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February 02, 2024, 07:56:20 AM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.

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February 02, 2024, 08:38:41 AM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

          -   Of course, obviously, the one I choose is no. 1. If it's possible not to be harsh, that's what we should do, and besides, that person is still part of the family. The fact that his own family shows him love can be a tool for him to change; you know what that means.

As they say, good overcomes evil. If he has done something bad for himself, let's still show him a reminder of the love he will feel for the family, of course, when he sees that he will feel of self-shame or realization.

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February 02, 2024, 08:42:49 AM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.

It really depends on addicted person on how they cooperate since if they are in level where they are still controllable then provably they would listen to advice given to them.
But if they are resistant already maybe this approach would never be effective and we could try those methods listed or suggested by people since there's one of those should work since no people would stay addicted if they are properly guided or they see that someone is concern on their welfare.

But any of those will never work since the level of addiction is so high then I guess its time to seek professional help since for sure they have solid solution to help people to get aide on gambling addiction what they are experiencing.

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February 02, 2024, 09:46:05 AM
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Which method will be applied will depend on the situation of the addicted person. No. 2 would not be appropriate to apply as strict with gamblers may make them worse. Not all situations are safe for them if they are highly addicted. They should be well understood that it is not possible to do anything by force. It is better to treat them like a family and understand them about good and bad. It is not right to force anything.

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February 02, 2024, 10:10:44 AM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?
First of all, rip off is not the right term to use because, I think you wanted to say how to get rid of an addict from your family. But I think get rid of is not the best case, how to help an addict is a better one.

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Being harsh will only make that person feel sad and they'll only try to isolate, that will probably lead to suicide or a state of hopelessness but being very kind is not an option too because they won't be able to feel the responsibility on their shoulders and will most likely ignore what you say. You have to be both, kind and harsh, you have to decide the moment when it's better to act kind and when it's better to be harsh. An addict person should feel support and care from you but should also feel the pressure that something is going wrong in their life and they need to fix it ASAP and you are here to supper them.

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February 02, 2024, 10:36:25 AM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.

It really depends on addicted person on how they cooperate since if they are in level where they are still controllable then provably they would listen to advice given to them.
But if they are resistant already maybe this approach would never be effective and we could try those methods listed or suggested by people since there's one of those should work since no people would stay addicted if they are properly guided or they see that someone is concern on their welfare.

But any of those will never work since the level of addiction is so high then I guess its time to seek professional help since for sure they have solid solution to help people to get aide on gambling addiction what they are experiencing.

If there's nothing else that can be done to help the person, seeking for prosfessionals will help to find ways if what type of an approach might work, knowing the classification of that specific addicted person will give an idea to the professional to assess if what kind of treatment is needed.

Though, its still that strong-will coming to that person itself which is needed to help him to achieve goals in removing him from this kind of an issue, with proper ways of helping you will be able to help.

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February 02, 2024, 11:13:15 AM
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As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.
For someone to being a gambling addict is a normal thing and we don't have to keep accusing the person or disrespecting them because of gambling. Sometimes we can keep asking questions of how far the person had been betting and what's there plan in the future.
We can always laugh and spend frequent time with the person. The love only can make the person comes closer and start gisting with us.
It's all about time and with friendship, helping the person gamble healthy without too thinking of what to bet on again.
If i understand the OP right, it isn`t a normal thing for him. Of course i can laugh and sped frequent time with such man, but if it isn`t my mate or my family. And anyway i can agree with you that even in such situation gambling addiction may be ok, if it isn`t a problem for his friends and family. But when it becomes a problem - i think only second way - hard work and total control.


As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.

Getting him a job only might not help him/her from being an addict. Although the job can keep him busy, thereby making him to have less time for gamble. I think talking to him about his addicted problem can go a long way to help him out.
Yes, i agree, and of course we need to control him for a long time. But it can become the first step to change life.

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February 02, 2024, 05:41:46 PM
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Fighting a gambling addiction is quite a complicated process. And if the player is successful - there is not much point in struggling; it is enough just to regulate the amount of time by setting certain limits. If the player is not successful, then it may be necessary to use special psychological help, to exclude the possibility of getting credits, and to strictly limit the amount of money he can lose
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February 02, 2024, 06:40:13 PM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.
You can only try to replace gambling with another source of serotonin/dopamine. Psychological help alone will not help and family members can only indirectly influence the situation. If all else fails, then you just need to quit such a gambling addict.

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 #110

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but the gentle method may work for some others.
The thing is ths, addiction is a personal problem and only the addicts have the sole willpower to get over the addictions and this is why many times even as a close person to the addicts it becomes hard for you to be able to influence them out of their situation, because of that it is better to always allow the addict himself to get to a stage where he already builds the will power to get out of the addictions.

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If you'll be hard on them make sure that they're on the soft side and they aren't emotional and they're on their right mind. Because if you're hard on them and they're also on the hard feelings because the loss that they've made is just fresh then it's not going to click and that might even complicate the situation. And that's why I agree with people that are saying that you should be soft to them.

Being hard on them might push them away from listening to you and they might do the opposite. There are people like that even if you show them your concern, they won't obliged and appreciate it so it's best to approach them nicely because that's what I think they'll remember your advise instead of being harsh on them. They might feel that they're targeted because they're active gamblers.

But those addicted gamblers probably have a different approach when accepting someone's advise and if these guys don't appreciate the soft and harsh advises on them, the real problem is really them and they should see on how these people trying to help them get out of addiction instead of having a bad thought about them for which they don't have any ill intention on them.

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February 02, 2024, 08:57:21 PM
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You can only help those who want to be helped. A gambling addict has to admit that he's an addict and be willing to stop before he can be helped. When he has made a conscious effort to stop them it will be easier to help out.

There's no point in being harsh to an addict. If it was easy for them to not be an addict they would have. It's not easy so you have to be gentle with him.
Being harsh on people is just another way of pushing people far away from you and you can't help a person if the person is far away.
You just have to keep making sure he's loved and not judged. Don't judge them.
This doesn't mean you won't tell them their fuck up to their face. Be honest with them, don't sugarcoat anything, but be gentle. Love them. Love is the only thing that can help. Create trust between the both of you, let the person know you're there for them.

First, they have to be able to admit that they are addicted to gambling, because usually those who are addicted to gambling don't want to admit that they are addicted to gambling. also with them addicted to gambling they will not easily accept advice from others. It's true what you said, they will be easily helped if they admit they are addicted and have their own advice, but if they don't have their own awareness then in my opinion it will be difficult even if they are helped by other people or their closest family.

To be honest, when someone is addicted to gambling, his family will definitely do their best by gently helping him, but as time goes by, if the addict doesn't change, then it is likely that the family will also raise their hand to help him. because I myself am fed up of advising my friend who is addicted to gambling, so now I just let him, let him experience an incident that will make him realize it by himself. After he has his own awareness then maybe advice from other people can be accepted well.

Treating drug addiction is a complex process that requires a variety of methods and techniques. Common methods of treating addiction patients include psychological and behavioral therapy sessions, social and family support, as well as assistance with lifestyle changes and learning strategies to reduce stress and temptations. Health accompaniment is considered one of the basics in the treatment process, and family and friends have an important role in supporting and assisting the patient.
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February 02, 2024, 09:01:29 PM
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I think that talking to them, whether harsh or not about it, is not really going to help them quit. The only way a gambling addict, or in fact any kind of addict, is going to put themselves on the road towards recovery is if she or he wants that. External pressure will do nothing but anger them. Although you should be strict with them. Do not under any circumstances enable them by giving them money for their addiction. Addicts are well known to act irrationally. But that is just human nature.

Some peoples problems are deeper than others. Everyone needs their own style of therapy to heal their wounds.

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February 02, 2024, 09:06:58 PM
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but the gentle method may work for some others.
To thing is ths, addiction is a personal problem and only the addicts have the sole willpower to get over the addictions and this is why many times even as a close person to the addicts it becomes hard for you to be able to influence them out of their situation, because of that it is better to always allow the addict himself to get to a stage where he already builds the will power to get out of the addictions.



Sometimes it is not easy to get out of an addiction problem as it is Believed , or as they say, yes, in part the Person who suffers from the Addiction has to put in his full Effort and will so that his things can see that addiction is a problem that It has to Affect that person and those around them, that one's own will to be cured is essential for that morale to be very high, but in part what must be done is that the people Around them can have a lot to do with it. What they can do for them , forExample a parent who goes to a psychologist can help a person a lot in that sense, not only can sometimes you get out of it, the people who are all the time looking for a way to Overcome this have to have help, sometimes they need someone's push to get out of what they are in , we as People who are intelligent, why should we see the niche of the rpobelma from every point of View , we Know that the will is Something that is must have , but its own to Review Everything that the treatment can generate.

People who are very Addicted lose their self-esteem , lose their security and Sometimes lose Sense of responsibility by indulging in addiction, who knows who is to blame? Is it the casinos fault? No, it's not the fault of the case or the game, that's primarily the addiction because the person allows it to happen, because they don't know how to stop themselves and put the most important things before their life, nor does a person who needs it have to do so much. your money in a casino, because it is something that is not viable, so in this order of ideas things should not be seen in that sense I was able to say that when we are looking for more ways to overcome things, an addicted Person sometimes needs good advice from a friend, good treatment, for the person to Recover psychologically from what they are suffering from, to get back to it,  his confidence and his way of solving problems.


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February 02, 2024, 09:42:32 PM
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Fighting a gambling addiction is quite a complicated process. And if the player is successful - there is not much point in struggling; it is enough just to regulate the amount of time by setting certain limits. If the player is not successful, then it may be necessary to use special psychological help, to exclude the possibility of getting credits, and to strictly limit the amount of money he can lose
Yes regulations is the best point to begin with,  because many times,  why some addicts fails in the attempt to get out of that addictions is the fact that they go all in at once trying to quite at once and this could become counter productive since addiction will always fight back,  but if the addict start by limiting his activities and setting out a formula to follow all the time until he be able to get out of the addictions,  this will most likely help him a lot to have a slow and steady withdrawal process that could be free of residing back to the addictions.

Agree that the fight against addiction is a very big one and at that we need to put everything in place as an individual to help us to make the best form of decisions when it comes to withdrawing from addiction.
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February 02, 2024, 10:18:57 PM
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Sometimes it is not easy to get out of an addiction problem as it is Believed , or as they say, yes, in part the Person who suffers from the Addiction has to put in his full Effort and will so that his things can see that addiction is a problem that It has to Affect that person and those around them, that one's own will to be cured is essential for that morale to be very high, but in part what must be done is that the people Around them can have a lot to do with it. What they can do for them , forExample a parent who goes to a psychologist can help a person a lot in that sense, not only can sometimes you get out of it, the people who are all the time looking for a way to Overcome this have to have help, sometimes they need someone's push to get out of what they are in , we as People who are intelligent, why should we see the niche of the rpobelma from every point of View , we Know that the will is Something that is must have , but its own to Review Everything that the treatment can generate.

People who are very Addicted lose their self-esteem , lose their security and Sometimes lose Sense of responsibility by indulging in addiction, who knows who is to blame? Is it the casinos fault? No, it's not the fault of the case or the game, that's primarily the addiction because the person allows it to happen, because they don't know how to stop themselves and put the most important things before their life, nor does a person who needs it have to do so much. your money in a casino, because it is something that is not viable, so in this order of ideas things should not be seen in that sense I was able to say that when we are looking for more ways to overcome things, an addicted Person sometimes needs good advice from a friend, good treatment, for the person to Recover psychologically from what they are suffering from, to get back to it,  his confidence and his way of solving problems.
It's never easy to get out, and we could even ask a question if there's a choice involved. When people are sick and have fever, we rarely blame them for being sick. Addiction is a sickness as well why would we treat them any different? But finding the blame is what humans tend to do, as they see this an issue with someone doing something wrong from their own free will. You are spot on that treatment is necessary, because these people need help. They obviously can't just snap out of it or they would have already done it. Reasoning addict can be very frustrating because they are not following same rules, and often have delusions of grandeur about their own capabilities and future.

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February 02, 2024, 10:38:46 PM
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When people are sick and have fever, we rarely blame them for being sick. Addiction is a sickness as well why would we treat them any different?
The problem is not in being an addict (sick as you described it) but rather in refusing to acknowledge it and refusing to undergo treatment and taking medicine.
I understand that treating someone harshly or being mad at him may have a counter effect but in some cases you have no other option. It must be the last resort after exhausting all other options, though.

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Yes regulations is the best point to begin with,  because many times,  why some addicts fails in the attempt to get out of that addictions is the fact that they go all in at once trying to quite at once and this could become counter productive since addiction will always fight back,  but if the addict start by limiting his activities and setting out a formula to follow all the time until he be able to get out of the addictions,  this will most likely help him a lot to have a slow and steady withdrawal process that could be free of residing back to the addictions.

Agree that the fight against addiction is a very big one and at that we need to put everything in place as an individual to help us to make the best form of decisions when it comes to withdrawing from addiction.

The most dangerous in terms of regulating gambling addiction is offline casinos. The casino owners specifically create such an atmosphere in which players almost completely forget about caution. Various special substances are used here, as well as a lot of psychological stimuli
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1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Both of the above points suggest that we need to be soft with the gambling addicts and need to convince them politely that gambling addiction is bad and hard for them. The problem here may be that the gamblers won't admit that they are addicted to gambling in the first place and hence it may be hard for us to convivence them to limit gambling activities.


Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

Being hard to the gambling addict can make him further aggressive and if he is the elder member of the house, then this can create more complications. I also agree that telling him softly the cons of gambling is good enough but at the same time, we need to find him activities where he can remain busy and hence not find much time for gambling. Distracting anyone from gambling may not be as easy as it seems.

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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.

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