Issue of fixed Matches

[judeafante]

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

They organized secretly players, coaches, referees, and sometimes owners to fix the game they do it for money and standing, sports events are part of gambling whenever an underdog wins only a few wins a jackpot

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams where matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

[arwin100]

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

This is due to the promoters or influencer who always show how easy to get money on gambling and even if this is a hoax they will publish it on their channels so that they can get views as well as referrals. They don't care about on what will happen to newbies that's why we see so many of them caught of by the reality that its really hard to earn on gambling and the result is negative to them.

[l3pox]

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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

[AicecreaME]

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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

[Botnake]

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One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

yes, scammers are also usually good at persuasion and use mental triggers to make you act without thinking
urgency and scarcity are commons ones
it's interesting because if you study marketing and behavior you learn a lot about social engineering too

This could possibly happen, it's a 50:50 as well, it could be either a lie or a truth, but yes, I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

You can do research but it will not guarantee you a win, a fixed match info will guarantee a win as long as the tipster is legit, you are like reading the script of a movie and you will know what's going to happen in the end.

[passwordnow]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

[mv1986]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.

[Fredomago]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

No wonder fixed game or rumors with fixed games continue to exist, expert or experienced gamblers who monitors the event understand how this kind of activities taking place, they are accepting the possibilities that there is really someone behind who's controlling the league. Though it's just rumors and if there's something that being identified, it's mostly in the small league.

But with big events, it's tough to pinpoint if which games are really part of game fixing. The team or players are very well known enough to
take part in this kind of controversy.

Though we can't conclude that there's none.

[Silberman]

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?

Yes, they are real.

But are you able to captalise on any fixed matches? I highly doubt it.

There are a ton of scammers who fake having fixed matches information but at the end of the day what they're trying to do is just get you to pay them a share of any profits you make. They do this until you lose - in which case, of course, they just stop contacting you.

I've personally seen these scams happen in the past and it's all a game of numbers. The more people they reach out to, the more likely someone is going to win and think that the matches are actually fixed.

This is very common, and it is in fact incredibly simple how this is done, for example if the scammer has access to a list of emails that are interested in gambling they can send half of that list a result of a match and they send the other half the opposite result, they do this for several games, at the end there is a small subset of people that have received all the winners and that is when they ask you money as the recipient of that email believes the scammer is for real when he is in fact only playing a numbers game.

[RealMalatesta]

for example if the scammer has access to a list of emails that are interested in gambling they can send half of that list a result of a match and they send the other half the opposite result, they do this for several games, at the end there is a small subset of people that have received all the winners and that is when they ask you money as the recipient of that email believes the scammer is for real when he is in fact only playing a numbers game.

Yeah possible, but what about the bookies who has fixed a match and know the result of an upcoming match when he got access to such a list of gambler's email/mobile number? Definitely they will try to maximize the odds by spreading opposite result to group people who are tend to bet with.

Honestly I have received such email and PM from newbies of this forum itself. There are hundreds of such scammy telegram groups are available. They may not give all tips for making you lose. They may give tips which may get you at least 50% chances to win and another 50% of betting will boost their profits by enabling you to bet opposite to their match fixing.

[passwordnow]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Especially when you take into account that there were so blatantly obvious thrown games in the past that they now try to become more sophisticated in fixing games. I guess there is no doubt that there is still fixing going on, but there is such a vast majority of betting options these days that I believe that even plays into the hands of scammers. Fixing a game with an own goal or a penalty is really obvious, but what about a defender's mistake to kick the ball to a corner during the first five while pretending to just technically mess up. Sure it could still be suspicious, but as it might not be decisive for the game there will also be less scrutiny.

Yeah, you can't just ignore obvious moves that shouldn't be done. You'll find it suspicious if you're going to watch that afterward and analyze the game.
You can really spot them on and can't ignore the fact that this should be done like that or this. You'll have that realization that there's something wrong if you go through and observe the game again.

[bekti3]

One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.

Greedy people often believe that there are always lapses and shortcut ways to easily earned money from this venue. They are trying to increase the chance of their winning by believing that there's such kind of activities.

And here comes the scammers. They are the ones who really enjoy this business; they are alluring people by saying that they have some insiders inside the league/sport and they can easily manipulate the outcome. Those who believes are just blindly entrusting their fate to people who are collecting a good amount of cash. If luck permits, bets will win. If not, they can easily say that they've been rigged

This one is one of the reason why they get scam by what they think betting advisors,fixers and insiders since they think they can get high probabilities but unfortunately they end up losing more since they are just deceive so maybe its good not to take this option since this is more risky for us. Better if we really want to win just bet on the sports we are familiar on since Fix matches rarely happening this days since we are now on modern ages where those kind of activities cannot prolong due to the technology.

Unfortunately, there are people who still believe on easy money on sports betting that's why they are risking their money on that service.

But even I'm having difficulty in sports betting, I will not end up paying for such service. I don't understand why other people believe in such fixed match claim offers where in the first place, those offers came from an unknown person and out of nowhere.

This is due to the promoters or influencer who always show how easy to get money on gambling and even if this is a hoax they will publish it on their channels so that they can get views as well as referrals. They don't care about on what will happen to newbies that's why we see so many of them caught of by the reality that its really hard to earn on gambling and the result is negative to them.

yep, as you said, they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.

[fullhdpixel]

they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.

Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.

[Johnyz]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.

[Oshosondy]

Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.

Are you sure about this? I am not thinking so, many fixed matches are later known from the match played and through thorough investigations, but the betting sites would have forgotten about it and will not give back money to those that lose and will not also ask for the betting money from those that win. I have seen some fixed matches before as a result of FIFA investigating it and found it to be true. This is most likely common in small matches, that is why I do not go for small matches because they can be fixed when many pre match and in-play bettors will lose. The best is just to go for big leagues like EPL, Seria A, La Liga and Bundesliga and many like that. Though any match can be fixed, but such matches have lowest chance of been fixed.

[bitgolden]

I definitely agree that you must stick on your jurisdiction about on a certain match because a great research is much better than an information about the match is fixed. This situation is very tricky though, since you'll have second thoughts on what you're gonna do in order to win.

Yes, as per my country gambling regulations, even I am not into any of match fixing but going by the information on match fixing and trying to make use of such information for my personal benefits will my lead to severe legal consequences. Honestly I need to keep any such mail or anything arriving to me highly confidential otherwise authorities may dig on my winning a bet to prove my relation with match fixing.

Usually mobile conversation are too dangerous in this regard and all other corresponding may not get us problems. I usually stay away from any of tipsters who are promoting themselves for availability of fixed matches. I just want to gamble problem free and I never prefer to gamble illegal by any means.

[Cling18]

they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.

Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.

We shouldn't believe anything that influencers would say because they're just doing it to earn money. They don't really care if they're stating facts about what they're promoting or if it would deceive new players. Their concern is how they're going to earn through it so we better do our own research instead of listening to them.

[jrrsparkles]

It's very much real, you cannot tell the difference between an upset and a fixed game, they will try to make it real because there's a big risk for them if they are caught.

If you're on the expert level of analysis for the sport that you love and are a fan of. You'll be able somehow to spot on which is a true upset and likely a thrown and sold game.
But it's true that there's difficulty in finding which of them are actually thrown because when there are fixed matches, they're likely not to do obvious things that will destroy and spot it by their fans.

Even if you are an expect you can’t know until the start of the match, we can just notice this right after so technically many bettors already placed their bets by that time, and knowing that its a fixed match it can ruin everything. This has been an issue for many boxers and matched, just place a bet that you can afford to lose always.

As a fan's perspective even a legit game may look like a fixed one but its just a sport mo matter how good they are in their stats if they fail to bring the good effort will fail against the least favourite one so we shouldn't blame people every lose as fixed ones and never forget that sports is also a bridge to connect different nations not haters against each others.

[Woodie]

If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

[Oasisman]

If these matches are truly fixed then only a few individuals are privileged to have access to such.  And let's not forget that if someone is found in the habit of such this has hefty punishments which isn't reflected in the low subscription amounts they want to claim which is just too good to be true. And I have seen a growing trend claiming to be selling such fixed matches which I find impossible to believe because fixing a match isn't easy as many would think.

Fixing match may not be easy to perform, but what's more difficult is to find access into this kind of underground gambling activities. Fixed matches doesn't easily leaked, I highly doubted the OP's friend is either speculating and anticipating possible sports fraud or was also invited by someone to follow such betting pattern in belief that the following games were being fixed.