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1001  Economy / Speculation / Re: China crashing and Bitcoin goes down.... on: August 24, 2015, 03:20:32 AM
Check that link below and see what's happening right now:

http://fiatleak.com/

China is buying BTC faster than usual.
Looking like 40BTC a minute coming into to China atm w/ a tad coming from the EU and USA, tho it's night in both places. China seems to be accelerating the purchasing, however. Price has been trending up slightly at this point so with a new week starting, we shall see what direction China wants to go. Considering what their domestic market has been doing lately, it will be interesting to see what bitcoin does there in the near future.
1002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Growth Projections : Self Updating Chart [Real-time] on: August 23, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
So, this is just a rolling average w/o making note of any bubble rallies along the way. Interesting prices 20 years down the line and we will all have gray hair just battling through the ups and downs, assuming everything goes as planned.
1003  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 23, 2015, 02:57:36 AM
Stand with Rand Friday Aug. 28 in Cheyenne, Wyoming

We have some exciting news to share -- Senator Paul will be in Cheyenne next Friday!

Come learn more about his 'Fair and Flat Tax' Plan – a plan that's simple, fair and cuts taxes for every single American.

Here are the event details: (General admission is free)

Stand with Rand in Cheyenne
Friday, August 28
9:30 AM
Little America Hotel (Wyoming Room)
2800 W. Lincolnway
Cheyenne, WY 82009

We hope to see you there.

- Team Rand

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/stand-with-rand-cheyenne-wy-tickets-18192509285
1004  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 23, 2015, 02:53:52 AM
Kentucky caucus will award delegates proportionately

"Most committee members said their vote was motivated not by Paul’s candidacy, but by a desire to make Kentucky a player in presidential politics. That’s why Republicans crafted the caucus to appeal to as many of the 17 declared Republican candidates as possible. The plan calls for Kentucky’s delegates to be split proportionally rather than “winner takes all,” and candidates only need to get 5 percent of the vote to qualify for delegates."

More...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/22/kentucky-gop-oks-caucus-allows-rand-paul-president/
1005  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 23, 2015, 02:50:19 AM
Paul kicks off western swing in Alaska

ANCHORAGE, ALASKA
Republican presidential hopeful Rand Paul will attempt to steal some thunder from President Barack Obama before his visit to Alaska next week. Paul's planning two campaign appearances Tuesday in Anchorage and Fairbanks.

Paul's Alaska visit kicks off a western states tour that will also include rallies in Washington, Idaho, Wyoming and Utah.

Before his Anchorage rally, the Kentucky senator told reporters he wants to visit with "like-minded people" who don't want government intruding into their lives.

His campaign staff says the western swing also sends the message that Paul is ready to compete in all states and isn't conceding anything to front-runners in the big pack of Republican contenders.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/politics-government/article32313915.html
1006  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:46:15 AM
How To Fix A Broken Eye With Republican Presidential Candidate Rand Paul

CAP-HAITIEN, HAITI — August is a historically a month for Presidential candidates to do daring things, whether that’s eating pork on a stick, frying butter or giving helicopter rides to children.

But Kentucky Senator and presidential hopeful Rand Paul has changed the August game. While the rest of the field flipped pork chops in Iowa this week, Rand Paul could be found 2,000 miles away, flipping cataracts out of eyeballs.

More/video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgSXi9xyl0
1007  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:36:31 AM
Rand Paul coming to Seattle

Stand with Rand - Seattle, WA
Rand Paul for President
Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:30 AM (PDT)
Seattle, WA

http://www.eventbrite.com/e/stand-with-rand-seattle-wa-tickets-18208186175
1008  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:34:28 AM
Rand's team is having a contest for the best 2 designs for new bumper stickers

Winners get free bumper stickers and their stickers featured in the store.

You guys got any ideas???

https://www.randpaul.com/bumpersticker
1009  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:32:47 AM
Rand Paul leaves the campaign trail for eye surgeries in Haiti

This weekend, while the political world descends on Iowa's state fairgrounds, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) will be fixing cataracts 2000 miles away. As he's done every summer recess since joining the Senate, Paul's performing pro bono eye surgery. This year's mission, run and sponsored by the Moran Eye Center from the University of Utah, will take Paul to Haiti, the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere.

"We kind of suggested it," said Paul in an interview. "There was talk about Haiti being in great need, and it's fairly close to the United States. Haiti, unfortunately, is famous for a long history of problems."

In 2014, Paul joined the Moran center on a similar trip to Guatemala, where he reunited with old patients and broke out his rusty, Texas-tutored Spanish. He has no similar connection to Haiti.

"You want to go where the need is greatest," Paul said. "In our country, when you have cataracts, they're relatively easy to fix. The people we will treat in Haiti -- many of them will be completely blind. There's less medical access there. It's closer to the equator. There's more sun, people are outside more, fewer people even have sunglasses. So there's a lot you can do."

...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/14/rand-paul-leaves-the-campaign-trail-for-eye-surgeries-in-haiti/
1010  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:31:11 AM
Is Trump creating an anti-war window for Paul?

Lost in the nonstop spectacle that is Donald Trump is the fact that he is firmly on the record as being against the Iraq war. He brought his opposition to the war up in the recent debate and here he is (8 years ago) opposing the war and correctly predicting the chaos we see today. Now, of course, Trump is all over the place on other foreign policy issues, but this one issue is a perfect window for Rand Paul to grab the ball in the next debate and talk about blowback when it comes to arming Syrian rebels and foreign aid. Picture Senator Paul saying something like this in the upcoming debate,

Now, Mr. Trump, there is an issue that we agree on. It was a grave mistake for conservatives to support the invasion of Iraq. Destabilizing that region has led to the rise of ISIS and Christians fleeing the region–did you know that Saddam, bad as he was, allowed Christians in his government? And now we have folks on this stage who supported Obama’s effort to arm Syrian rebels. And guess what? Now many of those weapons are predictably in the hands of ISIS…(Fireworks ensue…)

http://iroots.org/2015/08/20/is-trump-creating-an-anti-war-window-for-paul/
1011  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:01:53 AM
By Rand Paul, Why I Want More Thorough Fed Audits

According to Deloitte & Touche, which conducts a conventional audit of the Fed's financial statements, the Fed spent $6.1 billion for operating expenses in 2013 and an additional $5.2 billion in interest paid to banks. The audit I would like to see would assess whether those payments are reasonable and necessary or whether they raise conflicts of interest between the Fed's role in monetary policy and its role as a bank regulator.

The Constitution is explicit in assigning responsibility for money to Congress, and it is particularly blunt when it says: "No money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law." None of the payments made by the Fed are pursuant to appropriations, but the Fed's actions facilitate the continued growth of the national debt, which is putting our economic future at risk.

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The Fed crows that it earns interest and has made great profits on its portfolio. But that's just one part of government lending to another part. There's no value creation. It's like charging interest to your spouse and counting it as family income.

The assets are bought not with real capital but with "computer-entry" fictions. The danger is that, at some point, the market will become aware that quantitative easing is an illusion and that the Fed can't cause growth or maintain calm, zero-interest markets with more computer-entry purchases.

Danger exists also in a market in which the most universal of prices, the price of money, is so manipulated as to lose its essential feedback mechanism. Danger exists in a market that is deprived of the information that freely floating interest rates provide.

More...http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-08-21/why-u-s-federal-reserve-needs-more-accountability
1012  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 03:00:05 AM
Rand Paul Explains Why Birthright Citizenship Isn't So Great in the Modern Era

In his ongoing war with Donald Trump, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has portrayed the tycoon-cum-candidate as a chameleon, a late-comer to conservative policies that Tea Party activists (like Paul) advocated for years. Among those policies: Changing interpretation of the 14th Amendment to prevent "birthright citizenship." In 2011, just days into his Senate career, Paul joined Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) on a resolution which would have clarified "that under the 14th Amendment a person born in the United States to illegal aliens does not automatically gain citizenship." Just three months into his Senate career, Vitter, Paul, and Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) wrote new legislative language on this.

That went nowhere, but Paul has not changed his mind. During an interview in Haiti this week, he said that the current reading of the 14th Amendment was problematic as long as it inspired undocumented immigrants to come to the United States and give birth.

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/20/rand-paul-explains-why-he-wants-to-stop-birthright-citizenship/
1013  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP - Rand Paul's Presidential Highlight Reel w/ his Libertarian Twist on: August 22, 2015, 02:57:36 AM
Rand Paul Backers Still Believe He Can Stand Out

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Ed Crane, co-founder and retired longtime chieftain of the Cato Institute, runs the Paul-supporting PurplePAC. With his libertarian movement background, he sees the best chances for Paul lie in being more consistently libertarian, and he says others in the campaign’s orbit are getting the same feeling. “The very fact that he was going after the NSA, skeptical of being the world’s policeman, that made him unique,” Crane says, and explains why he started off polling double digits.

Paul should have used the first GOP candidate debate, Crane says, and all his earned media, to hit home that he is “the candidate who is pro free market, anti-crony capitalism and is skeptical of the efficacy of the U.S. being the world’s policemen, and is also concerned about civil liberties” unlike his opponents who all want “boots on the ground” in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East.
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Matt Kibbe, formerly of FreedomWorks, is now working with a Paul SuperPAC called Concerned American Voters, focusing on get out the vote ground game in Iowa. He’s trying to keep his eye on the prize through the chaos of bad polling and waves of media trying to bury the Paul campaign prematurely.

“Rand should stick to his strengths,” Kibbe says, “one of which is ground game and the second of which is being the substantive, disruptive policy guy who has actually proposed radical tax reform, led on criminal justice reform and stands out from crowd on foreign policy and civil liberties, own the libertarian aspects of who he is.”

If he can do that and “stays long enough to cull the herd and get focused,” things could still work out fine when actual votes are cast, Kibbe believes.
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Bruce Fein, a former Reagan administration Justice Department lawyer and former Ron Paul advisor who helped craft a Rand Paul lawsuit against the NSA, says he is in negotiations for a big role in PurplePAC moving forward. He hopes ultimately he can help them “articulate more forcefully what Rand ought to be doing and is not doing, giving him downfield blocking” for a more radically anti-intervention and pro-civil liberties campaign.

Despite being best known as a conservative movement legal scholar, Fein was most passionate talking about foreign policy: he stressed that “where Rand should be distinguishing himself head and shoulders above all the others is that we don’t go abroad in search of monsters to destroy, you cannot take states whose political culture is in the Pleistocene age and make them democracies, and that defense should be focused on protecting the U.S. from attack, deterrence” and not “wasting money and lives needlessly. We do the equivalent of sticking a bayonet into a hornets' nest and wonder why the hornets come back.”

Someone with as impeccable a history of being tough on America’s enemies as President Eisenhower, Fein says, warned us about the military industrial complex who “pursue needless gratuitous wars for profit” and he thinks Paul can successfully call on that tradition in the GOP now.
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All agree that Trump is stealing some of the “outsider” vibe that should have been Paul’s to claim, despite being a sitting senator. Darling sees value in Trump’s radically anti-establishment position against the notion of “political families akin to royalty” like the Clintons and Bushes. Trump also shows, Darling says, that many Republican voters are very eager to oppose current Republican political leadership, an area that Paul is also well equipped to grab, standing alone on issues like NSA spying.

Fein thinks Trump’s brashness is something Paul might want to emulate, “don’t be recessive, be dominant,” don’t be afraid to use adjectives--“you can reasonably describe our foreign policy as utter idiocy, costing trillions and killing needlessly, and it has to be said that way” not disguised under such “Georgetown seminar” terms as “’conservative realism.’ Permanent war and limited government are antonyms” and Paul needs to sharply make that case.

“The upside to Trump,” says Kibbe, "is that he demonstrates the complete distrust and disgust that voters have with the standard two party duopoly and that dynamic should be Rand’s playing field. People are genuinely eager to throw everyone out, and if he’s good enough Rand can turn that into a libertarian policy mandate.”
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All see no reason to believe the Paul campaign is over; all agreed aspects of both the campaign and polling and fundraising were frustrating, especially considering the vital stakes for libertarian ideas at stake. Darling, who worked for Paul, is sure that Paul is “not the kind of guy to walk away from a fight. He stood up at the debates nose to nose with the two bullies, Christie and Trump, and anyone who thinks he will pull out, no way, they don’t know the guy. He’s not a quitter.”
...

http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/20/rand-paul-backers-still-believe-he-can-s
1014  Economy / Speculation / Re: I dare you..... 50? on: August 21, 2015, 03:02:13 AM
get back in the corral for the ugly
No more new socks out of you for the rest of the week. A moratorium has been placed on your IP and the forum ownership has taken notice. "unquote"
1015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 21, 2015, 02:49:38 AM
New rule: all newbs go on ignore on site if they post in spec. There is absolutely no point in moderating bs threads (or sending them elsewhere) if this forum allows the degen to start as many as she wants. She wants the freedom to make 500 socks and run the mill for all the onlookers and the like to view in hopes that the new dumbies/interested parties just stay away or cash out. I suggest a firing squad at this point. Smiley Not really but for real, this forum has no active leadership, period.
1016  Economy / Speculation / Re: I dare you..... 50? on: August 21, 2015, 02:39:11 AM
BITCOIN Target Point is 50-70.
SELL NOW



That's too Low , If that gets too low as much as you quoted i will surely sell some of mine and
At that point you'll be fried and won't want anything to do in this world anymore. This last downturn hasn't phased me a bit yet only reinforced my ability to stand the volatility and buy more where we are. If you haven't reached the blood in the water/buy more mindset at this point, it could be  curtains if you see another episode.

Also, GW has squandered his rep at this point, despite the alleged best of intentions, by starting this thread. Ask and him or whoever should bunk from now on.
1017  Economy / Speculation / Re: New low? on: August 21, 2015, 02:31:05 AM
Omg 65% people think the price will go down because of XT,Why do people lose faith so quickly Huh
That's actually a positive going forward in my view. People lost faith at this point by design and are down and out so they're likely the last of the weak hands if they currently have coins and are expressing sentiment. The boss players in this movement are trying to shake these out for their gain and are doing a good job at it. I move according w/ the market to some small extent but not w/ my stake that I've set aside for myself. The next real superior rally will only include the bosses and the regulars that have a stomach lining made w/ steel. If troll uno and price action affects you, you're a goner sooner rather than the reaper of riches.
1018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 20, 2015, 06:14:51 AM
Many of us hope that cheap prices remain until a later date and the later date is becoming nearer and nearer. That means the good times will come sooner so it's high time to load up on the coin. Cheers!
1019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 20, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
stop with the FUD and sloganeering ... bitcoin can scale just fine without the induced faux panic and manufactured fork missile crises circus (as much fun as the drama is).

Personally, I'm hoping the bargain price remains until about next month, September 26th. Until then, I'm very happy to see low prices. I'm saving money to place an order, soon. I'll be adding another 0.4 BTC to my wallet, maybe. Yes, I am that poor  Undecided but I'm doing fine, putting a little into bitcoin at a time.
That .4 will be a lion's share in the future, just keep that in mind. You should be very proud of that addition. Your wealth will be the envy of everyone that you know that has no idea nor concept of what the next wave up that bitcoin can offer. It's coming, so chill and reap it.
1020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this price scaring anyone ? on: August 20, 2015, 05:54:49 AM
The price drops fast but don't forget it's a two way thing. It could increase rapidly too.

When it finally increases there won't be much warning and if you aren't holding btc at that point there will be some crying bears.
Wiser words were never spoken. When the real bull market takes off after the tepid have tasted and sold, there'll be sad faces all around but many happy bulls. Bitcoin only rewards those that have taken a major blow to their usd value of this coin and then moves on up into the clouds. So, if you don't have a stomach lining made of steel in these parts, be tough or just sell to whoever will buy you out. Or, if you're a troll, just sell out and leave at this point.
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