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October 20, 2021, 12:14:37 PM
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Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.



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October 20, 2021, 12:45:48 PM
 #102

I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes it's real it can be fixed, many individuals are collaborating to fix a game, some are perfectly done and there are times it is very obvious or evident, it's hard to prove them unless there are whistleblowers or the results and actions are very obvious, mafias and high rollers are doing this for their gain, that is why sports organizations have their own body to investigate and look for irregularities after the game.

I don't know how your friend got the info, it should be confidential to those involved and those bettors if your friend got it right and he knows it's fixed it's better for him to be quiet, he is risking himself if he exposes it.

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October 20, 2021, 01:56:05 PM
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Different people does have different impressions which it is really just normal to have different choices on where people been doing.Risk management is a must have because if you dont know on how
to handle up yourself then you would really most likely ending up on bad decisions and when it comes to fixed matches thing then these things does really exist but pointing out
with your very own eyes is really hard.You couldnt tell if a particular game was fixed or totally fair and square.

yes, this is quite interesting too
how comfortable a person is in a determined position/investment/situation will vary depending on their time preferences, liquidity necessity, spending on daily life and many other factors
that story about even twin brothers having way different lifestyles depending on education and personal preferences

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October 20, 2021, 02:45:28 PM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


Yes this happens in reality, but only few or just the top brass and the management knows about it because if they were to spread this to others like friends or family then that might put them in a dangerous situations. There are also some rumors that the coach or referees are paid to get the game fixed to extend the league or season.

I don't think that the players can have an option to decline whatever the managements tells them to do, because either way these players are also getting paid to keep them silent.
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October 20, 2021, 03:21:38 PM
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Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

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October 20, 2021, 03:49:45 PM
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Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.
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October 20, 2021, 06:55:14 PM
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Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

in this case you mention makes more sense to consider the possibility of some games being fixed
but do you think this also happens in entire plays where the whole team would know? coordinating dozens of people without the information leaking would be... hard

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October 20, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


One thing to consider that your friend probably does not realize or he has an extremely rare contact who knows what they're talking about (highly unlikely) is that people who rig these games have to pay big money to pull it off and it is still extremely high risk. Unless we're talking about some small scale college sports team where big bets would be obvious and investigated - making large profits difficult, then there would be no reason for the person fixing the game to give up this information. It exposes the person rigging the game to more risk if a single extra person found out, which could result in their own large bets being forfeited if discovered and future profits from the inside cheater getting wrecked. It's highly unlikely your friend really had any special information.

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October 20, 2021, 08:38:24 PM
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Obviously this is the worst way to bet.
As real as they may be... I won't deny it, despite being very susceptible to blows.
But the chances of winning are much smaller than choosing yourself and betting on the matches you want and that you know the teams better.
In addition of course to paying cheaper, because in these fixed bets a percentage ends up with the middleman.
There is no advantage, tell your friend to run away from it.
Honestly, betting like this is just like you are betting to lose. Yeah, seeing no way to win and it was just a waste of time. I'm not sure how gamblers will react when they know it was a fixed game or the players themselves. I'd rather go betting to the real match, this fixed game emphasizing how manipulation can happen inside the casinos.

But anyway, if we'd come just for entertainment, well, that seems okay and you'll never get frustrated with the result.
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Fixed matches are real.
One Mafia member already wrote a book about that and it was said in the interview that he was given permission to write the book as long as other names will not be included or else it will be his life that will be on the line.

How does it work? Hell if we know. The secrecy of that is intact and all those who will get the information will be their customers only. Those who pay in exchange of the information given to them. If your friend received the leaked information it could be fake or not, you wouldn't know.
Other groups could be confusing the bettors to balance the bet.

Unfortunately this is the truth, it may seem something that you only watch in movies or something similar but it happens all the time, we must remember that even if most of the time we concentrate on the most popular sports and leagues there are many sport events happening all over the world in leagues that are not really popular.

And even if many casinos will not give any attention to those events that does not mean there are not local bookies you can place a bet on those events, so there is a strong incentive to fix games, and since those players do not earn a lot of money they can be easily convinced to lose a game if the money is right for them.
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October 20, 2021, 08:54:32 PM
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Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Match fixing is illegal in my country hence I will eave off that team once I come know about the match fixing. Usually the highly talented team are the primary target for bookies to get them fixed for a huge money. So, next time if you come across an underdog is winning then money might have played a very big role. Shocking and surprises in sports industry is most common but unfortunately bookies exploit those similar salutations.

In my opinion, fixed matches are the real cancer in gambling industry hence I believe that we must stay from such matches.  
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October 20, 2021, 08:57:51 PM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.
You were with your friend who claims that he got some random numbers that were sent to him and he was placing bets, you could have seen first hand whether he won or not and you could have asked him how he got them. It was far better than asking us here who does not have any idea how to find fixed matches  Tongue.
I think this is far from it. Your most unlikely to get an answer on how these games got fixed and the numbers went round. A magician never shows the what's beneath his sleeves, that would be letting the cat out if the bag. They tend to keep this a secrete for some 9bvious confidential reasons though, I doubt games are really fixed, its always a result of some deep prediction but then, the results can always go sideways as it is with predictions and betting. There would be lucks at times but, fixing bets is really rear especially in top leagues but possible in the minor leagues where you see a lot of dominance from from particular time.



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October 20, 2021, 09:16:24 PM
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Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?
Match fixing is illegal in my country hence I will eave off that team once I come know about the match fixing. Usually the highly talented team are the primary target for bookies to get them fixed for a huge money. So, next time if you come across an underdog is winning then money might have played a very big role. Shocking and surprises in sports industry is most common but unfortunately bookies exploit those similar salutations.

In my opinion, fixed matches are the real cancer in gambling industry hence I believe that we must stay from such matches.  
No matter where you go then fixed matching would always been illegal because if its allowed then it cant really be called betting on the first place since it is already on that manipulative side of things.
Whenever you do get some info's like these on random stranger then it is mostly a fraud or scam and dont tend to believe it or even into someone which are known in sports.
You cant be sure if those are just random or wild guesses or totally a real fixed matches but getting these kind of info is something really hard to to acquire unless if youre filthy rich.

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October 20, 2021, 10:27:00 PM
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Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

A lot of scammers/spammers for example, on Telegram, like to sell their lies because they know that telegram is so anonymous that nobody will ever come after them. Obviously not for small amounts like 10 dollars.

The REAL fixers don't sell their info. That would make no sense since they would be losing money that they could win instead.

I doubt more than 10 people will ever be in on the real info.

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October 20, 2021, 10:54:37 PM
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Fixed games exist, but whoever is "selling" them online for $10 doesn't have any info about them. There are various reasons why matches get fixed. It's not always to profit from illegal gambling, although that is surely one of the biggest reasons they exist.

Sometimes clubs help each other when one of them needs a point or two to reach certain goals. If you let us win today, we will return the favor when you need it. I am sure matches get fixed as part of the negotiations when signing new players. The club might be willing to drop the asking price if they win the next time they meet.

All you need is one player to fix a match. Football bets on markets such as "will there be a penalty" or "will there be a red card" bring good returns. For such a fix all you need is the keeper or one if the defenders to concede a penalty or make a tackle where he will be shown a red card. The entire team doesn't need to know about it. They might not even lose the match.

A lot of scammers/spammers for example, on Telegram, like to sell their lies because they know that telegram is so anonymous that nobody will ever come after them. Obviously not for small amounts like 10 dollars.

The REAL fixers don't sell their info. That would make no sense since they would be losing money that they could win instead.

I doubt more than 10 people will ever be in on the real info.
Out of 10 people then 10 of those are fake and scammers and also $10 for leaked info is just too dumb for you to believe on and you would just be basically wasting up your own money on believing with those bullshit things.
You should be at least having  that common sense for you to able to avoid such scenario.Fixed matches do exist but you couldnt expect that it would be sell out with 10 bucks.
You would need to shell out thousands of dollars before you could attain those things but you should be wise that they wont really be something easy to attain or can be found.

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October 20, 2021, 11:27:20 PM
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Nobody likes fixed matches but then again, the question is how do you find out if there was any fixing? I don't think its possible in most cases. And if a match is fixed not many people will know about it, if any at all.

The whole point is keeping the fixing under tight wraps so nobody else gets in on the action.

But as far as fixing them, its all up to the top dogs. If they want to fix it, they will and nobody will be the wiser. Roll Eyes

Yes I also doubt that. Fixing matches is a tough thing to pull off even for the criminals. I wonder, why would those who intend to fix matches want that information to be publicly available? Does that help them in any way?

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October 21, 2021, 12:35:26 AM
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Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.
What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.



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October 21, 2021, 06:13:10 AM
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It is possible to identify the match fixing plan by monitoring the gamblers market before the match by monitoring the market where the gamblers have during the match, one can get a definite idea about distorting the match. When match fixing is done through gamblers, gamblers communicate with players team officials and or referees and usually make money transactions communication or money transactions between them can sometimes be identified and legal action can be taken against them by the court or the organizing group of a particular game. Again sometimes the whole team is involved in match fixing for future convenience which is very difficult to prove.
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October 21, 2021, 07:03:43 AM
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Fixed matches happens all the time. I think they are easily can be found in amateur tournaments or in minor leagues. Often all these games are represented in gambling "live" sports. They just fill the space between professional games. Or admin just fill the list of games with them just so that gambler has more options to bet.

For example, not many players give their best when they play football in league C against a team of 11 friends from a neighborhood. When the price is a diploma. Of course one team can "suddenly" lose if they know that someone made a bet on their opponent.

Were there instances that games are proven to be rigged? I know the speculation as I myself bet on sports and I believe it's happening, but how can we assure that in a certain league, there's a fixing of games happening although someone would say that he got some tip?
We are hard to assure that is happening in a certain league because their action will not show clearly in public and hide it from people, even if they watch close to the match. Only those in the circle will know if the game is a fixed match of the games. Even some players will not know about that. That issue will still issue and if there are no people who act as whistleblowers, that issue will still remain hidden from the public.

Agreed, but some whistleblowers will say anything but everything. However, there are instances when we see a dip in performance or something that isn't quite right, and we wish we could say it was fixed, but we can't be sure because we don't have proof. But if happen that the public will know it was fixed game they will be penalised.
What I am worried about the whistleblowers is they can get shut down by some people who protect the activity and will do anything to prevent someone from telling about the fixed matches to the public. Hopefully, that will be a concern to the clean officers who want to make the sports sporty, healthy, and clean from the fixed match, although doing that will not be easy as it was already rooted from a long time ago.

That's why, before the whistleblower made it public, it was most likely dead. Usually, fixed matches entail a large sum of money, which is extremely important. Officers are also paid, so they are more than likely to do their job. We can't do much about it, but just the owner or people around the game are legitimate, but when it comes to money, I believe that's when fixed matches occur.
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October 21, 2021, 07:19:08 AM
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i know how to spot fixed match, it make me money most of the time  Grin

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