'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection?

[Saheedu]

I never wanted to get involved in this issue, but after reading the previous thread in which he (naim07) was exposed, I realized that we are dealing with an expert when it comes to lying and deceiving others, and I am confident that the same thing will happen in this thread.

He's already made the BUY/SOLD logic, expecting that if no one else comes up with more evidence, the thread and accusation will be buried and forgotten.

I'm not very adept at data analysis, but I discovered some questionable posts of his.

Naim027 and I worked together for a long time, from 2020 to mid-2021, for a casino. I know him as Sil3ntS0ul. From our long working period together, we have had a good relationship with each other.

I recall one of your posts that I came across while reading through your post history to check if there was any connection between both accounts.

I know Zero. xD. I know many people here who use weird names as their usernames. I never asked them their real name because I love respecting their privacy. I did not build a good relation with anyone yet. So, It's weird to ask someone's real name when I didn't even talk with him. I won't say whether my username is my real name or not. I believe everyone loves to be anonymous on the internet forum.

How then do you prove that you truly Naim027 or should I say your alt account? does not belong to you.

The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.

Wait, are you saying that your alt Naim027 paid for a coin that you didn't receive? since, according to the information on blockchair, you received your third payment on Jan 28, 2023, 12:51 PM I understand it took some time to get confirmed, and you then proceeded to sell (according to you) at Jan 28, 2023, 3:10 PM. Before you received your weekly paymetn you sold it out,right?
 
What are your comments on this? And where did you two meet to discuss the buying and selling nonsense you devised?


I saw this and guess what I found?

Crypt0S0ul

Hehehe. Savage Bunny

Savage Gachapin!

Hehehe... Savage Gachapin.

He he he. Savage Poker Player!

Hehe, Savage yahoo!

naim027

Hahaha, That's Savage.

Hehehe. Savage.

Savage CoinmarketCap

Why are you guys so savage?

Why so savage?

Do these sound familiar to you?

If you take a look at the time Naim027 addresses receives the coins from whirlwind reserve address it's only few hours from the time Hhampuz, the campaign manager makes his payment announcement.

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[Apocollapse]

I think there's no need to add more evidence because he will learn from the similarity you guys have posted in this thread to make him stay undetected with his new alts. Remember he's not a ban evader because all of his accounts are still exist, so it's definitely allowed for him to create new accounts as much as he want.

He will keep lying, see he's only mention he own four accounts e.g. naim027, Dic3l0v3r, CryptoS0ul, AnotherAlt.

While you guys can try to match up to much data with other accounts, The truth is those are not my alts.

Yes, I own all four accounts. I was Evading a ban.

[Poker Player]

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

The rest is circumstantial evidence that adds up and added to his manipulative capacity it almost deserves a negative tag, but this is definitive for me.

If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

[Rikafip]

The proofs provided by @Mahdirakib are enough for the named member to get banned from the forum again. If not then again this member would come out with an alt account. My understanding is that a banned member is not supposed to open up a new account.

Naim027 is not banned at the moment so even if its proven that John Abraham is his alt account (which I think most likely is the case here), its not a case of ban evading, therefore no ban for John Abraham.

Then again, he doesn't even need to get banned as few negative feedbacks will make his account useless for its intended purpose which is earning money via signature campaign.

[JollyGood]

Now, is an apt time to state (what I have written several times in this forum in the past) that stranger things have happened.

Therefore, how strange would it be for anybody including myself to look at your posting history including the fact you have made a total of just 7 posts using this Saheedu account which was registered on 4th June 2023. Clearly you are not new to this forum as the way know certain things makes it obvious therefore you have the hallmarks of being an alt-account yourself.

Granted you could completely innocent of the example being presented but nevertheless here it is:

Just as naim027 and some of his alt-accounts used to do you too have posted anti-naim027 comments after some of his alt-accounts were exposed and you have also have posted in the Bangladesh board therefore what would stop a compulsive liar and cheat and ban evader such as naim027 using one of his recently created unconnected alt-accounts such as "Saheedu" (which was to be used for farming purposes) to overtly attack his now discovered John Abraham alt-account in the hope of getting a few merits along the way as well as being remembered for being anti-naim027? That would throw others off the scent of Saheedu being a possible naim027 alt-account and it would mean a small sacrifice for him after he has given up on the John Abraham alt-account he can try to rank up another alt-account, it is possible right? Once again, I am not saying that is the case here it is just an example.

As I said, stranger things have happened in this forum and for that reason at least for now your post does not mean much and I definitely do not trust you until your motives and intentions are clearly understood.

I'm not very adept at data analysis, but I discovered some questionable posts of his.

[lovesmayfamilis]

After reading some of the history of his posts, you can understand that the John Abraham account must have its own active alt, or else assume that he read the forum without going to it for a long time before he decided to log in.
In the history of April Fools' Contests, he claims to have witnessed the prank while he was away from the forum. But there is the participation of Naim027.
John Abraham remembers in great detail even the order of The Sceptical Chymist's answer, which indicates a very active participation.
If you check, the appearance on the forum of John Abraham was on June 26, 2022, which does not coincide with his participation in the April Fool's drawing.


Please follow carefully:

Most of the forum users knew something was coming from theymos. Last year The Sceptical Chymist was The Pharmacist, and I remember he wrote the first reply when theymos came up with the IQ score thing. Back then, I wouldn't say I liked how The Sceptical Chymist asked in which timezone theymos lived in because I didn't get the term he used. Last year, almost 75% of forum users were fooled because of the IQ score prank.

But if you compare it to this year. I won't say it was successful enough. People started creating threads on 30th March (Like seriously?) about the April fool. So, most forum members already know something is coming up. If you didn't get fooled, It's okay; let others. But, People are creating more and more topic and letting everyone knows, "Guys, it's April Fool, Guys, It's April Fools." WTF man? What is the point? Catching some merits? I would say we ruined it.

Biiiiiiiiiiiitch, what time zone do you live in?  It's too early for this shits.  I'm going to sell my account if this nonsense keeps up--anybody interested?

You got it. Look at the time zone theymos created this thread. This is April fools.
Let me tell everyone that, This is April Fools
If this is not, This is going to be a failure this year 2022. This event is going to be awarded in the Next Bitcointalk Community awards.


@theymos, Whenever I post, If I see another post warning while I was typing, It gives me a new trivia and my scores fall due to this. Do you believe this is my fault?

Does any reader of the forum remember the details of the answers to other people's posts?


naim027 you screwed up

[Poker Player]

Therefore, how strange would it be for anybody including myself to look at your posting history including the fact you have made a total of just 7 posts using this Saheedu account which was registered on 4th June 2023. Clearly you are not new to this forum as the way know certain things makes it obvious therefore you have the hallmarks of being an alt-account yourself.

Granted you could completely innocent of the example being presented but nevertheless here it is:

Just as naim027 and some of his alt-accounts used to do you too have posted anti-naim027 comments after some of his alt-accounts were exposed and you have also have posted in the Bangladesh board therefore what would stop a compulsive liar and cheat and ban evader such as naim027 using one of his recently created unconnected alt-accounts such as "Saheedu" (which was to be used for farming purposes) to overtly attack his now discovered John Abraham alt-account in the hope of getting a few merits along the way as well as being remembered for being anti-naim027? That would throw others off the scent of Saheedu being a possible naim027 alt-account and it would mean a small sacrifice for him after he has given up on the John Abraham alt-account he can try to rank up another alt-account, it is possible right?

Before, I though for a second about a possibility like the one you have mentioned. I think you have described it perfectly and, answering your question, I think it is not only possible, but quite likely.

Whenever I read sentences like this one:

I never wanted to get involved in this issue, but ...

I think of that wise phrase of the ancient Romans "Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta."

[JollyGood]

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

The rest is circumstantial evidence that adds up and added to his manipulative capacity it almost deserves a negative tag, but this is definitive for me.

If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

I think he will avoid putting forward a case simple because his every letter and word typed will be examined and evaluated to assess if matches any other account. His John Abraham account was active after I made my post stating intentions to tag but wanted to read his response to the questions. If naim027 does not reply soon with an explanation that proves me wrong, his John Abraham account will be tagged too.

naim027 you screwed up

After every interval of several months, naim027 does seem to get some sort if unexpected attention on himself therefore he has himself to blame for the demise of his alt-accounts. As long as these accounts keep getting tagged when they are discovered it means something rather than nothing for those of us who witnessed the ban evasion, cheating, greed, compulsive lying, manipulation and a lot more conducted by naim027 and his alt-accounts.

Before, I though for a second about a possibility like the one you have mentioned. I think you have described it perfectly and, answering your question, I think it is not only possible, but quite likely.

Whenever I read sentences like this one:

I never wanted to get involved in this issue, but ...

I think of that wise phrase of the ancient Romans "Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta."

The fact of the matter is naim027 has been such a manipulative force entailing bad and negativity in this forum that it has caused us to look for the minutest of details in places we would not normally look and that is why there is a shadow hanging over the Saheedu account. Yet had Saheedu remained out of this thread he would have remained anonymous. Unfortunately for him his questionable post and subsequent questions as a result of it have now made him an account to watch too.

[John Abraham]

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?

I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy. In fact, all your questions triggered my privacy. I am sending him BTC for USD. I saw you have posted a couple of times on their ANN. If you are a player on that platform, you might have seen me there.

What evidence will you submit to back up this claim?

I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.

In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.

[JollyGood]

You were advised I would be tagging your account either neutral or negative but would allow you to post a reply to address the points. What you wrote back was not worth writing. To a degree it was almost typical naim027 style posting when he was not elaborating when information was requested. Where was the evidence in your post that was defending your position? You provided none.

I have decided to give your "John Abraham" account a negative tag however if you come back with something more believable I will consider removing/revising my feedback and until/unless then the red tag will stay.

What evidence will you submit to back up this claim?

I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.

In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.

[John Abraham]

JollyGood, I think you are overreacting. I don't think I did not give you enough evidence. You seem too quick to tag my account without even investigating the information I left for the questions you asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285347.msg55483764#msg55483764
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276629.msg55216923#msg55216923

This was me when I was working with the company. I feel lucky that I used my name a couple of times while I was handling their representative account. Feel free to ask them at the time when, I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul worked there. After this response, I will not deal with you anymore. The community will judge your negative feedback.

More clearly, cratoon account represents paradice and I was in charge of the account when I worked for them from 2020 to mid-2021

[Mahdirakib]

I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy. In fact, all your questions triggered my privacy. I am sending him BTC for USD.

So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy .

আর আপনি দয়া করে পোষ্ট এর তারিখ দেখে সেটার রিপ্লাই দিবেন। যে পোষ্ট দুটি কোট করেছেন তা ২০১৮ সালের পোষ্ট। যারা পোষ্ট করেছে তারা আর একটিভ আছে বলে মনে হয় না। আপনি নিজেই তো উইকিপিডিয়া থেকে পোষ্ট কপি করে মেরে দিচ্ছিলেন। এরকম ইউজলেস ১ লাইনের পোষ্ট দেখলে পোষ্ট এ রিপোর্ট মেরে দিবেন। যদি একটিভ থাকে, সেক্ষেত্রে বুঝিয়ে বলতে পারেন।

I hope I haven't broken your privacy . USD isn't the usable currency in Bangladesh. How are you receiving USD from him and what are you doing with the USD?

I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.

We are talking about the transaction of 2023. How have you communicated with 'naim027' recently if you aren't a staff of Paradice now? You have no evidence to post here as you are creating a fake story.

I saw you have posted a couple of times on their ANN. If you are a player on that platform, you might have seen me there.

I can't recall whether I have seen 'Agent_John' on the site or not. I haven't made any deposit on Paradice after my first withdrawal experience.

[decodx]

More clearly, cratoon account represents paradice and I was in charge of the account when I worked for them from 2020 to mid-2021

WTF, dude?! You can't really be that stupid?


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Cratoon&from=naim027


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Cratoon&from=AnotherAlt


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Cratoon&to=Crypt0S0ul


https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Cratoon&to=John%20Abraham

[_BlackStar]

In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.

If you can prove that - then it's very likely that the accusations about you in this thread can going in different direction. But you don't even prove anything here other than just pretending that the two of you are partners on one of the sites, that's too convoluted for your defense. I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.

So why don't you prove it?
Don't say it's also private - this doesn't seem like the right time.

[Poker Player]

Well, seeing that the explanations he has given are garbage and that he has not answered the central point I was asking before:

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

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If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

I proceed to leave negative feedback to naim027, I mean, John Abraham.

[KingsDen]

I decided to return here to see the version of story that naim027 aka John Abraham will come up with. I expected a story line that will throw people on this thread into serious confusion. But he failed me and came up with the old colleagues and business partner story.
I am not happy that you keep damaging so many beautiful accounts, while some newbies are just praying for 1 merit.
However, no matter how beautiful an account appears to be, if the personality behind it is a cheat or a liar, it doesn't add anything good to the community.

The proofs provided by @Mahdirakib are enough for the named member to get banned from the forum again. If not then again this member would come out with an alt account. My understanding is that a banned member is not supposed to open up a new account.

Naim027 is not banned at the moment so even if its proven that John Abraham is his alt account (which I think most likely is the case here), its not a case of ban evading, therefore no ban for John Abraham.

Then again, he doesn't even need to get banned as few negative feedbacks will make his account useless for its intended purpose which is earning money via signature campaign.

Some situations doesn't need ban. And moderators also need to be relieved of their responsibilities in some cases and in order not to add to the statistics of banned accounts as lamented by Igebotz.
Negative feedbacks are natural killers of accounts which only earns from signature campaign.
When naim027 was tagged, he was active for a while and slowly died off, same with AnotherAlt and cryptoSoul.

[FatFork]

Well, seeing that the explanations he has given are garbage and that he has not answered the central point I was asking before:

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

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If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

I proceed to leave negative feedback to naim027, I mean, John Abraham.

Exactly. His explanation is just pure nonsense.

Pay close attention now:

John Abraham (address: bc1q3652jcryqgy0l38unay7tx69h56a865z6t8ndx) is sending coins to naim027's address: bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa, which belongs to a Binance wallet (Binance exchange deposit address unique to each user), claiming that he was selling his BTC for USD. Using the same explanation, he withdraws coins from the Whirlwind mixer to the same Binance deposit address.

Now, let's consider his previous statements:

I wouldn't say I like centralized exchanges. Still, I am using Binance and have compromised my privacy. I don't have other options to trade with my locals. There are a few numbers of platforms where I can find my locals and deal with them.

Of course, I don't want to trade with an unknown person who can run away with my money. I can also use this forum to trade, but I don't see any of my locals providing the service I am looking for. So, it's kind of I am forced to use their platform.

I am unsure what is happening with them because I am not from the USA. I have less than $30 in my Binance exchange wallet, which you can consider a leftover.

I checked the user agreement of the most trusted (?) Exchange that I use as well. It's Binance. I use this platform to trade with my locals because I do not have other options to trade with locals.

In my country, almost 90% of people use Binance to buy and sell Bitcoin and other crypto. Because of that, we had to compromise privacy. Bitcoin users are supposed to be anonymous. But, when it comes to cash out and buying bitcoins, you have fewer choices. In fact sometimes no choices other than KYC-ed Exchanges.

Some Non-KYC exchanges offer BTC to USDT and others as well. But, they do not support local fiat money. If you want to buy bitcoin with USDT, You can do it from Non-KYC-ed exchanges. But, When it comes to buying/selling bitcoin for fiat. KYC-ed exchanges are the only choice.

So, he's all about using Binance exchange "to trade with his locals" and claims he's "forced to use their platform." Alright, fair enough. But here's the head-scratcher: instead of using his own Binance deposit address like a normal person, he decides to send coins to naim027's address. Where is the logic in that? Why would he use someone else's deposit address when he claims to use Binance exchange and has his own account?

Ah, but of course! There's a perfectly logical explanation for all this madness. You see, Binance doesn't allow users to change their assigned deposit address. So, poor John here is "forced" to use the same address as his long-forgotten alter ego, naim027. It's one of those classic cases where circumstances just don't leave you with much choice. Mystery solved!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285347.msg55483764#msg55483764
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276629.msg55216923#msg55216923

This was me when I was working with the company. I feel lucky that I used my name a couple of times while I was handling their representative account. Feel free to ask them at the time when, I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul worked there. After this response, I will not deal with you anymore. The community will judge your negative feedback.

This part of the story makes some sense. I can accept it.

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Cratoon&to=John%20Abraham

We all send merits to accounts or people we know they are close to us. Whoever is behind the account now, they are or were co-workers. I don't see anything wrong if other co-worker decides to send merits.
Can we have some words from the person who is behind the account Cratoon now?

I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.

@John Abraham, do you have something to show us as suggested by _BlackStar?

[Poker Player]

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I am getting lost here. Are suggesting all those are alts managed by naim027 or related to him?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3511520 - LDL

This name rang a bell. Turns out he was involved in an account sale allegation:

topman21 scam my 40$ help me

Let's see how curious.

What's happening in the forum? Every day you wake up and see new drama on the reputation board. We end up fighting each other and criticizing others for their opinion. At first, It looked like LDL was guilty of doing something. There is no proof that Topman is LDL. I am curious how OP contacted Topman. How did you find his telegram? Did you give them his telegram handle in the forum PM? If so, Share a screenshot, please. I have some questions.
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I feel OP is part of the scamming group and trying to ruin someone's account. 

It seems that our friend John Abraham, I mean naim027 (and I don't know if surely also LDL and many others) was very angry and very nervous when LDL's reputation was attacked. Right after I wrote this:

I see that LDL has a neutral tag already and in my case, if I tag him my tag will be negative, being alt from someone we can't trust, topman21. But as I don't have it clear, I don't act.

He wrote this:

... Look at his posts. Do you believe he is a newbie in this forum? Someone is a newbie who wants to buy a Forum account from Topman21, which has been inactive for almost two months. I am curious how OP knows that Topman21 was selling a Full member account when Topman did not create any sell thread. Topman was not in the forum for the last two months; how did you get his telegram account? Let's say you got his telegram from his bounty post. @OP, How did you know he is selling a full member account? Don't tell fairy tales!
Looking forward to hearing from you...

I find it very hard to believe that he alone can handle so many alts, but they could all be part of a farm.

[Poker Player]

I also do not rule out that this could be a completely different farm, not related to naim027 himself,

I believe that at least LDL does relate to naim027 because of the quotes I put in my previous comment.

I edit to add:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3512713 - Patrol69
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3487522 - Dubaian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3381835 - Shaha98
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3511520 - LDL
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417917 - Dimitri94
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3527029 - Bitcoin_people
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3506304 - Learn Bitcoin

My goodness Ratimov, I am looking closely at the profiles you have posted and everything smells bad, very bad.

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

LDL is another one that smells very bad, because apart from the accusation of wanting to sell an account mentioned before, he also follows the same pattern: WO thread where he gets merits, pizza baking contest and local Bangladeshi forum.

Shaha98 has a negative tag by yahoo62278 for being a cheater with multiple alts.

Dubaian was banned for plagiarism.

The only one that seems cleaner is Patrol69.

I'm getting the urge to start leaving feedback aggressively.