indeed. In poker platforms there is no house edge. They take their fee in different ways depending on the game format.

For cashgames they take a rake on every played hand
For sit&gos and tournaments there is an entry fee which mostly is 5-10% of the buy-in amount. So if you for example playa 5$ buy-in tournament the platform will probably charge 5.5$ which 5$ is meant for the prize pool and .5$ for the platform.

you are doing 2 of the most stupid things you can do.

· Firstly loan money to gamble. Ground rule: Never gamble more than you are capable to loose and never loan money to gamble.

· Secondly committing suicide for such an idiotic reason. You took the loans so you have to take the consequences.

Farkle is entirely different than dice. Farkle can be compared to the popular game yathzee. You have 6 dices to throw with and need to score as high as possible in 10 rounds. This game can be played against the house, p2p and in tournament format

Every table wether it is a tournament, a spin & go or a cash game. there is a chat available at every table

it will be a crypto casino. The dev team we are working with developed all games with fiat but they are rebuilding it to make it entire crypto based

exactly we do not launch our own coin. the world of 'new' coins is saturated. We will offer deposits in many different crypto currencies but the platform will operate in bits. And possibly we will add more gambling currencies in the future.

As any other p2p poker or gaming site. The platform takes a rake (fee) on games. Like for example if there is a 5.5$ poker tournament. 5$ goes to the prize pool and 0.5$ goes to the rake. This is like in any other p2p poker or skill game.

It always have been my 'wet dream' to bet on sports without any risk involved. During the past few years I tried out many things to decrease or even exclude the risks of loosing money. I have tried value betting, arbitrage betting, system betting and some other things. But at the end every strategy had its issues so it wasn't what I was searching for.

But now I found a way how I can bet without risking to loose even a single penny. I can put 100s of Dollar in weekly sports bets with the guarantee to get back all the money I wagered even when every bet goes wrong. So this way of betting will guarantee you 100% sure profits. cause your stake back is guaranteed and unlimited. So every dollar you win is pure profits. This is not a fast rich opportunity but you can make real profits.

The only disadvantage is that the platform that offers this opportunity does not accept crypto payments and they do require a kyc procedure.
But for every problem there are solutions. So I am thinking about creating a group and do this together. I have a fully verified account over there.


How in earth can you bet risk free?


Read this carefully cause this is the only way in the world to bet risk free!!!!

I am a syndicate captain on that platform and one of the privileges of being a captain is that you can earn a 10% rebate on all your personal created syndicate pools. This rebate is based on your total value of personal created syndicates in the previous week. As a captain you are guaranteed a 5% rebate from the first syndicate you create and this increases to 7.5% when placing more than 250€ and the full 10% if you place over 750€ in total value.
There only is 1 obligation for syncicate captains. this requirement is that as a captain you must at least fund your own syndicates with a minimum of 10%. This means if you create a 25€ syndicate, I as syndicate captain, need to fund that syndicate with a minimum of 2.5€.


And this is the key of my risk free betting method. I first didnt believe it but I had contact with their support and they confirmed it indeed worked this way and that the rebate amount is unlimited. Just check out the example and then you understand.


Example

I have 500€ in my captain account.

I go through the available syndicates and after selecting the pools I want to join I create 10 syndicate with each a value of 750€. In every syndicate I make the minimum 10% captain contribution. So in total I add 75€ to all the syndicates.

So after placing the syndicates my balance is 425€ (500 minus the 75 I added to the syndicates)

But guess what. Because I placed a total of 750€ I qualified for the 10% captain rebate. And guess what the value of the 10% rebate is exactly the same as what I have put in the syndicates myself. Total amount of the syndicates is 750€ so I qualified for the 10% rebate. 10% of 750€ means a rebate of 75€.

And thats the magic about this. I paid 75€ min contribution to my own syndicates. And because I qualified for the 10% rebate I receive back 75€. So guess what I own 10% of 750€ total value in betting tickets entirely risk free cause the rebate is equal to my personal contribution.




Lets say 1 of the tickets made a 500€ profit. Then my end balance will be 550€

500€ start - 75€ captain contribution -> 425€
500€ winnings/ 10%                        -> +50€              550€ end  balance
10% rebate                                    ->  +75€

Lets say all bets were lost. Then my end balance will exactly be the same as my start balance

500€ start - 75€ captain contribution -> 425€
0 winnings                                       -> + 0€               500 end balance
10% rebate.                                    -> +75€



So no matter what happens in the bets there are 2 possible outcomes. Or I end session in profit or I end session break even. What do you think about that? Is this a risk free betting method or not?
And I am not talking bullshit. You can contact their support yourself and they will confirm that captain are able to gamble 'for free'

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But like I said unfortunately this platform does not offer crypto payments and they do require a kyc verification which include id , proof of address and occasionally proof of your resources.


So there are 2 opportunities that you can benefit from. I dont know if I can advertise a site in the gambling discussion section. so that why I dont mention the site here.

·If you do not mind gambling with fiat and do not mind running through a kyc procedure then you can sign up and become a captain yourself.

·If you rather gamble with crypto and want to stay anonymous you can join our group and use your crypto. We can place all bets on your behalf through our verified account.




At this moment we also are looking for people that have a lot of knowledge of horse racing, NBA, NHL and NFL to become part of our group and start betting risk free.

I have been doing that for some time. It is a very good opportunity to make 'guaranteed' profits. But to this manually is almost impossible. But there are several good softwares that automatically track arb bets over 100+ different bookmakers.

But there are some catches.

· to be profitable with sports arbitrage you need at least 10-15 bookmaker accounts which are funded.
· Many bookmaker very often limit accounts if they see it belongs to arb bettor
· There are several struggles that can happen when placing your arb bet.
            · The odds can suddenly change after you placed your bet on bookmaker A
            · Bet gets voided on 1 of the 2 bookies
            · Bookie changes the max stake while placing the bet
            · .....


Thats why I changed from arbitrage betting to value betting. Value betting is not a 100% guaranteed winning method. Downswings can occur. But in the long run value betting will be profitable. the software that I am using personally says that with 30 value bets daily by following their bets and bet amounts you should be able to double your bankroll within 90 days.

the software is pretty nice as well. I will attach some screenshots. All value bets appear automatically, You can log your bets with 1 click so you have a total report at any times



couple things I like more about value betting.

· no cross betting between bookies necessary
· No need of having 10+ betting accounts. 1-3 are more than enough
· smaller bankroll needed to start with

We will definitely launch a beta test. But at this point the platform isnt ready for beta testing. But there will be regular updates and when we are 100% ready for beta testing it will be announced here

We are not going to predict a date. But we hope to launch in roughly 3 months. It can be faster but we dont want to put pressure on the launch.

We work with a very experienced team of gambling developers which designed for multiple other platforms as well. So there can be similarities but this are just first impressions. We are going to rebrand all pictures, colours, etc closer to date. Like said a couple games are already provably fair like blast and keno. Other games aren't but they are p2p without any involvement of the house. Our largest challenge will be to turn our poker product to provably fair but that will be done in the following months after launch.

Service will have to be top notch which we will make sure it is. We gonna try to make the withdrawals automatically processed within minutes, composing a decent support team is also a priority, and plenty of promotions will be available.
I dont see which similarities it has with stake design. But of course that everyones own opinion. According to games it is entirely different as stake as I have checked their site. They do not offer p2p games. We will also have games like crash (blast), keno,.... but we want to profile ourselves as a platform offering several different p2p games which do not include involvement of house edge. There will be p2p farkle, backgammon, checkers, Russian roulette, poker. And in most of them there will also be tournaments available.

Hey community,

My name is Steve,

I have made some post and topics about sport betting which I am heavily involved in. But beside that I am an active member in several crypto gambling platforms. From all feedback that I read in all forums and in those gambling chats I think there is quit some room for launching a crypto gaming/gambling platform that still is quit different like all the current crypto gambling platforms.

So I am going to show and explain you about the platform that we are working on. We hope to receive some feedback from this community, cause after all this is the largest crypto community in the world. So your feedback matters for us.


Name of the platform: secret until the launch
Date of launch: unknown


We want to offer single player - multiplayer and tournament games under 1 single roof. We have been on many gambling sites and we saw there is a huge demand of multiplayer games where people do not need to beat the house but just compete peer 2 peer. So thats why we decided to create a platform that offers a mix of everything.


Our future games


Crash

Every crypto gambler knows the crash games. But in our opinion it needs a small touch of animation. It is getting boring only seeing a graph going up until it says 'crash'. So here we have a sneak preview of our crash game. It works exactly the same as regular crashgames . the only difference is that there is a touch of animation attached to it.
Like all crash games a bunch of people can bet on the same game simultaneously but at the end you still are playing the house.




Farkle

Everyone knows farkle. Farkle is one of the most addictive games on social media apps. Millions of people play farkle online. We will offer this popular dice game to the crypto gambling community.
There will be 3 options:

· You can play the house as single player and chase a multiplier from 1.5 up to 29x to chase a score of 5000 or higher.
· You can play p2p duels. You can create your own duel and pick the buy-in. If another player accepts the buy-in the game begins.
· And will will organise daily farkle tournaments. This will be free rolls, regular tournaments and guaranteed tournaments.




Poker

Poker does not need to have much explanation. Everyone knows and loves playing poker. We will add a poker section to our platform with only p2p poker games.
Our poker section will have 4 sections:

· cash games which include FL PL and NL holder + PL omaha
· 6+ holdem
· tournaments which will include freeze outs, regular tournaments but we will offer a large amount of bounty and progressive bounty tournaments.
· And spin & go will be added to our platform. Spin &go is a fast sit & go format with 3 players, 500 chips stack and blinds increasing every 3 minutes. But the beauty of spins is that you can win up to 1000x your buy in just by defeating your 2 opponents. This is the perfect game for players that like to play poker with a twist of higher multipliers.




Keno

Keno is another popular game. We will offer a wide range of keno games. We will offer the regular 10/20 and 8/20 games. But there will also be side bets available like for example betting on the total sum of the numbers drawn, hi lo game on keno,......






This will be our 4 largest games and formats when we will launch but there will be more fun games available.

There will be games like:

Russian roulette, fantasy sports, rock-scissors-paper, backgammon- checkers, ogwil

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Some more important details that will be on the platform.

· At this moment we are preparing everything to acquire a curaçao gamin license.

· A couple games are already provably fair and after launch we keep working in the background to turn more games provably fair. Games that aren't provably fair yet will be supported by a certified Third party RNG system where we do not have influence on.

· Our betting currency will be 'bits' (0.000001BTC) So if you have 1,000,000 bits you have 1BTC.

· There probably will be more currencies available to deposit and withdraw but we will only support bits as betting currency. So every other crypto deposit will be converted to bits.

· There will be an affiliate system integrated in the platform. ( no further details available at this time)

· There will be a signature campaign, no deposit bonuses for beta testers, we will build a base of youtube and twitch players who can host giveaways.

· We are considering to add bankroll investment as well. But we rather do that as soon as we have build some kind of reputation.

· future plans: We already have plans to add casino - slots - live casino - sports betting - lotteries and pool betting as well within 6-12 months after launch of our platform.

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So this is a little about it. Hope you read everything through and leave us an honest opinion. Cause like I stated in the beginning. The feedback of the largest crypto community in the world does count.
 

Hey guys,

I know we are on a crypto forum but I want to share this wonderful opportunity with you guys. If you have a lot of friends and are familiar with sports betting than you can monetize this opportunity.




· weekly free play

When you bet 5$ weekly you are rewarded a free play the following week. Depending on your played amount your freeplay will be valid for larger jackpots

· Refer a friend

Receive a free play and up to 10$ for every friend that signs up with your RAF code

· Saturday free play

Every customer receives a weekly free play in the Saturday 7 pool horse racings

· Captain rebate

Are you a good punter and want an extra way to monetize your skills. Colossus gives a weekly captain rebate up to 10% of the entire value of your created syndicate pools (only filled pools count)


This are some great opportunities to monetize your sport betting skills.

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I know we are on a crypto forum. This platform does not offer crypto and it does require a kyc procedure. I am a crypto believer and gambler myself. But this doesn't let me to join their platform. Where else in the world can you join in jackpots where you can turn 2€ into 1,000,000€

In my opinion it also has advantages.

· This platform is entirely regulated with UK gambling regulations
· This platform has a massive good reputation and has partnerships with some of the largest bookies in the world like Betfair.com
· Colossus has an entire insurance funds and is backed entirely for their offered jackpots.
· If you do not breach the terms and pass kyc they will never limit or freeze your account when you hit large win or even the 1,000,000€ jackpot.


So why don't you give it a shot.

Just go to https://www.colossusbets.com and sign up. Use RAFHODLER code during your signup and you will be rewarded with a free play.
After that you can join or create syndicate pools and start to monetize your sport betting skills

There were no people interested in joining so I just played it on my own

At this moment I am 5/5 and still in the running for the 800,000€ jackpot!!!!

lol this idiots 'free fixed match' ended in a scoreless draw. Very nice result for a super hidden underground syndicate. Good syndicate if you you bet wrong on a fixed match.... idiot

Hey guys,

I have made several posts regarding this and I already did 1 giveaway in the games and rounds. I am a huge fan of pool betting and always fun to have a gamble with a group to increase chances of hitting the jackpot.

I was wondering if there are people interested in joining this pool bet. It can be a lot of fun.

I know that I am 'only' a junior member. So I do not care if people rather want a well reputable forum member to act as escrow service. I can easily cover 500-750€ while coins are held in escrow.


Pool betting is some kind of lottery like game. There is a predetermined guaranteed prize pool. There is a list of 15 predetermined games. 15 correct picks gives you the jackpot (shared when there are multiple winning tickets). And there are consolidation prizes for 11 up to 14 correct picks.
And in between there are cash out offers. So there is always an opportunity to secure some profits while the bet is running.

Tonights jackpot details


Tonights jackpot for 2€ per line has a 800,000€ guaranteed jackpot and consolation prizes for 11 up to 14 correct picks.
Bear in mind in case of multiple winning tickets jackpots and consolation prizes are split amongst winning tickets. So the prizes you see in the pictures are in case there only is 1 winner!!!




Games included in jackpot

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How to join?

Minimum amount to join is 2€/ maximum amount is your choice. Payments need to be received latest 1 hour up front the start of the first game.

STEP 1 Just respond in this topic

STEP 2 I will message you with details (I can accept BTC, ETH and LTC)

STEP 3 As soon as payment confirmed you are entered in the pool

STEP 4 As soon as the ticket is placed I will post the percentages participants own in the ticket.


Track results


·As soon as all payments collected I will place the ticket about 30 minutes before the start of the first game and post the ticket here in the thread.

·During the games I will post regular updates regarding to possible cash out options to lock some profits during the bet.


Payouts

If we are lucky enough to win some money with our ticket I will message everyone to ask them for their payment address and preferred currency.
If a large jackpot is hit, I will need to have some time to process the payments cause Betfair processes payout in €. So I need to withdraw and convert to crypto before I can process payouts.

Note
I will do a special effort and add 100€ myself to the pool ticket

good luck to all of us.

Super Heinz or Goliaths are not made for lowish odds, you should play high(er) odds with those systems. Just one losing selection makes you barely go breakeven, two losing selections put you already in the red. System bets are fun and can bring you huge money with low stakes, but building a bankroll with them is pretty ambitious - especially when you are using the wrong bets/odds with them.

Anyway, good luck and don't forget to post some losing bets inbetween as well, so people don't get a wrong impression here
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yeah those ones where just as an example that you can still make profits if selections are wrong. We know that most money can be won and ticket be profitable if odds are higher. Lower odds indeed get less opportunity to get break even when 1 our more selections are wrong. We personally also love system bets most with odds all between 1.7 up to 2.2/2.5. they can give most value.

but will definitely show loosing bets as well. the above were just meant as an example. You can never win 100% of your bets.

About not knowing value and importance of odds versus probability. I am long enough in sport betting to know that importance. I use multiple value betting softwares that track most valuable picks compared to probability. I am for example using rebelbetting software on a daily basis to track value bets on my registered bookies.
So its not up to you to judge me just on a post.


About your quote about one of my replies. thats only my opinion. I personally do not like playing unders in German and dutch leagues. But thats  a personal opinion. I had most of my under successes in for example French league 1 and 2 and Spanish second division. But not playing them that much or it must be in one of the pool bets

Small teaser. This was result of a yesterday small syndicate we joined. Our team contributed only 2€ and we cashed 22€ in that syndicate which is 11x our stake.

A little one to warm up a little.

Some explanation.

This pool bet is a pick 5 1X2.
The initial prize pool for this pool bet is 5,000€ if you play 2€ per line but I decided to play 0.2€ (0.1 unit) for this one.

I strategically picked 4 first games 3 way. so no matter what the first 4 games are correct no matter what happens in the game. This is a little gamble and hoping there are a couple weird results which will decrease the amount of units that are in the running to win a share of the jackpot.
Also very interesting in this pool bets are. During half time and after the end of the game there also is a cash out option. So while the ticket is running you can already lock some profits.

Recently we had a 17,000€ winning ticket. We played for 500€. during the games we locked already 1,000€ and couple games later another 4,000€. then we decided to let the rest run until the end of the ticket and luckily we grabbed another 12,000€. So pool betting also is a little bit of calculation and keeping a close eye on the amounts of units in play after every leg and having an upfront look on how those units are divided over the next games. In this way you can calculate wether it is worthwhile to take a CashOut or not

Hey guys,

I am part of SmashTheBookie, a small group of friends pooling money together in sport bets. We all screwed up in the past by playing individually and now we have teamed up for over 2 years and bet on sports as a small syndicate (team) ever since.

We also have a smashthebookie thread in gambling discussion and we have a giveaway thread in the games and round section also.
This thread will only be a reference to show how we bet and results we make. Of course I will not guarantee any profits but by playing system bets and pool bets you can decrease the variance cause you do not loose entirely when 1 of your picks is wrong.

So this thread will be some kind of journal to keep track of this account progress.


Account details

·Starting bankroll is 600€
·Betting platform is Betfair.com
·Betting types pool betting and system betting


What is pool betting?

Pool betting is some kind of lottery kind sport betting. A pool bet gives you predetermined picks to choose from. You have to pick 1x2, under/over, both teams to score, correct score,... depending on the pool that is offered by the platform.
Every pool has a guaranteed prize pool just like in lotteries. And payouts are a little similar as well. Jackpot is shared amongst all the winners and just like in lotteries, the less winners the more you can win.

The reason why we play pool bets is because you can win massive jackpots for smaller amounts. For as less as 2€ you can participate in jackpots up to 1,000,000€ in the weekly pick 6.

In the picture you see a couple pool bets we participated I the previous months.




What are system bets?

System bets are a way of betting on multiple different games and still have the opportunity to make profit or get break even, even when 1 or 2 games are wrong.
The most common system bet we play are Super Heinz or Goliath bets.

A Goliath bet consists out of 8 different games. By choosing the goliath system the system creates a ticket with every possible double up to 8-fold bet. So if you put up a goliath bet you will actually have 247 different bets. And from the moment 2 games are correct you are already making returns. Even in some cases you will get break even, even when 3 picks are wrong.

Reason why we play system bets is to decrease the variance. Everyone knows that playing parlays often results in a 1 bet loss. When you get 1 leg wrong in a parlay the entire ticket is lost. But a system bet is also some kind of parlay but this one keeps making money even when 1-2-3 selections are wrong.
Check below for examples. You see 1 or 2 selections were wrong in this system bets. In a normal parlay you would have lost the entire ticket but as you see because of using system bets we still were able to make profits. Profits made with 1 or 2 wrong selections aren't that big but at least a profit was made and not the entire ticket got lost. So by doing system bets you can keep a better control on your bankroll and decrease variance.

Examples of system bets that were profitable even with 1 or 2 selections wrong.




So lets give this a try. As told above the starting bankroll is 600€ and lets see where it will bring us.

If someone is interested in joining our group after seeing some results just go to our smashthebookie thread or our thread in games and rounds. We always are willing to welcome new members to our 'syndicate'.