Would you use a VPN on a casino, even if it is not allowed in their ToS?

[Stable090]

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

I don’t know if you are going to stay long in the country you traveled to, I will have just ask you to have little patience and wait till you return back to your country, you should be able to control yourself for few weeks if you won’t stay long without gambling, because if you want to continue gambling with vpn, then you are putting your account at risk, anything can happen at any moment, so I think it’s better you are patient.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

If vpn is against the gambling site TOS, then it’s better you don’t use vpn for it, you might be using vpn and they won’t notice early, but whenever the gambling site discovers that you are using vpn, then you will be losing everything in the gambling site. If you are in a country gambling is illegal and you want to gamble, make sure you use a gambling site that vpn is allow, at least you are free and you are not breaking any rules.

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[Nrcewker]

These type of stupid activities are only done by the gamblers who doesn’t care about his money. If you are one of the person who gambles in order to earn extra income for their family won’t do this dumb act at all. We know the value of our hard earned money, we also know that the casino is not operational in my nation, so why does I will take risk and put my money in danger. In this type of situation, I will rather search for legit alternative of the casino which actually operates in my nation. Moreover never try to break any T&C’s of any casinos, as then they may block your balance at any time.

[Darker45]

I'd rather not take unnecessary risks. If a casino doesn't allow the use of VPN, I would rather not use VPN. But there are casinos that allow the use of VPNs. However, it probably doesn't mean that they allow players from restricted countries who are using VPN to play on their platforms. The restriction stays.

If I am playing from a country that is not blacklisted, travelled to a blacklisted country and use VPN to hide my current location to continue playing while away from home, I am violating the platform's ToS, even if the platform allows the use of it. So why should I do it? I'm risking my account and my money.

[wiss19]

I will definitely not do it if it's now allowed by the platform, I would rather use a different platform which is allowed from where I'm at that moment only to avoid any problems because most of the times, your accounts that you've been using for a long time are very dear to you, especially if there is ranking and VIP and other stuff involved and if you lose your account, you lose all of it and everything that you've wagered so far from that account is all gone, hence, no privileges.

This is the reason why one should have accounts in at least two or three different trusted and reputable platforms, so that if you can't access one of them when you are out of country, etc. You can use the other ones in that time.

[Renampun]

don't shout that the gambling site is a scam, cruel, blah blah blah when your account is locked and your money is frozen (because) you yourself violated the TOS set by the gambling site.

the rules that are mostly set by gambling sites are absolute imo so when we break them the potential for us to get into trouble will be very large, I definitely won't use a VPN when the gambling site I'm going to play on prohibits it (but if they provide an exception then I will continue because in my country there are many gambling sites that are banned), they will definitely think I'm trying to cheat on their gambling site.

[Kakmakr]

I'd rather not take unnecessary risks. If a casino doesn't allow the use of VPN, I would rather not use VPN. But there are casinos that allow the use of VPNs. However, it probably doesn't mean that they allow players from restricted countries who are using VPN to play on their platforms. The restriction stays.

If I am playing from a country that is not blacklisted, travelled to a blacklisted country and use VPN to hide my current location to continue playing while away from home, I am violating the platform's ToS, even if the platform allows the use of it. So why should I do it? I'm risking my account and my money.

Well, this is the kind of responses that I can agree with. The ToS contain a list of restricted countries, so even if VPNs are allowed... gambling from a restricted country are not allowed.

The other thing is this, even if the casino allow VPN use, you still have to look at the ToS of the game providers. They can deny big wins if you break any of their rules too. 

[smyslov]

If you're playing in many casinos and you have been playing for years,  you know how the terms of service work, it's your guide on all your activities in the casino you're playing, so many accusations that backfired against the players are all about violation of the terms, especially about the use of VPN

So if you want your account to have a good standing and your winning confiscated better not use VPN if they do not allow it or if yours is a special case then ask support for advice on how to proceed.

[maydna]

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I don't understand why someone would force their will to gamble on a platform that is strictly off limits to them. I mean a VPN is not the best option for anyone to bypass restrictions because it is one of those violations that can get you in trouble. Of course I would never do it even just to bet a small amount, the essence of the offense is a violation and casino users must comply with it.

There are many casinos that can be used without VPN as long as the country's government and the casino don't prohibit you from participating as a user. Even if this isn't about you, it's clear similar suggestions should be considered by other users.

I think they often use it because they want to get the bonuses offered by casinos, so they keep trying to use a VPN. But after playing for a while, the casino will still find out about it and might give penalties to players who abuse the bonus because they are from a banned country.

It's better not to try it than later get into trouble because the risk of closing the account can happen to us. And it is true that many crypto casinos still allow their users to play gambling there without the need to use a VPN. But if you want to hide where you're from and it's not against casino rules, you can use a VPN.

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I think the better option is to use the other casinos which are allowed in our region or allow the VPN. But again I am against the using of VPN because it can create problems. Because I was reading a thread in which the guy was saying some casinos change the ToS silently and don't say anything to the users. So if a casino is allowing VPN first but it can change the rules anytime so its better that we should not use VPN to safe ourself from future problem.

If it's about silent ToS changes, we can complain to the support so they can explain everything in more detail. But it's better not to use a VPN than to have problems with our account. Especially if using a VPN is prohibited in the regulations, we don't need to try it. Using another casino is a good suggestion, especially if we still want to use a VPN to play gambling, so it won't bother us or cause problems.

[Taskford]

If you're playing in many casinos and you have been playing for years,  you know how the terms of service work, it's your guide on all your activities in the casino you're playing, so many accusations that backfired against the players are all about violation of the terms, especially about the use of VPN

So if you want your account to have a good standing and your winning confiscated better not use VPN if they do not allow it or if yours is a special case then ask support for advice on how to proceed.

Some take a risk because they think that casino will not find out that they didn't use VPN. But problems will occur especially when they win huge amount since.for sure KYC will be ask and if a casino will find out that they came from a country which is forbidden to play on their casino.
Maybe better not to use VPN and not play if we know we are restricted to play so that we can secure our money away from troubles or being confiscated by casino .

[len01]

If it's about silent ToS changes, we can complain to the support so they can explain everything in more detail. But it's better not to use a VPN than to have problems with our account. Especially if using a VPN is prohibited in the regulations, we don't need to try it. Using another casino is a good suggestion, especially if we still want to use a VPN to play gambling, so it won't bother us or cause problems.

there are many popular casino options that can still be used without having to use a VPN, like one of my favorite casinos at the moment, there is a mirror site so that it can still be accessed when someone wants to open the original site but the IP is blocked.
I mean the gambling site that I currently follow has several mirror sites that make it easier for customers not to need to use a VPN to be able to access because usually when using the *****.com site it cannot be accessed but they can use the mirror site *****.ac
so gamblers don't need to use a VPN which will end up being a problem for themselves.

[Synchronice]

I know this is a bit controversial, but some casinos are looking the other way... when people are using VPNs. I know it might be legal in some instances, but you are still taking a risk by using it.

Online gambling is legal in my country, but sometimes I have to travel to a country where it is illegal. I then use a VPN to be able to access the site. This is one of the reasons why some casinos allow people to use VPNs..... but you are still taking a huge risk.

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site. What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

It's absolutely up to you to either accept their ToS or go against it. But keep in mind that if you have balance on casino and you are breaking their ToS, if you get caught, your balance will be frozen, so, your coins will be lost. By the way, you can have a look at this list of VPN providers and check the ones that offer you an option to buy a dedicated IP. By acquiring dedicated IP, you'll avoid problems like being denylisted because it will only belong to you, so CAPTCHAs won't be a problem too since fresh DIPs are not blacklisted.

[lionheart78]

If you're playing in many casinos and you have been playing for years,  you know how the terms of service work, it's your guide on all your activities in the casino you're playing, so many accusations that backfired against the players are all about violation of the terms, especially about the use of VPN

So if you want your account to have a good standing and your winning confiscated better not use VPN if they do not allow it or if yours is a special case then ask support for advice on how to proceed.

Some take a risk because they think that casino will not find out that they didn't use VPN.

It is too naive for a gambler to think that the casino won't find out.  Casino platforms have logs of our access to the platform, some casinos even give notifications if our account is accessed from another IP and I think they don't only know our IP but the machine we use to access the site.

But problems will occur especially when they win huge amount since.for sure KYC will be ask and if a casino will find out that they came from a country which is forbidden to play on their casino.

Well, those are the time when the casino has the chance to make players who breach the contract pay for their mistakes.  

Maybe better not to use VPN and not play if we know we are restricted to play so that we can secure our money away from troubles or being confiscated by casino .

Not maybe, but the certainty that it is better not to use VPN in order to avoid troubles regardless of our location since it was stated that the platform restrict the use of VPN services.

[maydna]

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there are many popular casino options that can still be used without having to use a VPN, like one of my favorite casinos at the moment, there is a mirror site so that it can still be accessed when someone wants to open the original site but the IP is blocked.
I mean the gambling site that I currently follow has several mirror sites that make it easier for customers not to need to use a VPN to be able to access because usually when using the *****.com site it cannot be accessed but they can use the mirror site *****.ac
so gamblers don't need to use a VPN which will end up being a problem for themselves.

If the casino can have a mirror site, it will be an advantage for the casino because if the users cannot visit the main site because of some problem or something, they can visit the mirror site. This makes it easier for users because they can continue gambling as usual without worrying about problems on the main site. And users don't need to use a VPN just to visit the casino to avoid being investigated or blocked by casinos for using a VPN.

[Eureka_07]

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I used VPN bunch of times. I never had any confrontation from casinos about that. What I did was to get their permission if I can play using VPN.
I think casinos have records of our original IPs (and they can verify if that IP is from a VPN or not), if you used VPN (free) the time you created your account, there probably where the problem arrives. Also I do believe that using VPN shouldn't be much of an issue (I might be wrong here though).

[Solosanz]

Well, this is the kind of responses that I can agree with. The ToS contain a list of restricted countries, so even if VPNs are allowed... gambling from a restricted country are not allowed.

The other thing is this, even if the casino allow VPN use, you still have to look at the ToS of the game providers. They can deny big wins if you break any of their rules too. 

That's depends on the restrictions.

There are full restriction/blacklist, certain restriction due to ISP problem (you only need to submit KYC and use VPN to bypass it, it's allowed by them) and small restriction where you can't gamble on few game or providers.

If you're just want to play safe by agreeing every rule of the casino, you're already know what's the answer before creating this thread and each user has their own choice.

[Woodie]

Based on my personal experience,  VPN usage mostly effect unverified accounts, so assuming I am travelling to a country where stake is a blocked and I know stake has a free hand for VPN usage, so what I will do is to first get my account verified in my country since all my documents such as IDs are all issued here in my country, then travel and use VPN to play on stake pending till my return into the country.

This is a valid reason to use a VPN and I think the casino should exempt you from any kind of punishment.

And from personal experience,  being a verified user gives you certain perks like using a VPN for whatever reasons like crossing boarders into places where the service isn't available...but to avoid any kind of drama  best not to try what they can or can not do!!

[Aikidoka]

If there's no risk involved when you use a VPN then it's fine. However, if using a VPN violates the ToS, it's better not to use it as it could potentially lead to your account being locked, and in some cases even worse consequences. If there is no information in the FAQ regarding the use of VPNs on the casino site it would be better to contact them and ask if VPN usage is allowed. This is especially important if you have no access to the website while you're in a different country!

They usually respond within a few days, so in my opinion this is the best thing that you could do.

[panjul07]

Now, the question is.... Will you still use a VPN, if it is not allowed by the ToS on the site.

If there is clear terms that VPN is prohibited by the casino, for sure I will not use VPN as it will be bad for my account.
The main problem is that there are still some casinos that has no clear terms about VPN usage or even some casinos may change their own terms anytime about VPN usage.

What will you do if they "block" your account and take your balance?

Depends on the case because there are few possible cases if it is related to VPN usage:
1. I'm blocked because I know that VPN is not allowed but I use VPN, in this case I will not do anything as I took the risk already by breaking the terms.
2. I'm blocked because there is a sudden change in the terms about VPN usage (from allowed changed to prohibited), in this case I'll make a complaint ofc.
3. Taken balance for both above case, if there is clear terms in their ToS page that balance will be taken for breaking terms, then I cant do thing.
4. Taken balance but there is no clear terms, I will complain.

[yahoo62278]

You take a risk by violating the ToS. If you haven't broken any rule except the VPN, you will probably get lucky and be allowed to withdrawal your funds. If you broke other rules you may lose the account and your funds. We are kind of at the mercy of the websites when it comes to the Tos and KYC shit.

[Coin_trader]

If there's no risk involved when you use a VPN then it's fine. However, if using a VPN violates the ToS, it's better not to use it as it could potentially lead to your account being locked, and in some cases even worse consequences.

Casino typically don’t ban the use VPN if it’s not being use to avoid country restrictions or to have multiple account for promotion abused. Some casino mention specifically the restriction of VPN but their main goal here to discourage those players from restricted country to play in the casino. I think your account will be safe if you live on country that allowed to play in casino even you use VPN because I always use VPN when I’m gambling because I have premium subscription.

If there is no information in the FAQ regarding the use of VPNs on the casino site it would be better to contact them and ask if VPN usage is allowed. This is especially important if you have no access to the website while you're in a different country!

They usually respond within a few days, so in my opinion this is the best thing that you could do.

Casino already have a live support which can give an answer to your inquiry within a few minutes of waiting. I think you are using email support most of the time and don’t use the live support.