I just noticed that anyone using the "test" versions are no longer going to be able to connect to the network, as per this: 2014-Sep-10 09:23:34.874223 ERROR C:/msys2/home/mikezackles/work/bitmonero/src/p
2p/net_node.inl:108 Exception at [node_server::init_config], what=unsupported ve
rsion
2014-Sep-10 09:23:34.876223 ERROR C:/msys2/home/mikezackles/work/bitmonero/src/p
2p/net_node.inl:239 Failed to init config. That's because the test version doesn't have the new binaries yet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.msg8745440#msg8745440lol, smooth, I know. That's my point.  Anyone using the test versions now can't use their accounts. I guess if I want things to move faster I'll have to get more involved in the programming of things around here so that we don't run into these avoidable delays. Not that I'm ever one to discourage people from getting involved with programming but.. You can use the non-test version right? |
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Thank you for your input. I was leaning towards HitBTC because they have very competent staff and a brilliant API and web interface. I've used HitBTC to trade BTC and BCN and they have always been great. I may use Poloniex for the initial buy, though, seeing as they have a bit more liquidity than HitBTC.
Oh and when I say big, I don't mean crazy big, I just mean ~3000€. I have been pondering this for a while and I think I will go ahead with it. Thanks for the replies.
That's not "crazy big" but big enough that you want to operate on a market with decent liquidity such as Poloniex. I've not used it but my understanding is that hitbtc has decent liquidity as well. One thing I dont like about htibtc is that I've been told they don't provide a txid when you make a withdrawal. That makes tracking down missing payments harder. |
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Anything that is technically vulnerable will be attacked sooner or later. This is not a 'proof' of Monero validity (as it seems from some comments here that assume: attacked, therefore feared, therefore good). On the contrary, if anything, it is a proof of the system fragility in the current state.
The attacks take effort, and there are a multitude of targets. Choosing one target over others implies some degree of perceived importance to the chosen target. |
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And per Peter R's chart, user adoption is what drives the market cap, not investor adoption.
Peter R's chart doesn't show that because: 1. it doesn't show causality, and 2. there is no way to know whether the transactions and/or addresses in use on the Bitcoin network are users or investors. A huge amount of Bitcoin activity is investors, probably a majority. Really, who "uses" Bitcoin? Who used it last November-December when his chart showed both the metrics and price skyrocketing? A better interpretation of his chart is that investors drive market cap! |
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We'll need to make sure this is legitimate, is there word from the official Monero development team?
It's legitimate in the sense that is it definitely engaged in communications with the core team, and I have no reason to doubt the commitment to donate 50% of membership fees to the core team for devleopment. Further some of the core team may also be members of this group, though such membership would be as individuals and not representing the core team (nor vice versa). However, it is also an independent group with its own charter and direction, so you will need to use your own judgement as to whether it is something you want to support. The option to donate directly to the core team and decline to participate in this new group remains. What is the relation of MEW and the core team?
Core team exists by their own right, chooses their members, and they have defined their role is to develop the Monero software.
MEW exists as a voluntary group of people who own XMR, and is bound to accept more members based on this criterion. Because the core team members also own XMR, they are eligible and welcome to join MEW, and some have been interested in doing so.
MEW will concentrate on the peripheral/economic aspects of the coin infrastructure, and the people in the community, leaving the core team more time and resources to concentrate on the development. MEW will also support the donation address.
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Shouldnt the devs decide the priorities? I mean they are the once who must donate their time to implement features.
The core team retains complete control with how to develop the coin, Monero (XMR). The role of MEW is to give them valuable information on the community's wishes, but we cannot force even our own members to do anything, much less the devs who - as a collective - are not even members. In a similar way we may issue suggestions to whomever, but they are not bound to follow the suggestions, and we will employ great care to not meddle in others' affairs, and also expect nobody to tell us how we should make use of our XMR privacy coin.
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Was the broken block explorer out of sync or on a fork?
Unlikely, as that doesn't really fit the timeline of the OP ("two days ago" from September 3). It certainly doesn't explain why his transaction still doesn't show up on that block explorer now. EDIT: looking at the block in chainradar, it is from August 31. There was no issue at all of forking or sync problems at that time. |
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You were sending TO bter? From where?
oh well jeez that is his problem right there LOL man i have had a lot of coins vanish on the way there ahhaha ..cent ..max coin etc good luck with that.. I had more trouble taking coins OUT of bter. They did eventually fix it though. I'm pretty sure I solved the problem a post or two back though. Broken block explorer. |
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That stupid thread was the one where the BCN shills stuffed the ballot to keep with the fast curve, most likely to maximize their potential to mine with their non-deopmitized miner, ideally for a long time (since instamining is impossible). Unfortunately for them it didn't work out because: 1) others optimized the miner privately too (dga and probably others), 2) the community optimized the public miner within a month or so, and 3) the community developed GPU miners. The curve is about twice as fast as Bitcoin. I wanted it slower but I'm not sure twice as fast as Bitcoin is bad, given much faster adoption now. For the first two years or so, very few people even knew Bitcoin existed and there was no cryptocoin community. The situation is very different now. It doesn't really matter though, pretty much no matter what we say you will continue bashing Monero, hyping your vapor coin, worshiping Armstrong, creating new accounts, and begging for money. So carry on. |
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smooth's Monero quick-start bundle for new installs (Windows 64 bit, Mac, Linux 64-bit)Easy one-step download for new installs via BitTorrent containing the current version of the application (0.8.8.3) and the blockchain as of 2014-09-07! For updates download the application from the original post. To update you don't normally need a new blockchain. This is an unofficial bundle and unofficial service. Blame only me. Windows 64 bit: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:999c126739c4caed0d2b2848798e148cfa5151d1&dn=smooth%20Monero%200.8.8.3%20Bundle%20Windows%2064-bit%202014-09-07&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80
Mac: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8ecff9d2e9793c7b7a42a767bbdc19434e5febbe&dn=smooth%20Monero%200.8.8.3%20Bundle%20Mac%202014-09-07&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce
Linux 64 bit: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7513bcccbe00a5d875b64bace8ad351042bd600c&dn=smooth%20Monero%200.8.8.3%20Bundle%20Linux%2064-bit%202014-09-07&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce
If you are a BitTorrent user, please try these and let me know via PM whether they work. I've gotten conflicting reports about whether my permanent seeds are functioning properly. Please include information about your BitTorrent client, NAT status (if you know), etc. |
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You shilled Bitcoin because you were so heavily invested, and now you are shilling Monero. It is highly unlikely that your view of Monero and Bitcoin "facts" are not skewed by your position. Reading your posts, it is a certainty.
It is just as likely that his position is skewed by his view of the facts. |
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Hi,everyone！
Two days ago I send XMR to bter.com
i copy and paste the command line to my simple wallet ,but forgot include the "payment ID"
Transaction ID is " dd9179aae7655f9f2963fa3cedf9cb6a952be17c7ae2d1ee127d9102047e58b4 "
I search in the monerochain explorer return "Transaction not found"
but the Transaction ID can be found in block "cd96ae7fd830d8b4e86184994ba6423fd9df6b6873cbd06d32d104c1dcac6f9e"
I contact the staff of bter.com but they deny that they had received the XMR . The reason is "the Transaction can not be found on monerochain explorer"
My walllet return that
2014-Sep-01 00:52:05.589673 Transaction successfully sent. <<dd9179aae7655f9f2963fa3cedf9cb6a952be17c7ae2d1ee127d9102047e58b4>>
I refresh my wallet in these two days The 43.9 XMR just got disappeared!
Can anyone help me out? Thanks a lot！
The monerochain site is messed up, try a different explorer, like this one: http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/dd9179aae7655f9f2963fa3cedf9cb6a952be17c7ae2d1ee127d9102047e58b4 |
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I just noticed that anyone using the "test" versions are no longer going to be able to connect to the network, as per this: 2014-Sep-10 09:23:34.874223 ERROR C:/msys2/home/mikezackles/work/bitmonero/src/p
2p/net_node.inl:108 Exception at [node_server::init_config], what=unsupported ve
rsion
2014-Sep-10 09:23:34.876223 ERROR C:/msys2/home/mikezackles/work/bitmonero/src/p
2p/net_node.inl:239 Failed to init config. That's because the test version doesn't have the new binaries yet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.msg8745440#msg8745440 |
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Q: Why are there so many "self moderated" Monero topics at Bitcointalk ?
A: Because fucktards like Spoetnik like to spam
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Why do you guys have so many different support topics and shill accounts here ?
Why do you feel the need to bump every single Monero thread, even ones that are months old? We thank you for the extra exposure, but it isn't something we really need. |
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What I am interested in, is why Poloniex took XMR on? It threw out the second alt, replaced it with XMR, and then suddenly gave it all these extra markets that LTC never got.
I'm pretty sure what happened is they added all the CryptoNote coins, probably not knowing which would be the most successful (and indeed in the early days they all had their high volume pumps), XMR became the most persistently popular and really made it for the exchange (e.g. they made enough from commissions on XMR trading to pay back the losses from the earlier hack). Once that happened they switched from LTC to XMR for the low-value coin markets to capitalize on that volume and try to extend their position as the leading XMR exchange. This is unprecedented, other exchanges have tried with Doge and Primecoin in addition to LTC, but Poloniex effectively alienated all litecoin owners. I traded a fair bit there, btc or ltc. I no longer visit the site. It's a shame, because they have some nice support agents. XMR is unprecedented. There is no other alt that has attracted the interest of so many (or even any) old time BTC supporters and BTC whales. There just hasn't been an alt with the same degree of genuine innovation combined with a reasonably fair launch and community leadership. |
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What I am interested in, is why Poloniex took XMR on? It threw out the second alt, replaced it with XMR, and then suddenly gave it all these extra markets that LTC never got.
I'm pretty sure what happened is they added all the CryptoNote coins, probably not knowing which would be the most successful (and indeed in the early days they all had their high volume pumps), XMR became the most persistently popular and really made it for the exchange (e.g. they made enough from commissions on XMR trading to pay back the losses from the earlier hack). Once that happened they switched from LTC to XMR for the low-value coin markets to capitalize on that volume and try to extend their position as the leading XMR exchange. |
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ExtremeHashwww.extremehash.com99.99% Uptime | Super Advanced Pool | Multiple Servers | 1+ MH/s
0% feeWe're growing! Come join in the hashing party now! Anybody know what's up with extremehash.com? Website is still up, but last block was 6 hours ago, miner won't connect, and their IRC channel isn't showing up right now. My mining proceeds are just above the 0.2 threshold on their site, but it hasn't paid out -- usually it's quick. I just contacted strangewildthing. Waiting on a response. Every pool should have some channel for support (thread, IRC, email, etc.). Suggest contacting the pool. |
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Not much of a price move, back to the sideways trading, maybe?
I really cannot understand that a coin would have so much volume, so many "senior members" suddenly speaking for it, yet the price stays the same for days on end.
Look at Doge (urgh) in comparison, you see movement, not stagnation.
Remember Feathercon?
That's an amateurish comment. Coins that are to be used in the real world, are not supposed to have huge daily fluctuations. That's what makes so many people think BTC isn't something to be taken seriously, since it's price(and all alt-coins atm), can fluctuate so drastically. Moneros price staying the same for days on end, is a Good Thing. It's actually the best thing. That shows it has little volatility, and can be taken seriously as a currency, not just a toy to pump and dump. It is still reasonable to ask why this is happening, without the assuming (with zero evidence) an answer. |
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Slightly off topic..... snip....
snip.... ...and some DRK trolls... snip.... Now that this coin is on people's radar, pumping and they realise they missed getting in at ground level, expect:
Nobody missed the ground level. We are pretty much still in the basement with less than 5% of the coins mined, multiple pools coming online, GUI wallets being worked on, and only a few exchanges trading it. We will, of course have the usual parade of FUD, false accusations, and innuendo just to remind us that we are doing something right and starting to succeed. Think of them as a badge of honor. Nobody attacks an unsuccessful coin.
Best of luck with all the FUD.
I know it's hard, and you have made a point to be selective in collective brandishing, but DRK is not full of Monero trolls, since back in the day... I'm not sure what you are saying. There were DRK supporters or shill who were FUDing and trolling monero very early on (before it was possible for it to be in response to anything). For whatever reason most of that stopped along the way. The BCN shills still make an appearance from time to time. |
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The anti Monero trolling is a reaction to this. For someone who professes to be a 'crypto guru' this gap in your vision is illuminating to others.
This is inaccurate. The anti-Monero trolling started almost from day one when there were hardly any Monero supporters, maybe none at all, and rpietila was not yet involved. As already noted most of it started with BCN sockpuppets (and some DRK trolls). Imitators likely followed, since trolling XMR become something of a sport. Regarding business practices in the alt world, they are indeed scammy as all fuck. Even the BCN scam wouldn't really violate "community standards." The only thing that made it different from 99.9% of the alts was some interesting technology that was worth adopting into a non-scam project (Monero). So I agree that a lot of the hate is the backlash against wading into a cesspool of scammers, holding them up to reasonable standards of honesty, fair dealing, and non-scam-friendly business structures, and seeing that virtually all badly fail such a test. Rpietila is to be commended for not slipping into the faulty logic of "they can't be scammers" and lowering his standards. They can be, and they are. Even more than usual that kind of hate is a complement. |
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