'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection?

[LDL]

I am getting lost here. Are suggesting all those are alts managed by naim027 or related to him?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3511520 - LDL

I do not rule it out, since many accounts appeared here after naim027 was exposed, and judging by how they began to communicate here, and in what topics, they are obviously not complete newbies on this forum. I also do not rule out that this could be a completely different farm, not related to naim027 himself, I also take into account the fact that I could just be wrong. But the behavior of a group of these accounts is very strange and they very often appear all together in some specific topics.

This is not a direct accusation against these accounts, just my suspicions. For direct accusations, I have processed very little data to say for sure.

Well, from what angle you seem to me to be Naim027 or John Abraham's alternative account. You can compare me on their post quality, address connection, or merit exchange. You can't compare their alternatives to me in any way. You can bring more concrete evidence as usual. I can honestly say I don't have any alternative accounts.

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I also do not rule out that this could be a completely different farm, not related to naim027 himself, I also take into account the fact that I could just be wrong. But the behavior of a group of these accounts is very strange and they very often appear all together in some specific topics.

I agree with @Poker Player, those accounts seems to be not naim027's alts, but I believe few or all of the accounts are part of another alts. Too bad merit sending to alt accounts isn't deserve to get negative feedback as been pointed by theymos, actually it's an easy way to link alt accounts.

Now I see @John Abraham already get couple of negative feedback from DT members, will the campaign manager kick him? or he will able to keep making money in one of the highest paid signature campaign?

Just want to mention the users who has negative feedback and still not get kicked yet.
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[LDL]

@Ratimov
@Poker Player

Naim027 & John Abraham have presented some important evidence for their alternative account. (Naim027- John Abraham by Bitcoin Transactions with address) (Naim027- John Abraham by same post quality).

But on what basis are you claiming me as their alt?

Connection: John Abraham had participated in 'Yo!Mix' signature campaign for the first time as a full member. He sent his first 3 weeks payment to "naim027" address on 28th January (transaction link). He made another transaction to 'naim027' on 17th February (transaction link).

bech32 address: bc1q3652jcryqgy0l38unay7tx69h56a865z6t8ndx

BTC SegWit Address: bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa

Possible Connection: John Abraham is a participant of whirlwind.money signature campaign now. whirlwind.money team and campaign manager have decided to pay the user on the site through note (and public address) from the 6th round. Surprisingly, 'naim027' started receiving BTC from whirlwind.money reserve address after each weekly payment since then (check his Bitcoin address). While the address of 'John Abraham' hasn't received any transaction after that.

The reserve can always be verified here: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qf8h5k6sash8007vpesymxkw2xsg5d0r3j4l5vmcrwpz2pqu66fjstzgd3r

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[Poker Player]

I agree with @Poker Player, those accounts seems to be not naim027's alts, but I believe few or all of the accounts are part of another alts.

At this point I am already doubting whether all of these will be his alts, due to my previous post in which I have edited to add an analysis of the accounts. If there was one who was caught cheating in the CM campaign and managed 4 alts, of which with 3 he used to make 50 posts a week, if I remember correctly, why wouldn't naim027 be able to manage 6, 7 or 8 alts when most campaigns pay for 25?

[Learn Bitcoin]

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people, and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

I don't think you are blind enough to say I participated in a Pizza contest or Pie Contest or I am a regular in Wall Observer.
I am more into local threads, where I feel more comfortable writing. Merits? I calculated that I got 15 merits from Wall Observer in a lifetime. Check those posts. All of them are typical discussions. Merit farmers don't like the discussion. They post Tweets and Memes to get merits. You are experienced enough to understand what general discussion is and what merit farming is. Being someone's country mate won't make me someone else.

[Poker Player]

My goodness Ratimov, I am looking closely at the profiles you have posted and everything smells bad, very bad.

I forgot to add that I also suspect the user Rigon. It has similar behavior and may be part of the farm I posted here.

In general, everything is very similar to the fact that a group of accounts very strongly abuses the signature campaign of YoMiix, which is run by Royse777.

Lol. Rigon who, as I already mentioned, has several neutral feedbacks of negative spirit, and the only one who has left a really negative feedback is me.

[Dimitri94]

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.

[Poker Player]

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.

Hello Dimitri94. I know you live in Vladivostok, but you wouldn't happen to have a brother who lives in Bangladesh and has selflessly gifted you the account?

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Oh good lord!!!!

That's a banger Mahdirakib....well done!!!

Can't wait for another Hello World || Welcome back again! thread.

[Dimitri94]

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.

Hello Dimitri94. I know you live in Vladivostok, but you wouldn't happen to have a brother who lives in Bangladesh and has selflessly gifted you the account?

I am a Bangladeshi native. Moreover, I have many discussions on local board. You can investigate.

[Poker Player]

I am a Bangladeshi native. Moreover, I have many discussions on local board. You can investigate.

I already knew that. Do you know what a sarcasm is?

[John Abraham]

So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy .

I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

I hope I haven't broken your privacy . USD isn't the usable currency in Bangladesh. How are you receiving USD from him, and what are you doing with the USD?

The question doesn't make sense. I got PayPal for my Bitcoin.

We are talking about the transaction of 2023. How have you communicated with 'naim027' recently if you aren't a staff of Paradice now? You have no evidence to post here as you are creating a fake story.

I used to talk to him via Telegram, and I still do.

WTF, dude?! You can't really be that stupid?

Look. I left Paradice.in mid 2021. I no longer have contact with them. Sil3ntS0ul worked for them till April 2023. After I leave Paradice, Sil3ntS0ul and Seva take over the Paradice representative account. As far as i know, currently, The account is managed by their marketing manager Seva. Paradice.in sponsored 2mBTC prize pool in pumpkin carving contest. I proposed sponsoring the contest to Sil3ntS0ul, who handled the account back then. So, he decides to whom to send merits. I wasn't the only person who got merit from the Paradice account on the pumpkin carving contest. But I got the most. Maybe because he knows me?

If you can prove that - then it's very likely that the accusations about you in this thread can going in different direction. But you don't even prove anything here other than just pretending that the two of you are partners on one of the sites, that's too convoluted for your defense. I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.

You are right, indeed. He always clears the telegram chat after the successful trade. According to him, Bitcoin and crypto trading is banned there, and he doesn't want to keep any evidence. I never felt I should take any screenshots. I have one screenshot I took a few months ago, which I can give you if you want. However, don't you think I have submitted enough evidence to prove that I am an ex-staff of their platform? Those posts I made are not edited. If someone still doubts that I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul are the same people. Why don't they ask their representative account or go to the website and ask their Live support if they had an ex-staff named Agent_John?

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So, you are telling me since I have a Binance account, I have to send money to my Binance for PayPal?
I am not the one who will choose where a buyer will receive their crypto.

Can we have some words from the person who is behind the account Cratoon now?

As far as I know, Currently the account is under their marketing manager Seva. Someone can send him a message in the forum. But, I don't think Seva has any idea whom Sil3ntS0ul sent merits or knows all how the forum works.

@John Abraham, do you have something to show us as suggested by _BlackStar?

I explained above. I can send you too if you want to see it. I got some old screenshots where we both were testing new features and reporting bugs on stage in a telegram group before it launch for production.

[LoyceV]

In my opinion, it would be reasonable to assume naim027 is still around here with some of his multiple accounts which we do not know about.

I've been wondering for a long time: what are the odds so many users who all write on the same local board (Bangladesh) are more or less similar in the way they post? Basically, it makes me feel anyone who earns Merit and uses that board could be an alt account. But since all I had was my gut feeling, I had nothing to go on and didn't really want to Ignore an entire country.

One thing I admire about naim027 is his ability to build up accounts very fast and attract as many as possible merits within a short time.

If I check John Abraham's Merit history, I see many WO-posts, Pizza bake-off contest posts and a few rounds of post reviews from The Sceptical Chymist. It could be a real normal user, but it could also be a very familiar pattern of posting for Merits.

The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

Naim027 and I worked together for a long time, from 2020 to mid-2021, for a casino.

What are the odds, considering there are 169 million people in your country?

I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy.

Is this why you deleted your only post on the local board?

[Little Mouse]

Basically, it makes me feel anyone who earns Merit and uses that board could be an alt account.

In the last one or two years, I always wanted to share most of my smerits with the local board. I haven't counted how many smerits I have shared there but I can assume most of them were. Does that make me alt of them  Well, I wanted to encourage quality posts on the local thread. There are a few newbie accounts that are popping up every day almost. Maybe some of them are alts as I can sometimes see similarities in posts but that alone doesn't prove anything, and I don't have a lot of time to investigate them further. However, it's not only Bangladesh, there are a lot of other nations from where people are abusing a lot of alts. We have seen a member with more than 50 accounts.

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.

[jokers10]

I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

It was that strange thing which attracted my attention while the case with LDL. He has a couple deleted posts in Italian. Well, I thought anyone can speak several languages so it looks strange but not too strange. And what do we see now? You both speak Bangla, English and Italian, you are both mentioned in this topic as possibly alt accounts. I don't blame anyone in anything, but the number of coincidences is growing.

[FatFork]

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So, you are telling me since I have a Binance account, I have to send money to my Binance for PayPal?
I am not the one who will choose where a buyer will receive their crypto.

You can. But as I said before, it doesn't make much sense.

Allow me to reiterate a crucial point that I mentioned earlier. Despite your claims of actively using Binance to "trade with your locals," the blockchain data clearly shows that there is not a single transaction from your publicly known wallet address to Binance, except for a couple of transactions to naim027's deposit address.

It's even more baffling that you would choose to send your payouts from the Whirlwind mixer to someone else's Binance deposit address, claiming that it's to save on fees. This doesn't quite add up, considering that internal transactions on the Binance platform are free of charge. So, why go through the hassle and potential risks of involving another person's deposit address when you could easily make the transfer within the Binance platform itself without incurring any fees? It's a puzzling choice, to say the least.

I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced by your statements thus far. You haven't presented any substantial evidence to support your story. Additionally, the fact that you also work as a casino representative and support staff, just like naim027, only further fuels the suspicion that you could be one and the same person. As LoyceV rightly pointed out, the odds of this coincidence are quite remarkable.

[LoyceV]

I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.

It will be difficult to verify any data, especially if Paypal is involved.

[JollyGood]

Keep the suspense for yourself and the remaining alt-accounts because people in this thread were expecting some sort of valid defence on your part but the more we read about your evasive posts it becomes less interesting to waste more time on the matter.

Writing walls of text in an attempt to try avoiding the obvious is something that will not help you.

So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy .

I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

[Poker Player]

The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

Based on screenshots?

It will be difficult to verify any data, especially if Paypal is involved.

And also if it is based on screenshots. If I recall correctly you said yourself that you can trust screenshots only if you trust the user.

...It's even more baffling that...

He can continue blah blah blahing but there is a scientific principle very suitable for these cases, Ockam's razor: the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

[Mahdirakib]

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I couldn't find out any connection between those users by observing their Bitcoin address transaction. Maybe they aren't connected. Otherwise, we have to look into some other facts in order to find the connection.

LDL is another one that smells very bad, because apart from the accusation of wanting to sell an account mentioned before, he also follows the same pattern: WO thread where he gets merits, pizza baking contest and local Bangladeshi forum.

I'm not sure whether 'LDL' is connected with 'naim027' or not. But he knows it very well that how to get merits easily. He had suggested other forum members to participate in Pizza bake-off contest to receive merits for rank up.

আপনারা দুজন পিজ্জা কম্পিটিশনে অংশগ্রহণ করলেই আল্লাহ ভরসা হিরো মেম্বার হয়ে যাবেন ইনশাআল্লাহ।

Translated into English:

If you both participate in the pizza competition, you will become hero members, God willing.

It was that strange thing which attracted my attention while the case with LDL. He has a couple deleted posts in Italian. Well, I thought anyone can speak several languages so it looks strange but not too strange.

But it is strange if a user make posts in multiple local language board and delete them. LDL has also made a post in the local board of Indonesia, and this post is deleted too.

I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

You aren't from Italy as you have mentioned this in your post, which gives a clear hint that you don't know the Italian language.

Disclaimer: ho scritto il post utilizzando un traduttore.

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Disclaimer: I wrote the post using a translator.

The question doesn't make sense. I got PayPal for my Bitcoin.

Really! The services of PayPal aren't available in Bangladesh yet. How both of you are dealing through PayPal despite being a citizen of Bangladesh?