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461  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: further improved phatk OpenCL Kernel (> 3% increase) for Phoenix - 2011-07-17 on: July 23, 2011, 11:49:00 PM
69xx version would be wonderful ;-P

To all 69XX card owners, that want 1 ALU OP less, down to 1697 Smiley. Just edit the kernel.cl file and replace Line 385 (DL the latest 2011-07-17 version):

Vals[7] += Vals[3] + P4(124) + P3(124) + P2(124) + P1(124) + s1(124) + ch(124);

with

Vals[7] = Vals[7] + Vals[3] + P4(124) + P3(124) + P2(124) + P1(124) + s1(124) + ch(124);

Please report if it works Smiley. Remember, this WILL be slower for 58XX owners, so don't try this, if you are on 58XX cards or even (s)lower!

Dia

Will it be slower on a 6850?
462  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: List of Legal and Illegal Nations. on: July 23, 2011, 03:03:16 AM
It is illegal in the US to use foreign currency because it is illegal to use any money that is not denominated in US Dollars.

I am very interested in reviewing your evidence of this claim. Post here please.

You will be waiting forever. No one in the US has to use US currency at all.

463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your Economic Recovery Program on: July 23, 2011, 02:56:25 AM
Someone has confused saying automation has caused the current economic situation with saying technology displacing workers is bad. It's not bad per se. However it has been used in a way that the end result is bad.

Stop trying to read between the lines.

464  Economy / Economics / Re: There is no backing for Bitcoin, and there needn't be. on: July 23, 2011, 01:18:47 AM
Yea! The 1000th Bitcoin has no backing thread!

For the 1001th time. Yes it does.

"Backing" is a valuable consideration that would support a simple contract. Third party authentication is a valuable consideration, ask any notary public.
465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your Economic Recovery Program on: July 23, 2011, 01:10:58 AM
Since we are still in a Global Economic World Wide Depression I'm wondering what the general consensus is out there regarding:

1) What caused it (primarily)
2) What is your plan to get out of it (includes any laws or programs you would add or repeal)


I'll post my program after I put some finishing touches on it.

1. Automation.

Automation?

Don't tell me you're one of those "Robots will doom the workforce!!!1one!" people are you?

It's more than robots.
Barcode scanners for example
 Less than 50 years ago you could raise a family as a clerk. Now they have you doing it yourself.
Automated cars are a decade away. Do you have any idea how many people drive for work?
Just wait . You'll see.
466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your Economic Recovery Program on: July 23, 2011, 12:46:24 AM
Since we are still in a Global Economic World Wide Depression I'm wondering what the general consensus is out there regarding:

1) What caused it (primarily)
2) What is your plan to get out of it (includes any laws or programs you would add or repeal)


I'll post my program after I put some finishing touches on it.

1. Automation.

2. What Depression?
467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your child brings this letter home from school... on: July 23, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
If your son called him a liar that's wrong of him. A mistaken belief isn't a lie.
468  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: douchebag newegg bumped the price of 5830 to $129.99 on: July 22, 2011, 04:09:19 AM
They are eXtreme edition cards after all. They have a huge copper heatpipe + solid block.
469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and inherent value on: July 21, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
Bitcoins most definitely are not bonds. The idea is absurd.

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A bond is merely an obligation under seal. ...
Sure, that's a book definition, but here  in the bitcoin forum, when we use a word,  it means just what we choose it to mean — neither more nor less.

Well i think a glossary needs to be included in the post then ....
470  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and inherent value on: July 21, 2011, 06:20:33 PM
Bitcoins most definitely are not bonds. The idea is absurd.

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A bond is merely an obligation under seal. Commonwealth v. Smith, 92 Mass (10 Allen) 448, 455, 87 Am. Dec. 672.
A "bond" may be briefly defined to be a sealed obligation to pay money. 1t may be either single and absolute, or upon condition and contingency. However complicated may be the condition or contingency, and however alien from pecuniary considerations may seem the inducements to its execution or the circumstances surrounding the parties, a bond will always be found to resolve itself into an obligation to pay money sooner or later— either absolutely or upon some condition or on the happening of some future event Rawson v. Taylor (Neb.) 95 N. W. 1033, 1036 (citing Murfree, Off. Bonds).
A bond, as defined by Blackstone, is a deed whereby the obligor obligates htmself, his heirs, executors, or administrators, to pay a certain sum of money on a day appointed. Williams v. State, 6 South. 831, 832, 25 Fla. 734, 6 L. R. A. 821; Rondot v. Rogers Tp. (U. S.) 99 Fed. 202, 209, 39 C. C. A . 462.
"A bond is what binds. Therefore any instrument in writing that legally binds a party to do a certain thing may be called a bond." Courand v. Vollmer, 31 Tex. 397, 401.
Bonds are obligations payable at a definite time, running through a series of years. They are payable when the time of their maturity arrives, independent of any presentation. Shelley v. St Charles County Court (U. S.) 21 Fed. 699, 701.
The term "bond" la sometimes used as a generic term—as a written instrument by which a person has become bound or committed legally. Usually the word is taken to mean a secondary or accessory securing a primary obligation in favor of some third person. Thus, an instrument declaring, "1 agree to stand security for L. to the amount of his contract," is not technically a bond. State T. Leo, 32 South. 447, 452, 108 La. 496.
The word "bond" has a definite legal signification. 1t is a clause, with a sum affixed as a penalty, binding the party to pay the same, conditioned, however, that payment of the penalty may be avoided by the performance by one or more of the parties of certain acts. United States v. Rundle (U. S.) 100 Fed. 400, 403, 40 C. C. A. 450 (citing 1n re Fitch [N. Y.] 3 Redf. Sur. 457).
A bond by specialty to pay a certain sum of money is a deed or instrument under seal, by which the maker or obligor binds himself to pay a designated sum of money to another, usually with a clause to the effect that, on the performance of a certain condition, the obligation shall be void. "A bond is said to be prima facie a penal obligation, and the sum mentioned therein is not construed as liquidated damages unless other language used in the instrument, or accompanying circumstances, shows that such was the intention of the contracting party; but, if the sum named is to be taken as penalty only, on a breach of the obligation the obligee is en
titled to recover only such actual damages as he may suffer from the breach of the condition." Turck v. Marshall Silver Min. Co., 5 Pac. 838, 839, 8 Colo. 113.
A bond is a deed or obligatory instrument in writing whereby one doth bind himself to another to pay a sum of money or do some other act 1t contains an obligation with a penalty and a condition, which expressly mentions what money is to be paid or other thing performed, and the limited time for the performance thereof, for which the obligation is peremptorily binding. The ceremony, as necessary to a bond or obligation, consists of writing on paper or parchment, sealing, and delivering. Boyd v. Boyd (S. C.) 2 Nott 4 McC. 125, 126.
The word "bond" necessarily imports that there is a written instrument Pierson v. Townseud (N. Y.) 2 Hill, 550, 551.
471  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and inherent value on: July 21, 2011, 01:34:29 PM
Every major currency has third party verification done constantly.

For example?
If you buy something at a store and the cashier counterfeit tests the bill and gives you a receipt that would be one verification of the instrument and transaction.
Both don't happen. Neither happen till you transfer the note. Bitcoin network does this while you passively hold them, before they are spent and after they are spent.
It's not even  a close comparison.


I can't even believe you're trying to muddle people's minds that the usage of the Bitcoin network has no value. Believe me, the courts will find it has value.




472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and inherent value on: July 21, 2011, 04:43:44 AM
The inherent value in Bitcoin is the continuous security provided to users. The blockchain and all transactions are being continuously verified and authenticated. What other money is there that is having a multitude 3rd parties verify it's legitimate.

Anyone that thinks bitcoin is not backed by a valuable consideration is plain wrong.
Any service is a valuable consideration.
473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Illegal content in the blockchain on: July 21, 2011, 04:38:43 AM
Oh ya ignorance of a foreign law is an excuse as well.
474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Illegal content in the blockchain on: July 21, 2011, 04:37:48 AM
Some of the posters on here are dolts. Go look up mens rea then come back and talk about illegal content.
475  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Motherboards. on: July 21, 2011, 04:22:45 AM
If it's strictly for mining you don't need full 16x PCI-E. 1x will do.
476  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Smallest wallet size? on: July 19, 2011, 01:27:45 AM
Is there anyway to shrink a wallet (unused/empty of course) to a size that would fit in a QR code?
477  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 2 Radeon 5870 video cards on: July 19, 2011, 12:01:05 AM
Those are Extreme Edition Sapphires. You will easily get 320 MH/card and not go over 85C. I usually hover around 75C with 80 degree indoor temperature.
478  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: bitHopper: Python Pool Hopper Proxy on: July 18, 2011, 06:12:42 AM
Can you add solo mining to the mix? Might get lucky ya know?
479  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First commercial ASIC miner specifications and pre-launch on: July 18, 2011, 03:48:50 AM
Basically what we're saying is, "We're willing to be scammed. But you need to work a little harder at it."   Roll Eyes

Oooh... your right my bad... either way according to the link he has enough units to solve a block in a reasonable amount of time.
480  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First commercial ASIC miner specifications and pre-launch on: July 18, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
I have an idea , why don't you solve a block with your hardware.

 Should take about 20 minutes with your 5 GH. You need to tell us the bitcoin address first. Then solve a block in a reasonable time  consistent with 5 GH and post the transaction hash of the solve so we can verify the address is the one you said it is.

That's real. simple. Solve a damn block or STFU.
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