It should not be difficult to find evidence yourself though. Just pick one person who has added lauda to their trust list; there is a ~1 in 9 chance of it being a clearly purchased account, and from there it should not be difficult to find the rest.
The burden of proof is on the accuser. You make a pretty shitty case if you can't provide such, and instead tell people to find it themselves. There is no burden of proof in the court of public opinion. This is just a smear campaign although I do suspect there may be some small truths to some of it. Of course there are burdens of proof if you are going to allege something then you need to provide a clear description of what you are alleging, and you have to provide at least some facts and logic to support what it is that you are alleging to be some kind of problem, whether that is breach of rules or morality or law. huh? Maybe we live in different realties. When I look around I see people making claims, blatantly lying about things but as long as you have enough sheep believing you it becomes the "truth", at least for a certain portion of the population. I did say "smear campaign" did I not? i.e. "a plan to discredit a public figure by making false or dubious accusations". Don't need any proof when that's your plan. |
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The Litecoin owner Charlie Lee says in twiter that, Litecoin Cash is a scam! So, tell me, what kind of idiot you have to be, buying it or investing money mining it?  How the hell listed price at youbit is 5-6$ , when there are no real buyers and sellers? Me too have litecoin cash, i can give it to you with 50% discount! Want to buy? Charlie Lee's mad LCC has 90% cheaper transaction fees then LTC. People that got free LCC in dump like you don't want it and sell for $1. LCC aiming long term for 1/10 price of LTC. Reading scam supporters always is punishment for me! You calling Litecoin owner a lier? People like you and Charlie need to be more careful with throwing around buzz words like scam. Truthfully he's probably mostly mad their using the word litecoin in the fork. Charlie is calling LCC a scam because he thinks LCC is trying to confuse people into thinking it's LTC. LTC can not be mined with bitcoin miners using sha256 algo they are different coins. I am not calling him a lier, but just because he says something doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Exactly. Even if the devs dump and then disappear (which you could then say it was a "scam"), as long as there could be a community takeover, the coin could last awhile if people keep mining it. I don't see much of a real future for this though other than something to trade and make some money from. It offers no solutions to the major issues of all cryto. I disagree entirely that it doesn't address any issues with cryptocurrencies. For one, the only SHA-256 coin worth mining atm (assuming you don't want to mine BTC due to extremely high fees, difficulty, time to transfer, etc,) because the only other SHA256 coins are truly "scams" or coins with old irrelevant code that's no longer the industry standard. This coin gives us updated code with the best difficulty adjustment algorithm available integrated into it. It's an easily and cheaply tradable SHA256 alternative with fixes to things like difficulty, blockchain size, block time/transfer time. There is no better SHA256 coin available right now other than BTC and BCC, neither of which have the updated difficulty adjustments and low transfer fees. There's no reason that SHA256 should become obsolete and before this coin, it had practically had become obsolete. Also, in my opinion the fork is a great way to distribute the coin in a fair manner. It's just a solid coin in my opinion, regardless of whether or not it's SHA256 compatible. It's just made better by the fact that it is minable with SHA256. The problem with allowing ASIC mining for any coin is that it can lead to centralization. Why do you think almost every other coin out there tries to make themselves ASIC resistant. There are coins out there where the developers have clearly stated that if ASICS are ever developed for them, they will implement a new algo to prevent that because they know keeping the mining in the hands of the masses via CPU/GPU mining is the only way to ensure decentralization. That issue is one of the biggest problems with crypto. Another one, which we see all the time with bitcoin, is using a "fixed" fee. It's fine when the coin isn't popular but when it gets a lot bigger and the price goes up, the fee is far too large. I really don't understand why coins (there might be a couple that do this actually) don't just use a percentage of your transaction amount. There are many other problems with crypto but this coin has done nothing to address them. They've just done what others have done but use litecoin as the base. |
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the coin could last awhile if people keep mining it.... i have free electric and i'm not mining it. just saying. Given all your posts in this thread that doesn't surprise me at all. But I'm sure many others will as long as it's profitable. If it were profitable, my nicehash earnings would have gone up? I'd like to know exactly where it can be sold for a profit? Apparently there's a couple places. Don't know if a profit could be made though. You're the sort of person who cries, moans and bitches about things but you'll stop saying anything if the price goes up and it could be sold for a good profit. What does it all matter really though. This place is so filled with scams etc that you just have to get in and out quickly and move on to the next piece of crap. You roll your dice and take your chances. OK, fair point, to which I will concede. And it is the case that there have been so many of these types of fork over the years that people are allowed to get annoyed by them... being the first fork off LTC, posed a huge opportunity for the developers... but DAMN, that pre-mine. I have a small amount of LCC but i'd rather be mining BTC, is really where I am at the moment. Going SHA256, I feel was also a mistake... should have been scrypt2, similar to Verium, which is completely ASIC resistant (for now) and can only be mined via CPU. If you want to start a marathon race at the start... then don't begin the race with contestants who own rocket-packs. Massive mining operations got in on this unfortunately it's no not just the pre-mine that can be expected to be dumped at any time - this only serves to ensure anyone who wants to make money from LCC, really has to sell off right away. Yeah, the few changes they made to the coin are pretty much meaningless and things like SHA256 just makes one think they just want to throw their existing miners at it. The whole premise of this coin is ridiculous but hey... het some money out of it and move on. That's what I did with litecoindark a few years back. |
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The Litecoin owner Charlie Lee says in twiter that, Litecoin Cash is a scam! So, tell me, what kind of idiot you have to be, buying it or investing money mining it? How the hell listed price at youbit is 5-6$ , when there are no real buyers and sellers? Me too have litecoin cash, i can give it to you with 50% discount! Want to buy? Charlie Lee is not the owner of Litecoin. Bitcoin Core people also call Bitcoin Cash a scam.. 'scam' is a word very lightely used in the crypto world. as soon as someone opposes sometthing, it is quickly labeled 'scam'. Bitcoin Cash being a scam or not (i do not like it), it still has its own use, its community, its blockchain, its value... Crypto is by nature permissionless. the value derives from the support that the communitty is willing to give to it. Litecoin Cash have issues with wallets, issues with network and no open deposits at yobit or anywhere. Dev was very active here till date of fork, then no word from him last 6 days. So , 0% trust for coin, 0% support. I heard somewhere that you can deposit LCC at crypto-bridge.org so you might want to check that out. Apparently devs are active on Discord but yeah, not being in here at least once a day isn't very professional IMO. I've never heard of many of these exchanges though so no idea of it's history. |
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It should not be difficult to find evidence yourself though. Just pick one person who has added lauda to their trust list; there is a ~1 in 9 chance of it being a clearly purchased account, and from there it should not be difficult to find the rest.
The burden of proof is on the accuser. You make a pretty shitty case if you can't provide such, and instead tell people to find it themselves. There is no burden of proof in the court of public opinion. This is just a smear campaign although I do suspect there may be some small truths to some of it. |
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the coin could last awhile if people keep mining it.... i have free electric and i'm not mining it. just saying. Given all your posts in this thread that doesn't surprise me at all. But I'm sure many others will as long as it's profitable. If it were profitable, my nicehash earnings would have gone up? I'd like to know exactly where it can be sold for a profit? Apparently there's a couple places. Don't know if a profit could be made though. You're the sort of person who cries, moans and bitches about things but you'll stop saying anything if the price goes up and it could be sold for a good profit. What does it all matter really though. This place is so filled with scams etc that you just have to get in and out quickly and move on to the next piece of crap. You roll your dice and take your chances. |
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the coin could last awhile if people keep mining it.... i have free electric and i'm not mining it. just saying. Given all your posts in this thread that doesn't surprise me at all. But I'm sure many others will as long as it's profitable. |
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I recently read a post by someone that said they had bought an account. And yet I think that same person is one that gives to negative trust for others doing it. At the very least, I suspect those that do hand out negative trust for that sort of thing didn't give them any since that person is one of the "in" crowd. Didn't care enough to really look into more but it wouldn't surprise me if this was the case. The hypocrisy amongst some people on this forum is astounding. Guess it shouldn't surprise me since it's just a forum and people seem to think it doesn't really matter.
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guys has somebody already tried to claim lcc with electrum litecoin wallet? haven't found official info from electrum
What makes you think you could use the electrum litecoin wallet with LCC? You need the LCC wallet for this coin. |
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The Litecoin owner Charlie Lee says in twiter that, Litecoin Cash is a scam! So, tell me, what kind of idiot you have to be, buying it or investing money mining it? How the hell listed price at youbit is 5-6$ , when there are no real buyers and sellers? Me too have litecoin cash, i can give it to you with 50% discount! Want to buy? Charlie Lee's mad LCC has 90% cheaper transaction fees then LTC. People that got free LCC in dump like you don't want it and sell for $1. LCC aiming long term for 1/10 price of LTC. Reading scam supporters always is punishment for me! You calling Litecoin owner a lier? People like you and Charlie need to be more careful with throwing around buzz words like scam. Truthfully he's probably mostly mad their using the word litecoin in the fork. Charlie is calling LCC a scam because he thinks LCC is trying to confuse people into thinking it's LTC. LTC can not be mined with bitcoin miners using sha256 algo they are different coins. I am not calling him a lier, but just because he says something doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Exactly. Even if the devs dump and then disappear (which you could then say it was a "scam"), as long as there could be a community takeover, the coin could last awhile if people keep mining it. I don't see much of a real future for this though other than something to trade and make some money from. It offers no solutions to the major issues of all cryto. |
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I see the koinbi guys have made it over here. Beware people. Last I looked at it, it's setup to look fantastic for arbitrage but people are reporting you can't get you're coins out of it. i.e. that it's a scam.
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What exactly does Charlie have to do with any of this?
He was pretty vocal about calling the fork a scam, so I thought I was taking the cautious route by waiting to see how things got off the ground. Looks like that's my loss, but hopefully the fork goes well. History has shown that these sorts of things end up being a scam or simply never really going anywhere. Using the name of the coin that it's forked from is usually the first sign. How many people remember litecoindark? I made some money out of that one but as soon as I saw the writing on the wall so to speak, I got out. Typically theses things go the route of, devs come across as serious people with real plans, coin gets released, there's an initial pump and dump where many will then disappear. Sometimes it will go for a bit longer and then there's a much bigger pump and dump.. After which they usually disappear leaving a bunch of bag holders. Then there might be a community take over and a slow death. It's POW so it has a better chance of keeping itself going than a POS coin. But who knows, maybe these guys will be the exception. |
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Hope you guys can help with some clarification or instructions. I've had LTC in Coinbase prior to the fork, did I miss out on LCC here? I can't seem to find any coherent info as it relates to Coinbase. Thanks in advance.
I can't be the only one in this situation... Can someone suggest a better place to ask this question or find the answer? Coinbase support has been no help. The instructions on Litecoinca.sh state to wait until after the fork, which seemed to be the safest option. But, I'm still up against not having my private keys. Thanks. Sorry to say if you had your coins in any exchange other than the ones on the litecoinca.sh website at the current time you will not be able to claim your free coins. If this coin does well in the future and is sustainable there will be pressure on the big exchanges to give users their coins, sim to what happen when people started to threaten coinbase with lawsuits to get their bitcoin cash. Good luck hopefully things will pick up once its able to trade. Thanks for the reply, Miner. I was erring on the side of caution but guess I misunderstood. Gotta say, Charlie just lost all credibility in my book. What exactly does Charlie have to do with any of this? |
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Hey guys,
how 'bout those warnings from Avast ?? Did you notice anything unusual ?
It keeps blocking it as a "threat"; ok, I know I can add it as an exclusion, but haven't noticed this with the other wallets?? So I appreciate your comments and experience with this.
Thanks.
I have been awaiting these delayed posts. Please post some proofs. It gives people something to chew on. WTF are U talking about ?? It's like were awaiting for some trolling  ?? what about these warnings? ?  |
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Yes, you will need a LCC wallet to get LCC coins using your LTC private keys. To be safe move your LTC to a temporary wallet and sweep the LTC private keys from the empty LTC wallet in to the LCC wallet. Once you are done you can move your LTC back to the original wallet. Result is 2 wallets. One with LTC and one with LCC. Good Luck!!!
wow dude, when we don't know we don't give advice, specialy about security you need a new wallet, don't send back your ltc in the wallet where you provided the private key for claim your lcc this advice works for any fork coin may be the team is legit, but why takes so much risk? you need less 5mn for create a new wallet When you move the LTC back to the original wallet new private keys are generated. You don't use the old keys (so there was nothing wrong with my advice!) For security, yes I agree using a "burner" wallet to hold LTC would work too. When you're saying "wallet", people are going to assume you mean to send them back to the same address (which is the same key)... Thus why the other guy made his post. You need to be crystal clear about this stuff. |
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hello guys, ive been following this thread since beginning.
just a quick question from noob here..
i have some ltc on my trezor before the fork and just wanna ask is it possible to claim LCC and if yes, how?
thanks guy
I had LTC on my Trezor wallet during the time of the fork also. I'm wondering if anyone has figured out how to claim LCC from a Trezor wallet or if it is even possible. Has anyone done this yet? I'm not all that familiar with products like Trezor but from what I've read, there's no way to get the private key out if it so you wouldn't be able to do it. Don't think I'd like that myself but I guess that's the price one has to pay for having the additional security. However, if you had a separate wallet and then imported the private keys into Trezor, and you can still get or have that private key, you should be able to do it. You might want to ask the question on their reddit though. https://www.reddit.com/r/TREZOR/Edit: I just found the following info but it applies to bitcoin. Might be able to do the same thing with litecoin if you can find a wallet that uses a passphrase as well. There's this one https://electrum-ltc.org/ but it talks about a 12 word phrase and Trezor uses 24 so not sure if you can make it work or not. Remember, once you get your private key, but before you import them into the LCC wallet, you want to move all your coins from your Trezor wallet to a brand new one so the old one has 0 in it. " If you want to see the private keys you can create a wallet on Electrum using the seed words from your Trezor. This will create the bitcoin wallets for you where you will be able to see the private keys. I will however strongly advise you not to do this. If you do this you might compromise the 24 seed words and this is the last thing you want to do. Those 24 seed words is like a master private key. Anybody who gets their hands on them have full access to your whole wallet so consider them as compromised if they have 'touched' a computer." |
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Very nice work. I still need to read the audit but is there a document somewhere that outlines what's been changed in this release that addresses (point by point would be nice), concerns etc raised in the audit?
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Does anyone know when the value will stop falling?   Probably when it reaches the pre-pump levels. |
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"Windows defender smartscan prevented an unrecognised app from starting. Running this app may put your PC at risk." ... when i try to install 64bit wallet. Checksum was ok. Any thoughts?  That's the windows virus program. Could be a false positive which would require you setting up an exception. Some people run this stuff in a sandbox type setup so if they have viruses, they can catch it and just rebuild the system again. However, did anyone think to run it thru VirusTotal? Last time I ran litecoin core through it, it was one of the few coins that was completely clean. A lot will have stuff like "bitcoin miner" stuff flagged. The downloaded file seems ok. Not installing it right now but scanning the actual exe would be a good idea as well. https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/f9e673b95a370551a15a695d9a57d660e8a59228f402855c3b179cf89823cac6/detection |
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