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10161  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 21, 2014, 07:29:19 PM
OC'ing question:
With Antminer S1 being overclocked to 393.75, what is the typical full power draw at the wall? I've seen numbers being reported anywhere between 400-500w. With my setup 500w might be borderline (each 1.5 ants on 750w corsair 750M)
Did anybody here measured the power draw?

I haven't OCed yet due to the overabundance of caution, but getting close to proceeding either to 375 or 393.75
10162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 20, 2014, 07:21:30 PM
Does anybody here wants my 1st public batch Neptune? If you are serious, PM me an offer in BTC (preferable) at Bitstamp price or bank transfer. I don't have to sell, so don't come up with lowball offers, please. I am in US, and will still keep my second Neptune order for now.
10163  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 19, 2014, 10:27:57 PM
Is there any programs that do the same thing for an old macbook? Or is there any other ways to do it in Terminal?

Depending how old-if you have at least OSX 10.6.8, then you can download inet from the mac store. it cost $7.5, but shows all ip's on the network, both wired and wireless. See my post a few pages back how I set up wireless hashing for ants using airport extreme and airport express.
10164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 19, 2014, 06:19:08 PM

Expand your horizons outside of Bitcoin and you will see there is a lot of money to be made now, by the time KNC delivers their solution Litecoin will likely be $25-$30 (IMHO)


As of know with $10K I could buy ~550 ltc. That means 200 days of mining at current diff level to mine back all those coins.  



Where in US can you buy LTC for $$? I opened an account on Kraken, and it says that i can only trade cryptocurrencies pairs.
I would really appreciate the info.

10165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 18, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
When do you think we might get news re technical characteristics? This week or next? Shipping dates, hosting options?
10166  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 18, 2014, 08:14:33 PM
I got myself this beast. Added in pull mode, and connected to the second blade. Great static preassure and high CFM. A little noisy but not too bad. Thinking of it as white noise

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

At ambient temperature of 80-82F, this reduced the reported ant temperatures from 48/49C to 44/44C while mining at 200GH / 393.75 clock.

When the ant can no longer mine at higher difficulty, this fan will replace the stock fan on my H80i (radiator for the liquid cooler) for keep an OC-ed cpu cool


Can you clarify "added in pull mode" and "connected to second blade"?

I see a single jack for the fan. Did you just replace the factory fan with the one you are linking? With less noise I can order a couple more ants...


Stock fan pushes air into the heat sinks while the second "high cfm/static pressure" fan that I added pulls it out from the sinks. So pull -> venting outward from the ant.

Not sure if you have a single or dual S1, but the ones I got have a fan 4-pin on each blade. Only one shows in web interface but they are both running and judging by the sound, the board is controlling them as needed.

I found 4 pins, thanks. Sounds really interesting, much obliged. Isn't this fan rated at 45dba for each, perhaps a bit too loud, especially if you deploy multiple?
My whole setup currently generates 65dba; I considered it noisy and moved it away from my office.
10167  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 18, 2014, 07:52:19 PM
I got myself this beast. Added in pull mode, and connected to the second blade. Great static preassure and high CFM. A little noisy but not too bad. Thinking of it as white noise

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

At ambient temperature of 80-82F, this reduced the reported ant temperatures from 48/49C to 44/44C while mining at 200GH / 393.75 clock.

When the ant can no longer mine at higher difficulty, this fan will replace the stock fan on my H80i (radiator for the liquid cooler) for keep an OC-ed cpu cool


Can you clarify "added in pull mode" and "connected to second blade"?

I see a single jack for the fan. Did you just replace the factory fan with the one you are linking? With less noise I can order a couple more ants...
10168  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 18, 2014, 02:56:26 PM
This is a newbie question. I'm sure the experts here know this at the top of their head.

I have two Antminer S1s and both an AX1200 and an RM1000 at my disposal (from earlier desktop builds). The Antminers are overclocked to 393 clock.

1. Which power supply should I go with?

2. Since AX1200 has higher efficiency, does this mean I actually use less watts at the wall? Trying to balance out the circuit. I also run a desktop pc on the same circuit with an HX850 (running an OC-ed 290x and 4770k processor). The circuit is 110V/15A.

3. Can the circuit take a third ant?

I saw that someone say that one of the optimal configurations is to run 3 ants on two corsair 750M. There are enough PCI-E cables to do this and you can run miners overclocked (with enough power). I have this setup, but did not overclock yet.
10169  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 18, 2014, 02:53:53 PM
I've just got  my first S1 Antminer and there's now way to log inside. I've tried 192.168.1.99 and 192.168.2.99 on different computers and also switching Wifi off. No way. Advanced IP scanner is finding nothing. I'm powering it with a Corsair 750X. Three leds turn on (1 yellow, 1 red and 1 green) and the green one is blinking. Antminer was shipped without any manual and I had to look for instructions on the web. This is my IPconfig on a Win8 laptop (sorry if it's in Italian):



connect directly to the antminer from your laptop.
ensure LAN lights on antminer ethernet port are both lit.. (yellow and green)
after a few minutes of the unit powered up..

ping 192.168.1.99

no ping?  reset the unit using the switch on the router of the antminer.

use InternetExplorer to access the antminer web page.




While connecting to antminer from laptop via ethernet cable make sure to switch your laptop's wi-fi OFF. It did not work for me without this quirk.
10170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin needs something equivalent to a stock split on: March 17, 2014, 08:24:32 PM

Firstly, this is a purely linguistic problem, not a technical one. The core developers are techies, not linguists, so they shouldn't be annoyed with this.


It is both social and technical.
1. Technical-because bank software, apparently, is not set up to use any more decimals than two, hence a proposal to move to XBU (microBTC).
2. Second (social)-regular folks (not programmers or mathematicians) cannot easily distinguish between 0.0002 and 0.00002 when they have to pay. It is known that many numbers after the period are inadvisable.

The question is how to get from here (full BTC with 8 decimals to XBU-as an example- and two decimals for satoshis).
10171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 17, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

Oh, I am sure we will hear something in the next two weeks. At least technical details will be there, but as far as shipping is concerned, they will say something less clear, in my opinion. However, $3599/Th on April 10 from at least one competitor is a huge incentive for KnC to accelerate the rollout. It has to be above 3.66TH/Neptune (batch 1, not CA) at mid April to be competitive before some adjustment for probably 30% lower electrical costs, but adding costs for PSU and cabling.
10172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 17, 2014, 06:23:56 PM
As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.
10173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin needs something equivalent to a stock split on: March 17, 2014, 06:07:29 PM

The meaning of the word "bitcoin" can't be changed because it's already in use.
It's just impossible to change the meaning of in-use words. Instead, new words are introduced.


I think everyone understand not to change a meaning of bitcoin, but the default wallet representation.
Instead of 3,012321 BTC it will be 3012321 microBTC. It would make sense to assign a three letter symbol to microBTC (XBU has been proposed).
in this case, wallet will read 3012321 XBU(microBTC). In a few years, once people get used to XBU (or some other three letter symbol), brackets and microBTC description will go away.
What is wrong with this?
I don't show this as my idea (it is not, of course); I simply bring some of the github discussion here.
10174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin needs something equivalent to a stock split on: March 17, 2014, 05:40:51 PM
So, what are core bitcoin dev planning? See github https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3862.
Are we switching to 1 microBTC as a base unit (=100 satoshis) or what?
I think it would be cool.
Each 1BTC will become 1mil microBTC.
I say, skip mBTC (millie) and move to micro. This way, you only switch once.
10175  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Setup & Troubleshoot] Bitmain AntMiner S1 180GH/S miner on: March 17, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
For those who might be interested: my wireless hashing experience.
I had apple extreme wireless router, iMac and macbook air laptop. Initially ants were mining on the router to which I attached an ethernet hub (8 slots TP-link gigabit, just ~$20-25) followed by ethernet connection between each ant and the hub.
I started hashing with my 3 ants ~5 days ago, but having them in my small office was too much (noise and hot air) and I decided to use wireless.
First attempt: tried to follow limited instructions here, but after switching ants WAN from static to DHCP as was rec by someone here, I completely lost access to the miner and had to reset back to 192.168.1.99 by using that tiny button on the board (pressing it for a few sec).
Second attempt: i simply bought Apple airport express, connected it to power close to the router and followed simple instructions on screen in Airport utilities to make a wi-fi connection between Airport extreme and Airport express (Extreme is both a router and gateway in this config).
Router (Extreme) established a link with the airport express (router at 10.0.1.1 and express at 10.0.1.X), extending the wireless network. After that, I simply moved the Airport express to another (remote) room, checked the signal and then disconnected the ethernet hub from the router (Airport extreme) and reconnected it to the airport express (in another room). Upon ants connection to the hub, the hashing continued unabated after few seconds upon the power restart with NO additional settings adjustment (I guess because WAN setting on each Ant was static and it was not lost upon reconnect).

This is wireless hashing, but does not include adjusting any wi-fi settings on the miner or miner's wi-fi antenna (advantage-miners stay at a static IP that is fixed in WAN).
10176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin needs something equivalent to a stock split on: March 14, 2014, 03:38:52 PM
I wonder would this have the same effect:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3862

It's a move to change the default representation of the currency to microBTC

I think that proposal on github is a great idea.
It plays on psychology very well. You bought 1 BTC, but now you are a millionaire (in "new" XBT)
It will allow people to make small purchases of bitcoin without thinking that they are getting something fractional, which could be thought of as not valuable.
Of course, things will appear expensive at first: a cup of coffee for 5000 XBT, but it will change going forward, hopefully.
Then, institutions will trade "whole" BTC just like they do BRKA-A (at $183,914 a share)
10177  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: March 14, 2014, 02:47:59 PM
1844XBT bought yesterday

Is it clarified anywhere which exchange they use to purchase their coins ?

They might not need an exchange and purchase directly from a large miner.
Steve Carlson boasted having 1Pth.
Here is another one-KnC datorhall:
http://organofcorti.blogspot.se/2014/03/march-9th-2014-weekly-hashrate.html

7.75% of the network or ~2.5Pth-should produce 280 coins a day (1864 coins is less than a week's worth of work)
10178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 13, 2014, 09:48:02 PM
When I saw the antminers dropping below 1btc, I was pretty excited. I'd love to grab a couple, but have decided to hold off because it doesn't appear they'll make back their investment cost. Not knocking them though.

As to noise, change out the fan. Is it a 120 or 140? I think it's 140 isn't it? I suggest you take a look at the Prolimatech Vortex fans, they're silent and push good air:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045FE3V8/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B1WQ4VA/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Edit: Since noise levels are subjective, let me put it this way. I have about 70 of these in a room, and the noise level is absolutely negligible when compared to silence.

Thanks, but as far as investment cost is concerned, all that matters is that I spent $640.
If bitcoin stays at the same price, I should get ~1BTC in 3mo, plus miner will have some (albeit small ) residual value.
If bitcoin rises, i will have good ROI in $$.
If bitcoin falls, then I would have lost money anyway whether I bought a miner or bitcoin.
10179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predictions through 2016 on: March 13, 2014, 08:07:52 PM
I have done my own speculation over the past few months (like everyone else) and am confident in my speculations.

Jul '16 = $9,900
More businesses and average folks are adopting Bitcoin faster than ever before because they are seeing how easy it is to get Bitcoins and make purchases, and realize the freedom it offers.

Dec '16 = $16,000+
I don't think Dec '16 needs an explanation based on the previous comments. As Bitcoin becomes more popular, the price will continue to rise until demand slows down, which I see happening in later years (2018, 2019).


Explain why the difference from the trendline analysis:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322058.0

In my opinion, nobody, but institutions will be buying whole bitcoins at $10K, it is just silly to imagine otherwise.
However, regular folks might be buying and using millies (mBTC).
Therefore, bitcoin prices has to be switched to either mBTC or satoshi's quite soon.

It's so funny the number of people in this day and age who don't understand...decimal points.

It does not mean that I don't, Wink
However, try to explain to anyone that they can buy 0.01 BTC and see their reaction.
10180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 13, 2014, 06:56:10 PM

This is one of the issues KNC has had growing over the past few months.. consistency.

"All Dude wanted is [to get] his rug back."

All i wanted since learning about bitcoin mining is to be involved in the process.
Jupiter was not available, so i had to decide between KnC and unknown entity-cointerra.
I put money on KnC and it was most likely a mistake. Even bigger mistake was to see a note regarding Jupiter's in December and waiting and waiting and waiting.
That was kind of low blow and almost everybody agrees on that.

Finally, I decided to order Antminer a week ago-it is noisy, only 180gh, but it cost me just $640, was delivered in 5 days, set up in a relatively few hours (due to my general inexperience), and it is hashing now and I feel...happy.
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