Why would you rule out all out war? OF course it could happen and highly likely it will at some point if China continues to expand as a world power. There's no way the US will allow itself to be relegated to #2. History has shown time and time again that war is the inevitable outcome.

That's right. You tell everyone what their interests are cause they're too stupid to know right? Maybe you should also tell them what they can and can't say, what job they're allowed to work at and so on and so forth. Cause you would certainly know better than them what's best for them.

While it can be said that nazism had a lot of traits similar to socialism, it wasn't their ideology and so they would pick and choose and change things as needed in order to achieve their end goal by any means sort of thing. That article only seems to talk about the nuts and bolts but ignores the overall ideology that drove them. Without the ideology, they really don't have much ground to stand on in calling it socialism. Which is why I had said it was their own "form" of socialism.

lol.... oh please. I apparently know more than enough to know when you were asking questions that had zero bearing on what I had responded to. Seems like you're the only one whining. But yeah, you probably do need a nap since you strained that big brain of yours. Funny how a troll ends up adding me to his ignore list.

I did not say nazism is socialism.. I did not say it was socialist. For someone with such a big brain that we should all bow to you seem to have some reading comprehension issues at the very least.

Right. I didn't say much. And I told you why. Beyond that, it's not my fault you went off on some tangent that had nothing to do with what I responded to of yours and thus you got all the responses you did. Maybe you need to go take a nap. You implied you're old. You probably need to rest now.

Supreme court doesn't agree with you but instead they have found that the government has wide latitude to tax and spend in service of the "general welfare". Like I said. Unless it violates the "law", they can do what they want and to date the Supreme court has determined they're not violating the law.

That has zero bearing on your initial claim but is instead nothing more than a differentiation in one aspect between Nazism and socialism.

Where the hell did you get the "left wing Nazism" from? You seriously need to go back and look at what I responded to of yours cause at this point you just seem to be off on some tangent.

Actually yes, it is immaterial. Nor does why they were "persecuted" have anything to do with you're initial claim. Do you need to go back and re read what you said so maybe you stop dicking around with shit that has no bearing on it.

Immaterial as to whether or not it's compatible. Seriously. Are you just going to stroke yourself off through out a bunch of things that have no bearing on your initial claim? Cause this really is wasting my time now.

Immaterial to your initial claim.

Yes, you do. Maybe start with Mussolini.


That would be a waste of my time as they have no bearing on your initial statement. Unless maybe what you said and what you think you said are two different things.

Nice avoiding. But I thought this was about historical accuracy as opposed to "arguments". Besides. I already said I wasn't going to bother pointing out everything wrong. I had started to write a response and then I realized that it was going to take a bunch of time and given you're nothing more than a drive by troll who spits out a couple lines to stroke your ego. calls people stupid and moves on, you weren't worth the effort. But hey. I'm sure all us stupid people would greatly appreciate someone with your massive intellect sharing with us all your in depth knowledge. Or you could carry on and go jerk yourself of with your brilliant little posts that add no value at all. Either way, you turned into a few minutes of entertainment.

You mean how I replied to yours at the start? Gee. Maybe you should be backing up your claims to support your initial disparaging remarks.

Yeah.. I really believe you cause when someone does those sorts of claims it really makes me think you're an adult. Seriously. What is that even supposed to say.... Oh look at me.. my brain is so big you must bow to my superior intellect... Please. that's pathetic at best.

Sorry, no infowars for me. Just real historical facts which you clearly have never seen.

There's so much wrong with what you said that I don't even know where to start. The only thing you got right was about being totally ignorant in history cause you clearly are.

Oh good lord. It doesn't have to say anything about a mandate because that's not what it's purpose is. It's the core laws that the government has to adhere to. The "people" are the government and they can provide anything they want to each other including any social programs they want as long as it doesn't violate the "law" of the constitution.



Good chance for sure. Democrats are just so stupid sometimes when it comes to messaging.

Sorry, but the stories my grandparents would tell me about what was going on in Germany prior to when they fled means that when I see more than just the typical policy debates going on, I know it's time to take a closer look at things and not bury ones head in the sand. He's clearly using that socialist label for a reason that makes zero sense which means it needs to be looked into and seriously considered. The movement on Bernie's side feels far different than what happened with Trump. I'm far more concerned about Bernie and his supporters at this point than I am about Trump and that's saying something.


No. Just no. There is no capitalism in socialism. Period. Forms of socialism have developed to include capitalism. In the US and many other countries, it's more accurate to say that capitalism has developed to include some socialism. "Everyone" wants some level of social programs. What's happening though is that there is a movement to fundamentally shift the current balance and flip it to more predominantly socialism. You can either just ignore it and let it happen or you can make a conscious decision to support it or not taking into account the possible long term ramifications.

That's just your opinion/wish/fantasy and not a fact. The government is of, by and for the people and it they want it to do so then they will.

Why are you talking about healthcare as if he was saying that was "evil"? Pretty sure he was talking about socialism after my post about Bernie and what he says he is.

Germany had their own "form" of socialism with anti capitalism being a big part of it. And while they didn't want to do social programs, they ended up having to and made up some "racial" justification for it. Not like any of that really matters.

USSR communism derived itself from socialism.

Venezula is in "crisis" because of their socialist government, their mismanagement or the oil resources and the big drop in oil prices which they never prepared for. Could throw in sanctions as well as a contributing factor. I will say though, as someone who has friends there that I talk to regularly, they all are not happy with how the west portrays what's going on in their country. "Misleading" is the nicer phrase they tend to use.

You can certainly say it's the people in charge that are "evil" etc.. But then you have to ask yourself why that form of government tends to lead to that.


I posted what a Democratic Socialist is and that's what Bernie says he is. Not good. And as I said, maybe he's confused. But I went and checked and he knows very well that what he appears to promote is social democracy (he's used that term and he points to social democracies as examples) and yet he persists with using the other term for some reason and it almost looks like he's trying to redefine it for his own purposes. That makes zero sense and opens the door to all sorts of negative speculations as to his motivations for doing that. It also makes it very easy for the right to defeat him as the republicans are experts at fear mongering. Just need to run ads saying that he says he's a democratic socialist followed by the definition. They don't even have to get dirty although you know they will.