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Why moderator Russian section adheres to its own rules, not the rules of the forum? Russian section cluttered referral topics; users often openly insult each other; off topic posts or flooding have become the norm.
Moderator simply openly ignores the violation of forum rules and probably for a long time. For example: i'm talking about spam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902502.msg10487423#msg10487423) -> moderator said "Crypto-anarchism, all that.  ::)"

People are talking about not moderated section -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794025.0

Most of those enshrined in sections no longer relevant and partitioning is only conditional. For example: thread about pool.itzod.ru (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25127.0) and 50btc.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54578.0) pools in "miners" section.

General section in almost all HYIPs and referral topics: https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Fboard%3D10.0&edit-text=&act=url

And one more thing as a small presentation: look at section for newbies (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-3MolZtmJdjGGSVR3kRSzVu56RPtcP7bC-fV-KscBLs/edit?usp=sharing).

What does all of this our moderator? It seems that he had to do this, just do not care or was not interested (long ago). It just takes only its own thread (with a referral link of course) and all.

I do not propose to choose a new moderator himself as someone has already had time to think. I just want to in the Russian section was the order (as in English forum).

Sorry for my bad english I offered more than a week ago to create a similar theme here those who know English well, but people are lazy, or perhaps fear that they will condemn.

Apparently the moderator of the section is LZ, he/she isn't probably that active. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=462
His profile shows us that he hasn't been on for 2 days although that doesn't necessarily tell us that he isn't active.
Do you regularly report posts?

Agreed. I noticed this ref spam today and talked about other moderators. The best thing you can do is report posts now. I'm handling newbie posts and report others.

the mod can't clean Ukraine and the Russian forum section at the same time...  ::) (sorry it's a joke, I don't want to offend anyone by this one :D, I still find it funny, in a way).

Also, as far as I remember, xandry is the only one that reports ref spam in the Russian board. I handle it on spot whenever I see it as well(but me and Eal can only act on newbie reports from the Russian board).

I processed a bunch of russian section reports today. As long as the reports are in english, and I don't need to understand russian to verify it (eg. referral links), then I'll process them.

You should create a topic in the Russian section to discuss whether a new moderator is necessary and, if so, who the new moderator should be. (Do not take a vote, though.) If there is consensus that one or more specific people should be made moderators, then I will (almost always) do it.

bump

was a consensus reached? I noticed a huge backlog of russian reports that need to be processed.

Yep. As I wrote here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=978676.msg10688056#msg10688056), most users (25 to 22) voted in favor of the absence of moderator in the Russian section\remain in the same situation as now.

The only one who handles the reports over the past few months is a global moderator i think.

• Many people do not like to lose the ability to place a ton of referral links.
• Someone in favor of the absence of moderator in the Russian section. Because it must be anarchy (i don't know why confuse cryptoanarchy and anarchy).
• Someone important to be able to write useless or low value posts just to them counted in signature campaigns.

So I decided not to raise this issue.

Edited: removed references to the message of our moderator with his referral link.
Sorry for poor english.

You should discuss this and not vote. A vote is easily manipulated.

There is moderation, except it's currently by people who can't read russian. There needs to be a moderator there. Was there a consensus on this disregarding the folks who want no moderation?

Oh, I was not careful... although the vote is still carried out not by me.
Just what we need to change something. New moderator has not yet chosen.

We do not need a new moderator, and so we are satisfied.
Sory my english, google-translate.

Translate the first post. Current moderator isn't doing the job well!

"Пepeвecти пepвый пocт. Teкyщий мoдepaтop нe дeлaть paбoтy xopoшo!"


I think there is some mistakes in your translation or you want to violate forum rules.

"Я дyмaю, чтo ecть нeкoтopыe oшибки в вaшeм пepeвoдe, или вы xoтитe, чтoбы нapyшaть пpaвилa фopyмa."


   -MZ

well it does its job. First post is only one point of view of the user who not so long ago on the forum.

My point of view is one of many. All threads in our section about bad moderation in russian board was created not by me. Also it isn't necessary to be the old participant of a forum to notice that in the section a mess.  ;)

From the posts I can see there....a lot of threads exists only to host ref link spam. Probably, one moderator is not enough to handle the Whole Russian local board.

you do realize that referral links will still be removed even without a new russian moderator, right?

It is good idea to get a better mod. Some of the posts allow us to put our referral links and without understanding the content, it would be hard to moderate.

But not only this, russian local board are in need of a deep wash.

   -MZ

Yes of course. I found this out by accident from Muhammed topic.

I don't think that Russian board needs new moderator.
Guy who started "threads in our section about bad moderation in russian board" just wants to be moderator himself because he thinks that moderators earn at least 1BTC monthly from forum earnings. I can prove it.

BTW, I think we need not new moderators but official forum rules.
Why every small forum with 1.5 members has official rules but not bitcointalk with 460767 total members?
That's why any moderator can interpret forum rules as he wants.

After such rules will be written I can translate them to Russian.
Many problems in Russian board appears because people just don't know rules (that absent).

Come on, please.  8)
Just do not forget to specify on which of the topic you're talking about.

Think before you write or atleast read before you write. BTW, what's wrong in that? If the moderation is bad, person who knows forum rules should become nee mod.


Haven't you checked the sticky? It explains fully. :-\

I answered in separate tread because it is mostly off topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=987366.0

Please, take into account that I can ask my question because I can speak English. But 80% of Russian cannot.
They need simple and understandable explanation of forum rules in Russian.

IF You know English and then You can read rules in such a Language You cannot invoke the fact that rules are not written in Russian Language as an excuse.
By the while, why are not translating and explaining rules to your fellow Russian board members?
Don't be selfish and help your community since You can!

Cдeлaйтe мeня мoдepaтopoм, и тoгдa вceм кpeмлeбoтaм, Exdath'aм, Boйд'aм, кpaнoвщикaм и yдвoитeлям нacтaнeт пиздa. T.e. oни, кoнeчнo, ocтaнyтcя, нo кaждый в cвoeм пoдpaздeлe  ;D Ha ocтaльнoe мнe пoфигy. Xoтя бы нa нeдeлькy, я вce этo дepьмo вычищy пepeнocoм в cooтвeтcтвyющиe тeмы. A пoтoм caми peшитe, ocтaвлять кaк ecть или вepнyть кaк былo.
зы
И дeнeг нe нaдo.

You have to ONLY-post in English in main boards (Meta included)! How other users are supposed to understand what you are saying, if you don't?
Please stick to forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)!

I'll answer this from what I could read:
It is rare that someone becomes a moderator by asking here. Theymos usually picks a long standing member who's very active and has a high number of good reports.
Moderators don't really get much money anyways.

Note: I'm pretty sure that it's not allowed to write in any other language except English outside the local boards. I'm not gonna report this one, but give you time to update it.

Due to the fact that at the moment Russian section completely released from moderation, and candidates for this position has already gathered a few pieces, I propose to make a decision by voting.
Ready to create the subject and present the results. Thank you.

What about this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794025.0) topic? There are already a few days discussing ways of voting.  ;)

As this is about Russian local board, he is allowed to post in Russian. It is an exception and it was posted by a staff(or Admin).


Votes can be faked easily. theymos said to discuss but no poll.

No this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.0

Here everything will be decided in one night   ;)

Well, let's discuss.

LOL
yo-blin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=48075) proposed to vote by sending fixed amounts to the wallets of candidates; transfers only from verified users forum; further voice of the user is multiplied by the number of his activity.
This can cut off the spammers with referral links, users with multiply accounts, and it considers the user's rank at a forum.

It is bad option of carrying out vote? The question is rather to theymos...

Well, as voted?  ;D

It has not yet started. As you can be convinced.  :)

• We don't know, whether will arrange such option of carrying out vote of administrators.
• Conditions of promotion of candidates weren't discussed.
• Candidates weren't proposed.
• Candidates didn't give the consent to involvement.

While there will be bureaucratic delays, we will choose a moderator.
By the way, while wins connoisseur of Western values  ;)

I don't think that these choices will be recognized by someone because:

For Bitcointalk administration:

Never give any moderation permissions to these people:

@Balthazar (he is a well-known scammer)
@Pivo (he sold his account some time ago to russian propagandists)
@stahanovec (@Pivo's clone account)

Thanks

Have you the proofs of what are you saying ? However as the other users said and also theymos, you should discuss in your section and agree on a qualify user and after get in touch with him (it is the best, good & possible method).

Well, we'll discuss it

Yes, there are proofs on this. You can find them in the Russian section.

Updated:
About @Pivo and @stahanovec: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D555901.0

About @Balthazar: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D251998.0&edit-text=
More about @Balthazar: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D257756

I also made mirros of these pages so don't even try to edit or remove them.

-Greed-, you decided to help me in selling accounts?   ;D

If you put an additional moderator. Please! Do not forget our foundation - Crypto-anarchism. Without totalitarianism please.

Do not overdo, and then step left, step right shooting ..

I could go on, but alas, the rules will not let me speak freely. For Crypto-anarchism, very, very bad.

Thanks!

Nope, he can't provide anything except regular blahblahblah. Nothing but worthless claims by anonymous person.

Sounds almost like "-Greed- is a faggot, there are proofs on this.. You can see them somewhere.". Congratulations, you just made another retarded statement.

Thanks for the links, however theymos has the final decision and he will choose the new moderator so I think he will check all the possible users (that can be mod) before give him the honor to manage the russian section.

[sarcasm]Thanks for your opinion. You are gonna be a very qualified mod.[/sarcasm]

-Greed-

It's unfortunately but sarcasm won't help you while you're referring to arithmetically inconsistent claims, which are contradicting the common sense.

By the way,

[sarcasm]I always wanted to be a moderator of this trash can.[/sarcasm]

Sure, the claims are false and I'm lying. Are you happy now? You can now leave. :-*

What about mods - I recomend to choose one of these two: neiros (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21182) (very trustworthy, 2011) and becool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=80098) (he was a mod in the btc-e chat).

Hm, that's very weird. Note that I have never said that your claims are false and you're lying...  As far I remember, I only said that "you're referring to arithmetically to inconsistent claims which are contradicting even the common sense".

Thank you for the clarification,


 ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=462 The moderator was last active about a month ago.


What??!!! All candidates are political activists?

Sometimes he come back and make his work.

Thread in Russian section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.0

There is no one good (adequate) candidate. Trust me: I'm anonymous and don't have any reason to lie. All good peoples are busy..

Well.. A moderator should be active at least once a week otherwise there would be no use for one. That's only my opinion though.

Also, I don't understand Russian.

Many threads in section is self-moderatred now. Peoples learn (I' sure) form properties and our society is progressing. Active moderator can easily brake some aspects..

Pivo created a topic in the political section and all 3 candidates in vote list generally write only the political section. That what i said "LOL".  :D
You shouldn't take them very seriously.

Yup (http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/67574.html). Check the rank. It is biggest opposition site. Propagandists, liars, like RussiaToday (TV)
Including me, but I'm trying to resist them. As neiros, xalexiv, CyberMOS

But we are in the minority. Better to let anarchy without a moderator. What proapagandist. Propagandist (analogous to the CIA). When it will be the moderator, he will have access to IP users. Then, some will be killed. As recently Nemtsov.
Propagandists flooding. And taps. And doublers. I have access to fresh orders (instructions) for the propagandists. I can quickly identify and clean them all.

Look at this. He does not know about the cryptographic signature of btc adress. Does not belong to the community of BTC

If you are talking about me, then It is paranoia. I simply use online wallet without possibility of the signature, therefore only I read about it.

The Russian section needs to do its part in removing spam. You can't expect global moderators who can't even speak Russian to handle all of this. Some moderator will probably have to be chosen, even if he isn't perfect.


Only administrators have access to user IPs.

A terrible secret is revealed, have to admit. We all camouflaged alien reptiles "green men" sent to Earth to control the minds of patriots of Ukraine: neiros, xalexiv, CyberMOS and so on...  ;D

theymos, please choose two of the moderators, me and Balthazar, if he does not mind. I can moderate such topics as politics and below. Balthazar - directly in the sections related to mining.

Thank you.

I think xandry would be good enough to moderate. I can't judge on his trustworthiness but I might able to judge on his judgements on others' posts by looking his reports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0;all).

Very nice joke

~Year ago You public documents about Balthazar scam activities and today You recommend him ? WTH ?

Next 3 (but you can find more) thread about Balthazar from users:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251998.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247603.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966498.0

theymos, there is no good candidates today.

I can recommend ArsenShnurkov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3386), but he is offline since January 03, 2015, 02:20:08 AM :(

Balthazar might have tipped him! ;)


What is your opinion about making xandry as moderator? I know he doesn't have enough trust/trade feedback but he is good at judging IMHO. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0;all

Weak newbie person (sorry) to moderator..it is not serious.

I think we need in "white hat hacker"..

ps: I remember my very bad story how I made contact with [Tycho] (old moderator of russian section). LZ is good, but offline. I try to contact with LZ.

+1. I think so, me too. Also, I don't think actual mod need to be removed since he may be helpful to the new one even if log in only a few times per month. 2 mods are better than 1 mod. IMHO, at least.

Reports isn't way when moderatos is not active. He never directly contact with trolls and spammer. If you are in interesting how it can be - please, transate my messages (there are many long stories).
Trolls are not smart except Exdeath - he is smart but troll.

theymos, if admins really think that russian section must be clean, than please allow me:
- move threads
- split threads

without any other rights

The accusation is not proof. The more I learn Balthazar, the more I am inclined to think that it was a trivial mistake.

Or You have your evidence on this score?

Re-read user messages about Balthazar and rethink Your position. You can be wrong again. Balthazar has very bad reputation and you know about that!

Can you present the proofs?  :D

For credibility, I suggest to put more exclamation marks   ;D

IMHO, moderator should be an hero or legendary account.

I don't want to be involved in this "story" but can I ask you a couple of things : do you know the forum rules? What is your percentage of *report? If you don't want to reply, it is not a problem.

Thanks for the attention.

Please don't look at the rank. Rank doesn't give anything additional when judging, you need to know the rules and to know how to judge. There is a Jr. Member who is a mod. I think Member is better than Jr. Member. So he is eligible to be a mod.

However, just my opinion.

I would gladly answered, but I do not understand the essence of your question  ::)

A member who know all the forum rules, are you kidding me? It could be better to add a good & legit person and it seems theymos is who will decide the name not the Rusha localBoard users.

Btw, what is happened to LZ? Has he some problem in the real life?

Wi-Fu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96407), go under your name  :D

Why? Yep, Wi-Fu is my account too, but peoples know about that. Take a look at Mavro-dev (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=151753) - it's me too.

We are so accustomed   ;)


Who knows? For example, I didn't know, but just guessing on the style of writing.

Wi-Fu I considered a friend, but you apparently didn't think so, since you are not warned.

And people have the audacity to accuse me of forgery accounts  :D

I am curious to know your stats, if you do not want then it is not a problem. I think a "good" moderator should be an honest and helpful person, at the end the rank doesn't matter at all, and we know if the russian users will not agree at one person ,theymos will choose one name.

It's not a question of rank, it's question of authority.
Man who reported posts for 10k satoshi per report will never have authority in Russian board.

I know after that comment he will start to report my posts but I'm ready for that.

Dear, I don't keep statistics of their complaints   ;D

Go to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=961364.84;msg=10778857 and tell me what you see.

In old mavrocoin thread I wrote that. I'm planning completely stop to use this (Mr.Anonymous) account at Jan-Feb 2015, but now I need to develop mavrocoin project because 2 of 3 (exclude me) project owners leave project and miners with mavrocoins. It was long story, I invite You to examine situation, my friend.

If this turns into one of those drama threads again, then there is something really wrong with the people around here. The forum is not the same as before.
Ultimately whatever atrocious things you say about each other will be (more or less) ignored, and theymos will decide. So why do it in the first place?

My stat: You have reported 31 posts with 100% accuracy  :)

I offer to create 'Spam' board in section and give me and to adequate users next right:
- split thread (to create sub-threads and cleanup from off-topics)
- move threads (spam-thread move to 'spam' section that can be auto-clean in 30 days, for example)

So, no one new moderator need in this case!

Please, comment out.

Good. Accuracy isn't bad but low amount of reports.


Be honest. Don't be angry because your referral link spams are being reported by xandry.

@xandry and Gran_Voyageur: Can you please post your stats? Thank you!

That means if you become a mod, no new mod isn't needed?

No - no. There is no deletion rights.
I offer to delegate to old users this 2 rights without become a mod.
Often I want to spit thread from off-top but I very often see in other forums how moderators make mistakes and delete threads.
I know good why rights and rules often brake good things, it is not good. It is why I'm stay anonymous.

But If more good peoples will have this rights I can be free. I don't want to be a mod. Sorry, but I can't accept as leader a stupid user, scammer, looser or newbie too. It is critical for me. And If no one adequate candidate here, I'm ready to work 1 or 2 days and split and mode threads in Russian section. That is why I'm in this thread.

I know that theymos is smart  enough and know what I mean. Trust me. It is not end of story.

Dude, you need a psychiatric help. :D

Sorry for offtopic.

The moderator of the Russian section must be Russian!

Sorry! I thought he is a Russian.

Haven't you got one person who doesn't have any accusation from others? It is better to check how xandry* moderate the board and if he misuse, he can be removed easily.

* Assuming you have got no one else who can be a mod.

Are we turning this thread in a "My dick is bigger stats are better than yours" contest? What the point of everyone showing his own stats when theymos already have access to updated & accurate stats for every bitcointalk user? Also, since accuracy was to be determined by Mods action, user posted stats are not good one since being biased in favor of people not reporting in Russian local board because due to LZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=462) low moderation activity scores of reports are pending (thus not adding or removing to reporting users accuracy). Only theymos as an admin has total absolute count of good reports from everyone.

http://i57.tinypic.com/206mtth.png
This is the last screenshot i took, before sending my last report. Since then the mods took action deleting the reported post. Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.msg10778266#msg10778266), the proof.

May be panic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=42777) ?

Or/and may be IIpeBeD_MeDBeD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=192602)

You understand that the accusations may be false. Guarantees also have a subjective character.
In whom I can be certain of, it is only yourself. Experience an impartial moderator I already have.

Do you mean a Native Russian or simply a user proficient enough (TPКИ-2 or higher) on Russian Language? I don't think having a passport of a Nation State should be required to do moderation in forums.


As I said above I don't think a local passport should be a requisite to moderate in a local board. I think it should suffice that a perspective mod be proficient enough - Upper Intermediate at least - in the local language. IMHO an user can be a mod in the Russian local board if he's at least a TPКИ-2 or higher level speaker/writer of Russian as a 2nd language.
Just be clear enough, I'm an early elementary level speaker/writer of Russian - got a few lessons - but I'm not active at all in Russian board due to the huge mess of spam it is; however, sometime (sadly, few) I saw some nice thread there. Actually, I've not so much spare time to dedicate to bitcointalk forum so, I cannot be a candidate mod there. So, I'll keep reporting post that maybe are against the forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) to mod attention (final action/say is their).

Are you calling out for me to comment or someone else?
Because really it doesn't matter. I don't know who you are, and searching is just a waste of my (already very limited) time. From what I've just read you aren't very good in English, but it's still decent.
I was thinking, can BadBear also pick out moderators or is it Theymos only?

Technically, the moderator may be even Chinese. But the Chinese never catch the whole meaning written in the Russian section. So he must be Russian  ;)

I don't agree at all with your assertion. A TPКИ-2 level foreign user can understand the main ideas of complex text on both concrete and abstract topics, including technical discussions in his/her field of specialization, can interact with a degree of fluency and spontaneity that makes regular interaction with native speakers quite possible without strain for either party, can produce clear, detailed text on a wide range of subjects and explain a viewpoint on a topical issue giving the advantages and disadvantages of various options.
However, if you want "humor" to be recognized a proficient user like the ones at the TPКИ-3 and TPКИ-4 maybe up to the task.

I could have agreed with you IF you were saying majority of Chinese users are not at levels high enough to be a TPКИ-2, -3 or -4.

You are ready to discuss it in the Russian section?   ;D

http://i.gyazo.com/f58dc7e98fa8856e9e3b1252f3fd729a.png
Many messages aren't deleted as I reported about them when thought that we have a moderator who though sometimes checks reports (this is reports on russian language about flood, off topic and spam). And I don't hurry to report about the most part of messages with referral links though there is a lot of them (even considering this exceptions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=987366.msg10763976#msg10763976)).
I simply don't think, what it badly to report about violations of the rules, especially as their such huge number. At the majority of forums where I was, it is considered normal because promotes development of community. And it in the majority Russian-speaking forums. But only not in the Russian section of this forum...
To me not important who exactly violates rules, because it not personal, rules one for all. It is a lot of my reports on messages of users: Exdeath (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63629), ZRoman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=359128), Glebonator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366166), Manul (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=386338), but they bad didn't tell anything to me (at least, I never read such).
He simply very seldom visits a forum. Here other user writes about it at the beginning of this year:
Translation:

I agree moderate section, but it would be better to have more co-moderators to subsections.

@Grand_Voyageur, @Muhammed Zakir: thanks for recommendations.  :)

Hm, no thanks.

Recommendation - that's good. It is even better when they are given in the Russian section.

By the way, why did not you say Russian that stand as a candidate? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.0

Sorry, but I don't consider your topic with votes seriously as well as who writes many there.  ;)
I do not think I can get any good recommendations from the many russian users - I'm not an old member of the forum, and more spammers do not like me (and the percentage is still noticeable any), because I hindering them make some cents.

of course they didn't tell anything because they all are banned :)
I don't want to be banned that's why I created this tread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=987366.0) and asked moderators what I'm doing wrong.
that's why I started to rewise and fix errors in my old posts by myself.
but you anyway reported my october's post right after somebody mentioned me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.msg10773232#msg10773232) as possible candidate to moderators of Russian board.
that's why I thought you have something personal against me.

I thought so   ;)

Thank you for inauguration, but I'm already responsible for moderation on three resourses and there is not so much free time to add another one into this list.  ::)

Really most of users in russian subforum don't understand who these people are (xandry and Gran_Voyageur).
Both registered recently in september 2014.

Haha, what a fucking hypocrite. :D

My suggestion, better choice for Russian forum is: mr. Proper (http://ambassadors.epithimies.gr/gr/p/c//uploads/mr-proper/2013/09/slideshow01.jpg)

In this case, it is possible to arrange the voting of the second moderator of those who wished:

Uran    
SectorZero    
Yaremi

I can recommend these guys as candidates:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26007
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34419
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=42514
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44590
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53310
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53816
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79882
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88300
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142332
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149329


All are politically neutral and trustworthly. I think that some of them even didn't posted in the political section.

It's not true: two of the four users posts written yesterday, one didn't visit a forum half a year, i'm not sure only about Manul.
Yep, probably we the American or Ukrainian spies also arrange revolution here to seize power in the Russian section... you need to watch less propaganda-oriented TV shows.  ;)

What are you suggesting for with such wording? Please write things clearly...
Also theymos knows all users IP...don't be afraid.

We all know that such measure as comparison of IPs doesn't worth anything. ;)

A lot of people write to me: Become a candidate.
Therefore I propose to himself.
1. crypto-anarchist.
2. Political views: indifferent
3. A lot of free time

Doesn't confuse you, what this person doesn't want that the russian section was moderated?
Translation:

IF taken alone you may be right but recently in another thread someone suggested Admin & Staff were using also browser fingerprints to determine alt-accounts.  ;)

However, if you want to know if my account & xandry's one are related... No, they aren't.
Only thing we may have in common is posting proof of our reports to mods, here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0).

I'm sorry for not being part of the conspiracy someone want to believe in & see.

Nope, because it's not my business. ;)

Browser fingerprinting is even less valuable.

Just use

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxomitron

or any other filtering utility and you'll be able to create dozens of accounts without any matching attributes.

I'm supporting this candidate (fsb4000).
Ok, i understanding.
Maybe it's because you promised them not to change anything?  ;)

Translation:

Hope, You're making irony here.

http://i58.tinypic.com/2yty2v6.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/281vs03.png

That's because you've modified your trust settings.
Using default settings this is what I see:
https://i.imgur.com/5lky6Eg.png

I'm not sure how trust and bans affect the decision while picking a moderator. I don't remember anyone really clarifying that.

xandry, You do not distinguish where the joke, and where not. This suggests a biased attitude towards the problem.

What is your benefit?

Russian section is not moderated. It is not so!

Not enough moderators. Russian Bitcoin community second capacity and size in our forum. Thus the need for additional moderators.

LaudaM, Grand_Voyageur

I've picked them because I have reason to trust them.

I think this so-called "trust system" is a kind of masturbation because it's almost equally worthless. :)

That because he does not watching for the events that take place there.

Yes, I've excluded CanaryInTheMine from trust list. Have you looked at the scores of thread about his abuse of DefaultTrust, recently?

===>>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2

===>>> http://gyazo.com/cf1928aee5b4b9fb44de50778843d5dc

+1

fsb4000 is a good candidate as a moderator. Once I have voted for him.

Is this sarcasm or ..? I don't even know Russian.  :D
Anyhow if you really trust me, thank you.  ;)

Sorry, I haven't touched the default list aside from adding 1 person. I've stayed out of most of the forum drama.

Please take note that I'm not questioning your trust in them. You may trust them above any other user, because you may trust their judgement on others. I just pointed out that some users on bitcointalk left to him some negative feedback like the following: Leaving fake feedback, Accepts bribes from Butterfly Labs to game forums Trust system.

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F281vs03.png&t=550&c=OImPxcIRvu1YIw

Personally, I may have reservation about supporting such a candidate to a moderator post; however, if you trust him you've the right to support him, just don't assume others would support him as well or Admin/Staff agree on him.

Edit: Balthazar...from your list ShadowAlexey (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44590) and core (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88300) seems a lot more palatable than fsb4000 for a mod position. At least to me, I cannot assure you others may share my opinion or Staff my find them reliable & fit as mods.

fsb4000 is a good candidate. But he have some problem.

1) He fanatically configured to alternative operating systems. (Linux)

Which could lead to harassment of Linux users.

2) He is a fan of NovaCoin.

This can lead to unfair promotion coins.

Despite this, he is a good and clever colleague  ;)

No, this means that my message was an answer to your one. :)

Move to proprietarytalk.org if you trust the proprietary software.

Political trolls (propagandists):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23324
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102276
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=42514
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112138
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=189471
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=163342
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=133293
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=156665
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366987
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=72092
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53816
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355801
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96407
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459043
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290159
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=146569
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249894
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=115966
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=290159

Perhaps there are still many non-active, less active.

Bнимaниe! Caution! Achtung! Typical demotard has been detected in the thread! :D

Q: What's the difference between democrat and demotard?
A: Oh it is quite simple, demotard won't accept any criticism of his point of view.


Any demotard thinks that criticism is enough to label you as the propagandist and apply some repressive measures... Which is nothing but another proof of his weakness. C'mon, you guys are such a joke. ;D

I am a political activist? :D :D :D Why do you lie so?

UraN inadequate....

Let's be honest here. Here are not fools gathered

I'll be honest and I think so!  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971277.msg10611474#msg10611474
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=970342.msg10612589#msg10612589
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=970342.msg10593974#msg10593974
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=967894.msg10599056#msg10599056
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.msg10604480#msg10604480
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114643.msg10582949#msg10582949

So what? Where there is evidence that I am a political activist?

Uranus, you are healthy?

I want to note that all those who spoke out against the west and Ukraine to the opinion of Uranus political activists.
I anarchist, I admit. What I am against the policy of the West, and in general against any of politics and government.  ;)

Okay, cross out yourself


My recommendation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62573
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36291

You are fun..
Also in real wold, scammers, trolls and stupid users hate me too. Especially scammers.

I'm trying to bring a new idea, so everyone is welcome if he is smart enough.

I know that my English is bad, but I never learn English. I'm sorry..
But I think It has no matter in current discussion context if You can understand me.

Xandry isn't active in russian section and he is newbie. Please, don't touch newbies, especially users that work to be a mod (FSB - agents?).

Very fun Pivo. I remeber this peoples, no one is good, especially SectorZero and Yaremi.

Take a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=42777 . I think that he is a best candidate today.

I don't offer to pick a new moderator. Even more, I try to point that it is possible to cleanup our section without full mod rights.

The thing is that:

a) They want to be moderators and openly about it said the people
b) The people chose them in the pre-voting

It is bad way. Too many trolls, politic agents and newbies in our section.

Now I'm trying to find LZ (our mod)

You tried to trolling me? I have no TV.
^^ And this guy want to be a moderator?!

Agreed with this list (about polit trolls) except Yaremi.

And +1 for penek (if he wants to be a moderator)

:D

Once day I explained that You make usual (like teens) mistakes, but You leave discussion thread without any explanation.
Now, Uran public long list without thinking, and You note about politic trolls too. But truly not all users in list are trolls. Many users actively fight against trolls (me too, sometimes) and true trolls often can't defend his position, they just trolling and public propaganda-oriented materials.
For example, Pivo is active in politic section but he is not troll. Trolls just trolling and can't explain details about position, Pivo - can.
You should to think..think more. Asatur, Yaremi and Uran make same mistakes in logic too, so no one of you is useful to be a mod.

The list has been updated. @fsb4000 is now on the list.

It is not true.

It is not true too.

asshole ? - your position is very smart..


So, It is very interesting. Inactive in Russian section users now activated here: -Greed- and xandry .

fixed :)

Go a few pages back and you will find the proofs. Update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10774092#msg10774092

I've been active in Russian section since the very beginning. Go and check yourself my stats/messages.

Is it proof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10773853#msg10773853 ?

Assume that in goal to unlock account and collect stats?

To inactive in Russian subforum users: please, don't be worry about Russian sections, just return to your usual work. Thank You.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10774092#msg10774092

You got it wrong. Re-read my previous message. Я и paньшe и пocтил в pyccкoм paздeлe, никyдa нe пpoпaдaл, мнe нpaвитcя этoт фopyм я и нe xoчy чтoбы мoдaми были пoгaныe кpeмлeблядки. Taк пoнятнee?

He want to but not sold. But you wrote: "he sold his account some time ago to russian propagandists". Your position isn't true.

I offer best solution: we can solve problem with spam without delegate full moderation right using `split-and-move` technique: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10779150#msg10779150 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10778583#msg10778583

What do you think about?

It has been proven that @Pivo had sold his accounts. Again, you can find it in russian section.

Good idea. By the way, I think we need several mods. Our section is pretty large. One man simply can't rule it all.

I offer to delegate that rights (split and move) to all old users with good reputation. In this case I hope that I can be free from that work and will can continue my work.

<sarcasm>As far I remember, you wrote that you were lying there.</sarcasm>

Sorry, but it seems extremely unlikely that somebody gives a shit about your emotional condition. Yes, it's a cruel world and unhappiness comes when it wants to, nothing can be done about that.

Well done, you've just insulted a bunch of active community members. What can I say, you have that right even though it's a violation of the forum rules.

However, there are several obvious questions:

• Am I right that you've written at least one line of code for bitcoin, litecoin or any other related project?
• Am I right that you've helped to translate a documentation or helped newbie users with some proper instructions?

What did you do except trolling and posting advertisements in your signature? Or, in simpler words, what's your contribution for the community and who are you to fucking lecture them?

There are some guys (Mr.Anonymous included) who did more than you would be ever able to do in the rest of your life. Despite of their relative silence, they have much more right to make such statements. Any confident and mentally consistent person would have to shut up on your place. Dumbo, you need to shut up and listen to what the smarter people are saying. Keep your ridiculous claims for yourself and don't waste your time. Taк пoнятнee? ;)

I read its minimum once a day. But i'm not interested in the subsections like "politics", "traders" or coders. And I do not hide this. As the most part of new information appears in English-speaking part of a forum, I don't think that is to that to be surprised.
Don't confuse trolling and sarcasm. It is very funny read comments about yours conspiracy theories.

So much hostility in here.

Personally I'm leaning towards xandry, though ultimately I'll leave it to theymos. There is a lot of ref spam, and he's been reporting it for a long time, regularly. There needs to be a moderator to deal with that section, lot of reports, lot of ref spam, and it can't continue being handled by non-Russian speaking global moderators.

I do like what some of the others have had to say, but I strongly suspect they wouldn't be strict enough on the referral spam (seriously if I could read Russian, or if Google translate didn't handle Russian so badly, half the threads there would be outright deleted). Either that, or they don't report enough. It's easy to talk the talk, but reports show you can walk the walk.

Troll and politic propagandists active in politics "subsection" but You even don't know about that.
Other subsections like coders, traders, news and others mostly is find. I see user messages about forum state some want to create new child boars 'Faucets', but no more. Therefor I think that some threads should be moved, some detached..that's all. Biggest problems with spam in 'politics' section, but ofc You don't about that, so You don't know who is a propagandist, who is a troll and so on...

And main problem - Russian society don't know who You are. You are not public and it is very bad tactic to silently working to get mod rights. Mod must be picked from public user, our active society.

PS: Centralization right for newbie is very bad idea. Very.
Satoshi begin global decentralization and I believe that we must support that idea.
So, again I recommend to implement new way using delegation `split+move`( + Spam child board with auto-clean in 30 days) right for all old users with good reputation. I think that decentralization mod right will be new options in the forums in nearest future.

That's why i talking about somoderators for some subsections. And why you think that i'm "silently working to get mod rights"? Because I use to destination button "report to moderator" or because has created a theme here that the section is not moderated?

Bureaucratism? - No, thanks. Some of users can effectively operate fully in Russian subsection.

I see that You goal is to take mod rights, but You are not public people in our society (guessing for Your weak position). And You are not interesting to support my offering to handle spam without picking full rights moderator. I'm offering (I'm sure, best) `split+move` technique because I know what users position about current state of Russian section (generally "is not bad, but can be better"; but 'politics' board is different for trolls and politic activists). many of processes in our society is very powerful and You can not operate that. I truly want to save our society that is why I waste my time in this thread.

Active users in Russian section don't know You. In last years we sometime raise question about moderation but LZ return back and make his job. In last weeks we again talk about moderation of Russian section but where are You ? You are not interest in processes of our society, so we are not interesting in You, sorry.

Nope, it's nothing but trivial logic. :)

That's not a good idea to mention this kind of activity in the positive context. In fact, it's an easiest way to ruin your reputation and even more, it's a main reason of hatred towards the "western" style of life. Because here in Russia such kind of activity as making the tax evasion report or hidden profits report is not considered normal.

There is a word "stukach" (i.e. "collaborator" or "informer") which is used for name calling of nazi collaborators and any other people who wrote the denunciations. You know, a lot of people still remember how their parents were tried and executed due to anonymous denunciations. And now you can see that some people in russian section are using this word to describe xandry and other candidates, just due to mention of their activity on making the reports.

In Russian it is called: Disservice (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fru.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B6%D1%8C%D1%8F_%D1%83%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0&edit-text=&act=url)   ;D

It may seems like off topic here. But I want to tell you something about Russians BadBear. I deal with them since I was a little boy and can tell you that hate and hostility are nothing special among them. They will argue and won't be able to choose a good leader. They think if you are a mod here you will be automatically earning  a lot of money, you will be a master and commander. That is the reason they fight so much. Most of them do not care about this forum, or spam, or helping people to understand bitcoin better. They just want to rule. Pick wisely BadBear, because moderator in russian subforum will be hated by everyone there...

Psycopaths are very useful in the critical situations (http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/in-1982-britain-simulated-surviving-an-allout-nuclear-war-one-solution-recruit-psychopaths/story-fnjwl2dr-1227110553712), they're a part of protection mechanism which is necessary for our survival.

So, some small and relatively constant percent of completely idiotic and psychopath people is a normal thing for any population of Homo Sapiens, and russians aren't special here. It's a shame that you have dealt with idiots, shit happens.

I'm sorry but it's a complete BS without even a slightest matching with the reality and I would rather believe that sky has a brown color. Well, it seems that I have no option but ask you some obvious questions... Are you writing from the pocket universe? Is it true that you're able to use the entangled particles for data transmission? o_O

I do not pursue such a goal, so again I ask: why do you think so? You've never answered a similar question.
You're kidding right? Please read this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794025.0) thread and and think twice, who of us was not active.
And again... Why do you think so? I said it was not interesting to me? I have to respond to your every utterance? If I did not say anything, then it means nothing. You build some imagination, and then I find myself in this blame.

May I know "how"?


Here, it is! Xandry is atleast willing to invest time for reporting unlike many others(maybe none) in your board. You want a "no-mod-board" but is not gonna happen. :)


Hmm... If insulting for being a mod doesn't hurt xandry, he is still best atm.

Edit: Meaning of stukach:


Like I said, you want a 'no-mod-board' to spam.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Is reporting spam, to benefit everyone in the board not different than reporting tax activity or other things that screw a person over thoughr?

Anyway, based on report history, I'd say Xandry is indeed a good candidate, however I don't know how active they are in the Russian section, nor if they want the job, etc.
Balthazar has banned more more than a few times from the BTC-E chat, but you said you didn't want the position anyway, so a semi vouch is there if you want it.


*edit* all of that said, you know the Russian board can to an extent shape how their local moderator moderates. Moderators are allowed to use their own judgement and discretion and can act on what the community wants, and leave what they don't want touched. With some exceptions of course, but essentially you could have a moderator that just moderates spam, and major issues and leaves whatever it is that the community there doesn't want touched.

I know good how special forces (agents) work in Internet. Same scenario to obtain mod rights. Do You hear about moderation stories in public forums and trackers and FSB-agents?

Here is voting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.0 We initiate a new voting because some of current candidates is inadequate.
Here is discussion too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=989882.0

And take a loot at voting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794025.160 Results: 32 thinks that Russian section is fine and no need in moderator vs 30.   52.4 % vs 47.6 %

Decentralization is better than centralization and yep, I don't see that You support my idea that bring that decentralization solution to cleanup spam. Yep, my guesswork based on my analysis and logic. But I have no other information to make complete analyzing.

And I see in threads that candidates must be "Hero Member" rank at least .

So, we initiate a new round. Now we are collecting candidates.

No! Just a snitch!  ;)

In fact it's different of course. But you won't be able to prove that you're making reports to benefit everyone rather than trying to achieve own goals. That's why this happening.

Unfortunately, I have many examples of how good reporter became an absolutely authoritarian moderator and committed multiple abuses of power. Last one was becool at the btc-e.com and that was my fault. I've checked a lot of his reports and recommended him as moderator... I'll never do such mistake again. I regretted it many times and supported the cancellation of his appointment a bit later. ::)

Yep, I'm a mod at btc-e since 2012.

It's unfortunately but I can't guarantee that I'll have enough time for full moderation because I'm already moderator of three resources. That's why I won't participate in these polls but I wouldn't mind to bring some order in the technical subsections in case if theymos will make such decision. Technical subsections only, without this "politics" trash can.

theymos has said earlier "no poll". It is easy to manipulate. BTW, who got the most vouches for becoming a mod from users who posted there?


You* can't do anything without achieving 'yourself'*. :)

* In general.

Yes, please, continue. Everyone really matter what happens in the subsection "Politics", where your application as many trolls. Even a few people in these topics indicated that it is a farce and the vote does not matter, because it does not recognize by admins.

2Xandy: mainly, only 'politics' section must be moderated, other subsections is fine (ofc, can be a bit better).

2Muhammed Zakir: take a look https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794025.0 :
Peoples don't think (53.4%) that our section need in a mod.

So, I think that my offering ('split'+'move' technique) is best solution. I'm sure that Satoshi will support my point in decentralized moderation.

Look https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.918799;all and tell me you want to change your mind.


Please read again:


Even I could have manipulated it by voting 'no' just for some satoshis.


:D In Meta, value is not for who raise the voice but for what he raise. However, I think Satoshi is an exception for this. ;)

I just wanted to say that most users do not care about what is happening in the "Politics". Just if you are going to discuss these things and spend a vote, then you need to do this so that most users are aware of this and have taken part. Currently it "just for fun".

Personally I think that the Politics subsection should be removed. We've lived without this subsection and there were no issues about that. There is no reason to think that we won't be able to do so again.

Maybe I'm wrong here but currently this subsection seems nothing but catalyst of the mutual hatred.

You are wrong. Politcs section should never be removed. There is a disaster in the section because of having no mod. I also want to remind that you create majority (I would even call it "a shitload") of useless posts there.

Moderator without our choice? What a trick!

Administrators, how about an opinion of Russian community?

Congrats xandry! Don't misuse the power and utilise it at it's maximum extend. Best of luck moderating the forum. :)


You(incl. all) couldn't suggest a person who knows the rule and how to judge posts.


They asked.

Bolded correct part for you. :)

@Muhammed Zakir

FYI, lot of people in Russian section are dissatisfied with the new appointment.

@Muhammed Zakir

The questions were of the administration. Are you the administrator?

Thank you for telling! I understand. There maybe some problem with the "rank" but try to understand, you need a good mod not a highly ranked person. Good persons can be there without posting and spammers/scammers may make higher posts than them. I believe you will adjust with the situation.


I am sorry. I ain't a mod, not even a staff. I was just trying to point you to correct part. :)

FYI: If you think xandry moderate the board in a bad way, report here. Good luck!

New moderator is promoting his referral links:

What are you talked about? The new moderator makes advertising of his own referral links but fighting with others? This is a very biased behavior.

Please check the date of the posts. :) He maybe was promoting referral link but I am sure he changed lately.

Correct part it is opinion of the Russian community. We almost agreed who should be a new moderator, but you do not care of our opinion and made the decision instead of us.

I agree partially but you did see the posts that was made here.


Who was it?


Admins(we) do care about your opinions. Admins made xandry as mod as his reports were accurate and you couldn't suggest a person who is worthy of to become a mod. You should know "a moderator should know the rules and how to judge it. Just becoming trusty isn't a fact for becoming a mod". :)

We will see what will happen. Some of these links have already deleted after "reported to moderator", but not all..

This link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869659.msg10297444#msg10297444 is still available.

I'm glad that admins made the right choice. The topic now can be locked. 8)

Cheers

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=928433.msg10194055#msg10194055

http://s11.image1.org/images/2015/03/16/1/04ad17d14cadfc6cf188f9f6335eba1a.jpg


He covers up the traces of its illegal activity. this man is not worthy to be a moderator.
All the people in the Russian part of this forum outraged and shocked by this appointment.
In the Russian community there are many people more deserving.

Please, forgive my bad English

Russian section has many information and many sub-forums inside. We need 3 or even 4 moderators for effective work.

1. Wi-Fu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=96407)

2. Pivo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=102276)

3. fsb4000 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=42514)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.msg10788595#msg10788595

Forget about it. ;D Two of three are on the blacklist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10784440#msg10784440). And Wi-Fu is connected with well-known Russian scammer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi) (Mavrocoin, MMM). These people must never be mods of the forum!

It's not true. I'm satisfied for instance.

You can shove your "blacklist" deep in your asshole. Thanks.  8)

Troll's opinion is "very important", especially in Russian section   ;D

Hey man, You don't know real story. I welcome everyone to mavrocoin thread to discussion, but trolls afraid. They just trolling me. No one can explain why he is trolling me. I welcome You too to this thread to discuss about : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954217.0

Thanks Muhammed. I already have experience in moderating forums and jabber-conferences, so be objective for me is not a problem.
Yes, as you can see, my goal was not to become a moderator, so I did not delete it. I knew that all my posts will be checked by spammers, but I do not care, I'm not hiding anything. It is strange that such a compromising appeared just now...
By the way, why you do not write here under your other accounts?  ;)

xandry became a moderator?
Okay, next time it will be newbie with no posts and unknown in subforum...

He was chosen as he accurately and actively reported spam in the Russian sections. Just because someone is somewhat new to the forum doesn't mean they are completely clueless to what's going on.

There was no consensus, just a bunch of bickering, name calling, and insistence that moderation isn't needed, and it's taken way too long. So we worked with what we got. It's done, complaining about it isn't going to change anything, and will likely only dilute any 'real' complaints if there are any.

You guys were having some sort of political election, which is not what we need. This is not an election for Ultimate Dictator of all bitcointalk.org Russians -- you just need a "janitor" who can clean up the spam. I don't know whether fsb4000, Pivo, etc. are good people or have good politics. But they report things only very rarely, so I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't be good moderators.

Please help xandry be a good moderator. If he makes a mistake, calmly try to work it out with him. If that fails, post about it here in Meta. xandry cannot see user IPs, he can only ban newbies, and I can undo anything he does.

@BadBear
@theymos

Russian community does not perceive him as a fair moderator and will be unlikely to help him as well. You can take my words like words of politician and moderator of another forum.

This assignment is not democratic and people worries.

That's not how this works. The people should (!) help out no matter who is picked.
Complaining about spam and then complaining about the solution is illogical. He has yet to really prove himself. Don't judge people too early.

Oh dear... You don't know nothing about these bloody Ruskis!  :D

You might require, if we chose it themselves.  ;)

It isn't about him. It's about you and the community. Helping him will benefit the community and everyone in it. Those who do, that's the kind of thing we look for in a moderator (another moderator isn't out of the question down the road). This forum is not a democracy, never has been, and is not run on votes. This isn't political office, like theymos said we are basically glorified janitors.

The main problem is the people in Russian section do not want to use the "Report to moderator" button and it makes a lot of shit there. So moderator should be very active and all the time to watch for situation. For this amount of information that is present in Russian section there must be more than one or even two persons. Just it is physically is impossible. That is what mr. Pivo was trying to say HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961364.msg10792040#msg10792040).

Take a look: http://web.archive.org/web/20150317084944/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0

Google-translated version: https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://web.archive.org/web/20150317084944/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0

Is it time to switch cryptocoiner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=104739) to `read-only` state? He is nazi, troll and idiot (truly, he is inadequate).

Only in politics =) It's intended be like this. ) But never in other forum.
And all my those old posts were bumped by other user (becool) who just want to get me banned. Check them.
And, Wi-Fu is a known scammer. Please, be aware of him.

Im always reporting if I see spam links. Everywhere. In all sectons.

I only illuminated thems from this person.
And it is not old.
It is Nazi and politics! And in few monts only or even one month!
He is politics troll in Ru part.

I am not scammer. Don't lie. How I am scammer if we begin our mission in protection from scam and at the end I protected miners from scam, shutdown pool and returned mavrocoin to him (should I repost txids from mavrocoin-pool thread?) - You don't know real story, you just trolling me. I welcome you to mavrocoin thread to discuss about seriously.

Illuminated them with your own stupidity? Ok, got it.

Scammer welcoming others into a scam thread. And asking admin to make him a moderator. LOL.

About lack of moderation in a russian section. It's true. It's completely unmoderated. And needs new moderator(s).

How that it is scam thread If I blocked scammers premine and my action (during ~4 months) stop scam action in our forum? Your logic it very wrong because you don't know nothing, just trolling. Stop to lie and trolling me.

Too few active adequate peoples in our section (most of them are busy). I have to public myself. Firstly I didn't want to do that (do you remember?).

We just need to force trolls like you into 'read-only' state for month or more. And more efficient way - split 'politics' section and move all existing threads to ru.politics.bitcointalk.org domain, for example.

There is a new moderator, xandry!

Keep your wars outside this thread. Thank you.

Sorry for that. Can anyone note about forum rules in relation to nazi ?

Yeah.. But we don't see him at work. Only for two days there were added 20-30 new meaningless (nazi) topics by Cryptocoiner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=104739).

http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0317/fb/70c0fb06a9ba6d0be82fd0eeb1f3eafb.png

Yeah, this section is so readable now. %)

We even have our own Putin there.

As for mr.Putin, our newbie moderator primarily has closed  "Question to president" topic and even deleted all posts inside. But as he said before, he is apolitical person, so this behavior is very strange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993512.0

It was a troll thread, not sure how it's strange to remove it. I'm not sure if you guys are joking or not.

Of course it was topic "just for fun", but there is another question, why new moderator has deleted such harmless comic topic and left 20 or 30 threads with explicit racism and nazi? We have information that this person share some of these ideas and he is not apolitical, as mentioned earlier.

Being a racist, nazi, or some other political affiliation you don't like is not against forum policy.

The question is not in the political views, only in its bias to others with another political affiliation. Moderator should be objective.

The new mod is quite qualified. There's absolutely nothing bad in the topics that were mentioned above. The russian propagandists just want to became mods to take over the forum. Don't let this happen!

Of course there is nothing bad except flood and useless crossposting for trolling. Everything else is the figment of your imagination.

Personally I don't care at trolls, but russian section looks like public toilet and new moderator is already refuses to clean up. Then why do we need a new moderator?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990069.msg10797788#msg10797788

http://s28.postimg.org/hk0tqz7ct/pic.gif

The section is being cleaned. I see some results. And don't forget it takes some time.
The new mod mentioned "violations according to some members not the forum rules" which he/she is not gonna remove. Easy?

You provided wrong translation.

Really? According to the rules, moderator should clean up trolling, but what he said? Eh?

<voice from the kitchen>I think our troll guy has made another empty claim there.</voice from the kitchen>

Unlike yours, his translation is quite accurate. While I am disappointed by your poor scholarship and your apparent dissent, I am not terribly surprised. I think we'll hear more about this particular translation today.

Oh I remember this narrative. It sounds to me like you're just regurgitating some maidan speeches. :D

http://cv01.twirpx.net/0691/0691420.jpg

What's the problem?

:) congratulation to xandry, I have seen you have become the new moderator for the Russian section. Good luck ;).

+1
Haters gonna hate. ;)

Good boy! Take a cookie  :)

I am glad that our community is able to self-organize.

Sort of. Thank you for being worried. I often read the forum without authentication.

I did a job for Genesis Mining. And I wrote about it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946699.0) as a participant, not as a moderator.
So I do not see anything wrong about that. I did not put advertising on the signature or
in a variety of topics. I did not set that topic sticky. It's just a topic about this service.

Because they (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5676.0) were just better at that moment, no? And I never was against our global rules.
Yes, Russian rules are outdated and need to be updated. That's why I set them non-sticky.

It's possible. As you may know, I never thought that our forum is just a job for me.
And I never took payment for it. It's something more than the usual type of work.
It's more like the task of national global importance. We're updating our society.
There are many ways where to go. Some persons can turn it the wrong way.

I wrote a message to theymos some time ago. No answer yet.

theymos, if you read this (but for some reason you did not read my PM) - please contact me.

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That's right. I talked with hero members last year and they may help. But I can't oblige them to do so
while Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation is working on their bill that makes cryptocurrencies
illegal in Russia. Russian moderators can get to court and prosecuted. I can't ask heroes to take risks.

I really hope no Russian mod have to get under scrutiny by Russian Security Services due to his job here. However, if risks of being investigated by police & security services are affecting mods recruitment maybe, a non-Russian national fluent with the Language and based outside Russian boundaries could be tasked with the job of moderating the Russian local board.

Just my 2 cents.

B дecяткe!