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1061  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The time of seriousness is disappearing on: July 03, 2019, 02:03:47 PM
The thing with all these predictions is that they are opinions, nothing more. The more people we have in this space, the more predictions there will be because every person has an opinion on what the price will do.

I think the best thing is to filter through these predictions once, then just follow those who make sense and have skin in the game. Don't pay attention to people who are obviously whoring for publicity by riding on Bitcoin's popularity.

I'm sure that things will get worse after the next mania, because we'll dig deeper in mainstream adoption than ever before. The deeper you dig the more average the people become.
1062  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Localbitcoin down! on: July 03, 2019, 12:34:27 PM
Wait, so now everyone on LBC has to undergo KYC verification before they can trade?

What's even the point in P2P anymore with these rules and regulations. Damn.
Too bad all the decentralized alternatives are so bad, and paxful is also catching up on these AML laws..  Undecided
I feel ya. Seeing legitimate businesses comply with the regulations is something we have to accept because it's not going to change for the better at all, only for the worse unfortunately.

The times where you could use exchange platforms semi anonymous are over. BTC-E was my favorite exchange for that reason. It was a safe haven for non KYC/AML users until the authorities took them down. Bastards.

The 'good' thing however is that we'll see less shitty exchanges with how they won't be able to offer actual fiat trading. In order to enter this market it has to happen through a compliant exchange.
1063  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CFTC grants ErisX as DCO on: July 03, 2019, 11:34:49 AM
I'm not going to cheer yet because the demand for these instruments might not be there at all. It's great that the CFTC approved two proposals in a row, but what's it all worth when the volumes just aren't there?

Most of the institutions interested in Bitcoin trade at CME already, so it's going to be a difficult task to beat that. If something isn't exponentially better over what's available already, people don't tend to change to that.

I'll happily admit being wrong when the volumes indicate a high level of demand, but first it needs to happen. People here tend to jump on the hype bandwagon too quickly not realizing that it may turn out to be a flop.
1064  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The BTC prices are being manipulated, what do the market makers have in mind? on: July 02, 2019, 11:26:56 PM
People thinks its a part of the game they should play and they should read the manipulator's mind in order to profit beside them.
There is no such a thing as reading the manipulator's mind because there next to no manipulation. What people here consider manipulation is just Bitcoin going through a 30-40% correction.

Some times these corrections take a few days to play out, and some times it can take weeks or months. It all comes down to how active the market is. This is what Bitcoin has been doing for years now. People shouldn't be so sensitive.

The current correction from $14k to below $10k played out fast because we had fast upwards movements prior it. Anyone heard about the saying what goes up hard comes down hard?

You want an example of something that could be seen as an actual attempt to manipulate the market? It's Bakkt saying they will launch at a certain specific date while they know it's not going to happen, then announce they will delay their launch.
1065  Economy / Speculation / Re: Relax people. on: July 02, 2019, 10:58:00 PM
Panic sellers at $17 are probably enjoying the ride so far. Time to panic buy!
This old post is hilarious considering that we are still going through the same cycles where fear and greed rule the market-- the only difference is the price. I hope people will understand that.

Most of us aren't as much of an early bird as these people were, but looking back at the price of $800 in 2017 and now $11k, that's pretty damn early too. You're only too late by the time we're hovering over $100-$200k.

You can take a risk and buy bitcoin now on the decline. And sell it on a new wave of HYIP. And at the same time make good money)))
Sell during a new wave of HYIP? Do you ever read what you write before hitting post?
1066  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Analyst Says Bitcoin (BTC) Price Could Hit $100,000 During Next Bull Run on: July 02, 2019, 10:38:51 PM
It is funny how analyst predict prices. they say Bitcoin will reach  x hundred thousands dollars  when it is in an uptrend move, then predicts that bitcoin will be worthless when it suffers a crash.  This sure make them very reliable in their prediction.  Sometimes I just wonder, most of these analyst just ride the sentiments of the market just to have clicks of their article or gather more followers.
That. Bitcoin is nothing but an opportunity to market themselves because it's the hottest asset class in the world as we speak. They just go with the flow of the price and adjust their opinion to match the sentiment.

If they really believed anything of what they said, they would long Bitcoin the moment they write about how they believe we're due for $100k, and short it whenever they believed much lower levels are due.

Every site or individual being a self proclaimed expert being involved in crypto as a whole, experiences a massive increase in followers. This is what they are after. They don't really care about Bitcoin at all. Popularity it is.
1067  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Bankers Say Cryptocurrencies Do Not Threat The Global Financial Stability on: July 02, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
The South African Reserve Bank has stated that Cryptocurrency will become a material threat to the financial system if the market capitalization exceeds $1 trillion... SA Resbank Consultation Paper on Cryptocurrency
They don't realize how flawed the market cap metric in crypto is. The ratio between the market cap of a coin and the actual amount of money within its ecosystem is incredibly poor-- worse than penny stocks in some cases.

It will come down to how much use crypto enjoys, and what that use actually is. If we're stuck in speculation mode even when we do exceed the $1 trillion total crypto market cap, it will not form a threat to any government.

People need to see the value of crypto as disruptive currencies, not as gambling tools allowing them to potentially make big gains. I'm sure we are still many many years away from being at that point.
1068  Economy / Economics / Re: Can not believe 5 years ago you could of bought one whole bitcoin for this much! on: July 02, 2019, 01:35:15 PM
I remember when I thought that accumulating between $300 and $500 back in 2015 was enough.  Cheesy

I however don't blame myself for thinking like that back then, mainly because of how poor the fundamentals were. There wasn't much other than people thinking Bitcoin will do well, while today that's completely different.

Today is happening what back in 2015 people could only dream about. Keep accumulating whenever you can, even if it's just $10-$50 per week/month. Dollar cost averaging is a great way to buy into Bitcoin as non technical person.

Today we look at $600 thinking it's low, but the same will happen to current levels when we're 5 or so years away from now. It will suck thinking back about how much you could have had by now if you bought the current dip.
1069  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-01]Bitcoin’s Pullback Below $10,000 Positive For Investors on: July 02, 2019, 11:44:17 AM
In such times it's always interesting how people will react to the decline. They might think that it was just a start of a greater decline.
People don't change.

Price at $13k = oh I wish I bought at $10k.
Price at $10k = I think we have more room to the down side.
Price at $8k = experts are right, we're going back to $3k.

People have always been riding the sentiment where they buy whatever it is that goes up and dump or don't touch whatever it is that goes down. It has been like this in the stock market for decades.

The mass is such a great counter indicator that it pays off trading against them. If they just held their coins instead of speculating with them they would do well, but even that is too difficult for them. It's just retarded.
1070  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-02] Bitcoin Criminals Set to Spend $1 Billion on Dark Web This Year on: July 02, 2019, 10:52:36 AM
It is estimated that around $400 billion is spent per year on illegal drugs* alone, never mind weapons, credit cards, pornography, fake documents, and all the other things you can buy on the dark web. As long as fiat is widespread, cold hard cash will always be the most anonymous method.
The funny (or sad) part is that most of what criminals use Bitcoin for is put against the all time high so that it looks worse than it actually is. This is a form of statistical manipulation that is not uncommon for news outlets.

Nothing in the world will ever come close to the illegal activities that are financed with fiat. News outlets can twist numbers in whatever way they want, it's futile to even remotely come close to fiat in that field.

I'm glad that nobody really cares about this anymore. Back in the days it might have shocked people, but that's no longer the case. I see more people actually counter these articles by pointing out how bad fiat is when it comes to criminal use.
1071  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Uganda says cryptocurrency is risky on: July 01, 2019, 11:32:59 PM
It's risky, better avoid investing in it, especially not more than you can afford to lose, bla bla. The central bank here said the same thing where after that highly respected legacy economists echoed the same thing.

It's quite interesting to see how after all the years they haven't changed one bit. Long term speaking the price has always gone up by orders of magnitude, but this is too bullish for Bitcoin so they leave that out.

All they want you to know is how Bitcoin went from $20k to $3k, because that empowers their anti Bitcoin narrative, or that Bitcoin can become worthless overnight. It has become too predictable. So much that people no longer care.
1072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance Site Layout Suddenly Changed? on: July 01, 2019, 10:56:51 PM
The new layout is very good, but I'm used to the old one 
I'm not sure yet if I like the new look or not, but I'm so used to the old look that I prefer to keep using that one. It took me a long time to know every button location and what it's meant for, and I'm not going to relearn everything again.

I still use the blockchain.com explorer for the same reason too. It's so familiar that it's difficult to motivate myself to completely switch to a different explorer. If something works, don't break it. In this case, don't switch.
1073  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Iran seizes 1,000 Bitcoin mining machines after power spike on: July 01, 2019, 10:08:37 PM
The problem with mining is just having cheap electricity isn't favourble for mining. You need take into consideration several factors like the initial investment for hardware, BTC price, mining pool to join.
The complete picture obviously matters, but cheap electricity grants you an edge over the miners that don't have cheap electricity and therefore need to stop mining the moment it has become unprofitable.

If you are open to alts, there are many alt coins which will be more profitable
This is about Bitcoin miners. There aren't all that many altcoins with the same algorithm you can use SHA256 ASICS for. The alternative is Bcash or BSV. The few other SHA256 coins are almost worthless and not worth mining.

As for altcoins being more profitable to mine, I don't think so. Try to build an altcoin mining rig and mine Ethereum, Litecoin or Dash, I wish you good luck with that. Mining as a whole has exploded in the last years. It's no longer a niche.
1074  Economy / Speculation / Re: What the Effing Hell is Going On!?!?! on: July 01, 2019, 08:45:25 PM
No point in laughing at someone for their mistakes. On the hindsight when BTC crosses this year's ATH, this correction, no matter how low it sinks, will not matter.
It surely does matter, but people however don't think it does because they are busy being upset about how they bought the top and 'lose' money now the price goes down. It blinds them in such a way that they are losing out unnecessarily.

Buying at the top and seeing the price tank afterwards is something I would see as an opportunity. It allows me to lower my average buying price by buying the dip so that I reach my break-even point much sooner.

In my opinion the market as a whole is still bullish, but people need to understand that corrections and consolidation phases are common in every market. What did people think, that the price would reach $20k next week?
1075  Economy / Speculation / Re: Chart - Comparison - Very similar on: July 01, 2019, 07:24:51 PM
I think most of these comparisons are done by crypto influencers on YouTube so that they have content for their videos, and people as easy as they are to be convinced of something swallow it without resistance.

Charts, regardless of the asset, contain similarities throughout the whole time of their existence. It so easy to find a similar time frame and chart patterns that you can make a chart look as bullish or bearish as you want.

In hindsight you're either right or wrong. If you're wrong I'm sure we won't be hearing about it from you, but when you're right you'll make sure people know that you were right, and that while it was just a lucky shot.
1076  Economy / Economics / Re: Any other areas that blockchain can be used? on: July 01, 2019, 06:40:39 PM
Projects based on blockchain cannot be tempered and hence are secure.
That only applies to distributed ledgers such as Bitcoin and Ethereum. Most projects we see nowadays don't aim to be decentralized, but offer scalability and extremely fast settling transactions.

People need to understand that you don't need an inconvenient and very expensive immutable ledger for every application. At one point they will also understand that they don't need a blockchain at all.

Databases are more efficient and allow for more scalability. Another thing is that it can be semi tamper proof by having a log-system in place. Not as secure as Bitcoin of course, but secure enough to do the job.
1077  Economy / Economics / Re: Using credit cards to buy bitcoin in the bull run on: July 01, 2019, 05:43:48 PM
Credit card is something weird that I have never really understood, I have seen people spend it like a regular debit card and I never understood why.

I mean I know someone who literally spends all month from their credit card making themselves a debt and then pays it when he gets his paycheck, even have some leftover for cash needs. He could literally stop using credit card and live with his pay check, he does make enough for it, he doesn't need credit card at all, it is just that he uses it because he has some installments on it for couple of stuff and it is easy for him to pay with card than cash so he continues using it. So for people like him, if its not going to make any dent in your economy at all, maybe its not a bad idea at all, maybe it would work for them to invest with credit card.
I think credit cards give people peace of mind in the way that they know there is money available to them at any time of the day. I know someone who uses his credit card just for that reason.

It has gotten more difficult for the average person to make ends meet with how the income hasn't seen an increase in the last couple of years, and that while due to inflation there is like 2% less purchasing power every year.

I also know that certain people tend to use their credit cards just to buy cool things such as a new smartphone. They can't afford one directly but buy one on credit hoping to pay it all back before the 12 month period.

I personally have never used a credit card. My current debit card has an option to unlock credit card features, but that's something I will not touch. I am against spending money I don't have.
1078  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is bitcoin dominance climbing in this bull market? on: June 30, 2019, 07:10:02 PM
Perhaps people have come to realize what the real coin is in crypto space.
in 2017,lots of people spent money in altcoins and ICOs thinking that btc price was too high but it went on upto 20K, this time round, they don't wanna miss the rise to 20k atleast  Grin
Coins with or without fundamentals, it doesn't really matter for rookies, especially if their unit bias makes them avoid Bitcoin to invest in a basket of low value shitcoins, which a lot people still do to this day. Greed and ignorance will always be present.

Traders don't care about the coin they trade either as long as there is some degree of liquidity to have their positions filled relatively quickly. All they basically need is a chart and volatility, what coin in crypto doesn't have that?

I think we're still at least a few years away from investors actually paying attention to the fundamentals, but then again, fundamentals are very subjective. What you consider good fundamentals might be poor fundamentals to me.
1079  Economy / Speculation / Re: What the Effing Hell is Going On!?!?! on: June 30, 2019, 05:58:03 PM
If it went down to 10.9k then it went down even more I would be scared too but after it went down it skyrocketed back up so we have nothing to fear.
The range is getting tighter and tighter, and with that said, we wicked below $10.9k for a moment today. I personally think the range between $10-$10.3k holds more importance, but we're not there yet (for now).

The thing with testing the same support levels is that they tend to get weaker after every touch, just like the spikes up do by forming lower highs. There is however nothing to be afraid of. People wanted a correction, so here it is.

People just need to accept that the price going down as hard as it went up is normal for Bitcoin. Stop being so shortsighted and learn how to benefit from shorts if you worry so much about short term fluctuations.
1080  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-29] Bitmex Sees $500 Million Bitcoin Short Liquidation in 24hrs on: June 30, 2019, 05:31:21 PM
It's not as bad as it looks. Arthur Hayes (CEO of BitMEX) once said that the average leverage use throughout his platform hovers around 8x. That means $500 million/8 = $62.5 million worth of actual Bitcoin shorts.

I would say that with how volatile the price has been lately that people tend to use even lower leverage counts, so it could very likely be less than $62.5 million. It's hard to say when the only volume reported is leveraged volume.
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