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101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin starts to rise on: September 17, 2017, 06:19:37 AM
It is really a good news to all bitcoin users around the world, the only thing why bitcoin dropped so high is because of the newbies were selling in panic and because china has banned ICOs.

actually panic sell can be avoided if only the beginners know that all this is just a scenario and cycle. there are many members here who say to hold bitcoin, but they are still afraid. it's best to make these moments a lesson for making better decisions in the future.
Nope, if you really want have profit when the panic time happens, you should withdraw your money to USDT. USDT is good choice for traders still want trading, because if you are trader, hold your Bitcoin just make you feel more boring.
102  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: September 13, 2017, 05:58:01 PM
BTC  can not be defeated,  many  country once  banned btc , but  all those country  re-accepted  btc  at last.   btc will  be the  worldwide coin in future.
Now, Bitcoin is the currency of the world, nobody or any personal companies can manage it, but important it still illegal and the future of Bitcoin still not clear like your said. Because some rumors about banned crypto of China has made the price of Bitcoin falls down much recently.
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IF ethereum dies... on: September 13, 2017, 05:16:05 PM
Could someone tell me what will happens to those altcoin which base on eth if eth dies?
Lets assume that it would really die then for sure most ICO's would jumped into another platform seeing that most projects as of now are basing on ETH platform which it does really make big contributions on its development this is why its really hard to believe or presumed that ETH would easily die on this way.If its being supported by most project then for sure it wont die.
Indeed, recently other platforms create ICO cannot compete to ICO projects use Ethereum platform. Particular is Waves - one of completior of Ethereum - does not have any projects success (in short time) after crowdsale (can grow price in short term).
104  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What If Bitcoin is banned? on: September 13, 2017, 05:01:19 PM
I will still use it for some transaction, don't matter what happens, still many ways to sell bitcoin..,we just ask mr.google before do it  Grin
The local government cannot fully impose the banning of the usage of Bitcoin in their country. I cannot think of a way that they can do to monitor each and every individual that may be have been using Bitcoin. So if it happens here, I will continue earning some Bitcoins.

I'll just find a way in order to hide my work from our local ISP. I believe that this ban will eventually be lifted.
Although the government cannot banned all Bitcoin user and stop using it, but they can make us cannot create transaction when use Bitcoin. Example if they banned all miners of Bitcoin, do you think the Bitcoin blockchain system still running normally?
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Less Volatility Is Needed? on: September 13, 2017, 06:02:26 AM
less ? nooo. We need High volatility because that's one of the reason why there's a lot of new investors in bitcoin. remember high demand is equals to high price of bitcoin. so if there's a big dump many people would buy bitcoin and that's the demand so it will enter the economy that make the price of bitcoin to go high. bitcoin is popular and also known because of it's volatility.
I am not so sure if volatility attracts investors.
As an investor, I want my money to grow. Not to see it change its worth up and down every day. Volatility means uncertainty as well.
When I look at the stock market, whenever there is uncertainty for a specific stock, the price goes down because a part of the investors sell.
I think that the volatility only attracts traders. Sure, they bring money into the market as well. But as quickly as they deposit it, they withdraw it again.

If you invested at the beginning of the year then you made great profits, bitcoin could lose half its price and you will still have profits that no bank or other investment in the world can give, to me that is more than enough of a reason to like the volatility in bitcoin.
Actually when you are a trader in the crypto market, making a profit 10% per day with small funds is possible is normal, even it very easy for traders have experience. Only that, this profits can pass the profits from save your money in bank Cool
106  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: September 13, 2017, 05:49:28 AM
why so many people store their bitcoin in their wallet for a long time, whether the benefits will they get?

Come share your thoughts

Because holding bitcoins have many advantages. I gained many benefits because of the bitcoin. I first bought bitcoins when the price is still low and I will sell it in the near future.
Why is near future? Do you have not any plans or target price for sell your Bitcoin in future? If you want hold Bitcoin in any terms, you should create some targets before buy and hold it!
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What happened? on: September 11, 2017, 04:12:34 PM
Next time you feel a panic sell coming, sell along and buy back half an hour later.

.. And here is how the panic sell and the dead cat bounce are born Wink
You are right! But I don’t think so there is any need of following the crowd, if you have strong believe in your coin and it has some good history keep it in our wallet and it is definitely going to pay you off. Panic selling is mostly done by newborn investors who are not aware of market trends very well.
Actually if you are a new investor in trading crypto, you should follow the trend (whales) and never choose altcoin low price for investment. Because almost altcoins fall down to low price usually keep this trend till the market creates signal recovery it. Therefore, it can makes you buried capital in longer time than trading altcoin has bullish trend.
108  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: September 11, 2017, 03:59:42 PM
I completely disagree the idea of bitcoin bank i think we don't need it as bitcoin is meant to remain decentralized always and the idea of bank is to centralize bitcoin. Even some regulated web wallets like coinbase, xapo practice same restrictions like normal banks with lots of account lock down and KYC policies which is completely against what bitcoin was developed for.
I think since bitcoin has been popular to everyone even around the world I think bitcoin bank is a great idea. If this would be possible i think it is one of the steppingstone of bitcoin to be accepted by everyone of us even the government of China.

It's even difficult for me to imagine what kind of financial operations such a bank could carry out. He would be simply useless. And there are many risks and disclosure of anonymity.
No, I still do not agree with the idea of bitcoin bank
If we can create a Bitcoin bank still keep nature decentraliztion in Bitcoin, I think this idea still very good. Look like as decentralization created by Waves platform, I think in someday, we will have a bank decentralization like my said Roll Eyes.
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What to buy these days? on: September 11, 2017, 02:59:39 PM
out of the four you mentioned I'd go for ETH, the safest of them all
Right. Etherium is next in line when it comes to crypto supremacy. And though it will have a hard time and would probably wait a little longer because bitcoin is projected to remain on top, eth will be there to challenge
That is right, almost traders are think Ethereum has become a supporter after the price of Bitcoin raised to highest price on the cryptocurrency market. They forget in the past, Bitcoin had a heavyweight opponent compete to it anytime, that is Ethereum Cool
110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin drop? on: September 11, 2017, 02:44:42 PM
If bitcoin will drop its price I am sure that bitcoin will still recover and will still hit what its value as of today, bitcoin right now are very trusted and a lot of people now are using bitcoin. So I guess even if bitcoin drops it will still recover and have a good price in the future!
Although the community of Bitcoin today does not like the past still small, but you have to know recently, almost investors are speculator, they do not have knowledge and experience about cryptomarket, this is advantage for whales create panic easy on the market.
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in ICO, still promising? on: September 09, 2017, 04:28:33 PM
I am a person that gains profit from investing in ICOs but now I'm having second thoughts. I know some ICOs are potential scam so I am really picky to where I put my money.
Anyway, considering with what happened to Ethereum price and with the nearing Aigist 1, do you guys think that it will still be profitable to invest on ICOs mostly on ERC20 tokens and those accepting btc payments?

ICO investment remains profitable only if you choose the right coin. The problem right now is that the choices becomes so many but it also becomes even harder to distinguish legit from scams. The projects appear all good, hiding the scam purpose. Their is a need to dig really deeper as to the real deal of the ICOs. I prefer the ones listed on trusted ICO publications.
Almost ICO projects recently are best place for speculator and MLM groups. The profit from ICO really make many newbie think this is good choice for them investment.
112  Economy / Economics / Re: Moment for buying or selling? on: September 09, 2017, 03:51:26 PM
I'm not a good one, when it comes to calculate right moment to buy or sell. I try to analyse before making a move, but sometimes invalid calculation causes delay of profit or it immediately causes loses.
You never know what can happen, sometimes we are right in our desicions and sometimes not.
Still it is a good thing to analyze before buying something.
Sometimes, it still depends on your lucky when trading and making a profit on the market. Maybe, you think I am superstitious, it very normal because you do not believe have luck in our life. In someday, you will understand my said. Grin
113  Other / Off-topic / Re: I am getting sick of fucking Chinese idiots on: September 09, 2017, 03:41:00 PM
Why don't we just ban China? 

LOL.  Grin But, yes, why can't we just ban them and sail smooth in the crypto world without these people. After all, they seem to be manipulating the market with their decisions. There would not have any drop in price without them. But it seems the market they are offering is really big.
If they want to create a panic market, why do we need to go along with them? Cryptocurrency is decentralization, so we do not let by small community like China control us, we can counterattack them and take advantage cheap price for buy back, then profits is ours.
114  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Should I Choose Bitcoin ?? on: September 09, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
I choose bitcoin because the of the main reason that I can get the opportunity to invest, I have never been an investor in my entire life except when I found bitcoin, it gives us the ease to invest as it does not require us to comply with the regulatory requirement.
Because why would you not choose it. Besides being an asset it will be a digital currency that will give you the opportunity to invest and to have savings. Bitcoin will always be a great help in every peoples live. It will not just help you financial life but also your social life. And also some of you attitude.
I don't agree to improving or helping you in your social life because when you are a bitcoin user then you will have a lot of time that needed to be focus in bitcoin and the time will come that you will not be able to deal with your friends and the other people in your town so it is against or opposite because you need to sacrifice your social life to gain better financial cash flow.
Indeed, when you become to a Bitcoin user, your family, your friends, your wife (or lover) will away from you, it inversely proportional to your success in Bitcoin Grin. Example me, almost people around me now are thinking me look like an autistic boy Cool
115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Chinese ban bitcoin news is 100% pure bullshit on: September 09, 2017, 03:08:49 PM
It seems this bad news really affect traders inside China.  The price of bitcoin plummet in there resulting to lower price, as I recall a news stated that Bitcoin price fall under $4000 after the news about closing exchanges spreads in the internet.  We are still confused whether this statement is true or not but the impact of such news had already been felt.  I hope this won't badly affect the global market of Bitcoin .
If just by bad news can make the price of Bitcoin fall down fast from high price, it proves Bitcoin not stable and almost investor are speculator. For me, this crash like a test for check mentality of traders on market created by whales Smiley
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I do not have the guts to buy bitcoins now. on: September 09, 2017, 12:04:59 PM
For me also! I don't have a guts to buy bitcoin because it is too high for me, I just did is joining bounty campaign here and earn bitcoin without investing any cents from my pocket.

This is the situation with most of the people around us as bitcoin value is 4500$ and this is not a small amount. This is not the question about guts but more importantly the question of spare money in hand to be able to convert it in Bitcoins.
I think even if those people who have money with them to buy bitcoin now, may think twice of buying it at such a high price. There are number of factors for this , the most important being that they think bitcoin may have reach its peak and it may go down in value in near future.
If bearish trend just is short term, I still buy Bitcoin because it will comeback, correction of the price is normal with Bitcoin. However, the risk when buy back Bitcoin always high, maybe it will continue bearish trend by panic seller.
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Invest in Bitcoin right now? on: September 08, 2017, 07:40:50 PM
Last days were very hard and I guess not only for BTC noobs like me...
I already found out that it is important not to panic, even if you see that your BTC's are 20% less worth in a few hours time.

Probably nobody expected the 'China thing' but I'm happy to see that prices are kind of back to 'normal' again.
Still it is very hard to pick the right time to buy, but that is all part of the game.

I hope that I can see some profit at the end of the year... I won't sell at loss, that's not worth it.



Even if there are speculation that bitcoin value would still goes up this coming November I really think about not going in an investment by that month, because bitcoin is really unpredictable and the speculation is really just a speculation  that some guys brought up because they really want bitcoin to really make it big, so they can income because of the value of bitcoin,

I say that you can invest after the November event occur and Subside because of the impending Fork that is about to come.

You don't really need to speculate it. Just go ahead and buy bitcoin if you can store them for three years. 2020 will be very different in terms of price and value for bitcoin.
The price of Bitcoin in 2020 still is unknown, maybe in that time, the price of it = 1/3 current price! Grin Future of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency are undefined like my said, so if you try invest in long term 3 years, you can loss your money if do not have any backup plans.
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty] InvestFeed #1 Cryptocurrency Incentivized Social Network - Bounty on: September 08, 2017, 07:17:45 PM
hey guys just bought my first bag of IFT, is there a slack channel for investFeed?
Thanks!
Maybe the slack channel of InvestFeed had deleted in past time, if you want join to community InvestFeed, you can follow them in ANN thread or reddit, twitter. If you still want join to group discuss of InvestFeed, you can try join to Telegram group : https://t.me/investfeed

Good luck!
119  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 08, 2017, 07:02:55 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas

I think that one good way to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything and more of being "small and secure" is by investing. Just put in your money there, no need to trade or anything, and wait until it gains profit.
holding bitcoin will not give you a steady income dude, let it be clear. even you do not know when prices will go up and you do not know when you'll sell your bitcoin and make a profit right? you can make a profit on a daily basis or even not get a profit though, hold and investment is not a steady income #imo
In my opinion, make a profit everyday difficult than earn a huge profit from hold my Bitcoin in long term. Because I need spend my time for reseach the way make that profit, if I try trading, I will loss my money in someday. So, in cryptocurrency world, really do not have steady income Grin
120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is a good investment you can do with BTC? on: September 08, 2017, 06:19:00 PM
Yes the holding is good and that's one of the best ideas to invest. And there's also another way to earn your bitcoins.
Trading - This is where you just need to buy altcoins just like Bitcoins. You have the possibility to earn big money.
Investment site - Here you just need to invest and let your money earn every day. Usually the income is 0.5% daily to 1% daily low cost but you will earn it if you are encouraged to join others.
by which you will also earn a lot of money.
This gambling is also the same as investment. But it's risky because it can swallow in a bit of your bitcoins. There are many others but I really want to recommend is trading.

Brother, gambling is not the same as an investment. Investment is something which guarantees return on your money over time, whereas gambling is a surefire way to lose all of your money over time. I do not recommend gambling to anyone because it is not a good way to make Bitcoins, only luck and you will lose everything.

Gambling can be an investment only if you invest on the house's bankroll, what means you will make profit when the casino makes profit and as we know the casino always make profit on long term you will make profit as well. Not all casinos have this option.
I cannot understand your explain? What is house's bankroll? Do you mean when invest to gambling at home, you can earn profit? Or if you know the casino can helps you make profit everyday (in long term), gambling also good choice for invesment with Bitcoin?
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