I've been out a few days..what happened to the price?  I left it was @ 5 $/DRK, now it's a bi more than 2? Nothing really. Few big dumps with thin order book took the price down. How long do you think it will take for price to get back up? It'll take precisely as much time as it is required for the dumper to finish. If I'm reading the situation correctly, he probably has tens of thousands left. And words cannot describe how happy he is making the people still accumulating. Dump on us DRK Jesus, bless us with your bags of cheap DRK, I will pray for you  And the dumper didth dump... for forty days and forty nights, dumping didth the dumper, and they were sore afraid, those of the bag.. and for those that cannot but pumpeth... For they knew not what t'was in the heart of the one that they did so despitheth, Lo here, lo there...."LOW FOOKEN UVERYWHERE" My brethen, my brother....my sister, my mother! Where o' where hath my joy departed me? What is thou delight and why doth it betwixteth me? I shall yet praise him... I shall yet adore and sing... When he cometh whose shoes I am not worthy to wear When he set forth amongst all nations The saviour of our freedom, the Lord of plenty And when....finally...DRK is seen in all lands We shall all aRISE...with DRK in our hearts (and wallets) We shall, we shall...overcome! |
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Your armchair psychology is as unuseful as it is inaccurate.
Most people are trash. Half of them are female. How dare I say it!
Calling me names to make yourself feel cool isn't useful, either.
Look who is talking... @Renegade Man: I don`t think you will reach him in any way, neither intellectually nor emotionally. Let`s just be glad he is not representing DRK. I never expect anything when attempting to get someone like Camo to "think" beyond their own narrow view of what they perceive reality to be. But unfortunately, because of the high number of postings he's made on this thread, in many ways he does represent DRK (to the newcomer or uninvolved bystander at least) and some of what he puts out there is beyond offensive. I for one don't want to be associated with misogyny-on-steroids like that as it just takes away from what we're all trying to achieve here and is unacceptable to the majority of decent people. (and Camo, mate, before you launch into a bigoted, "you're in the 1% of people that 'get it', the rest are just fuckwits", tirade of an oh-so-clever retort, how about you just remember back to what happened at the RC4 launch and how the rest of us had to weather you going into a complete ninny meltdown the likes of which if it was someone else, you yourself would have thrown every possible contemptible tear-down and desecrating shit storm line at like "go and take your 'My heads up my arse and I don't know what I'm doing' whining to some other thread you idiot"....)  |
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************ Alert ************ Great Ambrose Evans Pritchard interview about the state of the world financial system. Ambrose recommends buying Darkcoin to protect oneself from worldwide financial collapse and Mayhem. According to Pritchard, Darkcoin is unlevered base money, whereas Fiat is highly levered credit money. Says that when the Chinese and Russians toss their US T-bond holdings onto the tinderbox that is the current treasuries market, everything will go up in a huge bonfire that explodes a rocket under the a*ss of metals, commodities and cryptocurrencies - in particular Darkcoin which will eventually see numerical parity with Bitcoin. Says that emerging markets have doubled their debt levels since the last panic of 2008 and that China deliberately created a "Bitcoin ban" scare back in December so they could shake-out large quantities of cryptocurrency to add to their "commodity lifeboat" which would serve as a massive airbag when the worldwide financial system hits the buffers. Says that that event will occur at a time of their choosing since they hold all the (US Treasury Bond) cards but they won't be doing it till they've hoovered up enough DRK @ 0.00465 BTC. Enjoy !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3tPljeiT-YGreat interview BUT where does he said this I watched the whole thing (super interesting) but i did not hear anything regarding BTC or DRK ! can you give a minute count please to look for the right quotes ? TX You didn't actually fall for it did you? It's sarcasm. The fact that you put "they've hoovered up enough DRK @ 0.00465 BTC" in there was the dead giveaway because that's exactly the price DRK was at on MP when you posted this! Ha! Very clever. |
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I think you are an intelligent man but you're also an appalling example of a frightened individual who hides behind this outward persona of a kick-arse, gun wielding, no-time-for-anyone-different-to-me, loud-mouthed, obnoxious, dick head. Your capacity for misogyny with a phrase like that is up there with the best (worst) examples to be found on the Internet. There is at least one female regularly on here (Tante), and bless her for being able to survive in here. And I'd like to see a whole lot more females because diversity is what crypto needs. But using language like that is not going to attract them or keep them here.
Your armchair psychology is as unuseful as it is inaccurate. Most people are trash. Half of them are female. How dare I say it! Calling me names to make yourself feel cool isn't useful, either. I don't hide behind anything, you just can't stand that I'm really this way and it shows. Tante is not a typical female and I have plenty of respect for her for being so. It'd serve you well to read before you spout off your bullshit attempts to step on me. You only get egg on your face. I can't care less if you want to pick a fight, it's just that it won't work... Good of the coin, female worship, collectivist superiority complex... Weaklings are all the same. I don't hide behind anything, you just can't stand that I'm really this way and it shows.
Ah, no you're wrong Camo, I actually appreciate much of what you have to say and how you're able to provide an alternative view to the mainstream. I'm not here to pick a fight with you, far from it. I don't share your views that most people are trash, but that's okay, I respect that you hold that opinion and you're able to freely express it. But writing disgusting descriptions of how you'd anally rape a woman because she's not complying to your wishes (or you're just sick of her, or whatever....) is beneath you and everyone that has to read such offensive material. That's what my main point was about. Over and out. |
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The RC4 system has inherent issues that were documented in Jira, plus it also has a systematic risk to the network (Sporking is less risky than a hard fork, but there's a risk the network forks wouldn't actually go away when the spork was turned off after a failure). These few issues combined with the fact that we've reached 80-90% payment efficiency tells me that it's not worth the risk to the network to move from the RC3 payment system.
Also, I have a separate plan I've been considering as an alternative that carries no risk and can be done at RC5's launch. Basically, I would set a minimum protocol version and boot anyone not running RC4 or later off the network. This should get us to 98%+ payments.
why 98%+ and not 100% Why Ours is not to know the reason why. What's 2% when we'll touch the sky? Stand forth here now and salute heir yonder, Forget the past, he'll bring us a wonder....! “Yes, a Jedi’s strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice.” |
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Basically, I would set a minimum protocol version and boot anyone not running RC4 or later off the network. This should get us to 98%+ payments.
Y U NO DO THIS IN APRIL? ;-) Fuck everybody on an old version. This is how you do it. Trying to be nice only leads to assholes taking advantage of it. USe the heavy hand, let there be short-term complaining and gnashing of teeth, move forward a month later and it's all fine. Sometimes the only way to adjust a bitch's attitude is to fuck her in the butt and throw her out. It's not nice, and you might not like yourself for doing it, but the shittiest of people, like you find in the cesspool that is crypto, just can't be handled any other way. Sometimes you have to do an ugly thing because it's the only thing that will work. It sucks, but a man does what is needed even if it's ugly. ALSO Once open sourced, people could modify the code to report false version numbers. It would expose these operators as deliberately black hatting it. They would be the only non-payers and would shame themselves beyond recourse. Camo, I've enjoyed most of your posts, as extreme and "out there" as they are (apart from your RC4 meltdown). But I just have to take issue with this: Sometimes the only way to adjust a bitch's attitude is to fuck her in the butt and throw her out. It's not nice, and you might not like yourself for doing it...
What we need here is intelligence, brilliance, quality and care. We need people that can articulate themselves to make a point clear, argue facts and clarify confusion. We also need to show respect to each other and to people that may not have any idea what this is all about. I think you are an intelligent man but you're also an appalling example of a frightened individual who hides behind this outward persona of a kick-arse, gun wielding, no-time-for-anyone-different-to-me, loud-mouthed, obnoxious, dick head. Your capacity for misogyny with a phrase like that is up there with the best (worst) examples to be found on the Internet. There is at least one female regularly on here (Tante), and bless her for being able to survive in here. And I'd like to see a whole lot more females because diversity is what crypto needs. But using language like that is not going to attract them or keep them here. Think about what I'm saying for the benefit of the DRK community. |
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People here go from circle jerking to panic mode very fast. I don't see the problem  . It all depends on what Evan meant by that statement. I think we can all agree that no enforcement is very very problematic. Miners do not necessarily have to be sympathetic to DRK. Additionally, no enforcement would open up an attack vector on the Masternode network. Someone who doesn't like DRK can simply mine at a 20% advantage to everyone else, while undermining the system that lets DRK function. There has to be enforcement. I suppose the advantage of the RC3 voting method is that is has been tried and tested so in that regards surely less risky to turn on? Let's wait to hear from the captain.. The RC4 system has inherent issues that were documented in Jira, plus it also has a systematic risk to the network (Sporking is less risky than a hard fork, but there's a risk the network forks wouldn't actually go away when the spork was turned off after a failure). These few issues combined with the fact that we've reached 80-90% payment efficiency tells me that it's not worth the risk to the network to move from the RC3 payment system. Also, I have a separate plan I've been considering as an alternative that carries no risk and can be done at RC5's launch. Basically, I would set a minimum protocol version and boot anyone not running RC4 or later off the network. This should get us to 98%+ payments. +1 I think everyone has to continue to remind themselves that this is beta software being worked on in a series of Release Candidates. There will be set backs as well as great leaps forward. What I like about your approach Evan is that you're demonstrating a higher overarching concern for the integrity of the network than for specific features to be focussed on with a "do or die" attitude. This is what's really important for DRK. Better that we miss out on small amounts of DRK because of this issue now than risk a major unexpected fork resulting in a big mess that will bring the whole thing to its knees. I'm sure Evan knows how important payments for MN operators are. Without the MNs being well supported, much of the architecture will come unstuck. Let's just await the turn of events before getting all too carried away. Enforcement will no doubt be part of the mix soon, but I think Evan's exercising considerable wisdom in his approach and we should just let him handle it in this most appropriate way. |
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Yep Im lost, this is the second time too A couple of tips that might help you get taken more seriously (if you're claiming to have programming skills) It's very easy to find the correct thread on Bitcointalk. Simply put the coin you're looking for and "bitcointalk" into Google. I'm not a programmer but if you follow what I've just said you get these results: "btcs bitcointalk" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318253.0"btcd bitcointalk" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684090.0(and also, prior to you editing your post, you asked about "weather" something was available. weather = the phenomena in the atmosphere, wind, rain, clouds, etc "I hope the weather is good for the baseball game" whether = the potential or alternative state of two or more things "The baseball game will be played whether it is raining or not") |
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Hi as a programmer how can I help where should I start?
Does BTCS have any IRC channels?
You are seriously lost. This is DRK, nothing to do with BTCS or BTCD. |
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Hi as a programmer how can I help where should I start?
I think you're completely in the wrong thread. You must have edited your post because prior to me hitting reply you said "does BTCD have an IRC?" This thread has absolutely nothing to do with BTCD. This is the DarkCoin thread and BTCD is about as far removed from what DarkCoin is any altcoin can possibly be. Also, in your previous post you mentioned writing code that could "spam FB". Again, I think you're in the wrong place. That's absolutely not what we do here. Search Bitcointalk on BTCD to go to the place you're looking for. |
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interesting...its very quite in here! Sort of the eye of the hurricane kind of thing going on.....peaceful!
Quite what Richard? Oh, quite quiet! (/sarcastic) Yes it is. Just what will happen next, we know not, we are but waiting for you to invite us all to a DRK wine tasting to celebrate.... |
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I don't know how to technically explain it, but if I were doing this... i'd go for the TOR type network and also include hosting/domain stuff somehow into the mix.... then I would allow general usage to be free (i.e. allow anyone to browse the public web with it, but have the fees for hosting/dns stuff). You'd get a lot more people learning about DRK by offering the basic service for free and let them upgrade to more access if they like it or are interested in getting into the DRK net)...
Sir Crouton, we have a winning idea coming through the DRKness +1 Yes, organizer's using some good lateral thinking there (probably why he or she is an organizer ). |
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Would it be possible to offer an anti ddos network for business?
in other words, the to be reached ip is hidden by DRK TOR therefore the DDOS attack would only be succesful if all masternodes would be attacked. Companies would pay for this service thats for sure.
Kind of powerpumped anti ddos network
That's potentially an astoundingly good use for the MN network! I don't know enough about DDOS attacks (and what the latest techniques/vulnerabilities are) to know whether there's a real opportunity with this. But as thelonecrouton said a few posts above, if it's effectively offering distributed hosting this could be a game changer and a major reason for DRK to become more valuable (and will need serious dev resources as he's pointed out in a subsequent post). |
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This is all terribly exciting. Seeing all the ideas and suggestions flowing is great, but it's also like watching a room full of 1st year university marketing students jointly working on some sort of project their lecturer has set them. I think before we get too carried away with all the hoopla about what this TOR-like thing is going to earn in DRK/$ for MN operators and what we'll call it, I'd like to get far more detail on how it will work. So far from Evan we have: Utilizing the Masternode network - DarkTor
One of the future goals is to turn the masternode network into a decentralized business for masternode operators. To do this we’ll add features that improve the privacy of end users and compete with centralized businesses. Our first endeavor into this is to make a completely private tor network within Darkcoin.
The Darkcoin network will begin to offer anonymous internet access via the masternode network. As a user, all you’ll have to do is pay a fee for 24 hours of access. This fee will be paid to a masternode in much the same way the masternode fees are paid, using a deterministic algorithm for distributing the payments evenly across the whole network.
There’s a few benefits to running a private tor network through Darkcoin.
Sybil resistant - Due to the cost of obtaining masternodes, it will be very difficult for any one person to view all traffic.
Anonymous Payments - Users can pay anonymously for the service
Private Network - Our tor network will be internal to darkcoin only. All traffic will be paid traffic, so the cost of running the service should be profitable for the masternode operators.
Faster than tor - Tor has historically been very slow. This will be a lean version, that has much higher throughput.
- What I'd like to know is how will it be usable? (By that I mean, will you need a special browser that connects to the MN network? Or will you just use your normal browser with it pointing at some sort of "DarkTor" proxy client installed on your system?) - If you do use your current browser, what are the ramifications of that same browser then connecting to websites directly without going through DarkTor? (i.e. cookies, history, cache, etc) - If you need to use a special browser, what are the development and maintenance ramifications of this? - Will you be able to browse to any current website anonymously and will everything work like it currently does? - Is it likely there will be websites that sit exclusively within the DarkTor network? What special advantages might they have? What would be a high level domain associated with this and what are the technical ramifications of this? - What about bandwidth issues if the user wants to stream video, share desktops, etc? - What about protocols other than HTTP(S)? Will we open it to all sorts of things or restrict it? And with regards to the name, I have a few ideas too, but firstly: - Who will use this service? - What would we expect the demographic to be (which is important in terms of pricing)? - Who is offering the service? (obviously, it's the collective MNs, but is that "DarkCoin") - If it's "DarkCoin" offering the service, what are the risks to the value of DRK if the service is compromised? - Is it likely we'll travel along unscathed or will DarkTor likely become a magnet for guv hackers everywhere to break or takedown? - Will the risk we're exposing DRK to via this service be worth it? - Will DarkTor (or whatever it will be called) being associated with DarkCoin impact the wider adoption and take-up of DRK as a payment option? Can you see where I'm going with this? A whole lot more discussion is needed on what this is, how it meshes (DarkMesh?) into the rest of DarkCoin's plan and strategy and what the long term potential is. There needs to be a lot more clarity and then I think a name will be chosen that's likely to be more accurate for the service's ultimate goal. It's very easy to get all hyped up early on, pick a name that ultimately doesn't make sense (anyone remember Apple's Lisa?). Iris sounds good and all but when you look at the definition of iris (from wikipedia)... "The iris (plural: irides or irises) is a thin, circular structure in the eye, responsible for controlling the diameter and size of the pupil and thus the amount of light reaching the retina"
...that concept "the amount of light reaching the retina" isn't really a metaphor for what this service is about. We're not "restricting the amount of light reaching the retina" I would think, we're opening everything up but making the light invisible (DarkInvis perhaps?) Anyway, some things to consider. |
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Come on TsuyokuNaritai, you know better than that. Why waste your time ?
I'm just pointing it out for those still engaging him as if he's some kind of reformed ex-spamtroll trying his best to make a contribution to non-spamtrollish society. You won't win that war, neither will anyone making fun of him/riling him/playing psychiatrist or any response whatsover. The only way to win is ignore, period. Only if everyone does. There comes a point when you see lots of people falling for an con that you have to point it out. That is why I keep bringing that logic again and again, but then someone violates it and cites a reason for doing it. I even posted 2 pages ago that I clearly saw everyone was doing an awesome job of identifying the troll and not falling for it Very impressive job in identifying the trolling MN holding faggot by the community. My faith is restored and I must say very impressive job indeed. Today the trolling faggot was accepting compliments by a couple of XMR bag holders in the poloniex trollbox about how excellent he had trolled darkcoin in the past.
Mr. bigrcanada, you could also just learn how to completely ignore the troll. You keep quoting humorous responses and make the thread that much harder to sift through. It never helps.
In due time he will be doxxed, that much I can assure you.
Slapper, anyone with eve the most basic "dealing with bullying 101" knowledge knows responding to trolls only eggs them on. Anyone, who's been to school (which I'd guess is EVERYONE who's likely to be on here) knows what it's like to have someone attacking or teasing as it's probably happened to all of us at some stage. By not responding, yes you douse it and pretty soon they give up to go find someone else to annoy. But, people come on to this thread without going through "Slapper's pre-briefing on how to handle trolling within the DRK thread" course and with someone like shojayxt, he occasionally makes some valid points and occasionally looks like he's half okay. So people that haven't been through the history up to this point sometimes respond and some of us who're aware of his techniques need to help people realise what's going on and correct misinformation. Ignoring him, and others with that sort of disruptive intent, is very important but correcting misinformation and slander is too. Telling people "and fuck you..." for writing something designed to get him to think, isn't a way to engender harmony within the thread. I stand by my post. It was best written here an not in a PM. If you don't like that, too bad. |
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And FUCK YOU too for quoting the troll. You want to be a psychiatrist, go fuck with him in PM. Leave the thread alone. Read my post again before knee jerking yourself into a frenzy. I DID NOT quote him. |
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Would be great to eventually brand and name it something that promotes these aspects of its use. I love Tor and its capabilities, just hate the word Tor as it has been smeared in the mainstream. But makes sense to call it DarkTor in the present stages as it easily explains what it is.
Could call it DarkMesh or something similar so its not "Tor" Don't call it Dark or Tor, or any combination. Call it Web 3.0. Average Joe and Jane will simply think there is a new internet being created. One where you are not tracked to death by those wanting to sell you something based on what you have been browsing recently or what you were just discussing on Facebook or Twitter. If you give it a generic label resembling something people already trust, you beat the name association game of, Tor = bad, Dark = bad, DarkTor = very fucking bad. Bitcoin has had to fight a similar problem. Its taking years and years to shake off the negative images that the media were able to cast on it. Web 3.0 has a ready made narrative: we are pissed off with all the shit ads being targeted at us by internet giants needing to show quarter by quarter revenue growth. We think the internet is free, but its not. We pay by allowing others access to our identities, and we don't even ask them to pay for it. If you maintain this status, you will lose your identity because you can become a media campaign and herded to buy things at given times of they day, week, month or year. Stop being sheep. Pay up $0.10 in DRK to use Web 3.0. Brilliant coins101! I think you've really nailed the essence of what DRK's all about and potentially how it could be altered to remove the risk of all this hard work and good intention being smeared by a public perception it's all about facilitating criminals to cover their tracks and terrorism to be an even greater threat. More discussion required....I'll be getting onto that over at Darkcointalk soon. |
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More aggressive challenges. I have a serious problem. I don't know how to engage in a decent way. Somewhere way way back I decided that attacking people that threaten my ego's little view of who I am is the best course of action (even though deep down I know this is wrong). Instead of working in with a team of people, I throw mud and shit at them, but I don't go away and find other people I can respect and demonstrate care for, I just keep coming back again and again to do more damage and throw my weight around. Oh wretch that I am! Geez I'm sick...
Shojayxt, you're one of those destructive people that's a "bad apple". Anyone that's ever managed a team or lead a group knows that, while you may occasionally offer some input that's useful (even worthy of consideration) your overarching modus operandi is one of destabilisation, disruption and self aggrandizement. If you were in a team I was managing, I would remove you because you're not adding here, you're just taking away. And, although you are obviously intelligent and have something of value to offer, your intense need to put everyone else down and make out how smart you are is a thorn in the side of this community that does no one any good. That you have been putting shit on DRK and this community for months but now you've set up an MN is testament to your addiction to coming here and being an arsehole. I expect you wake up each morning not feeling very good about what you do....but you just can't stop doing it. Get help my friend. There's way too much good in the world passing you by to spend your days being like this. |
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