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101  Economy / Economics / Re: Coinsortium: Experiences on: September 15, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
Stop contradicting yourself.

(Ardeva) hopefully it will become mainstream for security publishers.
And:
(Ardeva) which as of today is the strongest way to identify someone in the Bitcoin Community.

Also:

All company owners are subjected to a strong verification via the Ardeva service
And:
Of course investors do not need to identify this way, a simple account is sufficient.


I did not contradict myself, you people read everything with a sword on hand  Smiley  ...and forget to put glasses on.

Ardeva is as of today the strongest way to identify someone in the Bitcoin Community since there is no other service that does such work. However it is a new company with a user base that numbers in the hundreds. hopefully it will become mainstream not only for Coinsortium but for any site where people offer securities or services to the general public.

Also:

All company owners are subjected to strong verification. A company owner is someone who makes a listing on Coinsortium for his/her company, be it stocks or bonds; people NEED TO KNOW who is the recipient of their money.
On the other hand investors do not need to identify themselves and can keep their anonimity. They cannot do any harm.

N.B: There is a discussion going on about a required KYC for US investors but so far our policies are unchanged
102  Economy / Economics / Re: Coinsortium: Experiences on: September 15, 2014, 08:13:12 PM
Well this made me lol. WTF is Ardeva and who besides you agrees that it is even a meager way to 'identify'(whatever that means) someone in the 'Bitcoin Community'?

Create an account, it is free, and you will see how a 'meager way of identify'(whatever that means) someone it is.

Ardeva is a due-diligence platform that collects user data and generate a credit score. Check it here. It is quite new so its user base numbers in the hundreds but it is growing and as there are no competitors hopefully it will become mainstream for security publishers.

Of course investors do not need to identify this way, a simple account is sufficient.
103  Economy / Economics / Re: Coinsortium: Experiences on: September 15, 2014, 07:45:53 PM
So it's one of those ones that doesn't set out to be a scam, it will just end up there.

As it has been stated we have no reason to end up there... and exactly scam what? People deposit and buy shares, bitcoins exchange hands and we take a commission.

That's it.
104  Economy / Securities / Re: I need help with our IPO on: September 15, 2014, 07:33:41 PM
[Cryptostocks also offers verification as well. Finally, I personally would not trust any company that vouched for QBOND, that just seems to be an out and out scam.

Yes they do, but we deemed their verification process too weak and exploitable, so we partnered with Ardeva.

Do you have any evidence of QBOND being a scam? If so I can submit them to the administrator for review
105  Economy / Securities / Re: I need help with our IPO on: September 15, 2014, 07:01:29 PM
So you can't make any promises except for the one that you're sure that there are no scams listed on Coinsorium? And there are plenty of people here willing to give up their personal details to scam BTC, look at Mr. Klye-

Please don't mix my words to get a meaning I did not imply.  Huh
Coinsortium uses Ardeva to do the BEST due diligence possible, try it yourself if you want... it is free.

How can I possibly know that a person is planning a scam? We do not host KNOWN scammers, aside from that... we can't do anything more than a strong verification.

That being said I can guarantee that SOME of the securities listed aren't scams because I personally know the owners. The rest are listed by people I had no business with so I can't voice for them... this doesn't mean that they are scams!

I do not know Mr. Klye, but "giving out personal details" is QUITE different from getting an Ardeva verification. And if they are willing to scam anyway well, too bad for them, they will be sued and will pay the price of their actions like the real world.
106  Economy / Securities / Re: I need help with our IPO on: September 15, 2014, 03:35:34 PM
There are legitimate ones, given there are very few. Most of the ones that are scams / failures have ridiculous valuations / no security checks done on them. Thats why cryptostocks / coinsortium are absolutely terrible, and havelock is maybe a notch above them (still awful).

Please do not listen to this user, he has no clue about what he is talking about and is just spewing lies at random.

1) garbage exchange that accepts everyone
All security owners with one (or more) securities listed on Coinsortium must go through strong Ardeva verification which is, as of today, state of the art due diligence in the Bitcoin world.

2) Some junky "identity verification" system. You know its junky because the owner of QBOND on Coinsortium has a good rating... And Ardeva itself is listed. Just looks like a money grab way to also instill a false sense of trust IMO
Ardeva is free and it is the best verification service around. You have no clue about what are you talking about sir.

I'm guessing people with any real BTC to invest have seen that 99.9-100% of all BTC-denominated securities are some combination of scam and/or failure. Frankly, with the state of BTC securities, if you are a legitimate business, you may want to consider more traditional forms of funding. If your business plan is as solid as you claim, you can likely get funding from VCs, on kickstarter, etc.

Those are good ways for sure but we (yes I work for Coinsortium) do not host scammers. Unless they want to scam giving you free access to their personal and financial data of course.... which is quite weird.

About failure well, businesses win and businesses fail, I can't make any promises but there are VERY interesting securities on Coinsortium.
If I may suggest I advise you all to join the Bitcoin Investment Group on Facebook, a very nice place for crypto-enthusiasts
107  Economy / Economics / Re: Coinsortium: Experiences on: September 15, 2014, 03:22:46 PM
Hello everyone,
I am Coinsortium's Community Support Manager  Smiley

Coinsortium is a stock exchange, not a crowdfunding platform like BTCJam or BitlendingClub. What you see listed on the site are securities of crypto companies around the world.
Most of the business there are owned by members of the Bitcoin Investment Group, a VERY interesting place for crypto-entusiasts.

Now let's talk security:

All company owners are subjected to a strong verification via the Ardeva service, which as of today is the strongest way to identify someone in the Bitcoin Community.
This is as far as scam-prevention can go, of course there is no guarantee that the person in question is a honest individual (like in "real world" stocks) and he/she may run with the Bitcoins, that is why we always recommend you undertake your own due dilligence too, however should the necessity arise, any listing owner who has been found to abscond will be taken through arbitration and handled acordingly, with the assistance of the verification documents they have submitted to Ardeva.

About Coinsortium itself as of today we have a userbase of 513 users with a trading volume of 220 BTC, it should count for something. As this was a community driven project which has gained traction quicker than expected, we are in the process of encorporating the business, and this should be completed within the next 4 weeks.

As has been mentioned, we have seen a monthly turnover surpass 220 BTC, which of course, we receive a commission from. It is no way in our interest to be anything but honest with our user base. The more users, the more volume, the more profitable the platform becomes.
108  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Coinsortium - Cryptocurrency Stock Exchange - Free Cryptostocks Migration! on: September 13, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
up!
109  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Coinsortium - Cryptocurrency Stock Exchange - Free Cryptostocks Migration! on: August 21, 2014, 04:59:10 PM
I sir am not spamming, I am just voicing a concern. I am not the one that is taking peoples money though am I? I love when people try to turn the attention away from the real problem.

You are spamming as your concerns have no real basis except grief, so far Coinsortium provided a great and profitable experience.... your problems with the owner are not our business
110  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Coinsortium - Cryptocurrency Stock Exchange - Free Cryptostocks Migration! on: August 21, 2014, 06:52:50 AM
Shouldn't you stop spamming now?
Also that thread... you both made a very very poor impression arguing like that.
111  Economy / Lending / Re: Offering BTC loans [no collateral] on: August 05, 2014, 10:44:07 PM
Approved only for 0.1 btc. Repayment is a biweekly amount of 0.055 btc, so total at the end of 30 days is 0.11 btc.

I've seen you around the lending section, warding off potential scammers here and there. But that doesn't mean you won't commit the act yourself with your current account status. Also, taking out a loan to lend it back to others for a higher interest rate, or using it for marginal trading is not considered a "genuine need". I'm only giving you 0.1 for this purpose. If you agree to the terms above, then post your address.

Sadly I have to refuse. The amount is too small for my needs and 10% interest is too high. Thanks you for your offer though Smiley
112  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Looking for 2 Months Loan 15-20% Interest on: August 05, 2014, 11:03:23 AM
Well, it's not easy to save my money when I have to pay my college by myself. But, thanks for words, Vod! Smiley

Then work on your education and start business later.
113  Economy / Lending / Re: Offering BTC loans [no collateral] on: August 05, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
There are no exact terms. If you look at the list in OP, it should give you an idea. There are reference links to all of them.

My shortest loan given was a duration of only a few hours (already repaid), longest is about a year. I'm not too focused on high interest rates, but rather if the loan is for a genuine need, and if you're trustworthy enough. Of course, "genuine need" and "trustworthy" is not black and white, so that's why I'd have to screen out potential scammers.

The longer the requested duration, the more likely it'll get denied. The larger the amount, the more likely it'll get denied. But your profile and forum activity precedes all of these.

Ok I'll make a small try:

Amount: 0.5 BTC
Duration: 30 days
Interest: 5%
Amount to be repaid: 0,525 BTC
Payment cycle: Weekly(0.13125*4) or Bi-weekly (0.2625 * 2). The latter suits me better, but I can sustain the first.

Purpose: Investments in trusted lending sites and/or bitcoin trading. Either here in the Italian section or on Localbitcoins as it is easier for me to move EUR instead of USD

Means to repay: I have a small SHA256 mining rig (650 GHs), serious investments in BTCJam, Bitlendingclub and Cryptostocks.
114  Economy / Lending / Re: Offering BTC loans [no collateral] on: August 05, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
Denied. Once denied the first time, there is no requesting again. If I approve for a smaller amount than the initial request, then I'll let you know. So for anyone else requesting, think about the amount and duration before you request  Wink

I was going to ask for something then I read this.

Would you mind giving at least some pointers about duration or expected APR? I'm a long term investor and could use a loan from 30 to 120 days with weekly/monthly payments.
Are you open to such terms or you accept only shorter ones?
115  Economy / Lending / Re: $1000 loan so I can challenge Randi - $500,000 return on: July 30, 2014, 06:19:10 AM
Dank seems to be a very intelligent guy.

No blasphemies plz, I doubt he even does drugs. A drug addict isn't that blatant or happy about it.

He is just a child.
116  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Looking for $20,000 investor in company. on: July 29, 2014, 03:48:55 PM
I asked you to notarized it first which costs $10 or even free in some places... You said no and belittled me.. Then as a resolution I asked for your id instead of the notarization.

Then pay for it, you said you would but then...  Grin

You came here looking for a hefty amount of money without disclosing your idea to the public (which is acceptable)

I shown interest and signed your NDA, nex you aren't satisfied and ask for notarization. I said: your idea, you pay for the costs.

And then all of sudden you need my ID instead of paying notarization costs, asked by you!.

No offense man, but red flags all over the deck Huh My identity is worth tens of thousands of "undisclosed ideas"
117  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Looking for $20,000 investor in company. on: July 29, 2014, 02:53:34 PM
1: I have collateral

No boy, you need to cover 110-120% of the loan... otherwise you may as well offer nothing.

2: Please stop being a dumb bitch, him asking you to sign an NDA (which was suggested by another user) and show proof of ID really doesn't scream out scam when it wasn't his idea in the first place.

Please stop making a fool of yourself, also, it's spelt Grail not Graal....

To you it doesn't, since no one funded him I guess I am not alone in my thoughts.

You are of course feel free to call me names as long as you want, maybe I'm not the one who is looking like a fool.  Grin

...and not getting loans funded Tongue
118  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Looking for $20,000 investor in company. on: July 29, 2014, 02:48:00 PM
Yet you cant provide a single piece of proof? Nice one sherlock

Of course I can boy, I have his private messages where he asks me to sign an NDA, then send him ID then notarize the documents etc etc before he can discolose his Holy Graal.

Now stop being a raging bitch because you want a loan without collateral, it makes you silly and you won't get what you want anyways  Tongue
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Looking for 1000 - 1500 DRK loan on: July 29, 2014, 02:45:00 PM
Lmfao nice .delete

What does this mean?

EDIT:

@OnlyHere4Coin: thanks man  Smiley
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Looking for 1000 - 1500 DRK loan on: July 29, 2014, 02:28:32 PM
But it's hard to prove you have sent an anonymous currency, no? 

The blockchain doesn't lie bro
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