~~~ #triggered ~~~
I'm leaving your childish rant because obviously you put a lot of effort into it. In analyzing the corruption and nepotism ruining Bitcointalk, I assure you I did not intend to belittle any of your heroes here. Most people wouldn't be motivated enough to spend as much time and labor on an internet forum as users like LoyceV and suchmoon are putting in, it's really impressive sweat work on their part, and no doubt some of what they do brings a value added to this forum. Regardless, it does not exonerate them from trying to socially engineer the leading crypto website and bring about nepotist outcomes where their mediocre inner circle corners all the lucrative bounties; or perhaps, a company who has authority over even theymos is instructing them to keep the trolls and bad actors on the payroll and with artificially clean trust sheets on BTT, defying all reason and every sane observer's sensibilities... It's called the duality of human nature, a tremendous range of virtues and vices can coexist within the same individual  , although many would agree that the vices have been far outweighing the virtues for a long time now; hence the forum's steady decline in all metrics over the recent years... |
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~~~ whitewashing, straw men & black propaganda galore as is typical from this NPC user... ~~~
Beyler bu troll'e cevap vermeye değmez aslında, biri emir vermiş git yolsuzlukları savun diye o da maaşlı eleman olarak görevini yapıyor, @bonesjonesreturns aşağıda cevapların nirvanasını yapıştırmış zaten bu düzenbazların avukatına, oradan takip edebilirsiniz mevzuların aslını... ps. just the fact that genuinely insightful users like bonesjonesreturns have to hide behind alternate aliases to speak the truth on this forum, while terrorists like ~lauda manage to sustain artificially net positive DT trust sheets, is all the evidence you need that this forum is broken, Meanwhile more and more people seem to believe that Blockstream just wants to keep it that way in an attempt to silence all crypto competition with its paid trolls that have taken over Bitcointalk
[Çeviri]: Giderek artan sayıda kripto sever forumun bu geldiği rezil noktanın Blockstream şirketinin kripto dünyasındaki rakiplerini susturmak için maaşlı trollerini forumda çalıştırmasından kaynaklandığını düşünüyor, bilgilerinize. son zamanların en büyük gazetecilik başarılarından biri kabul edilebilecek şu video da bence konuyla ilgili bazı gerçeklere ışık tutuyor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcvX0P1b5g&t=2s
Many of your points are clearly bogus.
There is observably a merit cycling self appointing DT that colluded to maintain grasp over lucrative rev streams here
Please stop pretending it is not there for anyone to observe
Or do you expect us to believe these peoples top merit fans and recipients are all stacked with each other, they all include each other on DT and mostly exclude the same group and most are on the highest paying sig campaigns.
I don't think there is a racial motive for excluding Turkish members but simply the current colluding group fear the cohesion of the turkish community.
There is no good reason to exclude some of the better turkish posters. I certainly would not accept they are less trustworthy than the likes of marlboroza , thepharmacist or any other of these willful scammer supporters.
There are some very undeniably greedy members on chipmixer.
I would suggest doing more research you are only new here young grasshopper.
Never seek to label important truths as drama. That is untrustworthy.
Never seek to lecture on greed specifically if you wear a gambling sig.
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Tebrikler ekiller hocam, Muğla müthiş bir yer.
Türkiye aslında bana göre bütün Avrupa'nın en güzel kıyılarına sahip, hala bakir yerler de var, internet altyapı sorununu çözseler uzaktan çalışmak için ideal ortam...
Güneydoğu Asya'nın kıytırık 3. dünya ülkelerinde bile 50 MB / s + fln artık standart hale gelmiş çoğu yerde, bizde de umarım bir altyapı düzenlemesi gelirse, "digital nomad" yaşam tarzı için ilk tercih olabilir Ege / Akdeniz sahilleri.
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Ben son yazdığım post ile korkak mi oldum? Trust listemi degistirmeyecegim ya da geri bildirim yazılarımı. Bunu yapacak olsam ilk başta yapardım. Zaten şu ana kadar 3 tane bildirim bıraktım. (Diğerini niye sildigimi biliyorsunuzdur. ) Tatava yapmayıp eklesinler distrusta beni. Bunu geçen sene dedim. Her seferinde biy biy kafa sikmeleri yeter lan. Bir kere sık gec. Yok nicki ruscaymis, slavik AMK onu bile anlamıyor, yok nedir almış vermiş, yok dt de manipülasyon yapmış. Lan yeter AMK bas distrusti kes!
Sizleri uzduysem affola. Satoshinin de AMK!
estağfurullah, global mafyaya 0 taviz vermiş 4-5 üye sayabilirim kafadan, bunlardan biri de sensin bro, bu arada trendcoin'in İngilizcesi iyi olsaydı Meta'yı felce uğratırdı ama dehasını konuşturamıyor henüz küresel ortamda... |
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kıskıskıskıs  3 gün birlik 1 gün ikilik hesabi topluluğu bölmek doğru hareketler diil. ama buradaki koca koca insanlara neyin dogru neyin yanlis oldugunu anlatmak da benim isim diil. hem dost hem de gece 12den sonra balkabagi olunmaz stabil ilerlemek lazim bu işlerde. önce şu globaldeki sorunu halledelim sonra istediin kadar takilirsin simdilik ana soruna odaklanmak lazim. Gece 12'den sonra kurt adama dönüşüyorum "korkak Türk" avına çıkıyorum  , ama asıl hedef tabiiki DT'deki küresel mafya bozuntuları hayatımda gördüğüm en adi dolandırıcılardan bazılarını DT1'de buldum bu forumda onu da belirtelim. |
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Tom Bombadil hadisesini izah edelim, sana da gelicez merak etme , DragonDance manifesto gibi mesaj atmış senin lehine hala onu tartışıyorsun... |
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Hangi müthiş detay ve bu neyi ispatlıyor anlamadım. Wolwoo da 35.haftadan sonra uzun süre eklemiş onu. Aynı şekilde sende de ekliymiş uzun süre. Farklı kişilerde var. Bütün bunlar hangi müthiş şeyi ispatlar. Bende ekledim ama bugün kaldırmaya karar verdim. Bir yandan onlar pozitifi sorguluyor, bir yandan siz trustı sorguluyorsunuz. http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/1003533.htmlhttp://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/982288.htmlFaydalı içeriklerinden dolayı sana destek olmak istedim. Başka zaman daha uygun şekilde bırakmayı düşünüyorum. Ona ait çeviri konusunu referans göstermem hataydı. Topluluğa faydalı pozitifler vermeye devam etmek istiyorum. Trust listemi de genişleteceğimi söylemiştim. Tom Bombadil ve diğer arkadaş, 1 yıldır "listeni genişleteceğini söylüyorsun", ne listeymiş arkadaş, sen daha fazla milleti kandırmadan ben neden listende 7 kişi olduğunu söyliim, neden biliyor musunuz, kazara 10 eklerse oylamalara girip global forumdaki abilerinin dikkatini çekmek istemiyor , bu tom bombadil'i adeta itlaf ettiler global ortamda, yalan yanlış ithamlarla yaftaladılar, sonra kovdular, yaklaşık 1500 USD / aylık bir zarar verdiler bu arkadaşa, gel gelelim tom bombadil hala globaldeki abilerinden emir geldiği zaman trust geri bildirimlerini silmeyi biliyor, bazı siyaset bilimcilerin dediği gibi zaten "bu abiler bitirdi Türkiye Cumhuriyeti"'ni... kıssa'dan hisse beyler, Tom Bombadil gibi olmayın, bana soracak olursanız cesur olun, "ben maaşıma bakarım, yolsuz düzenden gelen emirlere de uyarım" diyen arkadaşlar teker teker elimine oldular... |
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Üstad Tom bundan şikayet ediyor, bu mesaja bakın, aylar önce beni eklemiş Tom, sonra beni silmiş Loycev'i eklemiş, Loycev de haftalar önceki muhabbeti delil gösterip Tom'a sallamış.
Valla benim yarım yamalak translate ingilizceme dayanarak anladığım. Tom'un senin listene dahil edildiğini ve yine tom'un vispilio'ya geri bildirim bıraktığına dikkat çekiyor. Verdiği linkte de zaten senin tom'u eklediğini gösteren bir detay var. haa evet ben güvenmişim Tom'a doğru  ama şu anda Tom, Loycev'e güveniyor önemli olan da bu! "işte güvendiğiniz tarafsız adamlar bunlar" demek yanlış olmaz ayrıca ben Tom için gidip küfrtmedim herife, beni her mesajlarında ekliyorlar, Gazeta, Jollybelly hepisi ...... valla burada wolwoo müthiş bir ayrıntıyı yakalamış helal olsun, tom bombadil kardeş ve o hesapla yakın ilişkisi olan asıl arkadaş , ya birader önce bari kendi listenizi 10 kişiye tamamlayın ondan sonra istiyorsanız gelin burada topluluğa tavsiye verin, inanılır gibi diil... |
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Şuan mesela seni diyelim trust liste aldım ben aldım diye sana ek bir puan kazandırıyor muyum
şu koşulların tamamını sağladığın takdirde evet:
* En azından member seviyesinde olmak
* Son 3 günde online olmak
* Trust Listenizin en azından 10 kullanıcı içermesi (~ girdiler hariç)
* Seçimlerde ban ya da blacklist yememiş olmanız
* Son 30 gün içinde en az 1 post atmış olmanız
* En az 10 merite sahip 10 kullanıcının sizi kendi Trust listelerine almış olmaları
* Başkalarından en az 250 merit almış 2 kullanıcının sizi kendi Trust listelerine eklemiş olmaları
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Kavga etmeyin arkadaşlar şu forumda kaç kişi var zaten biz de birbirimize girersek ne olur
ona bakma bro o ~mindrust denilen üyenin psikolojisi çökmüş durumda, hem yabancılar hem Türkler yıllardır devamlı azarladığı için bunalıma girmiş, biraz merhametle yaklaşıp rehabilitasyona sokmak lazım böyle yitik tipleri, geçmiş olsun diyip geçiyoruz, senin soruna gelelim: ilerde ilk mesajda belirtilen koşulları tamamlayıp DT1 oylamalarına girebilirsen, listendeki isimlere ve geri bildirim bıraktığın kişilere katkın olur elbette. |
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This was relevant in the previous thread from which that quote arose. Context is important here.
With the gravitas focused on the lack of Turkish members in the CM campaign, one might imagine possible reasons. If it is possible for a member of non-Turk origin to post higher-quality content or perhaps content more stringent to CM's requirements/desires, then it is possible for them to be accepted over a Turkish member. You can even replace "Turk/Turkish" with any categorization you want. Hence, how is it so difficult to believe that in some specific moment in time, members of an identifiable group that are participating in the ChipMixer campaign equal zero? It's much stranger to deny the possibility of rejection and jump to outlandish conclusions. Before any accusations that involve my own account with some "gang" I would recommend looking at the lack of activity I've had over the past few months. I disagree with many DT members and have countered a variety of negative ratings from familiar names. I doubt that many people would think that I'm solely here for the campaign funds.  Fair questions, and if you've been absent from the forum for a couple of months you might have missed the reasons why Turkish section and Turkic audiences are a critically strategic zone for any crypto business, especially owing to concentrated obfuscation efforts by the DT salary clique . If you just brush up on some of the independent surveys mentioned in that previous thread you were quoting along with some of my previous comments (or even intra-forum statistics like this one), you will find the answers to most of your questions regarding Turkish markets. In fact I'll take it a step further, if you ask the ChipMixer organization today: "Is it a priority for you to be visible to audiences in and around the Turkish sphere of influence?", I can bet you an unlimited amount of BTC the answer will be a resounding "YES", and they will promptly do so, if @theymos and @Darkstar_ can let this forum take a breath of fresh air outside the yoke of the band of criminals that are hell bent on ruining this place with their nepotism and little mafia games... |
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don't feed the troll
excellent advice, ~mindrust anavatanın önünde diz çöküp toprağı öpüp af diledikten sonra bu ülke yine seni affeder koçum, tırsma bu kadar, öz benliğine kavuş , çok daha iyi hissediceksin garanti veriyorum |
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What if Candidate B does tremendously better work ? and what if he also will not act like such a rebel if your company can show just a little bit of a moral and meritocratic side every once in a while ?
~~~ total hollow non sequitur as is typical of this diversionary user ~~~ oh ok, American economy should be thankful you are not running any companies then |
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...
Let's say I'm hiring for a position in my company. I have two candidates.
Candidate A will take on board any suggestions or recommendations, not cause any drama or conflict, and generally just get their head down and get the work done.
Candidate B perceives every suggestion or recommendation as a personal attack, causes unending unnecessary drama and conflict, continually brings up their race/gender/sexual orientation even when no one else has, emails HR constantly, but will also get the work done.
I am picking candidate A 10 times out of 10. Even if candidate B does slightly or even fairly better work, I'm still picking candidate A because candidate B is going to soak up so much of my time, decrease my output, and decrease the output of my other team members. It's a no brainer.
What if Candidate B does tremendously better work ? and what if he also will not act like such a rebel if your company can show just a little bit of a moral and meritocratic side every once in a while ? What do you think o_e_l_e_o, and @Darkstar_, and @theymos, is it worth it to do the right thing at least sometimes to be able to attract geniuses to your organization, instead of (or at least in addition to) a hive army of mediocre "yes men" and "cronies" ?.. The scenario is as true for Chipmixer as it is for Bitcointalk in general. |
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Why are we on this issue of national quotas again? It's more discriminatory to categorize users based on some identifiable trait to satisfy your statistical hubris.
(Vispilio's warning: hideous strawman follows)
Do you know how horrible it would be if ChipMixer implemented a quota: "looks like we don't have enough Turkish people on the signature - time to add some more!"
That isn't equality. That's pity.
 No one except some complicit "salaried employees" of the Chipmixer bounty who like to preserve their lazy milking of forum driven resources are mentioning racism, nationalism or persecution of any kind. For all the independent and intellectual observers checking this thread out, please read the arguments carefully, and identify the pattern of laughable diversionary tactics where the nepotist DT clique will trip over themselves time and again to derail the definitively proven cases of corruption and defamation surrounding Chipmixer selections. Already 2 impostor threads going on in the vain hopes of diluting the irrefutable facts presented here, it's embarrassing to see how low some veteran members who were previously thought be respectable pillars of the community can sink to stay on the Chipmixer payroll... |
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I came to this thread because i saw a post of yours in the Chipmixer campaign where your rhetoric question to Darkstar seems to expect a result that Darkstar would question himself, "Ohh really, they think I am a timid guy whose strings they can pull..OHH NO NO NO?" Its never a good idea to portray things as some emotional drama about identity, ego and what not. Then i read your topic history and it seems you are always making it about religion, identity, country. Even in this topic, which could otherwise have been a well-intentioned awareness post to make local members aware of Trust features, you are unable to suppress that hate about "Salaried employees", signature campaigns etc etc. From your language skills, you seem like a well read person. Yet, on seeing the way you interacted with mindrust about him praying to "pagan" gods, you seem like someone who has no control on his emotions. You keep attempting to incite the Turkish community to do things in a herd mentality rather than on basis of individual judgement and ethics. To all the Turkish members, I would just request that please do not see the forum as some sort of war ground that you have to capture or battle to get into DT1. Just work in your individual capacities and people will rally around your "Work". People rallied around Satoshi's actual work for a common, better tomorrow. Use your trust list in the most natural ways based on what you yourself feel and not based on what anybody else tells you to. There is no need to make this about nationalism. As someone explained earlier, we are all netizens here and equal people who judge each other based on what we say or how we deal. Simple as that. Not on the basis of who is Turkish or who is on DT1/ DT2. Good luck to you all. Interesting interpretation of recent events, thanks for reaching out with some original commentary. You question my motives, and the tone of speech that I use, fair enough, all this can be criticized; as a counter point, however, I have to question your judgement. Especially when you remain silent when there are mathematically proven criminal acts going on in the forum in broad daylight, and a hateful psychopathic individual spewing her shit on a daily basis for years now, and you also witness almost 70-80% of the DT clique actively work to whitewash all of it to sustain their criminal friend's parasitic existence on the leading crypto forum. Now you, as a rational man who is watching all this, tell me please, is it fair for you to follow suit, stuck in the complacency of a hive mind and herd mentality, as you so eloquently put, and remain silent to all this glaring injustice originating from provably evil and toxic actors ?.. I would expect a man of your intellect to at least come to that thread you are quoting and be brave and individualistic enough to speak out on universal virtues like truth and justice. Instead you come to the local forums, and criticize me because one time I said in a roundabout way I might "chastise" a Turkish traitor in real life. On the one hand you have a guy implicitly joking that a self hating ex-Turk might get (psychologically) roughed up in real life, on the other hand you have a terrorist (and her many alt accounts, and her enabling handlers, which by the way should be the topic of an entirely different thread) who has caused hundreds of thousands of dollars of real financial damage to multiple innocent individuals that have brought exponentially higher value added to crypto and this community than she has, and they are all gone now... You decide now where you should direct your advice and criticisms... All the Best |
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Bu meselenin çözümlenmesine sevindim, bu arada muslol'un finali peloso'nun lauda'ya ve kampanyaya taktığı kapakla yapması çok şık bir hareket olmuş, şu aşağıdaki söz yılın kapağı olmuş bu konular hakkında peloso büyük adam vesselam, direkt Türk vatandaşlığı önermek lazım memlekete katkılarından dolayı, @Peloso, we love you bro  |
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For future reference: 2 more pieces of evidence to how successful defamation activities can be in costing even selected participants thousands of dollars / month in earnings. ~lauda's and ~jollygood's behavior are the equivalent of financially scamming someone, their libel robs innocent people of most signature earnings, and these heinous individuals should belong in every sane user's black list; in fact there is no other respectable website or organization that I know of where administrative staff would allow criminal scum like these to get whitewashed and protected by certain bad nepotist actors that have entrenched themselves in the community... ps. they will now create idle banter back and forth in the impostor thread to constantly keep it on top to continue trolling the forum with their black propaganda...Considering that normally 1 / 10th of what they are doing would merit a ban on this forum, it's reasonable to assume someone or an organization with decisive authority on Bitcointalk is employing these useful trolls for their own dark agendas; needless to say all this subtracts greatly from the integrity and prestige of Bitcointalk, and crypto space in general.  I was informed by a PM from the bounty manager of the project that I signed today. @Lauda left negative feedback on my profile.
The reason for this is that I support in a title opened by @ Vispilio. In the meantime, let me tell you briefly about @ Vispilio with a summary. He is someone who is the most reliable and commissioned merit source in the Turkish community because his ideas are given importance by the forum administrators. In other words, @Lauda has left my profile untrustworthy because I support not only an ordinary person but also someone who is appreciated by the forum administration!
If it was unsafe to say that someone could succeed in the forum, I'm sure we should have painted the vast majority of the forum in red. Moreover, I would bet that @ Lauda said it was his own gang. I don't care about Lauda's ideas either. I also know that there are enough people in the forum who do not like him. Because if anyone knows what other benefits Lauda has to the forum other than planting hate seeds, please tell us!
Another question is for our bounty manager who tells me to solve this problem in order not to disqualify me from the bounty I am in. How accurate is my disqualification from bounty as someone who doesn't even have DT1 or DT2 leaves negative feedback on my profile?
Finally, I have not acted in a "gang" in the forum until today! @Vispilio only reported that I support because it makes a difference with its information in the forum and has the capacity to accomplish the job. I don't regret this. I still think that he can do the job given to him. I would not hesitate to support them if they were candidates for such a job with other very valuable friends like him, who cannot count their name one by one!
BTW, I looked at all members of 777Coin signature profiles. 11 other members has a negative feedback in their profile also!
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Beyler bugünkü konularla ilgili bir not ~jollygood gerzeğinin threadine bana sorarsanız pek yazmayın, tamamen ilgiyi dağıtmak için oluşturulmuş bir tuzak, bizim reputation'daki konuya isterseniz bazen güncellemek adına yazabilirsiniz, orada da sizden ricam Türkçülük, ırkçılık, ulusalcılık gibi konulara hiç girmeyin, onu da Signature ve Meta'daki yolsuzlukları maskelemek için anında koz olarak kullanmaya çalışıyorlar... aşağıda alıntıladığım mesajda özetlemeye çalıştığım gibi, herkese selamlar: I don't think DarkStar_ is influenced by anything except his own judgement, nor do I think he is (or is going to start) discriminating against any particular group of members, like the Turkish community. There are some very vocal and belligerent members in that community, but they don't represent the whole Turkish section by any means. And Jesus, DarkStar_ has rejected applicants with near-perfect English who consistently make constructive posts and who'd usually be snapped up by another sig campaign in a heartbeat. He's got high standards, but it doesn't necessarily follow that he's rejecting certain members because of prejudice. However, Darkstar_ can make a gesture by taking at least one Turkish member.
Why should there even be one "token" member? I think DarkStar_ ought to continue to accept only the best posters (and the most reputable ones) and not give in to this absurd nationalistic crusade you've been promulgating. This thread has absolute 0 to do with "discrimination against Turks", "nationalist zeal" or any other such bullshit that you keep bringing to threads of this nature in an all too familiar attempt to derail it yet again to mask your friends' heinous activities. @wolwoo, please don't play into the hands of the mafia by giving them a chance to divert from mathematically proven corruption in Signature campaign selections. I'll spell it out for you Pharmacist so you don't have to regurgitate the same straw man fallacy for the thousandth time: There is a DT clique, which you seem to be oblivious to, acting in coordinated attacks to insure that a certain group of members keep artificially clean Trust sheets, so they get all the top positions in BTC signature bounties in this forum, while they also conspire with fake character assassination jobs, using useful idiots (and many alt accounts to upvote them) like ~jollygood and ~lauda to defame otherwise sound and better qualified members, who then keep getting rejected from these campaigns based on the false grounds they created. Thus an army of mediocrity milks this forum for salaries in the form of "signature campaigns", while most of the much better qualified, meritocratic and innocent members have gotten alienated and abandoned the forum, disillusioned by the hypocrisy and feigned ignorance exhibited by members such as you and LoyceV, who seem to spend every day on Meta and Reputation boards, but mysteriously can't bring yourselves to state the blatantly obvious and take the side of truth and justice even one time... Why should @theymos and @Darkstar_ get involved ? To save this forum from drowning in the cesspools of nepotism, hypocrisy and double standards, which have become the order of the day in Default Trust and Signature Campaign activities thanks to complicit members like you... |
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I don't think DarkStar_ is influenced by anything except his own judgement, nor do I think he is (or is going to start) discriminating against any particular group of members, like the Turkish community. There are some very vocal and belligerent members in that community, but they don't represent the whole Turkish section by any means. And Jesus, DarkStar_ has rejected applicants with near-perfect English who consistently make constructive posts and who'd usually be snapped up by another sig campaign in a heartbeat. He's got high standards, but it doesn't necessarily follow that he's rejecting certain members because of prejudice. However, Darkstar_ can make a gesture by taking at least one Turkish member.
Why should there even be one "token" member? I think DarkStar_ ought to continue to accept only the best posters (and the most reputable ones) and not give in to this absurd nationalistic crusade you've been promulgating. This thread has absolute 0 to do with "discrimination against Turks", "nationalist zeal" or any other such bullshit that you keep bringing to threads of this nature in an all too familiar attempt to derail it yet again to mask your friends' heinous activities. @wolwoo, please don't play into the hands of the mafia by giving them a chance to divert from mathematically proven corruption in Signature campaign selections. I'll spell it out for you Pharmacist just once so you don't have to regurgitate the same straw man fallacy for the thousandth time: There is a DT clique, which you seem to be oblivious to, acting in coordinated attacks to insure that a certain group of members keep artificially clean Trust sheets, so they get all the top positions in BTC signature bounties in this forum, while they also conspire with fake character assassination jobs, using useful idiots (and many alt accounts to upvote them) like ~jollygood and ~lauda to defame otherwise sound and better qualified members, who then keep getting rejected from these campaigns based on the false grounds they created. Thus an army of mediocrity milks this forum for salaries in the form of "signature campaigns", while most of the much better qualified, meritocratic and innocent members have gotten alienated and abandoned the forum, disillusioned by the hypocrisy and feigned ignorance exhibited by members such as you and LoyceV, who seem to spend every day on Meta and Reputation boards, but mysteriously can't bring yourselves to state the blatantly obvious and take the side of truth and justice even one time... Why should @theymos and @Darkstar_ get involved ? To save this forum from drowning in the cesspools of nepotism, hypocrisy and double standards, which have become the order of the day in Default Trust and Signature Campaign activities thanks to complicit members like you... |
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