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June 24, 2021, 08:03:02 AM |
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Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win. Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose.
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Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.
Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? Did it work?
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio. If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Who the gods will favor is a rhetorical question that deserve no specific answers. The gods will need to be neutral in this scenerio and everyone need to take responsibility of their decisions without blaming the gods because a winner must surely come out from the two teams. Maybe God should not be brought into this cause the possibility of a team winning depends on luck, work input and strategies that is used. I've always been in this kind of state time comes time goes, whereby I just always accepted my fates since every gambler prayers is to win bets, not nobody want to lose.
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June 24, 2021, 08:35:06 AM |
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Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose. I don't have qualms with the people who pray before gambling but I don't personally find the appeal of that because you are trying to appeal to something that doesn't exist. Luck is debatable because I don't really believe in it because gambling is full of probability and odds.
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June 24, 2021, 08:37:55 AM |
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I can't remember if I was able to pray while gambling, maybe I can't call it prayer but just a request. In other types of gambling and non -sports betting such as bingo, lotteries, scratch cards, etc., there are other types of gambling that are still related to sports, but you do not bet on the team but the numbers or results of the scores. . For me, spiritual being has nothing to do with whether or not you win the gamble. Maybe others are just in the habit of saying thank you in advance for what they believe regardless of the outcome of their bet.
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June 24, 2021, 09:52:16 AM |
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Gambling has nothing to do with God,one doesn't need to pray for it to happen,it happens according to what you played and according to how lucky you are on a particular game.I have prayed most atimes when I'm staking a ga me and it never worked for one day.People believe it works when they happen to win a game not knowing it's coincidence.
Some people actually believe in praying when Gambling. But I don't think prayer can makes someone to win when gambling. Although, I have once prayed over a bet which I placed, but I lost. Winning a bet Is all about Luck, not praying or predictions.
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June 24, 2021, 10:18:00 AM |
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Some people actually believe in praying when Gambling. But I don't think prayer can makes someone to win when gambling. Although, I have once prayed over a bet which I placed, but I lost. Winning a bet Is all about Luck, not praying or predictions.
Probably someone who bet on the opposite result prayed more diligently ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) By the way, I know that some churches have such a paid service - to pray for someone, I wonder if they are ready to pray for any sports performance and will such a service be in demand among gamblers?
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June 24, 2021, 01:49:49 PM |
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Exactly, you win not because God answered your prayer but because you're lucky. We should not connect the outcome of the game to what we prayed for, certainly its a coincidence if ever we win or its really meant to happen. Stop relying to what we dont see if we gamble, our knowledge, skills snd luck are the key to maximize our chance to win and hit the jackpot.
It's not luck that made you win, it's mathematics and probability that made you win in gambling, we just consider it lucky because we can't fathom the numbers and it's too small to consider although you are right that it's not God that made you win. Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose. Prayer is not the answer of winning. Even in every game what you play in life, but prayer is everything but we cannot use it in gambling. You can still do it but we cannot use that as our security to win. If people doesn't want to lose more than what they can afford then simply play with the amount that they can afford to lose and don't expect that your prayer will help you in your every games. Being lucky is also a good time for us to win although kittygalore is right that the mathematics and probability can also be the one who made us win, maybe you should have them both, luck and probability to make us win.
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June 24, 2021, 02:27:30 PM |
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Both answer is right. People will just see that is because of luck so they consider that it is the luck that help them win the games. Besides that, many things that help them but they do not realize so people will hope that their luck will come to them when they gamble. But prayer before gambling will not be a problem and some people will still doing that even if the result is lose. I don't have qualms with the people who pray before gambling but I don't personally find the appeal of that because you are trying to appeal to something that doesn't exist. Luck is debatable because I don't really believe in it because gambling is full of probability and odds. Yes, we can feel like that but I doubt that is what other people will feel because when they start praying, they will feel better and gamble without hard feeling and hopefully, they can also accept whatever the result later. Although luck is debatable, luck is the important thing that every gambler should have, and they need to realize that. I agree that gambling is full of probability and odds, which is the thing that luck will play.
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June 24, 2021, 03:31:36 PM |
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I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.
It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Of course it can be done and I gave full instructions about how to do it, the experiment is a personal one and not a discussion about how people are supposed to pray, they only need to do what they do at the casino when they are wishing for the odds and the results to change in their favor, if they do this and they find no difference with the control sample then the conclusion is easy, praying does not influence the results no matter how hard they ask for it. Are you trying to tell me that your suggestion on how to do it is scientifically sound? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) lol... If it is all about wishing, then who doesn't wish for the outcome that makes the player win? This cannot objectively be tested. Anyway, who cares. Let the people pray and believe they can outcompete the house just by praying, good luck holy people!
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June 24, 2021, 08:15:06 PM |
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I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.
It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Of course it can be done and I gave full instructions about how to do it, the experiment is a personal one and not a discussion about how people are supposed to pray, they only need to do what they do at the casino when they are wishing for the odds and the results to change in their favor, if they do this and they find no difference with the control sample then the conclusion is easy, praying does not influence the results no matter how hard they ask for it. Are you trying to tell me that your suggestion on how to do it is scientifically sound? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) lol... If it is all about wishing, then who doesn't wish for the outcome that makes the player win? This cannot objectively be tested. Anyway, who cares. Let the people pray and believe they can outcompete the house just by praying, good luck holy people! This is just also my mindset on just let them be because we do have our own things that do believe in life which means each of us would really be different when it comes to those things that we do approach.We do really have that wishful thinking which would really be the reason for people to make out those kind of praying behavior which i cant really blame them off because once we do get engage with then we would really be having those kind of mindset that we should really be lucky and that wishful thinking ending up on this kind of action.
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June 24, 2021, 09:43:15 PM |
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In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks. Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
Gambling wins are usually based on luck and skill, not based on prayer ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think we should use prayer only for other things, in the holy book there is no prohibition against gambling, it's just that in the general public gambling is a form of sin. A prayer is a form of our request to God and it's really strange if we ask God to win the gamble lol.
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June 24, 2021, 10:05:30 PM |
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In gambling, only luck plays a vital role apart from the player's instinct, knowledge, and gameplay for few games. Apart from these prayer will just help to keep calm while gambling which is also important while you gamble especially during poker because not always it will go as the player thinks. Even if one does not have luck with calmness with them would do wonders as seen live on tables.
Gambling wins are usually based on luck and skill, not based on prayer ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think we should use prayer only for other things, in the holy book there is no prohibition against gambling, it's just that in the general public gambling is a form of sin. A prayer is a form of our request to God and it's really strange if we ask God to win the gamble lol. ^ Definitely right, but it really matters on us, in our faith and also our religious belief but think it over of what in the holy book said that the gambling is a part of sin and why you will ask to the above if this is a sin. However, we can't blame them for what they believe, that is their life anyway and they are free to do everything they want. But probably wishing someone and hoping that you will win on which game did you gamble will probably the right way for this, not by prayer.
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Gambling wins are usually based on luck and skill, not based on prayer ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think we should use prayer only for other things, in the holy book there is no prohibition against gambling, it's just that in the general public gambling is a form of sin. A prayer is a form of our request to God and it's really strange if we ask God to win the gamble lol. That is correct if you will take it literally but it's not the thing here. A gambler already knows that praying won't give influence to their desire but that was just a form of guidance as luck is not a thing that you can get even you to want. Since they are already gambling with risk then they will also risk for chances if someone ABOVE will listen to them thru praying. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Let those people just pray and we shouldn't bother about that.
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June 24, 2021, 10:25:32 PM |
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Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe. You have to remember that gambling is paying for entertainment and while some people use it in an attempt to get rich it doesn’t change the fact that you are paying for entertainment. Leave God out of your debauchery.
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June 24, 2021, 10:57:35 PM |
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Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe.
It depends on someone's belief. If in his/her belief that praying doesn't deserve to include in gambling, it shouldn't be a part of gambling. While if in his/her belief that praying is something usual in the game like gambling, so just go to pray in gambling. Actually, this something shouldn't be debated because basically the choice of an individual. I don't know why many people debate it here although they know it is the right of the individual.
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June 24, 2021, 11:03:09 PM |
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Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe.
It depends on someone's belief. If in his/her belief that praying doesn't deserve to include in gambling, it shouldn't be a part of gambling. While if in his/her belief that praying is something usual in the game like gambling, so just go to pray in gambling. Actually, this something shouldn't be debated because basically the choice of an individual. I don't know why many people debate it here although they know it is the right of the individual. People would believe into something that he had proven out that it had worked on him or basing up with real life experience and all would really be believing into something if they had done it on the past. Is there something we can do? No, because its just normal for a human reaction to have this kind of behavior whenever we do make something and it turns out to work then we would surely be having that kind of belief. Prayer neither could work or not but honestly divine things has nothing to do with gambling.
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June 25, 2021, 11:19:05 AM |
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Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe. You have to remember that gambling is paying for entertainment and while some people use it in an attempt to get rich it doesn’t change the fact that you are paying for entertainment. Leave God out of your debauchery.
It depends on which God they are turning to ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I am not an expert on religious practices, but now, as far as I know, this issue is very liberalized and you can pray on any issue and to any God (good or evil). Perhaps this process of "communication" with higher beings for the people who are engaged in these are more important than the very process of entertaining betting.
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Perhaps this is a controversial stance but I think if praying is part of your gambling process you probably shouldn’t be gambling maybe.
It depends on someone's belief. If in his/her belief that praying doesn't deserve to include in gambling, it shouldn't be a part of gambling. While if in his/her belief that praying is something usual in the game like gambling, so just go to pray in gambling. Actually, this something shouldn't be debated because basically the choice of an individual. I don't know why many people debate it here although they know it is the right of the individual. someone's belief in what they believe is their basic right and we certainly can't force it on other people, what they do we don't necessarily think is right, as well as what we do may not be in line with their beliefs, but I really believe all Religions in the world teach goodness to their people, Every gambling player certainly wants victory and not defeat and usually Prayers and spell are always spoken from the mouth of almost all gambling players and they hope to win and in my opinion every intention and hope of winning that is in the heart is a prayer, and usually gamblers will hope that they get lucky in the game.
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I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.
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I don't know a player who doesn't fold his hands as if to pray or use the word "God" when playing in a casino or the lottery. Regardless of which god someone believes in and even if he doesn't believe in any, he somehow prays to be lucky. Unfortunately, god has nothing to do with math and probability.
It seems to me that everyone understands that this is not a real prayer, but only a way to reduce nervous tension. In general, this is quite paradoxical - people go to casinos to tickle their nerves and at the same time try to reduce the effect they get during the game.
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