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1061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: January 31, 2017, 04:04:20 PM
I've never been a big time gambler before bitcoin, so i was just gambling casually sometimes in the physical casinos because physical casinos are way more fun than gambling in front of a computer screen in your pajamas, even tho is not as comfortable but when something is comfortable and there is money involved you can end up going broke.
1062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If someone really famous started an altcoin, would it be a threat to Bitcoin ? on: January 31, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
No, you are overrating the power of celebrities in this field. They could get a decent marketcap going because of speculators wanting to profit from the "wow a celebrity endorsing a cryptocurrency" hype, when that is over, a big fat dump would happen and the coin would join the list of irrelevant shitty coins with no value.
1063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does Litecoin have a future? on: January 31, 2017, 01:03:03 PM

it is funny how this topic was bumped (thanks to whoever revived it).
it is from nearly a year ago and as we can see litecoin is still alive and kicking, and also in the development front it has been growing a lot. we have seen SegWit be released for litecoin and we are now waiting for the miners to accept it.

i say if any altcoin is to stay alive in the future, that altcoin is Litecoin.

You do have a point there mate. As Litecoin is one of the first alts, that has integrated SegWit into its code, it can certainly have a great impact on its future once it signals acceptance from the majority of miners. I think that when the time comes where SegWit becomes active on Litecoin, it will be the one where it will increase in price, as well as interest from users who are not only cryptocurrency experts, but those who are new into digital payments as well.

Nevertheless, this is a sign that Litecoin, might continue to grow for years to come. Just my opinion.  Grin

I think Litecoin will always be worth holding. It always does the same: goes to the floor for a long time (which is where you slowly buy) then something happens and it pumps hard.

I have seen this behavior too with other coins like Dogecoin.
1064  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think "iamnotback" really has the" Bitcoin killer"? on: January 30, 2017, 06:26:16 PM
It is ridiculous that I could go so long without knowing I had TB.

Since you were living in the Philippines last year, and you have children who are half-Filipino........ridiculous indeed.

Dude, I've apparently had Tuberculosis for several years. I've been living in the Philippines continuously since 2005, and greater than 50% of time from 1991 to 2004.

What is ridiculous is how fucking stupid the doctors are here.

Additionally my doctor in 2012 for my acute peptic ulcer had prescribed ofloxacin without first testing me for TB, thus if I already had TB then (which is very likely as I think it caused my ulcer) then he made my TB resistant to the only second line drug treatment for multi-drug resistant TB.

A competent doctor should not prescribe the main second line drug for curing TB to someone in a country with 70 - 80% incidence of latent TB where up to 1% of the active cases are resistant to all 4 of the first line drugs!!

If I have a strain of TB resistant to the main 4 drugs, then if that idiot doctor made my TB resistant also to ofloxacin, then basically there are no drug remaining to cure the TB!!

He was treating me for h.pylori and I had a very toxic olfactory reaction to clarithromycin so he decided to prescribe me ofloxacin, but he should know that he must test for TB before giving me ofloxacin, because it can make my TB resistant to ofloxacin, thus meaning I could become incurable. When taking ofloxacin for curing TB, you take much higher doses and for much longer prior of time, than for treating h.pylori.

That is insane. If he had tested me for TB, I wouldn't have been sick for 4 fucking years, which caused me to go bankrupt.

That is fucking ridiculous. In a foreign country, you would sue the doctor for malpractice.

This happens all the time in the west too. I mean yeah you aren't going to get tuberculosis in US or Europe, but more and more people are falling under the "chronic fatigue syndrome" which basically means "we don't know what's up".

In some cases it ends up it was just a tick bite or something that you can catch in a fun day in the mountain or whatever, and you end up with Lyme and you don't even know it. Doctors don't test shit because "it's unlikely" so you have to resort to paying shit yourself.

Anway, lets hope you keep getting better and you can deliver a good package through the year.

What do you think about Pascalcoin? claims to have a "blockchainless" system while solving the double spend problem or some shit. What I do know is, some people made massive gains recently, it pumped hard. Justified or not? im not sure since I dont understand if the tech is good or this is another random shitcoin pump just like Fibrecoin or NAUT (why the hell is Naut going 134% right now anyway)
1065  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC FN 104: Bermudez vs Korean Zombie Info and Prediction Thread on: January 30, 2017, 04:56:44 PM
Im not familiar with Fight Night fighters usually, but the fact that there's a guy going by the name Korean Zombie is probably worth watching. Im not doing any betting tho, since I have no idea about how those guys perform. I remember watching some Bermudez fights back in the day but that's all.

Im not doing any betting, I will wait for the McGregor vs Khabib fight for big bets.
1066  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: January 30, 2017, 03:53:20 PM
Yes I feel embarrassed, because gambling is forbidden by religion and my country. a gambler will be perceived badly. It could even go to jail. so from that I play with the surreptitious. but I am not a gambler. I only play when having free money and gambling as entertainment I. even I am doing this in a month only 1-3 times


Sometimes I also feel like an idiot after spending money in gambling, but it's the same feeling when you spend time on other similar recreational stuff. Sometimes when I go out I ask myself why I wasted all that money and I should have stayed home, but sometimes the fun is worth it.
1067  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 24, 2017, 12:12:17 AM
The next 2 days are critical. [...]

Everyday is a critical day, for the better or the worst...  Grin
For what? We won't see any significant drop in price anymore, market is stalled. Bullish trend is slowly forming, but it might take more than 2 days.
Price has been totally dull throughout whole day, tomorrow might be the same. We are now in the period of stability more than anything else.

Lol, look again. Somebody took a big dump. The filthy chinamen public bank of china doing inside trading with chinese whales? or just random whale panicking? stupid ass whales with shaky fingers can drop massive red candles out of fucking nowhere apprently. That shit was insane. 920 to 900 in seconds fucking hell.
1068  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: January 24, 2017, 12:09:16 AM
Look at the graph right now. Somebody took a big ass dump. Price went from 920 to 900 in seconds, how the fuck can somebody ever predict this bullshit? I mean look at the graph, a big ass red candle out of nowhere. I literally blinked and when I opened my eyes a big ass dump happened.
A big whale dumping or more chinese bullshit this time? well find out tomorrow.
1069  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: January 23, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Can someone answer:

1) What is the best wallet to store ICO locally that will pay me dividends? Or to get paid dividends you will need to hold them online in the online platform? because that is not very safe

2) The dividends are paid in ICO or in other token? because if they paid in ICO, then the total supply will be inflationary... not good for long term.
1070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can someone explain to me some stuff about factom? on: January 23, 2017, 04:05:20 PM
How is this thing blockchain? It uses 32 federated servers.

The developers release 73k coins per month correct? Why does a coin have value? Why not have a set price to insert a factoid at their website: i.e. 15 cents per  factoid

I feel like I'm losing my mind but is factom not incredibly stupid?




I think it's something like the usenet system with coins... im not sure how it works if there are centralized servers it does sound a bit dumb.

It's also a bit dumb to invest in inflationary currencies if you are expecting to make gains long term as well.
1071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scam Alert The Billion Coin - Ponzi Scheme on: January 23, 2017, 02:59:27 PM
1. No source code, no whitepapers, and no roadmap

to me, that's enough to classify as ponzi scheme.

Or what could be worse: It could be a RAT (remote access trojan) that would install on your PC and steal all of your bitcoins, because that all they want... everyone want's your bitcoin out there. 99.9999% of altcoins are scams and all the developers want is your bitcoins, so trust no one, certainly not a coin that is not open source.
1072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Has anybody used Tether? on: January 23, 2017, 02:13:12 PM
Somewhat recently I came across an altcoin called "Tether." Basically it's an altcoin backed by USD/EURO (I know this probably sounds blasphemous to some people because they go to Bitcoin/Altcoins to escape Fiat, but this interests me), so it got my attention. Has anybody ever used them, and if so are they something that you'd recommend using or avoiding?

I have considered using Tether USDT in Poloniex in the past, because it seems that it is the best and only way to trade against the USD without having to give all your details to the stupid ass exchanges, but of course, it makes me a bit paranoid about it going to 0 because of some bug, or because the exchange crashes.
1073  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: January 23, 2017, 12:18:37 PM
Andy Murray was a shock loss yesterday and i was very lucky not to bet on his match but i win some money on Federer winning his match with Nishikori but i get a little scared because Nishikori play very good tennis but Federer show that he is still a top player in the world. I think today Nadal win his match so i bet on him to win.

It would be a shock if Federer and Nadal lose... all the big names would be out already if im not mistaken. I just hope that the two can make it to the finals and we get a nostalgic final between my two favorite players. I will stay away from any bets for the rest of the tournament because I got wrong all of my bets in this damn tournament because all the easy bets went wrong.. I will just enjoy the rest of the tournament.
1074  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What is the best way to store Iconomi tokens and get dividends paid? on: January 22, 2017, 07:32:37 PM
Ok I may buy some of this just in case, even tho I can't trust it long term, but anyway, lets say I buy some in Kraken... how do I locally store them?

Why the fuck isn't there a video tutorial in how to do this? They spend 400k USD in marketing and they can't even bother making some simple videotutorials for the people that don't have time to read in between 400 pages in obscure forums? c'mon.

I've already had like 3 different answers. Some said myethereumwallet, other mist, other Omniwallet or Omnicore... what is the god damn correct answer? What a mess.


I just want to store the tokens locally, like wallet.dat with Bitcoin Core, but with ICONOMI and the software must pay me the dividends. I hope that you don't need to hold your coins in an online platform or something like that to get paid dividends otherwise that will be a disaster. All online wallets get hacked eventually.
1075  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: January 22, 2017, 07:18:07 PM
I just saw the Andy Murray game because I wasn't able to see it live, and he reminded me of a younger Andy Murray when he used to lose his nerve really easy. It seems like he was passive for the entire match when he started feeling danger he lost his nerves. He is already 29 and still doesn't seem like a solid chamption to me. He is a player that sometimes plays like the best and others looks like an amateur. He is not a solid bet at all.

Looking forward the next Nadal and Federer matches.
1076  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can you trust ICONOMI if ICONOMI depends on ETH? on: January 22, 2017, 07:03:54 PM
@densuj
NO, the problem is you all are trying to pretend that crowd-funding (an ICO) is a legit way for you take make money off of.

It's not.

It never will be unless it's regulated.. *maybe.

Until then the little idiotic profiteer scammy circle-jerk of scheme coins continues.
..for profit.

PS:
This is the Altcoin section assholes ..NOT the alternative Pyramid scheme token section.
Grow the fuck up scammy bastards.
Actually i agree with but i don't agree with that i am trying to pretend an ICO is legit way for making profit,
 there are no legit way for making profit on digital currencies everything there are risk must be taken.
All of peoples are know about it, so everything depend on the users what will doing.

I think i just finished saying what you just said on the Maidsafe topic.
Outlining risk is one thing.. but i hope to probe the dev teams to be accountable.
If we do not keep their feet to the fire they are not going to volunteer much info to us.
And not all users grasp the risk involved.
They think they see it working now so it will be later.
It must be ok because we are doing it right ?

And ideology comes into play here too !

People play the "Use due diligence" card here a lot over the years.
Problem is you can't really when the game is crooked & rigged badly.

So are you holding any ICN's? What do you think of this project? Im not sure yet if I want to get involved in this at all. I mean it may go to 1 dollar, or may crash because devs run with the money. What is stopping devs from running with the money anyway? we have seen it a million times before.

Just in case I end up buying some: What is the best wallet to hold the coins and get the dividends paid, and also how to calculate how many dividends are you going to get paid?
1077  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: January 22, 2017, 04:48:05 PM
I went to Las Vegas some day to watch a boxing match, and i meet with some friends, of course the fight happened in one of the casinos, so it was too tempting to not try to gamble a bit and see what happens. I end up gambling and winning and i became addicted to it.
1078  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any place to gamble IF the Mayweather vs McGregor fight will happen? on: January 22, 2017, 03:49:10 PM


So you want to talk about the casuals as if they do not anything about boxing. But I ask you, was the fight organized only for the boxing experts and hardcore fans? Of course not or else it will not make any money. That is why they hyped it in the first place. It is more of a business and less of a sport these days. Gone are the days of the true great fighters like Hagler, Hearn, Leonard and Duran. Those fighters never disappointed amid the hype. Watching Anderson Silva in the octagon doing nothing is more entertaining than the Pacquaio versus Mayweather fight.

Accept it. It was one of the most boring fights in the history of boxing.

Haha although it's funny but you are true. I would rather watch anderson doing nothing but still entertain myself than watching that boring fight + mayweather won like what? haha are they serious?

 But still the interest shows up when mcgregor wanted to fight a whore in boxing then after that if ever that mayweather would still won i would accept but he have to also get an MMA licensed and fight mcgregor inside the octagon haha.

I can see how the fight will happen right now between Conor and Floyd. Conor will go after his opponent around the ring and Floyd will counter. He can hit Conor and guess what? No knock out power from Floyd. If Conor can get one lucky straight to the chin that would knock floyd out. But we all know Floyd does not want to get it. He is there for the money.

Mayweather has been punched hard in the past and has resisted all of the big hits. People forgets he has a strong chin because he barely gets hit. Go watch more fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofeqQ_ljCk

As you can see here, he has taken big shots, still managed to come back and win.

It is quite funny on how you predict the certain game. Tho mayweather loves to run i could really say that he can absorbed some hard punches because after all he has pretty much solid face( you can see it anyways) Grin Grin


Sorry but Mayweather will kick Conor McGregor's ass. He will outboxing him and make him look like an amateur, it's just how it is. Also people are judging McGregor's power with UFC gloves. With boxing gloves he would be a soft puncher, using bloxing gloves is a different game.
1079  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: has any casino ever been hacked losing a lot of money? on: January 22, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
There was some news in the past that certain investors losses their money in gambling sites because it was hack, so it is true that gambling sites can be hack. If big exchanges can be hack and they have more advance security, how much more an online gambling sites?

these days hacking is not just about security because many of the hacks that happened to the exchanges were either inside jobs, than an employee of the exchange did rob them or it was a sham, which means there was no hack ever, and the exchange owner scammed everyone and ran away with their money.

The biggest hacks of all time that happen in both exchanges and casinos are nothing but inside jobs. Remember MtGox, Cryptsy, Mintpal, Bitfinex... list goes on all day. All of those were inside jobs where people inside the system had access to it. Most hacks happen because of that, not because someone finds out an exploit.
1080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can you trust ICONOMI if ICONOMI depends on ETH? on: January 21, 2017, 02:01:09 PM
Eth is by nature too unstable, i don't believe in DAO, ICN, FACT, ETH, ETC  ..... Because as many pointed here, eth can be hard forked at any moment, plus, it is user unfriendly, and a big mess for the developers.
Hopefully i never invest in ICOs, so i have nothing to fear about them, but i aleready heard about their inner problems, and about the possible past scams, but they are not the only ones in this situation, a lot of known projects here are in the same position, even steem is a probable scam because of a "revealed pyramid scheme", same for waves who still can't achieve its roadmap ....
there are tons of projects like that, you can't trust easily people, but if you do, then be easy on your pocket.

Well most ICOs are shit, nobody is going to argue with that, but this ICN one was a bit of a success in my book. Considering most post ICOs are a mess, this one has survived pretty well, so its clear that this is not the same as always, but the risk remains: This is an ETH token, and you can never fully trust altcoin devs.
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