Prayer and gambling.

[geegaw]

It may be natural to pray in all thing for personal gain. But I can say that there is no correlation between gambling and prayer winning because basically this victory is a gambler's luck. Although it's not wrong, I don't think it will increase the chance of winning. I will not pray for winning the bet, but just hope luck is on my side. Only that.

Prayer is a request to God, regardless of whether what we ask for is good or bad, but of course the behavior in praying is also a determinant so that prayer is granted, and in my opinion praying at gambling is not a good thing, because basically God hates those who risking his fate in gambling, so I agree more if the luck factor is more important in gambling and indeed there is nothing wrong with praying for victory in gambling, but we should not blame God when later we experience defeat in gambling.

I don't want to talk about religious matters too much, I simply think that the way we pray only shows how miserable we are with the current situation, there is nothing we can do, except make a request from God but why do we pray about such unreasonable requests. We are not really in a situation where there is no way out and we are forced to pray, we can get out of this simply by not playing and not participating but why do so many people still prefer the situation to be more complicated

[tabas]

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Those are three different things that some gamblers are considering, prayer, luck and knowledge or strategy. They can come altogether but they can also keep up on their own based on the belief and feeling of the gambler. He can consider all of those all at once when he starts winning.
But the others might just say one or two of those factors that helped them win. Luck is needed because it's a typical factor with all of those luck based games and whether we include those strategy games, we're always hoping for it.

Yes, every gambler are hoping for the luck needed to win but prayer still doesn't work or help in winning when it comes to gambling and it better we face the certainty about this issue cause a gambler with no knowledge and strategy will never win the game even if she won the game she will gamble with all the money she won in the end.

I agree. That's an uncommon thing with gamblers and religions, it's hard to bet on if you have that type of prayer but you're unsure if that prayer will be granted.
That's why some gamblers only expect to be lucky or not and there's no attachment with religion as they gamble.

[uneng]

To make it simple, just pray for God normally. He will listen to your prays and if the solution for your currently problems must be achieved through gambling, that is how God will make it happen on practice through his spiritual laws. I keep in mind God moves in a mysterious ways, so I can't say God will or won't act like this or that, because it's not possible to speak for him.
We can just live a harmonic daily routine, away from the addictions and expect for the best, that our lives may run smoothly through a prosperous, joyful way, however the details of how it will happen for real goes beyond our personal preferences, wishes and desires.

[mig6r]

Why don't you just go for a test and place 100 bets with praying and 100 bets without praying. Then you check whether there is a statistically significant deviation from one form of betting to the other. I am sorry to tell you the result upfront, but there won't be a difference. Otherwise the whole betting scene would turn into a religious cult for sure.

That is an awesome idea , but maybe 100 bets are not enough We should make a large size - like 1000 bets. This would be a nice case study. But which God are we praying for? We probably also need to test if there is a difference if we have a Christian, a Budhist , a Hindi or a Muslim praying to their own Gods. In the end we need a lot of bets just to be sure. Also what if there is a different if it is a woman praying or a men?

Haha yes, and if the prayers win the betting competition by a statistically significant margin I will double the winnings of the prayers, I promise. Or even better, I'll surely start praying myself while gambling.

[lienfaye]

To make it simple, just pray for God normally. He will listen to your prays and if the solution for your currently problems must be achieved through gambling, that is how God will make it happen on practice through his spiritual laws. I keep in mind God moves in a mysterious ways, so I can't say God will or won't act like this or that, because it's not possible to speak for him.

Exactly, I believe he is listening to our prayers and grant what we desire in different form or situation. So we might win or lose in gambling but it is destined to happen and not because we are a believer. I think the question that need an answer first is, is God or any spiritual being glad that we gamble? Some religion seeing it as a sin.

[michellee]

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.

Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.

Yes, I agree with you. Everything will not be complicated if we have knowledge. But some people who gamble seem not to learn more about the games they like because they think that gambling will be only for fun.

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.

Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.

If that game is too complicated to play, they must learn to know how to play better and who knows that they can win the game by learning. But if that game does not require knowing more details about the game, they can skip it and enjoy their time playing the game.

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.

If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.

If they only pray and play, that will not be a problem because that will depend on the game they played. If they do not have much knowledge about that game, they do not have to complain if they can not win.

[STT]

in a manner that our bets are opposites

There is no prayer for interference in human free will and events but this is not uncommon logic.   In past wars one side would often claim to have the backing of god therefore a passage to victory, these are all misunstandings.  A prayer in my understanding can only be said for the benefit of others and never to win gambling risks, the only chance of any success is work through people and a person in the bet has no personal fight past money.  I totally believe OP when he says many do this but I only hope it clarifies that persons thinking for a moment, nothing else would work same for many hope systems to betting.

[Ebede]

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure  criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.

[suzanne5223]

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games.

Knowledge is the most fundamental characteristic needed in gambling not that it will also be important cause if a gsmbler don't have knowledge about games rules she have lost the game before the start of.

Yes, I agree with you. Everything will not be complicated if we have knowledge. But some people who gamble seem not to learn more about the games they like because they think that gambling will be only for fun.

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money.

Apparently, this are the people that lack the required knowledge and this is the reason why knowledge should the top priority of every gambler.

If that game is too complicated to play, they must learn to know how to play better and who knows that they can win the game by learning. But if that game does not require knowing more details about the game, they can skip it and enjoy their time playing the game.

You are right but they also need to understand the concept of gambling which is what some people don't understand and later lose all their winning fund.

Although luck is needed in gambling but knowledge is the most thing that is needed to be a successful gambler and it funny how unsophisticated people can be sometime when it comes to the reality of gambling.
Have I ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? No, cause the luck needed in gambling don't just come, gambler personal knowledge pave way for it to come and the last time I check almost all religion is against gambling.

Knowledge will also be important for the gamblers because that will help them to play better and with luck, they will win the games. Sometimes, people can not see the reality of gambling instead of still forcing them to play longer, making them lose more money. But we can pray before gambling if we feel that can give us more confidence. But if it's not, we can directly play gambling and hope that our luck will come to us.

If you don’t understand the game always read the instruction and that’s a great knowledge came from since every games have their own instructions and you’ll master it once you keep playing that specific game. When it comes to prayer, we have so many belief and there’s nothing wrong with this one, just pray and play but never expect something.

If they only pray and play, that will not be a problem because that will depend on the game they played. If they do not have much knowledge about that game, they do not have to complain if they can not win.

@Johnyz, absolutely some people put their believe in praying to do the magic whereas it all have to do with their own preparation and knowledge. That's why I'm against praying and gambling.

[Silberman]

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.

I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

[ethereumhunter]

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

From my ten 10 years experience in gambling i understand that any winning game comes with luck not by perfection or how long you have been into it, God or gods never be a sure  criteria for someone win a game constantly, so looking it to win gambling come from your star.

That means we need the luck to win the games and without luck, we will lose. But unfortunately, I want to say that luck will not come easily to you because luck only comes to the chosen one. So praying can only give us calm down before we play, but after we play, the tension in our body will increase and impact how we play. It is good if you can control yourself. Otherwise, you will not see your money with you for a long time.

[mig6r]

Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.

Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.

Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

Betting on the outcome of matches is similar to tossing a coin. If someone believes that a coin is able to turn in his favor, he will probably believe that he prayed it. It really has nothing to do with it.
I suggest you do an experiment.
Someone can bet on 10 games and you toss a coin 10 times.
The probability will be very similar, and often even better, than that of someone who was emotionally betting on matches.

I suggested something similar but your sample size is too small, if someone tossed a coin 1000 times without praying a single time and then did the same while praying to get the results they want we are going to find out there is not a statistical meaningful difference between the two samples, which leads us to a very simple conclusion, praying has no effect on our probabilities, something that should be obvious without running this experiment but this can be done just to make sure this is the case.

It can't be done actually because how are you going to verify that the person actually prayed? What does praying even mean? Talk some bible verses? This experiment can't be done, but I guess most of us agree that calling for some transcendental power for your own good does not work out very often...

[michellee]

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

[suzanne5223]

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

[sujonali1819]

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

[michellee]

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeking that spent more than she can afford to understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected. I agree with what you say about people searching for other things to have fun, but some people will still use gambling to search for that fun because they feel that by playing gambling, they can enjoy their moment and express their feeling, whatever the result is.

[suzanne5223]

To be sincere, no one gamble for just fun, it will be better if people face the fact and do what is right (have the knowledge to gamble profitable and understand the game rules) rather wasting their money and time.

Some people out there are playing gambling for just fun and spend their free time using gambling. And they do not try to chase the winning because that is not their reason to gamble. Facing the fact is difficult, especially for people who spend more than an hour and already spend more money and lose because they will think that the next rolls will be their luck.

You make two points in your response but I can only agree to one of it which is about facing the fact of gambling to be difficult and I don't see it as something that's difficult if the gambling lucky seeker that spent more than she can afford to, understand the major concept of gambling which is to provide an unsure chance of winning.
I will still say it again, no one truly gambling for the fun alone and there are many ways people can have fun if they want to not through gambling.
Let's face the fact.

Maybe you can say that is not difficult, but I doubt they can say the same as you for other people. Facing reality needs a wise mind to consider that what we did can not work as what we want while other people will become sad if they find that it does not work as expected.

It good to have a wise mind, follow ones instinct but gambling is just like crypto day trading in some aspect and only traders that took their time to seek for knowledge and understanding the basic part of it will have the wise mind. The same thing happen in gambling and only gamblers that took their time to make research online about the basic step to gamble profitable will have the wise mind.
This is what make understanding the fact about gambling.

I agree with what you say about people searching for other things to have fun, but some people will still use gambling to search for that fun because they feel that by playing gambling, they can enjoy their moment and express their feeling, whatever the result is.

Yes but they are trying to make money and having fun at the same time so the intention was not only to have fun that's why I said no one gamble only for fun.

[Lanatsa]

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.

[KennyR]

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.

The winning can be out of luck, but this coincidence of prayer before the win gives them the energy and believe prayer has got them win. Prayer is part of each and every activity connected with human life, now the same has come to gambling.

Most of the time people will never think about God when they're happy. In such way people pray when they're in loss and if that turns win after prayer then the gamblers start using it a routine before gambling unlike the win/losses.

[AmoreJaz]

Doing prayer before doing gambling? It's really very funny to me. Who heard the prayer when we do? GOD right? I don't think there is any religion which look the gambling with a positive eyes. Society also does not take gambling as a good thinks. So I think prayer can not help someone to win in basically gambling.

But there are people whom do really believe that it works specially into those people who do make some prayer first before playing and coincidentally won some amounts and telling it to themselves that playing to God does really work and this would already make as a habit.

I cant really blame some people because we do really stick into something if we had seen that it did really work out but honestly I don't see for prayer to be relevant
on gambling scene.

It all talks or matters with luck and theres no such thing about divine intervention in gambling activity.

The winning can be out of luck, but this coincidence of prayer before the win gives them the energy and believe prayer has got them win. Prayer is part of each and every activity connected with human life, now the same has come to gambling.

Most of the time people will never think about God when they're happy. In such way people pray when they're in loss and if that turns win after prayer then the gamblers start using it a routine before gambling unlike the win/losses.

in short, this is more of psychological factor. so are they going to curse their "God" in case they lost big time? let's admit the reality that it has nothing to do with the results. but people want to believe on things they want to believe in. we can't do anything much about that. let them be. as long as they not harming anyone. we are free to believe what we want.
on this aspect, we will see varying opinions, just respect everyone's beliefs.