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Title: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Rruchi man on October 18, 2021, 01:48:30 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Bttzed03 on October 18, 2021, 02:04:07 PM
Some of the fixed matches were real and it happened mostly on lower/less popular leagues. I don't know how many of them still exist today but you can browse on the net how many were investigated and busted. Those involved were from top management to the players. Having said that, I think most numbers (scores) sold as fixed matches are fake though.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: goldkingcoiner on October 18, 2021, 02:09:41 PM
Nobody likes fixed matches but then again, the question is how do you find out if there was any fixing? I don't think its possible in most cases. And if a match is fixed not many people will know about it, if any at all.

The whole point is keeping the fixing under tight wraps so nobody else gets in on the action.

But as far as fixing them, its all up to the top dogs. If they want to fix it, they will and nobody will be the wiser. ::)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mindrust on October 18, 2021, 02:13:41 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They are real but you'll probably get scammed believing that you can actually access that information. Whoever selling/telling you these matches is either scamming you or just lying because why not. If I had that information I wouldn't share it with anyone because the more people bet on that game, the more suspicions it would raise and when enough people look at that game, the bets might get cancelled. 99.9% of the time the information you get will be nothing but bullshit.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 18, 2021, 02:45:25 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.
You were with your friend who claims that he got some random numbers that were sent to him and he was placing bets, you could have seen first hand whether he won or not and you could have asked him how he got them. It was far better than asking us here who does not have any idea how to find fixed matches  :P.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
You should tell us whether your friend got fixed match or not and in which event he was placing the bet.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Beparanf on October 18, 2021, 02:49:58 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


It's real but its very hard to distinguished whether the tip that your friend get is real or not unless it was proven in multiple matches. There is a lot of services out there that selling a fake fixed match tip just to have profit to those people that will will purchased it. Only few person can access on this kind of sensitive information so I think selling it in public doesn't seems right if we apply the logic how much they can get by just making it a secret for themselves unlike if they are caught doing it.



Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Sterbens on October 18, 2021, 03:00:20 PM
No one can guarantee the determination of gambling with the numbers that have been given. It's very vulnerable and you're better off betting what you know. Because then whatever the result will be, you have the right to lose, good luck. The match is still real, but you want to return to the consequences that you have decided earlier.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: finaleshot2016 on October 18, 2021, 03:09:39 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Yes, fixed matches do exist, especially when large corporations are involved. They do exist in sporting events, which is why some people are already benefiting from them because they know who will win the game. At the end of the day, sports are also becoming a business for certain large people, thus we don't wager on sports that have a history of manipulated matches.

So if ever you got info about it, don't trust it unless there's a history about it.  ::)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: molsewid on October 18, 2021, 03:12:55 PM
Some of the fixed matches were real and it happened mostly on lower/less popular leagues. I don't know how many of them still exist today but you can browse on the net how many were investigated and busted. Those involved were from top management to the players. Having said that, I think most numbers (scores) sold as fixed matches are fake though.

I do believe that these fix matches doesn't exists in the world of game maybe in gambling I guess it would be possible but then I search first on the net and found that there are already list of fix matches that had happened. It's not just happened in a certain game but to my surprise there are a lot of type of games that fix matches really exists. However, it is also doubtful to place a bet on a certain fix matches especially if the score or number that was given to OP's friend is not legit or fake not unless he's source of score were one of the game facilitator.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ryzaadit on October 18, 2021, 03:18:51 PM
Yes.

Just take the example "dota" who just finished The International 10, we have some new recently "xiao8" coaches from PSG.LGD betting on some match. Fixed match can be from various factor
1. Player betting on the match
2. Player/team who doing fixed match getting paid by some


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: qwertyup23 on October 18, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
It happens more often than you think.

Generally, match fixing happens on matches that are not that well-regulated and guarded by the established authorities. Usually, it also happens on events that are considered "small-scale" where the referees and/or players are involved in the scheme.

Recently here in the Philippines, there was a basketball game held in one of its provinces and it was subsequently ruled that the players were involved in match fixing. In addition, match fixing also happens in e-sports where players would bet money/skins in their opponents and they would intentionally throw away the game.

The problem with fixed matches stem from proving that such event did indeed happen.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Jackl87 on October 18, 2021, 03:33:29 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


I would say for a fixed match you need to bribe at least the majority of the players of one of the two teams to let the other team win because a single player can not do to much if we are talking about football (soccer) matches, i mean it would be pretty obvious if he just keeps fouling in the own box for example to create 5 penalty kicks. The more players that know of the manipulation and are also part of it the bigger is the risk of course that one of them talks about it sooner or later and therefore everything comes up. I also think that fixed matches don't happen in the big leagues but only maybe in the third division of the big football nations and maybe in the first division of really small countries.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Yogee on October 18, 2021, 03:52:34 PM
I think there was a video of a basketball game posted here before which was investigated and proven to be a fixed match. The referees stopped the game because it became too obvious that both teams were throwing the match away by missing easy and open shots. There's your example that it exist and how it's done.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bitzizzix on October 18, 2021, 04:19:29 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

The question is who sent the number that you and your friends think the sent number is the accurate end result of the game.
It's better to find out the truth and investigate whether the number is true or not secretly, I mean because there are also numbers that have been determined or match fixing but what I know is very secret and very unlikely to leak. and if the number is correct you will be lucky, and usually the match that has been determined will be known after the game ends.
but it's better not to trust too much if you don't know where it came from because there are also people who use it for personal gain.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on October 18, 2021, 04:33:27 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Matches are fixed all the time, however most of the time this happens in leagues which are not really popular, now fixing a team sport is harder as unless you can convince everyone on the team to be part of the fix then it is not a sure thing that you can fix the game successfully, but when it comes to sports that are individual then fixing the match is easier as you only need to convince one or two people for the cheaters to accomplish their goal.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Zilon on October 18, 2021, 04:36:27 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Yes there are fixed matches but it occurs very seldomly and in less popular leagues. But scammers take advantage of this to defraud people while some occur by coincidence.  If I were to be in a team where my next fixture is fixed I have nothing to do I would only do as instructed besides I'm working for my club so I abide by their rules but one thing I wouldn't miss out is giving in my best to show what I got on the field


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ralle14 on October 18, 2021, 04:38:35 PM
Match fixing is actually a thing and most people who do this rarely get caught and proving it takes a lot of time unless one of the players involved suddenly tells the truth.

From what I know these match fixes usually happen in the lower leagues since there are fewer restrictions and penalties for the players. If I know my next match will be fixed by my teammates i'll stay away and be inactive knowing there's collateral damage on match fixing. Once it's proven everyone in the team will receive some punishments and the level of punishment will depend on your involvement.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mirakal on October 18, 2021, 04:43:08 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real?

It's happening I believe but we can't guarantee if the information given is accurate, there's only one way to find out if your friend wins then it must be coming from a legit legitimate source. The small league will be easier to manipulate so the market is small but even in big leagues, the fixed game is happening but they are smart enough to hide it and let us guessing only, it's still a big gamble for us.

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Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
If everyone will participate, that's a massive game fixing and the outcome would be more accurate, and yes, they can all participate.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: madnessteat on October 18, 2021, 04:49:26 PM
Of course fixed matches exist but as practice shows many sources that provide information on fixed matches are very often wrong.

I do not think that players have the opportunity to change the score in a fixed match because they will not risk going against the interests of the club and value their careers.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: avikz on October 18, 2021, 04:58:50 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Match fixing happens in reality! However,  the information of fixed matches are not available to random youngsters. Those who bet of fixed matches, are already sitting on millions of dollars and they will not share this information to anyone else outside their circle.

Whatis available in the market, is most probably fake information. So beware if someone says they have information on fixed matches. Because if the information is real, they would not give it to you, rather they will bet and make fortune for themselves.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Viscore on October 18, 2021, 05:00:09 PM
Fixed matches exist but to get a call from someone about fixed matches, I doubt that is real. I mean this is a big syndicate, this info is not shared for ordinary people, it's only enjoyed by those bettors who bet a lot of money and are willing to pay a huge amount to the organization that provides a fixed match which most likely the organization that runs the game as well.

Some article on the fixed sport.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/187137-breaking-news-the-nba-is-fixed-the-incredible-story-of-greed


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mu_enrico on October 18, 2021, 05:10:18 PM
Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Yes, it's real. There are many methods, but the easiest one would be team-x willingly play like a shit, then lose the match (team-y win).
BUT the real problem is whether your information is correct. The scammers might say there's match fixing involved, where's actually not. Or you can get the wrong information to bet on team-x. Where the smart (insider) money bet on team-y :D


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: freedomgo on October 18, 2021, 05:28:22 PM
Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Yes, it's real. There are many methods, but the easiest one would be team-x willingly play like a shit, then lose the match (team-y win).
BUT the real problem is whether your information is correct. The scammers might say there's match fixing involved, where's actually not. Or you can get the wrong information to bet on team-x. Where the smart (insider) money bet on team-y :D
There are a lot of scammers in the space who claimed that they are selling some reliable fixed information of a certain game, but first, in order to get that information, we should avail of their services by paying the subscription fee, and most of the time it's very expensive so it's pretty obvious that they just want to score a scam on us.

Actually, there are a lot of rumors that sports are rigged or fixed, but it seems that no one could have proved it yet, as if they find someone, a player or a referee who they think are trying to rig the game, they can just punish them to make the certain sports look clean but in reality, it's still happening inside.

Anyway, it's not our main concern, our only concern is if the fixed information is reliable or not.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: blockman on October 18, 2021, 05:35:32 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Yes, they're for real but not all of them that are receiving a 'signal' is for real as well. There's no need for any consent for particular fixed matches but they're putting their careers at stake just for a chunk of money that they can get. There are matches that can cost them millions of dollars because of betting but there are also players that don't want to be part of it and are just victims because of their higher position bosses that wants to play fix.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: notblox1 on October 18, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
Fixed matches do happen in lower leagues but not so much in top leagues and most of those insider fixed matches are fake, and just one more way for taking money from people.
I remember some people losing all their life savings and ruining their lives because of this so called sure fixed matches, so I would stay away from this and only bet what you are willing to lose.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bL4nkcode on October 18, 2021, 07:04:39 PM
so I would stay away from this and only bet what you are willing to lose.
Only if you can surely identify those matches are fixed, as it's somewhat difficult to recognize.

Coz obviously, if people knows that the fight is a fixed match then isn't it easy to bet and win coz they probably knew that it was fixed? Where the future winner of the fight is already obvious?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 18, 2021, 07:14:18 PM
Fixed matches do happen in lower leagues but not so much in top leagues and most of those insider fixed matches are fake, and just one more way for taking money from people.
I remember some people losing all their life savings and ruining their lives because of this so called sure fixed matches, so I would stay away from this and only bet what you are willing to lose.

this is true, you don't know if the source of info is authentic or just trying to milk those who will avail those fake info. but in actuality, fixed matches are indeed happening but how to spot this may require some good eyes. just like what has been discussed also in this section, i remember it was about basketball in PH. but i believe it was stopped as it was obviously showing that the players were showing something not in their usual performance. so if you are a follower of a particular sport, you can tell the difference if there's something wrong with the game. if you doubt about the game, better not bet at all.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: dunfida on October 18, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Fixed matches do really exist but these kind of information doesnt really just came out on randomly or in public unless if you are part of big mafia or some organization then you would might able to get these information.

Asking out about on how its been done? On the word fixed matches then they do know on what to do and of course it do involves money on any team which is connected to it.

So hows your friend able to acquire that info? If random text or emails then it is likely a scam attempt.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: LTU_btc on October 18, 2021, 08:02:01 PM
Fixed matches is big thing, but average Joe can't know which game is fixed. Your friend probably just got scammed by someone who sell "fixed games".
Usually fixed matches happens in less popular leagues qnd lower divisions. And often teams and coaches don't even know that they're playing in fixed game. It's enough to have just few players, usually defenders and (or) goalkeeper who play shit to achieve what they want like goals over or handicap.
These who involved in fixed games aren't selling it. They don't need publicity because it may screw thing up for them. But from my experience it's possible to catch fixed game if you will notice some strange things happening in pre-game bets market or live markets. But then you have to react fast.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: milewilda on October 18, 2021, 08:09:52 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Fixed matches do really exist but these kind of information doesnt really just came out on randomly or in public unless if you are part of big mafia or some organization then you would might able to get these information.

Asking out about on how its been done? On the word fixed matches then they do know on what to do and of course it do involves money on any team which is connected to it.

So hows your friend able to acquire that info? If random text or emails then it is likely a scam attempt.
Scam attempt on the sense that there are people who do ask out for some payment for the tip but the truth that they are just making random guesses and pass it to people and claim it that it was fixed and if that tip won then people do tend to believe on it and ask out for more and this time it requires payment.These information would come into different mediums which you wouldnt really expect
but be cautious anytime you do really make out betting decisions.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: DarkDays on October 18, 2021, 08:30:34 PM
Some of the fixed matches were real and it happened mostly on lower/less popular leagues. I don't know how many of them still exist today but you can browse on the net how many were investigated and busted. Those involved were from top management to the players. Having said that, I think most numbers (scores) sold as fixed matches are fake though.
Yes, since the era of online gambling fixed matches have started to reduce to almost nothing as most of these were happening in real games not online.

It would be interesting to see what type of matches like this still exist and if they have an online presence - my take is that not - but I can stand corrected....


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Naficopa on October 18, 2021, 08:54:32 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


I don't think your friend is telling the truth. Of course, theoretically, such situations can take place, but in the present day and with modern investigative technologies, such practices would not go unnoticed for too long. Decades ago, such things happened, but now it's almost impossible. If any team, coach or player were caught, it would surely end with a court sentence. I don't think anyone would want to risk something like that.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lanatsa on October 18, 2021, 08:59:13 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


I don't think your friend is telling the truth. Of course, theoretically, such situations can take place, but in the present day and with modern investigative technologies, such practices would not go unnoticed for too long. Decades ago, such things happened, but now it's almost impossible. If any team, coach or player were caught, it would surely end with a court sentence. I don't think anyone would want to risk something like that.
You do got the point.Making out some fixed matches isn't something that would really be that easy to applied or execute because eyes of fans would able to notice that there's something happening behind

those plays which it is really hard for them to make some fixed matches but it do really exist though and they aren't really that too obvious if its well executed and just like what others been saying that

he might be lying about on someone is texting him or if theres really some text then it do came from random people.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 2double0 on October 18, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
Fixed matches are real because the greed inside a human cannot be controlled by any other person and if he wishes to sell his self-respect for some money, nobody can stop him too.

I remember a basketball match (forgot the league) where the whole game was looking fixed. It was not only that it was fixed, but even a 5 year old could say that the game was fixed by seeing the behavior of the opponent team who were losing intentionally even while they could easily beat the opponents. This wasn't over yet, even the referee in the game was bribed as all his decisions were in favor of opponents. Almost every sport consists of fixed matches, but very few of them get caught.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: agustina2 on October 18, 2021, 11:09:21 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


You are already with your friend, why not ask him directly about fixed matches. Ask your friend where he got his access and if fixed matches really happened. After hearing his story, now ask yourself if the fixed match is real. All you can read here is speculation and we don't have any friend or close one that involves in fixe matches.

Share with us the story you will got from your friend.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Saint-loup on October 18, 2021, 11:18:23 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

From which country are you precisely? I think in poor countries it's more likely to happen than in richest ones. I'm not saying it never happens in rich countries, but it's usually more secret and hidden in those countries because the benefit-risk balance is more unfavorable there.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ene1980 on October 18, 2021, 11:51:55 PM
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From which country are you precisely? I think in poor countries it's more likely to happen than in richest ones. I'm not saying it never happens in rich countries, but it's usually more secret and hidden in those countries because the benefit-risk balance is more unfavorable there.
Corruption can happen anywhere in the world, we have seen teams from first world countries getting busted for fixing games, i have not placed a bet for these fixed matches because even if the match is fixed no one is going to know about it other than the team fixing them and the person spending the money to fix them.

Whenever i see unusual huge bets, i usually follow them and there were times i won and majority of the times i loose a well. So no idea about these and even the OP who says his friend got and he does not even have a clue whether it is true. ;D


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: chaser15 on October 18, 2021, 11:53:53 PM
If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

No reaction. Even that game will be fixed or not, we don't know what will be the result of the game. You bet on a certain team because of your own factors. If it loses, then accept. No difference at all. We are gambling at the start and we should just go with the flow.

Game-fixing happened but not most of the time.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Saint-loup on October 18, 2021, 11:55:57 PM
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From which country are you precisely? I think in poor countries it's more likely to happen than in richest ones. I'm not saying it never happens in rich countries, but it's usually more secret and hidden in those countries because the benefit-risk balance is more unfavorable there.
Corruption can happen anywhere in the world, we have seen teams from first world countries getting busted for fixing games, i have not placed a bet for these fixed matches because even if the match is fixed no one is going to know about it other than the team fixing them and the person spending the money to fix them.

Whenever i see unusual huge bets, i usually follow them and there were times i won and majority of the times i loose a well. So no idea about these and even the OP who says his friend got and he does not even have a clue whether it is true. ;D
How do you spot and track those so called huge bets precisely? You are looking for them on Stake or do you know a platform dealing with that? I didn't know people aware of fixed games were using Stake to place their bets even if it would make sense because of the anonymity of cryptos and the lack of KYC to open account.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: goinmerry on October 18, 2021, 11:59:32 PM
Fixed matches are always a question because there's no way we can determine it unless it was exposed in the media.

I believed big leagues are not that prone to fixed matches because they are widely known in the world. If fix match will happen within their jurisdiction, it will be a disgrace to the league and the support from the community might be decreased.

If we see big leagues are imposing heavy sanctions or penalties on those involved players in a suspected fixed league, then we can say that they are serious taking down those activities.

To OP, is the story really legit? Or you just create it to start a discussion.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Saint-loup on October 19, 2021, 12:33:03 AM
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To OP, is the story really legit? Or you just create it to start a discussion.
You are suggesting Rruchi man is a liar?  ??? Why are you saying that, I don't understand? It's a little bit hateful IMO and he could say the same thing about the usefulness of your post because what you are saying here has already been said above several times.  :-\


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: yazher on October 19, 2021, 12:42:18 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They are real and most of the time it came from a match where the team is not really famous like for example in the boxing match, you can see them clearly where most of them are just bad at pretending. You can watch some of them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBitM4o3WQk&ab_channel=SmBBoxing


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Wexnident on October 19, 2021, 01:37:20 AM
They're real all right. It's just that most of them are under the radar hence why people who aren't purposely looking for it wouldn't even notice it most of the time. Fixed matches are something that are frowned upon and would result in at the very least a temporary ban for both the players and the referees that are in it, so most matches like that would be done so that not only the people watching, but also the other responsible people that are in the match itself wouldn't actually notice anything wrong.

Just look up match-fixing tbh, and you'd probably find a lot of info on past match fixes that happened.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: xSkylarx on October 19, 2021, 01:58:52 AM
If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

No reaction. Even that game will be fixed or not, we don't know what will be the result of the game. You bet on a certain team because of your own factors. If it loses, then accept. No difference at all. We are gambling at the start and we should just go with the flow.

Game-fixing happened but not most of the time.

Agree that game fixing occurs in all sports or games, but it does not occur frequently. If they don't accept that they lose, I believe most people will say it. Many of my friends say this when we bet on e sports or the NBA for fun, but you are correct in that you should accept the fact that you will lose whether the game is fixed or not. It's also difficult to catch them if it was fixed because it's a game violation, so there's a good chance you'll lose.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: traderethereum on October 19, 2021, 03:00:46 AM
If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

No reaction. Even that game will be fixed or not, we don't know what will be the result of the game. You bet on a certain team because of your own factors. If it loses, then accept. No difference at all. We are gambling at the start and we should just go with the flow.

Game-fixing happened but not most of the time.

Agree that game fixing occurs in all sports or games, but it does not occur frequently. If they don't accept that they lose, I believe most people will say it. Many of my friends say this when we bet on e sports or the NBA for fun, but you are correct in that you should accept the fact that you will lose whether the game is fixed or not. It's also difficult to catch them if it was fixed because it's a game violation, so there's a good chance you'll lose.
Somehow, they can hide it from the public so we only think that the game is real without any interference from other sides.
Some gamblers can know if that fixed matches or not because they have their analysis and know the history of each team.
For a gambler who does not know about the fixed matches or not, they only place their gambling.
But for people who watch the game from their home and do not know anything about the fixed matches, they only enjoy the game and not thinking much.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 19, 2021, 04:22:35 AM
Some of the fixed matches were real and it happened mostly on lower/less popular leagues. I don't know how many of them still exist today but you can browse on the net how many were investigated and busted. Those involved were from top management to the players. Having said that, I think most numbers (scores) sold as fixed matches are fake though.
Though this mostly happen in smaller leagues/sports yet there are revelation in the past that Even in Major league this is happening (Sometimes/limited occasions) because we knew how Money can play and this will never change the reality that bad things happen in sports gaming nowadays.
and this also taking the trust of many fans/bettors.

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OP this may real or not but if you are a good person you will never rely on this kind of event as this is cheating .


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oasisman on October 19, 2021, 04:30:29 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes it happened and will continue to happen, especially in an unknown league.
I have posted a few months ago about an obvious match fixing happened here in my country.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.msg56795480#msg56795480  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.msg56795480#msg56795480)
There's an attached link of the video for you to have a slight idea how the fixed games work.

Fixed games is usually orchestrated by the league comittee and board. So, when there is an obvious rigging the first people to be questioned is them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Reatim on October 19, 2021, 04:34:27 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes it happened and will continue to happen, especially in an unknown league.
I have posted a few months ago about an obvious match fixing happened here in my country.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.msg56795480#msg56795480  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330982.msg56795480#msg56795480)
There's an attached link of the video for you to have a slight idea how the fixed games work.

Fixed games is usually orchestrated by the league comittee and board. So, when there is an obvious rigging the first people to be questioned is them.
agreed in that mate because this will never happen without Officials helping this to come reality also imagine how those players will take part if this is not orchestrated by the Higher ups?
Have watched several News about this rigging and i know that almost every sports has this situation.
and the most affected here is the bettors , also the effect for long run as trust will gone in those said sports , specially Boxing and Basketball .


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: davis196 on October 19, 2021, 06:21:31 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes,fixed matches do exist,but they mostly happen in the low quality leagues of the poor/underdeveloped countries.
Good luck trying to find a fixed match that is actually fixed.If somebody is trying to sell your such info,then he is most likely a scammer/snake oil seller.Info about real fixed matches is usually kept between the football players,who are betting secretly on fixed matches,in which they are playing,or maybe some mobsters.
Perhaps you could find info about fixed matches on the darkweb,but the chance of getting scammed is still above 99%.
I'm not a player,so I couldn't care less about fixed matches.If I was,my reaction would be calling the cops.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: dupee419 on October 19, 2021, 06:54:06 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


I don't know much about Football but I am quite aware about fixing matches, it happens a lot on the esports scene, CSGO is a game wherein pro teams have been match fixing, I don't know but I am sure that this may also happen to other games. As for the players, they also cooperate with the match fixing only if they get paid for it, keep in mind that I am only referring to match fixing on esports, I have no idea how match fixing entirely works on physical sports like Football, etc.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Findingnemo on October 19, 2021, 07:22:59 AM
Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: danherbias07 on October 19, 2021, 07:30:10 AM
Try looking at streaming sites and you will find loads of documentaries with facts to back it up about fixed matches.
I can say they are real but it requires a mass amount of money for match to be fixed. I mean, that's their dignity that's on the line and some players may not even agree with it unless they are being blackmailed or the payment will be good enough than their salary.
But if given a chance of someone to spoil whatever the result will be, I may not take it. Not being a hypocrite but where is the fun in that?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: MonsterV on October 19, 2021, 09:47:25 AM
Not sure if they were real but we've seen some issues before that it's really happening and in your question about my reaction if I were on a team I will definitely be surprised with that if it's my first time participating on a fixed match but also an opportunity for me to place bet on which team will win I think they can make an easy money out of it. We'll that was just my reaction since for me I see it as an opportunity if I know what will be the outcome of the game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ultrloa on October 19, 2021, 10:36:33 AM
There was a discussion about fixed match happen in the Philippines before but that was been busted and the person involve was disqualified on the league and other got suspended, so this will be the warning for other to not do it since we are now dealing with high tech cameras and everything will go viral once there's anomaly happened in the league. And aside from that I didn't see any fix matches happening these days maybe this is totally eliminated but hopefully there's no something like this will exist since this will destroy the reputation of the league.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: btc78 on October 19, 2021, 10:53:38 AM
Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.
Why Players need to suffer when the truth is the Management i the direct command for this to take place?

The players only follows what directive given to them .

though there are some cases that they are acting directly on their own , but most of the cases are either the team management of the The management is whom Involved in Fix Matching.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: kotajikikox on October 19, 2021, 11:22:11 AM
There are several topics in the past that talks about something like this here in gambling discussions , Even NBA (National Basketball Association) once been involved in such problem though there are no complete proofs released.
also In boxing World and even in Footballs .
Meaning this is happening mate so yeah Maybe your friend might be right but mostly it is wrong unless he Wins on that certain bet you mentioned.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: AicecreaME on October 19, 2021, 11:36:15 AM
Fixed matches are real. It always happen because both parties will get benefited. For example Team A is the superior and Team B is the inferior, Team B will offer bigger money than the price that Team A will going to get if they win, so the benefit of Team A is the money while Team B is the title, simple as that. There are different reasons behind it in different sports and athletes. Lucky if your friend's source for that fixed match was legit because that's an easy money.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: uneng on October 19, 2021, 11:48:33 AM
Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Yes, it's real. There are many methods, but the easiest one would be team-x willingly play like a shit, then lose the match (team-y win).
BUT the real problem is whether your information is correct. The scammers might say there's match fixing involved, where's actually not. Or you can get the wrong information to bet on team-x. Where the smart (insider) money bet on team-y :D
There are a lot of scammers in the space who claimed that they are selling some reliable fixed information of a certain game, but first, in order to get that information, we should avail of their services by paying the subscription fee, and most of the time it's very expensive so it's pretty obvious that they just want to score a scam on us.

Actually, there are a lot of rumors that sports are rigged or fixed, but it seems that no one could have proved it yet, as if they find someone, a player or a referee who they think are trying to rig the game, they can just punish them to make the certain sports look clean but in reality, it's still happening inside.

Anyway, it's not our main concern, our only concern is if the fixed information is reliable or not.
There is a method scammers use to lure people into paying that subscription fee. First, they start sending games' results to common people for free. But actually, they select a wide range of people and send different possible results for a same game to each of them. This way some will receive the correct result, while others will receive wrong results.

So, close to the date of next game, scammers pick the people who received the correct result information of the previous game and send them new results predicting the next match. Again, some will be told team A will win, others will be told it will be a draw and others will be told team B will win.

Week after week scammers will do this and at some point, those individuals who are constantly receiving the correct results will feel tempted to subscribe to the scammers' services. When this happens, informations about the games stop arriving at their mailboxes/emails, as scammers have finally accomplished their goal.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mu_enrico on October 19, 2021, 01:15:41 PM
There is a method scammers use to lure people into paying that subscription fee. First, they start sending games' results to common people for free. But actually, they select a wide range of people and send different possible results for a same game to each of them. This way some will receive the correct result, while others will receive wrong results.

So, close to the date of next game, scammers pick the people who received the correct result information of the previous game and send them new results predicting the next match. Again, some will be told team A will win, others will be told it will be a draw and others will be told team B will win.

Week after week scammers will do this and at some point, those individuals who are constantly receiving the correct results will feel tempted to subscribe to the scammers' services. When this happens, informations about the games stop arriving at their mailboxes/emails, as scammers have finally accomplished their goal.
Wow, I haven't thought about that possibility. It makes sense tho. Assume the scammer has 1,000 email contacts. Since the probability is 50%, he can simply split the pool in half and guaranteed 500 will get the correct result. After 5 consecutive wins, 31 contacts get it all correct:

Start - 1,000
Win 1 - 500
Win 2 - 250
Win 3 - 125
Win 4 - 62.5
Win 5 - 31.25

It's tempting if you we are in the 31 contacts that get 5 consecutive wins. We might think it's a valid tipster.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Findingnemo on October 19, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.
Why Players need to suffer when the truth is the Management i the direct command for this to take place?

The players only follows what directive given to them .

though there are some cases that they are acting directly on their own , but most of the cases are either the team management of the The management is whom Involved in Fix Matching.
One who found guilty will get the punishment for sure, but whenever the team had enough money then they can tackle all the things because sports is also a kind of big politics where lot of things wre uncertain and anyone can be affected for no reason or one who is the reason for all of this can be free with no worries.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 19, 2021, 03:12:07 PM
They are real but you'll probably get scammed believing that you can actually access that information. Whoever selling/telling you these matches is either scamming you or just lying because why not. If I had that information I wouldn't share it with anyone because the more people bet on that game, the more suspicions it would raise and when enough people look at that game, the bets might get cancelled. 99.9% of the time the information you get will be nothing but bullshit.

The naivete of people who buy such "information" is surprising. The funny thing is that, as I understand it, we are talking about several matches. That is, we have to believe that someone has received information about several fixing matches at once (although such things happen several times a year). Probably people blinded by greed make such purchases, otherwise I don't know how to explain it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: YOSHIE on October 19, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.
I have experienced the same thing as your friend experienced, i spent $$ to place a soccer bet, in fact, everything was ruined, the score he gave was a mess of 0%, nothing was right, don't believe about the numbers.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
the game is fixed, yes, it's real, the coach and the team may change, but obviously I don't react if the problem really changes, I stick to my stance it's better for me.
The bottom line: change can happen in a football match, on the pitch it's a different story, which is clear I don't believe in such a mystique.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Cling18 on October 19, 2021, 03:38:45 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They could be real sometimes but they're also deceiving bettors sometimes. It could also be a strategy for scammers to fool people so we have to be very careful about it. Instead of hoping to win by believing in fixed matches, it would be better to bet fairly by not relying on scammers' traps.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on October 19, 2021, 04:31:12 PM
Yes, match fixing is real and there were lot of players were arrested for involving in the match fixing but they are not that much easy like we can pay 10 dollar and find the fixed matches and its unethical too so never encourage such activities even if you came across.
Why Players need to suffer when the truth is the Management i the direct command for this to take place?

The players only follows what directive given to them .

though there are some cases that they are acting directly on their own , but most of the cases are either the team management of the The management is whom Involved in Fix Matching.
One who found guilty will get the punishment for sure, but whenever the team had enough money then they can tackle all the things because sports is also a kind of big politics where lot of things wre uncertain and anyone can be affected for no reason or one who is the reason for all of this can be free with no worries.
Those found guilty can get banned from playing for the rest of their career because they make a mistake by following that thing. In their association, some people arrange fixed matches and maybe that is already happening from a long time ago without we know. If the Management has forced the player, they can tell the truth in court to prevent being guilty because they do not do that. Hopefully, the player is not doing that so they can play in safety until they are retired.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Jackl87 on October 19, 2021, 04:53:31 PM

They are real but you'll probably get scammed believing that you can actually access that information. Whoever selling/telling you these matches is either scamming you or just lying because why not. If I had that information I wouldn't share it with anyone because the more people bet on that game, the more suspicions it would raise and when enough people look at that game, the bets might get cancelled. 99.9% of the time the information you get will be nothing but bullshit.

I actually never thought about it that way but you are absolutely right of course. If they claim to already have a match that is fixed and they want you to join their "private group" for a certain entry fee, then it just has to be a scam because it would mean that those guys already have paid the players or referees in order to fix the outcome of that match, so why would they give away those informations now after they have already paid? One reason could be that they can not bet a to big amount of money on the match because it would be to obvious and the bookmaker would become suspicious. But if they sell the information to other people they could make additional profit, but i guess that would be too dangerous.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: tulusikhlas on October 19, 2021, 05:00:57 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They could be real sometimes but they're also deceiving bettors sometimes. It could also be a strategy for scammers to fool people so we have to be very careful about it. Instead of hoping to win by believing in fixed matches, it would be better to bet fairly by not relying on scammers' traps.

It is better to use a safe alternative than to try to trust the traps of scammers. We will be very difficult to blame if at any time what was at stake will be lost without any definite notification to us when placing a bet that the scammer deliberately gave. We have the option of betting anyway with our own consequences.
This case is indeed not the least that makes the victims of gamblers just believe it because they don't know who to ask.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: blockman on October 19, 2021, 05:11:44 PM
They could be real sometimes but they're also deceiving bettors sometimes. It could also be a strategy for scammers to fool people so we have to be very careful about it. Instead of hoping to win by believing in fixed matches, it would be better to bet fairly by not relying on scammers' traps.
Yes, it can be a trap and that's just a gimmick for them to give volume to the given sportsbook. They do that so that the casino that they're promoting will have more bets to come.
But there really are real fix matches but to have an insider and knowing the whole details of it, there could be a connection from someone who's really into that team and is connected someone big in that sport.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: madnessteat on October 19, 2021, 06:23:55 PM
A friend of mine is into betting on fixed matches and he often goes to a new channel of insiders as their information loses relevance over time. Do any of you know any insider channels on fixed matches that have been running for more than a year and have really useful information?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 19, 2021, 06:54:34 PM
A friend of mine is into betting on fixed matches and he often goes to a new channel of insiders as their information loses relevance over time. Do any of you know any insider channels on fixed matches that have been running for more than a year and have really useful information?

Do you really think that such channels can exist? If someone has regular information about match fixing, then he belongs to the very top of the global football mafia (not the fact that it exists), in this case he is a very, very wealthy person - why should he run a channel and sell for some scanty money his inside information? Isn't your friend going broke on this "information" already?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: milewilda on October 19, 2021, 07:07:03 PM
A friend of mine is into betting on fixed matches and he often goes to a new channel of insiders as their information loses relevance over time. Do any of you know any insider channels on fixed matches that have been running for more than a year and have really useful information?

Do you really think that such channels can exist? If someone has regular information about match fixing, then he belongs to the very top of the global football mafia (not the fact that it exists), in this case he is a very, very wealthy person - why should he run a channel and sell for some scanty money his inside information? Isn't your friend going broke on this "information" already?
This is what other people been thinking that they could really se these kind of information's so casually without even thinking that these info or leaks are really valuable and wont really just pop out

seems like it isnt really that a serious matter.Fixed matches do exist but you would really be need to be part of those groups of wealthy people for you to have at least some grasp of those info
and we do really believe that it could just leaked out to easily? Think again.Anyone who do claims that they do have fixed match info are mostly scams.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: TheEconomists on October 19, 2021, 07:10:50 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: wheelz1200 on October 19, 2021, 07:14:53 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Sports has always had a hint of fixing in it.  I think less now since there is so much video, social reaction etc from it.  Years ago they got away with it more.  I would never bet on a known fixed game nor if I was on the team would put up with it.  Kills the sports, seriously.  Look at what baseball had to go through with just steroid allegations let alone a fixed game.  Early 90s there was Arizona state basketball which they got the star player to fix some games.  Jailtime for many as well as a pro career ruined.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: shield132 on October 19, 2021, 07:16:05 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Real fixed matches don't happen in that way. I mean, then you shouldn't know that from your friend and the persons similar of your friend (don't get it wrong), will never know fixed matches.
But yeah, fixed matches really exist and happen. The scheme behind it is very complex. You know, there are big drug dealers who produce and sell, the same applies to fixed matches, it happens on that level of anonimity, so, the average person can't know the fixed matches, only the team who does that knows it. Also, there is a very big punishment on the persons who do fixed matches and those who actually know that it's fixed and bet on these fixed matches (usually these are the persons who do that matches).


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: madnessteat on October 19, 2021, 08:13:47 PM
Do you really think that such channels can exist? If someone has regular information about match fixing, then he belongs to the very top of the global football mafia (not the fact that it exists), in this case he is a very, very wealthy person - why should he run a channel and sell for some scanty money his inside information? Isn't your friend going broke on this "information" already?

No. He's not broke. He's very knowledgeable about soccer and doesn't always follow the advice of insiders. I even wonder sometimes how he can make money from it.

I myself have never used such channels and I bet only on the basis of analysis and bookmakers' coefficients. As I understand it the owners of insider channels buy information and resell it making money on it but at some point they start giving users unreliable information to make super profits.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: TheEconomists on October 19, 2021, 08:33:35 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Players will feel bad if they know the match is fixed though I think some of them know because if not then they knight play their best to win. Also, some players are the one who are being paid to throw the game and in my country, a lot of players are being caught for arranging fixed matches, well this is really exist and its too risky to bet with them, I’d rather not bet because its not a sure profit.
I wouldn't mind if you will mention the name of your country. This is a very bad situation if that is the case because it really make the gamblers to be loosing money and that was why I was saying in my previous post that my mind will not be at peace if I should participate in the deal.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 19, 2021, 08:46:37 PM
Do you really think that such channels can exist? If someone has regular information about match fixing, then he belongs to the very top of the global football mafia (not the fact that it exists), in this case he is a very, very wealthy person - why should he run a channel and sell for some scanty money his inside information? Isn't your friend going broke on this "information" already?

No. He's not broke. He's very knowledgeable about soccer and doesn't always follow the advice of insiders. I even wonder sometimes how he can make money from it.

I myself have never used such channels and I bet only on the basis of analysis and bookmakers' coefficients. As I understand it the owners of insider channels buy information and resell it making money on it but at some point they start giving users unreliable information to make super profits.

I hope he is really doing well (he must be very strong in betting, even if he spends money on various "insiders" he remains in profit). I hope this is not the case when a person embellishes his successes (hides his failures) because he takes this activity too seriously. I also have certain ideas that I want to try on real bets, but at the moment I am still testing them and do not want to risk real money.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fortify on October 19, 2021, 08:53:24 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Fixed matches are real, but they are cheating and illegal in most countries. They are basically a form of fraud, because you'll be working with insider information with the intention to take money from another party in a rigged game. There are too many scenarios to list how a game can be fixed but some ideas - it depends on the game, if you only need to pay off one "champion" who is a favorite to win, to take a loss, then it would be quite easy to pull it off. It's harder to rig a game if it requires multiple players, although we saw a recent example where Philippine basketball teams were blatantly trying to lose by repeated missed shots. The player(s) take high risk if they do this though as it can look obvious and may result in ruining a career for a single payoff.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Johnyz on October 19, 2021, 08:54:13 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Players will feel bad if they know the match is fixed though I think some of them know because if not then they knight play their best to win. Also, some players are the one who are being paid to throw the game and in my country, a lot of players are being caught for arranging fixed matches, well this is really exist and its too risky to bet with them, I’d rather not bet because its not a sure profit.
There’s a lot of corrupt in my country as well even couches and team owners are involve to this so fixed matches are really possible though few teams and players caught already. This is a bad example for every aspiring players, they should not be on a team where they fixed the match so they can earn some extra money even if it could hurt their own reputation, well money talks everybody will follow.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: adzino on October 19, 2021, 09:21:46 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

You are asking if a match fixing is a real thing or not? Of course it is something that does happen from time to time. Though it will never be obvious. Often times money is involved. The team (hosts and the organizers are also involved sometimes) that loses deliberately gets paid a lot. It is something that violates the game rules and if caught those teams are banned from playing and hefty fines are imposed on them. It is usually the whole team or just some players that are involved in fixing. As far as I know, even if their teammates know about it, they say nothing out of fear.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: samcrypto on October 19, 2021, 09:44:13 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Its happening in most sports even on a top sports in the world, I believe there’s a fixed matches there and that’s where most of the team clubs make money. Players are well informed about it, maybe not all but I think the ace player knows this so he can throw the game not so obvious.

If you do bet, know the risk of that because your source might not be legit and you might lose much money because of that, don’t be greedy to bet on fixed matches.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 19, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Its happening in most sports even on a top sports in the world, I believe there’s a fixed matches there and that’s where most of the team clubs make money. Players are well informed about it, maybe not all but I think the ace player knows this so he can throw the game not so obvious.

If you do bet, know the risk of that because your source might not be legit and you might lose much money because of that, don’t be greedy to bet on fixed matches.

it's interesting how risk management is important for gamblers as much as it is for traders, specially if they want to make money on the long run and not only spend it, I know some gamblers don't care too and just use it as a way to have fun, not seeking returns


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Quidat on October 19, 2021, 10:17:06 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Its happening in most sports even on a top sports in the world, I believe there’s a fixed matches there and that’s where most of the team clubs make money. Players are well informed about it, maybe not all but I think the ace player knows this so he can throw the game not so obvious.

If you do bet, know the risk of that because your source might not be legit and you might lose much money because of that, don’t be greedy to bet on fixed matches.

it's interesting how risk management is important for gamblers as much as it is for traders, specially if they want to make money on the long run and not only spend it, I know some gamblers don't care too and just use it as a way to have fun, not seeking returns
Different people does have different impressions which it is really just normal to have different choices on where people been doing.Risk management is a must have because if you dont know on how
to handle up yourself then you would really most likely ending up on bad decisions and when it comes to fixed matches thing then these things does really exist but pointing out
with your very own eyes is really hard.You couldnt tell if a particular game was fixed or totally fair and square.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 24Kt on October 19, 2021, 10:18:36 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Its happening in most sports even on a top sports in the world, I believe there’s a fixed matches there and that’s where most of the team clubs make money. Players are well informed about it, maybe not all but I think the ace player knows this so he can throw the game not so obvious.

If you do bet, know the risk of that because your source might not be legit and you might lose much money because of that, don’t be greedy to bet on fixed matches.

I don't know how you will gauge the authenticity of the source in this kind of game. Because some will sell their info just for the money. But fixed matches is really happening, but only those that were caught came to the knowledge of the public. Maybe bet on sports with less likelihood of fixing the results. Because some sports are easy to rig like baseball, basketball, boxing or even football. If you are very familiar with sports and athletes, I believe, you can spot a rigged game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oceat on October 19, 2021, 11:57:18 PM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Players will feel bad if they know the match is fixed though I think some of them know because if not then they knight play their best to win. Also, some players are the one who are being paid to throw the game and in my country, a lot of players are being caught for arranging fixed matches, well this is really exist and its too risky to bet with them, I’d rather not bet because its not a sure profit.
There’s a lot of corrupt in my country as well even couches and team owners are involve to this so fixed matches are really possible though few teams and players caught already. This is a bad example for every aspiring players, they should not be on a team where they fixed the match so they can earn some extra money even if it could hurt their own reputation, well money talks everybody will follow.
Expect it already that soon that team will be disbanded and the person who started it will pay for the consequences he has made. Oftentimes, fixed matches or rigged games happened and you will notice some of while some are not that noticeable but when you do you will see the very obvious that a certain player won't do in his past matches will be suddenly doing it over and over again. And yes, money is always involved in this part no matter what you say. It's up to them if they continue to act as an unprofessional then they might end their career very soon.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 20, 2021, 12:52:08 AM
For the most part no one has any idea when matches are actually being fixed, so really it’s mostly just a bunch of conjecture when people are trying to say they know a match is fixed. I mean unless they have a friend on the team who straight up told them, I’m not believing it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fundamentals Of on October 20, 2021, 01:30:18 AM
There are so many rumors of fixed matches. And there are real cases of fixed matches I think. But most of them, if not all, are local matches. I always doubt match fixing is really existing when it involves large and very popular international leagues such as UEFA or FIBA and famous teams such as Barcelona or Manchester United.

In a fixed match, I think the one who is privy to the arrangements are the management and coaching staff.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: alegotardo on October 20, 2021, 01:40:35 AM
Obviously this is the worst way to bet.
As real as they may be... I won't deny it, despite being very susceptible to blows.
But the chances of winning are much smaller than choosing yourself and betting on the matches you want and that you know the teams better.
In addition of course to paying cheaper, because in these fixed bets a percentage ends up with the middleman.
There is no advantage, tell your friend to run away from it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: rodskee on October 20, 2021, 02:03:28 AM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Its happening in most sports even on a top sports in the world, I believe there’s a fixed matches there and that’s where most of the team clubs make money. Players are well informed about it, maybe not all but I think the ace player knows this so he can throw the game not so obvious.
Illegal jobs are operating in all the part of the world as long as there are profiteering surely there is illegal activities .

And also there are Big fishes involved in these so players are just need to comply or else they will lose their careers .

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If you do bet, know the risk of that because your source might not be legit and you might lose much money because of that, don’t be greedy to bet on fixed matches.
actually 80-90% of those offering fix matches are scams .


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: traderethereum on October 20, 2021, 02:58:19 AM
There are so many rumors of fixed matches. And there are real cases of fixed matches I think. But most of them, if not all, are local matches. I always doubt match fixing is really existing when it involves large and very popular international leagues such as UEFA or FIBA and famous teams such as Barcelona or Manchester United.

In a fixed match, I think the one who is privy to the arrangements are the management and coaching staff.
Maybe it will not be too difficult to fix matches in the local matches as they know all the people in that circle so they can handle all of them if they do not want to follow them.
But in the international leagues with many countries involved, they are hard to do fixed matches as their grade is not too high compared to the other instances.
But they will try to search for the opportunity to make more money from that matches.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fundamentals Of on October 20, 2021, 03:04:33 AM
There are so many rumors of fixed matches. And there are real cases of fixed matches I think. But most of them, if not all, are local matches. I always doubt match fixing is really existing when it involves large and very popular international leagues such as UEFA or FIBA and famous teams such as Barcelona or Manchester United.

In a fixed match, I think the one who is privy to the arrangements are the management and coaching staff.
Maybe it will not be too difficult to fix matches in the local matches as they know all the people in that circle so they can handle all of them if they do not want to follow them.
But in the international leagues with many countries involved, they are hard to do fixed matches as their grade is not too high compared to the other instances.
But they will try to search for the opportunity to make more money from that matches.

Not only because the people are familiar and even easily accessible but also because local games are not as carefully watched and monitored by the hundreds of millions around the world. That is a difficult thing to arrange when movements by players are already very familiar to fans, analysts, commentators, etc.

There were talks for example of certain NBA games to be fixed matches. Although I don't have enough knowledge to immediately conclude that these are all rumors, I think they are very difficult to execute especially when the teams have very popular players.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: famososMuertos on October 20, 2021, 06:36:55 AM
It depends on the level professional at which sports specificaly talking are not so obvious, I recommend you watch a series called looser/netflix ... anyway the size of the commitment and the level of the league or sport determines the ease of cheating.

The people who handle this type of information, believe me they are not ordinary people, they make big bets, now if your friend is betting on neighborhood games, I mean...the strange thing is that the cheating is not happening.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bakasabo on October 20, 2021, 07:13:05 AM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Finestream on October 20, 2021, 07:46:44 AM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: OgNasty on October 20, 2021, 08:13:39 AM
There's a documentary series on Netflix right now called "Bad Sport" that did a great episode on fixed matches of ASU basketball games primarily by a player named Stevin 'Hedake' Smith.  I was unfamiliar with the story and thought it was well done.  Amazing how people can take advantage of others...  He got himself in debt for a few thousand dollars and ends up throwing away a promising career in basketball so that some rich guy can make millions of dollar gambling.  These are the stories you don't hear often about the desperation of people to get out of debt by any means necessary.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: madnessteat on October 20, 2021, 09:50:42 AM
I hope he is really doing well (he must be very strong in betting, even if he spends money on various "insiders" he remains in profit). I hope this is not the case when a person embellishes his successes (hides his failures) because he takes this activity too seriously. I also have certain ideas that I want to try on real bets, but at the moment I am still testing them and do not want to risk real money.

I worked with this guy in the same organization, and every morning we drove to work in the same car. While I was trying to expand his understanding of cryptocurrencies he was telling me about betting and showing me his successful bets on his smartphone. If he was happy in the morning it meant he was able to increase his capital last night. This guy is the only person I know personally who makes good money through betting. I've never met anyone else like him.



Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: molsewid on October 20, 2021, 09:56:34 AM
Obviously this is the worst way to bet.
As real as they may be... I won't deny it, despite being very susceptible to blows.
But the chances of winning are much smaller than choosing yourself and betting on the matches you want and that you know the teams better.
In addition of course to paying cheaper, because in these fixed bets a percentage ends up with the middleman.
There is no advantage, tell your friend to run away from it.

Betting in a fixed type of game will only be beneficial to those who get the legit score for fix match but to those who didn't know that they are betting on the fix match is totally unfair. It's a total small chance of winning to those bettors betting on a fair style and also to those got the leaked score but not sure if the source are legit or not, total kind of risk. However, regarding this matter it made me realize how could we know if the game is a fixed game or not?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: paxmao on October 20, 2021, 10:03:52 AM
I have been hearing about fixed match in the past and I later found out that it really exist and I happen to be among the players for which a particular match is fixed I will choose not to play the match because my mind will not be at peace. I don't think players will be informed about whether the match is being fixed or not.
Its happening in most sports even on a top sports in the world, I believe there’s a fixed matches there and that’s where most of the team clubs make money. Players are well informed about it, maybe not all but I think the ace player knows this so he can throw the game not so obvious.

If you do bet, know the risk of that because your source might not be legit and you might lose much money because of that, don’t be greedy to bet on fixed matches.

it's interesting how risk management is important for gamblers as much as it is for traders, specially if they want to make money on the long run and not only spend it, I know some gamblers don't care too and just use it as a way to have fun, not seeking returns

Risk management for fixing matches is best performed by simply ignoring those sports that are well known to have that type of issue. Boxing at certain categories is one of them and even all are subject to possible fixing, some are much easier. e.g. large team sports are more difficult to fix. However, you can use it to your advantage if you are very  knowledgeable on a certain sport.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 20, 2021, 10:41:35 AM
I hope he is really doing well (he must be very strong in betting, even if he spends money on various "insiders" he remains in profit). I hope this is not the case when a person embellishes his successes (hides his failures) because he takes this activity too seriously. I also have certain ideas that I want to try on real bets, but at the moment I am still testing them and do not want to risk real money.

I worked with this guy in the same organization, and every morning we drove to work in the same car. While I was trying to expand his understanding of cryptocurrencies he was telling me about betting and showing me his successful bets on his smartphone. If he was happy in the morning it meant he was able to increase his capital last night. This guy is the only person I know personally who makes good money through betting. I've never met anyone else like him.

Cool. You are very lucky to have such an acquaintance, at least you can learn from him a lot of applied information (like avoiding the reduction of limits that bookmakers apply to successful gamblers very often). In betting, such information is very valuable (due to the fact that you are confident in its source), despite the fact that everything can be found on the internet.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: madnessteat on October 20, 2021, 11:00:25 AM
I hope he is really doing well (he must be very strong in betting, even if he spends money on various "insiders" he remains in profit). I hope this is not the case when a person embellishes his successes (hides his failures) because he takes this activity too seriously. I also have certain ideas that I want to try on real bets, but at the moment I am still testing them and do not want to risk real money.

I worked with this guy in the same organization, and every morning we drove to work in the same car. While I was trying to expand his understanding of cryptocurrencies he was telling me about betting and showing me his successful bets on his smartphone. If he was happy in the morning it meant he was able to increase his capital last night. This guy is the only person I know personally who makes good money through betting. I've never met anyone else like him.

Cool. You are very lucky to have such an acquaintance, at least you can learn from him a lot of applied information (like avoiding the reduction of limits that bookmakers apply to successful gamblers very often). In betting, such information is very valuable (due to the fact that you are confident in its source), despite the fact that everything can be found on the internet.

I did not find his information useful as I do not bet often due to the constant lack of time to analyze, read articles, etc. For the same reason he never got into cryptocurrencies.

Most probably because of that betting and gambling for me remains just a pastime and not a way to earn money, in pursuit of which many people lose more than they earn.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Reid on October 20, 2021, 11:10:34 AM
Fixed matches are real.
One Mafia member already wrote a book about that and it was said in the interview that he was given permission to write the book as long as other names will not be included or else it will be his life that will be on the line.

How does it work? Hell if we know. The secrecy of that is intact and all those who will get the information will be their customers only. Those who pay in exchange of the information given to them. If your friend received the leaked information it could be fake or not, you wouldn't know.
Other groups could be confusing the bettors to balance the bet.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on October 20, 2021, 12:14:37 PM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: robelneo on October 20, 2021, 12:45:48 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes it's real it can be fixed, many individuals are collaborating to fix a game, some are perfectly done and there are times it is very obvious or evident, it's hard to prove them unless there are whistleblowers or the results and actions are very obvious, mafias and high rollers are doing this for their gain, that is why sports organizations have their own body to investigate and look for irregularities after the game.

I don't know how your friend got the info, it should be confidential to those involved and those bettors if your friend got it right and he knows it's fixed it's better for him to be quiet, he is risking himself if he exposes it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 20, 2021, 01:56:05 PM
Different people does have different impressions which it is really just normal to have different choices on where people been doing.Risk management is a must have because if you dont know on how
to handle up yourself then you would really most likely ending up on bad decisions and when it comes to fixed matches thing then these things does really exist but pointing out
with your very own eyes is really hard.You couldnt tell if a particular game was fixed or totally fair and square.

yes, this is quite interesting too
how comfortable a person is in a determined position/investment/situation will vary depending on their time preferences, liquidity necessity, spending on daily life and many other factors
that story about even twin brothers having way different lifestyles depending on education and personal preferences


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Rufsilf on October 20, 2021, 02:45:28 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes this happens in reality, but only few or just the top brass and the management knows about it because if they were to spread this to others like friends or family then that might put them in a dangerous situations. There are also some rumors that the coach or referees are paid to get the game fixed to extend the league or season.

I don't think that the players can have an option to decline whatever the managements tells them to do, because either way these players are also getting paid to keep them silent.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Pmalek on October 20, 2021, 03:21:38 PM
Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: xSkylarx on October 20, 2021, 03:49:45 PM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 20, 2021, 06:55:14 PM
Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

in this case you mention makes more sense to consider the possibility of some games being fixed
but do you think this also happens in entire plays where the whole team would know? coordinating dozens of people without the information leaking would be... hard


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fortify on October 20, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


One thing to consider that your friend probably does not realize or he has an extremely rare contact who knows what they're talking about (highly unlikely) is that people who rig these games have to pay big money to pull it off and it is still extremely high risk. Unless we're talking about some small scale college sports team where big bets would be obvious and investigated - making large profits difficult, then there would be no reason for the person fixing the game to give up this information. It exposes the person rigging the game to more risk if a single extra person found out, which could result in their own large bets being forfeited if discovered and future profits from the inside cheater getting wrecked. It's highly unlikely your friend really had any special information.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Sled on October 20, 2021, 08:38:24 PM
Obviously this is the worst way to bet.
As real as they may be... I won't deny it, despite being very susceptible to blows.
But the chances of winning are much smaller than choosing yourself and betting on the matches you want and that you know the teams better.
In addition of course to paying cheaper, because in these fixed bets a percentage ends up with the middleman.
There is no advantage, tell your friend to run away from it.
Honestly, betting like this is just like you are betting to lose. Yeah, seeing no way to win and it was just a waste of time. I'm not sure how gamblers will react when they know it was a fixed game or the players themselves. I'd rather go betting to the real match, this fixed game emphasizing how manipulation can happen inside the casinos.

But anyway, if we'd come just for entertainment, well, that seems okay and you'll never get frustrated with the result.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: wxa7115 on October 20, 2021, 08:50:08 PM
Fixed matches are real.
One Mafia member already wrote a book about that and it was said in the interview that he was given permission to write the book as long as other names will not be included or else it will be his life that will be on the line.

How does it work? Hell if we know. The secrecy of that is intact and all those who will get the information will be their customers only. Those who pay in exchange of the information given to them. If your friend received the leaked information it could be fake or not, you wouldn't know.
Other groups could be confusing the bettors to balance the bet.

Unfortunately this is the truth, it may seem something that you only watch in movies or something similar but it happens all the time, we must remember that even if most of the time we concentrate on the most popular sports and leagues there are many sport events happening all over the world in leagues that are not really popular.

And even if many casinos will not give any attention to those events that does not mean there are not local bookies you can place a bet on those events, so there is a strong incentive to fix games, and since those players do not earn a lot of money they can be easily convinced to lose a game if the money is right for them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: henmark on October 20, 2021, 08:54:32 PM
Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Match fixing is illegal in my country hence I will eave off that team once I come know about the match fixing. Usually the highly talented team are the primary target for bookies to get them fixed for a huge money. So, next time if you come across an underdog is winning then money might have played a very big role. Shocking and surprises in sports industry is most common but unfortunately bookies exploit those similar salutations.

In my opinion, fixed matches are the real cancer in gambling industry hence I believe that we must stay from such matches.  


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Smartvirus on October 20, 2021, 08:57:51 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.
You were with your friend who claims that he got some random numbers that were sent to him and he was placing bets, you could have seen first hand whether he won or not and you could have asked him how he got them. It was far better than asking us here who does not have any idea how to find fixed matches  :P.
I think this is far from it. Your most unlikely to get an answer on how these games got fixed and the numbers went round. A magician never shows the what's beneath his sleeves, that would be letting the cat out if the bag. They tend to keep this a secrete for some 9bvious confidential reasons though, I doubt games are really fixed, its always a result of some deep prediction but then, the results can always go sideways as it is with predictions and betting. There would be lucks at times but, fixing bets is really rear especially in top leagues but possible in the minor leagues where you see a lot of dominance from from particular time.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Quidat on October 20, 2021, 09:16:24 PM
Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Match fixing is illegal in my country hence I will eave off that team once I come know about the match fixing. Usually the highly talented team are the primary target for bookies to get them fixed for a huge money. So, next time if you come across an underdog is winning then money might have played a very big role. Shocking and surprises in sports industry is most common but unfortunately bookies exploit those similar salutations.

In my opinion, fixed matches are the real cancer in gambling industry hence I believe that we must stay from such matches.  
No matter where you go then fixed matching would always been illegal because if its allowed then it cant really be called betting on the first place since it is already on that manipulative side of things.
Whenever you do get some info's like these on random stranger then it is mostly a fraud or scam and dont tend to believe it or even into someone which are known in sports.
You cant be sure if those are just random or wild guesses or totally a real fixed matches but getting these kind of info is something really hard to to acquire unless if youre filthy rich.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: goldkingcoiner on October 20, 2021, 10:27:00 PM
Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

A lot of scammers/spammers for example, on Telegram, like to sell their lies because they know that telegram is so anonymous that nobody will ever come after them. Obviously not for small amounts like 10 dollars.

The REAL fixers don't sell their info. That would make no sense since they would be losing money that they could win instead.

I doubt more than 10 people will ever be in on the real info.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fatunad on October 20, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

A lot of scammers/spammers for example, on Telegram, like to sell their lies because they know that telegram is so anonymous that nobody will ever come after them. Obviously not for small amounts like 10 dollars.

The REAL fixers don't sell their info. That would make no sense since they would be losing money that they could win instead.

I doubt more than 10 people will ever be in on the real info.
Out of 10 people then 10 of those are fake and scammers and also $10 for leaked info is just too dumb for you to believe on and you would just be basically wasting up your own money on believing with those bullshit things.
You should be at least having  that common sense for you to able to avoid such scenario.Fixed matches do exist but you couldnt expect that it would be sell out with 10 bucks.
You would need to shell out thousands of dollars before you could attain those things but you should be wise that they wont really be something easy to attain or can be found.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mv1986 on October 20, 2021, 11:27:20 PM
Nobody likes fixed matches but then again, the question is how do you find out if there was any fixing? I don't think its possible in most cases. And if a match is fixed not many people will know about it, if any at all.

The whole point is keeping the fixing under tight wraps so nobody else gets in on the action.

But as far as fixing them, its all up to the top dogs. If they want to fix it, they will and nobody will be the wiser. ::)

Yes I also doubt that. Fixing matches is a tough thing to pull off even for the criminals. I wonder, why would those who intend to fix matches want that information to be publicly available? Does that help them in any way?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on October 21, 2021, 12:35:26 AM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.
What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Victorycoin on October 21, 2021, 06:13:10 AM
It is possible to identify the match fixing plan by monitoring the gamblers market before the match by monitoring the market where the gamblers have during the match, one can get a definite idea about distorting the match. When match fixing is done through gamblers, gamblers communicate with players team officials and or referees and usually make money transactions communication or money transactions between them can sometimes be identified and legal action can be taken against them by the court or the organizing group of a particular game. Again sometimes the whole team is involved in match fixing for future convenience which is very difficult to prove.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: xSkylarx on October 21, 2021, 07:03:43 AM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.
What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

That's why, before the whistleblower made it public, it was most likely dead. Usually, fixed matches entail a large sum of money, which is extremely important. Officers are also paid, so they are more than likely to do their job. We can't do much about it, but just the owner or people around the game are legitimate, but when it comes to money, I believe that's when fixed matches occur.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bolawin on October 21, 2021, 07:19:08 AM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Kasabus on October 21, 2021, 07:20:53 AM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D
This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Pmalek on October 21, 2021, 07:33:21 AM
in this case you mention makes more sense to consider the possibility of some games being fixed
but do you think this also happens in entire plays where the whole team would know?
Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A. One match of Fiorentina and another team (I forgot which one it was) was fixed. But it wasn't fixed to profit from illegal betting. Fiorentina's president was a good friend of the guy who was the president of the opposing team. One of the clubs needed a draw to avoid being related to Serie B and the two friends had a meeting and agreed that their head-to-head meeting would be a tie. In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bolawin on October 21, 2021, 07:48:40 AM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D
This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.
yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Davidvictorson on October 21, 2021, 09:02:36 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Match fixing is illegal and run by criminals who are probably former players or player agents. And their modus operandi is mostly bet- related. These folks who do are mostly aiming to make financial gains as they consider it a high-profit and low risk. The long and short is that it is a crime in most countries that could make the offender be sent to jail.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 21, 2021, 09:04:47 AM
Cool. You are very lucky to have such an acquaintance, at least you can learn from him a lot of applied information (like avoiding the reduction of limits that bookmakers apply to successful gamblers very often). In betting, such information is very valuable (due to the fact that you are confident in its source), despite the fact that everything can be found on the internet.

I did not find his information useful as I do not bet often due to the constant lack of time to analyze, read articles, etc. For the same reason he never got into cryptocurrencies.

Most probably because of that betting and gambling for me remains just a pastime and not a way to earn money, in pursuit of which many people lose more than they earn.

I don’t know why you don’t find this interesting. If this activity is scalable (that is, if there is a way to win $ 100 a week, then using the same method you can win $ 10,000 a week), which is most likely so, then by delving into it you can provide yourself financially and at least free yourself from the need to walk to work. And if you want to continue spending your free time on the topic of cryptocurrencies. In general, in my opinion, successful people interesting regardless of the area in which they are successful (be it gambling, betting or something else).


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Betwrong on October 21, 2021, 09:24:55 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Some low level games in some rural areas are fixed, that's for sure, and maybe those friends of your friend are sending him some "useful numbers", so to speak. And yeah, some money could be earned this way, but to me it's almost on the same level of dangerousness as a bank robbery. I mean, even if it's successful, most likely you'll end up very badly pretty soon.

It's actually a good thing, if your friend is just being scammed, like some people assumed in this thread. It's much worse if he's connected to people involved in match fixing.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Saisher on October 21, 2021, 09:25:45 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


There is corruption in every organization and country much more in sporting events because they have a lot of money to be made from fixing games, if you received a tip about a game that will be fix check where it is coming be quiet and just bet, don't make a noise out of it because you are facing a big mafia and you will get in trouble by getting it on the public, there are organizations and agency that deal with it let them do their job.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: hahay on October 21, 2021, 09:43:01 AM
I personally don't really believe in that, but if you want to give it a try then I think there's nothing wrong with that either. Because after all, betting will be fine when we only bet with money that is ready to lose, right. So with the initial experiment that you do at least it will give you the results, with you already having the results then you are free to continue betting that way or not, but for me personally I will not believe it easily but it depends on the situation and conditions also.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: aioc on October 21, 2021, 10:38:30 AM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D
This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.
yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

If you are watching games that you are betting hundreds or thousands of times, you'll get a hint if the match or game is fixed, there's really no way to know unless you get the information on a piece of very reliable information, or there is a whistle blower.

Countries put huge fines and penalties on game fixing because it takes away the fairness and excitement of the sports, sports should not be decided by one group but the efforts of players, teams, and organizations, sports fans will not patronize sports that's riddle with game-fixing.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on October 21, 2021, 11:00:13 AM
Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.
What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

That's why, before the whistleblower made it public, it was most likely dead. Usually, fixed matches entail a large sum of money, which is extremely important. Officers are also paid, so they are more than likely to do their job. We can't do much about it, but just the owner or people around the game are legitimate, but when it comes to money, I believe that's when fixed matches occur.
Yes, that is because people who do that do not want to see the public know so that they will shut the person's mouth. Related to the money, they can hide it from the public because they are smart to make the secret transaction in a secret place. Only if some people related to that thing can speak to the media, the fixed matches will blow up and be investigated by the authority. Otherwise, that will continue for a long time.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: AicecreaME on October 21, 2021, 11:16:33 AM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D
This is more reliable than from those people who claim that they know a game is fixed and they have a tip to sell. Well, as for me, I also have a feeling I know a game is fixed or not, but unfortunately, I don't win all my bet, so it's still a gambling for me and I'm just guessing at all.
yeah its more like a guess because who can verify anyway, right?

This makes your chance of winning like 40:50 if you accidentally bet on a fixed match, because you're not sure who's going to win. I mean if you made a bet thinking it is a decent match and trusted your information, but the truth is it is a fixed match, the only thing that could give you profit is when you bet on the right team that fixed the match. Fixed match is very annoying because all of your efforts researching on both teams is just nonsense.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: yazher on October 21, 2021, 12:03:42 PM
Fix matches are common in every country and I think it's just a matter of paying high and everyone who is involved is happy with the payment and no one will ever talk about it considering the possible bad consequences if they gonna open their mouth about it. Imagine, if it's not real, then how are we having this kind of topic in the first place?

There are some claims and we only know about it because mostly we see it on TV or sometimes the people involved in it have no other chance but to confess everything they know.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ralle14 on October 21, 2021, 12:41:35 PM
Fix matches are common in every country and I think it's just a matter of paying high and everyone who is involved is happy with the payment and no one will ever talk about it considering the possible bad consequences if they gonna open their mouth about it. Imagine, if it's not real, then how are we having this kind of topic in the first place?

There are some claims and we only know about it because mostly we see it on TV or sometimes the people involved in it have no other chance but to confess everything they know.
I guess this topic isn't discussed as much that's why some people like OP are having some doubts about the likeliness of match fixing during this time and I don't blame him since we rarely see this type of case pop up in the news.

I've linked this thread before but for those who are interested here's an example (https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/je7vbd/yellow_submarine_players_were_offered_more_than/) from the Dota scene where one of the pro players was asked to throw their upcoming match.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 21, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Fix matches are common in every country and I think it's just a matter of paying high and everyone who is involved is happy with the payment and no one will ever talk about it considering the possible bad consequences if they gonna open their mouth about it. Imagine, if it's not real, then how are we having this kind of topic in the first place?

There are some claims and we only know about it because mostly we see it on TV or sometimes the people involved in it have no other chance but to confess everything they know.

the thing is, how you find a way to coordinate a full team or two full teams to fix results?
if its fixing one specific thing like faults or whatever than it may be easier, but fixing goals in soccer, or points in a basketball game seems like quite hard to do... does it really happens?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 21, 2021, 02:22:27 PM
I guess this topic isn't discussed as much that's why some people like OP are having some doubts about the likeliness of match fixing during this time and I don't blame him since we rarely see this type of case pop up in the news.

I've linked this thread before but for those who are interested here's an example (https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/je7vbd/yellow_submarine_players_were_offered_more_than/) from the Dota scene where one of the pro players was asked to throw their upcoming match.

I would not call this information interesting and proving something - all we see is a screenshot of a message with an offer of money and a refusal. I'm 99.99% sure that this is an ordinary message from a troll that all famous personalities receive a lot on a wide variety of topics. The very idea of such a thing seems dubious to me - would you agree (even to a super-profitable offer) from an anonymous person, despite the fact that the very fact of your consent would jeopardize your entire career (and possibly your freedom)?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: fortunecrypto on October 21, 2021, 03:01:05 PM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D

They usually fix the game on the last part of the game, they make it close heading to the last part of the game before fixing, there's no way to tell at the start of the game or a match, I don't know you spot it because you did not go further, I have seen a game being fix in a basketball but it happens in the last three minutes of the game, no way to tell accurately unless it comes from a reliable source.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: qwertyup23 on October 21, 2021, 05:03:16 PM
i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  ;D

Like what I previously mentioned, there was a time that a game in basketball was investigated due to match fixing. You can actually observe their pattern and their movements showing their disinterest and their intentional throwing of the game by the second quarter.
To be honest, it is kinda difficult to spot if a game is fixed. Lots of factors to be considered as every thing is a case-to-case basis.

If you guys are curious, here is the YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UPeeprZs0U


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on October 21, 2021, 05:23:24 PM
Of course fixed matches exist but as practice shows many sources that provide information on fixed matches are very often wrong.

I do not think that players have the opportunity to change the score in a fixed match because they will not risk going against the interests of the club and value their careers.
That may be true in powerful leagues, however we know there is a lot of amateur sports in which people still take bets, in fact before the pandemic I used to see boxing fights in which the boxers fighting were just starting their career and it was full of people, but more importantly there is a lot of informal betting going on, so I would not be surprised if there was so much money moving around those fights that there was a strong incentive to fix them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lakai01 on October 21, 2021, 05:35:50 PM
Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A.
-snip-
In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.
Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fatunad on October 21, 2021, 09:59:13 PM
Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A.
-snip-
In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.
Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.
No one would really spill out the beans since they've been paid out well and for sure there would be some sort of personal agreements or terms to those people who could be possibly involved.
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: harizen on October 21, 2021, 11:28:09 PM
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.

Not just for leak info but at least we can somehow determine a game if it's rigged or not. Sometimes, just because an underdog defeats the favorites, it's always subject to rigged or being a fixed match for others. I doubt a defeat to the underdog can be staged properly. It can't even be done by a good rehearsal.

A suspected fixed match does have lots of flaws just by watching it live. That's why no need for leaked information regarding that. But that fixed match will not be considered a fixed match unless there's someone who will file a legal basis for that.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fatunad on October 21, 2021, 11:51:16 PM
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.

Not just for leak info but at least we can somehow determine a game if it's rigged or not. Sometimes, just because an underdog defeats the favorites, it's always subject to rigged or being a fixed match for others. I doubt a defeat to the underdog can be staged properly. It can't even be done by a good rehearsal.

A suspected fixed match does have lots of flaws just by watching it live. That's why no need for leaked information regarding that. But that fixed match will not be considered a fixed match unless there's someone who will file a legal basis for that.
You're definitely right on this one because fans arent really that dumb nor blind on not to notice those things but it doesnt really mean that underdogs cant beat out the favorites but it should really be in justifiable manner
because we could really say that something is happening if you arent really that convinced that those underdogs had beaten out the stronger ones and its true that this cant be done swiftly and smoothly no matter
how they do make out some rehearsals or practice on executing for it not to be that suspicious thats why its really hard to believe on with those moments as of these years.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: traderethereum on October 22, 2021, 03:21:46 AM
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.

Not just for leak info but at least we can somehow determine a game if it's rigged or not. Sometimes, just because an underdog defeats the favorites, it's always subject to rigged or being a fixed match for others. I doubt a defeat to the underdog can be staged properly. It can't even be done by a good rehearsal.

A suspected fixed match does have lots of flaws just by watching it live. That's why no need for leaked information regarding that. But that fixed match will not be considered a fixed match unless there's someone who will file a legal basis for that.
Maybe we can see what the jury in the field will do if some player is making a mistake because when I know that thing, sometimes, I just think that the jury was on the opposite side.
If that happens, I usually do not have an interest in continuing watching the match and maybe I will do other things.
But still, it is hard to suspect a fixed match as we do not have clear information about that, although the jury can support the opponent by not giving a yellow or even a red card.
That matches will continue but the audience can judge what they watch.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mindrust on October 22, 2021, 04:56:20 AM

They are real but you'll probably get scammed believing that you can actually access that information. Whoever selling/telling you these matches is either scamming you or just lying because why not. If I had that information I wouldn't share it with anyone because the more people bet on that game, the more suspicions it would raise and when enough people look at that game, the bets might get cancelled. 99.9% of the time the information you get will be nothing but bullshit.

I actually never thought about it that way but you are absolutely right of course. If they claim to already have a match that is fixed and they want you to join their "private group" for a certain entry fee, then it just has to be a scam because it would mean that those guys already have paid the players or referees in order to fix the outcome of that match, so why would they give away those informations now after they have already paid? One reason could be that they can not bet a to big amount of money on the match because it would be to obvious and the bookmaker would become suspicious. But if they sell the information to other people they could make additional profit, but i guess that would be too dangerous.

This is the art of scamming.

You always try to make the victims believe that they are scamming you (it is a good deal) but in reality you are scamming them. The oldest trick in the world.

Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Reatim on October 22, 2021, 05:27:49 AM
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.

Not just for leak info but at least we can somehow determine a game if it's rigged or not. Sometimes, just because an underdog defeats the favorites, it's always subject to rigged or being a fixed match for others. I doubt a defeat to the underdog can be staged properly. It can't even be done by a good rehearsal.

A suspected fixed match does have lots of flaws just by watching it live. That's why no need for leaked information regarding that. But that fixed match will not be considered a fixed match unless there's someone who will file a legal basis for that.
Maybe we can see what the jury in the field will do if some player is making a mistake because when I know that thing, sometimes, I just think that the jury was on the opposite side.
Jury does not confirm to be in good side always because sometimes they are the one who is involved also in such cases or at least they are part of the Payroll.

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If that happens, I usually do not have an interest in continuing watching the match and maybe I will do other things.
but if you are bettor then you have no way to stop watching as the interest to find if you are win or lose.
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But still, it is hard to suspect a fixed match as we do not have clear information about that, although the jury can support the opponent by not giving a yellow or even a red card.
That matches will continue but the audience can judge what they watch.
we are the one who must decide in which, because the problem in fixed matches are nothing to be found unless the involved will admit it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Questat on October 22, 2021, 05:54:15 AM
Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

This could be true, but somehow an ebook would teach us how to manage ourself in gambling, actually bankroll management and discipline are both very important, winning a bet is quite different, it cannot be written in the book that is up to a gambler's ability to analyze the game before putting a bet and win.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: iv4n on October 22, 2021, 08:19:22 AM
Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

This could be true, but somehow an ebook would teach us how to manage ourself in gambling, actually bankroll management and discipline are both very important, winning a bet is quite different, it cannot be written in the book that is up to a gambler's ability to analyze the game before putting a bet and win.

I believe that reading a book can be helpful for people who are getting in touch with something for the first time... I didn't read any books, all that I learned came from people who were doing it, and in discussions with them and practicing I learned about gambling! And I think it's a better way, and a lot easier to understand! As Mindrust says "99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit." This is because you need a piece of simple information, but a book writer needs a whole book, so he is using long and complicated sentences, he is decorating everything he can... so reading it you can get lost in all the unnecessary stuff!


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 22, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.

I think this happens in all leagues (for example, in the Russian one it happened very often). I think there is an explanation for this and it is not necessarily a matter of fixing matches. Quite often it turns out that the team in 2nd place has no chances to take the first place (the gap from the leader's team is too great), but it also cannot fall below (the competitors are far behind the 2nd place). Therefore, such a team does not have 100% motivation to play, and the team that tries to avoid relegation from the league has and therefore wins.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ralle14 on October 22, 2021, 10:09:02 AM
I would not call this information interesting and proving something - all we see is a screenshot of a message with an offer of money and a refusal. I'm 99.99% sure that this is an ordinary message from a troll that all famous personalities receive a lot on a wide variety of topics. The very idea of such a thing seems dubious to me - would you agree (even to a super-profitable offer) from an anonymous person, despite the fact that the very fact of your consent would jeopardize your entire career (and possibly your freedom)?
Sure it doesn't say much but there's always a possibility as i've seen other esports team in the same level get caught and do these type of stuff.

Another recent case is this tournament (https://liquipedia.net/dota2/DPL-CDA_Professional_League/Season_1#) where Newbee got caught fixing matches and the tournament organizers dropped them right away.

It's obvious that most players wouldn't risk their career for a certain amount of money but there are other desperate players who are willing to put their career on the line.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: passwordnow on October 22, 2021, 10:34:29 AM
That matches will continue but the audience can judge what they watch.
Those fixed matches are always easy to spot if you're actually a researcher and know-how both teams or the players play. You'll get the idea if they're doing their best or just trying to play the game itself which is already a game that they shouldn't play - a term for those that don't seriously do it. That's why some die-hard fans have a say when they find it odd upon watching a game that's sold.



Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 22, 2021, 10:46:28 AM
I would not call this information interesting and proving something - all we see is a screenshot of a message with an offer of money and a refusal. I'm 99.99% sure that this is an ordinary message from a troll that all famous personalities receive a lot on a wide variety of topics. The very idea of such a thing seems dubious to me - would you agree (even to a super-profitable offer) from an anonymous person, despite the fact that the very fact of your consent would jeopardize your entire career (and possibly your freedom)?
Sure it doesn't say much but there's always a possibility as i've seen other esports team in the same level get caught and do these type of stuff.

Another recent case is this tournament (https://liquipedia.net/dota2/DPL-CDA_Professional_League/Season_1#) where Newbee got caught fixing matches and the tournament organizers dropped them right away.

It's obvious that most players wouldn't risk their career for a certain amount of money but there are other desperate players who are willing to put their career on the line.

An interesting case, but I would not compare events in such leagues with events in professional football leagues. Too different level of material interest, and hence the professional attitude to business. Look at the size of the prize money - they are ridiculous even for the top teams, it is not surprising that outsiders are trying at their own peril and risk to earn in other ways (I do not support them in this).

https://i.imgur.com/II5Wfoy.png


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: smyslov on October 22, 2021, 11:36:32 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


There's such a thing as game-fixing if you get a tip from a very reliable source and you are 100% sure of it, that's your chance to win big, it's still risky because there is such a thing as changing of decision from fixers, the game-fixing can make or break you if you believe that the result will come from a reliable source, game fixing is complicated and the organization is always on the watch for game fixing.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Questat on October 22, 2021, 11:58:41 AM
Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

This could be true, but somehow an ebook would teach us how to manage ourself in gambling, actually bankroll management and discipline are both very important, winning a bet is quite different, it cannot be written in the book that is up to a gambler's ability to analyze the game before putting a bet and win.

I believe that reading a book can be helpful for people who are getting in touch with something for the first time... I didn't read any books, all that I learned came from people who were doing it, and in discussions with them and practicing I learned about gambling! And I think it's a better way, and a lot easier to understand! As Mindrust says "99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit." This is because you need a piece of simple information, but a book writer needs a whole book, so he is using long and complicated sentences, he is decorating everything he can... so reading it you can get lost in all the unnecessary stuff!

That's why I don't read ebook as it's time consuming, I'm actually more attracted to reading a random posts like in a forum as I know they are more genuine and they share according to their experience. I have a lot of forums that I follow that's why I learn about sports betting, terms like sports rigging, line movement and trap, these are only few you'll learn from people who are experience enough in sports betting.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 22, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


There's such a thing as game-fixing if you get a tip from a very reliable source and you are 100% sure of it, that's your chance to win big, it's still risky because there is such a thing as changing of decision from fixers, the game-fixing can make or break you if you believe that the result will come from a reliable source, game fixing is complicated and the organization is always on the watch for game fixing.
Fixed games are rare and no one will give 100% assurance on the results so its our own responsibility if we are taking risks against such situations anyway fixing games are not legal so you can face legal issues even if you win the match and got rewards unless you are in an underworld casino.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ene1980 on October 22, 2021, 03:36:54 PM
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There's such a thing as game-fixing if you get a tip from a very reliable source and you are 100% sure of it, that's your chance to win big, it's still risky because there is such a thing as changing of decision from fixers, the game-fixing can make or break you if you believe that the result will come from a reliable source, game fixing is complicated and the organization is always on the watch for game fixing.
If you really think that a match is fixed, i will get away from the match because you cannot predict how the match will play out. But to think that you will get to hear about information if a match is fixed is ludicrous, either you are a big shot who has a friend who gambles and spends millions of dollars and even if it is fixed those information are not going anywhere until you have the authority to track their communications :P.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bonjouros on October 22, 2021, 04:11:59 PM
In contrast with its term fixed matches, I feel like assurance is not something that is merited out of it. Winning does not necessarily mean to be the outcome of indulging with fixed matches, not unless accurate information are gathered which can be considered as classified, thus money must be spent before such information come at hand.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: South Park on October 22, 2021, 05:10:40 PM
Back in 2006, when the Calciopoli scandal hit Italian Serie A.
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In such a scenario, you need both teams to know about it.
Ahhh those memories, I almost forgot about that Calciopoli scandal.

At the time, a number of clubs were involved, including Juventus. If I remember correctly, the involvement of the referees could also be proven, which puts the crown on the whole thing when both several clubs and the referees are involved.

But I also remember games in the German Bundesliga where the heavy favorites lost to complete underdogs at the end of the season, so that they managed to stay in the league. What surprises me is that in such cases all/most of the players and the coach have to be in on it. Otherwise, it would be very difficult for this to work cause the chance that someone will "spill the beans" is correspondingly high.
No one would really spill out the beans since they've been paid out well and for sure there would be some sort of personal agreements or terms to those people who could be possibly involved.
And its really hard to determine before but when the game starts then things turns out to be noticeable when you do see movements which arent casual for them for you to see.
Fixed matches are there and possible but its really hard to be proven out unless if there's some leaking info about it.
This is true, after all if someone makes a mistake most of the time the fans will just attribute this to an accident or to a temporary decrease on their performance level but they will no attribute this to cheating, most of the cheating scandals that we know about are the ones in which one of the participants decides to talk about it, so as long as the players and the ones fixing the matches remain silent it is very difficult to prove that what it is happening on the field is part of a fixed game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: dothebeats on October 22, 2021, 05:24:59 PM
Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Quidat on October 22, 2021, 07:46:02 PM
Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.
Wrong or unethical for others but for majority then this wont really be a bothersome thing which they could really make out bets if they do know that they could really take
advantage from that but the question is, how you would able to acquire those info? For sure you would need to shell out money to acquire those information
which you couldnt get elsewhere.Of course it wouuld really be needing up some consent from all people who do get involved for a fully fixed match game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 22, 2021, 08:47:47 PM
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You always try to make the victims believe that they are scamming you (it is a good deal) but in reality you are scamming them. The oldest trick in the world.

Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.
There was a time when the forum was infected with scammers like these, selling books claiming that they have some of the advanced tricks that they discovered to make money and other gambling related tricks and so on and there were many who would provide fake vouches and i am glad we are not seeing those stupid things here anymore.



Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 2double0 on October 22, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
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There was a time when the forum was infected with scammers like these, selling books claiming that they have some of the advanced tricks that they discovered to make money and other gambling related tricks and so on and there were many who would provide fake vouches and i am glad we are not seeing those stupid things here anymore.



Some vouches were made through really good 'now-Legendary' members of the forum so I guess they cannot be fake. Some methods worked too, and it is correct too that nobody would sell a winning strategy. But there are a few who don't have a big bankroll with them, they try to play with small funds and win big, then they decide to share the formula with others but through selling it. Once they make up their mind, they write and sell their ebooks to others. Some may find it useful, while for big bankroll holders, it may not be of any use as if they follow that strategy, they may also lose big because the seller gambled without any fear due to small bankroll.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 22, 2021, 09:00:39 PM
Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.
^ For sure they also get paid for this kind of fraud.
I heard on boxing before that there is a match-fixing and also in NBA there is a match-fixing in order to continue the series longer.
I don't know how they manipulate such games but I think for now it is rare that there is match-fixing, players have their dignity and fighting with their own reputation and I don't think this is very common to happen. I could probably be unethical because there is no proof about this, because it could be a serious case if ever someone caught.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Masplanc on October 22, 2021, 09:25:34 PM
Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: johhnyUA on October 22, 2021, 09:56:01 PM
Nobody likes fixed matches but then again, the question is how do you find out if there was any fixing? I don't think its possible in most cases.

It's not possible at all. And if someone tells your that he knows that match will be fixed, he or insider or liar. The last one is the most (like 95 %) probable. Because to be caught on fixed match is the end of carrier for football players, their trainers and judges. So even if such things happens, only narrow circle of people will know about that.

Not your friends and some dudes from internet who ask you to pay 5 dollars for such information


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Sled on October 22, 2021, 09:56:52 PM
Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.
It is all about money, they offer a big amount of money that makes you paralyzed and follow what they have said. They don't care about their reputation as they think about how much they could get from manipulating the game. This is not new, I think and it never stops. But this will disappoint the players knowing that it was just a fixed match and ruin the image of sports.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: TinaK on October 22, 2021, 10:14:53 PM
Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.
It is all about money, they offer a big amount of money that makes you paralyzed and follow what they have said. They don't care about their reputation as they think about how much they could get from manipulating the game. This is not new, I think and it never stops. But this will disappoint the players knowing that it was just a fixed match and ruin the image of sports.

This is very common in the gambling sports industry, there are too many underground activities just for the money that they can get. I think we can consider them as a whale just like on the crypto industry because they are also manipulating the game or the entire sports.
But I think not all of them, there are also sports that are highly regulated well monitored, just like in WBO, they are now pointing opponent pairing per match and I think no one will stake their reputation that has built for a long time.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oilacris on October 22, 2021, 10:27:06 PM
Yeah....this can actually be true, irrespective of the good faces we see around the field and pitch... Coaches, player's and referees actually come in agreement to fix matches.
Although if caught will be banned from life, recently former Chelsea and Spanish international Diego Costa was being investigated by the police for allegations about Match fixing.
It is all about money, they offer a big amount of money that makes you paralyzed and follow what they have said. They don't care about their reputation as they think about how much they could get from manipulating the game. This is not new, I think and it never stops. But this will disappoint the players knowing that it was just a fixed match and ruin the image of sports.

This is very common in the gambling sports industry, there are too many underground activities just for the money that they can get. I think we can consider them as a whale just like on the crypto industry because they are also manipulating the game or the entire sports.
But I think not all of them, there are also sports that are highly regulated well monitored, just like in WBO, they are now pointing opponent pairing per match and I think no one will stake their reputation that has built for a long time.
For sure there is but wont really be that too obvious because they do know on whats on stake if ever they get caught.Performing a rigged game isnt something that can really be done flawlessly.

Fans arent that blind or dumb on not to notice if there's something wrong with the game even though its heavily fixed and trying to be looking realistic but cant really be denied if theres something fishy behind.

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Ryker1 on October 22, 2021, 11:07:14 PM
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Fans arent that blind or dumb on not to notice if there's something wrong with the game even though its heavily fixed and trying to be looking realistic but cant really be denied if theres something fishy behind.

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?
Well this is true --as being fans we can easily insight those fishy activities and if they are doing something not good.
Fixed game matches are easily be determined because as fans we know that the match is manipulated especially if we know very well the players who played and have matches. Perhaps a fixed match is not just easy, it needs to have a huge amount to pay those who belong the sabotage action. 


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oceat on October 22, 2021, 11:16:45 PM
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Fans arent that blind or dumb on not to notice if there's something wrong with the game even though its heavily fixed and trying to be looking realistic but cant really be denied if theres something fishy behind.

There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?
Well this is true --as being fans we can easily insight those fishy activities and if they are doing something not good.
Fixed game matches are easily be determined because as fans we know that the match is manipulated especially if we know very well the players who played and have matches. Perhaps a fixed match is not just easy, it needs to have a huge amount to pay those who belong the sabotage action. 
Of course, they need a big amount of money and it's always included everytime you see something great. It would just take an hour or so to destroy their career on front of their fans I wonder some of them would still be playing or some won't be watching them to play because of how dirty they play.

As a fans we can do something to them, we just don't go watch with them anymore since we already know how they've sold their reputation to some businessman who can pay for almost everything while destroying the career of the players.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Ebede on October 22, 2021, 11:40:40 PM
In my own opinion, it's honestly can be done between both teams.... don't forget if politics can be rigged by group of people then why not football ?
Their are under-dogs who run all of this under ground with the sole aim to get more money.

FIFA as the overall body of football is against this act,if caught while be totally dealt without pity or mercy.
Majority don't believe such can be done, but I feel this shits are done.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: goinmerry on October 22, 2021, 11:45:50 PM
There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

Just go with the flow as usual. In the first place, before placing a bet on a certain match, we don't know if it will be fixed or not.

Still the same, we don't know what will be the result and we are gambling. But in the long run, if some shit match that is obviously a fixed match will happen regularly, it will affect the reputation of that league and eventually, viewers will be drastically decreased along the way.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 22, 2021, 11:51:56 PM
There are lots of factors that could really be possibly seen if you are a sports fan but is there something we can do?

Just go with the flow as usual. In the first place, before placing a bet on a certain match, we don't know if it will be fixed or not.

Still the same, we don't know what will be the result and we are gambling. But in the long run, if some shit match that is obviously a fixed match will happen regularly, it will affect the reputation of that league and eventually, viewers will be drastically decreased along the way.

If you are betting, you are just hoping that everyone is fair with the game. Because you can't really tell if the match is fix or not. Because if you will be paranoid about it, then, maybe sportsbetting is not for you. As we can't avoid these things to happen, you just hope for the best in every game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: agustina2 on October 22, 2021, 11:58:51 PM
Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.
^ For sure they also get paid for this kind of fraud.
I heard on boxing before that there is a match-fixing and also in NBA there is a match-fixing in order to continue the series longer.
I don't know how they manipulate such games but I think for now it is rare that there is match-fixing, players have their dignity and fighting with their own reputation and I don't think this is very common to happen. I could probably be unethical because there is no proof about this, because it could be a serious case if ever someone caught.

As long as no investigation happened, a suspected fixed match will always remain a suspected one and we as a viewer can't do something about it. Just continue to support that league because I think, majority of the matches are still played fairly and fixed matches just happened not on a regular basis.

We can't do something about it after all.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Pamadar on October 23, 2021, 03:18:52 AM
Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.
^ For sure they also get paid for this kind of fraud.
I heard on boxing before that there is a match-fixing and also in NBA there is a match-fixing in order to continue the series longer.
I don't know how they manipulate such games but I think for now it is rare that there is match-fixing, players have their dignity and fighting with their own reputation and I don't think this is very common to happen. I could probably be unethical because there is no proof about this, because it could be a serious case if ever someone caught.

As long as no investigation happened, a suspected fixed match will always remain a suspected one and we as a viewer can't do something about it. Just continue to support that league because I think, majority of the matches are still played fairly and fixed matches just happened not on a regular basis.

We can't do something about it after all.

Fixed match, sadly, is being part of any sport, but like what you have said,

suspected one without any proven investigation will continue to be as unresolved issue.

Just be furious and observant if you still wanted to bet or if you still wanted to support
teams or players from the league there are still good matchup that ain't affected by any fix matches.

Bet as a fan, so you'll have a good hint about the team / players that you are betting with.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: molsewid on October 23, 2021, 04:44:12 AM
As long as no investigation happened, a suspected fixed match will always remain a suspected one and we as a viewer can't do something about it. Just continue to support that league because I think, majority of the matches are still played fairly and fixed matches just happened not on a regular basis.

We can't do something about it after all.

Fixed match is unethical for both coaches, players or even officiator of the game and this kind of game ruin the reputation not just the game but reputation of players if they are also coordinating with these kind of activities. But like what have you said as long as there's no investigation about the said fixed match there will be no proper action takes place to correct the mantra of fixed matching. I do also believe that the majority of the matches were played fairly however it is also good to discuss this kind of discussion because it reminds every bettors to be cautious every time they are betting in any types of matches.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: worle1bm on October 23, 2021, 08:06:07 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

This issue has been raised many times and the debate continues over them that whether matches are fixed or not? The answer to this is yes some matches are fixed to turn on the tables when billion dollar bets is involved in the game.All of them are included like coach,team players and judges also and you could find out some biased decisions made by them.Mostly match fixing is found in cricket as it's easy to manipulate the game as you could get yourself out on turning point and bets could be turned upon and the results could be entirely different from what were predicted.So the answer to this is yes fixation is present in matches.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mindrust on October 23, 2021, 08:13:31 AM
Selling ebooks is another example. 99.9% of the time the information you'll get from those books is bullshit. If the information had any value, he wouldn't sell it.

This could be true, but somehow an ebook would teach us how to manage ourself in gambling, actually bankroll management and discipline are both very important, winning a bet is quite different, it cannot be written in the book that is up to a gambler's ability to analyze the game before putting a bet and win.

But why are you paying for that information? You could get it for free from google and most of those information don't really have any value at all. He is not giving you the secret code of life. He is just selling you some common crap which you can think your own.

That's why I don't read ebook as it's time consuming, I'm actually more attracted to reading a random posts like in a forum as I know they are more genuine and they share according to their experience. I have a lot of forums that I follow that's why I learn about sports betting, terms like sports rigging, line movement and trap, these are only few you'll learn from people who are experience enough in sports betting.

I think so too. Reading forum posts is more time efficient. Ebooks usually give you many unwanted details when you just need the main idea. Youtubers do that too. The more they talk bla bla bla and increase the length of the video, the better. It is a marketing trick.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bitgov on October 23, 2021, 08:15:00 AM
In my opinion, fixed matches can only happen in low leagues and some niche sporting events, such as boxing matches at the amateur level or very early stages of the career. I don't think anyone will risk fixing maches in major leagues or at international level events. That is why I only bet on large events and main leagues where the risk of such a situation is almost zero.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on October 23, 2021, 10:03:18 AM
In my opinion, fixed matches can only happen in low leagues and some niche sporting events, such as boxing matches at the amateur level or very early stages of the career. I don't think anyone will risk fixing maches in major leagues or at international level events. That is why I only bet on large events and main leagues where the risk of such a situation is almost zero.
It could be, but we do not know if that happens in a big league with many teams and people involved in that event. There is not much information about the fixed matches in public because that thing is hiding behind many people. But suppose something bad happens or one or more people get caught because of transferring the money to other people. In that case, that can make many people suspicious and will ask the regulator or authority to investigate it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: pinggoki on October 23, 2021, 10:04:19 AM
Fixed matches come in variety of ways and there's no definitive way to describe a fixed match other than the fact that it is a matched that is rigged to win one's side over the other even before the game starts. It violates the sportsmanship aspect of every sport which is why it is illegal to do so, but of course things like these happen still in some games. I believe the numbers your brother has been given are rigged numbers that he can bet on that would automatically win him the game. Not so sure however if this is some kind of score betting your brother is in though.
In my opinion, fixed matches can only happen in low leagues and some niche sporting events, such as boxing matches at the amateur level or very early stages of the career. I don't think anyone will risk fixing maches in major leagues or at international level events. That is why I only bet on large events and main leagues where the risk of such a situation is almost zero.
Some fixed games also happen in the big leagues. Any form of disadvantageous tactic a team or a facilitator makes to favor one team over the other is considered as a fixing anyway. Last time I watched MLB I saw someone being given a corked bat which is a big violation in baseball games because it gives the batter an unfair speed advantage over the pitcher. And as far as I know that is from a big league game so these fixed matches really exist in any type of game at any ranks.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Joca97 on October 23, 2021, 10:34:15 AM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: RealMalatesta on October 23, 2021, 11:14:11 AM
it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed
You mean only owners kind of bigshots/rich people alone participating in betting with fixed matches in big leagues? Theoretically when you are fixing a match against underdogs and when most bettros will go betting for stronger team then you will get amazing odds in favor of underdog and fixing the match in favor of underdog will get you massive profits.

Yeah, I agree big league's top team/player's match fixing must be kept secret so that most bettors will go wrong and lose their bet amounts. Honestly I never got any chances to think this way as I never get any info on match fixing to bet with.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: virasog on October 23, 2021, 11:16:49 AM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

Some big bookies may have inside news and therefore they may tell you about these fix matches. Everyone knows that these fix matches can be a scam or the leak information could be wrong too, but gamblers still take risk because of the greed.
If you see any fixed match being gambled or any suspicious activity on game, better report it so more people are aware of it and avoid the scams.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 23, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
Coaches, players, and team owners consent to match fixing that’s for sure, because match fixing wouldn’t happen in the first place if there are no insiders involved in the bets. Most of the time, they do these on leagues that don’t really matter, but still is a hype one yet the profit that they get from winning the games aren’t really something compared to the potential profits that they can get on match fixing. I certainly would bet on such matches in a heartbeat if I do have the insider information, though a part of me thinks that it is wrong and unethical, but whatever.

This is a rather interesting thought, because on the one hand, making profit from other people's crimes is very similar to complicity in a crime, on the other hand, information costs money and if you have it in any way, then it is your work that must also be paid :D I do not know what I would have done knowing about the match fixing, but most likely I would not have made a bet because I simply do not believe in it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: fiulpro on October 23, 2021, 01:06:36 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Fixed matches are as real as the normal ones.
Well how you would react to them does depend on you mainly, well you can try and ignore it or you may try and make profits out of them.
At the same time you have to choose to believe in the information or no, it solely depends on you and at the end of the day, it's illegal.
Some coaches takes bribes but most of the times it's individual players who are getting sold out on the black market, plus they actually can get banned if they do decide to go with that therefore its not really ethical or looked in a good way it.
Ignore it if you do find such information. Don't get involved with illegal things.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bunglor on October 23, 2021, 05:04:06 PM
Fixed matches are as real as the normal ones.
Well how you would react to them does depend on you mainly, well you can try and ignore it or you may try and make profits out of them.
At the same time you have to choose to believe in the information or no, it solely depends on you and at the end of the day, it's illegal.
Some coaches takes bribes but most of the times it's individual players who are getting sold out on the black market, plus they actually can get banned if they do decide to go with that therefore its not really ethical or looked in a good way it.
Ignore it if you do find such information. Don't get involved with illegal things.

Well said. Indeed, even if fixed matches are really there taking its existence and appeal to many of the players, it is still our call to depend on it, benefit from it, or just ignore it. Considering that these matches can be identified as illegally constructed, then we surely have to stand a say on this matter. But regardless of choice, it is solely on you.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Quidat on October 23, 2021, 05:54:08 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
Agree on this one because in lower leagues there's no much focus and it wont really be that obvious if they have done it compared into those popular or big matches
where there are lots of audience and fans that do look upon then for sure executing any act of fixed matches would really be somewhat risky if they would
would really be get caught and would be penalized on what they have done thats why we arent really seeing that commonly but just like what you
said that it is indeed possible to happen.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 23, 2021, 06:55:18 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
Agree on this one because in lower leagues there's no much focus and it wont really be that obvious if they have done it compared into those popular or big matches
where there are lots of audience and fans that do look upon then for sure executing any act of fixed matches would really be somewhat risky if they would
would really be get caught and would be penalized on what they have done thats why we arent really seeing that commonly but just like what you
said that it is indeed possible to happen.

The risk is high, but not impossible to happen. There are rumors about big leagues and the illegally fixed matches behind. Though there are no proven case coming from big leagues but from those small organizations, this kind of activities are really covering the entire sports. Match fixers are all over the place, from the organizers up to the officiating officials.

They are all involved without a trace. Better to not to affiliate yourself or involve yourself if you do see that fixed matches are already circulating the league that you are betting.

There are many available sports, all you have to do is to continue doing your DYOR and hope for luck to play with you. ::)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 2double0 on October 23, 2021, 08:33:03 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Viscore on October 23, 2021, 08:59:14 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

If the tips are accurate then you should trust it, it's not important where the tip is coming as long as you are winning. In my case, I don't really believe that someone could just give a tip on a fixed game as it's hard to find a reliable one, but based on the output, I would consider believing and maybe subscribe if it's necessary to get consistent tips.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oilacris on October 23, 2021, 09:41:42 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

If the tips are accurate then you should trust it, it's not important where the tip is coming as long as you are winning. In my case, I don't really believe that someone could just give a tip on a fixed game as it's hard to find a reliable one, but based on the output, I would consider believing and maybe subscribe if it's necessary to get consistent tips.
Then how you would recognize accurate tips or info?

You could not just say its legit when you do won once or twice because everything could happen where you couldnt tell if its real or not  and fixed information about matches isnt something

that you could really get easily without shelling out big money but if you do see something you do get on random or just some given tips then i wont
really be putting any trust to that.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 2double0 on October 23, 2021, 11:20:49 PM

If the tips are accurate then you should trust it, it's not important where the tip is coming as long as you are winning. In my case, I don't really believe that someone could just give a tip on a fixed game as it's hard to find a reliable one, but based on the output, I would consider believing and maybe subscribe if it's necessary to get consistent tips.

They ask for $50-$100 a bet.
They show some email of a bookie who fixes these games and assure that the game has been fixed with the players and they will play according to the 'fixed' plans. I saw various screenshots of users winning those bets, but they may also be fake photoshopped images to lure new buyers for upcoming 'fixed' bets. I see it as a strategy to scam because there is not 'comments' section available in those channels, so how can someone discuss about their loss? Even if reported, these guys change the name of their channels and start again.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: agustina2 on October 23, 2021, 11:49:33 PM
Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

Then tell us how to determine it will be a fixed match?

Can't imagine a sports tipster here for long can easily say to avoid fix match where in the first place, how can you determine if the match will be fixed?

Care to share your wild factors beforehand?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Peanutswar on October 23, 2021, 11:59:16 PM
Many people give a tip to other players regarding the game I guess there's not fixed matches of course if this is handled by a known organization, in some instances they give information of a match-winner is on the skill set of the team for their upcoming matches. Still, it depends on the player if they want to follow those tips to have a higher risk on it. People use this kind of strategy to scam people or just double the odds on the other hand of the gambling bet to make more profitable to them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: coin-investor on October 24, 2021, 12:24:23 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


It's very much real and it happens without us knowing it even the organizations that manage these sports are unaware of this game fixing but that's the reality there's a lot of money involved in in-game fixing and big mafia-like groups are behind this, it's risky for players and groups to get involved because they have their license revoked for life if caught.

That is why every sports organization closely watches each game for any hint of game-fixing, if game-fixing is exposed that will ruin the credibility of the sports, that is why impose a very high fine, revocation of license to play, and imprisonment.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: harizen on October 24, 2021, 02:04:09 AM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.

I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

But in most cases, amateur leagues are not listed on sportsbooks even on fiat gambling websites. That's why at first, we can conclude that such services are scams. And even they are involved in big leagues, as they claimed it, I doubt these people do really have an insider. They are all scams.

About that slip, do you see those bets are placed prior to the match? Sometimes they are just predicting the outcome without the actual placing of the bet.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 24, 2021, 06:52:39 AM
I know about various tipsters online on telegram who try to sell fixed matches that come from amature leagues, claiming that their games are 100% loss proof and they also show bets of 30 to 300 eur turned to 3k and 30k. And the slip is not just one, and when I check the match results I find the same what he promoted. Should these games be trusted? A big part of these tipsters ask for Nigerian Naira, do they really know about the outcome of the game before it starts?

I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: alegotardo on October 24, 2021, 12:00:00 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

Exactly, it's something similar to that twitter profile that predicted multiple outcomes once, but only became known for its hits after the events had already occurred.

Many people called him a great seer while others speculate that he predicted several results and then erased the tweets that didn't materialize... all while his profile was still not followed by anyone.
Afterwards, it was enough to do a good job of marketing.

With these fixed bets the same thing happens, with the difference that we are not able to publicly verify all the wrong bets they have made.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 24, 2021, 01:11:41 PM

But in most cases, amateur leagues are not listed on sportsbooks even on fiat gambling websites. That's why at first, we can conclude that such services are scams. And even they are involved in big leagues, as they claimed it, I doubt these people do really have an insider. They are all scams.
There are people who really working behind but for sure it's not as easy to work with them the way those claimers are saying

that they are working with those insiders, the amount of money they are staking is big enough to cover the amount that they needed to spend, its existing but the activities are still unproven all are just rumors or suspected but nothing has been done with those big leagues
issues.

Quote
About that slip, do you see those bets are placed prior to the match? Sometimes they are just predicting the outcome without the actual placing of the bet.

That' a scam ;D providing prediction, but they are not using their money to place a bet? If it's really a fixed match, those people will
do an all-in bet to really earned big compensation right? ::)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fortify on October 24, 2021, 04:07:19 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


If you're in a team with someone who match fixes then essentially you have an enemy within your ranks - someone who is actively sabotaging your best efforts in the worst way possible. That person is likely to be acting like your friend and using the most devious methods to hide the cheating that will solely benefit them. Unless the whole team is in on it then that is likely the worst kind of betrayal you could ever face. I'm not sure how else you could react to finding that out except with disgust and all the anger in the world. Some people make their whole life about the sport that they have chosen to specialize in, it pays their bills via a salary and someone fixing matches would be severely effecting other peoples ability to increase their career path in future.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on October 24, 2021, 05:29:58 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
This is true, and like always when it comes to scams we need to use our common sense, we know there are fixed games at all levels all the time, what we need to wonder is why suddenly a person will appear with information that supposedly gives us privileged access to that information? After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 24, 2021, 06:27:22 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


If you're in a team with someone who match fixes then essentially you have an enemy within your ranks - someone who is actively sabotaging your best efforts in the worst way possible. That person is likely to be acting like your friend and using the most devious methods to hide the cheating that will solely benefit them. Unless the whole team is in on it then that is likely the worst kind of betrayal you could ever face. I'm not sure how else you could react to finding that out except with disgust and all the anger in the world. Some people make their whole life about the sport that they have chosen to specialize in, it pays their bills via a salary and someone fixing matches would be severely effecting other peoples ability to increase their career path in future.

Yeah right, those who are involved with game fixing who are continuously hiding as a part of the team, where action is not the one that they are portraying, I value your words since there are honest players who don't know what's the real score inside their team; they are trying to win a game but because of the participation of another member of the team into game fixing.

The effort is worthless, and they are ended up losing the game. The career path for those people is getting slimmer than they can't win the game with people who surround them are making more money by means of game fixing.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: jostorres on October 24, 2021, 08:19:21 PM
After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.
You are right. From what I have read, people who are fixing matches usually keeping it highly confidential so that they will find big profits in the end by making all others to bet on other side. If they leak information about fixed matches then they will get high competition for profit sharing which will ending up in lower odds. This is the reason, mostly match fixing are happening in high society and in highly confidential way.

At the same time, scammers are trying to exploit the above situation by spreading fake information about fixed matches like they are selling tips about fixed matches. Basically, if someone is aware of fixed matches then they will go for betting in big amounts so that they could get easy profits.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 2double0 on October 24, 2021, 08:21:54 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: freedomgo on October 24, 2021, 08:25:48 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.

That tip on a fixed game is questionable if it's reliable in the first place, the logic is simple, why would anyone share fixed info if he himself can benefit it by putting a bet on it, not necessarily himself but he can hire people who can bet for him. Fewer people who know the fix the better for them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: seleme on October 24, 2021, 08:56:13 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
So many fishy messages on Telegram groups, sometimes they don't even hesitate to send you a unsourced file that can contain malicious software if you open it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Saint-loup on October 24, 2021, 11:35:41 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Betwrong on October 25, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
I personally don't really believe in that, but if you want to give it a try then I think there's nothing wrong with that either. Because after all, betting will be fine when we only bet with money that is ready to lose, right. So with the initial experiment that you do at least it will give you the results, with you already having the results then you are free to continue betting that way or not, but for me personally I will not believe it easily but it depends on the situation and conditions also.

I think there are several possibilities, and I want to mention some of them here:

1. The match is not fixed, but OP's friend wins by chance, and then thinks it happened thanks to the tips he received;

2. The match is not fixed, and the bet is lost;

3. The match is fixed, and the bet is won.

Among those three, the 3rd option is the worst one imo, because with winning $100 or $200, you are stepping on the slippery road of cooperating with crooks. It is much better for you to lose your bet at once, and break your connection to people who are very likely to turn your life into hell. And I don't mean some religious "Hell" after we die, no, I mean a never-ending sequence of horrible events in this physical world we are living in.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: KTChampions on October 25, 2021, 11:35:27 AM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.

To be honest, I did not understand what kind of fraud scheme you just wrote. There is a generation of bots that give different predictions (and some of them will definitely be successful for obvious reasons) -> then "information" from such successful bots are sold to naive users. Or tips are generated to a large number of users in private messages (according to the same principle), and after users have appeared who believe in the quality of the tips, they are deceived.

That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)

Why are you sure that this was not the same scammer as the rest?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: finaleshot2016 on October 25, 2021, 12:40:50 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
They put a lot of pressure on those who might be lured into a situation like this in a fixed match. It's sometimes a scam, especially when it's done on social media platforms like Telegram and Discord. As we can see, there are also plenty of random strangers who send you messages advertising giveaways and such, and it's the same with those people. Newbies will undoubtedly fall for this type of trick, and people will undoubtedly try it, particularly if they are looking for a quick win.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Jawhead999 on October 25, 2021, 12:48:55 PM
In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: xSkylarx on October 25, 2021, 04:19:47 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
They put a lot of pressure on those who might be lured into a situation like this in a fixed match. It's sometimes a scam, especially when it's done on social media platforms like Telegram and Discord. As we can see, there are also plenty of random strangers who send you messages advertising giveaways and such, and it's the same with those people. Newbies will undoubtedly fall for this type of trick, and people will undoubtedly try it, particularly if they are looking for a quick win.

They will, without a doubt, attract newcomers to this. This is a trick for new users or newbies who want to earn quickly without having to work hard. What is the issue with the fixed match? The issue with the fixed match is that it involves a large sum of money that they will earn, as well as other bets where they are deciding to win the opposite team if all of the odds are higher than others. However, if a team is the underdog and the most professional, odds multipliers are now available in sports betting. We can't really do anything about fixed matches because we can't predict them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: harizen on October 25, 2021, 09:33:32 PM
In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.

It's like gambling over the usual gambling. In any case, that's also an advantage to those who will bet on the ream that was supposed to win by fixed match, if any. Still like the usual placing of bets but any analysis is useless. Still the same, wait for the results and that's it.

An issue of fixed matches should not be a big deal for bettors as in general, the majority of matches are still played properly within the fair gameplay. Don't believe in those random people saying they have an information that a certain match will be fixed,


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: sovie on October 25, 2021, 09:40:12 PM
In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.

It's like gambling over the usual gambling. In any case, that's also an advantage to those who will bet on the ream that was supposed to win by fixed match, if any. Still like the usual placing of bets but any analysis is useless. Still the same, wait for the results and that's it.

An issue of fixed matches should not be a big deal for bettors as in general, the majority of matches are still played properly within the fair gameplay. Don't believe in those random people saying they have an information that a certain match will be fixed,

Of course, almost all games are played fairly. Probably a very small number of low level matches can be fixed.
I also think a lot of people come up with rumors that the game is fixed. In my opinion, this could also be the case with the person OP spoke to.
The truth is that if we are not on the pitch or in the ring ourselves, we will not be able to confirm or deny it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: seleme on October 25, 2021, 09:46:08 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
You should analyze the whole situation, it is not only about the turnover and timeframe.. Do a small research and you will find what kind of tricks are there to "rig" the result...
Sometimes, the single-player on the match can be "bought" with expensive deals and the sellers gonna sell yellow card fixtures for the dealers...
No matter what that player will do anything to get a yellow card by the referee and it shouldn't be a hard-to-find bookie that accepts this kind of bets...


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bitgov on October 25, 2021, 09:54:54 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
You should analyze the whole situation, it is not only about the turnover and timeframe.. Do a small research and you will find what kind of tricks are there to "rig" the result...
Sometimes, the single-player on the match can be "bought" with expensive deals and the sellers gonna sell yellow card fixtures for the dealers...
No matter what that player will do anything to get a yellow card by the referee and it shouldn't be a hard-to-find bookie that accepts this kind of bets...


I get the feeling that when we talk about a fixed match everyone thinks about the overall result of the game.
However, you have noticed a very important thing. After all, it is enough for a player to be paid for causing some event.

I remember once someone bet a very large amount on the fact that during a match a naked person would run onto the pitch. Then he ran naked to the stadium himself.

I am sure that there were many more such cases.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: agustina2 on October 25, 2021, 10:24:45 PM
As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: sovie on October 25, 2021, 10:32:16 PM
As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

You can also choose games that are at the international level. I'm sure players who participate in international tournaments and represent their country would never sell a match. Moreover, it is mainly at international events that players have the opportunity to show their skills and increase their value on the market. If anyone has any doubts, I think that matches at the highest level are the safest.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 25, 2021, 10:38:28 PM
As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

Just bet and wait if your chosen venue is not being played by those people behind game fixing. There is no assurance and everything still a rumor not unless it's been proven. Though for me there's no smoke if there's no fire inside ::) this kind of activities are always around, as bettors we don't really know when the group of illegal doers will penetrate.

Just do your normal routine and how that nothing wrong or any obvious rigging will show up. It's okay accepting that you lose, but under some unexplained circumstances, that's really annoying.

Keep in mind that part of luck is by choosing the right game to bet ;D :P


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: chaser15 on October 25, 2021, 11:50:13 PM
Just do your normal routine and how that nothing wrong or any obvious rigging will show up. It's okay accepting that you lose, but under some unexplained circumstances, that's really annoying.

You are right it's annoying to see that after our research to form our analysis, the match will be rigged.

But as mentioned above, I agree that it's not that our bets will always be landed on a fixed match. Still, 99.9% of our bets will be played as clean with no rigged or dirty tricks involved. I don't really believe in this stuffs mainly unless got news or someone involved got penalized.

I'm sure never in my betting experience that I place a bet for a possible rigged match.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: paxmao on October 27, 2021, 09:04:14 AM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
This is true, and like always when it comes to scams we need to use our common sense, we know there are fixed games at all levels all the time, what we need to wonder is why suddenly a person will appear with information that supposedly gives us privileged access to that information? After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.

And sometimes it would seem that the same persons have the higher ground over and over. Privileged information works all over the place, it is legal in some countries, such as Russia and illegal in theory in most, but it is inevitable that information leaks and people talk. However, that is one thing but actually fixing a result is a different short of cattle. Is not as much as using the information, but rather about creating a certain condition that is beneficial for those that are in the know.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: justdimin on October 27, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
99.9% of our bets will be played as clean with no rigged or dirty tricks involved. I don't really believe in this stuffs mainly unless got news or someone involved got penalized.
As per the practices which are being followed by bookies, the information on fixing a match or a player will be held highly confidential hence what we feel clean and fair matches may not be the same. Bookies usually target highly talented team or player to underperform so that unexpected results will happen on better odds. So, If a team or player is not performing well at least for some certain duration in a match, there might be a hidden reason behind that.

I'm sure never in my betting experience that I place a bet for a possible rigged match.
I guess only 50% chances for your statement to remain true. It doesn't matter that we are betting on the same side where bookies have fixed match or not. When we are not aware of what is going on and in the end our prediction is right then we need to enjoy and move on as nothing illegal has been done from our side.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on October 27, 2021, 01:13:46 PM
As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

You can also choose games that are at the international level. I'm sure players who participate in international tournaments and represent their country would never sell a match. Moreover, it is mainly at international events that players have the opportunity to show their skills and increase their value on the market. If anyone has any doubts, I think that matches at the highest level are the safest.
I am not sure about that as we do not know what happens behind the international tournaments. Maybe they still do that without anyone knows and as that is an international tournament, they are trying to cover their illegal activity and pretend the match is under control. The highest level of the tournaments could mean that much money will involve, so that can tempt some people who did an illegal activity to get the money for them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on October 27, 2021, 04:39:02 PM
After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.
You are right. From what I have read, people who are fixing matches usually keeping it highly confidential so that they will find big profits in the end by making all others to bet on other side. If they leak information about fixed matches then they will get high competition for profit sharing which will ending up in lower odds. This is the reason, mostly match fixing are happening in high society and in highly confidential way.

At the same time, scammers are trying to exploit the above situation by spreading fake information about fixed matches like they are selling tips about fixed matches. Basically, if someone is aware of fixed matches then they will go for betting in big amounts so that they could get easy profits.
This is incredibly common where I live, in almost any sport event that I went to watch live before the pandemic there was always someone that had a hot tip or knew someone or heard a rumor about what it would happen, for some time I thought those people were just trying to be helpful but now I know that most likely they were scammers trying to make me bet on one direction while they did the opposite in order to increase the odds of their choice and get more money that way.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 27, 2021, 05:51:45 PM
Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
This is true, and like always when it comes to scams we need to use our common sense, we know there are fixed games at all levels all the time, what we need to wonder is why suddenly a person will appear with information that supposedly gives us privileged access to that information? After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.

And sometimes it would seem that the same persons have the higher ground over and over. Privileged information works all over the place, it is legal in some countries, such as Russia and illegal in theory in most, but it is inevitable that information leaks and people talk. However, that is one thing but actually fixing a result is a different short of cattle. Is not as much as using the information, but rather about creating a certain condition that is beneficial for those that are in the know.
Imagine those leak information being bought by gamblers thinking that it's an easy access to win a lot but unknowingly people behind this kind of leaks are just playing around, after seeing the pressure inside bookies, they will simply bet on the other side, I heard rumors like this from our local league.

Someone gives tips or insiders who arranged fixed matches, but the outcome didn't favor those who bought the tip.

Now, they are accusing those people who's behind, just don't know if there's an action that is being taken place, the issue just simply been gone after some time from the social media.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: magneto on October 27, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes, they are real.

But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oilacris on October 27, 2021, 11:25:46 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes, they are real.

But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.
Scams and fraud like this are common ones but still there are people who do really get victim with these frauds because they do really believe that they would able to have some sure win without even knowing that they are just being blind on something which had been
purely been guessed. Which you should really be careful and shouldnt really believe on it easily.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: harizen on October 27, 2021, 11:32:50 PM
But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: wxa7115 on October 28, 2021, 07:04:17 PM
But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?
As difficult as you think it is to believe people fall into that kind of scam all the time, just recently I remember there was a thread offering something like that and while the majority of the people were smart enough to recognize it was a scam the alleged scammer claimed that in fact someone had agreed to make business with him.

Now it is possible he was lying to cover himself and make his offer appear more legitimate, but I will not be surprised at all if that was actually true.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 28, 2021, 09:07:47 PM
But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?
As difficult as you think it is to believe people fall into that kind of scam all the time, just recently I remember there was a thread offering something like that and while the majority of the people were smart enough to recognize it was a scam the alleged scammer claimed that in fact someone had agreed to make business with him.

Now it is possible he was lying to cover himself and make his offer appear more legitimate, but I will not be surprised at all if that was actually true.

the classical scam where somebody is selling illusions preying for those who want to buy illusions instead of looking clearly at reality
rationality helps a lot in these cases


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Quidat on October 28, 2021, 09:16:01 PM
But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?
As difficult as you think it is to believe people fall into that kind of scam all the time, just recently I remember there was a thread offering something like that and while the majority of the people were smart enough to recognize it was a scam the alleged scammer claimed that in fact someone had agreed to make business with him.

Now it is possible he was lying to cover himself and make his offer appear more legitimate, but I will not be surprised at all if that was actually true.

the classical scam where somebody is selling illusions preying for those who want to buy illusions instead of looking clearly at reality
rationality helps a lot in these cases
One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 28, 2021, 10:43:42 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged ;D ::)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: arwin100 on October 28, 2021, 10:59:29 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged ;D ::)

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: beerlover on October 28, 2021, 11:03:24 PM
in almost any sport event that I went to watch live before the pandemic there was always someone that had a hot tip or knew someone or heard a rumor about what it would happen, for some time I thought those people were just trying to be helpful but now I know that most likely they were scammers trying to make me bet on one direction while they did the opposite in order to increase the odds of their choice and get more money that way.
But, if someone's tip will not get you profits then I guess you may not go back to them for another tip for another match, right? This way I guess people may not keep trying to trap you for their indirect benefits. People usually fix a match where stronger team unusually may lose. It means most bettors will go by stronger team but when it suddenly losses then those match fixers will earn massive profits hence I guess that most such people may not contact you in person if their intention is trapping you by giving out invalid tip.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: harizen on October 28, 2021, 11:23:25 PM
But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?
As difficult as you think it is to believe people fall into that kind of scam all the time, just recently I remember there was a thread offering something like that and while the majority of the people were smart enough to recognize it was a scam the alleged scammer claimed that in fact someone had agreed to make business with him.

Now it is possible he was lying to cover himself and make his offer appear more legitimate, but I will not be surprised at all if that was actually true.

Actually, since I enter the forum, there are lots of threads created by some random guys claiming they have inside information of a possible fixed match. Since no proof or actually even they have proof, that was against fair play and I think the forum won't allow it here. That's the reason why future threads with the same intention are tagged as a scam right away.

If those alleged scammers claimed that someone got to make a business to them, it's part of their fabricated stories.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: agustina2 on October 28, 2021, 11:27:31 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged ;D ::)

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mindrust on October 29, 2021, 05:31:39 AM
the classical scam where somebody is selling illusions preying for those who want to buy illusions instead of looking clearly at reality
rationality helps a lot in these cases

In other words, people who get scammed are the ones who try to scam the other side most of the time. Don't tell me they are innocent ever. No. They all want something for nothing just like the other dude. In the end since both of those parties can't have something for nothing, one of them will have nothing for something. Basically the tldr of scamming.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: traderethereum on October 29, 2021, 08:14:50 AM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged ;D ::)

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.
That is because of the temptations from that unknown person who claims that they know the final result so those people want to make big money and use it to bet.
They think that the unknown person can guarantee the result and not think that it is illegal and can get in trouble in the future.
People who have money-oriented will not think much about that instead still searching for a person who can help them to make money.
Money can change how people think and if they want to make money, they will use many things to have that.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: molsewid on October 29, 2021, 08:39:03 AM

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

People choose to bet on this kind of fixed match of course because of the hope of the sure win that they may get through it, the eagerness of the people to win a reasonable price whenever they are betting which we can't also question about it because each and everyone have their own reason why they support this kind of unethical type of betting in sports. However, even myself I couldn't take any opportunity of these kind of activities if ever by any chance I would encounter someone introduced me betting in a fixed match.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Peanutswar on October 29, 2021, 09:04:36 AM
As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

You can also choose games that are at the international level. I'm sure players who participate in international tournaments and represent their country would never sell a match. Moreover, it is mainly at international events that players have the opportunity to show their skills and increase their value on the market. If anyone has any doubts, I think that matches at the highest level are the safest.
I am not sure about that as we do not know what happens behind the international tournaments. Maybe they still do that without anyone knows and as that is an international tournament, they are trying to cover their illegal activity and pretend the match is under control. The highest level of the tournaments could mean that much money will involve, so that can tempt some people who did an illegal activity to get the money for them.

I guess with the international games having fixed games is not on it because all of the organization must be organized unless there's a large name and money involved so most of the players and investors of the game would like to win. Still, these kinds of fix game its all about the management and the money offer with the game, of course, no one wants to skip the money with just a single game. AFAIK this kind of fixed match is not tolerated if you will against them there's a chance big names catch on it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: judeafante on October 29, 2021, 09:12:44 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.
They organized secretly players, coaches, referees, and sometimes owners to fix the game they do it for money and standing, sports events are part of gambling whenever an underdog wins only a few wins a jackpot

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Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams where matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: arwin100 on October 29, 2021, 11:01:18 AM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged ;D ::)

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

This is due to the promoters or influencer who always show how easy to get money on gambling and even if this is a hoax they will publish it on their channels so that they can get views as well as referrals. They don't care about on what will happen to newbies that's why we see so many of them caught of by the reality that its really hard to earn on gambling and the result is negative to them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 29, 2021, 11:48:34 AM
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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: AicecreaME on October 29, 2021, 12:41:40 PM
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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Botnake on October 29, 2021, 12:48:32 PM
<...>
One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

You can do research but it will not guarantee you a win, a fixed match info will guarantee a win as long as the tipster is legit, you are like reading the script of a movie and you will know what's going to happen in the end.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: passwordnow on October 30, 2021, 10:02:40 AM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mv1986 on October 30, 2021, 02:30:37 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 30, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

No wonder fixed game or rumors with fixed games continue to exist, expert or experienced gamblers who monitors the event understand how this kind of activities taking place, they are accepting the possibilities that there is really someone behind who's controlling the league. Though it's just rumors and if there's something that being identified, it's mostly in the small league.

But with big events, it's tough to pinpoint if which games are really part of game fixing. The team or players are very well known enough to
take part in this kind of controversy.

Though we can't conclude that there's none. ::) ;D


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on October 30, 2021, 05:02:09 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes, they are real.

But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.
This is very common, and it is in fact incredibly simple how this is done, for example if the scammer has access to a list of emails that are interested in gambling they can send half of that list a result of a match and they send the other half the opposite result, they do this for several games, at the end there is a small subset of people that have received all the winners and that is when they ask you money as the recipient of that email believes the scammer is for real when he is in fact only playing a numbers game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: RealMalatesta on October 30, 2021, 06:31:16 PM
for example if the scammer has access to a list of emails that are interested in gambling they can send half of that list a result of a match and they send the other half the opposite result, they do this for several games, at the end there is a small subset of people that have received all the winners and that is when they ask you money as the recipient of that email believes the scammer is for real when he is in fact only playing a numbers game.
Yeah possible, but what about the bookies who has fixed a match and know the result of an upcoming match when he got access to such a list of gambler's email/mobile number? Definitely they will try to maximize the odds by spreading opposite result to group people who are tend to bet with.

Honestly I have received such email and PM from newbies of this forum itself. There are hundreds of such scammy telegram groups are available. They may not give all tips for making you lose. They may give tips which may get you at least 50% chances to win and another 50% of betting will boost their profits by enabling you to bet opposite to their match fixing.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: passwordnow on October 30, 2021, 06:47:05 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.
Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bekti3 on October 30, 2021, 06:54:26 PM

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged ;D ::)

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

This is due to the promoters or influencer who always show how easy to get money on gambling and even if this is a hoax they will publish it on their channels so that they can get views as well as referrals. They don't care about on what will happen to newbies that's why we see so many of them caught of by the reality that its really hard to earn on gambling and the result is negative to them.
yep, as you said, they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: fullhdpixel on October 30, 2021, 07:40:21 PM
they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.
Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Johnyz on October 30, 2021, 08:24:30 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.
Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oshosondy on October 31, 2021, 07:32:44 AM
Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.
Are you sure about this? I am not thinking so, many fixed matches are later known from the match played and through thorough investigations, but the betting sites would have forgotten about it and will not give back money to those that lose and will not also ask for the betting money from those that win. I have seen some fixed matches before as a result of FIFA investigating it and found it to be true. This is most likely common in small matches, that is why I do not go for small matches because they can be fixed when many pre match and in-play bettors will lose. The best is just to go for big leagues like EPL, Seria A, La Liga and Bundesliga and many like that. Though any match can be fixed, but such matches have lowest chance of been fixed.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bitgolden on October 31, 2021, 09:14:39 AM
I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.
Yes, as per my country gambling regulations, even I am not into any of match fixing but going by the information on match fixing and trying to make use of such information for my personal benefits will my lead to severe legal consequences. Honestly I need to keep any such mail or anything arriving to me highly confidential otherwise authorities may dig on my winning a bet to prove my relation with match fixing.

Usually mobile conversation are too dangerous in this regard and all other corresponding may not get us problems. I usually stay away from any of tipsters who are promoting themselves for availability of fixed matches. I just want to gamble problem free and I never prefer to gamble illegal by any means.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Cling18 on October 31, 2021, 10:40:47 AM
they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.
Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.

We shouldn't believe anything that influencers would say because they're just doing it to earn money. They don't really care if they're stating facts about what they're promoting or if it would deceive new players. Their concern is how they're going to earn through it so we better do our own research instead of listening to them.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 31, 2021, 10:49:50 AM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.
Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.
As a fan's perspective even a legit game may look like a fixed one but its just a sport mo matter how good they are in their stats if they fail to bring the good effort will fail against the least favourite one so we shouldn't blame people every lose as fixed ones and never forget that sports is also a bridge to connect different nations not haters against each others.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Woodie on October 31, 2021, 11:20:06 AM
If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Oasisman on October 31, 2021, 11:49:51 AM
If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

Fixing match may not be easy to perform, but what's more difficult is to find access into this kind of underground gambling activities. Fixed matches doesn't easily leaked, I highly doubted the OP's friend is either speculating and anticipating possible sports fraud or was also invited by someone to follow such betting pattern in belief that the following games were being fixed.



Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Rufsilf on October 31, 2021, 01:32:02 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.
Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.

I still believed that some matches are fixed but the information was only limited in the higher ups and management, only limited people can really know if a certain game will be fixed. Some coaches and referees were bribed but still they can't share that information because of NDA.
But on the bottom, only scammers are present and usually they're the ones who are talkative and know how to play your mind to consider their offer. The issues were already present from the stone age until now, and unless we can't prove it, it's better to stay silent only bet what you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: molsewid on October 31, 2021, 02:10:46 PM
If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

And that's for sure, there will be few individual that could accessed a winning score for the fixed match provided that they have a legit source of leaked information of fixed match. In this type of game for sure the game initiator will going to kept the true fixed score so that many individual may got to involved in betting aspects without knowing the hidden reality of the game and there's where the big risks takes place once a bettor didn't know about the fixed match and also those who have bet in a score where they don't know if the source is legit or not.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mv1986 on October 31, 2021, 03:24:51 PM
It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.
If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.
Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.

Right but on the other hand we all here have surely seen some own goals where you can just shake your head because it happened as if the best striker in the world did it. At the same time you wouldn't really think that it was the result of a fixed game. There are human failures that look so spectacular that a fixed game is almost the only possibility for that to happen, but the game still wasn't fixed. It is tough to prove that an action was due to a fixed game.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on October 31, 2021, 06:58:15 PM
If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

And that's for sure, there will be few individual that could accessed a winning score for the fixed match provided that they have a legit source of leaked information of fixed match. In this type of game for sure the game initiator will going to kept the true fixed score so that many individual may got to involved in betting aspects without knowing the hidden reality of the game and there's where the big risks takes place once a bettor didn't know about the fixed match and also those who have bet in a score where they don't know if the source is legit or not.

If it's true, as rumors are everywhere, only a few who have the legit access. Those people knew and understand how to play well with greedy gamblers who think that it's easy to pocket huge amount of money from these illegal activities. They somehow forecast that leaked are legit and to the point that they are selling it and promise to bring a very decent amount of profits.

In reality! those mafias also used a huge amount of money to facilitate this kind of activities, they will never share anything to ruin the business.

Unless you can also take that big risk using a huge amount of money to tie up with those people :P ::)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: romero121 on October 31, 2021, 07:10:16 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bekti3 on October 31, 2021, 07:23:04 PM
they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.
Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.
this is a harsh reality where when they see the supporters of influencers and famous people adoring them so much, and on the other hand they don't care and only look at their own profit.
but this is the law here because indeed this is like natural selection which is the strong one who will survive here and inevitably when the weak want to survive then they must follow the strong, even though the strong one will lead us astray.
there will be no solution when they don't want to make their own way by looking for anything related to crypto or other supporting knowledge.
but this does not apply to people who really don't want to know the process and want to instant


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: passwordnow on October 31, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.

Right but on the other hand we all here have surely seen some own goals where you can just shake your head because it happened as if the best striker in the world did it. At the same time you wouldn't really think that it was the result of a fixed game. There are human failures that look so spectacular that a fixed game is almost the only possibility for that to happen, but the game still wasn't fixed. It is tough to prove that an action was due to a fixed game.
I agree. There's always the case like that and we're wrong with what we've been thinking. Something is playing in our minds with those conclusions that we're ending up but it tends out that we're just overthinking. It's hard to remove in our minds when some unusual moves we have just watched. But at the end of those matches, we just have to enjoy each of them with the sports that we've been a fan of and think that none of them is involved into such sold games.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on October 31, 2021, 08:01:55 PM
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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

in my opinion is better to avoid trying to "cheat" and game the system for a personal gain
there are so many ways to make money without fooling someone or having to rely on a "hot tip" that may be a scam...


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: timerland on October 31, 2021, 09:16:30 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I would disagree with this.

I don't think that the incidence of fixed matches have necessarily decreased because of technology advancement.

That is quite naive to assume. Technology works in the favour of both the fraudsters and the enforcing authority, not just the latter. What makes you think that the fraudsters didn't become better at predetermining outcomes to avoid detection?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: crzy on October 31, 2021, 09:54:42 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I would disagree with this.

I don't think that the incidence of fixed matches have necessarily decreased because of technology advancement.

That is quite naive to assume. Technology works in the favour of both the fraudsters and the enforcing authority, not just the latter. What makes you think that the fraudsters didn't become better at predetermining outcomes to avoid detection?
Technology helps them to become more advance and for sure they are taking advantage of this to fool people so for me as well, fixed matches are still here and honestly they grow a lot compare before. Well you can check it on your own so you can know where to place a bet and see if you are into a fixed matches or not, its hard to notice but its there most of the time.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mirakal on October 31, 2021, 11:15:57 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I would disagree with this.

I don't think that the incidence of fixed matches have necessarily decreased because of technology advancement.

That is quite naive to assume. Technology works in the favour of both the fraudsters and the enforcing authority, not just the latter. What makes you think that the fraudsters didn't become better at predetermining outcomes to avoid detection?
Technology helps them to become more advance and for sure they are taking advantage of this to fool people so for me as well, fixed matches are still here and honestly they grow a lot compare before. Well you can check it on your own so you can know where to place a bet and see if you are into a fixed matches or not, its hard to notice but its there most of the time.
You'll only know there's a fixed match happening if you have info, if not, then you have no idea if such game is fixed or rigged as they act like real actors when they are playing, and also, let's put in mind that not everyone on the floor or on the court knows the game is rigged, sometimes officials do take control of the outcome by using the referees of the game.

This fixed game thing is not new in the sports betting industry, before I started to learn sports betting, I already read about the theory of sports rigged and I am convinced that it's happening once I become more mature being a gambler.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Jackl87 on October 31, 2021, 11:21:04 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I also think that fixed matches are a thing of the past, at least in the top leagues of the "big" sports like football (both american and european), basketball and so on. It would just cost too much money to fix a match in the english premier league or the german bundesliga in football or some basketball match in the USA. What i can imagine though is that people with a lot of money can still try to manipulate matches in the 3rd or 4th division of football in the big football countries like England, Germany, Spain, Italy and so on. You can also bet on those games and therefore it would be probably the best opportunity for criminals to fix a match.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Vaskiy on October 31, 2021, 11:54:07 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I also think that fixed matches are a thing of the past, at least in the top leagues of the "big" sports like football (both american and european), basketball and so on. It would just cost too much money to fix a match in the english premier league or the german bundesliga in football or some basketball match in the USA. What i can imagine though is that people with a lot of money can still try to manipulate matches in the 3rd or 4th division of football in the big football countries like England, Germany, Spain, Italy and so on. You can also bet on those games and therefore it would be probably the best opportunity for criminals to fix a match.
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Betwrong on November 01, 2021, 08:55:39 AM
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There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?

Absolutely. It's funny that these scammers are trusted by some people because since there are not that much of options, it's either a win, a loss or a draw, they turn out to be right sometimes, and then the rumors start to spread that they really have some inside info on fixed matches. Don't trust them. Just make your bets by yourself, and you'll see that you'll be winning or losing with the same frequency.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: MNbag on November 01, 2021, 10:00:40 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 01, 2021, 10:44:49 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen .

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If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.
Then there are also others than Players and Bookies? and also the administrators of each sports that has been used for fixed matches are gaining.
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It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.
Difficult but Possible of course right?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: freedomgo on November 01, 2021, 11:44:19 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.


The players maybe if they are the ones who do the fixed game, but for bookies? I don't know, because they are the ones who will receive the bet and if a bettor has information about a fixed game, he would put his bet to the bookies and the bookies will play him, so bookies, in short, do not benefit from it, they actually hate it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: xSkylarx on November 01, 2021, 12:30:45 PM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.


The players maybe if they are the ones who do the fixed game, but for bookies? I don't know, because they are the ones who will receive the bet and if a bettor has information about a fixed game, he would put his bet to the bookies and the bookies will play him, so bookies, in short, do not benefit from it, they actually hate it.

Agree i think mostly is the one that has a high rank in the system which they are really know what is happening , also player which they will throw the game which they will not perform well. Money is money which if we are talking to it they will throw everything if they will get a lot of money out of it. I really dont know why they do that , is their winning is not enough ? so they are buying the pride of the games?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: michellee on November 02, 2021, 04:27:14 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen .
Some gamblers who know about that can benefit from the fixed matches as they will get the information from somewhere they know. But the number of that gamblers will not be too big.

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.
Then there are also others than Players and Bookies? and also the administrators of each sports that has been used for fixed matches are gaining.
Maybe those people who know about the match will place their bet because they know the final result to win some money. As long as they can manage it correctly, no one will know if they know the result.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.
Difficult but Possible of course right?
Yes, it is possible to use the benefits in fixed matches. But they need to be careful because they should think about the risk and consequences of getting caught by the regulator or the authority.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on November 02, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.
Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.
You have a point however people need to also learn how to protect themselves, if influencers exist is because people are giving them attention and they believe what they say, and if companies are sending them money to promote a product then it is obvious that companies are receiving additional revenue from those streamers, so this is simple if people want this to stop they need to stop watching them, something that you and I know it is never going to happen.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: wxa7115 on November 02, 2021, 08:36:03 PM
One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.
This is why people keep getting scammed, they want to believe that there is an easy way for them to make money in the markets and they are not willing to believe otherwise, even when the majority of the community keeps telling them that what they are looking for is impossible and that gambling should only be done for entertainment purposes they keep insisting there is a way to profit from those games.

And eventually when their capital is reduced to zero they realize how wrong they were and how the community was trying to protect them from this outcome, but unfortunately this realization comes too late for those greedy and naive gamblers.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Betwrong on November 03, 2021, 09:57:38 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen

I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Questat on November 03, 2021, 10:27:39 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen

I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Same here, that would put our lives at risk as that means you are part of a big criminal that kills people. This is a syndicate that's job is to fix games, they paid people to do it or will kill them if they won't follow, no way we will live a healthy life associating with these people.

That's why it's better to learn how to win in a clean way than getting a guaranteed win but putting your life and even your family at risk of getting killed.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on November 03, 2021, 11:43:40 AM
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Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Sanitough on November 03, 2021, 12:25:07 PM
<...>
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

These are just suspicions, question is, with the total of 1,100 cases, is there at least one person getting convicted for fixing a game? If there's none, then I would say it's just useless because it will never stop when no one gets convicted, or maybe we are just too suspicious without a valid basis.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: justdimin on November 03, 2021, 04:03:31 PM
We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Yeah, that must be a valid point. Even a gambler is getting the highest odds, how much they could make? Some 10x or 25x of their bankroll? But if they get into legal actions, that may risk their rest of life; definitely anyone could make multifold of money from other opportunities. Honestly greediness must be playing and leading gamblers to go against their law here. A law abiding gambler never will look for such a fixed match betting for any reasons.

Recently someone tried to contact me in telegram for fixed match betting on one famous crypto gambling platform; not sure how true what they were talking but I immediately blocked them and deleted the chat history.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Betwrong on November 05, 2021, 09:51:39 AM
We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Yeah, that must be a valid point. Even a gambler is getting the highest odds, how much they could make? Some 10x or 25x of their bankroll? But if they get into legal actions, that may risk their rest of life; definitely anyone could make multifold of money from other opportunities. Honestly greediness must be playing and leading gamblers to go against their law here. A law abiding gambler never will look for such a fixed match betting for any reasons.

Recently someone tried to contact me in telegram for fixed match betting on one famous crypto gambling platform; not sure how true what they were talking but I immediately blocked them and deleted the chat history.

I would do exactly the same. Most likely those clowns that contacted you can't do sh*t in regard to fixing matches, especially when we are talking of a famous crypto gambling platform. It would be worth investigating if there was a chance that they could do something, but that chance is more than likely equal to zero, so why waste time?


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Kasabus on November 05, 2021, 01:46:14 PM
We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Yeah, that must be a valid point. Even a gambler is getting the highest odds, how much they could make? Some 10x or 25x of their bankroll? But if they get into legal actions, that may risk their rest of life; definitely anyone could make multifold of money from other opportunities. Honestly greediness must be playing and leading gamblers to go against their law here. A law abiding gambler never will look for such a fixed match betting for any reasons.

Recently someone tried to contact me in telegram for fixed match betting on one famous crypto gambling platform; not sure how true what they were talking but I immediately blocked them and deleted the chat history.

I would do exactly the same. Most likely those clowns that contacted you can't do sh*t in regard to fixing matches, especially when we are talking of a famous crypto gambling platform. It would be worth investigating if there was a chance that they could do something, but that chance is more than likely equal to zero, so why waste time?
I think these people are bots, they message random telegram users and offer their fixed game information for money, though most of us are probably aware of this I'm sure there are still gamblers who fall for this kind of scam.

You know, it could also look real because what if their tip will hit, then most probably the gambler will try to avail again as he/she is more confident, but if the tipster will run out of luck and bet will not win, that's the time the gambler will realize he was only fooled, too late.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on November 05, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
People most of the time do not think things through, there are only two ways to fix matches with money or with threats, and the kind of person that can use either one of those methods is probably someone you do not want to be around as it is obvious they have no moral compass and can do whatever is necessary to get what they want, so when you think about it in this way we see that it is not worth to try to become part of those circles that can fix matches.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: galambo on November 05, 2021, 05:40:26 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


My area of interest is cricket,  so I will talk from that prespective. Yes in cricket, match fixing is real and there are many instances where players were caught red handed. There are not many instance of match fixing in 60s, 70 and 80s. As cricket start growing in terms of money , we start seeing instances of match fixing. First one which I remember was of South Africa Captain Hansie Cronje. On this day in 2000: Hansie Cronje sacked over match-fixing scandal (https://www.bt.com/sport/news/2021/april/on-this-day-in-2000-hansie-cronje-sacked-over-match-fixing-scandal)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: carlisle1 on November 05, 2021, 05:46:08 PM
I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
People most of the time do not think things through, there are only two ways to fix matches with money or with threats, and the kind of person that can use either one of those methods is probably someone you do not want to be around as it is obvious they have no moral compass and can do whatever is necessary to get what they want, so when you think about it in this way we see that it is not worth to try to become part of those circles that can fix matches.

You'll find yourself being victimized if you chased for this kind of people.
They can easily change the turn off events with money and influenced those people are very capable of manipulating the outcome,

either you'll be lucky to take some portion if fixed match went according to how you bought it or you may suffered with a great loss if the outcome

Turns against you. Fixed match can always be fix you don't have any clear direction and you don't have any idea if you are dealing with the right person behind.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fortify on November 05, 2021, 05:47:14 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They are most definitely real but chances are they only affect a very small percentage of any professional sports league. If you can imagine that professional players are meant to be the very best and are hired based on that skillset, yet the main way of rigging a competition would be to intentionally lose. If you keep losing as both an individual or a team player then eventually you will end up competing only in the lower and less profitable ranks of the game. It is usually pretty obvious when teams or solo players have intentionally attempted to rig a game, because they are usually favorites and have to make some rather silly mistakes in their usually solid game play to let the opponent win, if you do that enough times it comes under a lot of scrutiny.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: mindrust on November 05, 2021, 05:55:05 PM
in my opinion is better to avoid trying to "cheat" and game the system for a personal gain

I agree in spirit but you can't win in the long term without cheating. Gambling doesn't work that way.

there are so many ways to make money without fooling someone or having to rely on a "hot tip" that may be a scam...

Yeah that's called working.

People don't understand that gambling is for fun. It is not about making money. Not for you anyways. That's job of the casino owner ;)


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Lucasgabd on November 07, 2021, 10:00:05 PM
in my opinion is better to avoid trying to "cheat" and game the system for a personal gain

I agree in spirit but you can't win in the long term without cheating. Gambling doesn't work that way.

there are so many ways to make money without fooling someone or having to rely on a "hot tip" that may be a scam...

Yeah that's called working.

People don't understand that gambling is for fun. It is not about making money. Not for you anyways. That's job of the casino owner ;)

depends on the game, but it's definitely harder to win when odds are against you

well, there are passive income strategies that aren't exactly work too, but yes, working is a good way to make money


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on November 07, 2021, 10:26:59 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


They are most definitely real but chances are they only affect a very small percentage of any professional sports league. If you can imagine that professional players are meant to be the very best and are hired based on that skillset, yet the main way of rigging a competition would be to intentionally lose. If you keep losing as both an individual or a team player then eventually you will end up competing only in the lower and less profitable ranks of the game. It is usually pretty obvious when teams or solo players have intentionally attempted to rig a game, because they are usually favorites and have to make some rather silly mistakes in their usually solid game play to let the opponent win, if you do that enough times it comes under a lot of scrutiny.

If you do that in a big sport where people can easily detect if you intentionally did such mistakes you'll be questionable, fixed games mostly happened with small / unpopular competitions, money can manipulate those on the lower leagues, while with big leagues and popular sports, medias are everywhere a mistake will surely be eyed for questioning and players/teams are all liable if proven.

Most of those professional stars are fully aware of the consequences in case involvement with kind of illegal things has been proven.,

A tough call for them as they will risk their fame and reliability just for the sake of some money, unless it's worth taking everything for granted. ::) :P


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: molsewid on November 07, 2021, 10:55:58 PM

If you do that in a big sport where people can easily detect if you intentionally did such mistakes you'll be questionable, fixed games mostly happened with small / unpopular competitions, money can manipulate those on the lower leagues, while with big leagues and popular sports, medias are everywhere a mistake will surely be eyed for questioning and players/teams are all liable if proven.

Most of those professional stars are fully aware of the consequences in case involvement with kind of illegal things has been proven.,

A tough call for them as they will risk their fame and reliability just for the sake of some money, unless it's worth taking everything for granted. ::) :P


Usually unpopular sports like local sports draws a little attention than those in big sports and most probably fixed matches will be likely real in this category of sports. Like what you've mentioned mate big and known sports have the media and people's eyeing the anticipated event so in most cases those players in this type of game are a well skilled player so definitely it would be hard to fixed a match of this type of game. However, either fixed matches happen on a small spots event or in a big event it shouldn't be tolerated because the probable victims are those bettor who don't have any idea about it.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: qwertyup23 on November 07, 2021, 11:24:16 PM
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Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

This is one of the challenges in match-fixing on how you could prove that such event did happen. One might argue that the opposing team might have a 'bad day' as to their performance but a proper investigation and comparison of their old games can be used to determine if they are intentionally throwing the match or not.

Like what I previously posted and shared, there was a match involving two (2) basketball teams where the other team was intentionally throwing the game (e.g. giving fouls, shooting airballs, turnovers, etc.) and it was investigated and proved that they intentionally did it. Another thing, most match-fixing happens on a small and niche community where the teams are comfortable enough to do it due to the relaxed security and supervision.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: 24Kt on November 07, 2021, 11:32:46 PM
<...>
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

This is one of the challenges in match-fixing on how you could prove that such event did happen. One might argue that the opposing team might have a 'bad day' as to their performance but a proper investigation and comparison of their old games can be used to determine if they are intentionally throwing the match or not.

Like what I previously posted and shared, there was a match involving two (2) basketball teams where the other team was intentionally throwing the game (e.g. giving fouls, shooting airballs, turnovers, etc.) and it was investigated and proved that they intentionally did it. Another thing, most match-fixing happens on a small and niche community where the teams are comfortable enough to do it due to the relaxed security and supervision.

Such investigations usually take long time as they need to carefully gather possible evidences, witnesses and other factors that may have contributed the fixed-match situation. They need to verify the validity of the information as well. So these cases are not easy to resolve because they need to be really sure that match-fixing did happen. Because it will ruin the career of the athletes involved and also those organizations or personnel that took part with the situation.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: JohnBitCo on November 08, 2021, 10:01:30 AM
<...>
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

This is one of the challenges in match-fixing on how you could prove that such event did happen. One might argue that the opposing team might have a 'bad day' as to their performance but a proper investigation and comparison of their old games can be used to determine if they are intentionally throwing the match or not.

Like what I previously posted and shared, there was a match involving two (2) basketball teams where the other team was intentionally throwing the game (e.g. giving fouls, shooting airballs, turnovers, etc.) and it was investigated and proved that they intentionally did it. Another thing, most match-fixing happens on a small and niche community where the teams are comfortable enough to do it due to the relaxed security and supervision.

Such investigations usually take long time as they need to carefully gather possible evidences, witnesses and other factors that may have contributed the fixed-match situation. They need to verify the validity of the information as well. So these cases are not easy to resolve because they need to be really sure that match-fixing did happen. Because it will ruin the career of the athletes involved and also those organizations or personnel that took part with the situation.

Another reason for the delay in such investigations is that money is being used to change the descsion or hide the victims who have been involved in match fixing.
 If found guilty, it can ruin the career of the player and at the same time it is an embarsement for the country, so they try their best to keep and resolve the matter under the table.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: kotajikikox on November 08, 2021, 11:02:03 AM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


My area of interest is cricket,  so I will talk from that prespective. Yes in cricket, match fixing is real and there are many instances where players were caught red handed. There are not many instance of match fixing in 60s, 70 and 80s. As cricket start growing in terms of money , we start seeing instances of match fixing. First one which I remember was of South Africa Captain Hansie Cronje. On this day in 2000: Hansie Cronje sacked over match-fixing scandal (https://www.bt.com/sport/news/2021/april/on-this-day-in-2000-hansie-cronje-sacked-over-match-fixing-scandal)
Yes cricket is one of the most corrupt game from many perspective as this was being rigged for long time now. there are more proofs and even involved people that speaks out already .
so this has been one of the irresponsible sports to bet in , let us not gamble inside gambling , just Bet and enjoy and never give consent in cheating.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on November 08, 2021, 02:11:26 PM

Usually unpopular sports like local sports draws a little attention than those in big sports and most probably fixed matches will be likely real in this category of sports. Like what you've mentioned mate big and known sports have the media and people's eyeing the anticipated event so in most cases those players in this type of game are a well skilled player so definitely it would be hard to fixed a match of this type of game. However, either fixed matches happen on a small spots event or in a big event it shouldn't be tolerated because the probable victims are those bettor who don't have any idea about it.

I agree!  :) That kind of business should not be tolerated, and if there're rumors about it, the league or organization who are involved in this kind of activities should held investigations a deeper one that will prevent the reputation of their organization at risk.

There are people who continue to believe that they'll be able to find someone/insider that will give them big benefits.

But in the end those kinds of people only brought big losses and regretful actions that they've taken. B very wise and instead, play with luck and do your proper research in each game that you'll going to participate and bet.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: wxa7115 on November 08, 2021, 06:20:06 PM
<...>
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.
The most likely way to find fixed matches comes probably from those that fixed the matches, people love to talk and brag about what they do and if they can fix an important match they will want to share that with someone.

Eventually this information reaches the wrong person and the authorities finally find out about it, however those are only suspicions, there are probably way more cases but since there is no direct evidence then this is something really difficult to prove, which is why we see a scandal every single time a case can in fact be proven and we find out a series of matches were fixed.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: carlisle1 on November 08, 2021, 06:53:02 PM
The most likely way to find fixed matches comes probably from those that fixed the matches, people love to talk and brag about what they do and if they can fix an important match they will want to share that with someone.

Eventually this information reaches the wrong person and the authorities finally find out about it, however those are only suspicions, there are probably way more cases but since there is no direct evidence then this is something really difficult to prove, which is why we see a scandal every single time a case can in fact be proven and we find out a series of matches were fixed.

Some cases happened and being proven in a small league, I remember a basketball game where an obvious act of fixing the game was done.

The league organizer imposed removal of the players who are involved, permanently banned them from playing again in any teams that the league has,

It's really happening and if there's a deeper investigation probably even in much bigger sports, they will find a kind of activities that happening around.

But until now, we are not hearing any good or strong evidence that will bring someone out of this illegal business.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: ReiMomo on November 08, 2021, 07:04:50 PM
Though its going to be really fun in knowing which team is planned to win and to bet on it and gain profits, Its not really fair in fixing a game so. I remember, it happened in Cricket and many were warned and given penalty as well. Since, its money involved, everyone who bets on, will not be happy to know if the match was fixed. Unless and until the information is leaked out, its going to be very entertaining.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: SirLancelot on November 08, 2021, 08:44:57 PM
Though its going to be really fun in knowing which team is planned to win and to bet on it and gain profits, Its not really fair in fixing a game so. I remember, it happened in Cricket and many were warned and given penalty as well. Since, its money involved, everyone who bets on, will not be happy to know if the match was fixed. Unless and until the information is leaked out, its going to be very entertaining.
Basically match-fixing is not for entertainment purposes but it is kind of rapid money making shortcut for the people who got power to manipulate the results of games. Honestly I never prefer to bet in fixed matches even I got many opportunities to bet on such matches. Because, in my country match fixing is severely prohibited and participating anything related to that will be treated as big offensive. So, instead of risking my life just for few dollars of profits, I just decided to stay away from that always.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: passwordnow on November 09, 2021, 12:12:43 PM
Though its going to be really fun in knowing which team is planned to win and to bet on it and gain profits, Its not really fair in fixing a game so.
There's no fun on it if there are people who actually know the game has already been fixed and sold. Poor those bettors that are hoping to get a win with that match not knowing that it's already been sold. Profit to those who know but a bad thing for those that have no idea that the game is fixed.

I remember, it happened in Cricket and many were warned and given penalty as well. Since, its money involved, everyone who bets on, will not be happy to know if the match was fixed. Unless and until the information is leaked out, its going to be very entertaining.
If there's a sports commission and organization that are handling these tournaments and games, hopefully they'll impose a lifetime ban to those that will be  involved to any fix match.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Betwrong on November 09, 2021, 12:17:30 PM
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I think these people are bots, they message random telegram users and offer their fixed game information for money, though most of us are probably aware of this I'm sure there are still gamblers who fall for this kind of scam.

You know, it could also look real because what if their tip will hit, then most probably the gambler will try to avail again as he/she is more confident, but if the tipster will run out of luck and bet will not win, that's the time the gambler will realize he was only fooled, too late.

That's a possibility, of course. You know, there is a fraudulent scheme performed by some sophisticated scammers: they offer to return your money back if it didn't work out. And they deliver on their promise! This way can be milking their victims for all eternity. What's more is that they(victims) tell their friends about "fairness" of the scammers, and some of their friends join in as well.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Silberman on November 09, 2021, 06:16:31 PM
<...>
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/15/match-fixing-suspicions-raised-in-1100-cases-since-pandemic-start-sportradar)

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

This is one of the challenges in match-fixing on how you could prove that such event did happen. One might argue that the opposing team might have a 'bad day' as to their performance but a proper investigation and comparison of their old games can be used to determine if they are intentionally throwing the match or not.

Like what I previously posted and shared, there was a match involving two (2) basketball teams where the other team was intentionally throwing the game (e.g. giving fouls, shooting airballs, turnovers, etc.) and it was investigated and proved that they intentionally did it. Another thing, most match-fixing happens on a small and niche community where the teams are comfortable enough to do it due to the relaxed security and supervision.

Such investigations usually take long time as they need to carefully gather possible evidences, witnesses and other factors that may have contributed the fixed-match situation. They need to verify the validity of the information as well. So these cases are not easy to resolve because they need to be really sure that match-fixing did happen. Because it will ruin the career of the athletes involved and also those organizations or personnel that took part with the situation.
While true those investigations also take a lot of time because the investigators are doing their best to hide the worst aspects of the cheating scandal, most of the time the one that investigates a cheating scandal is not the police but the sport association, do you really think they want to expose their sport as being full of cheaters and that the results people thought legitimate are for the most part fake? If they did that they will lose their audience, so they just let a small amount of the cheating reach the ears of the public, punish a small number of people to make it seem as if they are doing something and then they try to make people forget about all what happened.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: AakZaki on November 09, 2021, 06:32:32 PM
Basically match-fixing is not for entertainment purposes but it is kind of rapid money making shortcut for the people who got power to manipulate the results of games.
~snip~
Match-fixing I think will always be there, it's just that maybe it's visible or not. I think it undermines a sporting order that boasts about spotify. I'm sure at the moment it's still happening and I think the culprit is a person who has very large funds. They mobilize some sports criminals with the aim of making a profit. My country also has match-fixing. Football administrators have severely punished the perpetrators and are prohibited from doing activities in the sport of football, even banned from the stadium. Most recently I also heard on local television via a talk show, if any referee contacted with an identity is given and testified that the setting of scores in football still occurs. It's really sad.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: Fredomago on November 09, 2021, 07:02:38 PM
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I think these people are bots, they message random telegram users and offer their fixed game information for money, though most of us are probably aware of this I'm sure there are still gamblers who fall for this kind of scam.

You know, it could also look real because what if their tip will hit, then most probably the gambler will try to avail again as he/she is more confident, but if the tipster will run out of luck and bet will not win, that's the time the gambler will realize he was only fooled, too late.

That's a possibility, of course. You know, there is a fraudulent scheme performed by some sophisticated scammers: they offer to return your money back if it didn't work out. And they deliver on their promise! This way can be milking their victims for all eternity. What's more is that they(victims) tell their friends about "fairness" of the scammers, and some of their friends join in as well.
Oh well, that's really the case and they will keep multiplying thinking that scammers are really serious about the business, some of them will allow you to win, but in the long-run when you already attached and you already entrusted your money, suddenly it will turn against you and everything that you are enjoying will be replaced by big regrets following those people.

Be wise and not to fall from this kind of offer. It' always better to play with your own understanding and if you really want to go deeper, best to work on your knowledge and keep digging to gain more important information.


Title: Re: Issue of fixed Matches
Post by: goaldigger on November 09, 2021, 08:25:35 PM
Basically match-fixing is not for entertainment purposes but it is kind of rapid money making shortcut for the people who got power to manipulate the results of games.
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Match-fixing I think will always be there, it's just that maybe it's visible or not. I think it undermines a sporting order that boasts about spotify. I'm sure at the moment it's still happening and I think the culprit is a person who has very large funds. They mobilize some sports criminals with the aim of making a profit. My country also has match-fixing. Football administrators have severely punished the perpetrators and are prohibited from doing activities in the sport of football, even banned from the stadium. Most recently I also heard on local television via a talk show, if any referee contacted with an identity is given and testified that the setting of scores in football still occurs. It's really sad.
Sports are just like politicians, some of them are corrupt and its also happening in my country. Fix matching can’t be stopped, they are already here even if its not that visible. Just enjoy the game and place your bet only to your familiar teams since most of the teams on lower bracket are doing this kind of dirty games. I also believe that some referees are being paid for the bad calls, as long as there’s money involve its really possible.