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Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I am not a doctor and I do not know how gambling addicts are treated. Even if I know some, I can not be better like those that are specialized in the area.

You will let him know how foolish he is. But not telling him he is foolish and not telling him what can make him angry. You can all see what gambling does to addicts. I will try to use that to convince him with true life stories of some addicts.

I believe that these arguments and ways to communicate should be discussed by a professional in this sector.
Personally I have no idea if some topics could istigate more or have a detrimental effect on a gambler.

In any case, what I've seen have right for an approach with a gambler is:
make people reflect on the real statistics/probability of events.
ask an inveterate bettor to list his income and expenses and from there understand if this activity is worth it

This decision unfortunately is on the gambler himself. If he is determined to change, he can change for himself.
But of course, as much as possible he needs support from his immediate family as much as possible.
As he can easily divert himself to the old gambling life, he always need assistance from somebody close to him.
Also, he needs to find a motivation on why he can keep such lifestyle for long-term goal in life.

I would just show him that it is impossible to win against the casinos in the long run. I would explain him the house edge, the odds and the math behind it. Casinos give themselves this mathematical advantage over the player and that's how they make money and that's also how the players lose money. I would give him examples too. I would even code him a basic dice game, give him some virtual money (which has no real value), and ask him to beat this game. Sooner or later he will always run out of balance and hopefully he will understand why he can't win. I mean he can win if he plays LESS and quits right away but since we are talking about gambling addicts here, they are not able to play "less". (or quit)

Anybody who understands math and how casinos work can see why he/she can't win in the long run.

I'm sure it exists, it's just that there is nothing famous about that clinic. or let's just say that the majority of workers there are psychiatrists. I think the alternative to gambling addiction is to go to a psychiatrist. Addicts usually always have psychological disorders, they have to fix it to truly become a good person again and recover their normal thinking. At least you can consult there until you are truly cured of addiction. This addiction can only be corrected through psychological treatment or there is no medical drug that can treat it.

It's not easy to quit gambling as an addict. Is just like quitting smoking as a smoker. That is why is better not to become a gambling addict. Quitting gambling as an addict needs an extra job and strong determination by anyone involved.

Just let him to gamble everything he have, when he already lost everything, it's high likely he will realized how stupid he's and want to completely stop gambling. There's no way to convince or discuss about him to stop gamble because you said he will counter all of your arguments, so he try to make you to never win.

That's similar to prove transwomen if them was a male, you will never ever to win against them. :P

It's difficult to be an expert and rehabilitation doctor for people who are addicted to gambling because I'm not an expert either so I can't give them my opinion and arguments about the dangers of gambling addiction, even though they can reply with arguments that they will win one day, maybe I will say that it is better to gamble with a healthy mindset, for example, that is, gambling is enough just to have fun and make gambling as entertainment.

Gambling is not a place to make money so use the right mindset when gambling, play within reasonable limits and under good control, without good control it will not be good in the end which can make a gambler become addicted to gambling, I will definitely remind anyone who is a gambler that the dealer will always win whenever we try to fight him.  ;D

They should be an interpersonal relationship between both the addict and the therapist. If such relationship is not established, they won't be any change in the addicts plan of stopping gambling. And for a gambler to visit the clinic he has already concluded within himself to change his bad habit. So, treating him won't be that difficult. Provided that the doctor isn't ushering advice to him, that's where the argument begin to erupt. It's more of a discussion section. Where the both people will begin to like each others presence. Then whatever the therapist says would register in the addict's brain. Then he'll go home to think about it. We all know that our friends have impact in us, they can influence us, that's how therapy works. They tend to create a friendship with the addict and prove to him they're not in his life to tell him gambling is wrong or right. The aim is opening up to him that he could actually gamble at a lesser rate each day without having any trouble, thereby saving himself some funds.

Some gamblers addicts are not aware and don't know how to start changing themselves cause it might be easy to say "Just stop gambling" For them there would always be an urge to gamble despite having already a conflict with their financial status as well as their mental and emotional health. For sure there's a procedure on how they handle people with addictions, once they are guided the decision is still up to them after the rehabilitation. Some after the rehabilitation would eventually come back to a gambling habit so taking a medication they would just consider it as a waste of money as well as their time. That is why some would take years before realizing and spending a lot of time in rehabilitation centers that gambling doesn't do any good for them.

I'm not sure people want to come to a clinic just to treat their gambling addiction. If gambling is one of the things that makes him happy, then he will do it continuously. Until the point where he runs out of money to play, he will stop.
I have quite a lot of friends who used to like gambling and could be said to be addicts. Now the majority of them have also stopped themselves because the main reason is that they have run out of money to play. But when they get a salary from their work, it will be used to gamble again until it runs out & stops.

Is this really necessary  ;D ;D ;D ???

You can't save a soul that don't want to be saved.

Many gamblers are not successful in gambling and they know how to just give up or lower their gambling section and focus on something else, those who gets too attached are not thinking at all, they only believe in gambling like its a calling from God.

You are already lost if you believe that gambling is the way, you have condemned your will to take control and your will to resist, I believe that creator knew that some human are weak minded, that's why you can never see the holy books supporting gambling.

There is no need for any rehabilitation for people who are addicted to gambling, time will be their teacher, if they are lucky, they will open the eye that was closed for a long time very quickly, I know old men who regret wasting their lives away in gambling, thinking it's the way out of poverty.

It's a matter of unrealistic and realistic, if something is too good to be true, just accept that it's not safe. Be a realistic.

You're right, That's why there's a lot of clinics and professional that offers professional medical assistance because this kind of habit is most likely difficult to quit and it requires a lot of time, patience and perseverance. It allows both patient and doctors a strong determination in order to finally cure patient's addiction. Proven and tested that mental rehabilitation clinic is very helpful as long as the patient cooperates on the things that they need to do.

I think what you are referring here is hypnosis and hypnotherapy as way to rehabilitate those who have gambling addiction problem. This is not knew and this kind of treatment is popular too on some country since gambling addiction is just a mental problem like substance addiction. This kind of solution is the best to mind condition the gambling addict mind.

There’s a lot of this(https://www.cityhypnosis.com/hypnosis-for-gambling-problems/) service available online.

Is nothing groundbreaking here? I reckon this is how most people or professionals go about treating people with addiction in general. Except for the medicine part, now that I'm not exactly sure of. And as for asking answers to dumb questions by addicts, I don't think your average internet dude should be the guy you're asking from. And in the first place, a dude wanting to go into rehab would certainly not argue that he still wants to gamble more and instead would strive to change, and that mindset is usually more than enough with some added support from other people. And as for "forcing" people to go into rehab, I don't think gambling addiction is that far into the level of severity? Unlike drugs or something similar afaik.

Here's what I would do, think of this as a simulation that you should be able to imagine:

First, I will choose one of them with the criteria of an acute out-of-control gambling addict (A). Second, I have a representative of someone who is a controlled gambler, has a level of risk management, is professional and even has a strategy in determining betting probabilities (B).

These two people will be used as experimental examples by being given their own gambling games, the same capital and the same time to gamble in front of many people who are undergoing rehabilitation. With the scheme that I have prepared from the start, gambler (A) ultimately fails miserably while gambler (B) ultimately emerges as the winner.

That way, it will be easy for me to take the lead whenever they argue through stimulation. And that will be capital to be able to filter and ultimately give them the freedom to choose which gambling they will choose. Become an aggressive gambler who has lost everything or wants to change his gambling patterns like gambler (B) with strategy, self-control and risk management.

Ok, I think their arguments wouldn't be able to spread if we had techniques for delivering presentations.

You know that in an experimental method there is something called a pretest and posttest. If there are 1 or 2 people who choose to follow in the gambler's footsteps (B), it means that our technique can be said to be successful. 8)

Some might bring up the fact that gambling is the only means they can come out of depression. They will claim that due to boredom and other problems they need gambling to be entertained and have fun. My response will be that gambling might not be able to cure depression. Depression can be handled by dealing with the root cause and not focusing on ways to reduce the effect.

Some will also argue that their gambling habits are hereditary, so it will be difficult for them to control. They will tell you that their father and even close relatives like uncles are gamblers. My argument might be that the belief that gambling addiction can be transferred through genes has not been scientifically proven. I know there have been such studies on this argument, but there has been a general conclusion that it is true.      

Can you even call that a mental rehab with that kind of methodology? It sounds more like a gambling masterclass. I bet the "patient" would not even make an argument against not having a gaming system. He'll go back to the drawing board and figure out a better strategy after all those "rehab sessions" then continue to gamble.

The first thing I will say is that the idea of mental rehabilitation clinic for gambling addiction is something that is very useful and of course this is service that can help anyone who wants to recover from gambling addiction.
But the question is whether the government will provide it because this will be much more difficult to cure, unlike other addictions such as drug addiction, where obviously there are various therapies and also medication to stop it.
Overall gambling addiction will be related to person mentality and thoughts, it may be cured but it does not guarantee that it will not return, on average gambling addicts cannot really stop and all they can do is reduce.

I don't know what will be given to addicts to be able to heal their mentality so that they can be free from expectations of gambling, and of course their mindset cannot be predicted unless they themselves begin to have the awareness that the gambling they do must really be reduced significantly.
Seeing how gambling addicts have their mindset and psychology will of course make even doctors or experts experience various difficulties in changing the gambling addict mindset and provide suggestions that gambling is not always good to do excessively.

Not sure if I understand the approach correctly, we should try to focus the time and energy of the patient on something new completely with the goal to make money? I don't think it's a good approach to argue with addicts, because they will only use logic of it helps them. In case the logic is against them, they will just disregard it. My first argument is going to be that gambling is not here to make us rich. The majority of gamblers are not going to succeed in getting rich through gambling. Basic mathematics are going to speak against any possible counter argument. It takes a large number of small losses to be able to payout one large win for the casino. Also if the patient committed himself to therapy already he must realise that he has a problem and wants to turn his life around.

To help someone steer clear of gambling, I'd highlight the need for a smart gaming plan rather than just relying on optimism. I'd talk about setting practical goals, consider the odds, and suggest trying out other stuff like hobbies. Showing empathy and understanding is crucial to help them make positive changes. I get the appeal of hitting it big in gambling, but let's be real that relying on luck alone isn't a solid plan for long-term success. Successful gamblers have strategies, like a gaming system and risk management.  It's not about shutting down your dreams, but finding a better, more balanced way to reach them.

It's difficult if what they are looking for is not the truth but a justification for the bad activities they are doing. Likewise with gambling addicts, why is it difficult for them to be aware of their bad behavior...? Yes... because what he is looking for is a justification, and when someone tells the truth about gambling, a gambler will continue to try to avoid the truth and look for various reasons as a defense for his bad behavior in gambling. A gambling addict is one of the many people who is difficult to advise.

And I have a friend who is quite addicted to gambling. And because I saw that it was a loss for him and his family... I tried to advise him not to gamble too often, because you also have a family that you have to pay attention to and they really need your attention. And do you know what the answer was? then he answered "you're noisy, later if I win big, then the winnings will be given to the family and I will tell them to buy what they want." It's quite surprising, isn't it... And I fell silent at those words, and chose not to continue to advise him any further, because that would only trigger an argument.

I'm not a gambling expert, all I know is these professionals are checking the background and the root of addiction it's not about telling anything what to do but its more on rooting out the symptoms how it started, where it started, and when it started and addressing and giving out an alternative to root out the causes of addiction.
It's hard to argue with a compulsive gambler it's like you're arguing with the wind, if a gambler is not ready to change there's no better argument to make him stop gambling, you can only show compassion and ask him to try an alternative to gambling, some gamblers just need someone to listen to their problems when he can talk to you heart to heart he can open about up about gambling addiction, arguments will never work, it will make the gambler to defend why he gamble.

First of all, there's no such thing as gambling expert. Also, gambling addicts which are clinically diagnosed, are going to the same rehabilitation establishments as with people who have other addictions. We just cannot pretend to be an expert and assume we would be able to give 'advices' rather than standardized treatments. A particular behavior should be targeted here which is addiction in gambling therefore it should be eliminated and that won't be easily removed by having an alternative activity alone; it is a step by step procedure in order to make it efficient.
Changing one's viewpoint of gambling will be really helpful; practical goal, bankroll management, and exposure to gambling activity. But with continuing to gamble, I quite disagree; addiction is the bottomline here which means the individual is not only suffering from losses but also struggling to function on a daily basis due to his obsession for a particular habit. Improving his 'gaming set up' won't be a help since there would still be exposure to gambling still, not to mention that no matter how good your strategy is, winning won't always take place with certainty.

Then the patient is delusional. He is out his rationality to make such statements when in fact he has already lost tons of money on his pursuit for richness, consequently being on that clinic for that reason. For someone in delusional state, I'm not sure if arguments would help somehow, because arguments demand the person to be rational in order to absorb and reflect about them. When people behave like this, the tendency is pharmacology to take in action as last resource.

Personally, I don't like the idea, because I don't think pharmaceuticals cure mental diseases, it just works as a palliative, which also brings lots of negative side effects on long run.

But besides this measure, I think I could only give attention to the addicted individual, hearing what he has to say and trying to change his focus to another activities, in a slight hope he can get out of the delusional state of mind he finds himself.

To overcome gambling addiction, from my point of view only the addict himself can overcome it. If he really wants to get rid of his addiction, then he has to start with himself. It's very difficult to refute any arguments if he doesn't want to change and still wants to be an addict. No matter how good our sentences are, they will still be answered with their own arguments.

I am not a doctor or an expert in therapy to cure gambling addiction. But maybe I can only show that he is addicted to gambling and try to convince him that he is addicted to gambling and must try to cure his gambling addiction. But it looks like it won't be easy to convince him that he is addicted to gambling because he will definitely provide counter-arguments. Maybe the doctors treating him will give him a test to show that he has a gambling addiction.

Or maybe the doctors could show the consequences that he and the people closest to him experienced because he had gambled with so much money that he had spent it all. Doctors must be able to make the person admit that he is addicted to gambling even though he continues to deny it because, behind his denial, there is actually a dark side that he wants to hide from other people. If the doctors were able to touch the dark side, everything might open up, and the person would see that he was indeed addicted to gambling, and this person might admit it and regret it while crying full of regret.

My God, this is a difficult question. I am not a gambling expert so I might choose the wrong words. The encouragement to stop gambling might make it worse. :D I've seen gambling addicts but I don't think they are too deep to be put in rehabilitation, I mean they can still somehow stop playing for hours while doing their responsibilities.
What I actually suggested to one of them, a close friend was to stop playing slots but instead try sports gambling. So I guess that was not a cure, I was just trying to change his way of gambling. Because for me, sports gambling is not an addictive game. You bet once on your preferred game, and once it's done you rest for the day.
Anyway, for a gambling addict that might not be a good recommendation. As a specialist, the argument must be spot on that they will believe it's time to forget whatever bad habit they had. Giving them something else to do was a good choice. I mean, that's how I stopped my smoking addiction. I focused on work and keeping my kids healthy so I forgot about it for 5 years by now. Those who have experienced other addictions might be the ones who can help these guys. They just need something that would keep them busy so they will forget about gambling. I will also not recommend anything that has to do with the internet, that is where the spark could happen again.

Maybe this kind of addiction is still normal, he continues to gamble and stops when his money runs out. However, there are also those who have extreme addictions, gambling until they run out of money, but when the money runs out they continue to try to get the money by any means to gamble, such as selling valuables, robbing and even killing. So addiction should not be taken lightly, just have fun and when the money runs out then stop. The reality on the ground is that many people who are addicted to gambling act carelessly or even uncontrollably, as in the example above.

So addiction needs treatment, of course there are various types of treatment. However, many have managed to escape addiction thanks to the support of family and those closest to them. where I live there is no special doctor for addicts, so doctors are not the solution.

The doctor's job is not to convince the patient, the doctor has no goal of sitting with the patient in a debate about whether gambling is profitable or not. The doctor's role is to assess whether the person is able to stay without playing or not. The doctor doesn't need to keep talking about things like if the client has suffered a lot of injuries and that's why he should stop gambling. It is necessary for people to understand that even a person who makes profits from gambling is addicted to gambling. Therefore, what the doctor should ask the client should be the following:

Can Mr. X not play?

If you answer that he can do without playing, then the doctor should ask:

How long can Mr. X play?

Then the doctor confiscates all electronic devices that allow Mr. During this time, the doctor is observing Mr. X, he sees how Mr. gambling. For this reason, treatment will begin, which consists of confiscating everything that could make it easier for Mr. game addiction. In my country there are clinics for addicted people. That's why I know how they operate. It is a very long and very expensive treatment, the clinics charge money and also require that the relatives responsible for the addict always be present during the treatment, so that the addict feels less guilty and starts to look at the world in a normal way, start valuing more things in the real world and forget about games

Great topic for discussion!
Out of curiosity, I read on the Internet how gambling addiction is treated, and basically we are talking about working with psychologists and maximizing distraction from games by finding a new hobby.
I would take a different path and do a detailed analysis of the history of games with numbers of wins and losses and the general financial condition before and after. I think that the patient who ended up in the clinic will only have negative results both in terms of games and finances and this will be the main argument why he needs to stop playing, and then the work of psychologists to consolidate the result.

You really don't need to imagine this because there are legitimately rehabilitation clinics that treat specifically people whom struggle with gambling addiction.  I have absolutely no idea on how to go about helping them, what sort of questions to ask or how to approach any of that, but again thankfully there are already places like this that exist so thankfully they are there for those whom truly need it.

from my experience, changing someone who has become a gambling addict is a difficult thing, i once had an argument with a gambling addict and he was not after actual winnings but he wanted to return all the money he had lost, i even tried to make him aware again that his thinking was wrong.  In fact, almost 90% of gambling addicts end up bankrupt and in debt, so whatever they think while continuing to gamble is a trap created by their own minds, luckily the person i argued with at the beginning has stopped gambling, that's because he is currently sick, yes, there are many gambling addicts who end up stopping because of circumstances, but there are also many who stop gambling because of death.

I will create a program that will simulate the gambling game that the patient is playing. I will set the same chances of winning in it as in real gambling. And then I’ll show him what the deposit will be after 100 and 10,000, and even 1,000,000 games. In any case, if at a short distance you can get lucky and the deposit will increase. Then after 1,000,000 games it will decrease and the income will be negative. In this way we will see his potential future, and that there is no point in wasting his life on uncontrolled gambling.

But!
All this makes sense if the patient himself wants to be cured and stop playing. And he is not a convinced and absolutely complete gambler, for example, like Bestov (Google it if you don’t know who he is, I recommend an interview on the Meta TV channel).

Because of how addiction has risen a lot in other form of habits and gambling, Rehabilitation centers has been one investment that there has been a large call for its establishment in my country Nigeria.

Rehabiltation centers can be of really great help because many professional will be the staffs, and their experience in helping people will increase with the more patients that they have. Addictive gambling is a mental thing, so medications may not be needed expect in severe cases.

the will to change should start from the gambler himself. because actions from his family or close friends will only be futile if the gambler himself doesn't want to change.  if the gambler accepted the reality that he is already in the addiction state, then, that's the first step of this process. identifying that he has problem is a big step to alter his lifestyle. that's when he can truly ask for help from the people around him or from professionals addressing this kind of addiction.


i guess, one problem here is that if the gambler has no funds to enter into such institution. he will think twice of going in because of financial difficulties. unless, such center is free of charge and just accepts donation. that i think, is not yet common because of course, this will be a business for the owners. lucky if it is run by a charitable organisation. but knowing charity groups, they will dedicate their resources first to orphans, homeless and those who are in need rather than gambling addicts.

I think that professionals assigned here are much of psychologists and/or psychiatrists. But of course the former can't prescribe medicines and this is a good combination if there are two professionals that are on these field with these clinics. Whilst for the gamblers that are like to argue, I guess that it's normal as part of in denial process but sooner or later, they'll just be happy that they've been diagnosed and got helped from clinics like this.  But typically, this is going to cost money for the patients and if there are mobile clinics that are trying to help on this matter, they're legends. Or some organizations organize this clinic to help gambling addicts for free since no one's gonna help them spend money on themselves and cure anymore unless their family already gave up.

Helping someone steer out of gambling should be based on the level of the concerned person's engagement in gambling because I don't think it's necessary to try help someone who is very responsible in his gambling activities out of gambling but if the person is addicted to gambling, the first move to try help him out if gambling should be the trying to convince him that gambling addiction isn't good and he must stop it. It's only when a gambling addict have accepted to quit gambling that it'll be possible to help talk them out of it. Talking about being strategic, it's very important that a gambler becomes very strategic and logical in his gambling engagements in other to win in gambling and as a gambler that isn't strategic enough, it'll be difficult to win uun gambling.

I will firstly agree with them because not agreeing with them in the first instance will make them not wanting to give you the much needed attention that will be needed of them so they could learn and possibly make adjustments where necessary, agreeing with their kind of mindset does not mean you are giving in or supporting they continue gambling.

It's very possible someone could get Rich gambling if they are lucky at a particular time over a particular period so when you consider this you will agree with their idea a little but then you can aswell help them understand it's not the only way to getting rich as they can amass much fortune doing other jobs aswell getting involved in other paying occupation asides gambling and they can gradually build wealth, getting involved in business too is another way out and if possible suggest some good startups to them.

There is indeed a rehabilitation clinic when you get addict with drugs, and also in gambling. You can’t just tell the basic thing here and you must do everything professionally to help him/her to recover from that addiction. Its a multiple approach that only professionals knows how to implement it. Haven’t experience any rehabilitation yet but for sure every clinic have their own different approach to be more effective.

However, I don't think many gamblers come to clinics because most gamblers don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling before they spend a lot of money and are almost bankrupt.


I'm not sure what argument I would give because everyone's way of curing addiction is different, some people divert their attention to other activities, provide motivation to stop gambling, or just let it go until they go bankrupt and can't gamble anymore. I think we need to explore the character of the gambler to know how to deal with him

It doesn't work like that. I could give all the arguments in the world, but if i am not a close friend or relative in their life that they care for, they wouldn't listen. Not even if i would win every argument. People don't deal well with logic and even in here, if i try to argue that martingale doesn't mathematically work, people think it does in short term because they had luck with it. If i mention that it's only because they are risking more money, it doesn't even seem to register with them. So reasoning isn't the way out of addiciton, want and need comes from the addict himself.

If i would be a close group of friends for example, we could do an intervention, telling that we are worried and tell the addict how their actions affect on us. But that's the only thing we can do. If someone want's to gamble no matter what there's no stopping them. Only they can take the first step.

The rehabilitation clinic was essential for the gamblers who get addicted to the gambling after some loss.If the gambling was played without any expectation will not hurt them,because the expectation will hurt all the time.Even after the loss the gamblers should not expect of the winning from the gambling site,because the winning was possible in the gambling site for the people never expected any winning.The rehabilitation centre should be sponsored by the gambling site,because they should understand the loss of the gambling also reason for their gambling addiction,even though gambling loss was not permanent.

Another argument that a gambling addict patient may give is because he can afford it. He has the money so why stop now? That kind of reasoning will be difficult to deal with. Rich guys.
Maybe his family were the ones who put him in rehabilitation but he will keep on telling the therapists that it is a mistake that he was there because of his financial capabilities. I don't see any good argument with these type of people because what they are telling may be true. Unless we are on the same boat as him, we would never understand what he is going through. Money can control things and he might get out of the rehabilitation facility anytime he want and that will risk the addiction to grow.
For people like this there's limited options to make a solution on their problems.

You can take a horse to the river bank but you can’t force it to have a drink of water. Someone not willing to recognize his problems cannot go about solving it. The patient first needs to muster enough will to get better cause he’s going to need a lot during the journey.
It really is quite necessary to find a new hobby that would help give you something else to focus on. Might as well be a productive one that could add to one’s worth.

I would expect a child to give weak arguments like “getting rich in future only if you continue gambling” and “how his luck is just around the corner” but I also wouldn’t be surprised to hear such from adults.
I’ll say.. this topic is quite interesting and engaging too. Would want to read other people’s approach to this.

Well, if there was on my hands to try to rehabilitate someone who is addicted to gambling then I would start by try to talk about it is supposed to be an activity done for the sole purpose of fun and amusement; the patient then would likely talk about money and how gambling has changed the life of many people who are lucky enough at the right time. When the conversation comes to that point I would procede by starting to give small and comprehensible classes of laws of probability, but I would not get for a class filled with numbers and formulas which the patient would be very unlikely to understand. I would go with analogies and practical exercises for him to understand how small his chances are.
I have come to a personal conclusion that many of the people who become addicted to gambling actually underestimate the small size of their chances to change their life positively forever thanks to gambling, while being a gambler.

Also, I do not think using medicine for someone to help to overcome an addiction is bad, though I can understand people could feel afraid of using them at first.

As a concerned citizen, perhaps we should recognize the negative impacts of gambling in our lives if we overindulge and go beyond our limits. I am not a medical expert.  Gambling addicts usually don't follow what other people say and advise them. What is our purpose then or our arguments to them if they still don't obey what we will say, for the sake of their mental health and well-being? It will be useless. Since experts are the ones with the most knowledge in this area, I believe that professionals should have this conversation rather than basing it just on our personal opinions.
Honestly, it might take time and effort to overcome a gambling addiction since it is a process, and recovery should be approached with perseverance, patience, and a readiness to ask for assistance when necessary.

Yes there are rehabilitation clinics like that, that's basically how a rehab works dude, there's no pharmaceuticals involved there, it's supposed to be a sanctuary towards sobriety. I've been to one of those places before and I don't think they're doing any kind of drug administering there to cure someone of their addiction, most of the staff there are psychologists that helps with curing how the addict's mind works towards an addicting habit and most of the activities there are physical and laborious but at the same time shapes them into something new. You should go out more often OP and try to find these places because they're not that hard to find and there's a lot of them around, you might even be able to volunteer as a helper in some of them, you might change how you view addiction when you're with the people that's rehabilitated there.

If somebody is already addicted to gambling that he badly needs intervention from a professional, that's the biggest proof that whatever he believes in is a lie. If the patient says I need to continue to be able to find my luck. I will tell him to shut up and look at his miserable life chasing that elusive luck. It is easy to provide stats in terms of losers and winners in gambling. Out of a million gamblers, how many have actually grown rich because of it? A hard evidence for this argument is easy to find. You only have to look around your neighbors who are themselves gamblers but who remain unlucky.

Medical science knows how well such treatments work.  I don't study medical science so I don't know how to cure a gambling addict through treatment. Because gambling addiction is a problem with your thinking. Those who are addicted to gambling think that through gambling they will win huge and through that win they will become very rich.  Many times stories are heard of someone winning millions of dollars. And that thought makes a gambler more addicted.  So I really don't know if medical science will be successful in any way to cure this addiction

I think the psychiatrist is the right person to treat gambling addiction problems. as long as the mental disturbance has not reached a chronic stage. in the sense that addicts can still be invited to discuss and tell stories about their gambling experiences.
This requires people who are truly experts in their field. treating people with certain addictions still requires using sedative drugs. because usually there are anxiety or even worse effects for addicts if they don't carry out their gambling activities.

What can be done is to make addicts relax enough to think and talk about the profits they get and what losses they experience when gambling. This cannot only corner the addict into making mistakes, but we still have to balance the response that is considered positive from the addict so that he or she still feels comfortable and indeed they are not being pressured.

Healing will take time, any form of addiction cannot be eliminated instantly. they have to work gradually by building awareness within the addict itself.

This is interesting, if I were in the position of an expert in terms of overcoming gambling addiction, then maybe a very reasonable theory would be the main thing that I would emphasize to one of the patients who are victims of addiction, really emphasizing that gambling is a game of probability that does not have any element of success in it, one of the reasons is because a gambler cannot do any process except just praying "hopefully in this session I am lucky and win", then will success be achieved just by praying? Yes I understand that prayer is one of the keys to success too, but what you have to understand is that don't you never know the reason why you can win  and lose? You also realize that your victory is due to the luck that comes in the session you are doing.

Maybe we have agreed that winning depends on how lucky you are at the time, and let's talk about luck, trying to emphasize that doesn't luck have no consistent element in it? It's not luck if it always happens, and that means there is nothing to learn in the concept of luck which of course until whenever you will never know when you will win and this is a strong reason why you will never become a rich man just by gambling. I think the patient can digest this statement if all the theories explained really make sense, with  this I believe the realization will begin to appear and then I will advise him to fill the time with many activities in his daily life so that his mind can be distracted from gambling.

Perhaps a doctor will use different methods of healing so that there is no best way for each gambler because there are types of gamblers who are addicted to gambling. Gambling addiction may be a mental or mental problem because it concerns what a person thinks.

When someone has become addicted to gambling, different treatments will be needed according to the severity of that person's gambling addiction. So an experienced doctor will know what to do if he encounters a gambling addict. He can adapt to conditions and situations and determine his methods.

However, there will be discoveries of more effective ways for each type of gambling addiction. And with the current technological developments in the medical field, it really help doctors in curing people who are addicted to gambling.

This is called a crazy doctor wanting to cure a crazy person. if the doctor is already addicted to gambling, why do you even want to cure people who want to stop playing gambling. yes, I will definitely invite them to chat further about gambling and maybe talk a lot about determining a better strategy to get more profit. haha just kidding.  ;D
The only cure for gambling addiction is mental health and being able to think clearly to be able to think about what he has done from his gambling.
The doctor will definitely direct to meditation and so on as a matter of contemplation only. but still with calm medicine. because every gambler will definitely experience turmoil in their lust until they cannot control their brain to stop playing gambling.

The problem of gambling addict is money, so you need to give a solution how to make a good amount of money in easy way, if you can't find it, he will not change.

You get it wrong, a gambling specialist isn't a gambling addict, it's either someone who make money from gambling/know to beat the casino or someone who expert in self control. In this context, it means the doctor is someone who has a good self control, that's why his job is to handle a gambling addict.

It's questionable if the form of treatment is through argument and counterargument, if you're treating a gambling addict they do it through behavioral therapy, medications, and group help but I doubt if an argument can help gambling addicts, they will defend their addiction through reasoning and argument and because of their pride, they will beat you through their argument.
Gamblers are good when it comes to defending their passion so I doubt if gambling experts can even help cure or improve the condition of gambling addicts.
Instead of arguments, the professionals employ diagnosis and there are many parts of diagnosis when it comes to treating gamblers.

Check this article how professionals treat addiction to gambling.

Compulsive gambling (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/compulsive-gambling/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355184)

Friends! Thank you, I read all your answers. Let's continue the discussion. I would like to discuss such arguments.
1. Regarding pharmacology. I really think that pharmacology in the rehabilitation of gambling addicts is of secondary importance. For example, to correct depression. The main reason for gambling addiction, in my opinion, is a pathological worldview. They have over-valued ideas that are not true or do not fully correspond to them. And the cure will come when people themselves abandon these ideas. Not earlier.
2. The argument “Most people lose in the long run” and “it is impossible to make money in poker and sports betting.” Still, we know, perhaps, several dozen people who have made or are making money from gambling. But there are very, very few of them. The main mistake a person makes is that he hopes to get into this very small number.
     But how can a person prove that he will not be included in this number?

I hope one day, this kind of rehabilitation centre will be available for gambling addicts, and I must say that it will help so many of them. First, it is not a matter of drugs, so there can't be much related to it, but to make the investigation thorough about the underlying issues or causative, I believe that they might want to conduct some tests and drug tests will be part of them to know the cleanness of the person they are dealing with so that they will not be wasting their time on other things when it is partly caused by drugs. These people are professional and I believe they should know how to engage their patients more than a common person who is not in the field. They should know that there will be ugly behaviours and resistance.

We are talking about psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists and the related fields here, they will enter into your mind and get it fixed. It is not about them entertaining arguments alone and questions, they know the kind of mental treatment you need if you are such that will be adamant, this is the nature of their job and they would have seen worse than the tough persons, for this, I believe how to have their ways around it will never be an issue. Besides, it is a general thing that gamblers need money which is why most of us are doing it and the addicts will always want to use that as an excuse from going back to it. But with their right convictions with proofs, and with practical examples of the former people before the person in question and how they ended their lives without gambling success, such gamblers might have a rethink. I am not an expert in this field so do not let me go further, but emphatically, for a clinic like this to be established you should know that they are not there to play. They would have every answer to every issue and a higher record of success would be achieved.

You are not talking about a Mental rehabilitation clinic... As far as I can see from your opening post and this post you are talking about some "gambling school". A place where gamblers can learn more about gambling and about the ways of improving their winning odds.

The thing is that nobody can prove anything when it comes to gambling. It's on us to try it, as most of us are trying, but we don't know the result and we can't predict the outcome. In the end, just a few percent of people will make some profit and others will be on the losing side. There are no guarantees in gambling, so running this "gambling clinic or school" can give some people false hope that they can make money in gambling in the long run.

Firstly, when trying to help an addict free from gambling the stories of other people's gambling lifestyle can be used as a case study. It is not new that addiction in gambling has really destroyed the life of so many gamblers.  You will make the gambler to understand that he needs help to free from addiction , that winning is not about playing much games. Gambling is just just luck that winning doesn't determine how much games that are played.

You make the gambler understand that gambling result will always be unpredicted and their is no guarantee that in the future their will be a time when one will become rich from gambling,  so their is no need investing much in gambling.

The advice I will give to any patient in such a situation is to first get a job or a reliable source of income before considering gambling. Most people that end up in bad shape through gambling are those hoping to make a living solely from gambling. The moment gambling is seen as the only source of income, desperation will come in, fear and anxiety will follow it until the gambler is finally damaged psychologically when things does not work as planned.

As soon as the means of getting more money is fixed, losing gambling a few times will not be damaging to the health of a gambler, it will just be seen as the sacrifice to be paid for greater good.

Gamblers who visit a therapist need to accept their faults or they'll have a hard time with therapy. He'll be ready to share those lifestyles with the therapist to help the healing process. Healing an addict sometimes goes wrong due to the therapist's inability to effectively contribute responses that'll help the addict understand that the therapist has an idea of what he's going through. Hence a therapist who has no accurate idea of how addiction works may not handle the case of a gambler. Hence in such a clinic, If I'm to be the therapist, engaging with the addict and sending out meaning responses to help elongate the discussion duration between us would be my best tool in curing an addict. Giving him advises will only erupt an argument, which wouldn't be of great help to the addict. Becoming his friend is the most effective means of solving a problem gambler's troubles.

Have you seen one yourself? Some countries have high numbers of gamblers that ended up in the street, homeless and even some took their lives, some ended up in generational debt too, which makes their government to ban gambling, if mental rehab exists, I believe this countries will be the first to make use of it, but I can't find one.

Maybe that's because it's almost impossible to treat such patients? The mind is a powerful thing, you only stop doing something if you don't want to keep doing it, but if your mind is so fixed on the thing, you will always go back.

The only time I have helped an addict beat it's addiction was a year ago, but I still believe that he wanted to stop gambling addiction by himself, I just make him are reasons why gambling can't help everyone, in fact, most people will lose and very small numbers of people will win.

Most likely I start with his religion because if a person has some beliefs, he would be more likely to be attached to them and his faith is strong which could help him stay away from whatever things he is addicted whether it is gambling, drugs, alcohol, and sex. All of these have some bad results in the future if a person can't stop this while he is young and capable of doing so. After that, I will give him rational reasons to make him stop but if his ignorance is compounded, then it would be tough to convince him because he won't listen. Unless he came to you sincerely seeking some advice.

To get this straight, you are saying that because someone is losing more than winning in gambling means that person most likely doesn't have a system in place. You also say that someone who is a pathological gambler also has no system in place because the bad results allow for the conclusion that again no system was in place. But you say that if a person has a system in place, plays 18 hours slots with a slightly positive result is not a pathological gambler and you say that gamblers with a system in place can win as long-term gamblers or in other words, they can beat the house?

i am not an expert in this field so i do not have the ability to answer this question.

however, dealing with gambling addicts requires not only the efforts of the doctor who treats the patient, but also the patient. the doctor will only give words of suggestion and therapy, and the rest is up to the patient whether they want to recover or not. because no matter how professional the doctor is, if the patient insists that they will continue gambling it will only be in vain.

I don't always believe such claims, because now we have various ways we can entertain ourselves when boredom kicks in, what about having time with friends? What about movies? Netflix will take away your boredom, it works for me many times, you can also relax and read some books, there are people who also love playing video games too, it's not an excuse, you are already a gambling fan is why you think that gambling will solve your boredom for you.

Gambling is not hereditary, it's something that if you engage in, your children will follow your foot step thinking its something good, I've also seen gamblers who are parent as bad parents, they don't always have time for their offsprings, yet they influenced them with the wrong things.

To me it's just bad parenting, mind you, if we have to ask, how many families have you seen that are into gambling and doing so well? Hereditary to get your lives ruined by gambling or hereditary to be gods of gamblers? LMAO.

The old generation people who belong to the Muslim community had strongly portrait their younger generation not to get into the gambling at any point.So they had do the rules against the gambling,the rules are generally made by the man.The next generation people believe in the old generation people words by faith.This was the reason for the many people from the Muslim community doesn’t take part in the gambling at any profit was given to them.The reason was simple,because the have the discipline behaviour of following their religious book.Now the Muslim religion people never get profit or loss from the gambling site.

It does, because mental illness do exist too aside from other illnesses. The rate at which people have a mental illness is high, especially nowadays, so mental rehab clinics were actually famous right now. Not just majority but all workers there are psychiatrists.

The alternative to gambling is finding a fun and profitable activity. If there are gamblers who badly wants to visit a psychiatrist, that can mean that they may be addicted already in gambling. Addiction is related to mental. The other term for it must be psychological disorder. If you suffer from addiction I think it does not mean that you are a bad person already. It's just your thinking are only messed up for a while but don't worry as it can still be treated. I know there are drugs too that can treat a mental issue.

I am not a doctor but I am a health worker who handles patients every day and accompanies specialist doctors in their field.
The prescription that will be given to addicted gamblers is different from the prescription given to patients who experience diseases in health sciences.

If there is a gambling specialist doctor who treats addicted gamblers, it will be the opposite of the solution he will provide.
Most doctors will suggest why players don't care about the risks they will get. Next time be a responsible gambler. That's roughly what will be said. Lol

I am not a health practitioner,  but I think the best solution to help an addict is distracting him from his addiction.  Before This, we have to find out what attracts the patient to gambling,  is it for the money or for fun. We should be able to work with what ever response he gives. About distracting him, it can begin with giving him a similar activity  then with time he can advance to carrying out a total non related activity. If he does this well, with time he will no longer see gambling as a must affair. All this will ofcourse be backed with constant orientation and sensitization on the dangers of gambling addiction and the damage it has caused so far,  including the ones it might cause in future if not handled properly.  The response to this psychological treatment might be slow but at the end, it will yield positive results if followed duely.  Why trying hard to quit his addiction,  he would also learn how to gamble responsibly if he still wishes to gamble.

OP, I don't know how to help and addicted gambler talk more of an addict in a rehab and I am not a professional in gambling related problems, and I think it is a gamble specialist that can give you good answer to this your question.

The only thing that I can say is that an alternative means should be provided to engage the addict gambler that will make him forget about gambling. Maybe a game for fun or sport.

It's a good topic but it's also a difficult topic to talk about because the advice of doctors is more important in these things. I think group therapy can have a calming effect on these people. Being in a group that has the same impulses as us makes us feel that we are not alone. Also, the motivating words of the people there have a bigger impact on us. Medication would be the last thing I would recommend, because with medication we may get them out of gambling addiction, but we make them drug addicted.

I think that rehabilitation clinics exist for gamblers as well, in most developed countries. Gambling is just the same kind of addiction as any other addiction. It is a chemical Dysbalance in the brain which causes the unwanted behavioral symptoms. I do not think it is a good idea to remove the use of pharmacology because medicine could be required for some cases. Especially if the patient has a genetically predisposed brain condition which makes him become addicted very easily.

Listening to the patient is really not a wise decision. They do not really understand what they are doing or saying because they are sick. To them, the world seems completely different.

I think the doctors who work at rehabs know what is best.

The gambler who get addicted to the gambling will not accept the words of any people which includes their close friends and the family members including wife.After the certain game,the gambler should learn the game,playing the game all the time like the new gamblers will make you to loss the entire funds.The gambler who posses the loss again and again in the gambling site will face the big loss at the end of the day.So the gamblers should allow the time gap to rebreather and back to the game with the new strategies.If the gambler do the same strategy for the 24 hours period of time will leads to the loss.So the gambler keep changing the gambling strategy for few times in the same day alone leads to the good winnings in the game.This was the important strategy for the casino game in the gambling site.

Simply I would say, "why are you here in this situation?" it may be harsh or my approach will harsh but that's what I think is most effective, I will make him realized the hard part of his action, first I will make him realize why he is in this rehabilitation facility, it means that he is beyond help and his family can't help him anymore or possible his family don't want to help him, in that way he may reflect in his actions and start to develop a regret which could be use to say to him that gambling is the cause of all this happenings, if he will still persist and believe that gambling may bring him into wealth then I will still throw him a harsh reality of his action until he realized the terror of gambling and its effects, the terror of himself who he cannot control and the future awaits him if he still don't stop in gambling.

Sure, medical opinions from profesional doctors are supposed to be taken the most serious and those groups for people who are going through addictions like drug addictions, gambling addiction and even addiction to pornography, however I believe you are over-estimating the capabilities of those medicines to get people addicted to them and you are underestimating how effective their use can be to improve the cravings some people can have for gambling. In my opinion, if money or access to the medicine is not a problem, someone who is addicted to gambling should not completely cross out medicine as an option to their their condition, as least temporary. In the most of the cases those are not supposed to be taken for the rest of their life, only while the psycholical treatment lasts.

You know, I would like for more mental clinics to be available, specially in developing countries, where is sometimes the most needed.

I think the gambling addiction clinic should use a mix methods and support groups instead of just relying on gambling experts. Gambling experts give good advice but it is good to deal with the emotional and psychological reasons why someone has an addiction of gambling. They should try to set their minds. Because some times people do gambling for relaxation but when they lose money this affect them emotionally.
The gambler may say that they can control their gambling or stop whenever they want. But this is not an easy thing. It's also important to suggest finding other things to do instead of gambling to keep them busy and safe them from to much gambling. In this way they will busy their self to others game and then with the passage of time they will leave gambling.

That's right, this is a non-standard clinic. This is a special thought experiment. You say that classes at this clinic or school may give patients false hope. I would say it differently. You need to be objective and tell the truth. But the truth is that hope may not be false. Yes, it is difficult to get into the top 1% of profitable players, but in principle IT IS POSSIBLE. And until we have proven to the patient that, given his situation, it is impossible to become one of the profitable players in the game, he will continue to cling to it. But for the 1% of patients, the right treatment can and should be proof that they can become a profitable player.
    Maybe the patient came to us by chance? And is this the future Bob Voulgaris or another gambling genius? Why should we tell him lies?

It looks like he discovered himself, and he had nice starting help. I believe we can agree that the beginnings are the hardest.

Anything is possible, that's why we are gambling in the first place... but we need to know our possibilities & chances. I guess in principle it's possible to help some people discover their inner talents for some gambling games, but to me, it looks like a school of gambling. And my opinion about such schools would be the same as about paid poker courses and sports tipsters, most of them will just try to take money and will not help in anything. I guess the ones who can make a difference are pretty expensive and it's not easy to find them.

A very interesting topic to see in the gambling section. This for certain at all levels, no matter how you look at it.

But back to the point you have made. Yes this is a major misconception of how the subject on a gambler's fallacy truly works.
I believe this had been discussed several years ago on another topic if I am not mistaken, as this was the initial time I had heard of this term being used in a public space and in recent conversation.
Having rewatched a series on Netflix just before the new year the main focus was putting blame on the character's shortcomings in life and financially due to gambling addiction.
And they directly pointed it out as a sickness one endures and nothing more than that.
So yes, I would have to agree with all who do see it as a mental illness inwhich one would need to seek treatment inorder to cure themselves of this disease.

Yes but regarding the ease or difficulty of overcoming addiction it also depends on how severe the condition of addiction they are experiencing and also on the other hand in my opinion there really must be openness from patients to doctors or experts, they must really bring out all the problems and tell everything in detail so that doctors / experts can find formulas or drugs in any form that is in accordance with what is needed, because on the other hand it is not uncommon for me to see failures in overcoming gambling addiction simply because patients are not serious about getting well, meaning that they are not open with all the addiction problems they suffer so that doctors have difficulty finding the right formula which ultimately has no effect and does not produce changes.

So the point is that in terms of the healing process from gambling addiction, it really requires a good combination between the doctor / expert and the patient who wants to be treated, everything can run smoothly if they are open to each other and create good comfort in the healing process.

I think that if this idea were implemented in practice (and this is just a thought experiment), then such an institution would combine the features of a counseling center and at the same time a mental rehabilitation clinic. School... hardly a school, although it is true that patients have a lot to teach if. Certainly. They themselves will want to learn something.
      I don't like traditional clinics or traditional schools. Clinics essentially do not know how to treat, because they do not understand that this is not a disease, but a pathological worldview. A person has a number of ideas in his head, the incorrectness of which he does not realize, and these ideas push him to the social bottom.
     But before we treat someone, we need to understand who is in front of us. Is this person really not going to be able to make money in the long term, like 99.8% of players, or is this someone who can?
    In traditional clinics there is no treatment, they simply provide deprivation from the game. That is, they do it so that a person does not encounter the game in real life. At the same time, his pathological ideas do not go anywhere. And he can break at any moment. Is this treatment or rehabilitation?

Yes, that's clear because we know that there are various causes of someone experiencing a gambling addiction, so doctors at gambling addiction clinics must be able to find the right formula for each gambling addict. They may test one formula for one gambler and it may work but that doesn't guarantee it will work for other gambling addicts. That is why doctors have to look for other methods so that they can cure every gambling addict. Doctors must also be able to find the root of the problem that makes someone addicted to gambling so they can use appropriate methods to cure it. Emotional and psychological factors also need to be considered because there may be gambling addicts who think about gambling so deeply that they have difficulty eliminating thoughts about gambling. When they have found the root of the problem, doctors can encourage them to realize their mistakes so that they can rebuild themselves from scratch and start doing things that are not related to gambling.

It can be difficult to root it out with real statistics. It is not guaranteed that all professional gamblers will provide their expertise like a doctor. Risk management should evaluate the patient's activities in a holistic manner. Gambling is a platform where aggrieved gamblers do not want to listen to experts and indulge in their own addiction. A clinic doctor if treating a gambler will try to convince him psychologically first. If you are mentally healthy less chaos will be created.

 I agree that gambling success requires a well-designed gaming system with good risk management. The reality is very different for most. The odds are usually against the player in gambling. Probability and arithmetic are involved, not luck or a winning streak. Even the most advanced system cannot outperform a profit-driven one.

How about the "not lucky yet" ? Gambling is chance. Gambling for long-term revenue is like constructing a home on sand - unsustainable. There may be short-term successes, but the house always wins. Statistical reality, not pessimism.

However, gambling may be fun when done for fun rather than profit. Be moderate and treat it as a hobby with boundaries. This gives you the exhilaration without the financial risk. Alternatives include hobbies or pastimes that are equally exciting or engaging. Finding balance and understanding gambling is key.

I did try but failed to see how gambling addiction can be said to be a disease but If we’re speaking figuratively, It’s all good and I can understand that.

I’m also not entirely convinced on a gambling addiction being a mental illness. Reading up on if a gambling addiction could really be said to be a mental disorder and  one form of disorder stuck out. Obsessive compulsive disorder. Perhaps, with a mental disorder like that, an individual could gradually become an addict and would have to seek treatment for his disorder.

I do think a solid majority of gamblers all over that slid down the dark hole of addiction are the cause of their own misfortune.

That's true I have been seen a lots of addicted gambler who can't change their gambling addiction after backing from rehabilitation clinics. I just think that if the things is not comes from online it can't be remove from anyone's help like those we have rehabilitation also can't make a gambler to a healthy life.

Here a lot depends on what is meant by the word disease. I believe that at the moment there is no generally accepted definition of the disease. How does he understand something of his own by this? As for mental illness, things are even more complicated. Often, when defining a disease, many people refer to the “norm,” although this can also mean different things.
     I think that in the end it is not so important what to call the problem that a particular person has. What is much more important is how to get rid of it. Difficulties with “treatment” arise precisely because the patient still has hope of winning in his head. And only catastrophic losses, perhaps, convince him of the impossibility of making money on it.

As the gambling expert in the rehab center, I would stress how important it is to understand the patient's current position and how their gambling is hurting them. It's important to note that the idea of a good game system is hard to come by because the odds are always in favor of the house. To get the patient to change his mind, I would stress how unpredictable gambling results are and how likely it is that he will lose money in the long run. In addition, I would tell them to look into other activities that will make them happy and keep their mind off of their compulsive desire to bet. It's important to help the patient get a realistic picture of the risks of gambling and picture a healthier, more balanced life without depending on the random outcomes of games of chance.

Not really, statistics have a margin of error to account for that kind of variables, because they know that they can't get all of the people to sign up in the data gathering and even if they do, it takes time. You haven't done a survey in your life so you think that it's impossible to do a statistics. There's no guarantee in the professional gamblers because they're not qualified to do that, they're not licensed therapist unless they really are, they're gamblers and it's actually wrong for them to even do some kind of therapeutics without the approval of the real doctors so there's no way that it's legitimate to do just that, also it's not a physician that deals with this kind of things, it's psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers.

Rehab centers are known as drug addiction treatment centers and provide treatment to drug addicts.  However, no one can guarantee how effective rehab centers are for gambling addicts. A lot of mental torture is done in rehab centers so when someone comes out of rehab they are almost half crazy. Because of this, many people do not like rehab.  And I don't think rehab is necessary for gambling addicts. Strict family supervision is sufficient for this

Well, I also have the same thoughts and answers as you.
I said before that rehabilitation services will never be able to help gambling addict get out and recover completely from his addiction.
Of the many cases of gambling addiction that can really be cured and stopped completely, from what I know, no one can really stop gambling.
I believe that guide can reduce the intensity of gambling that is often done, but I still consider bullshit to the statement that an addict can recover and completely leave gambling.
They have lot of convenience and also the influence of every gambling activity, they can have very easy access to enter gambling so that getting someone to stop gambling is something that is very difficult, it can almost be said to be impossible.

The only way in my opinion is to reduce the intensity of gambling and by doing so, the negative impacts that can arise will be reduced.
They gamble with ambition, but when they can reduce the intensity of gambling, their goals and ambitions can change to just having fun.

First, acknowledge the patient's optimism of future success:

"Many patients share your desire for a great win. Consider gambling success statistics and reality. How the system works makes the odds against the gambler. Many professional gamblers have strict systems and methods. In addition to luck, they use extensive mathematical models, game mechanics knowledge, and emotional control. Given this, casual gamblers have little chance of long-term success."

After their counterarguments, I would say:

"Your faith in luck is natural, but let's examine gambling addiction. Continuous defeats from the 'just one more win' mentality sometimes eclipse prior and future wins. Why not focus on tasks that provide more consistent satisfaction? Building skills, relationships, or personal progress is more fulfilling than gambling."

I'm suggesting solutions to move the topic away from the patient's defensiveness.

A gambling addict is quite in a deeper stage of addiction compared to a drug addict. But they're close to being similar in form of the processes one may get addicted participating in these activities. Attaching a gambling addict to a rehab center meant for healing drug addicts, he could get better due to the absence of his gadgets. Within the period he's on rehab, he wouldn't gamble, it will easily allow the person to get used to some other activities like sports, research, reading and writing. Both addictions are mentally connected, hence the rehab can be useful in reviving a gambling addict, before he gets to therapy. Don't know about the torture, rehab should be a peaceful and quiet environment for addicted people.

Indeed, no one can guarantee that they won't return to the habits they did after leaving rehabilitation, only they themselves can change them so that they don't return to habits that are not good for themselves. If they want to change themselves for the better, of course they They have to try on their own and it would be better if their family members supported them, of course this would really help them, but if they themselves don't want to change for the better then even with rehabilitation they will keep doing it again.

Someone who is a gambling addict will certainly be more open when he feels confident that he can get rid of his bad habit.  When they visit a rehabilitation clinic, of course they will have a strong belief that they can change everything.  All problems must be disclosed to experts, in essence there should be no coercion from anyone to change themselves except on the basis of their own beliefs.

Aggrieved gamblers are mostly found of doing that which you did mentioned which is not wanting to listen to any one except they have been able to satisfy their desire or probably they have gotten to the point of unbearable loss then they would want to listen to only solution to their problem and anything outside a direct solution to what they are been aggrieved about they may not listen.

The engaged in selective listening ,they choose what they want to hear and if it's not that which they want to hear they will just not bother regardless of what is been told them. This makes helping some of these gamblers becomes more difficult than it should have because they just wan to get back at their loses by winning back from the casino more like a revenge gambling and that's the point where they even loose more because they no longer make rational decisions rather they just want to gamble to win.

We, of course, do not know and most likely will never know the statistics of successful treatment of patients addicted to gambling. But I not only admit that many are cured, but I have also observed it many times. But this is a question of whether there are former drug addicts or not. After all, it is enough for some kind of stress to occur in a person’s life and the person will fall ill with his disease again. I would call successful cases of healing “controlled addiction.” I first saw this term in an interview with Ingvar Kamprad, the founder of IKEA. He said he had “controlled alcoholism.”

If they become aware of their bad habits, they will try to stop them by visiting rehabilitation clinics and undergoing therapy sessions. They will also tell their problem to those closest to them that they are addicted to gambling, so they will ask for their help to support them in healing at a rehabilitation clinic. They know they must do it without coercion because it is for their own good. They only hope for support from the people closest to them so that they can undergo healing therapy well and cure their gambling addiction. If the people closest to them are willing to come and provide support to people who are addicted to gambling while still considering them as members of their family, it will make the person who is addicted to gambling feel happy because they have received support from the people closest to them. They will try their best to complete the healing therapy.

Actually, because of how prevalent and harmful those kinds of addictions can be in any society, I am sure you could get some stadistics or information on how much of a percentage of rehabilitated people get out clinics, you could get a glance of it searching on Google Scholar, for example, for both substances and behavioral dependences.
Out of curiosity, I have read people on the internet who are alledgely former users of hard drugs like crack and they say to have been clean for years, though, I do not doubt there are occasions when the craving could be felt.
I personally know someone who used to smoke much, however, managed to stay off tobacco for many years, he has confessed to me that there have been afternoon when he feels like smoking again, even after more than a decade.

It truly says something about of a former addicted person to opioids or crack could be feeling after some years...

I think that giving methematical therapy can be effective to help a gambling addict to have a paradigm shift, because even if a doctor gives drugs to an addict to suppress the urge of addiction, it'll still come down to letting the patient to understand the mathematical implications of gambling addiction. You hardly hear of a casino or bet company going bankrupt, infact I don't think that I've heard of any, so an addict should be made to understand that if there are more winnings gambling companies will be going bankrupt and folding up, but the industry is designed that there'll always be far more losers than winners. So the probability of beating the house and winning them is very low compared to when you're losing to them

I also have not heard one online gambling site go bankrupt unless they are an obvious scammy business that shuts down to steal the money that is stuck in the gambling sites. Well, it will be prison time for them.
Maybe that will help, telling them how low the percentage of winning is. Or, just making them remember their experiences on how rare they win whenever they gamble. Because that is one of the reasons why I don't gamble much. It's because of the occasional time that I win even though I am playing every day. The losses are more than the wins if I calculate it but that's only for casino games.
A gambling addict will always try to debate about this but if they could remember all the losses they had, then maybe that will make them realize that it should stop. It will not be easy to push that fact inside their head but maybe if it is done right then something will hit them that will make them realize it is the truth and it is actually based on their own exposure back when they are gambling. I doubt they can easily forget about all their losses.

The arguments here is very obvious. Any individual who seeks the help of a therapist for their gambling problems certain is struggling deeply with it and it has messed up a huge part of their lives. What I will do in this case is to point show him all the things in his life that has gone wrong which is his fault and then on the flip side show him real life examples of former gambling addicts whose life were messed up but came for therapy and then straightened up their lives and are doing well.  It is a very strong example that can foster and motivate change.

This is an idea from my head but there should be a program that would show gambling addicts their lives in 10 years if they keep gambling irresponsibly. It is futuristic enough for them to change.

This is for psychologists to answer for counselling but since you asked us about our personal opinion I think the first thing to do here is to remind the said gambler about the risk gambling may influence in our everyday life before telling him about how to become a responsible gambler to avoid possible problems that might come.

Yes, there are scammers, but don't generalise about the industry. The majority of sites are actual businesses. Bankruptcy? Big players rarely have issues. But the bottom line is that gambling is pleasure, not a quick fix. The chances are always against you. Winning? No guarantee, just a bonus

Remembering losses? It may benefit some. Addiction is more complicated. Behaviour and mindset matter as well as logic. Support, understanding, and possibly intervention are needed, not simply facts. Responsible gambling (setting boundaries and stopping) must be promoted. Balance, control, and enjoying the game are key. The house always wins long-term

A treatment without a use of pharmacology is more likely uses a hypnotherapy procedure.  This kind of of process is somehow found to be effective in treating gambling addicts.  According to the article[1]  through hypnotheraphy process, it can help the patient to identify what triggers the addiction.



As long as the patient wanted to get cured, I do not think the patient will resist the therapy.  Furthermore in hypnotherapy, the patient conscious state is in relaxation while the subconscious is open more open to suggestion [2].

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[1] https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/articles/gambling-addiction.html
[2] https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/content/industryfaqs.html?_gl

Like gambling addiction, admitting it is the first, critical step to treatment.  The secret element is family support, right? Imagine a personal cheer squad supporting you through this endeavour. Like karaoke with friends, they wave glow sticks and make you feel like a rockstar even if you can't sing. Such support might make the uphill climb more bearable.

Gambling is entertaining, too! The excitement of a tiny stake on a casual poker night or the tension of bingo are entertainment. Moderation, like taking a slice of cake without finishing it, is crucial. Having fun while being responsible can make gambling a fun activity. Hope you find balance and enjoy the game responsibly!

the reality of things will indeed give the perspective what will happen to the life of a gambling addict. yes, some type of visualisation will give them the clear picture of what may possibly happen to their lives if they will continue to follow the same path in the next years to come. maybe, present all the worst case scenarios that you can think of, so they know what they are about to face if they won't alter their lifestyle.


that technique, i believe is also one of the effective ways to combat addiction. and if the gambler is willing to undergo such therapy, he will find out that this route will possibly address his long time problem in gambling. he will thank the person who will introduce this to him to change for the betterment of his life in general.

uncovering the root cause, will properly address the situation as it will offer the route on how to really treat his addiction. because if they will only look at the surface, more then likely, the possibility of going back again and again to where he was will surely happen.

Such program would depend completely on speculations, as it's not a realistic to know how a person's mental problem would become in the coming years. It's like forecasting one's future. However, as a therapist, you'll achieve lots of changes if you show him examples of people who have struggled with addiction and later were healed. Those experiences help him to realize that his problem is solvable. Following up with strategic conversations that could make the person feel remorse for his mistake, helps in reviving back the real behavior of the person. This takes lots of time, friendship matters. People can change, but faster when a friend is interested in changing them. The addict needs help to get over his problem gambling, as a therapist it'll be nice, I pose as his close friend.

Pretty sure this won't work and would only make the gambler think either that it wasn't their fault they lost their games and the loss is only because the system was rigged instead of accepting the fact that it was their own hubris and ignorance that lead them to unnecessary losses, or that they didn't even need to take their treatments anymore cause they can game just fine. The manner at which these people who are addicted and admitted to rehabs are treated is to give them the notion that gambling isn't the endgame lifestyle or game of choice that they can do. There are other ways to earn, enjoy, and realize whatever you wanna do without subjecting yourself to massive problems and financial turmoil, which is why none of them are given the chance to get a hold of gambling sites or whatever as it would only lead to them having further issues with gambling.

Even if this is a controlled setup I still wouldn't advise it. The current treatments for gambling addiction are seriously working and it's more on the willingness of the afflicted to receive treatment that really makes it hard for people with gambling addiction to recover and less about the treatments themselves. So with that in mind making rehabilitation and recovery a more appealing aspect than sunk cost is what should be the main focus of people in the recovery and rehab sector.

Yes, family support is the most important thing in the gambling addiction healing process so that they can see that there is support from the family, and that will provide encouragement for them to undergo gambling addiction therapy. Perhaps it will speed up the process of healing his gambling addiction because of the support from his family so that the gambling addict will not feel too hard in going through the process of gambling addiction.

Yes, gambling really entertains many people, making them addicted to gambling. They already feel the pleasure of gambling, so it makes them return to gambling. However, if they don't accompany it by learning self-control, they could lose a lot of money and not be able to gamble responsibly. When they have experienced a gambling addiction, they have to undergo a process of healing their gambling addiction, which will depend on the wishes of each gambler.

Realistically, nothing will happen in the sense of achieving healing if the individual keeps insisting he could win if he tried gambling once more. There isn't cure when the person doesn't accept the fact he is ill. Family, friends, professionals can offer the most efficient support network to the addicted individual that it won't be sufficient. I even believe it could make things worse in this case, as the individual would feel inside a comfort zone, where he isn't confronted by anyone regards his delusional points of view, rather he only receives encouragements or reinforcements, instead of fair punishments for his distorted perceptions of what gambling can proportionate him. The person needs a "shock" to wake up to reality!

He needs to understand that if he doesn't change his mindset, he isn't going to have support from his beloved ones anymore, because everything in this life has limits. Not only the addicted is a flawed and weak human being with emotional limits. Everyone is, including the people trying to help him. If they see no results on their hard efforts, the tendency is they give up at some point, and once it happens, the addicted person will be by himself. So better that he doesn't waste the opportunity he is having in the currently moment to take advantage of every received help from this support network.

That is what he should be aware of.

The people around him may be able to show the person who is addicted to gambling the evidence or fact that he is addicted to gambling so that, gradually, he can open his eyes and see the changes he has experienced. When he can see changes in himself, maybe he will regret it, and when he feels regret and wants to cure his gambling addiction, that is what will make him want to visit someone who is an expert in treating gambling addiction. The family can continue to encourage him to undergo the healing process because it is for the good of himself and his family. When he can experience the healing process and has a family who continues to accompany him, he will see that his family does not just leave him but continues to be with him and provides encouragement and encouragement to recover from his gambling addiction.

Yes, he must be able to change his mindset, and even though he is already addicted to gambling, he can still change his mindset because as long as there is a will, there will be a way that will help him to heal himself. He can also get support from the people around him because they will always show the person who is addicted to gambling that they are people who care about him and want to see him return to the way he used to be, which can make them happy. This will encourage the person who is addicted to try to carry out the healing process well, and maybe it won't take that long for the person to be able to cure their gambling addiction. With encouragement from those closest to him, he can encourage him to keep trying, and even though it is difficult or difficult for him, he can still smile while undergoing the healing process.

Family and loved ones are something that is always worth fighting for, no matter how severe the addiction we had. For their sake it is worth living and trying to get out of the bottom in which we find ourselves. After all, if you don’t fight, then what’s the point in the game? I want anyone who finds themselves in a difficult situation to watch interviews with gambling addicts. There they talk about their path and what they have come to. I watched dozens of these videos and recognized a part of myself in each one. At some points I thought like them and it caused me fear. You don’t need to think that we are special in the game, we are just very similar in our behavior and actions there. In general, I want to say that for me it was a discovery, I understood a lot about the players, I advise you to watch it, I think this will really help many people not to slide into complete rock bottom.

Im not really that a fan on convincing people for making themselves better but for those who are really that into this field then they might be able to find out a little bit easy or something that they could be able to handle on.
We do know that not all people would really be having that kind of interest on trying out to explain things into someone specially to those people who would really be definitely making out those counter arguments on which this is something that would really be irritating for someone who do have that short temper on which i do consider myself one. When it comes on trying out to treat up those addicts then it would really be hard
that you wont really be just making use of other methods rather than on having those words and explainations. They wont really be able to resolved out such gambling addiction on just simply
trying out to motivate them through words.

They would really be always having something to say on which this kind of discussions and exchange of words wouldnt really be ending up just a day.
Just let those things be handled with those specialist whether they would really be having those kind of method or would really be sticking into traditional ones.
It would really be that something to be that situational.

Showing the addicts some videos to see could be a valid strategy. Another way of introducing the addicted player to reason like the addicts in other locations of the world. However, such technique may not be effective for a long time, until he gets tired of seeing the videos. As he would feel reminded of his troubles at all times. Though I've not known the quality of the videos you talk about, but that wouldn't be an all the time routine, between a therapist and the addict. In the mental clinic the addict needs to share his troubles with the therapist. And while in discussion with the therapist he can use the video as a reference. While maintaining a close relationship with the addict without making him look like the people in the video. It could make the gambler enjoy the session; hence he'd visit some other times. But just viewing videos could be boring and the addict would miss his therapy classes. Because he's not meant to feel like an addict in the first place. The process is just to create a space in his brain for change of habit.

Condemning his situation wouldn't help the player heal or cure his problem gambling. When we find a struggling person, our goal is to struggle with them out of the trouble. Not standing on the corner, yelling, you are the cause of your problem! Same applies to addiction, the therapist is required to claim he's in similar trouble with the addict and offers effective responses to the gambler. To make him understand that the therapist is indeed undergoing same trouble as him. Then he'd easily open up and share more details to his trouble. How it makes him during the day and night. And how long the problem has been persisting. His ways of trying to solve the problem. The moment he begins to open up his personal experiences to the therapist. I think the main aim of therapy has been achieved.

I still think that words are of great importance. Not any words, but the right ones in a certain situation and in the case of certain people. I would say the words have a therapeutic value. Some ideas have both a therapeutic and viral nature. Many people have probably noticed that it is difficult for them to get rid of certain ideas. Ideas that are difficult to get rid of (viral ideas) can either encourage play or have a therapeutic effect. But the ideas should convince the gambler that there is no point in continuing to play. In principle, his life itself proves this to him. But often he refuses to accept obvious things. Words and ideas help him look at his situation from a different angle.

I don’t consider myself an addicted person, but a few videos were enough for me to understand how difficult this path is. I don’t watch them now, but they made an impression on me and I remembered them for a very long time, if not forever. These are stories that balance on the edge of black and white. These videos help you where you can end up. I’m not saying that these videos, with interviews in which addicts tell how they hit rock bottom, will necessarily help, of course, for some it will simply not be interesting or even irritating. This will make some players think twice before clicking the "deposit" button.

Yes, but some players who are in a severe stage can pretend that they are undergoing therapy and do everything they are told. Even if it goes away over a long period of time. And he knows that as soon as he is released, he will take up the game without hesitation. There are players for whom nothing will fix or help, but if we don’t try any treatment methods, then we won’t even have a chance for healing.

They always deny it, they always justify the bad things they do. So it's quite a hassle to deal with someone like this, let alone trying to wake him up. Because his addiction and love for gambling had blinded his mind and heart to the truth that other people were trying to convey to him. And if we don't have enough patience, maybe when we try to give someone advice, everything will end in a fight. And I personally don't have enough patience to deal with people like that and for me to face someone who behaves like that, it would just be a waste of my time. because they are one of the hardest people to remind, they are one of the hardest people to advise and they are one of the people who just want to feel right about themselves.

Aren't gambling rehabs already present ? I'm sure it must be there but are not very famous.
Besides that, there are general rehabs which are present which helps us stay away from any addictions that we have.
If I were a doctor then I would rather make the patient focus on sports related activities to keep them away from gambling.
This way they would stay away from gambling while staying fit.

There is no doubt about this because they would refuse if they were already addicted to gambling. We will find it difficult to make them realize that their gambling game has gone too deep, and they need to realize that it has given them a bad experience. But if they still can't be made aware that it is a bad thing that has happened to them, especially since they have lost a lot of money, it will only be a misunderstanding between us. There is a possibility that the gambling addict will not be happy to see our presence because we are only disturbing their activities in gambling. Maybe we need to be patient and calm in accompanying them and always remind them to limit their gambling games to prevent further losses. When they can be made aware that it was a mistake and they really see it that way, we can offer them to go to a mental rehabilitation clinic so they can be cured of their gambling addiction. And it is not easy to provide understanding to those who have been gambling for a long time and for a long time too. But they still have a chance to cure themselves of their gambling addiction.

The idea of rehabilitation is to deal with people who are aware they have got a serious problems with their behavior which needs to be solved, otherwise it can be a very frustrating experience to try to convince or advice someone who does not understand there is a problem in the first place.
Being a psychologist in a rehabilitation clinic is not an easy task, I am sure, hence why some professional programs can be expensive, not even keeping in consideration the cost of the drugs and medicines which the patient may need to reach recovery.
Even though I agree with you and I do not think anyone with a short patience is supposed to engage as a staffer in a rehabilitation center, I still continue to believe those are the kind of facilities and professionals which are important part of keeping society together.

I would be willing to try only to help people who knows they need to change but do not know how,.otherwise,.I would not waste time on someone trying to justify their addiction and continuously deluding themselves on how close they are to flip their bad luck to very good luck.

The path is quite very hard and without those videos a non-addict wouldn't understand the hard steps needed to be cured from addiction. It's not a simple task. I grasp your idea. Instead of getting addicted or waiting till the person get addicted before he's attended to or taken to the clinic. It's a good thing for non-gamblers to watch such videos and learn from the mistakes of others. Although not everyone would abide by the instruction. They'll take it for granted and think that addiction isn't for them, as they've been responsible gamblers. However, before a person goes for therapy as an addict, the zeal to change must be in the back of the person's mind. People shouldn't be forced to visit the therapist; else they'll behave like what you said in your last paragraph.

A person who not ready to change, even though he goes to a rehab center for more than a year duration, the person will come out and gamble more than he used to, before he visited the rehab center. Restrictions pauses an attitude but doesn't change it entirely. Provided the addict still thinks about gambling, the whole treatment would be a wasted effort. In a clinic like that, I'd talk to the person to realize his troubles and figure whether to continue therapy or not. If he sounds unserious or not interested in the discussion. Persuading him would be a waste of time. He may end up not visiting the clinic again, or decide to leave the environment if his family doesn't let him rest with their numerous complaints. Convincing him to change would be the hardest part of healing such an addict. But, it's achievable. Begining the process, is better than not trying.

You cant convince a gambler to stop gambling until he loose all or have his own stop button like pros do. But even pros dont stop for a long time. Never gonna happen, their addiction on a level of a crack heads.

The only way they stop is if they make such decisions.

I know one guy he stopped gambling, he was doing this for many years and never wanted to quit. What made him. Well, one day for 2 years in a row he start loosing non-stop. And he never had money. After that he made decision to stop gambling for good. How long this will last no idea, but he doesn't gamble for 6 month so far.

The only way drug addict stop doing drugs if he get into prison, where every time he ask for the dose, guards will come in and bit him up. And that would last for months. I had a friend like that, he used to steal and do cocaina. One day he try to still a TV and got caught, wasn't his first time. He got into prison for 2 years. Well, guess what guards did to him. I think they did too much, now he hates drugs.

You need to change your image of yourself, your perfection etc.

It could be part of the program itself, teaching recovering gambling addicts and focus on sports activities. I also read that some doctors took holistic approach of it as we all know that there are inner demons from their patients. So they can teach yoga, meditation to improve control of one self so that they can promote overall well being.

So it's very difficult to really recover, your family as well could be involved and they are the biggest factors that can really help someone. Or even a support group will help as everyone is one the same dilemma. And so they can share their experiences and for sure it will really help each one of them recover faster. Follow up as well is needed, so that they will not go and fall on mental lapses and be addicted again.

Gambling stimulates the brain system because of the chance of winning which can involve hope in it and when someone is caught up in the hope for a win then this is the starting point for the gambler to enter the addiction phase, as I said that gambling can stimulate and involve a person's feelings which eventually put hope, and obviously over time the gambler's confidence will get higher in terms of expecting a win, they believe that it must happen, or that means they must get a big win, I also believe that because gambling is an activity of chance where you can win a very large amount and vice versa you can also lose a large amount.

But what gamblers who have entered the addiction phase don't think about is that they don't think that they are losing a lot of money in their gambling dedication to chasing that big win, they don't realize it and of course like you said that it's difficult for people to advise them because their mindset is already lost in the cycle of hope for victory so because they are so used to doing it, they feel that what they are doing is not wrong. The fact is that it is very difficult to overcome this kind of problem, only their own consciousness can make a change for the better, but it is not that easy to achieve consciousness, and I think it is likely that they have to run out of everything they have in life or be at the lowest point before they can realize it and feel unusual regret.

What do you mean when you say mathematical implications of gambling addiction and what good would does understanding it do to help a person already addicted to gambling?
They’ve been cases in the past where a casino went bankrupt. Before I even began reading more on casinos that went bankrupt, I already knew of the a casino Trump had that went bankrupt. Here are some more examples.
 https://www.gamblingsites.com/blog/casinos-that-went-bankrupt/

You’re right about casinos having an edge over gamblers. They’re in business. People seem to forget that point.

I think there are gamblers who can still be convinced, those who are just on the brink of addiction. If we can make them realize how much money they are losing then it might hit their head and decide to stop all of a sudden. That's what I did when I stopped smoking, I made a computation of how much I would be spending per day and as sin tax grows every year, it means my bad habits' budget will also grow and I don't like to happen.
That made me realize that I could use all that money for something else like if I want to treat my kids or if I want an item that I could not buy before but since I can save money now, I can.
It will depend on their circumstances and environment too. One gambler might not stop because it's part of his job, or let's say he is living in a gambling den and he is also a worker there. Imagine a daily dose of that, it will be difficult to just let go of it. I have a friend who is near addiction, I can feel it and I can see it, I tried to open it up with him but he got mad about it. This is where it gets rough for friends who literally want to help but they are being blocked. Finding a way to make them open up is also a hard task.

Is the clinic for gambling addrtors  ;D. Come on buddy a professional gambler never leave gambling become. Someone not be an expert in one day day bay day experience and skil improve. After long time and after long effort they learn gambling. Come on no one wants to leave it after proper learning because after all that be a money making machine.

Yeah I mean, as far as there are other things to do then the patient won't be getting time to gamble at all.
We should keep him so busy that there's no time left for gambling or even think about it.
Sport activities is just part of that and there can be various other activities.

In other words, we must try to persuade the person to undergo mental rehabilitation. Hi friends, this is not as easy as we imagine and if the person does not have the desire to overcome his addiction to gambling and decides to undergo mental rehabilitation, whatever persuasion and sweet promises we give him, that person will not care. Because a gambling addict will not realize that he is in big trouble, he will assume that everything is fine. And they will only realize it, when they have lost everything and no one cares enough about them anymore.


They can have a good level of patience and are not easily provoked by emotions, because they are paid handsomely for that. Meanwhile, I personally am not paid to do all that, this is just a form of my concern for those who are addicted to gambling. but if there is someone who doesn't want to be invited to be better, then I leave him. because facing such a person would only waste my precious time in vain.


If you only lose a certain amount of money, you can get that money back. However, gambling addicts will not only lose a certain amount of money, nor will they only experience one loss. Because apart from them losing financially, the valuable time they have that they cannot turn back will also be wasted. Likewise, the people who believe in him, the people who care and love him, will also disappear just because they are more concerned with gambling than the people around them. And as I said before, for a gambling addict, they will only realize it when they have lost everything, including family, property, work and relationships that they had.

Getting helped for gambling addictions is one thing that comes with a lot of resistance and confrontation from the addict himself, and for that, if you want to help anyone in terms of help, it becomes very important to take note of the individual willingness to get helped from that addictions.


Because if the addict himself is not willing to get treated, it will becomes impossible for him to get treated even if there is a formal treatment clinic for his case, this is because he will develop a resistance against that treatment, but if he knows the effects of his addictions on his overall well being, he will then learn to adjust inline with the treatment so it an individual thing before third party help.

Yes, if the amount of loss is not too big, perhaps it can still be replaced with winnings if they manage to get lucky in the next session, but if the loss is quite large then it will clearly be quite difficult to recover what has been lost in gambling. As we know, gambling is done many times and in the number of trials, the final result will not always be in accordance with what we want, in the sense that it means you lose and that loss will increase the number of losses you lost in the previous time and that is why don't expect break even point in gambling because the effort you put in will only make the amount you lose even bigger.

This is also the reason why many people suggest that if you want to get involved in gambling then try to bring an amount that you can afford because this will minimize your feelings of regret when you end up losing because you bring an amount that won't be a problem in the end. lost. Yes, that's true, actually there are many losses as a bad impact of gambling, not only losing money but we also lose time which perhaps if we used it for something else it could produce something useful. On the other hand, yes, I agree with your idea that there is nothing we can do because someone who is addicted is not easy to cure with just advice, as I said before, they have a mindset that they think is right even though in fact the opposite is true and yes as you said maybe they will be able to realize and recover from their addiction when they have exhausted everything, between being aware and recovering or ending up becoming crazy.

Is gambling that addicted that we have started to assume this kind of situation and solutions? I thoughy gambling addiction is not that deap except maybe in movies like I saw in "Squid game" a Korea movie that went viral, the movie was about gamblers that risk their lives for winning big amounts of jackpot but almost all of them died in the film because of their greediness.

The addicted gamblers I have seen have somethings in common such as been depressed and the ones that has loss huge amount of money will go any extra length to gamble with any money that comes their way. They see money for feeding as a way to gamble, they are also fund of borrowing money to gamble and all this can be solve by immediate person around them by changing their environment, the type of people they follow, the way they work and also their activities, if they have much time in their days occupied them and make sure they are busy especially if it involves money that must be going through account that must be put on watch so they don't make any snicky moves. The rehab is not necessary in my opinion.

The majority of addicted gamblers are vengeful because they want to reverse their losses and also greedy because they want to win again even though they have already won. We must know that gambling addicts are not good, and should be avoided because negative things will impact us and become financially negative.

Even if you are already a gambling addict, I don't think you need to go to a clinic, doctor, and so on. You only need to get closer to your closest family and the environment around you because this way people can usually treat addiction, because there is no doctor's prescription for addiction, but to treat it there must be support from family and people you love.

They are professional enough to handle this kind of situation and of course there will be a resistance, and it's not an overnight rehabilitation.
This will take months or even years before that clinic successfully change the addicted persons, as long as they hire professionals and they maintain the quality of their clinic, I'm pretty sure they will succeed on this. It's hard to say the argument for this one because we are not professionals and doctors to handle addicted gambler, we can only tell general advises but with a good approach, i think only professionals can do this.

When it comes or talks about gambling addiction then this is something that we do really know that it could really be treated up on different ways or methods but everything could really be done
if we are really just that having that kind of mental discipline and self control on where you would really be that making yourself that be serious on quitting gambling because there's no other than
could solve out such addiction but other than yourself. It is really just that a matter of self control and discipline on which not all would really be that having that kind of mindset on which
they are really that making themselves believing into something which is even superficial.

When it comes to distractions then there are lots of things on which a certain person could really be distracted out when it comes to gambling activity
on which it would really be that better that you should be dealing up with something so that you could be able to divert yourself into playing gambling once again.
Rehabilitation and other back up things to treat gambling addiction is there but actually you could really be able to solve out on your own.

Actually here is the answer to the question you asked but someone too sensitive may fail to answer this question. Let me first say that I am not a doctor so the thought of a doctor rarely crosses my mind. Indeed, those who serve doctors are empowered by their Creator to convince people. However, I am giving my personal answer. If I could convince a gambling addict, I would tell him that you are so miserable that you are in a mental clinic today, but you can be the best man in the country if you try. Basically tell him a famous person of the country or his life story. Because a gambling addict has to throw such a question to hurt.

Gambling addicts are indeed influential but it's up to you if you want to become like them, actually you don't have to totally avoid them as if they have contagious disease because what they have is improper thinking and uncontrollable mindset about their spending in gambling. If you are having an addiction, one way to know how to treat yourself is by consulting professionals because they are the one who knows what will you do or what medicines you need to take, I understand that some people doesn't have enough money for consultation that's why I agree with you that a Gambling addict patient should have to be close to their family members and get a verbal and emotional support.  

This can be quite difficult without the use of any pharmacology.

Addiction is most likely caused by some mental disorder that disrupts the balance of satisfaction in the brain. Most likely, the dopamine and adrenaline that the gambler feels hungers him causing him to look for it consistently. I do mostly think that the use of pharmacology is essential and mandatory- at least for this aspect.


Given the task at hand, it is definitely recommended to explain the fundamentals and basics. It is also essential that the gambler must know statistics of gamblers who have profited vs who have lost that costed them their lives and their families.

With that as the foundation of my argument, the next step would be to recommend other activities that may stimulate the brain without the need to do any sort of gambling. I will recommend doing other extra-curricular activities (e.g. jogging, working out, etc.) in order to at least help them to be busy.

I think that question is irrelevant to ask here. Even let's say we are gambling experts here, dealing on how to help others to stop being addicted to gambling is out of our field and it's not our business anymore to be involved on that. If you really need an accurate answer, you can seek answer directly at the gambling rehabilitation center and they might gave you some previous of the process they are doing to deal with their patients.

It's not as simple as asking these addicted gamblers to do something.

The person who specialized at handling addicted gamblers will give you the best response.

Yes your statement has a point to this problem, all of this stems from their inability to accept the risk of losing at the beginning of their involvement in gambling and in addition to having a personality easily provoked by things that can upset them which in the end they act out of control such as chasing defeat to break even, This is a wrong idea and not recommended, those who chase defeat are someone who does not understand what gambling is really about, most likely they come only because they are tempted by the chances of winning so that they rule out the possibility of risks that clearly have a higher percentage than the chances of winning which happens in the end they enter the addiction phase.

Not everyone knows that addiction can come without them realizing it, and this is also one of the reasons why people don't accept being called an addicted gambler, they don't admit that their approach to gambling is wrong and too much, as I said above that this is because addiction can come without you realizing it. On the other hand, it is also true that a more effective way to overcome gambling addiction is to seek help from the closest people such as family or maybe a girlfriend or boyfriend, basically people who have a close relationship with the addict because usually people will be able to appreciate some advice if it comes from people they care about, and this has the potential to restore his consciousness because to get out of addiction requires recognition and willingness from the gambler himself if he wants to succeed.

Agree with this mate and yes we all know that some gambling addict is very high and sometimes even we talk to them they got angry 👿 so there's a chance that conversation will end up to fight once those gambling addict don't help himself to move on and leave gambling then there's a chance that they will get angry with those person who are actually do something in order to help them.

Assembling the answer of the mentioned questions is certainly not easy. If someone who is addicted to gambling asks me that he wants to change his luck in gambling then I can argue to him that there are many gamblers like you who all want to change their luck then can everyone change their luck through gambling? Of course he won't answer. I can question him because not everyone will be rich because not everyone will hit the jackpot and not everyone will be rich. So we should not spend money here which if lost affects our personal life. If I were an expert I would try to say these words, but I doubt if these words will be able to change anyone's gambling addiction.

Addicts may be influential to people who listen and spend time with them, it's not their task to change an addict. An addict may not be able to influence a person who wants to help them, especially when the addict is willing to stop gambling compulsively. The trouble we have is the reaction of people towards addicts, that doesn't mean we are supposed to avoid them or not associate with the likes of addicts, but getting carried away by their conversations and not being effective with our responses can cause delays in the healing of the addict. Hence our active participation is required in converting the person's lifestyle and create a better thinking avenue in the brain of the person, to relieve himself from too many gambling thoughts. In a scenario where the addict doesn't have people close by to take good care of him, he'd need to revisit his parents or loved ones to handle his problems.

Nobody will ever be so real like those loved ones who really care. The only dispute could be that the addict wouldn't have the zeal to go back home for his treatments. People in that psychological problem, hardly accept that help could come from family or friends. The need to check up on them is better, than waiting for the addict to take action before we help. At that stage of addiction, he could be a dip trouble and may not be able to make good decisions on his own. However, their actions may not correspond with ours, but approaching them begins the healing process faster than waiting for their change of mind. Before helping them. What if the person doesn't want to change, but we are passing through hard times living with the person. It'll be of no good, to stay calm waiting until he decides to change.

I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

As far as I'm concerned, whenever a person is Treated with this, it is because basically things are going to be focused on a different type of treatment, that is, when they are in this type of Addiction, the first step is not to slander them, It can take away the anxiety they have, but how do they Get rid of it? with sleep treatments, that is, they put them to sleep for many hours until the person achieves total peace, and then if they are talked to so that they can enter their hard Treatment phase , which is basically telling them how they Should Share in a casino , how you Should bet, how you should do so that things do not get out of control , what days you should play, how many hours you should play, or how much money you should spend per day so that it does not affect your daily life, this is often done or done. In that way, of course I assume that this is under a clinic, a psychologist, and many people there to take care of them, because it is like something that they have to manage.

That is why this is so delicate, it is always about doing something about the gambling addiction, which is recommended if the person has all their senses at full capacity, because at any moment they will go off track and start doing things like going to the bathroom. casino, spend money, and you will spend much more, it is logical that you are in an addiction, when people speak to an addict sometimes the words go in one ear and come out the other, it is as if they were not spoken to, then This helps a lot when the so-called "sleep cures" are done , there is nothing like that, the person is as if on another level, the person is calmer, the person rests his mind sometimes that is just what is missing, rest the goal so that everything falls into place, or as I have said in other Messages , try to do sports and get very tired so that the mind feels that it must rest, it is the most logical thing and the most we should focus on doing, otherwise It will be very Difficult to control our addiction.

Sometimes addicts don't know if he is addicted to gambling. In this situation, he can't treat themselves, they will never think to got to the doctors. We need a help from our close people who can remind us. Their role is very necessary, they may know what we don't know. That's why we need to let our close people know about our gambling activities. So, when they realize that we are addiction, they can give helps.

You're right. The supports from close people are very important for addicts. The key to recover from addiction will depend on the close people. If we refuse about the addiction, they will try to ensure us and we can get a treatment from the doctors.

This is closely related to the environment they live in, if no one cares about him in the environment then it will be very difficult to recover.
Addiction due to gambling may be the same when compared to a person's addiction to gaming, both addictions that include interaction, and they are often alone and only play with their gadgets.

These are behavioral addictions that need to be treated morally, not just chemically because they will be cured with support from the environment and provide an understanding that what they are doing is not right.

Luckily for gambling it's way easy for you to really get rid of it, especially if you haven't ruined yourself that much just yet. So therapy or rehabilitation are nothing but last ditch effort given to people who are so far gone that the conventional quit cold turkey's just not gonna cut it. And once again, luckily for them the current systems of treatment provided for people with gambling addiction work just as fine, and they don't need any revision or whatever.Plus in my opinion, giving the people who want to change their lives the very thing that ruined it is fucking stupid. There's a reason why people who were once alcoholics swear off alcohol and would never even let a single drop of it fall into their lips. Drug addicts do not get "micro-doses" so they can slowly feel better or whatever. They quit cold turkey.

Gambling's pretty much the same and you shouldn't think of addiction recovery as a gradual process that they shouldn't be shocked with. Matter of fact it's what they should experience first and foremost.

Are there any statistics on the recovery rate for gambling addicts? Personally, I haven’t even seen such statistics, but I admit that I am poorly informed.
     Additionally, I believe that the very concept of disease and "cure" in gambling is rather poorly defined. I think that many people understand by “cure” only the case when the patient only began to control his behavior better or a little better. But the addiction, that is, the attraction to games most likely remains on a subconscious level in patients, because clinics do not treat this. And this, in fact, is a disease.


In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

I would say he solved the problem which is what the definition of cure. People who quit cold turkey have high chances of getting into it again and it can happen even after a long wait unless they have a strong reason to avoid it forever. Usually, it requires one form of new addiction to get rid of an existing one so as long as the one he quits is more severe than coming one that is acceptable that is why some drug addicts who successfully recover from it will become hardcore athletes and its good addiction.

It seems like you have also encountered and tried to advise someone who has a gambling addiction. Dealing with people like this is quite difficult, especially if they don't have the desire to be aware of their bad behavior in gambling. Because for someone to recover from their gambling addiction, it depends on the addict's own motivation and commitment. If they don't have these two things, then forever they will remain in the gloomy valley that exists in gambling. because someone who is addicted to gambling is like someone who has entered and is in a labyrinth, it is easy to find the way in, but it is difficult to find the way out, you want to forget the way home, you want to continue without knowing the way.

And helping someone who is addicted to gambling is like a fierce dog that is trapped. "If you leave it like that, it will make you feel sorry to see it. But if you help it, the dog will end up biting you."

I'm not a psychiatrist either, but I believe that just a good idea or concept will not help an addict.

In these rehabilitation clinics, professionals need to use different methods to have some success with the patient and this primarily includes the lack of access to gambling, whether physical or online, participation in stimulating activities for the brain and body, diverting attention from the addiction, and this includes physical activities and hobbies.

I believe that it is possible to carry out treatment using medication if the addicted person is really aware of their problems and has the desire to stop gambling, otherwise I think that the use of medication is essential to help control the person's hormones and put her in an easier mental state to accept treatment.

OP I’m sorry to ask are there people who are in the hospital just for too much of gambling??  I am really worrying how they talk about betting a lot that mean all they think all the time is how to play or bet game to win,what a world!!
Well back to what OP have said yes if I was the doctor I will let him no how foolish he is and tell him sorry real life story about addicts that are worse than his only for example a man who sold his homes and his two expensive cars just to bet a game and the did win at that moment the man ran mad at that moment…… you let them no how betting can hit up with then in the future…

A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?

You only need to be logical when answering the patient, if he telling me that gambling may make him rich in the future, the perfect answer to this is giving him stats of the people who got rich while gambling compared to all the gamblers who have lost so much and got poor.
First treatment for these patients will be convincing them that gambling irresponsibly is a sickness and can ruin their lives. Knowing that most addicts already knows how bad gambling addiction is, the issue is not about that but how to convince them to not gamble again. Because their problem here is like drug users chasing that dopamine feeling or adrenaline rush, all aware of the bad side effects coming with it.

A rehabilitation clinic will receive mostly patients that are already convinced of how bad gambling is and not the opposite, gamblers who still believe that they can get rich or win one day with much hope they wouldn’t accept to get treated, instead they will find any way to get more money to waste.

Luckily the mental illness cases are very few in the gambling zone,usually gamblers end ruined up and they don't suffer from such illness in most cases,of course there maybe such isolated cases anyway there are few.Most people luckily realize when they have overcome their limit and cannot continue anymore,they ask for help from friends and parents first and then into rehab centers,most of people who have a true intention of leaving gambling usually achieve it with great success.I don't think that a mental rehab clinic would be necessary,as a doctor who were treating these type of person said in a psycho hospital,he said to relatives visiting their beloved ones and not standing their emotions,crying from what they see,the doctor calmed them by telling about such mental ill persons,to leave them as they are happy in their mind and imagination.

Putting the addicted person to sleep in the case of behavioral addiction, may be too much for a client that undergoes behavioral therapy. His normal sleeping time would be enough, then putting them to sleep. Aggressive patients are treated in this manner, to let their brain cool off. A player who still watches over his games, despite being an addict, can listen or follow the instruction of the therapist without no dispute. Those who get aggressive in the process, and go against the instruction of the therapist, because it doesn't align with theirs, can be sedated to sleep for a long time. When they're awake can be talked to gradually. The essence of doing this is that, before his strength or energy get restored, he may have been counselled by the therapist. Hence, he'll hardly get sad in the process, and will earn new friendship with the therapist.

Other than that, they'll be no reliable option to calming the agitated addict. The conversation with people, can be arranged within the clinic. Allowing the addict during his free time to share information with workers in the clinic, which can make him happy. Showing him different means of being happy, helps the player to realize gambling is not the only place to get fun. Gambling treatment is different from that of other addictions, but some measure can be similar due to the similar behavior of these set of people. That means addicted people, regardless of the source of their addiction may act in similar way and cannot be treated using same therapy method. Psychotherapy may work for all of them, addicts, but behavioral therapy is best for a gambling addict.

The people who use to drink alcohol will drink the alcohol all the time,but only few get addicted to the alcohol.Likewise only some of the people use to get addicted to gambling,most of the people will do the gambling as like they have the free time.The Rehabilitation centre will be the useful one for the people who get addicted to gambling or drugs.But the government sponsor the rehabilitation centre for the drugs,they never consider the gambling as the important one which affect the lives of some people.The gambling addicted person will do the domestic violence to their family members specially the wife and children.So rehabilitation centre for gambling also important one.

No, I think there are many people who become addicted to alcohol and gambling. But there are many people also can avoid the addiction because they do it properly. So, it is all about how to do it, when we know how to gamble or drink in the right way, we probably won't have the problem with addiction. Sure, the rehabilitation center is useful, many people can be free from addiction with its help. In some countries, the addiction on gambling become important matters. I don't know if it is not an urgent thing in some countries.

Dude, not all addicted gamblers do bad attitudes like doing violence to the wife or children. There are some addicts that still understand how to do the right things. They don't won't to hurt any one, but they just think about how to recover from addiction.

The dual nature of activities like gambling and drinking can indeed lead to addiction. Understanding how to approach these behaviors in the right way is key to avoiding addiction-related problems. When people have a clear understanding of the potential risks and practice moderation, they are less likely to fall into the trap of addiction. Responsible behavior and informed choices play a significant role in preventing issues related to alcohol and gambling. Addiction is a complex issue that may require professional intervention and support.

It's noteworthy that you recognize not all addicted people exhibit harmful behaviors towards their loved ones. Some individuals, despite grappling with addiction, may still prioritize not causing harm to others and focus on their own recovery. This perspective underscores the diverse experiences and responses to addiction. It's a thoughtful perspective that acknowledges the nuances of addiction and recovery.

Exactly, if you do these both responsibly you can literally avoid addictions. Even in advertisement of alcohol drinks there would be always a tip of "drink responsibly" because it depends on the person who drink if he would drink excessively. Just think of the rehab center would be pricey like here in my country because they would prescribe you pills for sure as the addiction already affected your health. But this kind of topic doesn't really talk about here since the most people affected by addiction by gambling is the rich one, where you can hear cases of them selling their houses and cars.


Well, for some but for sure there's still cases of people that reach that far as they don't know how to handle their addiction which can causes violence to their surroundings. But yeah, some just want support from their family to overcome their problem of addiction

The most interesting thing, in my opinion, is that the addiction is different in different types of games. If we take poker and, for example, sports betting from a traditional bookmaker, then the “disease” is different. In poker, it is, in principle, possible to make a profit over the long term. But for this you need to be a very high-class player. In poker, if you win, then, in principle, no one will take your profit away from you. But in sports betting, if you win against a bookmaker in the long term, it is basically impossible to make a profit. Because you are dependent on the bookmaker, and the bookmaker does not benefit from you constantly winning. He will block your account, reduce odds, and reduce maximums. Many gamblers do not understand this and hope for long-term winnings. It seems to me that sometimes it’s enough to explain this to them and the treatment will go faster.

I feel like the best way to treat patients with addictions is to separate them from it completely, not giving them even the slightest chances to return.

For example, when you have someone with eating disorder, who's overweight and sits at home all day eating and watching TV, you have to move them to a location where food is scarce, for example to a warm climate, preferable the seaside, maybe take them on a boat trip. The warm climate will make them burn more calories, there's no TV, no way to buy premade food.
It's the same with gambling addicts. They have to be moved to a place with no casinos and no Internet access. Then they have to be given something to do, like heavy workout routines, walks to the mountains, swimming, so when they go to bed they drop like a rock and sleep until morning.

Of course, people end up in rehab centers not only because they gamble a lot, but because of financial losses. But financial losses that cause great harm to the patient’s life arise, among other things, due to an incorrect understanding of the game’s mechanics. It seems to a person that he and the bookmaker are playing on equal terms. The person does not understand that the bookmaker has an advantage.

Of course, before trying to treat a person, you need to know his worldview well. Often, if not always, the roots of many problems are rooted in this worldview. A person too easily accepts ideas that can destroy his life.

Well I say something, if we do something like that Therapy I consider it to be somewhat faster, what I consider for this type of things is the sleep cure to prevent more ideas from being taken and that could lead the addict to much Worse Conditions. things to do, otherwise, well yes, I know that what you say can also be useful, just so that I can stop the addiction is fine for me, the rest is because nothing else can be done, an addicted person must Quickly Start doing things to calm everything that has to do with his behavior, otherwise, it is difficult to do it , sometimes this type of treatment is usually very effective and good so that it can generate any type of help , so when I I see that it is Effective, because I say that not only for those who are threatening patients with other attitudes, they are people who need to be able to have help quickly, I mean that a person receives treatment that quickly and not that it takes too long so that later it will be very difficult to make any type of more Radical solution.

I see that if the addiction has a quick cure, then it has to be done, it has to be taken Quickly to be able to execute its action, otherwise things can be very difficult for everyone, in this aspect things can look very Difficult  , Although if not carried out with adequate care ,Treatments that do not have to do with sleep cures are effective, but it may be that the person is reluctant and does not heal at once, or at least does not stop at once but With sleep cures, the person will be calmer, more serene and with more attitude to think about any other solution, these types of Things are what you See and that can be solved, a Psychologist, a person who can give a quick Solution is what you need, is needed, otherwise things can be very different if they are not treated quickly Enough.

Indeed. When we understand the potential negative impacts of addiction, we will try to prevent ourselves from the addiction. Stick with some ways to avoid it will be very reasonable to do. For example, we won't allocate too much money for gambling. We must commit with the money allocated to the gambling. If we don't discipline with the money used for gambling, it will lead to gambling excessively.

Sure. Addiction is a complicated matter, it requires a help from doctors if it is already a severe addiction. We can't expect to solve the addiction ourselves.

It sometimes depends on the nature of the individual. If the individual is an emotional person, it is very possible to do harmful things to the loves ones. Although they are not addicted, it is still possible to do it. But for the kind people, they may still have a control for themselves. Although they are addicted to something, they prefer to hurt themselves than they hurt other people.

I've been thinking a lot about a treatment called "game deprivation." That is, this is a type of treatment in which the therapeutic effect is achieved by prohibiting the patient from playing games. Of course, this method has many positive aspects and clearly has a good therapeutic effect. But I would say not at all. First of all, he can help those who have already made the decision within themselves to part with games, but they need to take the next step, which they cannot take.
       But there is another category of patients. Those who, deep down, are not sure that they should quit because they like the game. Although intellectually they understand that the game in their case is destructive.

Well, let me start with the alcohol part, drinking alcohol and not getting addicted to it is not common unless you don't know the power of addiction to alcohol. Or perhaps you are mistaking it to getting drunk all the time, addiction is more than that. Many people who are drinking alcohol cannot do a day without drinking it many times, especially those who have it at home or in their offices. They might never get drunk, but the urge to take it regularly or every day will always be there. It is most people who are drinking alcohol who are addicted to it, which is what I wanted to refute here, only a few among them will not be addicted to it even as alcohol addiction is more powerful than you think.

Also, what aggravates addiction is the free time we have in most cases, to some, it might be loneliness and for others, they will be having fun with their favourite hobbies when it happens, so the same goes for gambling addiction as well when the spare time is more and you engage more in it, you would be addicted this way. This is why it is good to be well informed initially about this so that you can plan and guard against it before infesting you. But if one is being affected already, I think that it will be so nice to get help, it might be from friends and family, but if the case is higher, it could be external help. And of course, professionals in this category would know the right things to do.

However, if it has gotten to violence at home, then it is something else because it is the situation of passing the aggression due to your losses despite you being the one who went there to gamble with the money yourself. That is ill and selfish of anybody to do and it calls for serious help.

This includes almost all types of addiction, not just gambling or online gaming addiction. This includes almost all types of addiction, not just gambling or online gaming addiction. The addict's real-life environment plays an important role in the addiction treatment journey, as it can be a source of support and motivation, and it can also help provide protection from factors that may lead to relapse.

The most important thing that those close to the patient can do is to help the addict adhere to the treatment program and not fall victim to successive relapses that may worsen his condition.

I can't just imagine on this excerpt for gambling addicts that it has gone to the extent of a mental level, we should not make it appear that there should be all necessity to make reservations as remedy on every addicted gambler, who will take their responsibility for every of the actions in which they are receiving their consequences, anything that has to do with rehabilitation then has to be on those whose conditions are worse beyond personal control and I don't think the government or the NGOs could be willing to be responsible for any of these.

And you think we ain't got specialist on that area where addicts are being converted already?.. oh please!! Haven't you heard of the term hypnotherapist before? A  Person that organises therapy?..
definitely!!
I'll simply be very versatile... I'mma be putting up the realities to you and I may be even ask you to continue gambling, over my watch for about 2 weeks consistently... that's if you're being doubtful. If at the end of the time interval -- with my analysis, the stakes doesn't surpass the gains, I'll simply tell you to continue with your habits.

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When a gambler is admitted to rehabilitation, he is admitted to rehabilitation only when all the negative effects are observed in him and he is no longer able to protect himself from gambling. As a psychological I can't do any kind of consultant on gambling because a gambler or an alcoholic, whatever you call it, is only out of control when the brain is impaired and disordered. Methodology and therapy along with family support can have a hugely positive impact on them.

Definitely gamblers can argue to the end so it doesn't sound new seeing an addict arguing, in this situation the doctor like you said or the person in charge of this situation need to be smart and outstanding to answer every question, the person will always want to argue that gambling is not bad so as an addict but if I may ask what have you ever achieve from gambling or rather show me a valuable property you've bought with your gambling skills.
Secondly deprive the person from gambling always, they're many means we can use to  distract such person, I believe if the person can stay without gambling for one week then you're actually progressing. I don't necessary believe in changing an addict but rather they should learn and change by  them self, this method looks like you're forcing the person to change and that's not right. People who are willing to change as an addict but they can't change is really bad, why not visit a therapist someone you can talk to and they'll always have a solution.

any person that is addicted in gambling does not need a clinic to treat itself because addition of numbering is based on what you need or what you want even a greatness can also contribute for addition of gambling so what the person need is advice is not a medical treatment because that does not have to do with a Blog or depression

I have said this before and am still going to say it here: there is no way to make a gambling addict change unless he or she is self-determined to change. That is when you can apply some little help to the person, which can help him or her fully change their addicted gambling lifestyle and become a better person. 

It is when an addicted gambler has accepted that they are addicted and they want to change and become better. That's when your work will be simple, but if it's an addicted gambler who has sold their mind to addiction and they are not even seeing themselves as people who are addicted, then there is no help that can work for them unless you will have to reformat their brain. 

Sometimes ago, I always talk about one of my college friends who was an addicted gambler, and there was nothing his parents did not do to help the boy, but every attempt to help him was futile. 

You can restrict an addicted gambler for months, but the moment you give him freedom, he goes straight away to gamble. 

Most people can be so rude and aggressive to an extend when angry like speaking rudely or wanting to do something crazy, an addict might not mean to hurt their family members when they lose but sometimes the tone of their voice can show such person is angry, anger can be transferred aggressively unknowingly mostly when the person is emotional and can’t share their pains but rather they decide to speak rudely thinking they’ll feel fine. In this case I will consider the gambler as an addict even if they’re not addicted it’s best we describe people like this cause when developing habit like this one day such gambler can’t do without gambling win

You do not need all these extremes just deploy the ancient art of mathematics.   Do your homework, play the game after considering all possibilities in hard ink.   Stop spoiling yourself by betting blindly, if that is your entertainment then of course but if you are somehow feeling cursed and unable to control yourself do the maths on your problem.   Break down each game, compare and contrast and then decide; deploy more of your brain not less.

Forcing them to change their lifestyle may not really be a good route to alter their habits. But you can ask them what they really want in life, their possible motivations to change for the betterment of themselves.
You need to convince them that changing the course of their life will lead them to a productive life and maybe a better future for them. Also, you need to learn the reasons behind why they are getting addicted or the reasons why they are into gambling. Knowing the root cause can give you insights on how to address their dilemma of getting addicted.

It was the essential one,because many gamblers get addicted into the gambling.So the gamblers who get addicted should have the right place to balance the mental stress.The gambling is not the wrong one,but playing the game with more skills was important one.Even though you advise the gambling addicted person,they can’t easily get away from the gambling addiction.The reason behind the addiction was because of their previous losses in the gambling.The most of the gamblers try to get back their gambling losses by keep their games again and again till they recover their game in gambling site.

The root for the gambling addiction is very simple their previous losses in the gambling addiction.But the problem is gamblers never accept their gambling addiction in the gambling site.Some of the gamblers never understand their gambling addiction,they simple thought they are playing the game to recover the losses. The gamblers should take responsibility towards their losses to avoid addiction in gambling site.

Wonderful opinion. Many people forget about this or simply don’t pay attention. Really, why does a person lose for a long time? Why can't he stop playing? The word "addiction" does not explain his behavior well. What is addiction? I believe that the dependence within is very diverse. For some, it’s just a desire to relax and they don’t know how to manage finances and don’t know the term “money management.” Another has an obsession with winning a lot of money. But he doesn't even try to develop any rational strategies. He just places bets blindly.

Actually I'm very much aware of the defense of the gambler because I'm a gambler too aswell so I will get a better understanding of his points of view and then I will have good points to counter his points in the fact that I have a first ha d experience so speaking from experience I think I will have a better edge of conviction for such gambler to understand that he or she should discontinued even if not completely but for a while and try out something else, it's very true they can quickly get rich gambling but then what are the chances and the odds that they will be able to get such done and in what space of time will they be able to achieve that and how much they would have achieved doing sometimes els within that period of time they dedicated all their time to gambling, but having gambling on the side will avail them a better chance to getting involved with sometimes that can help them in the long run.

I will try to get them convinced in the fact that the chances and odds they get rich gambling is just too small hence it will be better they just decided to get something else doing while they are hopeful about gambling because if they keep investing their all in gambling alone they may get bankrupt while they are yet to get rich but if they have got sometimes else doing the chances are they will still be doing just great.

That's why they must have controls over themselves in gambling and after gambling so they don't have a problem or gets addicted to gambling. Many gamblers already gets addicted to gambling because they can't understand that gambling is just for fun and not for making money and that's why we must take care of ourselves. And when they gets addicted to gambling, they must go to the clinic and meet professional that can helps them to cure their addiction. But before they go to clinic, they can tells people around them and share the fact that they are addicted to gambling so all of them can search for the ways to helps the addicted person.

Many people becomes addicted to gambling because of many reasons and one reason is because they lose their money while playing gambling. But not many people realizes that they already gets addicted to gambling instead will still playing gambling and gets deeper in gambling. Gamblers will not accepted the facts that they already gets addicted so that makes them will not stops their gambling activity or even reduces their gambling activity.

Any gaming addiction is caused by psychological reasons, or rather chemical processes occurring in the human body.  A person is looking for simple ways to get pleasure. 
A person very often psychologically depends on victories, so winning in a casino brings him great pleasure.  Chemicals such as seratonin and dopamine enter the bloodstream.  They cause a feeling of mild euphoria. 
A person with a weak will becomes dependent on these pleasant sensations and gradually develops a gaming addiction. 
To prevent this from happening, you need to control yourself well.

I try to enter into your state of dilemma with regards to the topic and all I could find is a very difficult situation right here.

Now this person isn’t sick, don’t need drugs to calm down at times, isn’t having itches or having to tear themselves up occasionally but rather, just a zeal to make money through short means.
I think we already have a solution of treatment for these persons and that is, therapy. We might not need a doctor but, therapists and having to stop these persons from actually going about to make money for themselves by creating an environment (rehab center) where they just live day to day, eat and is just being spoken to and listened to wouldn’t help them.

Remember, what pushes most gamblers is the zeal to make money and that’s how the addiction is easily developed, when you are about this pathway.
Now, having to hold them captive in such rehab centers would only create in their minds a different kind of problem. They start to think everyday that they aren’t making money, are wasting their time and aren’t allowed to live. It seems bad because, these are people that wants to make money.

They don’t need a place where they are kept away from society, they need to be in the society because they aren’t a danger to society but themselves. So, they should be in society and have therapy sessions, with a manager for his/her account with family and friends by their side to help.

When people are addicted, they have a lot in common with other addicted people, the main thing they have in common is that they are doing that thing that causes them addiction because they want to have fun to forget their problems. So the point doctors focus on is asking addicts how they feel in real life, what causes them problems, what causes them pain and what they actually did to solve these problems that cause them pain. Then the doctor begins little by little by making the addicts do many things that make them happy, but which do not involve gambling or money.

This is so that addicted people over time begin to realize that there are many other things in the real world for them to do and have fun and doctors keep asking addicts about the problems they have and help addicts solve those problems while they are having fun. with other things, for example, suppose that an employee of a company is humiliated every day at work by his colleagues because he is very thin, because of these humiliations this thin employee spends a lot of time at home playing at the casino and becomes addicted to gambling. unlucky and quickly

So the doctor goes out with him every day to some place so he can have fun in that place but without any gambling, the doctor stays talking to him in that place. makes him laugh a lot, asks him what he would like to do in this place, with time spent doing this every day, the skinny addict will stop being afraid of people, he will stop feeling inferior and he will accept himself and not bother more when they call him skinny and he will make friends and stop his gambling addiction.

It is not a treatment that takes a few days. It takes a long time to completely cure an addict, it has high financial costs and you have to have a lot of patience. but it's worth it because it saves people's lives, unfortunately most relatives give up on the addicted person early, this is what makes it most difficult for addicts to heal, because relatives keep pressuring and condemning the addict

This is interesting, for this reason it is better to receive treatment based on a psychiatrist then? Because I understand that to stop a compulsive addict he has to do many things, even Sleep for days, the idea is to calm him down and not let him do Crazy things, what you say is Very good , if you are a psychologist then you understand mental states much better and psychological aspects of behavior in a person like that, but Sometimes I think that a Person who does not have that control should be Medicated, because otherwise things will not turn out well, of course that is what I think. .

Each case is unique. We need to analyze if the gambler is addicted due to ignorance, lack of discipline, or if there is a biological disfunction going on inside his brain. When it's about the first two cases, then we can expect educative therapies to be very efficient, if the gambler is willing to cooperate. However, when it's about the third situation, where there biological and chemical processes going on in disfunctional ways, I fear pharmacological treatment will be needed, at least on short run, until the gambler can calm down and start educating himself through the therapy.

But again, since each case is unique, we can't assure a pharmacological free treatment will be enough to remit the addiction, although in my opinion it totally worth the attempt, because as we know, medical drugs have lots of side effects, including the most modern drugs which are heavily used nowadays to treat diverse disorders from the compulsive spectrum of emotions.

It's about escaping something deeper than drug or behavior. Self-medication is often used to manage discomfort. Good addiction treatment works by identifying the root cause of the addiction rather than just advising someone to stop. Escape from such trap is brutal. Replace that short fix with something real and joyful. Consider a self-conscious individual who gambles to forget his emotions. Take him out, eliminate the gambling, make it fun, and he steadily rebuilds his confidence. It's slow and difficult, but feasible.

Recovery isn't only quitting your addiction. Understanding what led you there and developing healthy life habits... It's about finding life's meaning again, not just therapy.

by finding the motivation that needs to be carried out and must be discussed with people who have more experience in the field, in my opinion this is very necessary for some gambling addicts, they don't know where to change their personality to get rid of addiction, the decision is in their own hands to change it, maybe at first it's difficult, it all takes a long time. to reach the destination of the process and we can try to go to a mental rehabilitation clinic which is much better forin a way treatment.

Addiction requires therapy not a psychiatrist. Putting the gambler to sleep for days wouldn't make impacts since the memory of gambling wouldn't get erased from the addict's brain when he finally wakes up. Therapy works differently to recuperate the emotions of the gambler. He is mentally disordered not insane. It's just the difference. Those who are not mentally fine are taking to the psychiatrist. Addicts are only compulsive in the matters of gambling. They don't forget about their hiegine they still behave normal unlike those insane who act strangely.

However, if unattended to, an addict may get himself insane. And begin to act in an unacceptable way. The right people to help an addict is his family. Those he most love and respect can change his thoughts for a while and redirect it to something productive. I've felt this personally on other activities which I felt was consuming most of my time, a friend recommended a game that now makes me focus and designate time for such activities. Not getting moved by it anymore. That's the strength of a loved one in such matters. A therapist can't start his work properly if he's not made the addict comfortable around him.

This is true, but we still do not know what we mean by recovery. In fact, what is recovery? This is very similar to alcohol addiction. I already wrote about this, if an alcoholic does not drink alcohol, can we say that he has recovered? We can ask exactly the same question in relation to gambling addiction: if a person does not gamble, does this mean that the person has recovered? But a person may not play for various reasons. For example, he may simply restrain himself, but in his heart he may have a passionate desire to play. This is why so-called “breakdowns” occur.

In short, it's all just mental.
It's not like we are taking a drug or a substance that is addicting to our body like nicotine, alcohol, cocaine, or whatever. In fact, nicotine taking is also just mental because I stopped smoking just by thinking about not smoking, and I also thought about my kids getting sick when they smell cigars on my breath whenever I kiss them.
If it's really that addictive then I may have not stopped it. I smoked for like 18 years and just one instant I literally didn't take one cigarette up until now. 5 years.
Even if we were to go to a gambling rehabilitation clinic, it might not work if our mentality when we go out is to gamble again. It doesn't work that way. What we learned in rehabilitation must be kept until we get out and we should stay disciplined until we won't think about gambling anymore even if we have the means to do so. Money.

That good, but I think the only thing that is worthy and easy from is to have other activities that are much more interesting and can be much more profitable, on the other hand it must be an activity that can provide pleasure.
I have said about things like this, if everything is about money then the escape that can be taken is to learn to trade and this activity can provide profits, fun and also lot of experience.
In addition, nowadays there are quite lot of groups or trade groups that have quite large number of members from each region, they can joke with each other and also curse each other for the short pleasure of interacting with foreigners.
I sure that in this way gambling will be more suppressed or forgotten, but it will all come back to each individual whether they want to do all that or not.

Moreover, when they are aware of the dangers and impacts of gambling, they can think carefully about what to do when they are in bad conditions.

When it comes to recovery, it is not only what the person actually does that should be focused on, so if we pay attention, when it comes to rehabilitation centers, there is a counseling session that is done so that the emotional and mental state of a person is also treated, we can't really say that a person has recovered from addiction just because we see them stop doing something, we can only say that they have recovered if they are fully healed and even if you put in front of them the thing they were addicted to before, they will feel relieved that they deny it.

It depends on the level of addiction, if the gambler is not at a very serious level, he should not be given medication to control his addiction, at most he will be given regular therapy to be able to control himself. Because addiction is very easy to treat, if the treatment is carried out by someone who is an expert in that field, some people don't even need medication to recover, because it's just a matter of rehabilitation and a deep and empathetic approach towards the addict.