Mental rehabilitation clinic.

[angrybirdy]

Getting helped for gambling addictions is one thing that comes with a lot of resistance and confrontation from the addict himself, and for that, if you want to help anyone in terms of help, it becomes very important to take note of the individual willingness to get helped from that addictions.


Because if the addict himself is not willing to get treated, it will becomes impossible for him to get treated even if there is a formal treatment clinic for his case, this is because he will develop a resistance against that treatment, but if he knows the effects of his addictions on his overall well being, he will then learn to adjust inline with the treatment so it an individual thing before third party help.

The majority of addicted gamblers are vengeful because they want to reverse their losses and also greedy because they want to win again even though they have already won. We must know that gambling addicts are not good, and should be avoided because negative things will impact us and become financially negative.

Even if you are already a gambling addict, I don't think you need to go to a clinic, doctor, and so on. You only need to get closer to your closest family and the environment around you because this way people can usually treat addiction, because there is no doctor's prescription for addiction, but to treat it there must be support from family and people you love.

Gambling addicts are indeed influential but it's up to you if you want to become like them, actually you don't have to totally avoid them as if they have contagious disease because what they have is improper thinking and uncontrollable mindset about their spending in gambling. If you are having an addiction, one way to know how to treat yourself is by consulting professionals because they are the one who knows what will you do or what medicines you need to take, I understand that some people doesn't have enough money for consultation that's why I agree with you that a Gambling addict patient should have to be close to their family members and get a verbal and emotional support.  

[qwertyup23]

Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?

This can be quite difficult without the use of any pharmacology.

Addiction is most likely caused by some mental disorder that disrupts the balance of satisfaction in the brain. Most likely, the dopamine and adrenaline that the gambler feels hungers him causing him to look for it consistently. I do mostly think that the use of pharmacology is essential and mandatory- at least for this aspect.

       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Given the task at hand, it is definitely recommended to explain the fundamentals and basics. It is also essential that the gambler must know statistics of gamblers who have profited vs who have lost that costed them their lives and their families.

With that as the foundation of my argument, the next step would be to recommend other activities that may stimulate the brain without the need to do any sort of gambling. I will recommend doing other extra-curricular activities (e.g. jogging, working out, etc.) in order to at least help them to be busy.

[chaser15]

Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I think that question is irrelevant to ask here. Even let's say we are gambling experts here, dealing on how to help others to stop being addicted to gambling is out of our field and it's not our business anymore to be involved on that. If you really need an accurate answer, you can seek answer directly at the gambling rehabilitation center and they might gave you some previous of the process they are doing to deal with their patients.

It's not as simple as asking these addicted gamblers to do something.

The person who specialized at handling addicted gamblers will give you the best response.

[Dewi Aries]

Getting helped for gambling addictions is one thing that comes with a lot of resistance and confrontation from the addict himself, and for that, if you want to help anyone in terms of help, it becomes very important to take note of the individual willingness to get helped from that addictions.


Because if the addict himself is not willing to get treated, it will becomes impossible for him to get treated even if there is a formal treatment clinic for his case, this is because he will develop a resistance against that treatment, but if he knows the effects of his addictions on his overall well being, he will then learn to adjust inline with the treatment so it an individual thing before third party help.

The majority of addicted gamblers are vengeful because they want to reverse their losses and also greedy because they want to win again even though they have already won. We must know that gambling addicts are not good, and should be avoided because negative things will impact us and become financially negative.

Even if you are already a gambling addict, I don't think you need to go to a clinic, doctor, and so on. You only need to get closer to your closest family and the environment around you because this way people can usually treat addiction, because there is no doctor's prescription for addiction, but to treat it there must be support from family and people you love.

Yes your statement has a point to this problem, all of this stems from their inability to accept the risk of losing at the beginning of their involvement in gambling and in addition to having a personality easily provoked by things that can upset them which in the end they act out of control such as chasing defeat to break even, This is a wrong idea and not recommended, those who chase defeat are someone who does not understand what gambling is really about, most likely they come only because they are tempted by the chances of winning so that they rule out the possibility of risks that clearly have a higher percentage than the chances of winning which happens in the end they enter the addiction phase.

Not everyone knows that addiction can come without them realizing it, and this is also one of the reasons why people don't accept being called an addicted gambler, they don't admit that their approach to gambling is wrong and too much, as I said above that this is because addiction can come without you realizing it. On the other hand, it is also true that a more effective way to overcome gambling addiction is to seek help from the closest people such as family or maybe a girlfriend or boyfriend, basically people who have a close relationship with the addict because usually people will be able to appreciate some advice if it comes from people they care about, and this has the potential to restore his consciousness because to get out of addiction requires recognition and willingness from the gambler himself if he wants to succeed.

[Shamm]

They always deny it, they always justify the bad things they do. So it's quite a hassle to deal with someone like this, let alone trying to wake him up. Because his addiction and love for gambling had blinded his mind and heart to the truth that other people were trying to convey to him. And if we don't have enough patience, maybe when we try to give someone advice, everything will end in a fight. And I personally don't have enough patience to deal with people like that and for me to face someone who behaves like that, it would just be a waste of my time. because they are one of the hardest people to remind, they are one of the hardest people to advise and they are one of the people who just want to feel right about themselves.

Agree with this mate and yes we all know that some gambling addict is very high and sometimes even we talk to them they got angry 👿 so there's a chance that conversation will end up to fight once those gambling addict don't help himself to move on and leave gambling then there's a chance that they will get angry with those person who are actually do something in order to help them.

[Rabata]

Assembling the answer of the mentioned questions is certainly not easy. If someone who is addicted to gambling asks me that he wants to change his luck in gambling then I can argue to him that there are many gamblers like you who all want to change their luck then can everyone change their luck through gambling? Of course he won't answer. I can question him because not everyone will be rich because not everyone will hit the jackpot and not everyone will be rich. So we should not spend money here which if lost affects our personal life. If I were an expert I would try to say these words, but I doubt if these words will be able to change anyone's gambling addiction.

[Accardo]

Getting helped for gambling addictions is one thing that comes with a lot of resistance and confrontation from the addict himself, and for that, if you want to help anyone in terms of help, it becomes very important to take note of the individual willingness to get helped from that addictions.


Because if the addict himself is not willing to get treated, it will becomes impossible for him to get treated even if there is a formal treatment clinic for his case, this is because he will develop a resistance against that treatment, but if he knows the effects of his addictions on his overall well being, he will then learn to adjust inline with the treatment so it an individual thing before third party help.

Gambling addicts are indeed influential but it's up to you if you want to become like them, actually you don't have to totally avoid them as if they have contagious disease because what they have is improper thinking and uncontrollable mindset about their spending in gambling. If you are having an addiction, one way to know how to treat yourself is by consulting professionals because they are the one who knows what will you do or what medicines you need to take, I understand that some people doesn't have enough money for consultation that's why I agree with you that a Gambling addict patient should have to be close to their family members and get a verbal and emotional support.  

Addicts may be influential to people who listen and spend time with them, it's not their task to change an addict. An addict may not be able to influence a person who wants to help them, especially when the addict is willing to stop gambling compulsively. The trouble we have is the reaction of people towards addicts, that doesn't mean we are supposed to avoid them or not associate with the likes of addicts, but getting carried away by their conversations and not being effective with our responses can cause delays in the healing of the addict. Hence our active participation is required in converting the person's lifestyle and create a better thinking avenue in the brain of the person, to relieve himself from too many gambling thoughts. In a scenario where the addict doesn't have people close by to take good care of him, he'd need to revisit his parents or loved ones to handle his problems.

Nobody will ever be so real like those loved ones who really care. The only dispute could be that the addict wouldn't have the zeal to go back home for his treatments. People in that psychological problem, hardly accept that help could come from family or friends. The need to check up on them is better, than waiting for the addict to take action before we help. At that stage of addiction, he could be a dip trouble and may not be able to make good decisions on his own. However, their actions may not correspond with ours, but approaching them begins the healing process faster than waiting for their change of mind. Before helping them. What if the person doesn't want to change, but we are passing through hard times living with the person. It'll be of no good, to stay calm waiting until he decides to change.

[Kavelj22]

I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

As far as I'm concerned, whenever a person is Treated with this, it is because basically things are going to be focused on a different type of treatment, that is, when they are in this type of Addiction, the first step is not to slander them, It can take away the anxiety they have, but how do they Get rid of it? with sleep treatments, that is, they put them to sleep for many hours until the person achieves total peace, and then if they are talked to so that they can enter their hard Treatment phase , which is basically telling them how they Should Share in a casino , how you Should bet, how you should do so that things do not get out of control , what days you should play, how many hours you should play, or how much money you should spend per day so that it does not affect your daily life, this is often done or done. In that way, of course I assume that this is under a clinic, a psychologist, and many people there to take care of them, because it is like something that they have to manage.

That is why this is so delicate, it is always about doing something about the gambling addiction, which is recommended if the person has all their senses at full capacity, because at any moment they will go off track and start doing things like going to the bathroom. casino, spend money, and you will spend much more, it is logical that you are in an addiction, when people speak to an addict sometimes the words go in one ear and come out the other, it is as if they were not spoken to, then This helps a lot when the so-called "sleep cures" are done , there is nothing like that, the person is as if on another level, the person is calmer, the person rests his mind sometimes that is just what is missing, rest the goal so that everything falls into place, or as I have said in other Messages , try to do sports and get very tired so that the mind feels that it must rest, it is the most logical thing and the most we should focus on doing, otherwise It will be very Difficult to control our addiction.

[TelolettOm]

If you are having an addiction, one way to know how to treat yourself is by consulting professionals because they are the one who knows what will you do or what medicines you need to take, I understand that some people doesn't have enough money for consultation that's why I agree with you that a Gambling addict patient should have to be close to their family members and get a verbal and emotional support.

Sometimes addicts don't know if he is addicted to gambling. In this situation, he can't treat themselves, they will never think to got to the doctors. We need a help from our close people who can remind us. Their role is very necessary, they may know what we don't know. That's why we need to let our close people know about our gambling activities. So, when they realize that we are addiction, they can give helps.

You're right. The supports from close people are very important for addicts. The key to recover from addiction will depend on the close people. If we refuse about the addiction, they will try to ensure us and we can get a treatment from the doctors.

[taufik123]

I have always been interested in reading research in psychology and social sciences, especially those dealing with gambling as a psychological and societal phenomenon. I can conclude that not all centers that care for addicts over a relatively long period of time are effective with high success rates. This conclusion is based on the opinion of experts that the patient should recover in an area of life that includes daily life interactions and not a center that provides suitable conditions for a specific period.

Treatment for addiction in general is a very complex process, especially for the type of “behavioral addiction,” because the rest of the dangerous types of addiction are subject to human chemistry, such as alcohol or drug addiction.

This is closely related to the environment they live in, if no one cares about him in the environment then it will be very difficult to recover.
Addiction due to gambling may be the same when compared to a person's addiction to gaming, both addictions that include interaction, and they are often alone and only play with their gadgets.

These are behavioral addictions that need to be treated morally, not just chemically because they will be cured with support from the environment and provide an understanding that what they are doing is not right.

[panganib999]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

Luckily for gambling it's way easy for you to really get rid of it, especially if you haven't ruined yourself that much just yet. So therapy or rehabilitation are nothing but last ditch effort given to people who are so far gone that the conventional quit cold turkey's just not gonna cut it. And once again, luckily for them the current systems of treatment provided for people with gambling addiction work just as fine, and they don't need any revision or whatever.Plus in my opinion, giving the people who want to change their lives the very thing that ruined it is fucking stupid. There's a reason why people who were once alcoholics swear off alcohol and would never even let a single drop of it fall into their lips. Drug addicts do not get "micro-doses" so they can slowly feel better or whatever. They quit cold turkey.

Gambling's pretty much the same and you shouldn't think of addiction recovery as a gradual process that they shouldn't be shocked with. Matter of fact it's what they should experience first and foremost.

[Julien_Olynpic]

 And once again, luckily for them the current systems of treatment provided for people with gambling addiction work just as fine, and they don't need any revision or whatever.

Are there any statistics on the recovery rate for gambling addicts? Personally, I haven’t even seen such statistics, but I admit that I am poorly informed.
     Additionally, I believe that the very concept of disease and "cure" in gambling is rather poorly defined. I think that many people understand by “cure” only the case when the patient only began to control his behavior better or a little better. But the addiction, that is, the attraction to games most likely remains on a subconscious level in patients, because clinics do not treat this. And this, in fact, is a disease.

There's a reason why people who were once alcoholics swear off alcohol and would never even let a single drop of it fall into their lips. Drug addicts do not get "micro-doses" so they can slowly feel better or whatever. They quit cold turkey.

In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

[Findingnemo]

There's a reason why people who were once alcoholics swear off alcohol and would never even let a single drop of it fall into their lips. Drug addicts do not get "micro-doses" so they can slowly feel better or whatever. They quit cold turkey.

In fact, this is a very complex problem that everyone is trying to simplify. Many people believe that if an alcoholic does not drink, then he has recovered from alcoholism. I don't think so. Drinking alcohol (or gambling for money) is just one method of solving deeper problems. In modern clinics, for the most part, these problems are not treated or even diagnosed. The man stopped drinking alcohol, but instead turned to gluttony. Can we say that he was cured? The clinic will say that he is cured, I will say that he is not. He simply changed the way he (ineffectively) solved his problems.

I would say he solved the problem which is what the definition of cure. People who quit cold turkey have high chances of getting into it again and it can happen even after a long wait unless they have a strong reason to avoid it forever. Usually, it requires one form of new addiction to get rid of an existing one so as long as the one he quits is more severe than coming one that is acceptable that is why some drug addicts who successfully recover from it will become hardcore athletes and its good addiction.

[Juse14]

They always deny it, they always justify the bad things they do. So it's quite a hassle to deal with someone like this, let alone trying to wake him up. Because his addiction and love for gambling had blinded his mind and heart to the truth that other people were trying to convey to him. And if we don't have enough patience, maybe when we try to give someone advice, everything will end in a fight. And I personally don't have enough patience to deal with people like that and for me to face someone who behaves like that, it would just be a waste of my time. because they are one of the hardest people to remind, they are one of the hardest people to advise and they are one of the people who just want to feel right about themselves.

Agree with this mate and yes we all know that some gambling addict is very high and sometimes even we talk to them they got angry 👿 so there's a chance that conversation will end up to fight once those gambling addict don't help himself to move on and leave gambling then there's a chance that they will get angry with those person who are actually do something in order to help them.

It seems like you have also encountered and tried to advise someone who has a gambling addiction. Dealing with people like this is quite difficult, especially if they don't have the desire to be aware of their bad behavior in gambling. Because for someone to recover from their gambling addiction, it depends on the addict's own motivation and commitment. If they don't have these two things, then forever they will remain in the gloomy valley that exists in gambling. because someone who is addicted to gambling is like someone who has entered and is in a labyrinth, it is easy to find the way in, but it is difficult to find the way out, you want to forget the way home, you want to continue without knowing the way.

And helping someone who is addicted to gambling is like a fierce dog that is trapped. "If you leave it like that, it will make you feel sorry to see it. But if you help it, the dog will end up biting you."

[alegotardo]

Imagine that there is such a rehabilitation clinic for people who are addicted to gambling. Now imagine what they treat there without the use of pharmacology.
    The main doctors there are gambling specialists, whose task is to convince you that you do not need to gamble. Your task, for example, is to prove that the patient most likely has a disordered game. In order to have long-term income, you need to have a gaming system. And not just a system, but a fairly innovative system of forecasting and risk management. Most likely the patient does not have it and never had it; otherwise he would have been successful and would not have ended up in rehab.
    It is also necessary to find something for the patient to do instead of playing, so that he can occupy himself.
Now imagine that this gambling expert is you. What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?
       Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

I'm not a psychiatrist either, but I believe that just a good idea or concept will not help an addict.

In these rehabilitation clinics, professionals need to use different methods to have some success with the patient and this primarily includes the lack of access to gambling, whether physical or online, participation in stimulating activities for the brain and body, diverting attention from the addiction, and this includes physical activities and hobbies.

I believe that it is possible to carry out treatment using medication if the addicted person is really aware of their problems and has the desire to stop gambling, otherwise I think that the use of medication is essential to help control the person's hormones and put her in an easier mental state to accept treatment.

[OGsmall]

What arguments will you give? What will you tell the patient about?

I am not a doctor and I do not know how gambling addicts are treated. Even if I know some, I can not be better like those that are specialized in the area.

Please note that the patient will resist to the last. He will give counterarguments. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You will let him know how foolish he is. But not telling him he is foolish and not telling him what can make him angry. You can all see what gambling does to addicts. I will try to use that to convince him with true life stories of some addicts.

OP I’m sorry to ask are there people who are in the hospital just for too much of gambling??  I am really worrying how they talk about betting a lot that mean all they think all the time is how to play or bet game to win,what a world!!
Well back to what OP have said yes if I was the doctor I will let him no how foolish he is and tell him sorry real life story about addicts that are worse than his only for example a man who sold his homes and his two expensive cars just to bet a game and the did win at that moment the man ran mad at that moment…… you let them no how betting can hit up with then in the future…

[darkangel11]

A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?

[GxSTxV]

. For example, that he will get rich in the future, he’s just not lucky yet.
    What other arguments do you think the patient will give? How do you respond to these arguments of his?

You only need to be logical when answering the patient, if he telling me that gambling may make him rich in the future, the perfect answer to this is giving him stats of the people who got rich while gambling compared to all the gamblers who have lost so much and got poor.
First treatment for these patients will be convincing them that gambling irresponsibly is a sickness and can ruin their lives. Knowing that most addicts already knows how bad gambling addiction is, the issue is not about that but how to convince them to not gamble again. Because their problem here is like drug users chasing that dopamine feeling or adrenaline rush, all aware of the bad side effects coming with it.

A rehabilitation clinic will receive mostly patients that are already convinced of how bad gambling is and not the opposite, gamblers who still believe that they can get rich or win one day with much hope they wouldn’t accept to get treated, instead they will find any way to get more money to waste.

[swogerino]

A lot of imagining in this thread. We're to imagine that we're specialists, gambling experts, that we have a patient who we have to convince, that the patient is stubborn, we have to imagine what we'll tell him and how he will respond... Please, this is just ridiculous.
I have no idea what he'd say to me and how I'd react to that, but if I were to convince a random stranger that gambling is bad for him, I'd first try to get to know him. I'd have to understand why he's gambling, what he's trying to achieve, if it's compulsive, or a way to kill time... I'd try to know his background, how much money he spends, what his family thinks about it and all that. You have to work out a connection with the patient first before you start advising him. You don't ant to hit the wrong nerve from the beginning and make him hate you, right?

Luckily the mental illness cases are very few in the gambling zone,usually gamblers end ruined up and they don't suffer from such illness in most cases,of course there maybe such isolated cases anyway there are few.Most people luckily realize when they have overcome their limit and cannot continue anymore,they ask for help from friends and parents first and then into rehab centers,most of people who have a true intention of leaving gambling usually achieve it with great success.I don't think that a mental rehab clinic would be necessary,as a doctor who were treating these type of person said in a psycho hospital,he said to relatives visiting their beloved ones and not standing their emotions,crying from what they see,the doctor calmed them by telling about such mental ill persons,to leave them as they are happy in their mind and imagination.