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101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jordan Belfort FUD or Legit Argument? on: August 29, 2018, 07:50:41 AM
but they allowed taxless Bitcoin transactions for so many years.
It was never up to governments to allow/disallow something as decentralized as bitcoin, My take on the matter is that they can never stop bitcoin, They might be able to regulate the exchange of bitcoin for fiat currencies, But they can never stop bitcoin.
102  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jordan Belfort FUD or Legit Argument? on: August 29, 2018, 07:26:38 AM
He says that bitcoin going up so rapidly doesn't make any sense and that you could use bitcoin even if the price stays at $100.
He is no wolf of anything Cheesy He is just a confused old scammer who's jealous that people can now easily do money laundering.
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are these measures robust enough to detain hack attack? on: August 29, 2018, 06:12:19 AM
What if there is someone from the inside helping the hackers out? What if one of the penetration testers which they hire to test their systems finds a security flaw and exploit it later without telling anyone?
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Many will regret that they do not invest in cryptocurrencies on: August 29, 2018, 05:52:35 AM
will regret it when the market starts to grow again by the end of the year!
They will regret it after 10/15 years from now, They don't know anything yet.
or think it is a collapse?
Not a collapse, This year is not the year for cryptocurrencies, But the next year could be, Next year after that will be the year for bitcoin because of the halving.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Continuing to touch the lows of the year, why is Ethereum so? on: August 29, 2018, 04:47:52 AM
There is a competitor for ETH, They call it NEO, I don't know what's the real difference between them but I heard that NEO is better than ETH and it produces GAS for miners, Whatever that is Cheesy Maybe the money is moving to go to NEO, Who knows, right?
Going down by %82 is too much of a fall, When do you think that ETH can recover? Maybe never.
other altcoins as well as BTC market is in collapse now
Just hodl, In the next decade bitcoin will rise.
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you had to choose between these 6 cryptocurrencys, What's your pick? on: August 29, 2018, 04:39:25 AM
I would go with ETC and TRON, They are legit and have their own markets. Maybe you should go with TRON/TRX because it has more support. Whatever you're gonna go with, Make sure that you already have some bitcoin.
107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why satoshi and his team is not working to make BTC better for mass adoption? on: August 21, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
i dont get it why the original developers are still not working to make this thing even more big....i know the lightening network is in progress though...
Scaling bitcoin for mass adoption is not easy as it should be.
These are questions that will be hard to answer. Many people say that behind bitcoin there is no one, then what about satoshi ?, he is the inventor of bitcoin but we have never seen him behind bitcoin.
Many people say that Satoshi is not a person, but an organization. And many say Satoshi is a person. He had been missing since 2009. Who would have thought that the bitcoin price would reach $20k one day. It must be a good feeling if you are a holder. Added to that statement,  everyone was looking for him, but they had failed to find him. Satoshi is still a mystery that cannot be solved. Personally, I would want to meet him by coincidence...
He envisioned bitcoin to become either big or entirely dead, Satoshi made a decentralized economy happen and left bitcoin in good hands, Even though some of the developers now are working on their own altcoins but core developers are still here and they're working to make it better. Problem with making bitcoin big is actually a real and big problem of it's own.
108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Satoshi wanted the market to grow that much? on: August 21, 2018, 06:39:16 AM
Do you think Satoshi wanted the market to grow that much? So many different companies, ICO's, different opinions etc...


Satoshi has nothing to do with so many companies and ICO's Cheesy He simply coded the bitcoin and disappeared after a while. If you see so many ICO's here, They are not related to Satoshi or this forum. People are free to have different opinions, They're free to have their own sh*tcoins, They're free to have their own ICO's whether scam or not. I can tell you one thing, though he didn't want to see so many sh*tcoins Cheesy
I think Satoshi never wanted Bitcoin to become an Investment, he/they actually invented it to make a free economy.
To make a decentralized economy is the better way of saying it, We don't have anything such as free economy, But right now we have decentralized economy thanks to people like him.
109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your Bitcoin total ownership goal? on: August 21, 2018, 06:27:32 AM
I once had more than 40 bitcoins but they were not mine, I had to give them to their real owner, I don't know how I can have any bitcoin if I don't have any fiat money?
Some people are saving a small amount of money in the Bank already and they only need to stop doing that and to re-direct that money into Bitcoin investment.
That's true but don't forget that some people have no money to invest it on anything, Their best option is to give their small amount of cash to the banks because they're the safest place for their money. A real bitcoin enthusiast would buy bitcoin and would hodl them for more than 10 years, In 10 years the price would increase so much that you'd regret not investing on bitcoin.
110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do not respond to FUD threads! on: August 21, 2018, 05:45:02 AM
FUD posts have been here since the introduction of the community but honestly, people have become more mature now to fall for them. Even though I have seen a lot of people falling for these unknowingly but those should take this experience as a lesson since they couldn't take their own responsibilities. Hopefully, they will start ignoring such threads from the future.
They are mostly sh*tposters responding to every topic they see Cheesy
Nah. I like seeing people roasting those who post nonsense FUD. They're not going anywhere soon anyway. Shitposters will always shitpost.
Like many of them are here, I don't know where they come from but as soon as a topic is opened you'd see pages of sh*tposts Cheesy
This is a very good advice. Even Bitcoin haters are on this forum trying to discourage people from doing crypto.
Ignore bitcoin haters, They gotta hate bitcoin anyways.
111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, Who really wins? on: August 16, 2018, 03:02:56 PM
People come and go, They buy and sell, At the end only the hodler wins. This is the market of cryptocurrencies, If you hodl and not panic, You'd win. Did you buy any bitcoin when price dropped to $6,000? If you did then now you are the winner because the price is no longer $6,000. Who wins 15 years from now when the price is above $50,000? The ones who are hodling now until then.
112  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: something that made me curious on: August 16, 2018, 02:39:38 PM
When A buys bitcoin for $1,000 he or she is actually paying B, When the price drops the money goes to B, If B keeps the money and not transferring it to another person then the money is with B.
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What about rest of the Cryptos? on: August 15, 2018, 09:06:20 PM
First bitcoin/ litecoin/ ETH/, You should try buying at least one bitcoin, hundred litecoin, ten ETH.
As far as btc goes, it definitely is at a cheap price and it's good to buy now.
Agreed, Now is the time to buy cheap bitcoins, Who knows what happens in September when they finally decide about the recent ETF Cheesy
Eth will definitely last a lot longer than btc; after all, btc is already 9 years old.
Disagree, ETH can never last longer than bitcoin.
114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, blockchain, technology that does miracles on: August 15, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
I agree with everything mentioned above about the use and the benefits of Bitcoin and blockchain technologies. Also I want to point out the number of jobs that are created due to this technology. Many people find their way out of unemployment and their earn an income due to this industry.
I merited the OP after reading your post, he doesn't have a paid signature as well Cheesy About the number of jobs, I don't know if cryptocurrency is a good option to pay people with, I was discussing the same subject in my last post, You could certainly use bitcoin or any other crypto as the payment to pay your employees with but with the volatility and fluctuations of prices it would be better if you could pay them with fiat and they could buy bitcoin with it.
115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You want the bear market to stop? Here are some things you can do :) on: August 15, 2018, 08:15:57 PM
If you have a product or service based online business ,accept fixed bitcoin prices with a refund.
For example,a customer buys your service or product for 50 USD worth of btc.The bitcoin price doubles after one week and he actually paid you $100.This would be really frustrating to him so you offer him to refund 50 USD.You kinda lose money,but you get a loyal customer,who is paying with btc.  
Anyway,the bear market won't stop just because a bunch of people started accepting bitcoin payments.
Only if you are an idiot you would refund the customer that extra $50, What if after a week the price drops down and the amount which you have already received becomes less than $50? I don't think your customers pay you more bitcoin just because the price went down, This is the same with business owners, Why would they refund their customers, That doesn't make any sense.
This one on your list is flawed for the reason of its legality. Most countries under their labor law when it comes to the payment of their wages the employers must always pay them with their local fiat currency,
Governments are the ones obligated to pay the salaries of their employees in local fiat currency, In private sector there is no such an obligation to pay their wages in fiat, They could pay with whatever currency of their choice, It depends on the employees if they accept bitcoin or not, I don't see why they should accept bitcoin? There is too much volatility in the price.
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, blockchain, technology that does miracles on: August 15, 2018, 08:04:07 PM
you don't need any Swiss bank to hide your money if you don't want anyone know about how much money you have.
You could achieve that even without bitcoin, You could hide your money somewhere without anyone knowing about it but that comes with the risk if someone finds the money, With bitcoin it would be easier to keep your money safe.
if you deposit
A large sum of money in a bank, they start asking many questions that no owner of Bitcoin has to answer them.
If you deposit a large sum of money in a bank they would pay you interest, No bank would ask any questions, Governments would only know how much money you have if you deposit them in banks, You are trying to make bitcoin sound like a real miracle, Which could be for so many people Cheesy I know I promised you some merits for constructive post but this is something we all know, There is nothing new, Maybe this could be useful for noobs.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin dominance ruining the market on: August 14, 2018, 03:31:44 PM
It creates markets, Don't be stupid about this, Without bitcoin and it's dominance over the whole cryptocurrencies there is no market, You don't go to exchanges asking for fiat in exchange of your altcoins, You go to exchanges asking for bitcoin.
Which one of the altcoins has fiat volume like bitcoin?
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Invest in altcoins today or maybe later? on: August 14, 2018, 03:04:36 PM
Base on what I observed,
That's what I usually do, Observe and follow the trends/Patterns.
since market turns red and I think this the best way to invest in altcoins
True, When you see red all over the place, Start investing because it will turn green again. Though you should consider bitcoin as well when you're deciding to invest.
Do you also plan to HODL coins for so long?
That's the plan I believe for the smart investors, To invest and hodl for the long term, Short term is for day traders.
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: U.S. SEC postponed ETF until end of September. Bitcoin start dump. on: August 11, 2018, 08:02:33 AM
Whatever CBNC fast money says, do the opposite and profit.

That's a good idea too, Don't buy the news but sell them with profit, I think this is exactly what they're doing, First spread the news, Second fool noobs into selling their bitcoins for cheap.
$200 Bitcoin may soon become a reality!
That would be great if we could see such prices again, I doubt it. If bitcoin price ever touches that low people would buy them all.
I think this news is not true. Hopefully SEC will approve ETF decision. we have to just keep faith on BTC and hold it. Hopefully the price of btc will rise again.
Read the news if you don't believe in this, We all know that bitcoin ETF always helps the price to pump, It doesn't matter if they approve it or not, The news is enough to pump the price. I think they know this by now that the news of ETF is good for the market and they are using such opportunities to profit from this volatility.
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are you still holding when market price falls abnormally? on: August 11, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
There's no other option to do. Holding your money is the best solution for this kind of crisis than losing some money.This is the perfect time to test your patience. If you already know how the market runs you should not be scared and just wait until the market gets recovered.I still believing that it will get recovered this year.
I had to make your whole post bold because I believe in every word in your comment above, Yes, There is no other option other than waiting and hodling, That's all we can do, We can also start mining and hodl until the price recovers. Miners have more than investors to worry about in these situations though, They have invested their money on mining equipment and can't go to an exchange and sell their miners in minutes to minimize their loss, They would have no other option other than waiting.
Bitcoin volatility can never stop, price go up and down in a small period of time, try to look and study the last years graphs.
I agree with the bold part in your post, You should always know that bitcoin volatility is a part of the system.
I believe in the coins I have in my possession,  and I know they would definitely rise even if the price falls so low. That is why I will not panic when there is fall in prices. I will hold the coins till the prices rise again because I don't want to regret selling my coins.
Wise words, If someone doesn't believe in a coin they have invested then they should never invest in the first place, This has happened so many times in bitcoin's history, All we can do is to hodl.
Right now market is much down so I think it’s time to buy some coins but not to sell. I know very hard to take any decision about holding, because market is already four times down.
But in a huge loss if you go for selling then I don’t think so that it’s a good decision & it’s better to hold & wait for a positive pump.

Yes, Time to buy is now, Remember when price goes up, It goes up fast, Next week it might go up again, You never know but it will go up, Again buy and hodl.
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