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1021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 03:07:04 AM
Is mazacoin still a good investment?
Active devs stated intended value for this coin is $0.25 -1.00 short term.
1022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Google funding Ripple on: March 07, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
It's ridiculous to see totally "pre-mined" XRP market capitalization on coinmarketcap.com on the second place after Bitcoin.
If they sell 1 XRP for $ 0.015, it doesn't mean their 99,999,996,426 XRP worth 1.5 billion dollars.

This deludes non-informed people who may start seeing it as investment.


Informational moments. .  Non of the p2p currencies should be looked any more as investments than time or connections are.  Shit
1023  Economy / Speculation / Re: Barriers to Entry on: March 07, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
Felt it  Cool
1024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Barriers to Entry on: March 07, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
These aren't lasting ecosystems. They are just people gambling.

So what bases does bitcoin have for not being considered just a gamble?
1025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Barriers to Entry on: March 07, 2014, 04:08:22 PM

Use different words to explain "putting a whole coin ecosystem together".

If you mean "make an altcoin", well that's easy. Getting people to use it for anything other than extremely risky speculation, that's tricky.
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Well for example the mazacoin was released with tremendous success.  And any alt that has some offical cooperative/community behind it is seeing market caps in excess of 500k.  How long will this be the case or do we reach a limit at some point in the future.
1026  Economy / Speculation / Barriers to Entry on: March 07, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
So putting a whole coin ecosystem together even competitively advanced with even the best economies of the alts coins and even bitcoin itself is a fairly simple proposition at the moment.   What will change that going forward or will it always be this way?
1027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: **Breaking news** Satoshi Nakamotos identity revealed on: March 06, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
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Real Name says: "Is that tin where you keep the bitcoin key?"

Internet field day in 3.....2....1!

http://www.amazon.com/review/R3U92F9YRUSF37/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00196P9PA

Nice work, this is exactly the kind of gift idea I need before sending my best wishes to this genius.. I will send the guy ALL the cookies!
1028  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Refund lists for round 17 of Dz Coop. on: March 06, 2014, 05:50:28 PM
Order 1266 no refund after 2+ weeks.
1029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 07:02:06 AM
I thought Auror coin was a blatant scam with a symbolic gesture to fool unsuspecting crypto buyers/traders to buy the coin while devs dumped a large premine before the so called "airdrop" happens.  There was no coordination with the government or even an organization in Iceland ahead of time so it was sololy controlled by the developers.  It was a ponzi scheme at best.

So I assume that maze coin is going to be done the same way huh?
So in your completely uneducated backwards thinking
Which makes sense, if the government of some place wanted to make currency this way does not seem like the way to do it. You would think there would be like 100% premine with maybe proof of share inflation or something like a ripple consensus. Letting people mine in mass does not make for good price control. Most importantly the government of the tribe in this case would would need to control the vast majority of the coins from the get go. Those coins would also have to have a finite number of some sort.

The mining infrastructure is being donated in return for the reward of the coins.  Do you have any idea what 7 THps distributed would logistically cost in technical expertise and asic hardware investment.  Its a good deal to allow the miners whose hardware is already running to jumpstart the mining of a p2p coin.  Were do you think these investors are planing on spending said coins as the businesses who will provide value for the coin start providing unique goods and services in exchange for them.  Right back there in the economy of Lakota.  This is a great opportunity to prove what the hell bitcoins potential can be inside the USA and the conspiracy crazies are after a ingenious plan that makes good on a promise for a p2p economy in the most realistic manner we could possibly hope for.  Give me a break get another hobby already.

That is a large cost but mining power is needed for a premine, the biggest worry of people should be the fact that miners dump most of what the get on exchanges. A large part of what is gotten on exchanges is not used to buy real stuff but to try and increase holding in bitcoins.
Its a free market and whoever ends up with those coins can evaluate the potential value of them based on how relevant they become inside a real economy with real goods and services available for them.  This hasn't happened in a coordinated legal way yet by an entire sovereign nation.  This is the tipping point for p2p currency to have a actual land rather than wave after wave of speculative hopes regarding the inherent value in a technological invention with the potential to be a better system than what we currently have.  God don't you get that while you spread the FUD you cowards have inside yourselves.  Grow the paur of balls you need to step up and contribute something positive, and if not why the fuck are you here?

I am here to get people to stop wasting money and time on coins that could be manged better, every time there is a pump and dump we lose people who could have been part of the crypto world so a few people can get more money. In my opinion the best way this could have been done is a massive premine so that all or most coins went right into the tribes hand. After which the coins could have been traded off or given to tribe members.

1 why the fuck do you care about the money of people making informed decisions on their own.  Are you somehow equipped to know what is better for them with their own fucking money.  If you don't want to buy or mine the coin don't,  it's simple.

2nd if you have a better plan for the development of a coin all the software code and expertise is open source.   Go for it make a ripple copy, or a bitcoin one just don't expect to get the millions and billions of dollars interest from institutions and business people if you don't add some value.  From all indications this coin adds more value in a specific quantifiable way than any prior to it.  It will be mine and any others risk who decide to mine and buy it in the free market it was placed in.  If you are not going to participate other than cry about how it should have been get a fucking life.  Go do something positive in the way things actually are or shut the fuck up.


I am just spreading my 2 cents as it were. This coin may make it but I am trying to cation people that there is not much proof of the claims that are being made. Also the price right now is probably a bit high for now.
So in your completely uneducated, backwards ass opinion,  you thought you would just going online to contribute nothing to other people just like yourself but who dont actually contribute any valuations in the market via mining or investing because it makes you feel important.    Nevermind this is a me wasting time on a pointless jerkoff.  When you grow some balls feel free to talk to me about your latest positive deal or how worring on the sideline works out for ya.

Just because I do not think that this coin is good right now does not mean I have nothing in anything. I have been in the bitshares since early, I have ultracoins. I even had some of these before I looked into them deeper and thought that it would be better to wait for some real news from the tribe.
So in your totally random thoughts on how this coin would be a scam you decided to sell as the price was skyrocketing.   Are you a tribal member sitting in counsel with the elders.  I hope your stake was one I bought, and whn I am in the blackhills arraigning gold derivatives to future enhance the tribal wealth, you are doing great with your self affirmative bit shares and ultracoin.  Cool man cool
1030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 06:28:39 AM
I thought Auror coin was a blatant scam with a symbolic gesture to fool unsuspecting crypto buyers/traders to buy the coin while devs dumped a large premine before the so called "airdrop" happens.  There was no coordination with the government or even an organization in Iceland ahead of time so it was sololy controlled by the developers.  It was a ponzi scheme at best.

So I assume that maze coin is going to be done the same way huh?
So in your completely uneducated backwards thinking
Which makes sense, if the government of some place wanted to make currency this way does not seem like the way to do it. You would think there would be like 100% premine with maybe proof of share inflation or something like a ripple consensus. Letting people mine in mass does not make for good price control. Most importantly the government of the tribe in this case would would need to control the vast majority of the coins from the get go. Those coins would also have to have a finite number of some sort.

The mining infrastructure is being donated in return for the reward of the coins.  Do you have any idea what 7 THps distributed would logistically cost in technical expertise and asic hardware investment.  Its a good deal to allow the miners whose hardware is already running to jumpstart the mining of a p2p coin.  Were do you think these investors are planing on spending said coins as the businesses who will provide value for the coin start providing unique goods and services in exchange for them.  Right back there in the economy of Lakota.  This is a great opportunity to prove what the hell bitcoins potential can be inside the USA and the conspiracy crazies are after a ingenious plan that makes good on a promise for a p2p economy in the most realistic manner we could possibly hope for.  Give me a break get another hobby already.

That is a large cost but mining power is needed for a premine, the biggest worry of people should be the fact that miners dump most of what the get on exchanges. A large part of what is gotten on exchanges is not used to buy real stuff but to try and increase holding in bitcoins.
Its a free market and whoever ends up with those coins can evaluate the potential value of them based on how relevant they become inside a real economy with real goods and services available for them.  This hasn't happened in a coordinated legal way yet by an entire sovereign nation.  This is the tipping point for p2p currency to have a actual land rather than wave after wave of speculative hopes regarding the inherent value in a technological invention with the potential to be a better system than what we currently have.  God don't you get that while you spread the FUD you cowards have inside yourselves.  Grow the paur of balls you need to step up and contribute something positive, and if not why the fuck are you here?

I am here to get people to stop wasting money and time on coins that could be manged better, every time there is a pump and dump we lose people who could have been part of the crypto world so a few people can get more money. In my opinion the best way this could have been done is a massive premine so that all or most coins went right into the tribes hand. After which the coins could have been traded off or given to tribe members.

1 why the fuck do you care about the money of people making informed decisions on their own.  Are you somehow equipped to know what is better for them with their own fucking money.  If you don't want to buy or mine the coin don't,  it's simple.

2nd if you have a better plan for the development of a coin all the software code and expertise is open source.   Go for it make a ripple copy, or a bitcoin one just don't expect to get the millions and billions of dollars interest from institutions and business people if you don't add some value.  From all indications this coin adds more value in a specific quantifiable way than any prior to it.  It will be mine and any others risk who decide to mine and buy it in the free market it was placed in.  If you are not going to participate other than cry about how it should have been get a fucking life.  Go do something positive in the way things actually are or shut the fuck up.


I am just spreading my 2 cents as it were. This coin may make it but I am trying to cation people that there is not much proof of the claims that are being made. Also the price right now is probably a bit high for now.
So in your completely uneducated, backwards ass opinion,  you thought you would just going online to contribute nothing to other people just like yourself but who dont actually contribute any valuations in the market via mining or investing because it makes you feel important.    Nevermind this is a me wasting time on a pointless jerkoff.  When you grow some balls feel free to talk to me about your latest positive deal or how worring on the sideline works out for ya.
1031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 05:48:53 AM
Wait a minute MZC turned out to be a scam coin just like AUR?
SELL all the coins now!   It's going to 0
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 05:43:45 AM
I thought Auror coin was a blatant scam with a symbolic gesture to fool unsuspecting crypto buyers/traders to buy the coin while devs dumped a large premine before the so called "airdrop" happens.  There was no coordination with the government or even an organization in Iceland ahead of time so it was sololy controlled by the developers.  It was a ponzi scheme at best.

So I assume that maze coin is going to be done the same way huh?

Which makes sense, if the government of some place wanted to make currency this way does not seem like the way to do it. You would think there would be like 100% premine with maybe proof of share inflation or something like a ripple consensus. Letting people mine in mass does not make for good price control. Most importantly the government of the tribe in this case would would need to control the vast majority of the coins from the get go. Those coins would also have to have a finite number of some sort.

The mining infrastructure is being donated in return for the reward of the coins.  Do you have any idea what 7 THps distributed would logistically cost in technical expertise and asic hardware investment.  Its a good deal to allow the miners whose hardware is already running to jumpstart the mining of a p2p coin.  Were do you think these investors are planing on spending said coins as the businesses who will provide value for the coin start providing unique goods and services in exchange for them.  Right back there in the economy of Lakota.  This is a great opportunity to prove what the hell bitcoins potential can be inside the USA and the conspiracy crazies are after a ingenious plan that makes good on a promise for a p2p economy in the most realistic manner we could possibly hope for.  Give me a break get another hobby already.

That is a large cost but mining power is needed for a premine, the biggest worry of people should be the fact that miners dump most of what the get on exchanges. A large part of what is gotten on exchanges is not used to buy real stuff but to try and increase holding in bitcoins.
Its a free market and whoever ends up with those coins can evaluate the potential value of them based on how relevant they become inside a real economy with real goods and services available for them.  This hasn't happened in a coordinated legal way yet by an entire sovereign nation.  This is the tipping point for p2p currency to have a actual land rather than wave after wave of speculative hopes regarding the inherent value in a technological invention with the potential to be a better system than what we currently have.  God don't you get that while you spread the FUD you cowards have inside yourselves.  Grow the paur of balls you need to step up and contribute something positive, and if not why the fuck are you here?

I am here to get people to stop wasting money and time on coins that could be manged better, every time there is a pump and dump we lose people who could have been part of the crypto world so a few people can get more money. In my opinion the best way this could have been done is a massive premine so that all or most coins went right into the tribes hand. After which the coins could have been traded off or given to tribe members.

1 why the fuck do you care about the money of people making informed decisions on their own.  Are you somehow equipped to know what is better for them with their own fucking money.  If you don't want to buy or mine the coin don't,  it's simple.

2nd if you have a better plan for the development of a coin all the software code and expertise is open source.   Go for it make a ripple copy, or a bitcoin one just don't expect to get the millions and billions of dollars interest from institutions and business people if you don't add some value.  From all indications this coin adds more value in a specific quantifiable way than any prior to it.  It will be mine and any others risk who decide to mine and buy it in the free market it was placed in.  If you are not going to participate other than cry about how it should have been get a fucking life.  Go do something positive in the way things actually are or shut the fuck up.
1033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 05:24:55 AM
I thought Auror coin was a blatant scam with a symbolic gesture to fool unsuspecting crypto buyers/traders to buy the coin while devs dumped a large premine before the so called "airdrop" happens.  There was no coordination with the government or even an organization in Iceland ahead of time so it was sololy controlled by the developers.  It was a ponzi scheme at best.

So I assume that maze coin is going to be done the same way huh?

Which makes sense, if the government of some place wanted to make currency this way does not seem like the way to do it. You would think there would be like 100% premine with maybe proof of share inflation or something like a ripple consensus. Letting people mine in mass does not make for good price control. Most importantly the government of the tribe in this case would would need to control the vast majority of the coins from the get go. Those coins would also have to have a finite number of some sort.

The mining infrastructure is being donated in return for the reward of the coins.  Do you have any idea what 7 THps distributed would logistically cost in technical expertise and asic hardware investment.  Its a good deal to allow the miners whose hardware is already running to jumpstart the mining of a p2p coin.  Were do you think these investors are planing on spending said coins as the businesses who will provide value for the coin start providing unique goods and services in exchange for them.  Right back there in the economy of Lakota.  This is a great opportunity to prove what the hell bitcoins potential can be inside the USA and the conspiracy crazies are after a ingenious plan that makes good on a promise for a p2p economy in the most realistic manner we could possibly hope for.  Give me a break get another hobby already.

That is a large cost but mining power is needed for a premine, the biggest worry of people should be the fact that miners dump most of what the get on exchanges. A large part of what is gotten on exchanges is not used to buy real stuff but to try and increase holding in bitcoins.
Its a free market and whoever ends up with those coins can evaluate the potential value of them based on how relevant they become inside a real economy with real goods and services available for them.  This hasn't happened in a coordinated legal way yet by an entire sovereign nation.  This is the tipping point for p2p currency to have a actual land rather than wave after wave of speculative hopes regarding the inherent value in a technological invention with the potential to be a better system than what we currently have.  God don't you get that while you spread the FUD you cowards have inside yourselves.  Grow the paur of balls you need to step up and contribute something positive, and if not why the fuck are you here?
1034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 05:08:37 AM
I thought Auror coin was a blatant scam with a symbolic gesture to fool unsuspecting crypto buyers/traders to buy the coin while devs dumped a large premine before the so called "airdrop" happens.  There was no coordination with the government or even an organization in Iceland ahead of time so it was sololy controlled by the developers.  It was a ponzi scheme at best.

So I assume that maze coin is going to be done the same way huh?

Which makes sense, if the government of some place wanted to make currency this way does not seem like the way to do it. You would think there would be like 100% premine with maybe proof of share inflation or something like a ripple consensus. Letting people mine in mass does not make for good price control. Most importantly the government of the tribe in this case would would need to control the vast majority of the coins from the get go. Those coins would also have to have a finite number of some sort.

The mining infrastructure is being donated in return for the reward of the coins.  Do you have any idea what 7 THps distributed would logistically cost in technical expertise and asic hardware investment.  Its a good deal to allow the miners whose hardware is already running to jumpstart the mining of a p2p coin.  Were do you think these investors are planing on spending said coins as the businesses who will provide value for the coin start providing unique goods and services in exchange for them.  Right back there in the economy of Lakota.  This is a great opportunity to prove what the hell bitcoins potential can be inside the USA and the conspiracy crazies are after a ingenious plan that makes good on a promise for a p2p economy in the most realistic manner we could possibly hope for.  Give me a break get another hobby already.
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 06, 2014, 04:57:12 AM
I thought Auror coin was a blatant scam with a symbolic gesture to fool unsuspecting crypto buyers/traders to buy the coin while devs dumped a large premine before the so called "airdrop" happens.  There was no coordination with the government or even an organization in Iceland ahead of time so it was sololy controlled by the developers.  It was a ponzi scheme at best.

So I assume that maze coin is going to be done the same way huh?

Why the fuck are you even interested in crypto coins?  I have never seen you post anything positive about any coin, and are painfully ignorant to blatant facts regarding coins with real potential.   Go get a different hobby  other than trolling a site with folks who have real vision as to why this financial movement is the biggest thing since the internet.  With offical legal status confirmed by the nation of Lakoto and 50000 coins available to non profits I could imagine an army of volunteers teaching and passing out donated android devices with a secure wallet for tribe members and businesses to use the coins available to them.  I myself would be more than willing to help coordinate this type of effort this summer break as a work study experience to my MBA program.  
1036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20 on: March 05, 2014, 01:45:35 PM
potcoin conversations are interesting..  fyi
1037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you like Auroracoin, you're going to LOVE Mazacoin (MZC)! on: March 04, 2014, 05:28:19 AM
I predict we'll see a backwash of auroracoin profits flowing into mazacoin

I already sold my AUR profits to buy Maza, it was tempting to sit on AUR and see how high it could go but doing the math if this can catch even a 1/3rd of AUR's excitement and growth there is much more money to be made.

Also as a resident of Oklahoma with a Cherokee cousin, I support anything Native Tribes can do to uplift themselves and also give the finger to Uncle Sam  Grin
Well as a citizen of OK you may want to weigh in on this new law effective this year http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/231736  This could really spur some good innovation if kids had fun with cryptos like doge or whatnot rather than fractional reserve banking principals.
1038  Other / Beginners & Help / P2P Finance Fantasy? on: March 03, 2014, 03:28:32 AM
So we are supposed to blindly believe in this even to be a college student and focus on a possibly nonexistent career.  No linkedin, anything at all really yet to corroborate a story of going into the world of work with a MBA focused on Bitcoin/ P2P/ Cryptos.  I am a finance undergrad who was jaded with the current finance world, so I went into teaching disadvantaged youth until a rude awakening in legal and personal matters made me realize that bitcoin and p2p finance in general is a real chance at a non sociopathic world which we could all use.  That inspired me to become a MBA candidate regardless of the costs I may incur despite even my circumstances of having 3 small children and being in a working mom and dad household, as well as a full-time student at least for me. I figured I worked and paid my whole way through a undergrad so why not now use the loans I didn't before, to help give me the cushion financially to even begin to attempt this journey.  My previous posts include all my personal information and would happily accept any internship/contracted assistance with a p2p finance oriented themes to provide additional help in financially dealing with the costs in my education.  So anyway tell me am I crazy do I need to be helped before all the countless possibilities in this field are developed by me or others who are risking a real possible hell financially taking a creative gamble in a bitcoin inspired vision for the world?
1039  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Development: Lack of Progress? on: March 03, 2014, 03:08:41 AM
This to me is why a semi private development like ripple will be the one to beat presently.  Opensource code with a privately funded development.  Sure decentralization is valuable and should be recognized as the lifeblood of any noncorruptable system of finance.  But the existing financial system we have is and will hopefully remain viable long enough to smoothly, step by step transition into a pure p2p system as bitcoin can be with the p2p exchanges and improvements so needed working on.  This makes ripple a clear contender on a level that is insurmountable to the current state of the bitcoin environment.
1040  Economy / Economics / Re: Will bitcoin survive a global economic crash? on: February 28, 2014, 02:41:04 PM
Survive to the current crash, and we'll talk about it later... okay?
Crash you call this current fiasco a crash..
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