Mental rehabilitation clinic.

[iv4n]

That's right, this is a non-standard clinic. This is a special thought experiment. You say that classes at this clinic or school may give patients false hope. I would say it differently. You need to be objective and tell the truth. But the truth is that hope may not be false. Yes, it is difficult to get into the top 1% of profitable players, but in principle IT IS POSSIBLE. And until we have proven to the patient that, given his situation, it is impossible to become one of the profitable players in the game, he will continue to cling to it. But for the 1% of patients, the right treatment can and should be proof that they can become a profitable player.
    Maybe the patient came to us by chance? And is this the future Bob Voulgaris or another gambling genius? Why should we tell him lies?

At 18, he took a gap year, traveling to his parents' birth towns of Argos and Tripoli. He then joined his father in Las Vegas for two months, staying at Caesars Palace.

It looks like he discovered himself, and he had nice starting help. I believe we can agree that the beginnings are the hardest.

Anything is possible, that's why we are gambling in the first place... but we need to know our possibilities & chances. I guess in principle it's possible to help some people discover their inner talents for some gambling games, but to me, it looks like a school of gambling. And my opinion about such schools would be the same as about paid poker courses and sports tipsters, most of them will just try to take money and will not help in anything. I guess the ones who can make a difference are pretty expensive and it's not easy to find them.

[rdbase]

You can take a horse to the river bank but you can’t force it to have a drink of water. Someone not willing to recognize his problems cannot go about solving it. The patient first needs to muster enough will to get better cause he’s going to need a lot during the journey.
It really is quite necessary to find a new hobby that would help give you something else to focus on. Might as well be a productive one that could add to one’s worth.

I would expect a child to give weak arguments like “getting rich in future only if you continue gambling” and “how his luck is just around the corner” but I also wouldn’t be surprised to hear such from adults.
I’ll say.. this topic is quite interesting and engaging too. Would want to read other people’s approach to this.

A very interesting topic to see in the gambling section. This for certain at all levels, no matter how you look at it.

But back to the point you have made. Yes this is a major misconception of how the subject on a gambler's fallacy truly works.
I believe this had been discussed several years ago on another topic if I am not mistaken, as this was the initial time I had heard of this term being used in a public space and in recent conversation.
Having rewatched a series on Netflix just before the new year the main focus was putting blame on the character's shortcomings in life and financially due to gambling addiction.
And they directly pointed it out as a sickness one endures and nothing more than that.
So yes, I would have to agree with all who do see it as a mental illness inwhich one would need to seek treatment inorder to cure themselves of this disease.

[Jody.Drummer]

It's a good topic but it's also a difficult topic to talk about because the advice of doctors is more important in these things. I think group therapy can have a calming effect on these people. Being in a group that has the same impulses as us makes us feel that we are not alone. Also, the motivating words of the people there have a bigger impact on us. Medication would be the last thing I would recommend, because with medication we may get them out of gambling addiction, but we make them drug addicted.

Yes but regarding the ease or difficulty of overcoming addiction it also depends on how severe the condition of addiction they are experiencing and also on the other hand in my opinion there really must be openness from patients to doctors or experts, they must really bring out all the problems and tell everything in detail so that doctors / experts can find formulas or drugs in any form that is in accordance with what is needed, because on the other hand it is not uncommon for me to see failures in overcoming gambling addiction simply because patients are not serious about getting well, meaning that they are not open with all the addiction problems they suffer so that doctors have difficulty finding the right formula which ultimately has no effect and does not produce changes.

So the point is that in terms of the healing process from gambling addiction, it really requires a good combination between the doctor / expert and the patient who wants to be treated, everything can run smoothly if they are open to each other and create good comfort in the healing process.

[Julien_Olynpic]

It looks like he discovered himself, and he had nice starting help. I believe we can agree that the beginnings are the hardest.

Anything is possible, that's why we are gambling in the first place... but we need to know our possibilities & chances. I guess in principle it's possible to help some people discover their inner talents for some gambling games, but to me, it looks like a school of gambling. And my opinion about such schools would be the same as about paid poker courses and sports tipsters, most of them will just try to take money and will not help in anything. I guess the ones who can make a difference are pretty expensive and it's not easy to find them.

I think that if this idea were implemented in practice (and this is just a thought experiment), then such an institution would combine the features of a counseling center and at the same time a mental rehabilitation clinic. School... hardly a school, although it is true that patients have a lot to teach if. Certainly. They themselves will want to learn something.
      I don't like traditional clinics or traditional schools. Clinics essentially do not know how to treat, because they do not understand that this is not a disease, but a pathological worldview. A person has a number of ideas in his head, the incorrectness of which he does not realize, and these ideas push him to the social bottom.
     But before we treat someone, we need to understand who is in front of us. Is this person really not going to be able to make money in the long term, like 99.8% of players, or is this someone who can?
    In traditional clinics there is no treatment, they simply provide deprivation from the game. That is, they do it so that a person does not encounter the game in real life. At the same time, his pathological ideas do not go anywhere. And he can break at any moment. Is this treatment or rehabilitation?

[ethereumhunter]

I think the gambling addiction clinic should use a mix methods and support groups instead of just relying on gambling experts. Gambling experts give good advice but it is good to deal with the emotional and psychological reasons why someone has an addiction of gambling. They should try to set their minds. Because some times people do gambling for relaxation but when they lose money this affect them emotionally.
The gambler may say that they can control their gambling or stop whenever they want. But this is not an easy thing. It's also important to suggest finding other things to do instead of gambling to keep them busy and safe them from to much gambling. In this way they will busy their self to others game and then with the passage of time they will leave gambling.

Yes, that's clear because we know that there are various causes of someone experiencing a gambling addiction, so doctors at gambling addiction clinics must be able to find the right formula for each gambling addict. They may test one formula for one gambler and it may work but that doesn't guarantee it will work for other gambling addicts. That is why doctors have to look for other methods so that they can cure every gambling addict. Doctors must also be able to find the root of the problem that makes someone addicted to gambling so they can use appropriate methods to cure it. Emotional and psychological factors also need to be considered because there may be gambling addicts who think about gambling so deeply that they have difficulty eliminating thoughts about gambling. When they have found the root of the problem, doctors can encourage them to realize their mistakes so that they can rebuild themselves from scratch and start doing things that are not related to gambling.

[Volimack]

It can be difficult to root it out with real statistics. It is not guaranteed that all professional gamblers will provide their expertise like a doctor. Risk management should evaluate the patient's activities in a holistic manner. Gambling is a platform where aggrieved gamblers do not want to listen to experts and indulge in their own addiction. A clinic doctor if treating a gambler will try to convince him psychologically first. If you are mentally healthy less chaos will be created.

[Blitzboy]

 I agree that gambling success requires a well-designed gaming system with good risk management. The reality is very different for most. The odds are usually against the player in gambling. Probability and arithmetic are involved, not luck or a winning streak. Even the most advanced system cannot outperform a profit-driven one.

How about the "not lucky yet" ? Gambling is chance. Gambling for long-term revenue is like constructing a home on sand - unsustainable. There may be short-term successes, but the house always wins. Statistical reality, not pessimism.

However, gambling may be fun when done for fun rather than profit. Be moderate and treat it as a hobby with boundaries. This gives you the exhilaration without the financial risk. Alternatives include hobbies or pastimes that are equally exciting or engaging. Finding balance and understanding gambling is key.

[Iroh]

And they directly pointed it out as a sickness one endures and nothing more than that.
So yes, I would have to agree with all who do see it as a mental illness inwhich one would need to seek treatment inorder to cure themselves of this disease.

I did try but failed to see how gambling addiction can be said to be a disease but If we’re speaking figuratively, It’s all good and I can understand that.

I’m also not entirely convinced on a gambling addiction being a mental illness. Reading up on if a gambling addiction could really be said to be a mental disorder and  one form of disorder stuck out. Obsessive compulsive disorder. Perhaps, with a mental disorder like that, an individual could gradually become an addict and would have to seek treatment for his disorder.

I do think a solid majority of gamblers all over that slid down the dark hole of addiction are the cause of their own misfortune.

[|MINER|]

It can be difficult to root it out with real statistics. It is not guaranteed that all professional gamblers will provide their expertise like a doctor. Risk management should evaluate the patient's activities in a holistic manner. Gambling is a platform where aggrieved gamblers do not want to listen to experts and indulge in their own addiction. A clinic doctor if treating a gambler will try to convince him psychologically first. If you are mentally healthy less chaos will be created.

That's true I have been seen a lots of addicted gambler who can't change their gambling addiction after backing from rehabilitation clinics. I just think that if the things is not comes from online it can't be remove from anyone's help like those we have rehabilitation also can't make a gambler to a healthy life.

[Julien_Olynpic]

And they directly pointed it out as a sickness one endures and nothing more than that.
So yes, I would have to agree with all who do see it as a mental illness inwhich one would need to seek treatment inorder to cure themselves of this disease.

I did try but failed to see how gambling addiction can be said to be a disease but If we’re speaking figuratively, It’s all good and I can understand that.

I’m also not entirely convinced on a gambling addiction being a mental illness. Reading up on if a gambling addiction could really be said to be a mental disorder and  one form of disorder stuck out. Obsessive compulsive disorder. Perhaps, with a mental disorder like that, an individual could gradually become an addict and would have to seek treatment for his disorder.

I do think a solid majority of gamblers all over that slid down the dark hole of addiction are the cause of their own misfortune.

Here a lot depends on what is meant by the word disease. I believe that at the moment there is no generally accepted definition of the disease. How does he understand something of his own by this? As for mental illness, things are even more complicated. Often, when defining a disease, many people refer to the “norm,” although this can also mean different things.
     I think that in the end it is not so important what to call the problem that a particular person has. What is much more important is how to get rid of it. Difficulties with “treatment” arise precisely because the patient still has hope of winning in his head. And only catastrophic losses, perhaps, convince him of the impossibility of making money on it.

[SeaCoinCollector.]

As the gambling expert in the rehab center, I would stress how important it is to understand the patient's current position and how their gambling is hurting them. It's important to note that the idea of a good game system is hard to come by because the odds are always in favor of the house. To get the patient to change his mind, I would stress how unpredictable gambling results are and how likely it is that he will lose money in the long run. In addition, I would tell them to look into other activities that will make them happy and keep their mind off of their compulsive desire to bet. It's important to help the patient get a realistic picture of the risks of gambling and picture a healthier, more balanced life without depending on the random outcomes of games of chance.

[blckhawk]

It can be difficult to root it out with real statistics. It is not guaranteed that all professional gamblers will provide their expertise like a doctor. Risk management should evaluate the patient's activities in a holistic manner. Gambling is a platform where aggrieved gamblers do not want to listen to experts and indulge in their own addiction. A clinic doctor if treating a gambler will try to convince him psychologically first. If you are mentally healthy less chaos will be created.

Not really, statistics have a margin of error to account for that kind of variables, because they know that they can't get all of the people to sign up in the data gathering and even if they do, it takes time. You haven't done a survey in your life so you think that it's impossible to do a statistics. There's no guarantee in the professional gamblers because they're not qualified to do that, they're not licensed therapist unless they really are, they're gamblers and it's actually wrong for them to even do some kind of therapeutics without the approval of the real doctors so there's no way that it's legitimate to do just that, also it's not a physician that deals with this kind of things, it's psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers.

[leonair]

As the gambling expert in the rehab center, I would stress how important it is to understand the patient's current position and how their gambling is hurting them. It's important to note that the idea of a good game system is hard to come by because the odds are always in favor of the house. To get the patient to change his mind, I would stress how unpredictable gambling results are and how likely it is that he will lose money in the long run. In addition, I would tell them to look into other activities that will make them happy and keep their mind off of their compulsive desire to bet. It's important to help the patient get a realistic picture of the risks of gambling and picture a healthier, more balanced life without depending on the random outcomes of games of chance.

Rehab centers are known as drug addiction treatment centers and provide treatment to drug addicts.  However, no one can guarantee how effective rehab centers are for gambling addicts. A lot of mental torture is done in rehab centers so when someone comes out of rehab they are almost half crazy. Because of this, many people do not like rehab.  And I don't think rehab is necessary for gambling addicts. Strict family supervision is sufficient for this

[Hirose UK]

It can be difficult to root it out with real statistics. It is not guaranteed that all professional gamblers will provide their expertise like a doctor. Risk management should evaluate the patient's activities in a holistic manner. Gambling is a platform where aggrieved gamblers do not want to listen to experts and indulge in their own addiction. A clinic doctor if treating a gambler will try to convince him psychologically first. If you are mentally healthy less chaos will be created.

That's true I have been seen a lots of addicted gambler who can't change their gambling addiction after backing from rehabilitation clinics. I just think that if the things is not comes from online it can't be remove from anyone's help like those we have rehabilitation also can't make a gambler to a healthy life.

Well, I also have the same thoughts and answers as you.
I said before that rehabilitation services will never be able to help gambling addict get out and recover completely from his addiction.
Of the many cases of gambling addiction that can really be cured and stopped completely, from what I know, no one can really stop gambling.
I believe that guide can reduce the intensity of gambling that is often done, but I still consider bullshit to the statement that an addict can recover and completely leave gambling.
They have lot of convenience and also the influence of every gambling activity, they can have very easy access to enter gambling so that getting someone to stop gambling is something that is very difficult, it can almost be said to be impossible.

The only way in my opinion is to reduce the intensity of gambling and by doing so, the negative impacts that can arise will be reduced.
They gamble with ambition, but when they can reduce the intensity of gambling, their goals and ambitions can change to just having fun.

[slapper]

First, acknowledge the patient's optimism of future success:

"Many patients share your desire for a great win. Consider gambling success statistics and reality. How the system works makes the odds against the gambler. Many professional gamblers have strict systems and methods. In addition to luck, they use extensive mathematical models, game mechanics knowledge, and emotional control. Given this, casual gamblers have little chance of long-term success."

After their counterarguments, I would say:

"Your faith in luck is natural, but let's examine gambling addiction. Continuous defeats from the 'just one more win' mentality sometimes eclipse prior and future wins. Why not focus on tasks that provide more consistent satisfaction? Building skills, relationships, or personal progress is more fulfilling than gambling."

I'm suggesting solutions to move the topic away from the patient's defensiveness.

[Accardo]

As the gambling expert in the rehab center, I would stress how important it is to understand the patient's current position and how their gambling is hurting them. It's important to note that the idea of a good game system is hard to come by because the odds are always in favor of the house. To get the patient to change his mind, I would stress how unpredictable gambling results are and how likely it is that he will lose money in the long run. In addition, I would tell them to look into other activities that will make them happy and keep their mind off of their compulsive desire to bet. It's important to help the patient get a realistic picture of the risks of gambling and picture a healthier, more balanced life without depending on the random outcomes of games of chance.

Rehab centers are known as drug addiction treatment centers and provide treatment to drug addicts.  However, no one can guarantee how effective rehab centers are for gambling addicts. A lot of mental torture is done in rehab centers so when someone comes out of rehab they are almost half crazy. Because of this, many people do not like rehab.  And I don't think rehab is necessary for gambling addicts. Strict family supervision is sufficient for this

A gambling addict is quite in a deeper stage of addiction compared to a drug addict. But they're close to being similar in form of the processes one may get addicted participating in these activities. Attaching a gambling addict to a rehab center meant for healing drug addicts, he could get better due to the absence of his gadgets. Within the period he's on rehab, he wouldn't gamble, it will easily allow the person to get used to some other activities like sports, research, reading and writing. Both addictions are mentally connected, hence the rehab can be useful in reviving a gambling addict, before he gets to therapy. Don't know about the torture, rehab should be a peaceful and quiet environment for addicted people.

[boty]

As the gambling expert in the rehab center, I would stress how important it is to understand the patient's current position and how their gambling is hurting them. It's important to note that the idea of a good game system is hard to come by because the odds are always in favor of the house. To get the patient to change his mind, I would stress how unpredictable gambling results are and how likely it is that he will lose money in the long run. In addition, I would tell them to look into other activities that will make them happy and keep their mind off of their compulsive desire to bet. It's important to help the patient get a realistic picture of the risks of gambling and picture a healthier, more balanced life without depending on the random outcomes of games of chance.

Rehab centers are known as drug addiction treatment centers and provide treatment to drug addicts.  However, no one can guarantee how effective rehab centers are for gambling addicts. A lot of mental torture is done in rehab centers so when someone comes out of rehab they are almost half crazy. Because of this, many people do not like rehab.  And I don't think rehab is necessary for gambling addicts. Strict family supervision is sufficient for this

Indeed, no one can guarantee that they won't return to the habits they did after leaving rehabilitation, only they themselves can change them so that they don't return to habits that are not good for themselves. If they want to change themselves for the better, of course they They have to try on their own and it would be better if their family members supported them, of course this would really help them, but if they themselves don't want to change for the better then even with rehabilitation they will keep doing it again.

[radjie]

It's a good topic but it's also a difficult topic to talk about because the advice of doctors is more important in these things. I think group therapy can have a calming effect on these people. Being in a group that has the same impulses as us makes us feel that we are not alone. Also, the motivating words of the people there have a bigger impact on us. Medication would be the last thing I would recommend, because with medication we may get them out of gambling addiction, but we make them drug addicted.

Yes but regarding the ease or difficulty of overcoming addiction it also depends on how severe the condition of addiction they are experiencing and also on the other hand in my opinion there really must be openness from patients to doctors or experts, they must really bring out all the problems and tell everything in detail so that doctors / experts can find formulas or drugs in any form that is in accordance with what is needed, because on the other hand it is not uncommon for me to see failures in overcoming gambling addiction simply because patients are not serious about getting well, meaning that they are not open with all the addiction problems they suffer so that doctors have difficulty finding the right formula which ultimately has no effect and does not produce changes.

So the point is that in terms of the healing process from gambling addiction, it really requires a good combination between the doctor / expert and the patient who wants to be treated, everything can run smoothly if they are open to each other and create good comfort in the healing process.

Someone who is a gambling addict will certainly be more open when he feels confident that he can get rid of his bad habit.  When they visit a rehabilitation clinic, of course they will have a strong belief that they can change everything.  All problems must be disclosed to experts, in essence there should be no coercion from anyone to change themselves except on the basis of their own beliefs.

[Weawant]

It can be difficult to root it out with real statistics. It is not guaranteed that all professional gamblers will provide their expertise like a doctor. Risk management should evaluate the patient's activities in a holistic manner. Gambling is a platform where aggrieved gamblers do not want to listen to experts and indulge in their own addiction. A clinic doctor if treating a gambler will try to convince him psychologically first. If you are mentally healthy less chaos will be created.

Aggrieved gamblers are mostly found of doing that which you did mentioned which is not wanting to listen to any one except they have been able to satisfy their desire or probably they have gotten to the point of unbearable loss then they would want to listen to only solution to their problem and anything outside a direct solution to what they are been aggrieved about they may not listen.

The engaged in selective listening ,they choose what they want to hear and if it's not that which they want to hear they will just not bother regardless of what is been told them. This makes helping some of these gamblers becomes more difficult than it should have because they just wan to get back at their loses by winning back from the casino more like a revenge gambling and that's the point where they even loose more because they no longer make rational decisions rather they just want to gamble to win.

[Julien_Olynpic]

We, of course, do not know and most likely will never know the statistics of successful treatment of patients addicted to gambling. But I not only admit that many are cured, but I have also observed it many times. But this is a question of whether there are former drug addicts or not. After all, it is enough for some kind of stress to occur in a person’s life and the person will fall ill with his disease again. I would call successful cases of healing “controlled addiction.” I first saw this term in an interview with Ingvar Kamprad, the founder of IKEA. He said he had “controlled alcoholism.”