I'm not blindly following him, the only thing what i like is what Gulden is doing for the future
Remember i have see the first Day of Gulden 😂
Oh sure I remember. Like I also remember you have been kicked out of the community twice (once even before Slack started) for stealing community funds. Yet you still get to stay in the closed ward of the Gulden slack, while everyone that simply asked about the premine has been banned. Think about that for a change and what it says about Rijk's values mr. Bram V. |
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I don't understand the issue here. Rijk only promised development, he can muff dive hookers in the red light district for all I care, if he is becoming rich off Gulden it's good because he can support the coin for longer.
Wouldn't he have left Gulden after December if he wasn't in it for the long term, wouldn't people in the community take him to court if he was doing anything illegal? He isn't anonymous and he has had meetups with the community, if his intention was to steal money he wouldn't be stupid enough to do this.
I get it why you don't understand it. It's confusing indeed. You see, it's not Rijk that is stupid here (on the contrary)! It's his community that has been dumbed out by a constant stream of doctrine and fear of getting banned. They simply don't dare to raise critical questions anymore or simply have stopped caring. Rijk can actually piss in the punchbowl and they would all applaud and take a zip! |
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 Great, yet another heavily moderated, positive only, thread by a Gulden zombiesupporter. Don’t you think we have enough of those by now?  At least you could have shown some form of creativity by not giving it exactly the same title as this one. Edit by Ghandi Pissman I don't care, people like you we have to moderated the thread Think about that  Yep, got it!: It's people like you with the fierce need to force allowance of only positive comment and start heavily moderated platforms that demand for people like me and forums like this! Your turn  If you don't like what Gulden is and stands for leaf Gulden, we don't want haters, fuds and trolls You get it all wrong my friend. I love what Gulden stands for, I just don't like the way it's treated. The disrespect your leader has for you is embarrassing! Also the way you are blindly following his doctrine to only allow positive feedback and downtalk anyone with another vision is freighting. So no, I won't leave, sorry. |
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Great, yet another heavily moderated, positive only, thread by a Gulden zombiesupporter. Don’t you think we have enough of those by now? At least you could have shown some form of creativity by not giving it exactly the same title as this one. Edit by Ghandi Pissman I don't care, people like you we have to moderated the thread Think about that Yep, got it!: It's people like you with the fierce need to force allowance of only positive comment and start heavily moderated platforms that demand for people like me and forums like this! Your turn |
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About the conferences: Rijk never goes to any of them, he actually made fun of someone inviting him to a conference as a guest speak. His reaction? He made fun of him in Slack. The only thing I can recall Rijk doing is the RTL Z interview. https://www.rtlz.nl/cryptocurrency/gulden-moet-de-bitcoin-doen-vergetenOur community is so good: noone bothered to translate it to other languages. Let me translate what Rijk said between 1:28 and 2:41 Rijk: I get paid as a developer, so that's just a standard salary and next to that I have some Gulden as investment. <- Yeah, 100mm you stole from the community Interviewer: But, by whom are you paid then?Rijk: Well, truly? By the community. We have a stack as preliminary investment, and from that we get our payment (salary), also the developers with whom I work get paid that way.Interviewer: In Gulden?Rijk: In Guldens, indeed.This interview was on 20 December 2017 people, well after the big fat pot of BTC was filled from the shares and turned into Euro's. So here we have your fearless leader lying on national television already! But hey, al the other stuff he said must be honest and truthful right? |
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About the conferences: Rijk never goes to any of them, he actually made fun of someone inviting him to a conference as a guest speak. His reaction? He made fun of him in Slack. The only thing I can recall Rijk doing is the RTL Z interview. https://www.rtlz.nl/cryptocurrency/gulden-moet-de-bitcoin-doen-vergetenOur community is so good: noone bothered to translate it to other languages. Why is Gulden failing? Because it's "a community driven cryptocurrency". --- I have always learned that you should critize if you don't have a solution. So here it is Rijk: Getting the word out.Start doing conferences. If you are scared of a crowd, then just make the current spokesman a 'co-founder' instead of spokesman, and let him attend these events. Conferences and other events really like the word founder, not community member or gulden enthusiast. (Re)gaining trust.You said in the interview you wanted to do it better than Bitcoin. Then give us insights in your financial results. We don't know who Satoshi is, we do know who Rijk is. We just don't know wether your motives are changing the world, or changing your world. Show us how the crowdfunded Bitcoins are spent, if they are spent. Show us who is getting payed by Gulden BV. Show us how much. Start being transparant. Tell us about the premine. Start being honest. We really need transparency. --- Finally, a request to those who have been criticizing Gulden and Rijk on this forum. Please for a change: start enlighten us with the problems you see and how you would like to see them fixed (and please do not say: Rijk is the problem, he has to step down. Rather give some advice on how to improve) I totally agree! One small comment on the last sentence though: If I would get 1000 Gulden for every ban Rijk has done on people that have done just that, I could open up 50 witness accounts now! |
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Over 45mln NLG in witness. Thats more than 11% of supply
I have to put my Gulden also in wtness fast because i wiill not sell Gulden that i recieve from witnesseing so it supports Gulden price then also. If everyone who witnesses do not sell their Gulden that they receive from witnessing it is 20/100x100%= 20% less dumping Now my Gulden is doing nothing on Bittrex and Nocks As your friend, let me give you something to think about: If everyone that is in the blindfolded backseat of the Guldenbus is putting their money for three years into witness, they will all be captured without escape. If Rijk manages to get rid of BTC pairings (which he won't, because fortunately that's one thing he can't control), then he controls his private outlets (Nocks and Gudentrader). He then can start dumping his premine and all the sheepfollowers back in the bus are caught in panic without escape. Or what if Gulden does get a magical hype again in a year and goes up to $ 1.50, then you can only just witness it, not profit from it. Is that worth that lousy 12% yearly? Missing out on possible 4000% gains? What if by the time your witness funds finally are released by 2021 and authorities have banned all crypto's but BTC? You will jump unanimously off the cliff's like lemmings. So, as a piece of advice, think before you blindly put all your stock into the Gulden Locker.It's probably Rijks wet dream. All those lemmings totally under his control. "Kiss my foot and give me some BTC, or I'll stop the Gulden development and sell the premine!" ... "Oh no, please don't Rijk, not while all our money is locked in witness!! We'll obey, WE WILL OBEY!!!!" |
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Rank is 270 and has fallen 40 places since witnessing started, don't people want witnessing?
The Guldens that have gone into witness were already off the market before, because those who are witnessing now have been saving up especially for that. This also means they have been spending their money buying up Gulden toward the moment witnessing was possible. Now it's Holliday season and they finally can stop buying Gulden and start spending it on beer and burgers again. This means demand dropped, but supply (all be it 20% less) stays the same from miners. Do the math. Explain this from my previous post. Changed my mind, another coin called Digibyte has over 11 billion supply and the SAT price is over 500, Gulden with over $400 million supply is at 600 SAT. It's not a supply problem but a marketing problem.
Digibytes development is behind Guldens development progress but they do market digibyte very well and go to conferences and meet with business people. This is something Rijk is not doing for Gulden.
Gulden total supply is 3.6% of digibytes total supply and digibyte releases far more coins per day then Gulden.
753 every 15 seconds for digibyte. 4 337 280 coins mined per day
100 reward every 150 seconds for Gulden. 57 600 coins mined per day
This confirms supply is not a issue at all. A lot of traders in China and Korea love Digibyte, also Africa has been warmed up by their developer. I also know Jared Tate has some deals with large Chinese suppliers who use Digibyte as means of payment with western partners to avoid trade taxes. This ensures a constant demand for the coin with big capital. If Jared would take Rijk's place today, Gulden would be top 10 next year. |
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Rank is 270 and has fallen 40 places since witnessing started, don't people want witnessing?
The Guldens that have gone into witness were already off the market before, because those who are witnessing now have been saving up especially for that. This also means they have been spending their money buying up Gulden toward the moment witnessing was possible. Now it's Holliday season and they finally can stop buying Gulden and start spending it on beer and burgers again. This means demand dropped, but supply (all be it 20% less) stays the same from miners. Do the math. |
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Would someone get some tips from the digibyte community on what they do to get more users?
Shee... I wonder what kind of tips one would get... would be something like "Get on <some big bitcoin exchange>", "Martketing" and "Don't scare away whales"... neh. I'll put my money on " Create the most perfect app and don't release it before it's 100% solidly flawless, don't mind about marketing and exchanges, they are a waste of time" .... or wait ... .. . |
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Rijk believes the btc pairings are holding the price down, he might have a valid point here if you look at the buy orders on bittrex. 2.6btc... Gulden is not getting any international buy in.
I get a little mad @ these comments because if you say can we get to another exchange we hear : Rijk is not interested in the price bla bla bla Now is Bittrex holding the price down and offcourse not the lack of marketing. We are the community so we should decide but everything we want to decide it is Rijk this and Rijk that. It has to be that we, as a community decide, and not always Rijk this and Rijk that  Please don't get mad, I'm finally starting to like this friendliness  Trouble is, although Rijk's assessment, stated by Dirkeeee above, is wrong, the post of Luuk below it says enough. Rijk likes to play the leader of Gulden. He decides everything, not the community. Fine, but that also comes with responsibilities, like attending events and doing interviews like all lead developers of successful crypto projects do. He is one of the best paid developers in Cryptoland (simply add up the value of his entire fortune in BTC and Gulden he got out of it). All made possible by the community he likes to control and suppress so much. It's not that strange people are asking for him to step up and do something productive. So far all he has done is design some cool buttons and a logo for the app's. |
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This is exactly what Rijk plans to do, he stated many times in slack before he’d rather get rid of any exchange that has a BTC pairing to Gulden.
Many think this is because he wants to detach from crypto and become autonomous with only fiat pairs. Truth is, it’s his way to gain total authoritarian control. You see, with BTC detached, only Nocks and Guldentrader will be workable exchange platforms and he has major control over them, for he funded their founders heavily from the premine. He would become the chairman of the central banks of Gulden.
And you know what Rothschild once said about controlling a countries central bank right?
Rijk believes the btc pairings are holding the price down, he might have a valid point here if you look at the buy orders on bittrex. 2.6btc... Gulden is not getting any international buy in. The opposite is true though. If BTC pair is dropped, only EU residents can buy Gulden, which would mean a loss of 85% of potential markets. The reason there is only 2.6 BTC volume left on Bittrex is simply because no one cares about an almost top 300 coin. That's not going to change by losing BTC pairing, it's going to change by effectively (proper marketing) getting the word out that Gulden deserves better volume and rating. Unfortunately that is not allowed by herr Plasmann. |
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I have bitcoin supporting the prices on bittrex, I will do my best to keep the coin above 650sat, but a lot of selling pressure from traders, miners and witnesses. You can all suck my dick later for keeping the prices from falling to 500sat.
I do not know about the sucking your dick part but thx for supporting  Has the community thought about getting on Binance, a lot of traders on that exchange. That will not happend https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4769025.0Bittrex volumes have been declining since December, from rank 1 to rank 19 in volume. I personally like the exchange but because they based in the US they have to follow strict laws. As you can see the thin buy orders have kept the sat price stable, if someone dumps to 500, it's easy to pick it up above 700 sat and they lose a lot of proft. Place small bids and collect Gulden slowly. PoW miners will always be dumping at a constant flow. Rijk&Co will not be putting any effort or money into getting listed on new exchanges, they would rather put effort into getting delisted from Bittrex. If you want to get on other exchanges with Gulden, you would have to get at it yourself. This is exactly what Rijk plans to do, he stated many times in slack before he’d rather get rid of any exchange that has a BTC pairing to Gulden. Many think this is because he wants to detach from crypto and become autonomous with only fiat pairs. Truth is, it’s his way to gain total authoritarian control. You see, with BTC detached, only Nocks and Guldentrader will be workable exchange platforms and he has major control over them, for he funded their founders heavily from the premine. He would become the chairman of the central banks of Gulden. And you know what Rothschild once said about controlling a countries central bank right? |
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Great, yet another heavily moderated, positive only, thread by a Gulden zombiesupporter. Don’t you think we have enough of those by now? At least you could have shown some form of creativity by not giving it exactly the same title as this one. Edit by Ghandi Pissman
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As Rich P. pointed out multiple times he's not here to attack the price but to criticise the background of Gulden and the shady actions of hiding some informations. Kudos to the Ghandi transition btw. Rich  This man gets it! Kudos back! |
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Blunt lie. They never received €. They received BTC. And you are calculating to todays worth most likely. When they were funded BTC was worth like, €400?
True, they received over 650 BTC. Did you receive factual proof that Rijk instantly converted that to Euro's upon reception, or is that just blind assuming? Why would Rijk in his right mind switch all that BTC over to Euro's (and instantly get the banks and tax department all over him) when he could just hang on to them. He said himself he would only pay expenses for online stuff and Malcolm. Paying Malcolm would be far more easy in BTC right? Also, Malcolm was already prepared to work 30hours a week for 2 years solid for 40 BTC, so he didn't need to spend more than 50 BTC of that 650 at the time. Don't assume Rijk is this saint that is only here to make your lives better folks. He is an intrigant that only cares for himself! Well for starters: The people who funded BTC, were receiving a monthly payout in Gulden in return, is that right? Wouldn't this be the money from the premine? Yes, and that's what makes it so fishy. You see, Rijk is not interested in having Guldens, he wants BTC and Euro's. If he would have started selling Guldens from the premine to pay his bills everyone would have yelled "murder and fire". He cleverly got around that obstacle by selling "shares" for BTC with the promise to the "shareholders" to get Gulden back after a year with 10% extra. So he got to sell off the premine, without anyone ever noticing change in the premine wallets. He made sure no one was watching those wallets anymore before he needed to pay out the funds to the "shareholders". It's sort of the same system the governments use by selling bonds to bankers and getting back dollars in return. |
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Blunt lie. They never received €. They received BTC. And you are calculating to todays worth most likely. When they were funded BTC was worth like, €400?
True, they received over 650 BTC. Did you receive factual proof that Rijk instantly converted that to Euro's upon reception, or is that just blind assuming? Why would Rijk in his right mind switch all that BTC over to Euro's (and instantly get the banks and tax department all over him) when he could just hang on to them. He said himself he would only pay expenses for online stuff and Malcolm. Paying Malcolm would be far more easy in BTC right? Also, Malcolm was already prepared to work 30hours a week for 2 years solid for 40 BTC, so he didn't need to spend more than 50 BTC of that 650 at the time. Don't assume Rijk is this saint that is only here to make your lives better folks. He is an intrigant that only cares for himself! |
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but if premine is not used for development, then what is the issue? Why do people need to know where it goes?
Gulden would never have been accepted by anyone with a 170mm premine if it wasn't supposed to be spend on adoption. - That's why, at the early start in 2014, Rijk told everyone he was going to hand out 100 Gulden to every Dutch citizen. For obvious reasons that plan failed. - Then he decided it was going to be used as a fund to attract more merchants and support community efforts to bring Gulden to the masses (some call that marketing funds) - Then, when active and serious members tried to do exactly that, he started ranting the funds needed to be reserved for development only. - The only person to ever actually get paid from the premine outside Rijk himself was Roel Boer. He was Rijks "holmaat" from the start. Roel first got 1mm to setup a corporation (which only costs € 250 to setup anyway) for his Nocks startup - Later Rijk "lend out" 4.5mm more to Roel to "support the big demand during the Gulden rally". Roel made a ton in Euro's out of that in the 2016 pump. In stead of asking back the "loan" in Guldens (so the premine wouldn't be affected and the Euro's in Roels bankaccount would be used to buy back from the market), Rijk decided Roel could pay back in BTC. - Very few people know this last transaction, but it brought both Rijk and Roel a shitload of cash, all actually stolen from the premine. - After that, all leads to and signs of the premine were silently removed. There's no telling anymore what happens to those funds. So while you are all buying into Gulden with your hard earned cash and keep praising Rijk, he silently can rip off millions in Euro's and keep price development artificial low with his premine. |
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Finally, I recall Rijk once saying he will not tell what will happen with the premine on Slack.
Exactly my point! For all we know, he could be the one dropping the price all the time with it. He thinks it's his money and for him to decide. While in fact, it should belong to the community that is supporting it. |
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Finally, I recall Rijk once saying he will not tell what will happen with the premine on Slack.
Remember, the largest coins out there are premined, without the holders of it ever having to explain what they will do with it. See f.e. Charlie Lee.
The mindset of a gulden-coolaid-adict:q: Why doesn't Gulden do any marketing? Many shitcoins are doing better without the quality Gulden has. a: We don't care what other coins do, we are only interested in Gulden, because Gulden is different. q: Where is the premine, isn't this blockchain meant for openness and transparency? a: All other coins have premines etc too, why should we be any different? |
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