So how many did you purchase? None. Don't tell me you got everything tied up in BFL preorders
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So how many did you purchase?
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seeing cablepair and luke-jr being the guys behind, and they seem to be one of the driving forces behind bitcoin in mining regard. well more like jumped on it I just wish some hardware would already arrive, with all these bloody preorders >_<
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just did order also a SC with order #6894 No idea what my earlier order numbers were
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I just hope when they start shipping there wouldn't be continuously an inherent 6-8 week wait for getting it delivered ... Personally i think they need try to schedule shipments so that international and national customers get at approximately the same time, and make sure that no single order gets at once too much, say FIRST batch of shipment is limited to 2 per for the first say, 500 customers, then 1 per next 500 customers. Then start shipping in FIFO manner. That way as large group of people as possible gets at least something early on AND no one can get like 4TH worth while no one else gets nothing. Or if they have enough products to be shipped, then from get go FIFO manner, but the largest orders ship in 2 shipments, second one with 3 business day delay. Knowing BFL tho, they will have very limited number at beginning, and if i order today a SC it will be February before shipment if they are right on schedule They need to seriously ramp up the production, if i knew a Single would ship tomorrow if ordered today, i would not hesitate to order RIGHT NOW at least 4 of them.
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While neither is a good thing, it's not definitive proof of scam.
I agree. They're just signs of a scam -- things that make it a bit more likely that an offer is a scam. And, on the other hand, this is a company with an actual history of successfully producing and delivering innovative products. Someone truly looking to make a scam will make every single effort not to look like scam.
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Uncoupled ordering and payments systems are definitely a sign of a scam. Taking payment for pre-orders is also a sign of a scam. However, a company history of delivering actual innovative products is a big sign of a non-scam.
PreOrders are not a definitive sign of scam. We begun with just preorders, waiting time was close to 2 months for DC to setup servers. Pre-orders in certain industries is quite normal infact. Uncoupled ordering and payments is not a definitive sign of a scam, A LOT of companies still operate that way. Even some major companies. I can name a few DCs off the bat which operate this way, one rather large even which doesn't even have online billing system customers could access! While neither is a good thing, it's not definitive proof of scam.
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My main concern is that their order system seems to be in no way connected to their payment processing system.
Doesn't need to be if the payments are manually verified. That's how things worked BEFORE internet
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missing from the list is that i received mine 5th of June. They were in customs for a ~week prior to that.
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110BTC for both of them? Or just one of them?
One
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finally got mine out of customs today
Wow, how long did that take? Hope they didn't charge you too much. They were in customs for 1½ weeks. VAT 23% got applied but i get that back in couple of months as i bought them as a business. Original purchase confirmed 16th of March
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2x Gigabyte HD7970 3Gb DDR5 Reference Design Both are new, never installed, only another box has been opened, and even then GPU hasn't been taken out of it's packaging. Warranty valid, and will handle if needed (Buyer will pay postage for warranty) Never had the time to install, and they've been sitting around unused. Price: 110BTC including shipping or delivery near Helsinki, Finland Price excl. VAT, VAT will be applied for EU residents. Price not negotiable. Pictures: http://imgur.com/a/PaWDuPayment: BTC, Paypal, IBAN Wiretransfer, Cash
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finally got mine out of customs today
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Ordered 14th of March Not shipped yet. Quantity: 2
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Have you looked at the tent type garages? They are sold like for less than 200€ at cheapest ... Tho i would strengthen the joints, but then again we get quite nasty winters and i've seen one holding just fine through winter.
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I've just received 2 Bitforce Singles! [REV 2]
1st device ordered @ 23 December 2011 2nd device ordered @ 2 January 2012
USPS Tracking Number "for both devices in one shipment" received @ 13 March 2012 Delivered @ 26 March 2012
So in in best case they are now under 3month wait.
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Ok youre right, do you have a bfl yet?
en route and few are still available. Ordering more after the first ones arrive, and quantity depends upon preorders. Also waiting on delivery for some 7970s
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I like it, but now it just seems cheaper to buy a bfl for 599 for life
Yeah the exchange rate :/ Then again you need to add electrical, space, maintenance, failure rate etc. on the price of owned one. I'm working on assumption that BFL Single MTBF is just 2years if lucky. At 0.10$/kWh you are also spending ~70$ on electricity a year + the host machine. If you need A/C add another 30-50%. Also BFL Single shipping is 34$ That already brings ownership of one for a year to over 700$ I based my maths on a 1.28 exchange rate.
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Yeah I don't get it. Is it $261 setup, never refunded, PER item? $67/month BFL single $57/month 7970
Setup fees are PER item, never to be refunded. It's the upfront cost. The rate per month stays same any billing cycle, so if you choose semi-annual payment cycle you pay monthly rate * 6 at that time, and again monthly rate * 6 after 6months. Setup fee is *NON-RECURRING CHARGE*, and amount depends on payment cycle. If you choose monthly it is 175€, if you choose 6months or longer it is 75€ You also got your USD<>EUR exchange rate incorrect. So, 6month payment is: 75€ setup fee: 100.50USD 6 months recurring charge: 49.95€*6=299.7€ or 401.60USD Total: 502.10USD for first 6months Then 401.60USD recurring charge. *NOTE: It seems USD rate jumped today, just yesterday paypal quoted 1.26 when purchasing stuff from the US :/ That or Paypal has significantly increased their currency exchange profit margin. Latter is more likely.
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