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January 30, 2024, 07:11:38 PM
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You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

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January 30, 2024, 07:18:46 PM
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First of all, if it had been possible I'd have ended the addiction before it started, giving good advice and raising his/her curiosity about how gambling really works and why it is not a good idea to lose control in the quest for that great jackpot thad doesn't depend on how much money you stake or how hard you try.

If it was too late, I'm not any specialist, so I'd try to find a good one myself and ask him/her for advice about how to proceed before making things even worse.

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January 30, 2024, 07:57:04 PM
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I would choose neither because there is a 3rd option which I feel is even better than those two options and that is taking him/her to a psychologist/gambling addiction group who could help in a big way.

Most people don't easily listen to their family members which is why a third person perspective helps in such cases.

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January 30, 2024, 08:07:19 PM
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The only method I could easily introduce or suggest was to make abstenance for some time until he's being able to regain back himself to gambling responsibly, this may have to include cutting away every means that could allow him ha e access to gambling which may involve money and any nearby casinos including online ones, then he must also be ready and willing to see the change take effect on his life.



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January 30, 2024, 08:11:56 PM
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I would choose neither because there is a 3rd option which I feel is even better than those two options and that is taking him/her to a psychologist/gambling addiction group who could help in a big way.

Most people don't easily listen to their family members which is why a third person perspective helps in such cases.

This could be right because familiar faces will not have much effect to the addict who is going to be needing help and moreover, the psychologist is a professional who knows the expert ways to handle such issues instead of self medicating the addict. So bringing in a third party who is an expert is going to be more effective than the usual family members that may not be forceful when it is needed like seizing certain things that enables the addict to gamble but a professional would keep to the professional ethics to achieve his or goals and to get paid as they bargain in the contract.

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January 30, 2024, 09:39:54 PM
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1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
I don't wanna sound rude for any reason... I don't even wanna consider the fact that sometimes, I might eventually fall a victim of the consequences of Thier addiction...

I feel anyone would tend to listen more when being spoken politely to; being harsh would only make the person see it as being an intrusion into his privacy and might revolt badly... The case of a different result isn't guaranteed should anyone decide to be calm with them but, it's better to understand that "FIRE CANNOT QUENCH FIRE".

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January 30, 2024, 10:00:05 PM
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Gambling is more than what we see merely please permit to say that there is an extra ordinary power that hovers around gambler which I can call it "gambling addicts power" this force seems to be regularly controlling those who are damn routed into gambling that is when you would see this power manifesting in them at this point whatever you does or try to do is like a gas that is being ignite with liter to flame and explode uncontrollably. Naturally those who are found being addicted should be take to rehabilitation center where they can get their normal sense.


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January 30, 2024, 10:22:45 PM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

An old friend had this problem. Back then, we were naive enough to think we could help him by explaining that it wasn't good and taking the money away from him. However, the addiction and the desire for the kick was so great that he even ended up stealing to get money and was in prison for a short time.

In the end, he underwent several sessions of therapy and as far as I can tell, he is no longer addicted to gambling. What I'm trying to say is that you should seek professional help. Friends or family can only help with difficulty.
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January 30, 2024, 11:04:52 PM
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Having an addicted relative living in your house is not something easy to deal with. I already had an addicted relative in my house and something that was very difficult for us to understand in the early years was that he was addicted and that we needed to give him appropriate treatment, but at that time my naivety was very great to the point that I couldn't reach everyone. the obvious signs that were in front of me, I and other relatives of mine focused on helping him financially and helped him with treatments for physical illnesses he had. We were being very naive, we didn't realize that his real illness was the addiction that needs to be cured very urgently, as he didn't confess that he was addicted and hid it.

I only talked about the physical illnesses he had, so I thought that his only problem was his physical illness and I didn't try to understand why he had those physical illnesses. Years passed and I and all the other members of our family constantly put him in clinics for treatment, until we discovered that he had to be admitted to a clinic for him to cure his addiction, he left the clinic because his sister gave permission for him to leave, that was a big mistake, his sister thought he was being mistreated, while he was being treated well, but as he wanted to leave to continue his addiction, so he lied. When he understood that following his sister's ideas was not good, it was already too late. With this I want to say to everyone the following:

When you have an addicted relative, do not hesitate to use force to place them in an addiction rehabilitation clinic. When I talk about using force, I am referring to going to court so that the court can use the police to take the addicted person to the hospital. You should not avoid violence against other people, you should use the laws and in these cases, addicted people are a great danger to family and friends and even to people on the streets. This is why it is necessary to go to court to force the addicted person to undergo treatment in the hospital

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January 31, 2024, 06:14:19 AM
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If it was too late, I'm not any specialist, so I'd try to find a good one myself and ask him/her for advice about how to proceed before making things even worse.

I would choose neither because there is a 3rd option which I feel is even better than those two options and that is taking him/her to a psychologist/gambling addiction group who could help in a big way.

Most people don't easily listen to their family members which is why a third person perspective helps in such cases.

LOL, that's what I said in the post immediately preceding yours. Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.

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January 31, 2024, 06:40:11 AM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It's really up to the gamblers themselves, you have to take into consideration their mental state and attitude,

1. This is what we called empathetic approach, communication is the key, your should not be not-judgmental but instead uses a open approach and conversation. It allows for a better understanding of their perspective and can be the first step towards seeking help.

2. This is a confrontational approach, but you should approach the person with caution as the harsh approach might have a negative impact to him.

So it's important to recognized that each person situation and personality is very unique. One works for one individual, might not work for another, so it's a case to case basis. A aggressive approach could be detrimental, as usually a gambling addicts doesn't believed in the beginning that they are not addict and so this process might hinder the building of trust and so recovery might take time.
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January 31, 2024, 09:46:47 AM
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What do you think?
Although there is more to solving the addiction problem in gambling, both approaches are good, and in my experience, people, especially parents and family members have used either of the approaches or both and worked, but not in all cases still. Gambling addiction is a powerful addiction since it has to do with money, and that is why it is good we do not position our minds on the money when we start gambling, this will impact a very bad root in our psychology if the care is not taken, and to uproot such will be so difficult. I think that either of the approaches should be used on the person one after the other, and I must say that I have seen that they worked for some people and failed in others. Now, if the two had been used but failed, I think that the next thing is to make sure that you solve the issue from the source.

It might be financial needs that are causing that, so the person must first be settled in that regard before the issue can be resolved, he needs financial freedom. We all need purpose in life and the more there are other means that give the gambler money and also take his time and attention away from it, then it is near time that he will be healthy again and be delivered of the menace. Just continue to advise him after securing a job for him and I know that it will go a long way to help him as this approach has helped many.

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January 31, 2024, 11:00:10 AM
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You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.

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January 31, 2024, 12:04:00 PM
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You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.
They would really be in denial as much as they could until you would be able to caught them on the spot then this is where they would really be making those admission that they are really that addicted.
If ever that ones of the family members who are really that on such condition or situation then as a family member who do loves then it would really be normal that you would really doing your very best
to help them to solve out that gambling problem. Not all would really be that in concern with others situations and conditions but as a family then it would really be that impossible that you could turn back.
Why wont you would really be turning your back into someone who is your family and you do know that he/she's addicted with gambling?

It would really be that impossible that you would really be that too cold hearten on that kind of situation or condition on which even myself would really be
sure that help would really be next on the line once i do able to know such situation.


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January 31, 2024, 12:06:11 PM
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If you really want to help an addict, ensure you engage them with something meaningful, especially something that will fill that gap and fetch them money while they stay away from the number of time that they spend in gambling else they will still fall back into their usual way, always check back on them from time to time to know if their situation is gradually improving ,talk to them and feed their minds with words of encouragement.  

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January 31, 2024, 12:24:18 PM
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If you really want to help an addict, ensure you engage them with something meaningful, especially something that will fill that gap and fetch them money while they stay away from the number of time that they spend in gambling else they will still fall back into their usual way, always check back on them from time to time to know if their situation is gradually improving ,talk to them and feed their minds with words of encouragement.  
Well, this actually sounds like a very stressful venture for a person who it is not his or her profession or area of expertise to help and cure gamblers who are addicted to gambling.
And considering that the world we live in today is getting busier each and every passing day, and so are people in the world also getting busier as well, and I do not doubt about those who will have the money, or means of making money to introduce to the gambler who is addicted so as to get him or her engaged, possibly because I know we have a lot of wealthy persons in the world, but in the area of time, who would have such time to keep check over an addicted gambler , even if he or she is a family member?

Anyways, I am possibly comparing myself to other people out there, maybe there are alot of less busy people than I thought, but still, the best way to help I think is to take such person to a professional who can help them get out and heal from their gambling addiction - though this largely depends on the level of addiction, some that are still mild can easily get away from the addiction by a simple advice from someone the addicted love and respect.

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January 31, 2024, 12:49:19 PM
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It is hard to choose cause it would be different for each person, sometimes being soft and gentle would just get you ignored they would act like they are listening but they aren't really paying attention, on the other side being harsh and straight forward would make them realize how frustrated you are with them.
For me if you already given out some time on being gentle and they would keep on getting back to it, then it is time to be harsh and if they still continue to their addiction, then there is nothing you could do about it.
If they don't want to help their self there is no one else who could help them, no matter what effort you put up it would just go to waste, that is how I see it.
Action speaks louder than words even if they say that they want to change if they don't act it, it is all just words if they really want to change they would start even in small steps.



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Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

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January 31, 2024, 01:06:41 PM
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Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

They also thought that mentally ill people will only goes on psychologist and they continue to be denial about their real condition since for them they are fine but actually they are causing to much damage to people around him especially on his family members that's why its really good for people to know that psychologist or expert is not only for crazy people but rather they can give advice or immediate help for those people experiencing gambling addiction and other more.

If they keep ignoring things and continue on what they are doing for sure they would really make things worse not only for them but also for people around them. So proper acceptance on situation is important so the person affected on gambling addiction can move on and eliminated that on their heads.

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January 31, 2024, 01:40:00 PM
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I will do everything for the family so I will help Him/Her in every possible ways and even to
spend my last penny just to help them leave gambling addiction , actually we in family are intact so I think
this will never happen to us but if by any case that one of the family member will be involve in such a way
then the family is full force to support and find ways to make things better.

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