Looking for $20,000 investor in company.

[nkocevar]

Not off to a good start yet then...
perhaps you should start off with something that can earn you trust.

I think people might be concerned you are putting in $300 while you want $20k.
If it was such a brilliant idea that would earn like $3-500k in such a small time frame..like you said, you would be getting money from family and friends.. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its not a brilliant idea, in fact i'm not saying anything because we don't know what the idea is

But yeah you haven't really done anything for people to trust you.... plus alot of people are quite worried about giving photo ID and rightly so... I won't give people idea's on what they could do, but photo ID can be quite valuable to people who want it for things of a devious nature.


Does the business plan have anything to do with mining ?
 

So all those who read the business plan, and signed the NDA...without violating the NDA... can you tell us, is this a good idea ? is the idea detailed etc etc ? I am kinda curious now heh..

OP also how do you enforce the NDA with randoms on the internet ? Do they have to supply photo ID when they sign the NDA or something ?

No one has actually read it yet. No one wants to verify the NDA with a photo ID because no one trusts me.

No its more of a tangible thing. An actual business that has nothing to do with bitcoin except that fact that it accepts it as payment

[Justin00]

come on.. tell us the idea.. we all promise not to steal it.
or tell me and I promise I won't steal it.. I can then report back if its a good idea or not...

[bridgesro]

Why can't you publicly reveal the details here?
Also, no information at all probably won't get you any fundings.

Because the idea is one that is easily replicable, but genius in itself.

The NDA and secrecy issue doesn't concern me as much as this statement does. You may be able to stop other people from beating you to market, but you can't stop them from coming in once you've launched. If your idea can be easily replicated, what's to stop established players in the industry from copying your idea and providing it to the market? This is competition that probably has more resources at their disposal. Even if you get your idea out there first, will you be able to hold on to your market share after the competition starts moving in on what you've introduced?

Don't get me wrong: I'm not trying to be critical. If I am, I mean it as constructive criticism. Make sure you have a plan in place to differentiate yourself from your competition. Do whatever you can to protect your idea from copycats that can reach a larger audience than you (or worse, steal your own audience before you really take off). If this can't be done, you'll have a hard time finding an investor. Good luck!

[Sophokles]

you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

The company that will take 5 hour energy out of business, or so I think

Thats an energy drink, right? So, what is your plan? Caffeinated chewing gum, or something? I'm just wondering how this is related to Bitcoin. Why not just ask for a bank loan?

[nkocevar]

you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

The company that will take 5 hour energy out of business, or so I think

Thats an energy drink, right? So, what is your plan? Caffeinated chewing gum, or something? I'm just wondering how this is related to Bitcoin. Why not just ask for a bank loan?

Not an energy drink... I'll pm you

[Killerloop]

Not off to a good start yet then...
perhaps you should start off with something that can earn you trust.

He is an ID scammer, avoid like the plague.

He will ask for your signature AND your ID for a non existing idea.

[the joint]

you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

The company that will take 5 hour energy out of business, or so I think

Is this something like the idea I had to turn the end of a mechanical pencil into a caffeine spritzer?

[nkocevar]

you guys are looking to invest in, ummm....... what exactly ?

The company that will take 5 hour energy out of business, or so I think

Is this something like the idea I had to turn the end of a mechanical pencil into a caffeine spritzer?

No it's the idea of combing a research chemical and an MAOI to provide clean energy for 12-14 hours with no caffeine or B vitamins with no jitters anxiety or crash.... I'm not going into any more details and I love that someone called me an ID scammer xD why the hell would I want killerloops ID he lives in Italy! Maybe an American's ID I would go for if I was a scammer, but he is just overly paranoid

[Justin00]

Any proof of this ?
if just opinion, what is opinion based on ?

Quite the statement to make about our 16 yr old friend.
If I recall correctly he did not even think of the NDA, some one else gave him the idea on page 1.. so it seems odd he is trying to get peoples ID to steal their identity.

Not off to a good start yet then...
perhaps you should start off with something that can earn you trust.

He is an ID scammer, avoid like the plague.

He will ask for your signature AND your ID for a non existing idea.

[Killerloop]

Any proof of this ?
if just opinion, what is opinion based on ?

Quite the statement to make about our 16 yr old friend.
If I recall correctly he did not even think of the NDA, some one else gave him the idea on page 1.. so it seems odd he is trying to get peoples ID to steal their identity.

He will ask for your signature AND your ID card for a non existing idea.

[Justin00]

How do you know its non existing ?
Like I said, he didn't even ask for the NDA until some one else brought it up.

Perhaps you are right, and I am not saying any one should hand over ID.. It does not sound like anybody would anyways.. but I dunno, I just personally don't think that is what the OP is trying to do.


OP tell me you idea The masses are thinking you are upto no good!

[Killerloop]

How do you know its non existing ?

"Fake until proven contrary" rule.

Do not waste your time trying to change my approach or behaviour. If you want to take the risk of an ID theft then PM him and comply with his requests.

[Justin00]

lol Im not interesting in sending my money or ID. Just trying to make it fair for our little friend here.
Just seems odd he didn't even think of asking for ID originally but you seem to think it was his plan all along.

Anyways we will have to agree to disagree.

Perhaps if someone sends ID we can see if their identity gets stolen.
I'd say after your warning (based on just some rule you read or made up) everyone will be to scared to.. and well that is the right the to do anyways - not send ID to anyone on the internet that is.

[josef2000]

If you need that much money:
Simply go to a bank and file a loan

[Killerloop]

If you need that much money:
Simply go to a bank and file a loan

You can't scam a bank

[armin22]

nkocevar, don't worry about Killerloop, he's just a little too paranoid, he loves to make false accusations

[Killerloop]

nkocevar, don't worry about Killerloop, he's just a little too paranoid, he loves to make false accusations

Careful child, you have no experience with him. I do. 

Multiple attempts at identity theft.

[armin22]

nkocevar, don't worry about Killerloop, he's just a little too paranoid, he loves to make false accusations

Careful child, you have no experience with him. I do. 

Multiple attempts at identity theft.

Yet you cant provide a single piece of proof? Nice one sherlock

[Killerloop]

Yet you cant provide a single piece of proof? Nice one sherlock

Of course I can boy, I have his private messages where he asks me to sign an NDA, then send him ID then notarize the documents etc etc before he can discolose his Holy Graal.

Now stop being a raging bitch because you want a loan without collateral, it makes you silly and you won't get what you want anyways 

[armin22]

Yet you cant provide a single piece of proof? Nice one sherlock

Of course I can boy, I have his private messages where he asks me to sign an NDA, then send him ID then notarize the documents etc etc before he can discolose his Holy Graal.

Now stop being a raging bitch because you want a loan without collateral, it makes you silly and you won't get what you want anyways 

1: I have collateral

2: Please stop being a dumb bitch, him asking you to sign an NDA (which was suggested by another user) and show proof of ID really doesn't scream out scam when it wasn't his idea in the first place.

Please stop making a fool of yourself, also, it's spelt Grail not Graal....