Want a screenshot? I wouldn't fuck with you dude. I'm just saying there are more secure ways. Single point of failure (especially hardware) is the greatest threat. it's easy enough to make the data inaccessible to unauthorized parties considering it's a single file. The gmail /gspace was just a suggestion. There are other remote data storage options . Shit renaming it to CSPAN.House.Of.Representitives.Debate.wmv would be enough to keep people from accessing it  No one wants to watch that. |
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From Frederic Bastiat To the perpetrator.. may he suffer what he has sown.. Man can live and satisfy his wants only by ceaseless labor; by the ceaseless application of his faculties to natural resources. This process is the origin of property.
But it is also true that a man may live and satisfy his wants by seizing and consuming the products of the labor of others. This process is the origin of plunder.
Now since man is naturally inclined to avoid pain -- and since labor is pain in itself -- it follows that men will resort to plunder whenever plunder is easier than work. History shows this quite clearly. And under these conditions, neither religion nor morality can stop it.
When, then, does plunder stop? It stops when it becomes more painful and more dangerous than labor..... To the apologists who attempt to justify devious and immoral acts. Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter -- by peaceful or revolutionary means -- into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it. |
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Yes it works. I regret to tell you I voted no on the basis of lack of redundancy aka single point of failure. It would be just as effective to place the data in an encrypted rar with a very long password with a recovery record and storing it on multiple Gmail accounts (again strong password ) using Gspace. What if there is a flood or fire at your house? There goes the HDD and the key in one fell swoop.
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And defamation/libel is only defamation/libel if it is untrue.
wrong. libel has nothing to do with truth. This is covered in other threads. Libel is about malicious intent to bring shame and disrepute to the target. At least one SA members have already admitted they where doing this out of revenge. |
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Mr. and Mrs. 1 and 11 posts , you have no idea what your talking about. The law always works around new inventions and always has.
There is a legal maxim. For every right , there is a remedy. Bitcoin was released under the MIT License. So there is a right of use. A court of equity will fashion a remedy suited for the controversy.
AS far as enforcing said title. I could , if phantomcircuit would sell me his claim. That's called an assignment of a chose in action. He called also do what is called a election of remedies. He can waive the tort and sue in assumpsit for the received value of the stolen items.
Seriously you guys haven't a clue in the world. You are talking out your ass.
It really doesn't matter what legal gibberish you can spout or what your briefs say, any judge is simply going to look at it, not understand any of it, and tell you to get out of his court room before he fines you for contempt. You may think you're a legal expert but this is how that sort of esoteric technology is handled in a court that deals in fiat money and physical property. Your a frickin joke. Fined for contempt ? Oooohhh ... I'm scared now! Your desperate for any rationale basis . You won't find one. Bitcoins are not as esoteric as you think and even if they were courts take expert testimony all the time. Also courts deal in all sorts of subject matter beyond physical property like marriage status, custody and control, fitness of parents, fiduciary duties etc.... all of tose things are abstract ideas. You are embarrasing yourself at this point. I thought you guys got a good education in the UK. |
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Mr. and Mrs. 1 and 11 posts , you have no idea what your talking about. The law always works around new inventions and always has.
There is a legal maxim. For every right , there is a remedy. Bitcoin was released under the MIT License. So there is a right of use. A court of equity will fashion a remedy suited for the controversy.
AS far as enforcing said title. I could , if phantomcircuit would sell me his claim. That's called an assignment of a chose in action. He called also do what is called a election of remedies. He can waive the tort and sue in assumpsit for the received value of the stolen items.
Seriously you guys haven't a clue in the world. You are talking out your ass.
This is hilarous. You are hilarious. At best you might be able to file a civil suit against him in small claims court. How much are flights from the UK these days? ~600BTC? No, he's not going to jail. There was no "theft." Failure to return data that was IM'd to you is not theft. Failure to return something sent to you unsolicited is not a scam. But please, reach harder. Says who ? you? I would pile on some court cases , from the UK even, but I doubt your reading comprehension is capable of absorbing a court holding. Suffice to say UK is a common law country. Unfortunately, you don't know that crimes used to be prosecuted by regular people in the name of the public in addition to their own personal civil suit. The only thing you have to prove is that the act is an injury to the public interest. Not hard considering the public currency was used as an instrument of the theft. The difference between a civil action and a crime is nearly non-existant. The difference is whose interest is being protected. There is much overlap especially when the victim is a member of the public. I bet you don't even know that individual people can prosecute their own crimes without using some gov't agent. Unjust Enrichment. Look it up. The only thing that is going to determine the outcome is how much phantomcircuit persues justice. Another thing , how do you know the guy is in the UK ? Are you a co-conspirator? Chew on this. Lords Mansfield is British. Another, and very fertile source of such obligations, is found in the right to recover money paid in error. And since payment, as we have seen, includes the delivery of any specific thing whether money or not, the right of action for a repetition has the same broad scope. You may remember that in the case of Moses vs. Marferlan, 2 Burrows, 1005, Lord Mansfield held that if the defendant be under an obligation from the ties of natural justice to refund, the law implies such an obligation founded on the equity of the plaintiff's case, "as it were upon a contract, quasi ex contractu, as the Roman law expressed it."
As a general rule, in order to have a recovery, the thing given must not have been due, either by a perfect or a natural obligation, and the belief in the existence of a debt must have resulted from a mistake, and, as a general rule, from a mistake of fact. |
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Mr. and Mrs. 1 and 11 posts , you have no idea what your talking about. The law always works around new inventions and always has.
There is a legal maxim. For every right , there is a remedy. Bitcoin was released under the MIT License. So there is a right of use. A court of equity will fashion a remedy suited for the controversy.
AS far as enforcing said title. I could , if phantomcircuit would sell me his claim. That's called an assignment of a chose in action. He called also do what is called a election of remedies. He can waive the tort and sue in assumpsit for the received value of the stolen items.
Seriously you guys haven't a clue in the world. You are talking out your ass.
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Real fast. Bitcoins are network access and certain network authentication services. The legal term is an incorporeal hereditament. Yes they can be stolen. Yes there is title to them. Possession alone passes no title even for negotiable instruments, which happen to construe possession most strongly.
There is no legal or moral excuse for this behavior. At the very least there is UNJUST ENRICHMENT which is a tort.
Anyone claiming otherwise is a fool and an idiot. You are so dependent on the nanny state to define your rights you forget them some rights are strictly sui generis.
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I'd like some stickers but I want to pay in BTC. That's not available on you site. Is there any way to accommodate me?
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All the descriptions of HFT on here are wrong. The are manipulating the bid/ask spread and doing exchange arbitrage, basically shaving a .001% off each side. It takes lots of $$$ to do this but these investment banks are highly leveraged and have the capital.
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What's the status of the motion, i can't see it.
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All I can say are all the people in the thread that think he has no obligation to return the property are dead wrong. i've seen many people are the mistaken belief that unless the law is written down and specific you can operate outside of it. That is a mistake. They are confusing malem in se and malem prohibitum.
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What... isn't this the season of giving? Or am I early?
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The only thing missing from Bitcoin is a mature marketplace. It's getting there though.
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Well , I didn't get ripped off ... yet. So I don't know exactly what to give you... My payment status is completed. Stefanie used Paypal Mobile app. I'm not exactly sure how that works. The account Jung Whitley is unverified but I could have swore it was verified when he/she first did the transaction. That was on August 25,2011
For the record, Paypal is a bunch of sneaky fucks and I don't put it past them to change data ex post facto. Someone hacked my girlfriends account and ordered something. The CC charged back the money and Paypal still tried to get paid for it despite the fact that whoever hacked her account never got what they illicitly purchased. It was scammer versus scammer and Paypal still tried to get paid. They where basically trying to take $1600 for themselves!
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Hopefully the SEC will finally ban these cheaters. How bout so true price discovery? http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Legal/News/2011/09_-_September/Securities_regulators_seek_high-frequency_secret_sauce/WASHINGTON/NEW YORK, Sept 1 (Reuters) - Securities regulators have taken the unprecedented step of asking high-frequency trading firms to hand over the details of their trading strategies, and in some cases, their secret computer codes.
The requests for proprietary code and algorithm parameters by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA), a Wall Street brokerage regulator, are part of investigations into suspicious market activity, said Tom Gira, executive vice president of FINRA's market regulation unit.
"It's not a fishing expedition or educational exercise. It's because there's something that's troubling us in the marketplace," he said in an interview. |
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