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Title: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 21, 2014, 07:18:56 PM
Visit us at: www.winc-ev.org

Hello everybody,

most important question first: Why is there a need for another cryptocurrency at all?

One of the main problems in modern society is the gap between the rich and the poor (~700 people own half of all fiat currencies) . On the other hand nearly every community (and nation) in the world has similar problems with low tax income and excessive debt payments. Most cryptocurrencys i know can not solve those issues (~900 people own half of all Bitcoins and with other currencies its nearly the same).

Taking a closer look, those are 2 problems of the same "coin". The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. To induce a fair and easymoney system redistribution should be included inside the currency so inequity becomes obsolete.

Freicoin introduced a monetary system (to cryptocurrencys) that is called demurrage. Other than inflationary or deflationary money the overall money supply stays the same but you pay a small fee each block that is used to pay the miners and fill up the foundation funds. The funds are used to provide matched donations to Non-Profit-Organisations.

But demurrage can be used for very different kind of purposes. Globe which is also a Freicoin clone uses it as a kind of stabilization fund and programmer payment. But in every case there is a constant circulation flow of money towards a given purpose.

Inside Solidar there will is a redistribution of ~20% each year on stored SLRs. 0.002 % goes to the miners while 19.98 % is stored to pay a basic income project.
F.e. when you have 100 coins in your wallet at the beginning of the year, at the end of the year you have ~80 coins left while 0.1% of the coins is used to pay the mining 99.9% will be payed out per basic income. In this way the circulation of money is guaranteed by free money.

The basic income is 10 SLR per month (to register use our facebook solidar bot at: m.me/solidar.winc. The email verification at http://verify.winc-ev.com will be deactivated by the end of May 17').

It is essential to understand that even the rich can not change our monetary system and that we are all supporting usury and war by accepting the fiat currencies as money.

We want to give the World a choice, a choice to end this inhuman system of redistribution (from poor to rich).

Specifcations:

POW: SHA-256
Coins: 20,000,000
Blocktime: 10 min
Block Reward: 3800 (SLR-Fund) 200 (miners) Block halving:
Update: Block Reward: 3960 (WLC-Fund) 40 (miners) Block halving(every ~ 17,5 days; 2500 Blocks).
After that: 20 % pa. demurrage.
Demurrage rate: 20 %
Dependencies: The same like Freicoin (Bitcoin dependencies plus gmp and mpfr)
Basic income payout: Monthly via m.me/solidar.winc
Merged mining: Asap
Update: Merged mining=yes

If you are interested or just want to ask some questions feel free to do so.

For Background information:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEmbXXbvZEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZkQv25uEs


Available exchanges:
https://www.freiexchange.com/market/SDR/BTC

Updated Post: 2017.06.15


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: najzenmajsen on September 21, 2014, 07:19:19 PM
Blocktime: 10 min
lel


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: wisnon on September 21, 2014, 07:20:32 PM
dev, please set the countdown, thank you!


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: Gladimor on September 21, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
Taxes in a legitimate government are used to pay for maintenance of cities, assistance of citizens, and retirement. However, the taxation concept behind "Freicoin" does not benefit anyone, or provides very little benefits to the miners. The only person it benefits is the person receiving the funds- which is you. You may claim that the funds will be donated to charities, but you must realize that donating the taxes to charities will create a constant selling pressure. As I can see, the taxpayment per block is 95%. Ridiculous. So 95% of the block reward will be dumped right back into the market by charities. I don't see a sustainable coin economy here.

Oh, to be bluntly honest, no one likes taxes ;) Why make a cryptocoin revolving around taxes? You bring a quite interesting concept though.


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 21, 2014, 07:42:46 PM
Sorry, the wallet is planned to be uploaded on 03 of October 2014 at 12 pm central European time. In Germany on the third of October (which is the date of german reunion and the end of the cold war) it is planned by alternative media to have a day of truth where media actors report the truth or nothing. Updates will follow.


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: WASPJoe on September 21, 2014, 07:58:36 PM
Sorry, the wallet is planned to be uploaded on 03 of October 2014 at 12 pm central European time. In Germany on the third of October (which is the date of german reunion and the end of the cold war) it is planned by alternative media to have a day of truth where media actors report the truth or nothing. Updates will follow.

rik: let me know if you need any help, you may want to start it as merge-minable (if you do, it'll be merged on my pool)

either way, I'm watching it.

I can review the source (you can remove the genesis block) if you want me to

*EDIT*
if you do go merge-minable, make sure you allow FULL block headers as opposed to just parts of it. FreiCoin's block headers (as well as those you may be interested in merging it) are not the same as bitcoin's (as you're surely aware by now)


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 21, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
Taxes in a legitimate government are used to pay for maintenance of cities, assistance of citizens, and retirement. However, the taxation concept behind "Freicoin" does not benefit anyone, or provides very little benefits to the miners. The only person it benefits is the person receiving the funds- which is you. You may claim that the funds will be donated to charities, but you must realize that donating the taxes to charities will create a constant selling pressure. As I can see, the taxpayment per block is 95%. Ridiculous. So 95% of the block reward will be dumped right back into the market by charities. I don't see a sustainable coin economy here.

Oh, to be bluntly honest, no one likes taxes ;) Why make a cryptocoin revolving around taxes? You bring a quite interesting concept though.

Good point. There are several question that arose here. First: what happens to newly mined Bitcoins. I belive that many of the miners sell it as soon as they are at a acceptable price.

Second: Yes it is me that is "receiving" the funds. An enormous amount of trust is needed to make it work as scamcoins rise at every street corner and there are many ways to loose the funds even if someone is reliable. I cannot answer this question fully but as there will be much work in the future i will need people that help me and control my further work. I already configured cyclos (a mysql based program long before Bitcoin was introduced) to do the same, but it was much harder to find people to support the project and to support the centralized structure.

Third: The sustainable coin economy arises by the acceptance. Convince the Local authorities and the merchants will follow.

Forth: Looked at it under the light cryptocoins are just another payment method like paypal, so just because the community is not too much into taxes (i can understand that point) it is not excluding each other.


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 21, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
Sorry, the wallet is planned to be uploaded on 03 of October 2014 at 12 pm central European time. In Germany on the third of October (which is the date of german reunion and the end of the cold war) it is planned by alternative media to have a day of truth where media actors report the truth or nothing. Updates will follow.

rik: let me know if you need any help, you may want to start it as merge-minable (if you do, it'll be merged on my pool)

either way, I'm watching it.

I can review the source (you can remove the genesis block) if you want me to

*EDIT*
if you do go merge-minable, make sure you allow FULL block headers as opposed to just parts of it. FreiCoin's block headers (as well as those you may be interested in merging it) are not the same as bitcoin's (as you're surely aware by now)

Hi Joe, that would be very nice!

merge mining is a little bit different in Freicoin and i have no doubt that it will take some time but i don't want to wait to publish the coin. Since i will renew the genesisblock anyway the code is at www.github.com/worldleadcurrency/wlc

There are a few important changes i had not uploaded right now.

Best wishes Rik


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: sanbashiyi on September 21, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
seems like bitcoin , but people why need to mine your coin. ::)


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: WASPJoe on September 21, 2014, 08:30:32 PM
Sorry, the wallet is planned to be uploaded on 03 of October 2014 at 12 pm central European time. In Germany on the third of October (which is the date of german reunion and the end of the cold war) it is planned by alternative media to have a day of truth where media actors report the truth or nothing. Updates will follow.

rik: let me know if you need any help, you may want to start it as merge-minable (if you do, it'll be merged on my pool)

either way, I'm watching it.

I can review the source (you can remove the genesis block) if you want me to

*EDIT*
if you do go merge-minable, make sure you allow FULL block headers as opposed to just parts of it. FreiCoin's block headers (as well as those you may be interested in merging it) are not the same as bitcoin's (as you're surely aware by now)

Hi Joe, that would be very nice!

merge mining is a little bit different in Freicoin and i have no doubt that it will take some time but i don't want to wait to publish the coin. Since i will renew the genesisblock anyway the code is at www.github.com/worldleadcurrency/wlc

There are a few important changes i had not uploaded right now.

Best wishes Rik

I can try to give you a hand with some of the merged mining things, probably wont make it in time for your launch, but probably by the time you do go merged.

Do you have someone ready with pool set up or should I get someone to help you get one going for people?


How did you end up building the genesis block? Did you use the python script by maaku or did you do it another way?


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: yampi on September 21, 2014, 08:40:41 PM
Taxes are bad, your coin is bad and you should feel bad.


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: WASPJoe on September 21, 2014, 10:39:10 PM
Taxes are bad, your coin is bad and you should feel bad.
https://freicoin.us/chat/smileys/dontfeedtrolls.gif


Anyway, i think it's pretty cool that you are looking for a solution to problems that are faced every day (how to tax without discrimination).


Enjoying tax or not, we are all taxed (or tariffed in some countries). There is massive corruption in every single governing body and using demurrage solves the issue of taxation well. The only issue is that demurrage is taken off per block and not per time period which would possibly allow malicious users to hold off on mining the coin until their taxes are due and then slam the network to either get taxed less, or get their tax out of the way. (or to mess with someone else who is being taxed). Having proper blocktimes will be a huge factor in success. Merged mining would probably end up negating it, but for a while you may see



BTW, how are you doing charity applications etc? (singular foundation, one dev, centralized voting mechanism, decentralized voting mechanism)


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: yampi on September 21, 2014, 11:46:03 PM

I was not trolling.
I would have no problem with taxes if they were more like subscriptions.
I would actually consider subscribing to a coin support tax and when the coin gets improved with anon and etc I would be happy to continue the subscription.

Equal taxing is not fair taxing.
For example someone with 200 m/hs generating 500 blocks per month and someone with 100 m/hs generating 250 blocks per month are going to get taxed equally but the person with 200m/hs is going to have more coins after taxation.


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: WASPJoe on September 22, 2014, 02:21:24 AM

I was not trolling.
I would have no problem with taxes if they were more like subscriptions.
I would actually consider subscribing to a coin support tax and when the coin gets improved with anon and etc I would be happy to continue the subscription.

Equal taxing is not fair taxing.
For example someone with 200 m/hs generating 500 blocks per month and someone with 100 m/hs generating 250 blocks per month are going to get taxed equally but the person with 200m/hs is going to have more coins after taxation.
Thank you for taking time to actually make an argument. It's much better to see reasoning behind things, it gives me something to begin to understand the reasoning behind a person's words

I'll disagree with you that equal taxing is not fair, i believe it is.

Also, not everyone holding this coin will be mining. The idea of the coin (as I understand it, and rik tell me if I'm wrong) is to get a working (mostly) decentralized monetary system with taxation but with a finite coin supply to meet the needs of an economy without printing money out of thin air allowing for donations to charities as a means of distribution of wealth beyond just a few people

either way, good discussion. Maybe you can suggest some ways that you can help rik out as well.


This video might be of interest to people wondering about demurrage in general
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0K65v_V8Sg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0K65v_V8Sg)


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on October 02, 2014, 07:33:29 PM
Hi again,

as October the third was just the planned date, i now am convinced that merged mining absolutely necessary to start with. So at the moment i am testing MM because Freicoin has some unique features that have to be taken into account. I keep it updated.

Quote
Also, not everyone holding this coin will be mining. The idea of the coin (as I understand it, and rik tell me if I'm wrong) is to get a working (mostly) decentralized monetary system with taxation but with a finite coin supply to meet the needs of an economy without printing money out of thin air allowing for donations to charities as a means of distribution of wealth beyond just a few people

You are right Joe, but i have to clarify one thing: it is not about charity this coin is a offer for Bitcoin embracing communities to profit directly with a monthly tax payment form crypto curriencies.

See you,
Rik


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: nikl on October 02, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
Hi again,

as October the third was just the planned date, i now am convinced that merged mining absolutely necessary to start with. So at the moment i am testing MM because Freicoin has some unique features that have to be taken into account. I keep it updated.

Quote
Also, not everyone holding this coin will be mining. The idea of the coin (as I understand it, and rik tell me if I'm wrong) is to get a working (mostly) decentralized monetary system with taxation but with a finite coin supply to meet the needs of an economy without printing money out of thin air allowing for donations to charities as a means of distribution of wealth beyond just a few people

You are right Joe, but i have to clarify one thing: it is not about charity this coin is a offer for Bitcoin embracing communities to profit directly with a monthly tax payment form crypto curriencies.

See you,
Rik


Will it launch tomorrow or not?


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: dezoel on October 02, 2014, 07:42:45 PM
will launch or not??

when? ???


Title: Re: pre [ANN] Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on October 04, 2014, 07:39:18 PM
As i am testing merged mining right now i can not say, when i will start it. But i will announce it early enough in this thread, sorry for the delay. I first wanted to start it without Merged mining, but as you know it could mean too much trouble for the security of the chain.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on November 08, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
Hello world,

merged mining is implemented and tested and everything works fine. I have to do a few adjustments still, so i set the new starting date to 30th of November 2014 at 12 pm central European time (Remember remember the 30th of November ;)).

The Windows-wallet and the source-code will be available here:

http://worldcurrency.jimdo.com/downloads/ (http://worldcurrency.jimdo.com/downloads/)

Many greeting Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: Arcurus on December 19, 2014, 05:59:21 PM
Hi Rik,
how is it going?

Can I find somewhere more information how the coins will be distributed?

All the good,
Arcurus


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on December 20, 2014, 08:47:12 PM
Hi Acurus,

i am fine so far. I hope you are too?

The WLC fund will be handled by the WINC e.V. which is a non-profit association. The fund will be shared by it and it will overlook also the WLC-core program. A short summary how the fund will be distributed can be fund at the end of this page:
worldcurrency.jimdo.com/sign-up

As it is very hard for small initiatives to get the signing of a local authority (Major/President) in the beginning small citizens' initiatives within bigger citys can apply for the whole city. Here it is important that these citizens' initiatives follow a common welfare goal or spreading cryptocyrrencies (for example Bitcion island initiave or the Bitcoin-mile in Hannover). However the applying initiatives will be reviewed for at least two month.

It might sound a little complicated but in principle the system tries to assure that everybody in the participating communities is supplied with a fair amount of money.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on April 02, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Update:

I received the confirmation that Winc e.V. is now registered in the german handelsregister.de and an official association from now on. It will take care of the WLC fund and the monthly payout to partner organisations.

The official Homepage can be found here:

www.winc-ev.org

Many greetings.
Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: yampi on April 02, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
Why hold WLC at all, people will be dumping it to avoid taxation.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on April 02, 2015, 06:12:22 PM
Well the aim is for people to realize that dumping brings one time profit but acceptance and spending it for their needs brings every month profit.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on June 19, 2015, 08:37:39 AM
Hello World,

for everybody interested there will be a big conference in Berlin in september (10-13.09 - www.solikon2015.org) and i will be there organising a workshop for using WLC and the corresponding financial and technological backgroud.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on June 30, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Nice to see another merge mined coin, I've been mining it for a while on my p2pool node - it works fine - well done. I do have a question about the bazzilions of decimal places in the balance though:

Code:
getinfo
{
    "version" : 80600,
    "protocolversion" : 70001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : "8206.0083846990987625179393583826274058742443295808063063762878395151934444713440696371475890913416151306591928005218505859375",
    "blocks" : 14974,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 938786.76126016,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1435633098,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : "0.00",
    "errors" : ""
}

Can it be tidied up a notch - or is this by design?  :)

Interesting website too - you've done your homework. Merge mine on!  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on July 03, 2015, 06:32:02 PM
Hi p3yot33at3r,

thank you for your support. As i mentioned i used Freicoin as a template. The big amount of digits is used by Freicoin to calculate the demurrage fee as precise as possible. In the QT-Wallet there are only 8 digits shown, but the rest is always calculated. I think i can change what is shown but it won't change what is there. Do you need it to be hidden?

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on July 03, 2015, 06:47:35 PM
Hi p3yot33at3r,

thank you for your support. As i mentioned i used Freicoin as a template. The big amount of digits is used by Freicoin to calculate the demurrage fee as precise as possible. In the QT-Wallet there are only 8 digits shown, but the rest is always calculated. I think i can change what is shown but it won't change what is there. Do you need it to be hidden?

Rik

Not at all - I was just curious as it's the only coin I merge mine with p2pool that shows so many decimal points. Makes me look richer  :D ;)

A good decision to make the coin merge mineable, well done. The daemon runs really well with a very low resource/memory usage  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on July 19, 2015, 05:24:54 PM
Has anyone had any trouble compiling this coin from source on Ubuntu 14.04?  I've got all the dependencies covered - I've compiled and built who-knows-how-many coin daemons on this and OS X.  However, with this coin I run into problems.  I do the usual:
Code:
make -f makefile.unix

and end up with this:
Code:
g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DOPENSSL_NO_SSL2=1 -I/home/miner/WLC/src -I/home/miner/WLC/src/obj -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/miner/WLC/src/leveldb/include -I/home/miner/WLC/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/db.d -o obj/db.o db.cpp
In file included from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:198:0,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/platform.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/atomic.hpp:17,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic.hpp:12,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/pthread/once_atomic.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/once.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread.hpp:17,
                 from util.h:26,
                 from bignum.h:21,
                 from main.h:8,
                 from db.h:8,
                 from db.cpp:6:
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:396:13: error: ‘ptrdiff_t’ does not name a type
     typedef ptrdiff_t difference_type;
             ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:452:26: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     value_type fetch_add(difference_type v, memory_order /*order*/ = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile BOOST_NOEXCEPT
                          ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:461:26: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     value_type fetch_sub(difference_type v, memory_order /*order*/ = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile
                          ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:476:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:476:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:488:13: error: ‘ptrdiff_t’ does not name a type
     typedef ptrdiff_t difference_type;
             ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:551:26: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     value_type fetch_add(difference_type v, memory_order /*order*/ = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile BOOST_NOEXCEPT
                          ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:562:26: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     value_type fetch_sub(difference_type v, memory_order /*order*/ = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile
                          ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:573:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_VOID_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/base.hpp:573:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_VOID_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
In file included from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/platform.hpp:20:0,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/atomic.hpp:17,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic.hpp:12,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/pthread/once_atomic.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/once.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread.hpp:17,
                 from util.h:26,
                 from bignum.h:21,
                 from main.h:8,
                 from db.h:8,
                 from db.cpp:6:
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1025:13: error: ‘ptrdiff_t’ does not name a type
     typedef ptrdiff_t difference_type;
             ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1094:15: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     fetch_add(difference_type v, memory_order order = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile BOOST_NOEXCEPT
               ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1106:15: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     fetch_sub(difference_type v, memory_order order = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile BOOST_NOEXCEPT
               ^
In file included from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:198:0,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/platform.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/atomic.hpp:17,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic.hpp:12,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/pthread/once_atomic.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/once.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread.hpp:17,
                 from util.h:26,
                 from bignum.h:21,
                 from main.h:8,
                 from db.h:8,
                 from db.cpp:6:
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1111:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_VOID_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1111:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_VOID_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
In file included from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/platform.hpp:20:0,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/atomic.hpp:17,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic.hpp:12,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/pthread/once_atomic.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/once.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread.hpp:17,
                 from util.h:26,
                 from bignum.h:21,
                 from main.h:8,
                 from db.h:8,
                 from db.cpp:6:
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1123:13: error: ‘ptrdiff_t’ does not name a type
     typedef ptrdiff_t difference_type;
             ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1193:15: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     fetch_add(difference_type v, memory_order order = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile BOOST_NOEXCEPT
               ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1206:15: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     fetch_sub(difference_type v, memory_order order = memory_order_seq_cst) volatile BOOST_NOEXCEPT
               ^
In file included from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:198:0,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/platform.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic/atomic.hpp:17,
                 from /usr/include/boost/atomic.hpp:12,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/pthread/once_atomic.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread/once.hpp:20,
                 from /usr/include/boost/thread.hpp:17,
                 from util.h:26,
                 from bignum.h:21,
                 from main.h:8,
                 from db.h:8,
                 from db.cpp:6:
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1217:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
/usr/include/boost/atomic/detail/gcc-x86.hpp:1217:5: error: ‘difference_type’ has not been declared
     BOOST_ATOMIC_DECLARE_POINTER_OPERATORS
     ^
make: *** [obj/db.o] Error 1

I initially thought I might be missing some boost libraries, but confirmed that all are properly installed:
Code:
apt-get install libboost-dev libboost-system-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
libboost-dev is already the newest version.
libboost-dev set to manually installed.
libboost-filesystem-dev is already the newest version.
libboost-filesystem-dev set to manually installed.
libboost-program-options-dev is already the newest version.
libboost-program-options-dev set to manually installed.
libboost-system-dev is already the newest version.
libboost-system-dev set to manually installed.
libboost-thread-dev is already the newest version.
libboost-thread-dev set to manually installed.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on July 19, 2015, 05:36:28 PM
I think you're missing libgmp-dev & libmpfr-dev JB:

https://github.com/WorldLeadCurrency/WLC/blob/master/doc/build-unix.md

That should do it  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on July 19, 2015, 07:18:20 PM
Hi jonnybravo0311,

i think p3yot33at3r is right. I compiled it on various systems (last was on lubuntu) and it works fine with the additional dependencies installed.


Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on July 19, 2015, 07:49:56 PM
Thanks both for your replies, but that's not the case.  I had installed the dependencies prior to compiling the code.  Just to confirm:
Code:
apt-get install libgmp-dev libmpfr-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
libgmp-dev is already the newest version.
libmpfr-dev is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on July 19, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
Thanks both for your replies, but that's not the case.  I had installed the dependencies prior to compiling the code.  Just to confirm:
Code:
apt-get install libgmp-dev libmpfr-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
libgmp-dev is already the newest version.
libmpfr-dev is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Hi Johnnybravo0311,

maybe there is something else missing (or another version)?

can you check please if:

sudo apt-get install build-essential libboost-all-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libdb5.1-dev libdb5.1++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libmpfr-dev libgmp3-dev

are installed?

What abou the manually installed messages, maybe this is problematic?

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on July 19, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
Hmmm....I didn't use libdb5.1-dev libdb5.1++-dev - I used 4.8 instead, as I do with all my wallets. Maybe try with that instead?

It compiled fine on both 32bit & 64bit Xubuntu for me  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on July 19, 2015, 09:31:02 PM
I'm using db4.8... as virtually every wallet uses this version and not the later ones.

Manual install just means they are marked as manually installed in the sources list.  There's a pretty good explanation of what it means here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/831/what-does-it-mean-that-a-package-is-set-to-manually-installed

It might be the version of glibc I'm using... I'm looking into this avenue.

edit: spelling :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on July 19, 2015, 09:38:46 PM
It might be the version of glibc I'm using... I'm looking into this avenue.

Ah yeah, I remember you installed a funky version of that while trying to get the relaynetworkclient running - I never installed it, so there's a good chance that's the cause of the problem......


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on July 19, 2015, 09:42:45 PM
I found my problem.  I had to edit the following files:

util.h
bignum.h
main.h
db.h
db.cpp

with the following:
Code:
#include <cstddef>

Later versions of glibc change the way things are done (including macro definitions).  Including the standard C definitions cleared up the problem.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on July 19, 2015, 10:03:38 PM
Good man JB  :)

Is this the only wallet you've had to do this with?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on July 19, 2015, 11:19:29 PM
So far yes.  I've compiled and built quite a few from source on both Ubuntu and OS X.  This was the only one that I've had to change anything for Ubuntu.  I also built UNO and HUC from source today without any edits.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on July 20, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
I'm using db4.8... as virtually every wallet uses this version and not the later ones.

Manual install just means they are marked as manually installed in the sources list.  There's a pretty good explanation of what it manes here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/831/what-does-it-mean-that-a-package-is-set-to-manually-installed

It might be the version of glibc I'm using... I'm looking into this avenue.

Thank you, i thought that the manually installed packages are maybe not updated correctly or missing something.

This version of GNU library is needed by WLC for calculating the demurrage. So the same problem should occur with freicoin which first introduced this feature.

Thanks for posting the solution i think this could definitively help others too.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on August 31, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
Hello world,

a mobile wallet is online now (http://www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact/). Additionally we added a Blockexplorer for the coin (109.73.173.119:81 (http://109.73.173.119:81)).

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 07, 2015, 11:29:22 AM
Voting is open at www.C-Cex.com many thanks for your voices.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on September 07, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Voted. Good to see some movement happening with this coin  :)

The block explorer link isn't working though.......


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 07, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
Voted. Good to see some movement happening with this coin  :)

The block explorer link isn't working though.......

There is much going on underneath the surface ;-).

Server is down i contacted the support to bring it back online.

Thanks for the vote!

EDIT: Its back online, thanks for the hint.. ..blockexplorer could also be reached under explorer.winc-ev.com.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 11, 2015, 11:24:41 AM
Hello World,

thanks to all miners (p3yot33at3r in particular ;-). We have reached Block 25 000 a few days ago!

This means were in the "stable phase" now. - What is the "stable Phase"?

The stable Phase means we have reached the maximum of 20 000 000 coins. From now on only coins that are degraded by demurrage will be payed as mining reward.

Endless mining rewards without increasing the overall coin amount (no inflation)- the wonder of demurrage ;-)

Many greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on September 11, 2015, 12:24:22 PM
Glad to be involved  :)

I like the demurrage concept, this together with merge mining on a truly decentralized p2pool network provides the stability & security needed for this coin to grow.

Good work  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 23, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
The basic income initiative from Bonn is our first sponsored Partner. They agreed to receive WLC for testing purposes.. So hopefully in the future a basic income in Bonn with WLC is possible.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: stoner19 on September 23, 2015, 03:24:34 PM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 24, 2015, 08:19:06 AM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)

Thank you very much. I will send an information on twitter and in the news on our homepage.


WorldLeadCurrency has won the voting at https://c-cex.com/?id=vote (https://c-cex.com/?id=vote). So hopefully they can handle demurrage and exchange rates are available soon - i keep it updated.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on September 24, 2015, 11:05:28 AM

WorldLeadCurrency has won the voting at https://c-cex.com/?id=vote (https://c-cex.com/?id=vote). So hopefully they can handle demurrage and exchange rates are available soon - i keep it updated.

Greetings Rik

Good news, this coin is moving forwards nicely  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: stoner19 on September 28, 2015, 07:33:48 PM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)

something funky with the code and auxpow, so it's being taking off the pool. no miners anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on September 29, 2015, 01:23:02 PM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)

something funky with the code and auxpow, so it's being taking off the pool. no miners anyway.

Auxpow is working fine with p2pool.... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 30, 2015, 07:43:39 AM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)

something funky with the code and auxpow, so it's being taking off the pool. no miners anyway.

Can you explain a little bit more in detail what the problem is exactly and what setup you use?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: stoner19 on September 30, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)

something funky with the code and auxpow, so it's being taking off the pool. no miners anyway.

Can you explain a little bit more in detail what the problem is exactly and what setup you use?

Its my understanding that forks of freicoin don't work with unomp pool code because of the version 3 blocks. Something about a different block template that hasn't been implemented into UNOMP's code.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on September 30, 2015, 06:13:12 PM
mining pool up for you: http://superninjapool.tk/ (http://superninjapool.tk/)

something funky with the code and auxpow, so it's being taking off the pool. no miners anyway.

Can you explain a little bit more in detail what the problem is exactly and what setup you use?

Its my understanding that forks of freicoin don't work with unomp pool code because of the version 3 blocks. Something about a different block template that hasn't been implemented into UNOMP's code.

Thanks for the explanation. Maybe the problem is that Freicoin forks use RefHeight. This one need to be integrated into the block data. I fixed that for stratum P2Pool and Freicoin as parent. I could try to look into it if you think it is important, but as there is no one mining at the moment it seems better to me to put my time into contacting initiatives and creating more content for the homepage.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on October 07, 2015, 06:18:01 AM
Hello world,

i added a WINC e. V. youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjU17FTh0TqvJNtHrzjN4Hw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjU17FTh0TqvJNtHrzjN4Hw) where i will add some explanatory and background videos the next few month.

Rik

P. S. a very good BBC Radioshow about debt: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b066w659 the essential reason why a demurrage currency is needed.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: upsidedown75 on October 15, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
Could you provide a list of working nodes, please? The wallet synchronization stucks at the moment.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on October 15, 2015, 02:41:42 PM
Could you provide a list of working nodes, please? The wallet synchronization stucks at the moment.

Here's a couple that my wallet are connected to:

91.108.68.164:55889

109.73.173.119:55889

 ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on October 16, 2015, 08:55:38 AM
Anotherone is: 185.38.44.6

If this is not helping please check if your firewall let the wallet connect to the internet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9Xxeihds4

Max Kaiser: "And that programmable money [Blockchain money] can be programmed as you [Stacy Herbert] say to shrink"

Wait.. is he talking about WLC?

"And This is how they [central banks] gonna to support this vast ponzi scheme of unsubstantiated uncollateralized consumerism backed by fear of war and of missing out the next great meme."

Oh ok, he isnt.. sadly he miss the good effects of demurrage.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: upsidedown75 on October 16, 2015, 10:46:23 AM
Thanks you very much. The node list worked for me for now but the synchronization is pretty slow. it needs its time.

Could you provide a list of working nodes, please? The wallet synchronization stucks at the moment.

Here's a couple that my wallet are connected to:

91.108.68.164:55889

109.73.173.119:55889

 ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on October 16, 2015, 10:53:19 AM
Thanks you very much. The node list worked for me for now but the synchronization is pretty slow. it needs its time.

Could you provide a list of working nodes, please? The wallet synchronization stucks at the moment.

Here's a couple that my wallet are connected to:

91.108.68.164:55889

109.73.173.119:55889

 ;)

You're welcome. First sync might be a little slow, but once it's done you'll be flying!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on October 23, 2015, 07:34:49 AM
Hello world,

the party for a human economy is our second sponsored Partner (I am active there too). They agreed to receive WLC for testing purposes. So hopefully in the future in cologne social projects will be funded by wlc.

Second: we are planning to create a webportal as an example for the Rhein-Sieg Kreis/Germany where people can directly get verified for a basic income and handle their payout address.

Stay tuned Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on November 18, 2015, 01:40:10 PM
Hello world,

since most of the organizations that i was in contact with in the last month had mostly just a very basic knowledge of the Blockchaintechnology the WINC e. V. has created a portal where people can directly validate for a basic income in WLC.

For a start the payout is set to 1 WLC per account. This is recommended to equal to 1000 EUR so that 1 mWLC is worth 1 EUR. For anyone interested, the new portal is online at: verify.winc-ev.com.

Many greetings Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on November 19, 2015, 05:32:40 PM
Verification requires a scanned passport? That's a bit.....extreme......I'm not sure there will be many users who are keen on that  :(


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on November 20, 2015, 08:57:38 AM
Hi,

it may sounds a bit extreme, but you have to consider 3 things:

1. All of the Initiatives on site i contacted are so tightly bound to their agenda they are not open for innovative ideas from outside.

2. There is always s choice to make between transparancy or security. If one wants to verify the identity of a counterpart it needs information about it. If you want the people to identify by facebookaccount or twitter it is easily cheatable. To prevent multiple accounts from the same person you need to implement complex structures. Who knows who and is this relationship trusted. Problem here are the people with no connections online. Either way you have to lay open many informations on who you know, your real name has also to be known to the public to verify that it is really you. This is maybe possible but rather something for the future or a group with more resources.

3. So it is always a balance between: how to make it as secure as possible; how to make it as usable as possible; and how could it be implemented with the resources available.

Although i am always open to new ideas. All other ideas that i know at the moment are better at one of these properties throwing both of the other over board.

But- there is a small team at freicoinalliance.com that is diving real deep into the matter. And maybe it will find a better solution. Until then a photo or scan is needed (as mentioned the data is not stored).

Another point:
It is planned to find trusted verifyer that can verify the people on site only sending the anonymus "Verification ID", so the Passport ist not needed to be scanned or digitalized.

And if it will show that this method is not working there is always the possibility to go back to the beginning and support local initiatives. The verification is just an additional option, for those who dont want to wait.

Anyway who is interested in this topic, feel free to join the discussion at freicoinalliance.com

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on November 24, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
Hi p3yot33at3r,

indeed it has shown that using the passport for verification is far to impractical, so we opened up for everyone to register until we find a better fitting solution.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on November 25, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Hi p3yot33at3r,

indeed it has shown that using the passport for verification is far to impractical, so we opened up for everyone to register until we find a better fitting solution.

Rik

Good idea  ;)

Crypto users are a shy lot  :D

Being required to upload personal & privileged documents to an unknown entity pretty much goes against the whole principal of crypto & decentralization IMHO.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: p3yot33at3r on November 25, 2015, 07:45:55 PM
I just tried to register, but am still being asked to send my passport scan via email?

Edit: Wait, just got a second email - no scan required & all went smooth. Nice  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone as tax payment system
Post by: rik8119 on November 28, 2015, 08:02:51 PM
Hi yes,

sorry i edited the account activation email, but had forgotten to adapt the welcome email.  I am thinking about a web-site plus android app. The private keys are stored on the android device and the transaction signing is done with your mobile (like with armory but not offline). All the other less critical functions like calculating balance are done online. This should make the app much faster than the Worldleadcurrencyj

What do you think?

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 03, 2015, 10:10:41 AM
Hello world,

the first basic income was payed on Tuesday. Everybody that did not receive the payment please control first if your WLC-Address is set correct.

For Christmas we plan a small raffle where every registered user with a valid WLC-Address can win 2000 mWLC (5x) or 100 mBTC (1x). So please feel free to spread the word. For more information stay tuned here, look in our news section (www.winc-ev.org/news) or follow us on twitter (www.twitter.com/WINC_ev).

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 03, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
Hello world,

the first basic income was payed on Tuesday. Everybody that did not receive the payment please control first if your WLC-Address is set correct.

For Christmas we plan a small raffle where every registered user with a valid WLC-Address can win 2000 mWLC (5x) or 100 mBTC (1x). So please feel free to spread the word. For more information stay tuned here, look in our news section (www.winc-ev.org/news) or follow us on twitter (www.twitter.com/WINC_ev).

Greetings Rik

First payment received  :)

Nice to see this coin running so smoothly. Good work dev.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: Apriand on December 04, 2015, 03:02:38 PM
How can i get WLC address? I registered but i don't know WLCaddress


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 04, 2015, 03:09:44 PM
How can i get WLC address? I registered but i don't know WLCaddress

Use your WLC wallet address.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 04, 2015, 09:07:57 PM
How can i get WLC address? I registered but i don't know WLCaddress


Hi Apriand,

you can download a windows wallet here: www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact (http://www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact) or you can use the www.Bitaddress.org (http://www.Bitaddress.org) (but be sure to save the private key for later use - so you can access your basic income) site to generate a Wallet address. WLC addresses are like BTC addresses you just CAN'T use Multisign addresses.

greetings Rik


EDIT: I also add a short description at http://verify.winc-ev.com under Verification tab..


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: yampi on December 06, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
This coin is about wealth redistribution and equality but top 1-25 addresses hold 99.95% of the total supply.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 07, 2015, 06:59:31 AM
This coin is about wealth redistribution and equality but top 1-25 addresses hold 99.95% of the total supply.

Thank you for contributing,

99% of the 99.95% is the budget of the WINC association. These coins are ready to be distributed through the basic income project. Only 1% of all coins are given to miners. If you want to test the basic income sign up at http://verify.winc-ev.com, wait for the activation email and set your payout address under "my account" to receive a basic income in WLC.

greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 09, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: yampi on December 09, 2015, 04:19:25 PM
First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

Am I failing maths or are they seriously pricing 1 WLC at 866~ dollars?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 09, 2015, 05:36:33 PM
First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

Am I failing maths or are they seriously pricing 1 WLC at 866~ dollars?

When you see money as a agreement and you also agree that a basic income should cover the basic living costs than a monthly income of 1 WLC should be something like 1000 dollars.

You have to understand that demurrage currency do not work like inflationary or deflationary monetary systems. They do not receive their price from speculation and hoarding but from the commitment of the market participants all together. This is the only sustainable way to pay out a basic income and to create enough money and wealth for everyone.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: yampi on December 09, 2015, 05:59:31 PM
First official Product in store for WLC: http://mobuinet.com/products/19-the-future-of-the-financial-system:-or-the-end-of-the-alchemist-age

Have fun everybody.

Rik

Am I failing maths or are they seriously pricing 1 WLC at 866~ dollars?

When you see money as a agreement and you also agree that a basic income should cover the basic living costs than a monthly income of 1 WLC should be something like 1000 dollars.

You have to understand that demurrage currency do not work like inflationary or deflationary monetary systems. They do not receive their price from speculation and hoarding but from the commitment of the market participants all together. This is the only sustainable way to pay out a basic income and to create enough money and wealth for everyone.

Rik

I was not using that question as some kind of argument against this coin.
Since I am on the basic income program, I can only be happy that 1 WLC is worth around 1k dollars.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 09, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
Hi Yampi,

ah ok you got me  ;). It is just that most people don't realize how monetary systems like the fiat system are structured. Everything they see is that they have to struggle hard for everything and that there is nothing for free in this world. But that is not the truth, it is just the fiat money that enable rich people to keep things scarce and make them expensive (through speculation). Bitcoin follows the same principle.

The problem is that if one reduces the mean of exchange there is less trade and that leads to lower production which leads to less wealth and so on. In prinziple everyone can only drink a few liter water a day, so why should someone own more than he can drink? The only precondition is that society can keep up the supply. In Worldleadcurrency this is done through demurrage and the price recommendation.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: c-cex on December 09, 2015, 10:41:48 PM
Welcome!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: yampi on December 10, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Is there a p2pool fork for this?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 10, 2015, 05:07:00 PM
Is there a p2pool fork for this?

Not that I'm aware of, but it does work very well with p2pool if you merge mine it. Out of all the daemons I run, this one uses the lowest resources of them all.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 10, 2015, 08:46:44 PM
Is there a p2pool fork for this?

There is one for Freicoin with stratum support (i did fix it for FRC and could also fit it for WLC if needed) . But as p3yot33at3r said the best way to mine it is by using merged mining (you get some BTC for free..). ;-)

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 10, 2015, 08:52:01 PM
There is one for Freicoin with stratum support (i did fix it for FRC and could also fit it for WLC if needed).

Rik

I'd be interested in running a p2pool node for WLC if you can manage to do that Rik - it would help with adoption if miners could mine it using p2pool I think?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 10, 2015, 08:54:05 PM
Welcome!

hey Thank you..


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 10, 2015, 08:57:46 PM
There is one for Freicoin with stratum support (i did fix it for FRC and could also fit it for WLC if needed).

Rik

I'd be interested in running a p2pool node for WLC if you can manage to do that Rik - it would help with adoption if miners could mine it using p2pool I think?

WLC would be the main chain in that case.. That means that only Namecoin Dogecoin (i think) devcoin and all the other MeMi coins but no BTC, you really want to do it, or just running a node? I will look into it. its been a while scince i programmed Phyton..

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 10, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
Well, it would open up another option for anyone interested....

I know nothing of python, otherwise I'd have a go myself  :P  Big fan of p2pool though.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: yampi on December 10, 2015, 09:11:41 PM
I am really interested in running a p2pool node since it's easier than maintaining a centralized pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 10, 2015, 09:18:26 PM
Ok, i am on it  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 10, 2015, 10:30:05 PM
Ok, i am on it  ;)

Good man!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 11, 2015, 11:27:41 AM

Thats what i do.. Most things are done but there are 2 tricky functions i still have to fix. Maybe i find a solution during the weekend.

Rik

EDIT Ok functions are looking good, will have to fix synthax and test it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: yampi on December 11, 2015, 02:19:54 PM
Ok, i am on it  ;)
I appreciate it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: callynyan on December 11, 2015, 06:43:47 PM
Nice concept but there should be something like WLC Foundation which holds tax funds in a multi signature address.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 11, 2015, 06:50:11 PM
Nice concept but there should be something like WLC Foundation which holds tax funds in a multi signature address.

After the mess the Bitcoin Foundation is in & has made, no thanks  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: callynyan on December 11, 2015, 06:55:24 PM
Nice concept but there should be something like WLC Foundation which holds tax funds in a multi signature address.

After the mess the Bitcoin Foundation is in & has made, no thanks  ;)

It's better than one person holding it.
Or just port to ETH as a smart contract coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 12, 2015, 08:15:57 AM
Nice concept but there should be something like WLC Foundation which holds tax funds in a multi signature address.

After the mess the Bitcoin Foundation is in & has made, no thanks  ;)

It's better than one person holding it.
Or just port to ETH as a smart contract coin.

I absolutely welcome this idea of puttig the responsibility on different shoulders. This is why there we established WINC association which is in charge of the budget. In theory there could be several people handeling the vouchers (multisign is not implemented right now). And different people that are responsible for different resorts. Possible resorts would be technical development, public relations, Basic income payout, treasurer/treasurers, web development and so on. There are well known examples here in Germany where big associations handle millions of euros through resorts. So in principle everything is there. Everything that is missing are the people to fill the positions.. ;-)

To port it to ETH would mean to give away too much control.

Many greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: zoneout on December 12, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
You should contact coincreator to fresh up the graphics!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 13, 2015, 10:13:47 PM
Who is hosting the block explorer (http://109.73.173.119:81/)? Could you please fix it so it shown human readable values (for example now it shows coin supply as 2241862654769916.00000000 WLC, which I believe is wrong). Most possibly it shows values multiplied by 100000000 by some reason.

Also it would be nice to have a better BE on coin website. Transparency is good.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: callynyan on December 13, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
Are there any bounties for translating the announcement post of this coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 14, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
Who is hosting the block explorer (http://109.73.173.119:81/)? Could you please fix it so it shown human readable values (for example now it shows coin supply as 2241862654769916.00000000 WLC, which I believe is wrong). Most possibly it shows values multiplied by 100000000 by some reason.

Also it would be nice to have a better BE on coin website. Transparency is good.

Hi drays,

the explorer is hosted by the WINC association, although it was not programmed by us. The coins are shown in satoshi and not in coins and also the demurrage is not calculated, so the exact amount would be lower than what is shown. I dont had the time to look into it right now, so any help is appreciated - (will upload the sourcecode asap).
- at the moment i transport p2pool for WLC.

About the BE what exactly are you missing?

@zoneout/callynyan and everyone looking for bounties: The WINC association is a complete non profit organization. This means we can not pay bounties in BTC USD EUR unless we receive some donations. What we can do is that we pay out WLCs as bounty. This would be round about 60 mWLC per hour of work.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 14, 2015, 01:04:48 PM


Hi i think i got it, can you test it please?

https://github.com/WorldLeadCurrency/p2pool4wlc

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: callynyan on December 14, 2015, 03:42:42 PM


Hi i think i got it, can you test it please?

https://github.com/WorldLeadCurrency/p2pool4wlc

Rik

I tested it, only error comes from having no other peers.
pool.winc-ev.com seems to be down.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 15, 2015, 08:57:51 AM


Hi i think i got it, can you test it please?

https://github.com/WorldLeadCurrency/p2pool4wlc

Rik

I tested it, only error comes from having no other peers.
pool.winc-ev.com seems to be down.

Hi yes, pool.winc-ev.com is down. I just rewrite the code. So if someone want to host a bootstrap address just contact me.

The code for the explorer is online at https://github.com/worldleadcurrency/explorer if someone is interested to look into..

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 15, 2015, 11:55:13 AM
Who is hosting the block explorer (http://109.73.173.119:81/)? Could you please fix it so it shown human readable values (for example now it shows coin supply as 2241862654769916.00000000 WLC, which I believe is wrong). Most possibly it shows values multiplied by 100000000 by some reason.

Also it would be nice to have a better BE on coin website. Transparency is good.

the explorer is hosted by the WINC association, although it was not programmed by us. The coins are shown in satoshi and not in coins and also the demurrage is not calculated, so the exact amount would be lower than what is shown. I dont had the time to look into it right now, so any help is appreciated - (will upload the sourcecode asap).
- at the moment i transport p2pool for WLC.

About the BE what exactly are you missing?


I really miss an ability to view at least 100 last blocks with their difficulty, and easily move between blocks to view their content (have at least clickable links on TX IDs and block numbers).. Also list of peers is very much needed to get peers out of BE. Not talking about advanced features like cryptoid explorer offers...

The value in WLC-satoshi are pretty big and look confusing, especially when column header shows "Coin Supply (WLC)".

This looks like an old or stripped-down version of Iquidus explorer (https://github.com/iquidus/explorer). Updating to the last version of Iquidus will make it much better (not perfect, but useable). I can do that if/when get some free time (its always not enough heh.. :-\), but its extremely easy to do, so anyone else could do that as well probably even faster - it actually comes down to git-cloning this new explorer to your server and editing the config file - as the rest is already done and ready on your server machine. Not sure of licensing issues of any.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 15, 2015, 02:34:05 PM
Hi drays,

as you said, there are much better BEs out there. This BE was never planned to beat any of those fancy BEs out there it was just to get some basic information easily. I would personally rather stick with this one like it is (minor changes are ok, when they dont take to much time) and use another one (payed service) in the future. But i am not too deep inside which BEs have which features..

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 15, 2015, 06:05:16 PM
So i tried t install the new version but after installing and setting up the mongodb i try to start with $npm start and i get:

Code:
> explorer@1.6.1 start /root/explorer
> node --stack-size=10000 ./bin/cluster

Starting cluster with pid: 26492

/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/utils.js:97
    process.nextTick(function() { throw err; });
                                        ^

/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/utils.js:97
    process.nextTick(function() { throw err; });
                                        ^
TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined
    at /root/explorer/bin/instance:30:30
    at /root/explorer/lib/database.js:235:14
    at open (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/lib/connection.js:478:17)
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/lib/connection.js:485:7
    at handleCallback (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/utils.js:95:12)
    at _callback (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/db.js:1278:5)
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/db.js:1321:7
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:1015:5
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/auth/mongocr.js:115:17
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:756:13
    at Callbacks.emit (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:95:3)
    at null.messageHandler (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:243:23)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/connection/connection.js:262:22)
    at Socket.emit (events.js:95:17)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (_stream_readable.js:765:14)
    at Socket.emit (events.js:92:17)
TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined
    at /root/explorer/bin/instance:30:30
    at /root/explorer/lib/database.js:235:14
    at open (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/lib/connection.js:478:17)
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/lib/connection.js:485:7
    at handleCallback (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/utils.js:95:12)
    at _callback (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/db.js:1278:5)
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/lib/db.js:1321:7
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:1015:5
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/auth/mongocr.js:115:17
    at /root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:756:13
    at Callbacks.emit (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:95:3)
    at null.messageHandler (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/topologies/server.js:243:23)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (/root/explorer/node_modules/mongoose/node_modules/mongodb/node_modules/mongodb-core/lib/connection/connection.js:262:22)
    at Socket.emit (events.js:95:17)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (_stream_readable.js:765:14)
    at Socket.emit (events.js:92:17)

I just switched databases so i wonder what the problem is..

EDIT:I changed the settings.json instead of copying and now it works.. Problem is: I cant run it in background and the balances are still shown in satoshi.. hmm..


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 15, 2015, 09:56:38 PM
EDIT:I changed the settings.json instead of copying and now it works.. Problem is: I cant run it in background and the balances are still shown in satoshi.. hmm..

Strange... "npm start > /dev/null 2>&1 &" should work. Its not urgent actually, if you could wait few days, I'll look into it at some free moment.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 16, 2015, 06:49:43 PM
I have set up a test explorer now. It is here: http://45.63.117.38:3002/ and works well.
However it still shows values multiplied by 100000000. I suppose this is due to your usage of MPFR and mpq_class. You may want to look into it. Not sure if there is more serious problem or it is just visual. Note that C-Cex does not show the coin supply too by some reason.

BTW, your block explorer (http://109.73.173.119:81) is stuck on block 38884, not updating further. Suppose this is because you played with mongodb.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 17, 2015, 07:16:25 AM
I have set up a test explorer now. It is here: http://45.63.117.38:3002/ and works well.
However it still shows values multiplied by 100000000. I suppose this is due to your usage of MPFR and mpq_class. You may want to look into it. Not sure if there is more serious problem or it is just visual. Note that C-Cex does not show the coin supply too by some reason.

BTW, your block explorer (http://109.73.173.119:81) is stuck on block 38884, not updating further. Suppose this is because you played with mongodb.


The old explorer sometimes just stops.. another reason to do an update.

Thanks for setting up the test, i definitively have to look into the multiplication.

Rik

EDIT: Can you send me your settings? My explorer does not show the coin supply nor the 100 last blocks.. Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 17, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
I have set up a test explorer now. It is here: http://45.63.117.38:3002/ and works well.
However it still shows values multiplied by 100000000. I suppose this is due to your usage of MPFR and mpq_class. You may want to look into it. Not sure if there is more serious problem or it is just visual. Note that C-Cex does not show the coin supply too by some reason.

BTW, your block explorer (http://109.73.173.119:81) is stuck on block 38884, not updating further. Suppose this is because you played with mongodb.


The old explorer sometimes just stops.. another reason to do an update.

Thanks for setting up the test, i definitively have to look into the multiplication.

Rik

EDIT: Can you send me your settings? My explorer does not show the coin supply nor the 100 last blocks.. Thanks

Sure, just sent it to your PM.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 18, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Hi thank you,

i tried to use your settings but still the coin supply is not shown and the "Latest Transactions" are looking weird. I tried to fix the satoshi-problem by modifying app.js by adding zeros to

Code:
sent: (address.sent / 100000000),
received: (address.received / 100000000),
balance: (address.balance / 100000000).toString().replace(/(^-+)/mg, ''),

but it did not change anything. I keep looking..

Rik

EDIT: Also the send coins displayed are not working correct. I cloned the rep 3 times now and the error is still there. This explorer is somehow broken on my server.. maybe i try it on another server..


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 18, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
Hi thank you,

i tried to use your settings but still the coin supply is not shown and the "Latest Transactions" are looking weird. I tried to fix the satoshi-problem by modifying app.js by adding zeros to

Code:
sent: (address.sent / 100000000),
received: (address.received / 100000000),
balance: (address.balance / 100000000).toString().replace(/(^-+)/mg, ''),

but it did not change anything. I keep looking..

Rik

EDIT: Also the send coins displayed are not working correct. I cloned the rep 3 times now and the error is still there. This explorer is somehow broken on my server.. maybe i try it on another server..

Yep, it looks like a fresh installs needed. The old explorer somehow mess up with the new one on your server.

Regarding the coin supply... Something tells me it should be fixed in the coin source code, not in the explorer. I am pretty sure the same problem will appear with any other block explorer, and with Coinmarketcap.com, if you add your coin there.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 21, 2015, 12:36:56 PM
Somehow the blockexplorer is resisting to be installed,

i tried to install the explorer on another server, but after setting the Key for mongodb, creating the source list and updating, the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get install -y mongodb-org

Gives me: mongodb-org cannot locate package.

This seems to be a common problem for 32bit machines but i have a 14.04 64bit version...

Editing files in the views sub folder seem to have some effect on displaying the balances but as long as the explorer is broken it does not make any sense to look into it further.

@drays what do you think is needed to reinstall it correctly?



Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on December 21, 2015, 04:26:18 PM
Somehow the blockexplorer is resisting to be installed,

i tried to install the explorer on another server, but after setting the Key for mongodb, creating the source list and updating, the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get install -y mongodb-org

Gives me: mongodb-org cannot locate package.

This seems to be a common problem for 32bit machines but i have a 14.04 64bit version...

Editing files in the views sub folder seem to have some effect on displaying the balances but as long as the explorer is broken it does not make any sense to look into it further.

@drays what do you think is needed to reinstall it correctly?



Did you try this:

https://docs.mongodb.org/v3.0/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 21, 2015, 06:30:22 PM
i tried to install the explorer on another server, but after setting the Key for mongodb, creating the source list and updating, the command:
Code:
sudo apt-get install -y mongodb-org

Gives me: mongodb-org cannot locate package.

Not perfectly sure on the reason, but typically when I get such message, "sudo apt-get update" helps... Try it, maybe package databases are outdated.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 21, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
Somehow the blockexplorer is resisting to be installed,

i tried to install the explorer on another server, but after setting the Key for mongodb, creating the source list and updating, the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get install -y mongodb-org

Gives me: mongodb-org cannot locate package.

This seems to be a common problem for 32bit machines but i have a 14.04 64bit version...

Editing files in the views sub folder seem to have some effect on displaying the balances but as long as the explorer is broken it does not make any sense to look into it further.

@drays what do you think is needed to reinstall it correctly?



Did you try this:

https://docs.mongodb.org/v3.0/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/

Exactly, several times.
;-)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 21, 2015, 10:12:59 PM
Somehow the blockexplorer is resisting to be installed,

i tried to install the explorer on another server, but after setting the Key for mongodb, creating the source list and updating, the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get install -y mongodb-org

Gives me: mongodb-org cannot locate package.

This seems to be a common problem for 32bit machines but i have a 14.04 64bit version...

Editing files in the views sub folder seem to have some effect on displaying the balances but as long as the explorer is broken it does not make any sense to look into it further.

@drays what do you think is needed to reinstall it correctly?



Did you try this:

https://docs.mongodb.org/v3.0/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/

Exactly, several times.
;-)

Thats strange. What is the output of "sudo apt-get update" after running echo "deb http...." command? You should see something like "Get:1 http://repo.mongodb.org trusty/mongodb-org/3.0/multiverse amd64 Packages [7,183 B]" there.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 22, 2015, 03:28:29 PM
Somehow the blockexplorer is resisting to be installed,

i tried to install the explorer on another server, but after setting the Key for mongodb, creating the source list and updating, the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get install -y mongodb-org

Gives me: mongodb-org cannot locate package.

This seems to be a common problem for 32bit machines but i have a 14.04 64bit version...

Editing files in the views sub folder seem to have some effect on displaying the balances but as long as the explorer is broken it does not make any sense to look into it further.

@drays what do you think is needed to reinstall it correctly?



Did you try this:

https://docs.mongodb.org/v3.0/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu/

Exactly, several times.
;-)

Thats strange. What is the output of "sudo apt-get update" after running echo "deb http...." command? You should see something like "Get:1 http://repo.mongodb.org trusty/mongodb-org/3.0/multiverse amd64 Packages [7,183 B]" there.


I am pretty sure that i used the same tutorial in the first place but now it worked without any intervention, thank you.
But now i am stuck with npm install --production giving me some "'gyp' failed with exit code: 1" error.. hmm anyway i keep it updated.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 23, 2015, 09:45:43 AM
Ok after reinstalling nodejs

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chris-lea/node.js

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install nodejs

I have managed to install everything at: http://91.108.68.164:3001 but still the richlist, Coinsupply and last transactions are missing.. So i am now where i started on the other server.  ??? :P


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: drays on December 23, 2015, 11:40:51 AM
 :)

What a stubborn stuff... resisting attempts to make it work :)

Did you try to put the config file I sent you (with only the DB username/password modification..)?



Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 24, 2015, 10:34:15 PM
Yeah, that right..

However the Christmas special has ended.

Many thanks to all participating users.

The winner of the 100 mBTC is the user arta***** (user contacted via email).

The addresses of the 2000 WLC price winners are:

15PLZhDiP8LSMaiW3csbZa2b6xgDasJZA6
1ECPKN4Y6XmhF7TgsHwXWM6QRNRd8kWcGz
1zhaC3WQJ1jP6EC34x52JcgCnWeaZU78h
1JkcGJ4wCFpxUrvCsWqXM9hHD1vBs6Vw8V
1BxBfVVy6KBJFiW7Rw9Qa2a4S6SyzgRJic

If you are not shure wheter you are one of the winners log in to your account, or check your wlc-wallet.

Greetings and Merry Christmas, Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 27, 2015, 03:17:44 PM
Hello World,

for over 2h the block creation is stuck. As i am looking into proof of stake algorythm lately i will focus on how to implement it and how it will work together with merge mining and demurrage.

As always i keep it updated.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 29, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
So, hashpower has decreased drastically and Blockcration has stopped.

I looked into the different PoS. And found that Blackcoin is most probably the best solution to continue.
Lets see how it could be implemented into WLC.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 05, 2016, 12:02:47 PM
Ok i found out that the PoS methods that are used are not suitable/ not too easy to implement (because of the funds splitting).
So i will try to implement an own version of PoS.

It would be very easy if bitcoind had a method to get the balance of a non wallet Pubkey. But unfortunately Pubkeys - in contrast to UTXOs - are not indexed. So i have to find a way to list and to use UTXOs as a proof for balance. To Scan the hole Blockchain for every block would cost far to much time and to establish a new db section for balances would be hard to program.

Most interesting ways are at the moment to fit the ppcoin PoS by creating a coinbase transaction with all of your funds to easily proof your balance (but this means that you have to have a hot wallet to mine).
Or to use something like importstakekey to keep track of the stakekey balance and to use a pseudocoinbase transaction to proof the balance of an address (not shure how to do it right now).

Then it is thought that everyone gets 10 hashes/coin/second.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 07, 2016, 10:42:48 AM
Details still need to be worked out, but i decided to use hot wallets to get the necessary UTXOs for Proof of Stake. To implement an extra DB that indexes UTXOs by address seem to be very time and work intensive.

At the moment i think about how to automate that the stake address can be calculated from the UTXOs that are inside the wallet. But i see no convincing way, so i think, the easiest is to stake to a given address by using a wallet transaction inside the coinbase.

The problem here would be that you have to sign a transaction with a private key whose public address is not empty when you do not define a new address every block. But this is a problem for future porpose.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: callynyan on January 07, 2016, 01:08:21 PM
Why don't you just switch the whole platform to the one NXT uses? and I don't mean it's internal currency system.
Could even get Estonia to use WLC. Since they seemed to like the idea of blockchain notary.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 07, 2016, 07:16:47 PM
Why don't you just switch the whole platform to the one NXT uses? and I don't mean it's internal currency system.
Could even get Estonia to use WLC. Since they seemed to like the idea of blockchain notary.

Good question

first: i dont know much about the platform.
2. although i had to learn some java to fix the mobile wallet for wlc my skill are just a little above beginners skills.
3. the thing that helped me a lot in creating wlc were the masses of examples and how to's for bitcoin. Although there seem to be a documentation i am not sure how to use it.
4. I believe that one thing that makes bitcoin so successful is that it is only about the currency. NXT has many interesting features that are mostly taking developmentpower away from the core concept.

So given the time i would have to invest i do not see that the outcome is in a good relation.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 08, 2016, 06:44:52 PM
Hello world,

the block creation is running again. But i can send no transactions, so i will include SPoS (Simple Proof of Stake) asap.

Rik

Edit: I have used the wrong explorer api so transactions are there.. ;-)

But i keep on developing SPoS to have something in the hand if there is a hashcrash in the future.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 08, 2016, 10:06:43 PM
Sorry for the delay, basic income - Jan 2016 is now payed.

The 2 wlc for the winners of the christmas special are also send.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on January 19, 2016, 01:25:18 AM
Some rediculous asking prices on C-Cex, not a single trade has happened.......


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 19, 2016, 08:38:01 PM
I told the guys from c-cex that wlc had a hash-crash when the block creation halted. So they stoped the atm. I wrote them that block creation is on again and i thought the atm is now running. I will contact them, maybe then trading continues.

The SPOS is close to finished. I will try to set up a seperate server to test it as soon as i am ready. I keep it updated, Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on January 25, 2016, 01:57:44 PM
C-Cex WLC wallet still under "maintainance"  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: zoneout on January 30, 2016, 02:00:31 PM
I told the guys from c-cex that wlc had a hash-crash when the block creation halted. So they stoped the atm. I wrote them that block creation is on again and i thought the atm is now running. I will contact them, maybe then trading continues.

The SPOS is close to finished. I will try to set up a seperate server to test it as soon as i am ready. I keep it updated, Rik

Keep us updated Rik and please contact someone like logocreator, the coin deserves better graphics


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 31, 2016, 09:20:59 AM
I told the guys from c-cex that wlc had a hash-crash when the block creation halted. So they stoped the atm. I wrote them that block creation is on again and i thought the atm is now running. I will contact them, maybe then trading continues.

The SPOS is close to finished. I will try to set up a seperate server to test it as soon as i am ready. I keep it updated, Rik

Keep us updated Rik and please contact someone like logocreator, the coin deserves better graphics

Hi zoneout, yes it is defiitely on my list. But in the last weeks i am quite buissy so it have to wait a little bit more.

I contacted C-Cex a few times but no reply by now. Maybe they checking their Backdoors after the cryptsy event?

The SPOS is close to finished so testing will be on soon.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 13, 2016, 09:35:59 PM
Hi World,

the hoster of my vps has been bought by another company, so the ips of 2 of the vps machines have changed.

If you have connection problems please add

addnode = 104.168.151.81
addnode = 104.168.155.110

to your worldleadcurrency.conf

The SPOS is making progress but there is still some clean up in the code that needs to be done before testing.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on February 13, 2016, 10:54:39 PM
I contacted C-Cex a few times but no reply by now. Maybe they checking their Backdoors after the cryptsy event?

I finally got a reply from them:

Quote
Wallet has issues. We are working to put it back online very soon.

Pretty vague........


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 14, 2016, 08:40:18 AM
I contacted C-Cex a few times but no reply by now. Maybe they checking their Backdoors after the cryptsy event?

I finally got a reply from them:

Quote
Wallet has issues. We are working to put it back online very soon.

Pretty vague........

I would really like to know what they mean.. ..i had some issues with transactions with no fees they are in mempool but not in a block scince sending them, maybe thats it?

Windows Wallet and sourcecode is updated with the new seeder infos. Android wallet follows soon..


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 15, 2016, 08:37:56 PM
Hello world,

i was informed, that the code has a rounding error, after going into the "stationary" phase. The rounding should now be fixed. Everybody that is running into some error while mining, please download the new sourcecode. Fix is not included in the windows wallet jet.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on February 15, 2016, 09:16:13 PM
Hello world,

i was informed, that the code has a rounding error, after going into the "stationary" phase. The rounding should now be fixed. Everybody that is running into some error while mining, please download the new sourcecode. Fix is not included in the windows wallet jet.

Rik

This breaks the daemon for me running on Xubuntu 64bit - it compiled fine but crashes instantly when started. I've reverted back to the previous version & everything is fine again.

Who told you this change was needed?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 15, 2016, 10:09:24 PM
Thank for the information. Somebody send me an email that there was an error during mining and it sounds reasonable so i changed the check for the connect block but at the wrong line. Now i did set it back. maybe the guy is mining with the p2pool for wlc...

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on February 15, 2016, 10:24:39 PM
Oh right, I thought it might have been c-cex..... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 16, 2016, 05:09:25 AM
Oh right, I thought it might have been c-cex..... ;)

No its not c-cex  ;). Just someone, though i wonder what he is exactly doing.. however, can you please check if you have set some min tx fee with your mining? There are several transactions now that are in mempool but not included into some block and i dont see any other troubles with them but having no special fee inserte. Thank you..

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on February 16, 2016, 12:16:30 PM
however, can you please check if you have set some min tx fee with your mining?

According to the getinfo command:

Code:
"paytxfee" : "0.00"

This is with both the older client & the latest git version with commit 31cac2d, which compiled & is running fine btw.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 16, 2016, 08:27:00 PM
Thanks for looking into, but "patxfee" is only used if you send coins.

For txfees tune bitcoind for more income by editing bitcoin.conf:
Code:

blockmaxsize=1000000
mintxfee=0.00001
minrelaytxfee=0.00001

is important.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: p3yot33at3r on February 16, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
Do you mean worldleadcurrency.conf?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 16, 2016, 09:26:18 PM
Yes i copied the text out of the p2pool description for BTC


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 01, 2016, 09:39:30 AM
Hello World,

because i did not write any update in the last few weeks, here is what is new:

- I try to convert the Abe block explorer for WLC. This is not an easy task as i have not too much knowledge about serialization of the Blockchain in phyton. More details are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22785.1000

- For anybody having problem with mining (Errormessage: Coinbase pays too much) please edit Line 4949 in main.cpp to:
 pblock->vtx[0].vout[0].SetInitialValue(RoundAbsolute(nBlockReward, ROUND_TOWARDS_ZERO) -1 );
Although i am not sure where this error comes from this should be a usable workaround.

- I'd thought, that transactions were not coming through due to some flaw in the code. But after analyzing the memorized transactions pool and looking at the code i found that the sendmany rpc command is not adding fees so it last quite a while for the transaction to be included in a block.
Problem is here that i did send the Basic income transaction 3 times, what means that for the next 2 month only newcomers will receive a basic income.

- I am planning to start a new campain: "Support your Favorite Artist" where you can send your favorite artist to us and we publish an account for the artist where everyone can send WLCs to, to support the artist.
More information follow soon.

- We are looking forward to collaborate with usbitcoinservices.com in Mexico.

- The simple POS for WLC is progressing slowly.. At the moment i have too look deeper into serialization to serialize the POS address correctly.

- The ATM at www.c-cex.com is back online again (many thanks to p3yot33at3r).

If anybody has the time for helping out with the block explorer any help is appreciated (Sourcecode: https://github.com/WorldLeadCurrency/bitcoin-abe).

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 13, 2016, 05:30:47 PM
For everybody that had problems during mining with the Windows-client. I compiled the actual version again, just in case there were any mistakes during the last compiling. I uploaded the new version at winc-ev.org.

Note: I worked on the Abe for WLC but could not get it loading past block 12322. Freicoin however is working with my fork at https://www.github.com/worldleadcurrency/bitcoin-abe , so i guess it is something about the merge mining/ the many coinbase transactions in the parent blocks.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 14, 2016, 08:54:05 PM
Hi there, anybody that want to mine with the windows wallet. please try the new available Version. Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: Apriand on March 18, 2016, 01:53:10 PM
WLC's trading very slow on c-cex and the price is cheap, 40k is bad for this coin,,, hope price will rise up and hope trading will go fast....


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 19, 2016, 09:54:06 AM
Hi Apriand,

as most stock market sceptics and some insiders state there is a much more difficult global situation than back in 2007. The banks have only a small part of the assets they had and even more liabilities leading to a much higher risk for default. Shanghai composite index had lost nearly half of its net worth and money is cheap as never before building up enormous boubbles of loans for houses and investments.

Over all it leads to a very dangerous situation. The next big crisis will definitively increase the awareness for the flaws in our monetary system. Bitcoins/Altcoins will then be booming again like in 2013/14 and most coins will rise in price.

As WLC offers a unique combination of demurrage/unconditional income and a legal ground, because of the voucher structure it definitively has the chance to increase drastically in price.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: Apriand on March 19, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
Ok rik, today i bought some wlcs and ill wait price rise up again,,, maybe need more promote in c-cex chat box like tip or made giveaways there to pump trading volume, but sorry now i cant because yesterday i wd my btc's and now i cant chat there, because my balance under 0.1btc.

Or need to add another market to got some buyers,,,
Im sorry just i think this coin is bad for current price.




Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 20, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Hi Apriband,

lets hope for the best. But although the price is an important indicator the real and even more important challenge is to get merchants to offer their products for WLC. Because this is what the cryptocurrencies are all missing: an active exchange of goods against currency. And so this is the most important job of WLC.

More exchanges are always better, but this either costs BTC or Votes or both. And the most of my time is floating into developments.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: Apriand on March 22, 2016, 05:50:36 AM
Great job rik, wish all the best for wlc.
I believe next this coin will go up top10 coin in the world.
I'll always hold my coins and wait right price.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 22, 2016, 08:01:36 PM
Thanks again,

if you know someone that want to receive an unconditional income in crypto refer her/him please to verify.winc-ev.org. If you know some artist you want to have us listed for donations send me a PM or an email to info[at]winc-ev.org with homepage and email of the artist and she/he will be listed under http://www.winc-ev.org/sfa/.

All the best, Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on March 24, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
I like the idea of UBI. but as a cryptocurrency, how will WLC be able to attract people into using it if the system will take away from their wallet regularly?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 24, 2016, 06:35:12 PM
Hi iTradeChips,

easy answer here. Most of all people are poor. When everyone pays 20% of their money every year, for the poor its cheap for the wealthy its expensive.

And as the money flows back to all people in form of a basic income the coin could attrackt those that are underprivileged in our modern monetary system - which are at least 80%.

But people are far more interested in short term gains than a stable, fair system, so it is hard to attract the people and the main task will be to clarify the fraud of the fiat money system (Bitcoin is no solution) that only serves the rich and leads to a collapse of the whole economy by definition.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on March 25, 2016, 03:18:20 AM
thanks rik. but why is WLC not listed in altcoin exchange sites like yobit? maybe that could help popularize it?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on March 25, 2016, 03:26:40 AM
another thing. i get the idea of reduction of 20% balance per year to distribute to others true to the principle of UBI and i think thats good. but technically how does it work? does the deduction happen at the last day of the year or does it happen throughout the year continuously? because if users know for example that the deduction will happen every 31st of december, they will just dump everything before that date to avoid loss.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 25, 2016, 06:32:39 AM
Hi the accounts are calculated every block (COINS * 0.999996185 ** (age of the transaction in blocks)). So it makes no sense to dump the coin for demurrage reasons (you have to pay the rate anyway). So after 10 Blocks 1 WLC degenerates to 0.99996185. And after 52560 blocks (~1 year) 0.81830775 WLCs are left.

To yobit: Yes it is definitively on my list. But the project is not profitable at the moment, so i can only try a free listing right now (what i have done ritght now ;-). I keep it updated if anything new comes up.

EDIT: There is a special exchange for Freicoin and WLC in development by the Freicoin community.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on March 25, 2016, 08:54:58 AM
Hi the accounts are calculated every block (COINS * 0.999996185 ** (age of the transaction in blocks)). So it makes no sense to dump the coin for demurrage reasons (you have to pay the rate anyway). So after 10 Blocks 1 WLC degenerates to 0.99996185. And after 52560 blocks (~1 year) 0.81830775 WLCs are left.

To yobit: Yes it is definitively on my list. But the project is not profitable at the moment, so i can only try a free listing right now (what i have done ritght now ;-). I keep it updated if anything new comes up.

EDIT: There is a special exchange for Freicoin and WLC in development by the Freicoin community.

okay sorry i was too lazy to read the technical description. good to hear about the development. i am glad some people in cryptoworld put an effort into UBI. i really like the idea. cryptocurrencies are the shit!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: Apriand on March 25, 2016, 12:10:35 PM
You are special one of coin dev rik,,, still active here and answer any question. I like that... and i hope this coin still listed at c-cex.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 25, 2016, 04:27:10 PM
Me too, by the way opening post is now available in malaisian language: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1411798.0


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on March 25, 2016, 10:40:35 PM
hi rik i created an account it says pending approval. another question, what if many users join and create account and they dont invest and just hope for the benefit of redistribution? and why would those with lots of resources invest knowing that they will be taxed more?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 26, 2016, 07:34:17 AM
hi rik i created an account it says pending approval. another question, what if many users join and create account and they dont invest and just hope for the benefit of redistribution? and why would those with lots of resources invest knowing that they will be taxed more?

Hi

Q: what if many users join and create account and they dont invest and just hope for the benefit of redistribution?

A: This is the general question behind basic income: What happens if people get an income without conditions? Many polls and field experiments suggest that people invest more time in education and spend more time with their friends and family. And as the rules of supply and demand suggest the more people that are cashing out the lower the price. So it is more about acceptance and trust than about simple generation of short time profits. Beyond a certain point, like in Bitcoin some people will ask themself, ok now we have that innovation what else can we do with it? And they start do develop businessideas what keeps the money in circulation and decreases the motivation to cash out.

Q: why would those with lots of resources invest knowing that they will be taxed more?

A: That is the brilliant thing about demurrage currencies /(and to some point to all alternative currencies): There is no need for big investors. As stated above at a certain point of acceptance and trust people start playing around and some will find a way to earn money with their ideas (developing mining farms for mining bitcoins/litecoins) and they become the big players without any need of investors.

IMO the important questions are: Is the currency to be trusted and can we trust each other? - If one can earn a lot of money with WLC, paying some coins back is not a big deal and keeps the system stable (money in circulation). - The taxes from today are the earnings from tomorrow.. So much for the theory.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 26, 2016, 08:39:15 AM
Hi everybody,

i found that some transactions are taking a very long time to be included into a block. The problem seems to be that the demurrage is used as a transaction fee. Although this never was a problem during my testruns, there seem to be used some mining setups for WLC ming that dont support this kind of transaction fee. So i modified the client to include at least 10 satoshi as transaction fee. Windows wallet is also updated and can be downloaded from winc-ev.org.

Happy Basic income eastern everybody..  8) Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on March 29, 2016, 11:26:08 AM
rik my account has been approved now. i requested for a new password then an email sent me a link for password reset. then i land on a page to reset my new password but it still asks for the old password which i already forgot. what should i do? thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: benedictonathan on March 29, 2016, 08:53:30 PM
A very interesting concept. Will definitely check this out! Thank you for sharing.

BenedictoNathan
ORA ET LABORA


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 04, 2016, 12:39:06 PM
rik my account has been approved now. i requested for a new password then an email sent me a link for password reset. then i land on a page to reset my new password but it still asks for the old password which i already forgot. what should i do? thanks

Hi iTradeChips, sorry for the delay. There were a few other users that had reported that problem. But i can not recap the problem, so i can only guess whats missing. I see you have managed to enter your address. Have you used another browser or what had you done to enter the page?

Thanks Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 05, 2016, 08:10:25 PM
Hello World,

the block creation is slow at the moment because the mining power increased for a short time driving the difficulty up. The difficulty will decrease at block 53248 which will last quite some time if hashpower is not increased.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on April 06, 2016, 03:20:01 AM
hey rik how come my wallet dont receive any basic income until now? i joined since last month.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 06, 2016, 06:35:01 PM
Hi,

WLC basic income is always payed at the beginning of each month. What counts is the date of setting up your WLC-Address in your account. Many users set up an account, but do not fill their WLC-Address, so i check only once the first day in each month which WLC addresses are there. And i can not pay the income for month in the past.

But of course your case was different, cause there were technical issues so i send you the WLC

Txid: 9f810a016d89f6f3ef8610e65561ccaac49a9460f7ee0a87c4e15fd31a063e06

Greetings Rik

Additional Note: I believe C-CEX is using the standard wallet settings to send transactions. As described earlier that prevents the transaction to be included inside a block. I tried to send them a personal message but i do not receive an answer. As soon as i clear this case i write again.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on April 07, 2016, 01:23:46 AM
Hi,

WLC basic income is always payed at the beginning of each month. What counts is the date of setting up your WLC-Address in your account. Many users set up an account, but do not fill their WLC-Address, so i check only once the first day in each month which WLC addresses are there. And i can not pay the income for month in the past.

But of course your case was different, cause there were technical issues so i send you the WLC

Txid: 9f810a016d89f6f3ef8610e65561ccaac49a9460f7ee0a87c4e15fd31a063e06

Greetings Rik

Additional Note: I believe C-CEX is using the standard wallet settings to send transactions. As described earlier that prevents the transaction to be included inside a block. I tried to send them a personal message but i do not receive an answer. As soon as i clear this case i write again.

How come i only got 1 WLC? your website says Basic income is 1000?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 07, 2016, 04:10:02 PM
Hi iTradeChips,

its 1000 mWLC, so 1 WLC is correct. Can you please post a link where i wrote the amount?

Thanks Rik

EDIT:
C-Cex answered they added some tx fee, so withdrawals should work without problems.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 16, 2016, 02:22:17 PM
Hello world,

as mentioned earlier there are some transactions not included in a block.

So i put a small bounty out for the miner that include the block.

The transactions are:

d3d6b738da12464f795c7e3159c942250fcc587e56f59a2d8a09530f04cb16c9

2aee2b1cc083387d39c6d086eceb85a4c9170e79b0559e29b7c392b192a4a3d6

I think there are more, but i think that including those two will include the others too.

I suppose 500 NXT and 5 WLC for the miner that includes the transactions.

Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 01, 2016, 09:07:19 PM
Hello world basic income for may is payed, have fun.

txid: 50623e5ec6d3e5d18a35603ba403688691393f14ce5e2bb7764ca148a983aae6


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 11, 2016, 07:52:54 PM
Update:
I set up a blog for WLC where i will post news and additional Informations @ wincev.wordpress.com and a bounty post to summarize the open bountys.
Many greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 14, 2016, 02:50:43 AM
Hello World,

IMPORTANT NOTE: WLC will get delisted at C-Cex.com.

I asked the C-Cex support what it would cost to keep the exchange running. The cost will be at 0.72 BTC/year (0.06 BTC/month) in trading fees. That seems too much for me alone to pay for a service that only a few are actively using.

Alternatives right now are:

1. The Freicoin community is already testing a small exchange for FRC/WLC/BTC. So the idea is to spend time to get it online ASAP.
2. Not excluding the first, but if there is the need for an exchange i could pay Yobit for adding WLC.

What are you thinking about the issue?

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on May 14, 2016, 04:35:39 AM
hi rik. why not make the coin hybrid PoW/PoS where there is still basic income for those with zero balance? divide the block rewards among miners, PoS rewards and a central fund for basic income and other projects. im no expert but i think crypto users does not like demurrage because it is taxation. PoS will encourage users to hold wlc rather than dumping to avoid demurrage.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 15, 2016, 12:52:07 PM
Hi iTradeChips,
this is exactly what i tried to do. But including POS into a coin from scratsch is very complicated. POS/POW is even more complicated. And to implement it in a running Merge Mining coin there are even more things to consider, so i am stuck with this part of the project.

I can understand that people do not like taxation. But everyone is screaming for the the state if anything need to be paied. The only real consequence is that the rich keep their money and the poor suffer. To give the people a basic income the best way imo to attract people. If it is not working, most likely the prople have not suffered enough. The problem is that most poor people do not have the possibility to  lern more about Bitcoin the finacial system and altcoins in particular.

The idea to charge negative interest rates on money at the central banks is the same like demurrage but WLC has the additional advance that money is not equal to debt, so we can pay a basic income.

If people do not understand why the combination negative interest rates/basic income is powerful that there is not much that WLC can do.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 24, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
Hi everybody i tried to create enough volume for WLC at C-Cex to keep trading alive. I accidently dumped all my hot wallet coins into oblivion, so no more pughing of trading volume.
Anyway the truth is there is no interest in this coin. And it makes no sense to just keep it up for the hope that things will change, so maybe i will contact Yobit if the interest is rising in the future.
Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on June 03, 2016, 07:17:28 PM
Hello World,

a few points for you all to know:

1. Yesterday basic income for june was payed. Everyone that is not receiving its WLC please check your WLC address in your account at verify.winc-ev.com.

2. Because we will start to delete accounts that never signed in, please consider to sign in at verify.winc-ev.com and set a WLC address.

3. I have included WLC into the coinomi wallet. A very small and fast wallet with that you can control many Altcoins at the same time. I will contact coinomi, so they include it hopefully in the standard version, so it is updated automatically. For now you can download the beta version from www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact/

4. Next i will work on POS for WLC and a good blockexplorer to show transactions in real time and also calculates demurrage online.

5. WLC stays on C-cex for now. So please consider to use coinomi to exchange WLC.

Thanks a lot to everybody, Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: iTradeChips on June 04, 2016, 05:29:22 AM
Hello World,

a few points for you all to know:

1. Yesterday basic income for june was payed. Everyone that is not receiving its WLC please check your WLC address in your account at verify.winc-ev.com.

2. Because we will start to delete accounts that never signed in, please consider to sign in at verify.winc-ev.com and set a WLC address.

3. I have included WLC into the coinomi wallet. A very small and fast wallet with that you can control many Altcoins at the same time. I will contact coinomi, so they include it hopefully in the standard version, so it is updated automatically. For now you can download the beta version from www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact/

4. Next i will work on POS for WLC and a good blockexplorer to show transactions in real time and also calculates demurrage online.

5. WLC stays on C-cex for now. So please consider to use coinomi to exchange WLC.

Thanks a lot to everybody, Rik.

hey rik i know someone who knows how to make coins. maybe you two can collaborate to create the coin you want?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freicoin clone for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on June 06, 2016, 04:39:06 PM
Hey thanks for the contact, i will write him about it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: LugLoper on June 30, 2016, 10:46:12 AM
Sorry for asking... but does this coin work almost like a "grant system'' - meaning - honest, registered users(like myself) ;D is given a certain amount
of coins each month into his/her registered wlc address (as long as they stay active)?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on June 30, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
Yepp, thats the deal. And its refinanced through the time dependend degration of coins (demurrage). So there is no inflation (only the normal crypto volatility) but circulation of money.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: LugLoper on June 30, 2016, 04:36:40 PM
Yepp, thats the deal. And its refinanced through the time dependend degration of coins (demurrage). So there is no inflation (only the normal crypto volatility) but circulation of money.

Rik

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: LugLoper on July 01, 2016, 02:50:29 PM
erm... so when is the next payout? knowledge is survival after all... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on July 01, 2016, 09:15:35 PM
Payout June is done,

Transaction ID is: 419905ee573562183a638368aa4a4299fa5e1591c9c9033d166ceda49cf587f1

I try to keep the payouts to each 1. of the month.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: ricku on July 03, 2016, 07:48:49 AM
Payout June is done,

Transaction ID is: 419905ee573562183a638368aa4a4299fa5e1591c9c9033d166ceda49cf587f1

I try to keep the payouts to each 1. of the month.

Rik
This is awesome, can i still join the monthly payout program?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on July 03, 2016, 07:46:32 PM
Yes you can.  ;)

An unconditional (basic) income is per design open for everybody. The system is constructed for 300.000 participants at the moment.
Because there is the possibility to create several accounts for one person, if the coin will become mainstream at some point the idea is to cooperate with some bigger company (e.g. Kraken) to give everybody that has registred with a passport a unconditional income.

If more than 300.000 people join the network there are 3 choices:

1. Increase Max coin. - This would devaluate the currency.
2. Increase Demurrage.
3. Decrease payout.

Since the demurrage (negative interest rate) of ~20% is already high, there are 8 decimalplaces and more participants normally means more value of the system, my favorite solution is to decrease payout as there is no adjustment of the code needed.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: ricku on July 03, 2016, 08:57:48 PM
Yes you can.  ;)

An unconditional (basic) income is per design open for everybody. The system is constructed for 300.000 participants at the moment.
Because there is the possibility to create several accounts for one person, if the coin will become mainstream at some point the idea is to cooperate with some bigger company (e.g. Kraken) to give everybody that has registred with a passport a unconditional income.

If more than 300.000 people join the network there are 3 choices:

1. Increase Max coin. - This would devaluate the currency.
2. Increase Demurrage.
3. Decrease payout.

Since the demurrage (negative interest rate) of ~20% is already high, there are 8 decimalplaces and more participants normally means more value of the system, my favorite solution is to decrease payout as there is no adjustment of the code needed.

Rik
Thank you, i have registered and now waiting for my account to be active. I need to add that it took less than 20 seconds to register.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on August 01, 2016, 08:02:15 PM
Payout for August is filled.

If you have any questions, please send us an email to info.winc-ev.org.

C-Cex is up for delisting WLC again. This time i would lose a lot more WLC due to lower price to reach trading volume of 6BTC.
So i will not try to keep WLC listed.

Note: If anybody want to sell some WLC to me privately at exchange rate of 250 satoshi/ WLC after delisting at C-Cex, please send me a pm (this offer is especially for miners).

Rik

EDIT: I used some open longs on BTC to keep WLC from delisting, so its easier for the miners to get paied.
The Transaction ID for this month is: 6537927a7ccdf334cd9fd4c44c9958d9bd3d0703ef66b89fc5a11657c1c8f081


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: crackfoo on August 05, 2016, 07:01:00 PM
Hi,

We've added WLC to the miners multipool: www.zpool.ca

Cheers!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: ricku on August 05, 2016, 11:12:11 PM
I wonder to see that August payment have been sent whereas i am yet to receive the payment for July, i guess it was an oversight, please dev i am still waiting for payment.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on August 10, 2016, 04:04:11 AM
Hi payment for July is named payout June,

sorry for the inconsistency i send another payment to compensate.
TxID cbb240797ee8096a9ac41da94bb3ac0276291c6aae3d01fcf78193ddc7d87817

Network is slow at the moment, so the confirmation could take some time.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: pcoin on August 11, 2016, 11:22:50 AM
Without any doubt this idea is some how not interesting as i received 1 WLC after waiting for a whole 30 days and the value happens to be 0.00006btc for 30 days of waiting.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on August 13, 2016, 04:47:34 AM
Without any doubt this idea is some how not interesting as i received 1 WLC after waiting for a whole 30 days and the value happens to be 0.00006btc for 30 days of waiting.

I know what you mean. But the point is that most that are interested in cryptocurrencies are not into the idea of a basic income.
And those that are interested in a basic income think using cryptocurrencies is a bad idea. The people i talked to are still trying to apply a basic income to fiat money, but this is as promissing as bringing a basic income to bitcoin.

The reason why the payout is only 1 WLC is that the currency is meant to be spreaded to every human worldwide. Keeping in mind that we are 8 bn people 1 WLC is still too much, but i used it as a good start.

The price mirrors the interest in the currency. Like Bitcoins price was less than a cent its worth was much, much higher. At the moment there just seems to be no big demand. I try my best to make it one of the top currencies but without users that actually use the currency my hands are tied.

And i do not think that the idea is not interesting in principle. The missing circulation of money was one of the main reasons for the last crisis and it will also be one of the main reasons for the next. I can only hope that the people are then not only complaining about politics but start to act.

So if you think that the idea is not usefull IMHO it is at the moment just because a lack of interest. If you have an idea how to accumulate more participants and users you are always welcome. Otherwise i can only ask you to wait for the idea to grow.

Thanks in advance Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 02, 2016, 08:08:01 PM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: eye4bd on September 02, 2016, 09:07:45 PM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik

Hi
Thank you for taking this challenge and continuous fight keeping it alive. Few months back this kind of things was tottaly unthinkable for me. Actually it's not only for me, but everyone where I born and living.
For me appreciation to your on going work isn't discribale. Was tried my best to learn more about WLC! But some points are still remain tough to understand for me.

Like's_ how much WLC one perticepents receive as a monthly basic income?
Is that change over time as perticepents become older!

Where I should go to learning more about WLC!
There is any way to involve WLC for contribute by laboring!

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: Apriand on September 02, 2016, 10:42:46 PM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik

Good job rik you still active here in this forum to control your coin, but why WLC have no value and volume at c-cex? you're one of best dev but other exchange for WLC still needed.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 03, 2016, 03:18:59 AM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik

Hi
Thank you for taking this challenge and continuous fight keeping it alive. Few months back this kind of things was tottaly unthinkable for me. Actually it's not only for me, but everyone where I born and living.
For me appreciation to your on going work isn't discribale. Was tried my best to learn more about WLC! But some points are still remain tough to understand for me.

Like's_ how much WLC one perticepents receive as a monthly basic income?
Is that change over time as perticepents become older!

Where I should go to learning more about WLC!
There is any way to involve WLC for contribute by laboring!

Thanks!


Hi, the amout of WLCs payed as a basic income will decrease when there are more participants than coins are generated through demurrage.

The amount of demurraged coins (old coins are degraded new coins are minted at the same rate) is round about 300k / month at a block generation rate of 6/hour. This means everybody becomes 1 WLC / month as long as there are under ~300k participants.

As soon as there are more than ~300k participants The number of WLC/ participant will decrease. Those that have started earlier are favored to support early adopters.

I don't fully understand your 2. question, can you please explain it in more detail?
Are you asking to help or what bounties there are or do you want
There are many things around WLC that are not too easy to explain like the voucher status, so if there are open questions feel free to ask.

Rik





Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 03, 2016, 03:32:19 AM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik

Good job rik you still active here in this forum to control your coin, but why WLC have no value and volume at c-cex? you're one of best dev but other exchange for WLC still needed.

Thank you. But there are still many things to learn about Bitcoin and the community. For example i can not make an explorer for the coin. All explorers are crashing or are build for Bitcoin and have a problem with the big decimal numbers of WLC. I was thinking about having an interface that is communicating with our electrum server.

The easy answer to the missing volume is that those that have coins are not willing to sell their coins for actual prices and those that want coins are not ready to pay more than the price is.

The more complex answer is that big markets attract more traders and volume increase. Of course this could also help the popularity of the coin but somewhere it has to start. If there is the wish to put it on other exanges like lets say yobit, it is surely an option. But by now there was no explicit demand for that.

Thanks for the input, Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on September 03, 2016, 09:27:45 AM
If there is the wish to put it on other exanges like lets say yobit, it is surely an option.

I urge you to avoid YoBit at all costs - it's a scam exchange with no support, see here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914975.msg16079906#msg16079906

Nothing but lies & theft - beware.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: DigitalCurrencyConsultant on September 03, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
WLC WorldLeadCurrency has been added to NovaExchange (https://novaexchange.com/?re=jyjced7fu5o0wjbrsc8f)
Welcome to Sweden!!
WLC is trading inside the btc, espers, ltc, doge, aricoin and cryptojacks base markets


Please update the OP  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: pcoin on September 05, 2016, 04:36:03 PM
Congratulations for your coin been listed in another popular exchange however it would be nice to increase the monthly payout because 1 wlc per month is not that encouraging.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 06, 2016, 08:20:43 PM
Congratulations for your coin been listed in another popular exchange however it would be nice to increase the monthly payout because 1 wlc per month is not that encouraging.

Hi thanks for your idea,

there are 2 main problems with increasing the payout.

1. It is very likely that the price will drop due to increase of money supply.
There is a demand problem i think this can not be solved by increasing the supply.

2. The mining reward would shrink. As you may have observed the mining is not very constant.
Increasing the payout drops the mining reward what makes mining even more unstable.

I know that it is not encouraging but the main focus needs to be on increasing demand.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 23, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
Hello World,

i have a good and two bad infos.

The bad is that c-cex.com dont want to cooperate with us in distributing the basic income.
and novaexchange had to delist WLC again because oft the low volume.

The good news is that we are cooperating with the financial autonomous zone from italy: https://domenicods.wordpress.com/faz-eng/
They have comparable aims and want to push the idea of a basic income with Freigeld.

We will rebrand the coin and give it a much more user friendly homepage with donationspage, crowdfounding and marketplace included.

I will announce further details as we finish parts of the project, Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: crackfoo on September 25, 2016, 02:14:52 PM
2016-09-25 14:13:50   nActualTimespan = 19670  before bounds
2016-09-25 14:13:50 GetNextWorkRequired RETARGET
2016-09-25 14:13:50 dAdjustmentFactor = 3.90442
2016-09-25 14:13:50 Before: 1a036308  0000000000000363080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
2016-09-25 14:13:50 After:  1a00de10  00000000000000de105955555555555555555555555555555555555555555555
2016-09-25 14:13:50 ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase pays too much (actual=76.29404532 vs limit=76.29404531954693128200243655760667466760082013849260080297210576562447903366104382225536894871690922481644037134174141101539134979248046875)
2016-09-25 14:13:55 connection timeout
2016-09-25 14:13:56 trying connection 176.101.254.177:55889 lastseen=1270.7hrs

I keep getting errors trying to mine now.

Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: ricku on September 25, 2016, 04:51:57 PM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik
Hello Rik, i have not received my monthly cut, kindly double check in order to effect my payment.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 25, 2016, 05:21:45 PM
2016-09-25 14:13:50   nActualTimespan = 19670  before bounds
2016-09-25 14:13:50 GetNextWorkRequired RETARGET
2016-09-25 14:13:50 dAdjustmentFactor = 3.90442
2016-09-25 14:13:50 Before: 1a036308  0000000000000363080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
2016-09-25 14:13:50 After:  1a00de10  00000000000000de105955555555555555555555555555555555555555555555
2016-09-25 14:13:50 ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase pays too much (actual=76.29404532 vs limit=76.29404531954693128200243655760667466760082013849260080297210576562447903366104382225536894871690922481644037134174141101539134979248046875)
2016-09-25 14:13:55 connection timeout
2016-09-25 14:13:56 trying connection 176.101.254.177:55889 lastseen=1270.7hrs

I keep getting errors trying to mine now.

Any ideas?

can you edit the main.cpp in line 4948 and add a -1 before the semincolon?

mpq nBlockReward = (GetInitialDistributionAmount(nHeight) + GetPerpetualSubsidyAmount(nHeight)) * (1 - TITHE_RATIO) + nFees -1;

Then recomile the client and start again. Thanks.

somehow there seems to be rounding problem on some servers. This fix should decrease the mining reward by one satoshi and coinbase should pay right amount. Please let me know if it works.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: crackfoo on September 25, 2016, 05:53:36 PM
2016-09-25 14:13:50   nActualTimespan = 19670  before bounds
2016-09-25 14:13:50 GetNextWorkRequired RETARGET
2016-09-25 14:13:50 dAdjustmentFactor = 3.90442
2016-09-25 14:13:50 Before: 1a036308  0000000000000363080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
2016-09-25 14:13:50 After:  1a00de10  00000000000000de105955555555555555555555555555555555555555555555
2016-09-25 14:13:50 ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase pays too much (actual=76.29404532 vs limit=76.29404531954693128200243655760667466760082013849260080297210576562447903366104382225536894871690922481644037134174141101539134979248046875)
2016-09-25 14:13:55 connection timeout
2016-09-25 14:13:56 trying connection 176.101.254.177:55889 lastseen=1270.7hrs

I keep getting errors trying to mine now.

Any ideas?

can you edit the main.cpp in line 4948 and add a -1 before the semincolon?

mpq nBlockReward = (GetInitialDistributionAmount(nHeight) + GetPerpetualSubsidyAmount(nHeight)) * (1 - TITHE_RATIO) + nFees -1;

Then recomile the client and start again. Thanks.

somehow there seems to be rounding problem on some servers. This fix should decrease the mining reward by one satoshi and coinbase should pay right amount. Please let me know if it works.

2016-09-25 17:53:10 ERROR: Aux POW missing chain merkle root in parent coinbase
2016-09-25 17:53:10 ERROR: AUX POW is not valid


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 25, 2016, 07:29:41 PM
2016-09-25 14:13:50   nActualTimespan = 19670  before bounds
2016-09-25 14:13:50 GetNextWorkRequired RETARGET
2016-09-25 14:13:50 dAdjustmentFactor = 3.90442
2016-09-25 14:13:50 Before: 1a036308  0000000000000363080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
2016-09-25 14:13:50 After:  1a00de10  00000000000000de105955555555555555555555555555555555555555555555
2016-09-25 14:13:50 ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase pays too much (actual=76.29404532 vs limit=76.29404531954693128200243655760667466760082013849260080297210576562447903366104382225536894871690922481644037134174141101539134979248046875)
2016-09-25 14:13:55 connection timeout
2016-09-25 14:13:56 trying connection 176.101.254.177:55889 lastseen=1270.7hrs

I keep getting errors trying to mine now.

Any ideas?

can you edit the main.cpp in line 4948 and add a -1 before the semincolon?

mpq nBlockReward = (GetInitialDistributionAmount(nHeight) + GetPerpetualSubsidyAmount(nHeight)) * (1 - TITHE_RATIO) + nFees -1;

Then recomile the client and start again. Thanks.

somehow there seems to be rounding problem on some servers. This fix should decrease the mining reward by one satoshi and coinbase should pay right amount. Please let me know if it works.

2016-09-25 17:53:10 ERROR: Aux POW missing chain merkle root in parent coinbase
2016-09-25 17:53:10 ERROR: AUX POW is not valid

Ok, never seen this error before. The servers i did set up in the past hadnt had those problems. Can you give some details about the system you are using? so i can look into it.

@ricku i do not know what happend. Maybe i missed to add so txfee. I will check it.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 26, 2016, 10:39:29 AM
Payout for September is filled.
Have fun Rik
Hello Rik, i have not received my monthly cut, kindly double check in order to effect my payment.

Hi ricku,

i have found a transaction "tx_hash": "078801bdbe958a88442eaec33c3bf45868a000c95802411584e246c95fd50d63", "height": 69222 from 02.09 where 1 WLC was payed to the address you provided at verify.winc-ev.com. Can you please ensure, if that transaction dont arrive there may be a problem with your wallet installation.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: pcoin on September 26, 2016, 11:18:37 AM
Congratulations for your coin been listed in another popular exchange however it would be nice to increase the monthly payout because 1 wlc per month is not that encouraging.

Hi thanks for your idea,

there are 2 main problems with increasing the payout.

1. It is very likely that the price will drop due to increase of money supply.
There is a demand problem i think this can not be solved by increasing the supply.

2. The mining reward would shrink. As you may have observed the mining is not very constant.
Increasing the payout drops the mining reward what makes mining even more unstable.

I know that it is not encouraging but the main focus needs to be on increasing demand.

Rik
Your defense may sounds right but 1 wlc per month is nothing to write home about, it does not even worth 1000 sats, though it is not compulsory that i participate here but just for other people that are thinking in my standard.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 26, 2016, 01:53:15 PM
Your defense may sounds right but 1 wlc per month is nothing to write home about, it does not even worth 1000 sats, though it is not compulsory that i participate here but just for other people that are thinking in my standard.

It may sounds like an excuse but it was an explanation why it makes no sense to increase supply. It may shortly increases attraction but this could only be a short gold rush, with the following hangover. For a stable system slow increase in adoption is to prefer. Additionally at this state it is very easy to open several accounts which would give unfair players an unwanted advance.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 28, 2016, 09:28:36 AM
Hello everybody,

crackfoo and me have seen that Terracoin and WLC have the same ChainID return 0x0011. To change that there have to be a hard fork, does anybody have any retention against it?

I would like to include that the long numbers are cutted into 8 digits, what also would need a hard fork.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on October 03, 2016, 02:46:35 AM
Hello World,

UBI october is payed:

e038bcc74c8b6cb8d828ed6160be8634cea9cd072e1b24b0fa1562443050c6e9

http://zpool.ca/explorer/WLC?txid=e038bcc74c8b6cb8d828ed6160be8634cea9cd072e1b24b0fa1562443050c6e9

if there are any questions please contact me.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on November 02, 2016, 06:16:29 PM
Hello World,

UBI november is payed:

http://zpool.ca/explorer/WLC?txid=24cd78c2a1f67d2601082d059943c5ecb9ade8b12016ee901d0616dc12236a73

if there are any questions please contact me.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on November 05, 2016, 09:07:08 PM
Hello everybody,

crackfoo and me have seen that Terracoin and WLC have the same ChainID return 0x0011. To change that there have to be a hard fork, does anybody have any retention against it?

I would like to include that the long numbers are cutted into 8 digits, what also would need a hard fork.

Rik

Ah! This is what's causing my problems when merge mining WLC & TRC on the same p2pool node - I end up having to stop mining one or the other coins. It would be nice if this issue was solved, so if a hard fork is what's needed - so be it.

EDIT: Unforttunately I've had to stop mining WLC because of this issue. I will start mining WLC again as soon as the code is fixed.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: clockuniverse on November 08, 2016, 02:55:24 PM
Hello everybody,

crackfoo and me have seen that Terracoin and WLC have the same ChainID return 0x0011. To change that there have to be a hard fork, does anybody have any retention against it?

I would like to include that the long numbers are cutted into 8 digits, what also would need a hard fork.

Rik

Sorry about that, we (Terracoin) weren't aware anyone else was using that ChainID.  Is it going to be a huge ordeal for you guys to hard fork?  We just hard forked a little bit ago and I would hope we wouldn't have to do it again for a while.  Does it need to be a mandatory update or just for people who mine?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on November 17, 2016, 07:22:34 PM
Hello everybody,

crackfoo and me have seen that Terracoin and WLC have the same ChainID return 0x0011. To change that there have to be a hard fork, does anybody have any retention against it?

I would like to include that the long numbers are cutted into 8 digits, what also would need a hard fork.

Rik

Ah! This is what's causing my problems when merge mining WLC & TRC on the same p2pool node - I end up having to stop mining one or the other coins. It would be nice if this issue was solved, so if a hard fork is what's needed - so be it.

EDIT: Unforttunately I've had to stop mining WLC because of this issue. I will start mining WLC again as soon as the code is fixed.

Hi IconFirm thats good to know. I have already prepared a hard fork, but i want to implement it in the rebranded coin.
The coin stays the same, but i want to use another name. I am waiting at the moment for the new symbol to be drawn and am working on a onlinewallet that you can access within facebook messenger. So i can only ask for a little bit more time.

Hi clockuniverse, thats ok. But as there is not enough interest in social cryptocurrencies at the moment i am alone and everything last much longer than it could, but we are on the way.. And yes of course it is a must have update when you wanna mine both. Otherwise the wallet will also accept blocks mined with the old wallet.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on November 24, 2016, 10:57:59 PM
My wallet is no longer syncronising - has the blockchain now stopped?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on November 27, 2016, 06:25:47 AM
Well yes, it looks like the last block was mined a few days ago.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: andaristastore on November 27, 2016, 07:51:34 AM
My wallet too, please add node


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on November 28, 2016, 04:14:43 PM
My wallet too, please add node

Hi, do you have connections or is the wallet just not synching. The mining has continued, please check your wallet.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 08, 2016, 09:28:18 PM
Sorry i hadnt had the time to post. Income december is payed:

d1782227f11dbf8e8afacc3db03dd825c8f6def718f679010f79dd0780a25080

The verified site is running again. I had some complication with my provider, so it wasnt possible to bring the backup on-line.

And as a last info C-Cex delisted WorldLeadCurrency. It was not on the list and i did not receive anything in my emails. I think they made a mistake. But hard to prove and harder to rewind it. I dont know what they were thinking or if it was bad luck but i did not receive any information on this topic yet and i am sure that i did not get any notification saying it will be delisted!

If they answer my email i will let you know.

Greetings Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 09, 2016, 06:50:55 AM
C-Cex answered my email saying that it was announced to be delisted correctly.
The problem was that the updated list did not contain WLC anymore, so i thought it would not be delisted.

However the real problem is that the trading volume is very low and not enough people where interested in, so i will accept what happend though it makes it much harder for the miners to mine the coin profitable.

Another thing: the seed node i used had to be restarted and now its not working anymore. The NS record can not be seen from outside my webpage configuration. Is there anyone familiar with this topic?

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 09, 2016, 01:13:49 PM
I was surprised to see it go too actually, but was able to withdraw my coins from the ledger page - so that's good.

Maybe now would be a good time to fix the conflicting chainID issue so that WLC can be merge mined with other coins. This would ensure more miners can mine it & in turn attract more users I'm sure. Better to do it now & ensure everything is working OK before getting listed on an exchange again I think....?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 09, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
I was surprised to see it go too actually, but was able to withdraw my coins from the ledger page - so that's good.

Maybe now would be a good time to fix the conflicting chainID issue so that WLC can be merge mined with other coins. This would ensure more miners can mine it & in turn attract more users I'm sure. Better to do it now & ensure everything is working OK before getting listed on an exchange again I think....?

Absolutely, i will start now. everything else have to wait.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 13, 2016, 10:28:21 AM
The patch is ready,

as this will introduce a hard fork as soon as the first block with the new ChainID is mined and the new version will be online by the end of the week,
everybody please secure your cryptovouchers. As c-cex.com is delisting WLC please withdraw your coins asap.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: dsfghgf4 on December 13, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
i have withdrawal my coin, thankz for the information


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 14, 2016, 11:47:47 AM
The patch is ready,

as this will introduce a hard fork as soon as the first block with the new ChainID is mined and the new version will be online by the end of the week,
everybody please secure your cryptovouchers. As c-cex.com is delisting WLC please withdraw your coins asap.

Rik


I've compiled am am running the new client, but am getting this error while trying to merge mine with p2pool:

Code:
2016-12-14 11:43:15.890711 > Error while calling merged getauxblock on http://127.0.0.1:45888/:
2016-12-14 11:43:15.890886 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2016-12-14 11:43:15.890964 > Failure: twisted.internet.error.ConnectionRefusedError: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.

I tried downloading a new blockchain, but got the same error.



Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 14, 2016, 12:27:16 PM
The patch is ready,

as this will introduce a hard fork as soon as the first block with the new ChainID is mined and the new version will be online by the end of the week,
everybody please secure your cryptovouchers. As c-cex.com is delisting WLC please withdraw your coins asap.

Rik


I've compiled am am running the new client, but am getting this error while trying to merge mine with p2pool:

Code:
2016-12-14 11:43:15.890711 > Error while calling merged getauxblock on http://127.0.0.1:45888/:
2016-12-14 11:43:15.890886 > Traceback (most recent call last):
2016-12-14 11:43:15.890964 > Failure: twisted.internet.error.ConnectionRefusedError: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.

I tried downloading a new blockchain, but got the same error.



Hi, my guess is that you are using wrong port. The standard rpc port is 55888, 45888 is for testnet. Until you changed the port you maybe have just entered the wrong port entered.
But can you please wait till the weekend to use the new client? I want to make sure that everyone has time enough to withdraw and updated the client, so everyone is on the right chain?

Thanks a lot, Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 14, 2016, 01:03:00 PM

Hi, my guess is that you are using wrong port.


Oops. You are so right - not sure how I managed that.....my fat fingers I guess..... :D


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 15, 2016, 09:20:47 AM
Ok, is see we are on the new chain.
So as long as C-Cex are not updating the withdrawal will not be possible anymore.
The good news is that the patch seem to work without problems (Can you please confirm IconFIRM that mining also works without problems?).
The first block on the new chain is 74517 (74516 is the last that is still accepted by the old client).

The new Windows client is available at https://www.winc-ev.org/english/downloads-contact/. The electrum server is not updated yet. I try to look into this in the evening.

Thanks everyone for helping, Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 15, 2016, 09:53:40 AM
All seems to be well:

Code:
2016-12-15 09:23:09 AUX proof-of-work found 
 our hash: 1e39e84c18c74770ef1c8e4f418945692ec89d6d064857ec608d66f2f8b21194
 parent hash: 0000000000001a7c605f76c932222833cc1ddf7b66c105c6add7597643de6a8a
 target: 0000000000001c57610000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
2016-12-15 09:23:09 CBlock(hash=1e39e84c18c74770ef1c8e4f418945692ec89d6d064857ec608d66f2f8b21194, ver=1434976513, hashPrevBlock=27eb9c61addf372ddffeaa8909fcaa091da526f3051f375644ed078dd6b4c1f0, hashMerkleRoot=4f12a572822cb8eba8f60e4ce2ea187685f968e1575032e30527a3560c329910, nTime=1481793106, nBits=1a1c5761, nNonce=0, vtx=1)
2016-12-15 09:23:09   CTransaction(hash=4f12a572822cb8eba8f60e4ce2ea187685f968e1575032e30527a3560c329910, ver=2, vin.size=1, vout.size=2, nLockTime=0, nRefHeight=74758)
    CTxIn(COutPoint(0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, 4294967295), coinbase 0461571c1a010152)
    CTxOut(nValue=0.76293945, scriptPubKey=0358d664be278c4f70356fcbf707b9)
    CTxOut(nValue=75.53100586, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH160 83ae0eacd0f0)
  vMerkleTree: 4f12a572822cb8eba8f60e4ce2ea187685f968e1575032e30527a3560c329910
2016-12-15 09:23:09 generated 76.29394531

Good work - well done  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: c-cex on December 19, 2016, 07:47:58 PM
So as long as C-Cex

"version":80600 "blocks":75473
Should be fine for withdrawals. We will keep wallet online for some more days.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 20, 2016, 12:30:34 PM
So as long as C-Cex

"version":80600 "blocks":75473
Should be fine for withdrawals. We will keep wallet online for some more days.

You heard the guys. Thanks to the great support C-Cex.com is providing (updating the client to enable withdrawals again) withdrawals are still up for a few days!

Another thing: as i wrote in an earlier post, a someone from the financial autonomous zone from italy and i were thinking about rebranding the coin (changing only the logo and the name!) to have a better fitting shorter and straighter name.
Although the official voucher is still Worldleadcurrency i started the rebranding under: https://www.github.com/wincev/solidar and added an own page for the coin (https://solidar.it). Everybody interested please let me know what you think about it (This is only a first draft).

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 06, 2017, 08:10:33 PM
Hi World,

basic income Januar is payed:
8905075b0e192908e7d1f8a9b1354591904802d9e540793ada972c9b9de93132

For all those that get a warning using the old blockchain folder for the new version, please use
Code:
./worldleadcurrency -reindex

I try to work on an usable block explorer and ended up with bitcore-node. As i do not see how it could be ported i have to try some other (iquidus also produces too many errors) or sir daniel makes an block explorer for 0.1 BTC maybe that is an option.

For some reason the mining has stoped, so hopefully some miner will continue as soon as the bitcoin bubble popps.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on January 25, 2017, 08:15:00 PM
Any news dev?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on January 26, 2017, 03:17:12 PM
Any news dev?

Hi, i am working on the Facebook messenger integration and a bitcore blockchain explorer but it is all unfinished stuff. And i would really like to get the coin on an exchange again..
So, no not at the moment.


Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 02, 2017, 05:08:26 AM
Hello world,

basic income Feb17 is out:
txid: bcb14cfd8e49a8869138a549880c1ccef4ccf6016691dac45e43c90d480e09f6

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on February 07, 2017, 01:17:30 PM
The basic income payout in solidar via the facebook messenger is now open for testing.

To join send the solidar bot inside Facebook messenger a message, he should guide you through the process.

Please make sure to check your balance each month, because the payment is only granted to active users.

The interface to the WLC/Solidar network is not operational right now, but i am working on it.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on March 02, 2017, 08:08:46 PM
UBI Mach is payed:

badfbb7a98588c0d6bf85a5da124f40f664554eb30af24d7e9afdc9dfbabece6

shortlink to the facebook messenger bot: http://m.me/Solidar.Winc
To register send the message: join

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 01, 2017, 07:20:45 AM
Hello World,

UBI April is payed:
3f157113c9144d18acd34d7ff5b1b7e745e5ef18715964a8d96023505e6072a2

for everyone that is using the mobile coinomi wallet: The fee calculation is not correct, if you have coins on your wallet please wait until i fixed the calculation.
I will write here when i have a new version online.

Thanks to all miners that are still mining. These are rough times for Solidar/ WLC at the moment but i am in contact with the freiexchange.com dev, and we are planning to put Solidar online for trading again!.

Bye Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: crackfoo on April 28, 2017, 12:03:17 AM
I get this error trying to compile on ubuntu 16.04:

g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DOPENSSL_NO_SSL2=1 -I/home/src/WLC/src -I/home/src/WLC/src/obj -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/include -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/src/WLC/src/leveldb/include -I/home/src/WLC/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/auxpow.d -o obj/auxpow.o auxpow.cpp
In file included from script.h:15:0,
                 from auxpow.cpp:4:
bignum.h:14:18: fatal error: mpfr.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
makefile.unix:180: recipe for target 'obj/auxpow.o' failed
make: *** [obj/auxpow.o] Error 1

Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on April 28, 2017, 06:28:58 AM
I get this error trying to compile on ubuntu 16.04:

g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DOPENSSL_NO_SSL2=1 -I/home/src/WLC/src -I/home/src/WLC/src/obj -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/include -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/src/WLC/src/leveldb/include -I/home/src/WLC/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/auxpow.d -o obj/auxpow.o auxpow.cpp
In file included from script.h:15:0,
                 from auxpow.cpp:4:
bignum.h:14:18: fatal error: mpfr.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
makefile.unix:180: recipe for target 'obj/auxpow.o' failed
make: *** [obj/auxpow.o] Error 1

Any ideas?

Hi crackfoo, it is very likely that you forgot to install mpfr and gmp.

please install:

sudo apt-get install libgmp-dev
sudo apt-get install libmpfr-dev

to install the needed dependencies. If that doesn't fix it, don't hesitate to ask.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: crackfoo on April 30, 2017, 03:33:12 PM
I get this error trying to compile on ubuntu 16.04:

g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DOPENSSL_NO_SSL2=1 -I/home/src/WLC/src -I/home/src/WLC/src/obj -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/include -DUSE_UPNP=0 -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/src/WLC/src/leveldb/include -I/home/src/WLC/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/auxpow.d -o obj/auxpow.o auxpow.cpp
In file included from script.h:15:0,
                 from auxpow.cpp:4:
bignum.h:14:18: fatal error: mpfr.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
makefile.unix:180: recipe for target 'obj/auxpow.o' failed
make: *** [obj/auxpow.o] Error 1

Any ideas?

Hi crackfoo, it is very likely that you forgot to install mpfr and gmp.

please install:

sudo apt-get install libgmp-dev
sudo apt-get install libmpfr-dev

to install the needed dependencies. If that doesn't fix it, don't hesitate to ask.

Rik

ahh I missed libmpfr-dev somehow, thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on May 10, 2017, 05:03:25 PM
Nice to see some work being done on the new client on github.......


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 10, 2017, 06:26:37 PM
Nice to see some work being done on the new client on github.......

Yes, there were some changes over time. I guess i should really do a new version. But time is a limiting factor. Mostly its some rebranding.
 
But i urge everyone to install the new version from www.github.com/wincev/solidar. The changes are permanent and older wallets will not work anymore.

The facebook messenger bot is closed to be finished and i hope the coin will be on freiexchange asap. I will update the windows client also asap.
Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on May 10, 2017, 07:16:18 PM
Nice to see some work being done on the new client on github.......

Yes, there were some changes over time. I guess i should really do a new version. But time is a limiting factor. Mostly its some rebranding.
 
But i urge everyone to install the new version from www.github.com/wincev/solidar. The changes are permanent and older wallets will not work anymore.

The facebook messenger bot is closed to be finished and i hope the coin will be on freiexchange asap. I will update the windows client also asap.
Rik

So should we not be mining using the older wallet? Also, is it just a case of placing the old wallet dat file into the new wallet data directory? Are the ports & everything else the same?

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 11, 2017, 06:39:22 AM
Nice to see some work being done on the new client on github.......

Yes, there were some changes over time. I guess i should really do a new version. But time is a limiting factor. Mostly its some rebranding.
 
But i urge everyone to install the new version from www.github.com/wincev/solidar. The changes are permanent and older wallets will not work anymore.

The facebook messenger bot is closed to be finished and i hope the coin will be on freiexchange asap. I will update the windows client also asap.
Rik

So should we not be mining using the older wallet? Also, is it just a case of placing the old wallet dat file into the new wallet data directory? Are the ports & everything else the same?

Thanks.

Please don't use the old wallet anymore. Proceed as follow:
- Stop the client (older Solidar version or worldleadcurrency client).
- git clone from https://github.com/wincev/solidar.git
- compile and run.
-if you were using worldleadcurrency wallet you maybe also should copy the wallet.dat file from .worldleadcurrency/ to .solidar/

We had to adjust the mining, because it was calculated with much more Basicincome accounts so please make sure everyone use the newest version.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on August 03, 2017, 07:39:00 PM
Hello World,

i am sorry for the long time with no update but there i was active a lot in the freicoin forum with some stuff that should also help solidar. I wanna thank all those that still support the coin and those that gotten fresh into it. With Bitcoin on the edge to a new ATH it may be a push for many coins and i hope that includes Solidar. With the freicoin community we were now able to get Solidar onto the Freiexchange.com what means a lot to me because that means long time support of the coin and even demurrage will be included in the next version of Freiexchange beta portal.
The next thing is that the Freicoin community helped to get a working block explorer online what also means a lot to the coin as the former were crashing often.
And as a third addition we now pay 10 SLR per month of unconditional income in our facebook messenger bot m.me/solidar.winc -> i hope you like the project and tell your friends about it.

In summary there is now;
1. Again an exchange for SLR www.freiexchange.com
2. A block explorer to check balances: http://slr.sicanet.net/chain/Solidar
3. The facebook bot to receive an income www.m.me/solidar.winc
4. and i forgot there is now a section at freicoinallianceforum for Solidar https://freicoinalliance.com/forum/53-general-discussion/

Please also look in the forum because i can not post all information here. Thanks a lot! And please ask if you need some assistance.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: crackfoo on August 03, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
did you know SLR ticker is already taken by SolarCoin?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on August 03, 2017, 11:01:23 PM
did you know SLR ticker is already taken by SolarCoin?

I know that this could be confusing but i do not think that it is too much as SolarCoin should be $SLC and they are very closed in their customer selection, while we address everyone. However i will keep the option open to rename the ticker to $SLDR if there are any Problems in the future. Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on August 16, 2017, 08:35:30 AM
did you know SLR ticker is already taken by SolarCoin?

Ok, i looked into it and as i want to get Solidar listed on the coinmarketcap page where Solarcoin is already present i will change the ticker to SDR. I hope i do not cross any other project with this *g*. The ticker in the wallet stays SLR until the next update, so dont be confused.

Anyway, please use the possibility to trade your Solidar at Freiexchange.com we could need some Volume there. The exchange has a great support, a telegram group for questions and news and the possibility to buy exchangeshares for the payout of a part of the fees earned by the exchange.

Additionally we want to bring the bot to Telegram and Whatsapp (maybe more in the future) so you can link your other messengers accounts once you created your facebook bot account via sending our bot at m.me/solidar.winc the message: join. For further informations and discussions see the freicoinallliance forum -https://freicoinalliance.com/forum/53-general-discussion/.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 06, 2017, 02:32:36 PM
My windoze Solidar wallet is no longer syncing, giving a warning:

"Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."

I re-downloaded the wallet from solidar.it but the version is still v0.8.6.0-unk-beta, whereas my linux daemon versions are v0.8.6.1 - which has also stopped syncing.

Any nodes/ideas anyone? Or is this coin on the brink?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 06, 2017, 04:26:21 PM
My windoze Solidar wallet is no longer syncing, giving a warning:

"Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."

I re-downloaded the wallet from solidar.it but the version is still v0.8.6.0-unk-beta, whereas my linux daemon versions are v0.8.6.1 - which has also stopped syncing.

Any nodes/ideas anyone? Or is this coin on the brink?

No not at all! please delete the blockchain and reload it (of course keep the wallet.dat. That sould fix the error the version has indeed changed, it should now show another version. I will look into it. As long as you have the wallet from solidar.it /the sourcecode form https://github.com/wincev/solidar it should be fine.

Please also see our solidar facebook bot https://m.me/solidar.winc and our tipbot on twitter https://twitter.com/SolidarTip, which are really usefull when you want to receive an unconditional income in solidar or tip anyone with a twitter account.

If there are any questions please ask here or in the freicoinalliance forum.

Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 06, 2017, 04:58:45 PM
My windoze Solidar wallet is no longer syncing, giving a warning:

"Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."

I re-downloaded the wallet from solidar.it but the version is still v0.8.6.0-unk-beta, whereas my linux daemon versions are v0.8.6.1 - which has also stopped syncing.

Any nodes/ideas anyone? Or is this coin on the brink?

No not at all! please delete the blockchain and reload it (of course keep the wallet.dat. That sould fix the error the version has indeed changed, it should now show another version. I will look into it. As long as you have the wallet from solidar.it /the sourcecode form https://github.com/wincev/solidar it should be fine.

Please also see our solidar facebook bot m.me/solidar.winc and our tipbot on twitter https://twitter.com/SolidarTip, which are really usefull when you want to receive an unconditional income in solidar or tip anyone with a twitter account.

If there are any questions please ask here or in the freicoinalliance forum.

Rik

OK, I'll try that - any nodes available?


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 06, 2017, 05:48:19 PM
My windoze Solidar wallet is no longer syncing, giving a warning:

"Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."

I re-downloaded the wallet from solidar.it but the version is still v0.8.6.0-unk-beta, whereas my linux daemon versions are v0.8.6.1 - which has also stopped syncing.

Any nodes/ideas anyone? Or is this coin on the brink?

No not at all! please delete the blockchain and reload it (of course keep the wallet.dat. That sould fix the error the version has indeed changed, it should now show another version. I will look into it. As long as you have the wallet from solidar.it /the sourcecode form https://github.com/wincev/solidar it should be fine.

Please also see our solidar facebook bot m.me/solidar.winc and our tipbot on twitter https://twitter.com/SolidarTip, which are really usefull when you want to receive an unconditional income in solidar or tip anyone with a twitter account.

If there are any questions please ask here or in the freicoinalliance forum.

Rik

OK, I'll try that - any nodes available?

seed.winc-ev.com should load automatically..

BTW, Iam active in the freicoin/solidar telegram group also. https://t.me/freicoin


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on December 19, 2017, 06:32:26 PM
A reindex fixed it, thanks.

Another small issue though, I've been waiting over 22 hours for a deposit to be confirmed on Freixchange, still pending. Is it always this slow? It makes trading near impossible.


Title: Re: [ANN] [WLC] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on December 19, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
Hi, yes that is a problem at the moment. But it depends on mining activity and hashpower according to difficulty level. As the hashpower is fluctuating there can be long pauses.
Please understand that we cannot do much about the situation. Until a miner with enough hashpower supports the merge minng algorythm these problems will persist.
Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: IconFirm on May 10, 2019, 10:10:28 AM
What's this?:

https://github.com/wincev/SOLIDAR/commit/e9a272bd933eb08659575a55e7b8549713b4719d

Changing to POS?


Title: Re: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 12, 2019, 07:10:32 AM
What's this?:

https://github.com/wincev/SOLIDAR/commit/e9a272bd933eb08659575a55e7b8549713b4719d

Changing to POS?

The mining has stopped since a while. The problem is that some miners drive up the difficulty and then its stuck when they stop mining. It happened several times up to date. Like peercoin POW (Or for Solidar Merge Mining) will also be possible. Solidar is still Version 0.86 and far behind Bitcoin, so I try to implement some improvements also included in Freicoin at the same time. This will be a larger update, so it takes some time but I think it will help a lot.

Greetings Rik


Title: Re: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: pool operator on October 13, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
pool  Solidar coin  https://smithpool.net (https://smithpool.net)

conf for miners (-a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://smithpool.dynu.net:3333 -u yourwalletaddress -p c=SDR)

conf for miners high difficulty (-a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://smithpool.dynu.net:13333 -u yourwalletaddress -p c=SDR)

for high difficulty  nicehash or miningrigrental add only  ,d =your diff or port dedicate 13333

example -a sha256 -o stratum+tcp://smithpool.dynu.net:3333 -u yourwalletaddress -p c=SDR,d=1000000  or whatever you want

block explorer  https://smithpool.net/explorer/SDR (https://smithpool.net/explorer/SDR)
 
discord support and coin request  https://discord.gg/Zy5esd6 (https://discord.gg/Zy5esd6)


low fee .... good job


Title: Re: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 18, 2020, 08:50:26 AM
Hello fellow humans ;-),

it's been a long way and the last Altcoin bearmarket was very long and extreme. Though some still use the bot network (m.me/solidar.winc (http://m.me/solidar.winc); t.me/solidar_bot (http://t.me/solidar_bot); twitter.com/solidarcurrency (http://twitter.com/solidarcurrency)) to receive an unconditional SDR income, many lost faith and left. Resources were reduced and relocated.

Because the old websites (winc-ev.org and solidar.it) got suspended I'm working on a new one (winc-ev.com & solidar.winc-ev.com).

There were some improvements I had to make to the Solidar network that I am now to implement (not all but most).
There will be a new wallet soon (for now only the code and no execcutables).

The idea is to bring some people on board that lost money due to the failure of other projects. Right now I try to get some rescue fund operational for LIFE token holders, since they are likely to understand the Solidar mission.

As soon as the changes are uploaded and tested I will announce the new version here.

As always any help is apreciated (designing twitter banner, coin videos, help coding a seeder e.t.c.).

Yours,
P.h.D. Hendrik Richter.


Title: Re: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on May 30, 2020, 08:19:05 PM
However, the new client version 8.9.0 is available at https://github.com/wincev/solidar.
If you run into problems, please contact me here, in twitter (@WINC_ev) or via winc.association@gmail.com.
Helping compiling the wallet for different systems or just testing would be welll appreciated. New website (winc-ev.com) in progress.
And don't forget to sign up for an unconditional monthly payment in Solidar at (send: /join):
t.me/solidar_bot
m.me/solidar.winc
or DM to: Twitter.com/SolidarCurrency

Rik.


Title: Re: [ANN] [SDR] Solidar fka WorldLeadCurrency a Freigeld coin for a basic income
Post by: rik8119 on September 09, 2020, 02:38:55 PM
New Website is now available.. winc-ev.com.
Keep your Heads up.
Best Wishes.

P.S. After a year of very long block creation times I adjusted the difficulty filter and the block times should be back to normal soon.