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe. You have to remember that gambling is paying for entertainment and while some people use it in an attempt to get rich it doesn’t change the fact that you are paying for entertainment. Leave God out of your debauchery.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 24, 2021, 10:57:35 PM
Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe.
It depends on someone's belief. If in his/her belief that praying doesn't deserve to include in gambling, it shouldn't be a part of gambling. While if in his/her belief that praying is something usual in the game like gambling, so just go to pray in gambling. Actually, this something shouldn't be debated because basically the choice of an individual. I don't know why many people debate it here although they know it is the right of the individual.



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oilacris on June 24, 2021, 11:03:09 PM
Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe.
It depends on someone's belief. If in his/her belief that praying doesn't deserve to include in gambling, it shouldn't be a part of gambling. While if in his/her belief that praying is something usual in the game like gambling, so just go to pray in gambling. Actually, this something shouldn't be debated because basically the choice of an individual. I don't know why many people debate it here although they know it is the right of the individual.


People would believe into something that he had proven out that it had worked on him or basing up with real life experience and all would really be believing into something if they had done it on the past.

Is there something we can do? No, because its just normal for a human reaction to have this kind of behavior whenever we do make something and it turns out to work then we would surely be having that kind of belief.

Prayer neither could work or not but honestly divine things has nothing to do with gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KTChampions on June 25, 2021, 11:19:05 AM
Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe. You have to remember that gambling is paying for entertainment and while some people use it in an attempt to get rich it doesn’t change the fact that you are paying for entertainment. Leave God out of your debauchery.

It depends on which God they are turning to  ;D
I am not an expert on religious practices, but now, as far as I know, this issue is very liberalized and you can pray on any issue and to any God (good or evil). Perhaps this process of "communication" with higher beings for the people who are engaged in these are more important than the very process of entertaining betting.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DU18 on June 25, 2021, 11:39:43 AM
Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe.
It depends on someone's belief. If in his/her belief that praying doesn't deserve to include in gambling, it shouldn't be a part of gambling. While if in his/her belief that praying is something usual in the game like gambling, so just go to pray in gambling. Actually, this something shouldn't be debated because basically the choice of an individual. I don't know why many people debate it here although they know it is the right of the individual.


someone's belief in what they believe is their basic right and we certainly can't force it on other people, what they do we don't necessarily think is right, as well as what we do may not be in line with their beliefs, but I really believe all Religions in the world teach goodness to their people, Every gambling player certainly wants victory and not defeat and usually Prayers and spell are always spoken from the mouth of almost all gambling players and they hope to win and in my opinion every intention and hope of winning that is in the heart is a prayer, and usually gamblers will hope that they get lucky in the game.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Erdogan on June 25, 2021, 02:52:57 PM
I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KTChampions on June 25, 2021, 03:36:44 PM
I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.

It seems to me that everyone understands that this is not a real prayer, but only a way to reduce nervous tension. In general, this is quite paradoxical - people go to casinos to tickle their nerves and at the same time try to reduce the effect they get during the game.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: uneng on June 25, 2021, 04:07:51 PM
I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.
How does God have nothing to do with math and probability if he is the creator of all things?
The basics of every religions is that a supreme creator gave origin to all the rest. Although minor gods possessing power to create also exist in some religions they wouldn't exist without a supreme creator that is above all. So God is associated with all the laws which rule the universe, what includes math, probability and everything else. God has nothing to do with the misuse of the elements of his creation, that are the addictions. But there are no problems in having a healthy gambling routine.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: mig6r on June 25, 2021, 04:48:00 PM
Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe. You have to remember that gambling is paying for entertainment and while some people use it in an attempt to get rich it doesn’t change the fact that you are paying for entertainment. Leave God out of your debauchery.

Amen.


I need to add a couple of words or otherwise my post might be deleted as spam, but what I really wanted to respond to OgNasty remains: Amen. ;)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on June 25, 2021, 04:55:00 PM
Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win.
Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
Prayer is not the answer of winning. Even in every game what you play in life, but prayer is everything but we cannot use it in gambling. You can still do it but we cannot use that as our security to win. If people doesn't want to lose more than what they can afford then simply play with the amount that they can afford to lose and don't expect that your prayer will help you in your every games. Being lucky is also a good time for us to win although kittygalore is right that the mathematics and probability can also be the one who made us win, maybe you should have them both, luck and probability to make us win.
Prayer can make you calm down, even in gambling. But that will depend on how you can control yourself in gambling. If you lose your control, you will not calm down but anger to see your loss. Some people beliefs that if they pray before gamble can increase their chance to win, but that depends on your luck itself. Whether you pray or not, if you do not have luck, you will not win. Getting lucky in gambling is hard, so it is better not to hope that your luck will come to you every time you gamble. Probability can give you the chance to win, but you still need luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on June 25, 2021, 05:21:06 PM
I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.
How does God have nothing to do with math and probability if he is the creator of all things?
The basics of every religions is that a supreme creator gave origin to all the rest. Although minor gods possessing power to create also exist in some religions they wouldn't exist without a supreme creator that is above all. So God is associated with all the laws which rule the universe, what includes math, probability and everything else. God has nothing to do with the misuse of the elements of his creation, that are the addictions. But there are no problems in having a healthy gambling routine.
Right, it's funny when someone says "god has nothing to do with".
Because after all, God certainly knows what the person is doing but on the other hand, most of them don't realize that God knows and is watching. So in the case of praying while gambling it is still not a problem because after all, the gambler believes that his god will be involved but that doesn't mean that by praying the results will always be good, no. Because praying is just an effort from someone to get good results, even though the results are not always good but at least he has good faith in his god and it's not a problem.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 25, 2021, 11:59:07 PM
someone's belief in what they believe is their basic right and we certainly can't force it on other people
Sure, that's exactly my point. You should realize it, I stated 'it is the right of the individual'. In this matter, we cannot force someone, belief is a basic human right and all people must respect it. Each gambler has the right both to pray or not pray in gambling, there is no problem about it. Only he/she knows it is good or bad in his/her belief.

In my belief, praying is just for a good thing, while gambling isn't a good thing. So, praying shouldn't include in gambling. But it is in my belief, if you have a different belief, you can do a different way. I will never blame you because doing a different way.

Anyway, I think our discussion tends to widen since we are talking much about beliefs or religion. And this discussion will be endless because of talking about an individual right. OP @Rruchi man, it is time to stop the discussion and lock the thread.  ;)



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: blackened515 on June 26, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
The belief that if one prays before gambling it will bring good fortune in the game will help,while on the other hand,when one goes to just try luck,whether he wins or not,he bares in mind of wasting the money most atimes tends to favour him than when he prays.Nevertheless,luck and prayer seems to be almost the same thing in gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: roosbit on June 26, 2021, 10:48:16 AM
Sentive topic but imo Prayer is good but this works in your favor if you have put in the hard work to achieve the intended results.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pokapoka124 on June 26, 2021, 11:02:39 AM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: kotajikikox on June 26, 2021, 11:18:01 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
I once try to believe in faith and prayers that will make me win in gambling specially when i still playing Cockfighting back in years.
and also when i am going to casino houses before and at first it is effective but sooner? still it is luck that makes me win.
Sentive topic but imo Prayer is good but this works in your favor if you have put in the hard work to achieve the intended results.
trust me this is not true mate, Prayers will never make you win but it is the Luck that we must be friend .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AakZaki on June 26, 2021, 11:44:53 AM
~snip~

The Lord God does not encourage a hobby for gambling.  There are many more godly ways to spend your money.  Therefore, in my opinion, it is not necessary to resort to prayer while gambling. 

There is an exception to this rule - if you plan to use your winnings for a godly cause.
You are right . But at the end of the sentence Are you kidding. LOL. For some people I meet, even though they want to do something forbidden they still pray. But maybe this happens out of habit. But if this is disputed later it will be endless. Everyone has different beliefs. In the end I just leave it up to you all, because this is a matter of belief.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 26, 2021, 11:45:27 AM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think
Wrong , if you have been playing for long in gambling then you must understand that there is nothing that can help you but your Luck.

this is something that you must believe mate and not that power above will let you win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: BIN-BIN on June 26, 2021, 11:46:50 AM
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Sentive topic but imo Prayer is good but this works in your favor if you have put in the hard work to achieve the intended results.

You are right, prayer alone can’t give you the winning, you need to put in some level of hard work to achieve your goal.

But in all prayers bring good luck, and gambling is all about luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 26, 2021, 06:53:01 PM
In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks.
Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.

As much as we all know that these rituals do not affect the chances of winning, these rituals help us mentally and psychologically especially when a person is experiencing deep stress from the gambling activities. Although it is highly advisable that once a gambler starts feeling desperate that he stops, it is easier said than done. That is why, rituals like these exists.

Like what I previously mentioned, these rituals may not affect the chances of winning but they are harmless little activities that definitely help especially under stressful situations.
At best that is a beneficial aftereffect but the reason people pray in the casino is to ask for a favorable outcome and while this can give them peace of mind in the case they lose this is not what they were looking for, trying to gain an advantage by manipulating something that cannot by manipulated like luck is very common, this is why not only you are going to see people praying but you will see them holding objects that supposedly have brought them luck in the past and they keep them around with the hope this happens again, even when we know this does not really make sense.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pokapoka124 on June 26, 2021, 07:31:29 PM
Wrong , if you have been playing for long in gambling then you must understand that there is nothing that can help you but your Luck.

this is something that you must believe mate and not that power above will let you win.
You've got me confused. Define "luck"? What drives or attracts good luck? Is luck a function of belief in oneself? I'd like to know


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Mahanton on June 26, 2021, 08:45:06 PM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think
Lots of things would get involved whenever you do prolong your game on where you do really end up on believing into something which is really a very common behavior for most gamblers but actually luck isnt something that can really be influenced because it does come randomly but there are people whom do really believe that they can really call it out on being lucky on a certain game which is really a very wrong mindset to have because this will surely motivate you to play even more and forcing out that you would really be winning the game just because you had done something.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: BlackViruse on June 27, 2021, 03:12:28 AM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think
It's been what almost everyone I've known does before or while gambling,they must say a short prayer before staking,and the belief that the prayer will be answered most atimes makes them win.I personally think that one's prayer to any God before starting will determine his fate in the game.While some person's just don't believe making prayer before gambling and sees it as a waste.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: iTradeChips on June 27, 2021, 10:21:24 AM
When I gamble I always do not invoke the spiritual on this. Since I was raised in a family who are semi-religious and are not superstitious. All you need to do is just play and simply leave it to chance. Sure, you can say that you might try to say something like "please" to fate or God, whisper that only you can hear. But for me it is not a prayer, maybe for others like you are asking God to make things in your favor. I just say "please" and if I lose, that is it. No remose, everything fine.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Hamphser on June 27, 2021, 06:00:05 PM
This is nothing more than superstition. If praying was all it took to succeed in gambling then we'd all be rich. I don't have any specific rituals I do before gambling and I think I have better results than the average person but I am also not as successful as people who have made a fortune. It is really just a mix of luck, risk, and sometimes skill that will determine how successful you will be.
Yeah, that's true let's are practical, but let's just also respect what they are believing and what they want to do, if they think that luck will come to them once they have done praying before betting then just let them go, lets respect them. Most of the time religious persons are doing that thing when they want to achieve something.
They would be also the ones who would really be realizing on things that they've been doing neither they would be finding out that prayer does work or not or typically overall random since we are dealing with gambling.

Lets just respect on what they do believe as long they dont harm out other people then i dont see anything wrong for someone to pray that he should won a particular game.

Its a personal choice and decision so its none of our business if they do believe that prayer does have significant while they do play.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 27, 2021, 06:44:04 PM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think
It's been what almost everyone I've known does before or while gambling,they must say a short prayer before staking,and the belief that the prayer will be answered most atimes makes them win.I personally think that one's prayer to any God before starting will determine his fate in the game.While some person's just don't believe making prayer before gambling and sees it as a waste.
I already saw someone carrying a talisman, use a ring, necklace, or even rabbit foot and they will say that is their luck. They feel confident when they use that thing, but that does not guarantee them winning the games. And if they lose, they will only say that it is their bad day and will come again the next day. Some gamblers will pray before gambling and that is really happening in some gambling places. Maybe we think that it does not make sense to pray or use a talisman, but they still wear it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Stevcummings on June 27, 2021, 08:49:51 PM
I believe there’re rapid solutions to problems, and Gamblers always want chances to improve their luck. I’ve seen some ethical gamblers some superstitious medal around their neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep their powers close when gambling or lighting candles and reciting some prayers.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on June 29, 2021, 07:15:26 PM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think
It's been what almost everyone I've known does before or while gambling,they must say a short prayer before staking,and the belief that the prayer will be answered most atimes makes them win.I personally think that one's prayer to any God before starting will determine his fate in the game.While some person's just don't believe making prayer before gambling and sees it as a waste.
I already saw someone carrying a talisman, use a ring, necklace, or even rabbit foot and they will say that is their luck. They feel confident when they use that thing, but that does not guarantee them winning the games. And if they lose, they will only say that it is their bad day and will come again the next day. Some gamblers will pray before gambling and that is really happening in some gambling places. Maybe we think that it does not make sense to pray or use a talisman, but they still wear it.
There have been a lot of studies regarding superstitions and the findings are simple enough, people are great at finding patterns, in fact we are so good at this that we find patterns even when there are no patterns to be found, people carry a good luck charm and when they win instead of simply thinking that luck favored them that day because they have been gambling a lot lately and it was something that sooner or later it would have happened they attribute the good day to an object or action, and from that moment on they will keep that charm at all times thinking it will bring them good luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on June 29, 2021, 08:19:46 PM
I believe there’re rapid solutions to problems, and Gamblers always want chances to improve their luck. I’ve seen some ethical gamblers some superstitious medal around their neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep their powers close when gambling or lighting candles and reciting some prayers.
Those are lucky charms and that's normal to see whenever you see a gambler. And that's the same as the prayers that they do.

It's just all about asking for more luck and nothing else.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 29, 2021, 08:48:28 PM
Gambling is a game of chance. It's not surprising that gamblers tend to believe in a higher power when they are on the table. If you have been gambling for a long time there will definitely be a point when  you'd need to believe in something....just to attract some luck. Every gamble has his own, could be a talisman, fortune cookies, a lucky coin, a ring or anything. It kinda boost one's confidence I think
It's been what almost everyone I've known does before or while gambling,they must say a short prayer before staking,and the belief that the prayer will be answered most atimes makes them win.I personally think that one's prayer to any God before starting will determine his fate in the game.While some person's just don't believe making prayer before gambling and sees it as a waste.
I already saw someone carrying a talisman, use a ring, necklace, or even rabbit foot and they will say that is their luck. They feel confident when they use that thing, but that does not guarantee them winning the games. And if they lose, they will only say that it is their bad day and will come again the next day. Some gamblers will pray before gambling and that is really happening in some gambling places. Maybe we think that it does not make sense to pray or use a talisman, but they still wear it.
There have been a lot of studies regarding superstitions and the findings are simple enough, people are great at finding patterns, in fact we are so good at this that we find patterns even when there are no patterns to be found, people carry a good luck charm and when they win instead of simply thinking that luck favored them that day because they have been gambling a lot lately and it was something that sooner or later it would have happened they attribute the good day to an object or action, and from that moment on they will keep that charm at all times thinking it will bring them good luck.
Simply agree with this on where even with the simplest thing on where someone could look on could potentially make out directly some patterns and believe out that was the source of luck on why they had win a particualr game without even realizing that was just all conincidence.

This kind of gambler behavior is a bit common or normal where we do stick up on things on where we do believe that it might be the reason for us to win specially if you do win up big hit on that particular day then you would be definitely remembering even on the slightest detail on what you had wore and done on that day.

Prayer and Charms has nothing to do with increasing your luck in playing gambling but since this had been turn out to be a default behavior then theres nothing we can do about it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 29, 2021, 09:16:02 PM
I believe there’re rapid solutions to problems, and Gamblers always want chances to improve their luck. I’ve seen some ethical gamblers some superstitious medal around their neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep their powers close when gambling or lighting candles and reciting some prayers.
Those are lucky charms and that's normal to see whenever you see a gambler. And that's the same as the prayers that they do.

It's just all about asking for more luck and nothing else.
^ Because there are some gamblers who were looking for a return of what they had prayed. It seems once they had prayed, they be able to win once they will gamble because that is what they ask for before they gamble. Probably there was a coincidence that you can able to make a profit after asking above about your winning. In my own, prayer belonged to the superstitious belief and this will not be taking any seriously. Nevertheless, we are free to do these things if we feel something miracle if we include them in our gambling activity.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lordhermes on June 29, 2021, 09:47:27 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tippytoes on June 29, 2021, 10:49:36 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

This is more of psychological feeling on things. Though prayer has nothing to do with the results. It is the belief that prayer can help you about your gambling results. So yes, it depends on the person himself. As everyone here has different beliefs and cultural upbringing, the opinions here vary. Just make sure that you are not harming anyone by your own personal beliefs.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: BuNga_cute on June 29, 2021, 11:12:57 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

This is more of psychological feeling on things. Though prayer has nothing to do with the results. It is the belief that prayer can help you about your gambling results. So yes, it depends on the person himself. As everyone here has different beliefs and cultural upbringing, the opinions here vary. Just make sure that you are not harming anyone by your own personal beliefs.

Therefore, I am one of those people who do not like to associate prayer with the gambling results that are obtained. But if there are people who
believe praying can affect the outcome of gambling, I won't blame them. Because as you said everyone has their own personal beliefs, we should
all be able to respect each other. Don't let differences of belief become problems and debates.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on June 30, 2021, 12:30:54 PM
I believe there’re rapid solutions to problems, and Gamblers always want chances to improve their luck. I’ve seen some ethical gamblers some superstitious medal around their neck or carry one in a mojo bag to keep their powers close when gambling or lighting candles and reciting some prayers.
Those are lucky charms and that's normal to see whenever you see a gambler. And that's the same as the prayers that they do.

It's just all about asking for more luck and nothing else.
^ Because there are some gamblers who were looking for a return of what they had prayed. It seems once they had prayed, they be able to win once they will gamble because that is what they ask for before they gamble. Probably there was a coincidence that you can able to make a profit after asking above about your winning. In my own, prayer belonged to the superstitious belief and this will not be taking any seriously. Nevertheless, we are free to do these things if we feel something miracle if we include them in our gambling activity.
That's only a coincidence.

Only a few religion that allows gambling to their members but most of the religions, they're contrary to gambling.

So if someone prays for his wins and he won, that's just a concidence and that makes him luckier than the others.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on July 02, 2021, 06:54:59 PM
There have been a lot of studies regarding superstitions and the findings are simple enough, people are great at finding patterns, in fact we are so good at this that we find patterns even when there are no patterns to be found, people carry a good luck charm and when they win instead of simply thinking that luck favored them that day because they have been gambling a lot lately and it was something that sooner or later it would have happened they attribute the good day to an object or action, and from that moment on they will keep that charm at all times thinking it will bring them good luck.
Simply agree with this on where even with the simplest thing on where someone could look on could potentially make out directly some patterns and believe out that was the source of luck on why they had win a particualr game without even realizing that was just all conincidence.

This kind of gambler behavior is a bit common or normal where we do stick up on things on where we do believe that it might be the reason for us to win specially if you do win up big hit on that particular day then you would be definitely remembering even on the slightest detail on what you had wore and done on that day.

Prayer and Charms has nothing to do with increasing your luck in playing gambling but since this had been turn out to be a default behavior then theres nothing we can do about it.
It is incredibly common especially among the regulars that you see at the casino, people will hold objects and rituals that according to them brings them luck but this is simply not true, luck cannot be manipulated and we know this is in fact a principle of the nature, so all of those people are just wasting their time by doing it but since it brings them calm and a sense of control they keep doing it even if deep down many know this has no effect on their gambling success.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Quidat on July 02, 2021, 08:21:33 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

This is more of psychological feeling on things. Though prayer has nothing to do with the results. It is the belief that prayer can help you about your gambling results. So yes, it depends on the person himself. As everyone here has different beliefs and cultural upbringing, the opinions here vary. Just make sure that you are not harming anyone by your own personal beliefs.
As long you dont harm anyone then i dont see anything wrong on someone do following something neither superstition belief or just simply praying to their Gods for them to win into their gambling activity.
I dont know why on why do really make this a big issue because this would really be varying on someones own belief because not all would really be having the same which means it can neither
they would believe or not but on general sense then theres no way for luck to be influenced by something specially in gambling or even on simple decisions on life.
If you do find out that when you do pray and won then its up to your experience and would continue on doing it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Silberman on July 05, 2021, 05:58:14 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

This is more of psychological feeling on things. Though prayer has nothing to do with the results. It is the belief that prayer can help you about your gambling results. So yes, it depends on the person himself. As everyone here has different beliefs and cultural upbringing, the opinions here vary. Just make sure that you are not harming anyone by your own personal beliefs.
As long you dont harm anyone then i dont see anything wrong on someone do following something neither superstition belief or just simply praying to their Gods for them to win into their gambling activity.
I dont know why on why do really make this a big issue because this would really be varying on someones own belief because not all would really be having the same which means it can neither
they would believe or not but on general sense then theres no way for luck to be influenced by something specially in gambling or even on simple decisions on life.
If you do find out that when you do pray and won then its up to your experience and would continue on doing it.
The issue is that while it is unlikely that they are going to harm anyone else with those beliefs it is possible they will harm themselves in the process, after all if they really believe they can affect the outcomes of the games by praying or by any other action on their part then it is possible they are going to make bets that are simply too high thinking that sooner or later they will win and recover the money they lost, only to lose it all since their beliefs about controlling the outcomes of the games were completely mistaken.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Mahanton on July 05, 2021, 07:19:34 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

This is more of psychological feeling on things. Though prayer has nothing to do with the results. It is the belief that prayer can help you about your gambling results. So yes, it depends on the person himself. As everyone here has different beliefs and cultural upbringing, the opinions here vary. Just make sure that you are not harming anyone by your own personal beliefs.
As long you dont harm anyone then i dont see anything wrong on someone do following something neither superstition belief or just simply praying to their Gods for them to win into their gambling activity.
I dont know why on why do really make this a big issue because this would really be varying on someones own belief because not all would really be having the same which means it can neither
they would believe or not but on general sense then theres no way for luck to be influenced by something specially in gambling or even on simple decisions on life.
If you do find out that when you do pray and won then its up to your experience and would continue on doing it.
The issue is that while it is unlikely that they are going to harm anyone else with those beliefs it is possible they will harm themselves in the process, after all if they really believe they can affect the outcomes of the games by praying or by any other action on their part then it is possible they are going to make bets that are simply too high thinking that sooner or later they will win and recover the money they lost, only to lose it all since their beliefs about controlling the outcomes of the games were completely mistaken.
Would vary on gamblers mindset because not all would be having the same behavior towards their gambling activity.Some would really be keen or good in handling out their funds allocated for gambling and there are some who do really likes to go all in whenever they do saw that they can really take advantage on a certain bet which i can say that it is a common behavior for most people who do engage with gambling.Prayer neither do works or not but i agree that prayer or divine things doesnt really connect out with gambling or even on simple request in life situation doesnt guaranteed that it would be granted.
Humans are way just easily to believe into something that it might work on the activity they are doing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pokapoka124 on July 10, 2021, 02:23:17 PM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

This is more of psychological feeling on things. Though prayer has nothing to do with the results. It is the belief that prayer can help you about your gambling results. So yes, it depends on the person himself. As everyone here has different beliefs and cultural upbringing, the opinions here vary. Just make sure that you are not harming anyone by your own personal beliefs.
As long you dont harm anyone then i dont see anything wrong on someone do following something neither superstition belief or just simply praying to their Gods for them to win into their gambling activity.
I dont know why on why do really make this a big issue because this would really be varying on someones own belief because not all would really be having the same which means it can neither
they would believe or not but on general sense then theres no way for luck to be influenced by something specially in gambling or even on simple decisions on life.
If you do find out that when you do pray and won then its up to your experience and would continue on doing it.
The issue is that while it is unlikely that they are going to harm anyone else with those beliefs it is possible they will harm themselves in the process, after all if they really believe they can affect the outcomes of the games by praying or by any other action on their part then it is possible they are going to make bets that are simply too high thinking that sooner or later they will win and recover the money they lost, only to lose it all since their beliefs about controlling the outcomes of the games were completely mistaken.
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on July 10, 2021, 02:42:07 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: john_nautica on July 10, 2021, 03:25:15 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.
Indeed. It is ironic how gamblers pray before placing bets whereas in the Bible, there are teachings that talk about the sin being made by the people when they get involved in gambling and any other vices. But of course, we all have no rights to judge other people since we all have our fair of committing sins, we all have equally sinned.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: pawanjain on July 10, 2021, 03:32:36 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.

I have read somewhere that the what one wishes for, happens if he truly desires for it.
Also, we have indominate powers within ourselves and sometimes what we pray does come true.
Not sure if it's just luck but I guess this is why some people pray before anything.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bitzizzix on July 10, 2021, 03:51:24 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.

I have read somewhere that the what one wishes for, happens if he truly desires for it.
Also, we have indominate powers within ourselves and sometimes what we pray does come true.
Not sure if it's just luck but I guess this is why some people pray before anything.
Yes, what I experienced was that praying before gambling could bring me victory because I could play in a relaxed, calm and free manner and everything could be controlled well.
prayer can only bring calm in playing and we can control ourselves in playing and there is only a different air, not because God gives full victory but only getting calm in playing which will facilitate the opportunity to win, and it all depends on the desired prayer and it's good ask for peace in playing and so on.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pokapoka124 on July 10, 2021, 04:09:00 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.

I have read somewhere that the what one wishes for, happens if he truly desires for it.
Also, we have indominate powers within ourselves and sometimes what we pray does come true.
Not sure if it's just luck but I guess this is why some people pray before anything.
Yes I have read that too. Power of the universe I believe is what it's called. Some people do practice these principles and see results in their daily life


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: dbc23 on July 10, 2021, 05:44:06 PM
People sticks to what works for them. Most gamblers do diabolic things before placing a bet some go as far as during rituals so seeing people of a different orientation bowing their head to mutter words before placing a bet shouldn't really be a thing of much surprise because most times it works for them with massive wins


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: YuginKadoya on July 10, 2021, 06:13:35 PM
I think this is just a way for them to increase luck but the is no scientific evidence that it might work and there is no spiritual evidence that prayers will be answered when you are asking to win on gambling, because in my bible study experience, GOD will not favor you win winning with gambling, oftentimes it is only a work of luck and a coincidence, but people are doing so, maybe to get their luck increase or sometimes this is the way they believe in, but for this kind of people still respect is the best way for you to respond for what they are believing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lanatsa on July 10, 2021, 07:42:32 PM
People sticks to what works for them. Most gamblers do diabolic things before placing a bet some go as far as during rituals so seeing people of a different orientation bowing their head to mutter words before placing a bet shouldn't really be a thing of much surprise because most times it works for them with massive wins
And we know that those are just purely coincidence because there's no such thing on making those rituals do really connected on how lucky you are on a particular day when you do play gambling.

The only thing or reason on why they do really stick out on a certain behavior is that when the time that they do make out those prayers or rituals or something like that is that they do able to win

and of course as a human being you would definitely believe directly that it did really work and on next time for sure you would really be using the same rituals or prayers and that would really be

sticking in someones head for a lifetime.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on July 10, 2021, 09:43:02 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.

I have read somewhere that the what one wishes for, happens if he truly desires for it.
Also, we have indominate powers within ourselves and sometimes what we pray does come true.
Not sure if it's just luck but I guess this is why some people pray before anything.
The law of wishing? I guess sometimes that's true but not most of the time. It can be a coincidence and that's why others are praying for the best of their results.
But it all sums up that what you've said and all of those expectations whether you pray or not, it's luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: palle11 on July 14, 2021, 05:54:51 AM
One's belief over something has something to do with you.The moment you belief something works for you, and you heed to that particular thing,it will surely work.Same is applicable to gambling,if you always win when you say  a prayer,the moment your mind is on that thing and trust it,there is every possibility tgat, that particular game will play you person.

When you used the word belief here, you not referring to believe which meaning believing in something to either happen but this belief is referred to belief system which is usually talking about religion.

So now with the right and appropriate word believe which is hoping that something to happen in a simple "man" understanding , I don't expect it to be over luck when it comes to gambling. IMO luck relates to gambling more than believe. This is why most gambling companies or sites associate with luck and in gambling jingles you hear for example ; one more lucky chance , which means you have to be considered lucky to get a ticket to play, qualify to play or to win as it may be the case. Therefore, I think gambling is highly a chance game and chance is about luck, not believe or believing. Just an opinion I think I should share.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on July 14, 2021, 06:17:07 AM
I think this is just a way for them to increase luck but the is no scientific evidence that it might work and there is no spiritual evidence that prayers will be answered when you are asking to win on gambling, because in my bible study experience, GOD will not favor you win winning with gambling, oftentimes it is only a work of luck and a coincidence, but people are doing so, maybe to get their luck increase or sometimes this is the way they believe in, but for this kind of people still respect is the best way for you to respond for what they are believing.
This is about freedom in belief and faith, as long as they don't do any harm then it won't be a problem. Also, we are free to ignore or respect them because after all, praying before betting will not make us lose or win because winning and losing depends on hard work and luck. So even though they pray but still, they must have a great effort too and pray, it becomes a confidence booster for those who do it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AicecreaME on July 14, 2021, 02:11:47 PM
There is a popular saying amongst gamblers that says "Let the odds be in our favor" irrespective of religious beliefs people say this to themselves because of the reassuring feeling it gives them. Does it make things work in their favor? I honestly can't say but at the same time I can't discourage such rituals
As long as those rituals doesn't hurt anybody and the gambler is doing it for his sake without any interruption to other people. The odds will be definitely in the favor of the gambler if he's truly lucky on that day.
But we'll never know if such prayers have been answered on that day but it just contradicts religious aspects if it's connected with gambling.

I have read somewhere that the what one wishes for, happens if he truly desires for it.
Also, we have indominate powers within ourselves and sometimes what we pray does come true.
Not sure if it's just luck but I guess this is why some people pray before anything.
Yes I have read that too. Power of the universe I believe is what it's called. Some people do practice these principles and see results in their daily life

It's called Law of attraction, they say. Positive thoughts attracts positive things, while negative thoughts attracts negative things, so if you're thinking you could win without any doubt on yourself, it might increase your chance your winning, or not, it's all about trial and error in my opinion because we can't control the outcome of the game.

There's no harm on believing on it, other's choose to do other things in able to win in gambling. The conclusion is that we have different ways on how to deal with ourselves mindset.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pamadar on July 14, 2021, 02:28:10 PM
I think this is just a way for them to increase luck but the is no scientific evidence that it might work and there is no spiritual evidence that prayers will be answered when you are asking to win on gambling, because in my bible study experience, GOD will not favor you win winning with gambling, oftentimes it is only a work of luck and a coincidence, but people are doing so, maybe to get their luck increase or sometimes this is the way they believe in, but for this kind of people still respect is the best way for you to respond for what they are believing.
This is about freedom in belief and faith, as long as they don't do any harm then it won't be a problem. Also, we are free to ignore or respect them because after all, praying before betting will not make us lose or win because winning and losing depends on hard work and luck. So even though they pray but still, they must have a great effort too and pray, it becomes a confidence booster for those who do it.

Good point and that's how freedom for everyone works, if they feel praying before gambling

then let them do their rituals, I like how you point it out that nothing will happen to us if we let them do what they wanted to do from

their sides, if they feel the needs of praying before they place their bets, anyway, it's their money and it won't harmed ours after they
pick and place whatever types of games they gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: pawanjain on July 14, 2021, 03:39:16 PM
It's called Law of attraction, they say. Positive thoughts attracts positive things, while negative thoughts attracts negative things, so if you're thinking you could win without any doubt on yourself, it might increase your chance your winning, or not, it's all about trial and error in my opinion because we can't control the outcome of the game.

There's no harm on believing on it, other's choose to do other things in able to win in gambling. The conclusion is that we have different ways on how to deal with ourselves mindset.

Yes that's exactly what it is. Positive thoughts do attract positive results. Although we can't control the outcome of the game, we can still hope to be on the winning side.
There's no harm in praying as it won't increase our chances of losing at all. May be this is why people still continue to pray before the game whether or not they believe in it.
If they win, they think their prayer worked while if they lose they just call it as a bad luck.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: $crypto$ on July 14, 2021, 03:58:06 PM
then let them do their rituals, I like how you point it out that nothing will happen to us if we let them do what they wanted to do from

their sides, if they feel the needs of praying before they place their bets, anyway, it's their money and it won't harmed ours after they
pick and place whatever types of games they gamble.
The ritual is indeed now as a belief in ourselves by praying anything can be granted with his confidence including in making the gambling bets he wants.

I don't think it's new for sure in their hearts they always pray when the game starts because it's a hope that if they're lucky, then they will be more confident, there's even a bad thing, then fate and destiny won't go well so they still keep trying with that prayer. .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 14, 2021, 05:29:24 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Many options, beliefs and others enter the game, in my country people sometimes turn to certain types of people who resort to certain forces given by the spirits but not precisely to play or gamble but to find out about other people, or even to know. their future, but I really believe that each person should handle the belief of it, I have not seen the first case that they go to a witch who predicts a score for some sports game, but it fits the possibilities.

If people play a lot, they are likely to use many of the tools that are available to them, some are not so believing and are based only on statistics, but I think it has a lot to do with people seeking this kind of help.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lakai01 on July 14, 2021, 05:36:32 PM
The ritual is indeed now as a belief in ourselves by praying anything can be granted with his confidence including in making the gambling bets he wants.
-snip-
I think the right word here is "ritual" anyway. It doesn't matter if someone prays, stands up during a penalty shootout because he believes that his team will lose if he doesn't or players demand that their mascots perform a certain dance because it has brought luck in the past.... Thus, almost everyone has a certain ritual before games start to which he adheres and hopes to win through it.

Of course, this usually has no influence on the outcome of the game, but it's not called "faith can move mountains" for nothing ;)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: batako on July 14, 2021, 05:40:28 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

It's just a kind of superstition. It can increase confidence before we start betting. But, it will not affect the outcome of the gambling that we will do. We did it just to find good confidence before we starts doing something like most people does in other activities. I also own some superstitions, including prayer.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: poldanmig on July 14, 2021, 06:07:17 PM
every effort we make must of course begin with prayer so that everything we do can get good results in the end, but I don't know if praying will also have a good impact if we do it in gambling? because in my opinion almost all religions exist Forbidding his followers to gamble and in religious scriptures also say gambling is a bad behavior and in my opinion maybe in gambling only luck can help us to win, even if there are gamblers who pray of course the gambler will ask for luck to him.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 14, 2021, 07:25:36 PM
every effort we make must of course begin with prayer so that everything we do can get good results in the end, but I don't know if praying will also have a good impact if we do it in gambling? because in my opinion almost all religions exist Forbidding his followers to gamble and in religious scriptures also say gambling is a bad behavior and in my opinion maybe in gambling only luck can help us to win, even if there are gamblers who pray of course the gambler will ask for luck to him.
Im not against on what you do believe about praying since this had been a common behavior on most people where they do attached up divine things on everything that they do.

So its not surprising that they would really be attaching up on gambling wins too so its up on someones personal belief on things and i dont see anything wrong with that.

Some saying that its just dumb to do that since prayer doesnt really work on this stuff but how about on other stuff as well? there would be no guarantee.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: passwordnow on July 14, 2021, 07:51:55 PM
every effort we make must of course begin with prayer so that everything we do can get good results in the end, but I don't know if praying will also have a good impact if we do it in gambling? because in my opinion almost all religions exist Forbidding his followers to gamble and in religious scriptures also say gambling is a bad behavior and in my opinion maybe in gambling only luck can help us to win, even if there are gamblers who pray of course the gambler will ask for luck to him.
That's the thing, the religions are disagreeing with gambling so if you do pray for better results in gambling, they won't say that it will be answered.
But as an individual, you can do whatever you want. You pray, you get a ritual, you wear your favorite color, every means that you think that you'll be getting luck as long as you don't harm other people, that's going to depend on you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Davidvictorson on September 08, 2021, 04:59:24 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

I think it comes natural to folks who grew up in a religious environment. Of course, they know that God doesn't care about gambling but they pray anyway because it brings some sort of comfort to them. I believe that even folks who are irreligious would also say something or the other before betting hoping that they win. Ever wonder why these folks go back to place a bet on a game again even after their prayers and a loss from the previous bet?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oshosondy on September 08, 2021, 06:25:28 AM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
This thread is already long but I have not replied here before and I think my reply is just a life experience about what I have noticed about prayer and gambling. I noticed if I move closer to God, I win more than when I do not, if I pray more, I win also, but I always think this is just normal thing and luck, I do not pray because I want to gamble because if I lose, there could be a thinking that God make me lose it when God is not the one that says I should gamble, I just gamble without praying because I am not that type. People praying before gambling to me is not what that will determine their winning or losses, what will happen will happen, what they need most is the knowledge and experience about how to win, taking gambling not as business and also not as profession but just as fun and entertainment because gambling is not what worth praying about.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: UmerIdrees on September 08, 2021, 06:46:50 AM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
This thread is already long but I have not replied here before and I think my reply is just a life experience about what I have noticed about prayer and gambling. I noticed if I move closer to God, I win more than when I do not, if I pray more, I win also, but I always think this is just normal thing and luck, I do not pray because I want to gamble because if I lose, there could be a thinking that God make me lose it when God is not the one that says I should gamble, I just gamble without praying because I am not that type. People praying before gambling to me is not what that will determine their winning or losses, what will happen will happen, what they need most is the knowledge and experience about how to win, taking gambling not as business and also not as profession but just as fun and entertainment because gambling is not what worth praying about.

When you say that you pray to god that you win in gambling makes me wonder which religion do you belong ? Most religions prohibits gambling's so how can you ask God for a win which is totally not allowed in the first place.

For my experience, no one pray to win in gambling, people just randomly win or lose based upon their luck factor.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tz on September 08, 2021, 06:54:21 AM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on September 08, 2021, 07:31:36 AM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.
I'm not sure about that, because if most religions don't condone gambling, then how come gambling itself can grow in so many countries with different religions and cultures as well?
I would probably believe if, most religions forbid gambling then gambling would not grow. But what happened is very different from the reality because even gambling has entered the realm of business which of course there are still many religions that do not prohibit gambling, right?
Therefore, when they pray in gambling then maybe their religion doesn't forbid gambling, so there is nothing wrong about that because they have different beliefs too and we will not know about their religious affairs.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Shamm on September 08, 2021, 07:45:59 AM
  Prayer in Gambling it's a funny thing , maybe it's an awkward or they just really need to pray for just  to win the game. Some gambler are scared specially if they are new in Gambling they will never take a risk so some of them they prayed just in case they can win. But I think the spiritual of God will never enter cause we all know that thing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: virasog on September 08, 2021, 11:09:12 AM
 Prayer in Gambling it's a funny thing , maybe it's an awkward or they just really need to pray for just  to win the game. Some gambler are scared specially if they are new in Gambling they will never take a risk so some of them they prayed just in case they can win. But I think the spiritual of God will never enter cause we all know that thing.

If you are emotionally attach with your religion then it will really work for you and you will find it will bring good luck to you. There is no harm in praying and get help from god to help you in winning. The only thing you need to be careful is that do not take too much risk or any such thing. First play your best with proper risk management and then pray to god for a win.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Natalim on September 08, 2021, 11:20:55 AM
 Prayer in Gambling it's a funny thing , maybe it's an awkward or they just really need to pray for just  to win the game. Some gambler are scared specially if they are new in Gambling they will never take a risk so some of them they prayed just in case they can win. But I think the spiritual of God will never enter cause we all know that thing.

If you are emotionally attach with your religion then it will really work for you and you will find it will bring good luck to you. There is no harm in praying and get help from god to help you in winning. The only thing you need to be careful is that do not take too much risk or any such thing. First play your best with proper risk management and then pray to god for a win.
Just be realistic all the time, knowing the risk is more important than believing that you will win, because if God will grant all the gamblers wishes, then probably people will be lazy because everyone can make money in gambling, and no gambling operators will survive if that's the case.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: KTChampions on September 08, 2021, 11:29:11 AM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.

I think that everyone understands this, even those who deeply believe in something supernatural. But the main goal of prayer is not to achieve a result due to something supernatural, but to achieve psychological calmness. This is important for those who play for big money and are worried about the result.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oshosondy on September 08, 2021, 02:42:03 PM
When you say that you pray to god that you win in gambling makes me wonder which religion do you belong ? Most religions prohibits gambling's so how can you ask God for a win which is totally not allowed in the first place.

For my experience, no one pray to win in gambling, people just randomly win or lose based upon their luck factor.
You did not read my post correctly, let me quote the most important part below and you can read it again, I hope you will not get me wrong next time. Why would someone pray because of gambling, that is completely not making any sense. Gambling should just be taken for the fun of it, even if I lose, how much do I lose, just a little amount of money that can not affect me in any way. I am not new to gambling at all, I know how things operate while talking about gambling.

This thread is already long but I have not replied here before and I think my reply is just a life experience about what I have noticed about prayer and gambling. I noticed if I move closer to God, I win more than when I do not, if I pray more, I win also, but I always think this is just normal thing and luck, I do not pray because I want to gamble because if I lose, there could be a thinking that God make me lose it when God is not the one that says I should gamble, I just gamble without praying because I am not that type. People praying before gambling to me is not what that will determine their winning or losses, what will happen will happen, what they need most is the knowledge and experience about how to win, taking gambling not as business and also not as profession but just as fun and entertainment because gambling is not what worth praying about.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ipanks on September 08, 2021, 03:21:07 PM
 Prayer in Gambling it's a funny thing , maybe it's an awkward or they just really need to pray for just  to win the game. Some gambler are scared specially if they are new in Gambling they will never take a risk so some of them they prayed just in case they can win. But I think the spiritual of God will never enter cause we all know that thing.
We can say that is funny but that happens to many people out there because some people who commit a crime can also pray before they do that. They believe that praying to GOD can feel confident and play easily without thinking if their religion prohibits gambling. Besides that, it is just a personal matter that is not related to other gamblers and we can not blame them why they pray to GOD before they gamble.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Zilon on September 08, 2021, 04:29:49 PM
  Prayer in Gambling it's a funny thing , maybe it's an awkward or they just really need to pray for just  to win the game. Some gambler are scared specially if they are new in Gambling they will never take a risk so some of them they prayed just in case they can win. But I think the spiritual of God will never enter cause we all know that thing.
People could just be religious in anything they do and sometimes their beliefs might just work out for them. But prayers before placing a bet works out atimes. I know of a friend who claims most of the games he stakes he received the odds from dreams and shows proves of winning from those games. Maybe it could be a system that might work out for another considering that everyone has their own luck


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oshosondy on September 08, 2021, 05:53:07 PM
But prayers before placing a bet works out atimes.
I do not think so, everything about bet should not involve prayer, people praying before betting are most likely to become addicts to gambling. Gambling should just be for the fun of it regardless of winning or losses, it shouldn't go to the extent of someone thinking it is a way of making money because that is the reason someone can be so emotional to pray about it.

I know of a friend who claims most of the games he stakes he received the odds from dreams and shows proves of winning from those games. Maybe it could be a system that might work out for another considering that everyone has their own luck
Dreaming is not praying, though they can be connected but they are different, or the person prayed to his God to dream about the clubs to win?  ::)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Furious 7 on September 08, 2021, 06:41:02 PM
But prayers before placing a bet works out atimes.
I do not think so, everything about bet should not involve prayer, people praying before betting are most likely to become addicts to gambling. Gambling should just be for the fun of it regardless of winning or losses, it shouldn't go to the extent of someone thinking it is a way of making money because that is the reason someone can be so emotional to pray about it.
Indeed, this is not in the right place to involve prayer just for betting while we think this is just for fun, so I think prayer should not be considered a joke just because of something that has not yet determined success, so gamblers will do things for their victory, even prayer for them can for success.
In terms of religion, this is prohibited, but I know that gambling is rational for many people, so I don't involve any prayer in gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: retreat on September 08, 2021, 06:41:07 PM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.

but most of us unknowingly experience that delusion!!

Praying while gambling without realizing it is done by most people but when they win or lose they forget it! I never pray when gambling because I am well aware that it is an act that is prohibited by my religion "lol


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: coupable on September 08, 2021, 07:34:08 PM
On the other note, some religions prohibit gambling, so praying on the win might not be the best idea. Also, though I'm not really an expert, but I think that according to religious beliefs prayers are meant for something important, like the health and life of your family, and so on. So I think such actions might be taken as blasphemy because the only thing gambling can bring us is money, and there are much more important things than money in life.
This is a good point !
I automatically thought about Islam as the most known religion that prohibits all kinds of gambling. Except few islamic countries where some gambling activities are held by the government, in all the rest of the islamic (arabic in particular) countries gambling is forbidden by law. However, a large number of gamblers comes from those countries where people have to pray five times per day from sunrise pray until dinner pray; those people lives in an extreme schizophreny between the poursuit for luxury with gambling winnings and their spiritual beliefs which consist that God is responsible for all the good luck if you win but he also responsible for loss as a sort of penalisation (they can't ignore it). As religion interfers in people activities, gambling and Islam are two contradictory things in the head of every muslim gambler .
In my locval board (which is arabic), many users don't hesitate to swear by god or to use relegious expressions while they promote a gambling platform in their signatures .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: worldofcoins on September 08, 2021, 08:48:48 PM

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?


I am happy you asked the question!

Long ago people were able to communicate without the telephone just through their mental connection, Yes these are considered supernatural powers now but it was quite common back then.
Spirituality in short means you have to master the 5 elements and be able to manipulate them, Your body is built up of 5 elements that are - Ether, Water, Fire, Earth, Air -

Now you would wonder how is it linked?
Then my answer is - Everything's energy and Vibrates at Atomic-level including your Body technically, Including Chakras and ancients knew this, ofc aliens or Gods that visited the earth gave them this knowledge. It is all about manipulating stuff at the atomic level or lower than that.
Our consciousness is not materialistic and somehow our consciousness is inside this body which has chakras (Energy fields) || Wherever the energy is more dominant, you perceive life according to that.

Now in physical everything happens on an energy level so if you Vibrate at a very high frequency then things will most likely go according to your way and that's the reason people use different mantras (They're pure vibrations that affect certain parts of the body and energy fields [Chakra])

So gods will not directly manipulate the market but your vibrations affects things even if you can't see them and everything in this world is connected.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on September 08, 2021, 10:28:35 PM
We can say that is funny
Funny in a manner that others find it because gambling is against majority of the religions that are existing.

but that happens to many people out there because some people who commit a crime can also pray before they do that.
This is way crazier than gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Desmong on September 08, 2021, 10:31:13 PM
People sticks to what works for them. Most gamblers do diabolic things before placing a bet some go as far as during rituals so seeing people of a different orientation bowing their head to mutter words before placing a bet shouldn't really be a thing of much surprise because most times it works for them with massive wins
I think our are definitely right because anything tat works for you would be what you will always do to keep your mind on top. Although I don't know if there is any connection between gambling and prayers but I've also seen people praying when they have a tough time without winning, then praying would trigger there chances of winning the bet which I could assume that it could be luck. Sometimes when luck brings fortune, many will thinks tat it's prayer that was conducted before there attempt.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: fortunecrypto on September 08, 2021, 11:08:04 PM


I think that everyone understands this, even those who deeply believe in something supernatural. But the main goal of prayer is not to achieve a result due to something supernatural, but to achieve psychological calmness. This is important for those who play for big money and are worried about the result.

Yes, I agree prayer is both meditative and positive it enhances your mind to think clearly and calmly because your mindset is that you are guided to win, you are positive to win the game and you accept whatever results in it will bring you good or bad, I don't see anything wrong in praying while gambling I have seen a lot of lottery bettors here in our place who ask for guidance from the Almighty for lucky numbers and besides we honoring the existence of God.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: passwordnow on September 08, 2021, 11:12:45 PM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.
Yep, that's actually won't change anything but only the result for those people that are believers with what religion they belong. It's just like that it's about the belief of the gambler and trying to increase the chances of winning. Some may say that it's effective to them because it happened once or twice but if we're going to correlate it with numbers, yes, that's the fact that it won't change the result and the odds as it's live there and won't be moved by any gambler. Somehow the prayers are all about the winning of the team or player they bet on specific sports.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Shasha80 on September 08, 2021, 11:30:28 PM


I think that everyone understands this, even those who deeply believe in something supernatural. But the main goal of prayer is not to achieve a result due to something supernatural, but to achieve psychological calmness. This is important for those who play for big money and are worried about the result.

Yes, I agree prayer is both meditative and positive it enhances your mind to think clearly and calmly because your mindset is that you are guided to win, you are positive to win the game and you accept whatever results in it will bring you good or bad, I don't see anything wrong in praying while gambling I have seen a lot of lottery bettors here in our place who ask for guidance from the Almighty for lucky numbers and besides we honoring the existence of God.

There is nothing wrong with praying to ask for ease and goodness for ourselves. The problem is that not all religions and beliefs allow gambling.
So when our religion forbids us to gamble and we keep praying it sounds really weird to me. Maybe your religion doesn't prohibit gambling,
so you are very comfortable doing that. For me praying for victory in gambling only makes the mind uneasy, so I never pray for victory in gambling.
I also play gambling for entertainment, so winning is only a bonus for me, not a priority.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on September 11, 2021, 06:18:58 AM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.

but most of us unknowingly experience that delusion!!

Praying while gambling without realizing it is done by most people but when they win or lose they forget it! I never pray when gambling because I am well aware that it is an act that is prohibited by my religion "lol
Yes, it is prohibited in most religions but we can not deny the fact that some gamblers always pray before they gamble because they hope, with pray, they can win some money. It is human nature to forget about what they did before after they got something and if they win in gambling games, they will consider to say that is my luck winning some money. But the truth is they pray before they play gambling and they do not admit it. Maybe they feel that if they admit it, some people or friends will say that praying for winning gambling is prohibited in their religions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: delfastTions on September 11, 2021, 06:30:14 AM

Praying while gambling without realizing it is done by most people but when they win or lose they forget it! I never pray when gambling because I am well aware that it is an act that is prohibited by my religion "lol
By the way, this applies not only to gambling (but of course it applies to them).  When a person prays about some event and it happens, he quickly forgets about his prayer and the help of the Almighty.  And he believes that it should be so.  And so on until the next event and turning to prayer, then again forgets.  And this sequence accompanies all conscious life.  
But, yes, praying for winning a gambling game is wrong.  
Because this is a prayer for self-interest and profits and is discouraged in most religions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on September 11, 2021, 06:39:27 AM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.
I'm not sure about that, because if most religions don't condone gambling, then how come gambling itself can grow in so many countries with different religions and cultures as well?
I would probably believe if, most religions forbid gambling then gambling would not grow. But what happened is very different from the reality because even gambling has entered the realm of business which of course there are still many religions that do not prohibit gambling, right?
Therefore, when they pray in gambling then maybe their religion doesn't forbid gambling, so there is nothing wrong about that because they have different beliefs too and we will not know about their religious affairs.
There is a confusion here. The confusion of Grace and luck. Most religion don’t even condone gambling. They discredit gambling and think of it as the work of the Devil. Because if more than half the religions forbids a certain thing, I think there’s something wrong about that thing. Some people might pray to their god or anything that they worship before playing a bet. If the the outcome comes out positive, they think their god answered their prayer and they keep doing that. Personally, that’s LUCK. It just naturally happened. But some will think you’re graced to win a certain bet or something. Gambling is a game of luck. Because most religion Prohibit on gambling so I think it is not a good thing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Shamm on September 11, 2021, 07:17:29 AM
 Prayer in Gambling it's a funny thing , maybe it's an awkward or they just really need to pray for just  to win the game. Some gambler are scared specially if they are new in Gambling they will never take a risk so some of them they prayed just in case they can win. But I think the spiritual of God will never enter cause we all know that thing.
We can say that is funny but that happens to many people out there because some people who commit a crime can also pray before they do that. They believe that praying to GOD can feel confident and play easily without thinking if their religion prohibits gambling. Besides that, it is just a personal matter that is not related to other gamblers and we can not blame them why they pray to GOD before they gamble.


I think religion doesn't matter in gambling ,. When you pray before you play then the end of the game you will win then I think it is coincidence .because if it is not  then all gamblers are draw because they will pray before they play


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: TheNineClub on September 11, 2021, 09:06:03 AM
For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ChiBitCTy on September 11, 2021, 01:45:30 PM
LOL it is funny that there are people in here who literally believe that prayer or believing in god or gods has anything to do with the outcome of anything period.  I am not saying there isn't a god out there somewhere, because I truly have no idea, but the absolute most likely truth when it comes to fate is that it's much more likely than not that none of the Gods we know are likely to be real.  Even if the gods we know are real, why the hell would they help you win money..because you prayed to them lol.  That is not how it works.  This is all pretty silly.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Cling18 on September 11, 2021, 03:47:27 PM
For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.

Sounds sarcastic but true. No matter how and whom we pray to, if it isn't our luck to win in gambling, then we couldn't win it because if prayer is powerful even in gambling, then religious and prayerful gamblers should've been rich now. Gambling has nothing to do with our religious beliefs.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: madnessteat on September 11, 2021, 04:49:50 PM
For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.

Sounds sarcastic but true. No matter how and whom we pray to, if it isn't our luck to win in gambling, then we couldn't win it because if prayer is powerful even in gambling, then religious and prayerful gamblers should've been rich now. Gambling has nothing to do with our religious beliefs.

I know many Muslims who pray before important work. Prayer, whether it is asking for something or praising God, is a kind of ritual to lift one's spirit, motivation, concentration and attention. If someone believes that prayer helps them, why not? Each of us has our own religious views and preferences.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fortify on September 11, 2021, 05:02:43 PM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

How is anyone meant to answer the question "did it work?" - bets have simple probabilities attached to them, sometimes long shots will pay off but the bookmaker is using statistical analysis to try to predict the outcome, it's not some kind of voodoo magic. If you are praying when placing a bet then you are likely doing something wrong and should probably hold on to your money instead. You might get lucky once but it will be offset by the dozens of other times when the odds were heavily stacked against you. Most people are placing small bets that are not life changing amounts and over time the house will have the advantage to bleed you dry.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on September 11, 2021, 05:37:18 PM
LOL it is funny that there are people in here who literally believe that prayer or believing in god or gods has anything to do with the outcome of anything period.  I am not saying there isn't a god out there somewhere, because I truly have no idea, but the absolute most likely truth when it comes to fate is that it's much more likely than not that none of the Gods we know are likely to be real.  Even if the gods we know are real, why the hell would they help you win money..because you prayed to them lol.  That is not how it works.  This is all pretty silly.

Yeah I think this is still reasonable. even a sinner and a crime may also pray before doing the action. that only belief makes a person feel better and confident to do something. when it comes to facts, there is absolutely no connection between prayer and gambling. like someone using lucky charm and so on.



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on September 11, 2021, 09:45:42 PM
Yeah I think this is still reasonable. even a sinner and a crime may also pray before doing the action. that only belief makes a person feel better and confident to do something. when it comes to facts, there is absolutely no connection between prayer and gambling. like someone using lucky charm and so on.
In religions perspective, they'll call this nuts and crazy. But it's true that there are those people that before taking actions that are prohibited, they're praying for its success.
They don't think if it's bad for them but they also have their own belief that's why they pray.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oilacris on September 11, 2021, 09:58:05 PM
Yeah I think this is still reasonable. even a sinner and a crime may also pray before doing the action. that only belief makes a person feel better and confident to do something. when it comes to facts, there is absolutely no connection between prayer and gambling. like someone using lucky charm and so on.
In religions perspective, they'll call this nuts and crazy. But it's true that there are those people that before taking actions that are prohibited, they're praying for its success.
They don't think if it's bad for them but they also have their own belief that's why they pray.
I dont see any bad effects of praying on doing gambling but rather only the thing that they do believe that they would be lucky just because they do pray which is really a very wrong kind of perception.

In general sense, we do talk about being lucky and this is something that cant really be influenced by anything even you do pray and no matter how you do then you do still end up on having random
results towards gambling activity.

Just let them be into those people do really believe that prayer is significant.As long they dont put themselves which results to addiction then it should be fine.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: iTradeChips on September 11, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
Whatever you call it, prayer, meditation, and others, what the person is doing is that he is trying to motivate himself in doing the act of betting and gambling and by motivating one self he can get the courage to roll the dice or start playing the game. It does not really mean that the spirits will support his prayer and make him win right. It is really giving oneself a sign that everything will be alright and that it is ok for him to start playing. That is how I perceive it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: paxmao on September 11, 2021, 10:19:55 PM
Interestingly, whether you believe on a superior force, being, god or gods or you believe that we are just dust in the universe, the answer is pretty much the same. Praying to ask a favour from the gods does not really make sense. They are supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient in most religions, and if you believe in some short of universe Karma, it is probably far too busy to notice whatever little egotistic interest you have in mind when you pray from a favour. It is senseless to ask something from a god.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Ebede on September 11, 2021, 10:32:50 PM
If you feel prayer works for you, why not stop Gambling and get your hands doing better things ?
This might be someone's else's believe, maybe be it works,maybe it's just as a result of luck, or careful analysis of the games you picked.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: TinaK on September 11, 2021, 10:41:54 PM
Whatever you call it, prayer, meditation, and others, what the person is doing is that he is trying to motivate himself in doing the act of betting and gambling and by motivating one self he can get the courage to roll the dice or start playing the game. It does not really mean that the spirits will support his prayer and make him win right. It is really giving oneself a sign that everything will be alright and that it is ok for him to start playing. That is how I perceive it.
Every one of us has a different belief in life, if you think prayer will bring you some luck then that is fine, that is your life and no one cares about what thing to do. For me, prayers are just courage to everyone who will gamble and there is nothing wrong if you are doing this while in gambling because that is your belief as I said. On other insight, they are not good because gambling and prayer are totally different as they said gamblers are also a sinner but that is what they believe and different when it comes to ours.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: 7788bitcoin on September 11, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
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There is a confusion here. The confusion of Grace and luck. Most religion don’t even condone gambling. They discredit gambling and think of it as the work of the Devil. Because if more than half the religions forbids a certain thing, I think there’s something wrong about that thing. Some people might pray to their god or anything that they worship before playing a bet. If the the outcome comes out positive, they think their god answered their prayer and they keep doing that. Personally, that’s LUCK. It just naturally happened. But some will think you’re graced to win a certain bet or something. Gambling is a game of luck. Because most religion Prohibit on gambling so I think it is not a good thing.
What a bunch of bull crap, so you think gambling is bad because of your religion? I am not religious and i do not follow a like a herd and follow everything due to some bullshit crap written centuries ago. There is no such think as the devil or god to begin. Only people can behave like a devil or a god depending on their character. There are multiple forms of gambling and there are luck based and then there are skill based gambling. The choice is yours which one to select and there is multiple forms of gambling you can choose from.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on September 11, 2021, 10:57:10 PM
Yeah I think this is still reasonable. even a sinner and a crime may also pray before doing the action. that only belief makes a person feel better and confident to do something. when it comes to facts, there is absolutely no connection between prayer and gambling. like someone using lucky charm and so on.
In religions perspective, they'll call this nuts and crazy. But it's true that there are those people that before taking actions that are prohibited, they're praying for its success.
They don't think if it's bad for them but they also have their own belief that's why they pray.
I dont see any bad effects of praying on doing gambling but rather only the thing that they do believe that they would be lucky just because they do pray which is really a very wrong kind of perception.

In general sense, we do talk about being lucky and this is something that cant really be influenced by anything even you do pray and no matter how you do then you do still end up on having random
results towards gambling activity.

Just let them be into those people do really believe that prayer is significant.As long they dont put themselves which results to addiction then it should be fine.
There's actually no bad effect when a gambler prays. It's just that in the perspective of religious people that sees him, it's odd. We all knew how religions work.
As long as the gambler doesn't have any others to hurt with what they do, pray and whatever deed they are doing, yeah, let them be.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Quidat on September 11, 2021, 11:00:22 PM
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There is a confusion here. The confusion of Grace and luck. Most religion don’t even condone gambling. They discredit gambling and think of it as the work of the Devil. Because if more than half the religions forbids a certain thing, I think there’s something wrong about that thing. Some people might pray to their god or anything that they worship before playing a bet. If the the outcome comes out positive, they think their god answered their prayer and they keep doing that. Personally, that’s LUCK. It just naturally happened. But some will think you’re graced to win a certain bet or something. Gambling is a game of luck. Because most religion Prohibit on gambling so I think it is not a good thing.
What a bunch of bull crap, so you think gambling is bad because of your religion? I am not religious and i do not follow a like a herd and follow everything due to some bullshit crap written centuries ago. There is no such think as the devil or god to begin. Only people can behave like a devil or a god depending on their character. There are multiple forms of gambling and there are luck based and then there are skill based gambling. The choice is yours which one to select and there is multiple forms of gambling you can choose from.
There are religion which does have bad impression or really doesnt like involvement on gambling.Well its their religion and lets just respect on how they do treat or those bad views on it.
People does have different impressions on things some are way too religious and some doesnt really care and they do come into that extent on where they do apply it on gambling
which they do believe that they could really be lucky if they do pray and once that particular day make out some big wins then thats the time they do really fixed up their mind
that it is working.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: michellee on September 12, 2021, 03:41:49 AM
If you feel prayer works for you, why not stop Gambling and get your hands doing better things ?
This might be someone's else's believe, maybe be it works,maybe it's just as a result of luck, or careful analysis of the games you picked.
Stopping gambling will be the best thing you can do and do something else that can help you to leave gambling, especially if you only lose money many times. At one moment, someone can feel bored, have a losing experience many times and want to stop gambling for a while. But those who pray to God before playing gambling will feel different from other people who do not know how it feels. Maybe that thing is not an effect for us, but we can not stop them from praying to God.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: molsewid on September 12, 2021, 07:02:02 AM
I dont see any bad effects of praying on doing gambling but rather only the thing that they do believe that they would be lucky just because they do pray which is really a very wrong kind of perception.

In general sense, we do talk about being lucky and this is something that cant really be influenced by anything even you do pray and no matter how you do then you do still end up on having random
results towards gambling activity.

Just let them be into those people do really believe that prayer is significant.As long they dont put themselves which results to addiction then it should be fine.

Personally speaking I don't see any wrong about it since we have our own freedom what to do before gambling and it's our own personal choice. I mean when in terms of religious perspective this is unethical because gambling is one of the prohibited activities in terms of religious practice but we can't blame a person's action when he choose to pray before betting maybe because it's his last money to bet and wanted to get win before he leaves a betting site or what else. At the end of the day we don't know the reason behind each person do that thing and maybe it is not too much to show them respect and let them do what they wanted to do.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on September 12, 2021, 07:11:22 AM
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Are you a buddhist?

I've known people on that religion that prays to have good luck as they gamble and they always do that before they gamble. I've seen one how they do it personally so it's not really questionable if you do that.



Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: btc78 on September 12, 2021, 07:16:41 AM


Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?



I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
there is no one argue why you pray but of course there are others that don't believe in God or Saints meaning they may be disappointed when people are having like what you are doing.

faith at some point are indeed with others  but in some this does not exist because they believe that gambling is not part of beliefs instead it is for luck and strategy combined .

If you feel prayer works for you, why not stop Gambling and get your hands doing better things ?
This might be someone's else's believe, maybe be it works,maybe it's just as a result of luck, or careful analysis of the games you picked.
just respect what others do believe and focus on your own, there are no barriers on what we must do so respect is the most thing to do.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: pawanjain on September 12, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
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There is a confusion here. The confusion of Grace and luck. Most religion don’t even condone gambling. They discredit gambling and think of it as the work of the Devil. Because if more than half the religions forbids a certain thing, I think there’s something wrong about that thing. Some people might pray to their god or anything that they worship before playing a bet. If the the outcome comes out positive, they think their god answered their prayer and they keep doing that. Personally, that’s LUCK. It just naturally happened. But some will think you’re graced to win a certain bet or something. Gambling is a game of luck. Because most religion Prohibit on gambling so I think it is not a good thing.
What a bunch of bull crap, so you think gambling is bad because of your religion? I am not religious and i do not follow a like a herd and follow everything due to some bullshit crap written centuries ago. There is no such think as the devil or god to begin. Only people can behave like a devil or a god depending on their character. There are multiple forms of gambling and there are luck based and then there are skill based gambling. The choice is yours which one to select and there is multiple forms of gambling you can choose from.

Personally, I think the same. Even I don't believe things when people say it's written somewhere in a book written by someone centuries ago.
We can't simply believe something written which can be easily manipulated. Following something is an individual's choice  and although we don't accept something like a herd we should not disrespect other people's beliefs.
But yeah, gambling is definitely something based on luck. If you are lucky you win else you lose.
God won't be sitting somewhere just to wait for you to pray so that God can grant him the wish. Again, praying is just a habit that people have developed over the years and doesn't mean God is hearing you.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: UmerIdrees on September 12, 2021, 02:40:42 PM
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Are you a buddhist?

I've known people on that religion that prays to have good luck as they gamble and they always do that before they gamble. I've seen one how they do it personally so it's not really questionable if you do that.



Not only buddhist pray but there are many other religions who pray to their god. I am a Muslim and i also pray to God as he is the one who have given us life and he controls everything.

However we don't pray for winning in gambling and all such stuff related to gambling / speculation etc.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Saint-loup on September 12, 2021, 03:43:16 PM


Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?



I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
You shouldn't do that because it's dangerous, it implicitly convinces you that you have an influence on the outcome of the game and tends to encourage you to make irresponsible bets. You should be more careful about your actual probabilities of winning the bet and your bankroll management instead, otherwise you're facing big losses unfortunately.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 12, 2021, 04:39:46 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Smartprofit on September 12, 2021, 05:46:05 PM


Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?



I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.

I respect your position. 

However, in my opinion, prayer is a very important thing.  In fact, you are asking God to change something in this world (on our planet Earth). 

People are not omniscient.  Our ability to know the world is very limited.  Therefore, our appeal to God is initially very arrogant and impudent.  If it is important to us, he can heed our request.  But if this is nothing, then it is quite another matter ...

Gambling is entertainment.  At certain times in our lives, gambling can be important.  But in general, this is nonsense.  There are much more important things. 

Therefore, I believe that there is no need to pray for winning gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Dragonfund on September 12, 2021, 06:27:45 PM
If you think that praying will give you better odds, you're delusional.

Most religions don't condone gambling so why the hell would they respond to prayers in gambling? That absolutely makes no sense.

But empirically there is no correlation - everything is mathematically determined and has nothing to do with your psychology, and the odds are stacked against you due to that.

Core gamblers are the type that is always difficult to persuade and are always the prayerful type, but they are also the ones with the highest probability of winning, the odds are always in their favour, and they are always prayerful, but their belief that gambling a small amount of money will make them rich overnight is a willful delusion. How do you expect to earn thousands of dollars with a single wager and prayer? They are extremely familiar with every bet, but the fact is that they need more money to obtain more money unless they are the kind to come across that unusual luck in gambling.
Coming to the prayer part, you know how we as humans prefer to hope when we are anticipating anything. Instead of tossing a coin, they would rather hope on prayer to determine their faith and mankind has always hope in God and hence, this may not be mathematically proven but it helps many people and eases their way through difficult times. Some claim that prayer works for those who believe; if you believe in stone, it may be your guide amid difficult decision-making and anxiety.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Raflesia on September 12, 2021, 06:37:52 PM
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Are you a buddhist?

I've known people on that religion that prays to have good luck as they gamble and they always do that before they gamble. I've seen one how they do it personally so it's not really questionable if you do that.
Not only buddhist pray but there are many other religions who pray to their god. I am a Muslim and i also pray to God as he is the one who have given us life and he controls everything.

However we don't pray for winning in gambling and all such stuff related to gambling / speculation etc.
Because Islam forbids it for people to gamble, so some of our activities in gambling, I think praying is not necessary because what we know is that this is a violation of religious rules.

But I always pray when doing something good, even at every step to be given health by the almighty god.

But in gambling I never do.
What I do is just focus when betting.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: crzy on September 12, 2021, 09:55:16 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.
Don’t see anything wrong here since we all have beliefs and we have to respect it, though this may look greedy for me but still, this is a gambling choice and honestly, we always pray for a positive result even on our trading activities so technically, we pray to get what we want but in reality we should not expect that much by just praying, you still have to act.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 12, 2021, 11:55:53 PM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.
Don’t see anything wrong here since we all have beliefs and we have to respect it, though this may look greedy for me but still, this is a gambling choice and honestly, we always pray for a positive result even on our trading activities so technically, we pray to get what we want but in reality we should not expect that much by just praying, you still have to act.

i think most people do this act as it is already part of his routine. pray when you want something, even if it is not according to the teachings of his religion. as you said, just respect each other's beliefs. so long you are not harming anyone, you're fine. it is your own life anyway.
but tbh, prayer doesn't influence your gambling results. it is just psychological effect on some people who won and attested that they prayed hard for it.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Alisha-k on September 13, 2021, 06:05:59 AM
Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Gosgosking on September 13, 2021, 07:38:06 AM
Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Praying and and betting works. What you believe works for you


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 07:42:45 AM
Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are
Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: hahay on September 13, 2021, 07:52:38 AM
Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are
Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.
You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on September 13, 2021, 08:07:03 AM
Everyone has the right to their own belief. I know despite your religion there is a way of doing your own meditation and prayer which could be different from another gambler, and they are times you just need to win a bet and you unconsciously do some mediatation before placing a bet and trusting some divine power to assist your effort with a win. I guess every gambler encounters this at some point despite your what your beliefs are
Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.
You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.
Yeah, I'm always lucky on bets, and I didn't say or do any prayers before betting. I don't pray just to win a bet because, first and foremost, I believe it's wrong because we're the ones who decide our faith in this world through our actions, so if we're having a losing streak, it's our fault, and prayers that aren't heard aren't to blame because it has nothing to do with gambling in the first place, and it won't increase the probability of winning.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: robelneo on September 13, 2021, 09:07:40 AM

Those prayers were never answered, they were just coincidental and it's just a way of human mind to cope with things because everyone is desperate for meaning and they want to find at least one in any situation.
If you are a devout and a religious man you do not expect that all prayers will be answered, it's better to be just thankful and let the Almighty decides what's best for you, it's ok to pray when you are rolling dice, there's no unwanted prayer when we pray we testify the existence of the Almighty, I do this sometimes when playing and in dire need of winning but I never expect to win, win or lose I accept the results, it's gambling it could go either way.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: alpamar99 on September 13, 2021, 09:40:59 AM

Yeah I think this is still reasonable. even a sinner and a crime may also pray before doing the action. that only belief makes a person feel better and confident to do something. when it comes to facts, there is absolutely no connection between prayer and gambling. like someone using lucky charm and so on.


maybe for some people such an action is still in a reasonable stage and it's legal but if we look at it from a religious perspective which incidentally is still considered very sacred by some people, of course, I think this can be said to be unethical because at least they are still understand between sin and not (in religion).
and in some religions gambling is not allowed which in that sense is a sin.
logically if you refer to it alone, it would be very illogical to commit a sin but pray first.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 13, 2021, 09:47:29 AM
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?
I pray a lot and I'm also praying when placing a bet or rolling a dice, it doesn't matter if I win or not the most important is I am putting faith in my belief and the almighty, you can pray in any situation any place and any condition, it's beneficial in both body and mind and I don't see anything wrong why you should pray when gambling.
Yes, indeed. There will be up to you or people whether they want to pray to God and ask for help to win the games or never pray to God when they are gambling. If they believe that can help them and give them confidence, they can still pray without listening to what other people say. When we play gambling, we are free to do what we want, as long as we do not break the rule in the casino.
Don’t see anything wrong here since we all have beliefs and we have to respect it, though this may look greedy for me but still, this is a gambling choice and honestly, we always pray for a positive result even on our trading activities so technically, we pray to get what we want but in reality we should not expect that much by just praying, you still have to act.
Yes, nothing wrong here. It is about different perceptions about praying in gambling or just playing gambling without praying because with or without praying, we still do not know if we can win the game or lose the game. Gambling is just a show and we are part of it and out of that, that will be up to every person and as long as it is okay with them, it will not be a problem at all.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 10:12:20 AM
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You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: alegotardo on September 13, 2021, 10:49:05 AM
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

People who have faith in something are more likely to get something.
Even for those who don't believe that "something else" can intervene for you, praying gives the person more motivation to try to reach that goal and we know that this is very important to achieve a result.

Of course, in gambling this can be more bad than good because if we are on a losing streak, sticking to the game can cause us to lose everything faster.
The best thing in these cases is to pray away from the computer.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on September 13, 2021, 11:48:28 PM
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.
Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: xSkylarx on September 14, 2021, 02:56:51 AM
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.
Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

Agreed, and there's nothing wrong with it because it can boost your morale and faith, both of which can lead to good fortune. There are gamblers who purchase tokens or other items that they hope will bring them luck, such as a totem. They hope to find a totem that will bring them luck and boost their confidence in playing, much like praying. Though anything you do while gambling is acceptable, cheating  is not.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: traderethereum on September 14, 2021, 07:03:01 AM
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You never know what kind of prayer is answered and not, and therefore I think whether the result is win or lose it doesn't matter anymore. In fact, when you don't pray the result will still be the same whether you win or lose. So in this case, whatever they believe in and pray or not, it won't matter either because it is about belief and not about the result whether the prayer is answered or not.
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.
Yes, it is no problem if we want to pray or not because that will be up to us.
Some people prefer to pray before gamble while other playing gambling without praying.
Besides that, when someone prays before gamble, I do not think another gambler will know because that person can pray from inside his heart and never telling to other people.
So that does not matter to pray before gambling and if it is related to gambling, everyone knows that gambling is prohibited in most religions.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: boyptc on September 14, 2021, 08:59:57 AM
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.
Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.

Agreed, and there's nothing wrong with it because it can boost your morale and faith, both of which can lead to good fortune. There are gamblers who purchase tokens or other items that they hope will bring them luck, such as a totem. They hope to find a totem that will bring them luck and boost their confidence in playing, much like praying. Though anything you do while gambling is acceptable, cheating  is not.
Yes.

It really boosts the morale of those gamblers that do it. But for me, I don't do it because my faith is different and I don't want to attach it with gambling.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: coupable on September 14, 2021, 03:38:48 PM
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.
Well, as you see that there really are gamblers that do mix it.

It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.
Agreed, we are not responsible for others beliefs but in this case we just ignore them (like we didn't see it) because we deeply think that it's not logic and can be defined as another kind of betting. Yes those relegious gamblers  bet on a much then bet that thei god will give a help hand; if he wins then god loves him and this is why he helped him and if he loses this means that god is angry and won't ever win if god doesn't interfer. A kind of Psychological satisfaction especially when he is about to lose a money that he can't afford to lose .

Just saying :)


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ninkdwi on September 14, 2021, 04:00:50 PM
For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.

Sounds sarcastic but true. No matter how and whom we pray to, if it isn't our luck to win in gambling, then we couldn't win it because if prayer is powerful even in gambling, then religious and prayerful gamblers should've been rich now. Gambling has nothing to do with our religious beliefs.

I know many Muslims who pray before important work. Prayer, whether it is asking for something or praising God, is a kind of ritual to lift one's spirit, motivation, concentration and attention. If someone believes that prayer helps them, why not? Each of us has our own religious views and preferences.
But if you see from the Muslim rules myself I think it doesn't really suit it even seems more degrading if we pray but do that is not good and prohibited in the religion. Because in Muslims there are a lot of prohibition in several aspects including gambling, and praying before which is indeed a sacred ritual will certainly demean the sacredness of the religion.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: milewilda on September 14, 2021, 08:12:12 PM
For a second there I thought this was a topic about putting bets on who's prayers will get answered XD I'd actually go for that. As for praying for results, I doub't God watches the third Iranian women's basketball division.

Sounds sarcastic but true. No matter how and whom we pray to, if it isn't our luck to win in gambling, then we couldn't win it because if prayer is powerful even in gambling, then religious and prayerful gamblers should've been rich now. Gambling has nothing to do with our religious beliefs.

I know many Muslims who pray before important work. Prayer, whether it is asking for something or praising God, is a kind of ritual to lift one's spirit, motivation, concentration and attention. If someone believes that prayer helps them, why not? Each of us has our own religious views and preferences.
But if you see from the Muslim rules myself I think it doesn't really suit it even seems more degrading if we pray but do that is not good and prohibited in the religion. Because in Muslims there are a lot of prohibition in several aspects including gambling, and praying before which is indeed a sacred ritual will certainly demean the sacredness of the religion.
Lets just respect because every religion does have its own prohibitions and other things but on general sense having prayer attached to gambling is a personal kind of choice or perception and no one could really stop
you if you do ever consider on having that kind of belief in mind.Thing here is that you do believe into something that it works but honestly it has nothing to do with activities that we are involved in to specially in gambling.
Luck is something that cant really be influenced by prayer but once you do make out some prayer and you won then we would already believe that it is working.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lucasgabd on September 14, 2021, 09:27:53 PM
really interesting topic  ;D
it reminds me of a Brazilian music by "emicida" which sings: "it's crazy how it almost never works, but pray"

tricky one since sometimes it could all be just a big coincidence, but in this case won't hurt either so, why not?


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: blockman on September 14, 2021, 10:09:15 PM
maybe for some people such an action is still in a reasonable stage and it's legal but if we look at it from a religious perspective which incidentally is still considered very sacred by some people, of course, I think this can be said to be unethical because at least they are still understand between sin and not (in religion).
and in some religions gambling is not allowed which in that sense is a sin.
logically if you refer to it alone, it would be very illogical to commit a sin but pray first.
On the side of religions, this isn't really good and cannot be tolerated. But, they can do something with that? no, they can't. Are they going to abandon the person they caught praying and gambling at the same time? for what? they won't.
In reality, it's a thing that's being done for many things before doing it and people tend to do that because they're not religious but because they also have a belief in life that it will make them have a good result but it's up to the One that they pray for if their prayers will be heard but with this discussion, it's unlikely that He won't.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 15, 2021, 06:54:47 PM
Prayers don't work if you don't work towards achieving it and I don't think that praying and gambling is a thing that's never ever going to mix, the people who do those kind of things are just making sense and trying to remove their responsibility when it comes to gambling and losing.

People who have faith in something are more likely to get something.
Even for those who don't believe that "something else" can intervene for you, praying gives the person more motivation to try to reach that goal and we know that this is very important to achieve a result.

Of course, in gambling this can be more bad than good because if we are on a losing streak, sticking to the game can cause us to lose everything faster.
The best thing in these cases is to pray away from the computer.

I am not a fan of praying to win in the game, as I understand that the things of commerce and games are very different from what has to do with God the Heavenly Father, but I do know many players who are in my country who attend séances For those spirits to show them the way in games of chance, the truth is that their results are very varied, if they usually win, but later I see them that they fall into vice or are in bad conditions, really these things in my view are very delicate and these types of energies should not be mixed because sometimes it is not known what type of energy can expand, generally the results are bad.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lucasgabd on September 15, 2021, 08:40:42 PM
really interesting topic  ;D
it reminds me of a Brazilian music by "emicida" which sings: "it's crazy how it almost never works, but pray"

tricky one since sometimes it could all be just a big coincidence, but in this case won't hurt either so, why not?
We can really try and there’s no bad in praying, just don’t expect that much because most of the gamblers are also praying to win. We also have this culture since we’re a Catholic country majority of us, so we’re praying for everything including to win in gambling, and there’s no bad effect of this one just don’t depend on it and accept that in gambling, luck is still the key to win.

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Mahanton on September 15, 2021, 09:18:22 PM
really interesting topic  ;D
it reminds me of a Brazilian music by "emicida" which sings: "it's crazy how it almost never works, but pray"

tricky one since sometimes it could all be just a big coincidence, but in this case won't hurt either so, why not?
We can really try and there’s no bad in praying, just don’t expect that much because most of the gamblers are also praying to win. We also have this culture since we’re a Catholic country majority of us, so we’re praying for everything including to win in gambling, and there’s no bad effect of this one just don’t depend on it and accept that in gambling, luck is still the key to win.

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion
That would be a big question which should really be answered yet we do pray on the same God which means who would really be favored out?This simply implies that prayer wont really fit out on asking out some luck
or winning chance in gambling or even in simple things in life that do involve some decisioning because we cant really tell if there are divine intervention or involvement on every outcome or results that
we do encounter thats why we shouldnt really mind off that much that it is really that connected but it isnt really bad if you do have this kind of beliefs.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Fredomago on September 15, 2021, 10:00:56 PM

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion

Make me smile when you ask that question  ::)? playing the same game and pray with same god? The one who wins received favor than the other, which implies that the one who win have a much deeper faith inside him.. Hahahah ;D :D

But the fact remains the same, there are people who are doing this. They have a supernatural belief that if they pray to some god, the winning chance will increase even there's no proven explanation or any relative information about this.

More on self claimed and for some, they just misinterpret luck to whatever things they believe in.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Oshosondy on September 16, 2021, 06:49:41 AM
It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.
People believes in God but they should not think it is their God that will help when it comes to gambling, even some religions like the Muslims are against gambling while even many other religions that do not against it do not encourage it, gambling should not in any way be related to prayer because many people will be disappointed if they are expecting something good to come out. But I do not still believe some people can be praying all because they want to gamble, gambling is just for fun and not a way of making money or what someone should take serious.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Chato1977 on September 16, 2021, 07:31:11 AM
It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.
People believes in God but they should not think it is their God that will help when it comes to gambling, even some religions like the Muslims are against gambling while even many other religions that do not against it do not encourage it, gambling should not in any way be related to prayer because many people will be disappointed if they are expecting something good to come out. But I do not still believe some people can be praying all because they want to gamble, gambling is just for fun and not a way of making money or what someone should take serious.
It is between their beliefs and trust and faith , Gamblers are in different culture and they have different Gods and how they treat them.
But for me in the end of everything? it is the Luck that brings them win and nothing to do with their Gods.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: poldanmig on September 16, 2021, 07:52:52 AM
It depends on their belief and on our belief. If they think that it's going to help them, are we going to stop them? we just let them what they think is going to help them increase their chance of winning.
People believes in God but they should not think it is their God that will help when it comes to gambling, even some religions like the Muslims are against gambling while even many other religions that do not against it do not encourage it, gambling should not in any way be related to prayer because many people will be disappointed if they are expecting something good to come out. But I do not still believe some people can be praying all because they want to gamble, gambling is just for fun and not a way of making money or what someone should take serious.
It is between their beliefs and trust and faith , Gamblers are in different culture and they have different Gods and how they treat them.
But for me in the end of everything? it is the Luck that brings them win and nothing to do with their Gods.

You right,  for people who have a religion of course praying before doing something is an obligation for them regardless of whatever actions they do, praying in my opinion will give us strength and also peace so that it will certainly increase our confidence, I've seen several people even tried a special ritual before gambling but I don't know if it will help them win or not.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Pierre 2 on September 16, 2021, 08:24:55 AM
When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets. I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: rodskee on September 16, 2021, 08:56:50 AM
When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets. I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.
At least you realized that your Grandma is a Liar lol, She is pretending to be praying but the truth is Not and also She is only relying in what the outcome of the event and not totally in what Her faith does.
it is like our elders tell us about ghost but the truth is they don't even seen one but they let us believe just to scare us everytime they wanted us to do something or follow them in their strict rules .


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ipanks on September 16, 2021, 12:04:55 PM
When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets. I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.
Some old gamblers can pray before they place their bet and among them, that is normal as they already did that from a long time ago. And if someone asked them why they did that, that old gambler will tell me that I need to pray to my God and hope my favorite team can win. But from your story, I think you are not alone because I think some gamblers will say the same as you and want to donate some to needy people. I think that will not be a problem and that will be up to them.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: tabas on September 16, 2021, 12:23:53 PM
When I was little kid I always asked my grandmum to pray for my favorite team and she would accept. Anytime they lose she would say "I forgot to pray that's why they lost" or if they win she would say "I prayed for them of course they would win". I told this story because when I grew up I realized praying is nothing more than finding reason for your long seek success. I regularly pray before my bets.
Nice and good story that you've experienced when you were a little kid. Your grandma was just telling you that to give you some relief. I used to have some relatives that's also like that but it's not about gambling and praying. But to that point that has a similarity of your story.
I am always like "I will donate some please God" even if I am atheist. It makes you feel better.
Well, everyone can pray regardless of your belief.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bitzizzix on September 16, 2021, 01:09:13 PM
It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory and there are also those who do not pray to God before playing gambling because gambling is haram, if you pray you will definitely lose or bring bad luck.
different from mantra or spiritual because it is a prayer outside of religious teachings and not good even though it will bring victory, in my opinion victory in gambling is not because of prayer but how people play it and master the game by playing without ambition and emotion and so on and playing calmly.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: Lucasgabd on September 16, 2021, 02:49:10 PM

I talked about it sometimes here but its not always luck, of course it plays a role but some games like poker are way more skill games than luck games
regarding praying, if we both play the same game and pray for the same god, god would favor one instead of the other? based on what?

totally worth watching this Indian movie on Netflix: PK
quite interesting takes on Religion

Make me smile when you ask that question  ::)? playing the same game and pray with same god? The one who wins received favor than the other, which implies that the one who win have a much deeper faith inside him.. Hahahah ;D :D

But the fact remains the same, there are people who are doing this. They have a supernatural belief that if they pray to some god, the winning chance will increase even there's no proven explanation or any relative information about this.

More on self claimed and for some, they just misinterpret luck to whatever things they believe in.

haha part of me agrees that when we think of it rationally makes no sense
but after reading "Autobiography of a Yogi" and having some out of body experiences part of me also believes in faith...

it's nice to be immersed on duality some times.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: ShowOff on September 16, 2021, 04:36:14 PM
I have faith that prayer is the recommended thing to support success in action. But I don't think I have to pray to win the bet, this is very unnatural to me as I would obviously be guilty of my religious advice. I won't, and I'm just betting to please myself in my spare time. I just enjoy the game. Actually I am not too ambitious to win bets because this way can prevent me from spending a lot of money to enjoy the game. Having a limit is one that is recommended regardless of winning or losing.

It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory....
True, this really depends on each individual and his beliefs of spiritual.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: bL4nkcode on September 16, 2021, 05:10:11 PM
In my place, oldies assumed gambling is supposed a devil's influence, so praying god for a win is basically contradicting and instead, you just pray for the devils to get a win. Well, that's nothing to do to other places, I bet, as beliefs are different in every place and culture. 
Though I never prayed while gambling, I just rely on my luck as always.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: CaVO32 on September 16, 2021, 08:26:14 PM
I have faith that prayer is the recommended thing to support success in action. But I don't think I have to pray to win the bet, this is very unnatural to me as I would obviously be guilty of my religious advice. I won't, and I'm just betting to please myself in my spare time. I just enjoy the game. Actually I am not too ambitious to win bets because this way can prevent me from spending a lot of money to enjoy the game. Having a limit is one that is recommended regardless of winning or losing.

It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory....
True, this really depends on each individual and his beliefs of spiritual.

With this aspect, I think, just respect each other's beliefs as mentioned many times. We have our own ways how to approach gambling, and some are really praying for the hope that they will win. It may be against their religion but everyone has their own freewill when it comes to this kind of practice. We have different religions here and it is all up to you how you live your life, so long you are not bothering anyone.


Title: Re: Prayer and gambling.
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 16, 2021, 08:35:34 PM
I have faith that prayer is the recommended thing to support success in action. But I don't think I have to pray to win the bet, this is very unnatural to me as I would obviously be guilty of my religious advice. I won't, and I'm just betting to please myself in my spare time. I just enjoy the game. Actually I am not too ambitious to win bets because this way can prevent me from spending a lot of money to enjoy the game. Having a limit is one that is recommended regardless of winning or losing.

It all depends on each other's beliefs and there are also those who pray before playing gambling which is believed to be able to help in achieving victory....
True, this really depends on each individual and his beliefs of spiritual.

With this aspect, I think, just respect each other's beliefs as mentioned many times. We have our own ways how to approach gambling, and some are really praying for the hope that they will win. It may be against their religion but everyone has their own freewill when it comes to this kind of practice. We have different religions here and it is all up to you how you live your life, so long you are not bothering anyone.
You are right!

This is something not a bothersome thing because we do have our own free will even though it is prohibited on some people due to religion but still they do decide to deal with it because they do like to then its their
personal choice and they are the ones who do commit such mistakes.

Prayer and gambling isnt really that correlated nor does affect winning chance thats why i could say that it isnt really that needed.