Thanks,
He's been discrediting the OP of the other scam thread, trying to deny his skype id, saying he hasn't sent any pms since the 17th.
if you deal with someone one skype that claims to be someone here, ask for a PM. Otherwise there is no proof the guy on skype is the member from here. And even if they do pm you, I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is significant value to accounts on here anyway. |
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You guys need to get some common sense.
Hero Member, legendary member, whatever is useless, I'm a hero member and no one on this forum knows how trustworthy I am because I have done zero transactions with anyone on this forum. Judging from the signature campaign thread that is worth 34 bucks a month or 12 cents a post, which is nothing. Why do you think someone would hesitate to throw that away for your 75 bucks or a larger amount?
Second, about default trust. Lots of issues there. First, it's nice that confirmed liar with a 0 default trust quick seller is here to save the day. That right there shows the system is broken. He provided bogus escrows for his own trades, but has got enough people on the DT list to give him positive reviews to get him back up to 0, so that right there proves it's useless.
Second, default trust is not meant to be the forum police. Some of them have taken upon themselves to tag people that other people have scammed, but the point was supposed to be you let people know who you did legit trades with, and who ripped you off, letting other people chime in on other people's trades will just lead to more failure because how can someone really be sure about how a trade went down between other people.
Third, even if they were the forum police (and/or good at being the forum police) you would still be an idiot to trust anyone. How many big scams have bee run on this forum by supposedly "trusted" members. Now with the trust system, and even before that system was put in? All of the significant ones.
If you want to make a trade, find a legitimate escrow, or prepare to get ripped off, it's very simple.
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true randomness has not memory to worry about historic results BUT
after a long winning or losing session you will end getting an opposite streak
because fair distrubution will eventually turn by true random nature.
scams may exist but long sessions on fair random games can result like this
posible to happen good or bad will turn to almost always if session is long enough
*a little edit*
dice game is very fast in most sites so the chances of really rare things (in a row wins/losses)
is almost certain if you play for hours to see them all very fast /
slow games like real life roulette you may see the same but 10k spins is like 24/7 for some months
compare it with a 10k dice spins you may do in couple of hours and you will get the meaning.
i hope my post helps a bit.
Your post does not help because it is completely wrong. It doesn't get back to a fair distribution by definitely having an opposite streak to get back to normal, it gets back to "fair" over time by doing more and more trials that happen at the correct frequency. As to the OP. You are going to lose when you make bets with a negative expected value. Period. On most dice sites you expect to lose 1% of every bet you make, if you keep betting, eventually you will lose it all, because that's what happens when you don't walk away with profits if you get them. |
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Red or Black is best strategy i think, it's 50/50, you win or you go home, so it's all about luck
but still the chance is under 50% because i had several times play roulette and very difficult to not lost during play this game but i was heard that some people could won a lot from playing this game People winning a lot is due to their luck. Some people hit it rich and win millions of dollars from the lottery, does this mean anyone can win the lottery? Yes, but a very slim chance. If you have luck you can win a lot, otherwise you'll lose it all. i hate this game it the chance of wining is really low so you must have extreme luck or you keep trying to have Just dont gamble much. It is always cost you more money than you win money and that is not good. You can gamble on red and green. That is much cheaper and it is also fun, but you have always risks. on green? please explain I think he want to say "black" instead of green, because the most popular color on gambling is red (for losing bet) and green (for winning bet).  No need to think about it so deeply mate, sometime people made mistakes lol And someone is going to throw you a few pennies for posting this bullshit. Awesome forum. Anyway, there are 3 colors of numbers on roulette. 18 are red, 18 are black, and 1 or 2 are green depending on where you are. 0 and 00 (if it is there) are green, so bets on red or black (and odd/even and 1-18/19-36, and all the groups of 12) all lose when it lands on a 0 |
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It's profitable for the casino. Read the other 100 page thread.
For a fun math hw. Go to your favorite dice site, calculate the odds of winning x in a row or losing x in a row, then figure out how much you would win using martingale and compare that to how much you would lose during that time using martingale.
The odds will be close to the same, and you will lose much more than you would win for a streak with the same odds. that's why martingale is stupid.
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The reasons you are even "allowed" to withdraw "principal" from stake miners are all the reasons they gave at the beginning that they were better than cloud mining.
In cloud mining you can't withdraw your principal because the principal is spent* on miners. That doesn't apply to stake miners because the principal is just spent on other coins that could be given back at any time.
You can't withdraw the principal for cloud mining because you would take a loss by selling the machines, and impact others.
That shouldn't be an issue with stakeminers, unless of course the value of all those coins dropped significantly after they were purchased.
It's too bad no one had enough experience in the cryptocurrency world to foresee that problem when this thing started. Too bad nobody at the time questioned this plan or if Leroy had enough experience to choose the right coins to make sure this wouldn't happen.
O well, that's a shame.
*coins are actually spent on hookers and blow for the thieves, which ironically have more resale value than miners.
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Well, i'll chime in on this, seeing i was one of the first "investards" not leaning either way, just to say i put up 1 btc and got it back and left my initial investment of .1 btc in and its dying a slow agonizing death, and when i asked for a withdraw i got this... And i quote: "Icon, I can surely put you on the list but that list is already over 20 weeks out. And for guys as small as you that sucks. Sometimes with an account that small the withdraw process alsone would have you almost paid out before your turn comes up for withdraw. But I surely can put your account in withdraw status. Just send a direct email to payments at StakeMiners.com for us top have a record of the request please." cyberpinoy That and when i look at my weekly earnings it has this: How Much You Have Been Paid So Far 1.22615299 BTC Now pay attention to the paid back 1.x btc that's my own btc back  Icon Wait, if you ask for a withdraw today you won't actually receive any coins for 20 weeks? At least you got your original coin back, sucks for the people too stupid to figure out that this was a scam, because if you got more than you put in back, and the price of all their coins has plummeted, there's no way for everyone to get paid back. |
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This scammer is providing a great service to the community.
If you are stupid enough to fall for this, you are going to lose your coins anyway, at least this guy is just ripping off the band aid fast and taking a bunch at once instead of bleeding you to death over time like some of the scam "companies" out there.
Are people really dumb enough to send coins to an "escrow" without communicating with them on their own?
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You're probably right. And we know for sure that BigVern hid the "theft" for 18 months so he was basically running a ponzi scheme from that point on.
I think it is criminal act to run a Ponzi scheme. A guy called Madoff (?) was sentenced to be in prison due to this. That's right, Ponzi schemes are illegal. I don't know why the justice system isn't going after him for running a Ponzi scheme. There is a class action suit against him but he should be investigated for criminal activity even if money was stolen from the site. He basically took money from people like me to pay out withdrawals to other people. This is not a ponzi scheme. A ponzi scheme is when the operator tells you they are investing the money for you, like with Pirate, GAW, etc. This is more like a failed bank that lost/took a bunch of the money and tried to keep going. It's also illegal, but at least ask the authorities to look in the right direction. Prosecution or not, you are unlikely to get any money back because it's either really stolen or hidden by Vern. The warning signs were there, you should have gotten out when you could have. It would be nice if he gets sent to jail, but that probably won't get your money back. Learn waht warning signs you missed this time to prevent yourself from ending up like this again in the future. I did try to get my money out. They did not allow me to withdraw it. When someone steals money or scams someone, its not always the fault of the victim for not doing something correctly. Sometimes the person that steals the money is at fault. In fact, the person that steals the money is always at fault. Please don't blame victims. You probably waited too long, or didn't want to take the partial loss by buying some overpriced shitcoin that you could withdraw and are now sitting with a total loss. Cryptsy and/or the thieves definitely shoulder most of the blame, but anyoen that say here with their fingers in their ears while withdrawal delays and other issues were springing up over time get part of it. I'm not saying that to make you and the others like you feel bad, but so you guys can see what went wrong and how you could have done more to protect yourself so this doesn't happen to you again. |
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You're probably right. And we know for sure that BigVern hid the "theft" for 18 months so he was basically running a ponzi scheme from that point on.
I think it is criminal act to run a Ponzi scheme. A guy called Madoff (?) was sentenced to be in prison due to this. That's right, Ponzi schemes are illegal. I don't know why the justice system isn't going after him for running a Ponzi scheme. There is a class action suit against him but he should be investigated for criminal activity even if money was stolen from the site. He basically took money from people like me to pay out withdrawals to other people. This is not a ponzi scheme. A ponzi scheme is when the operator tells you they are investing the money for you, like with Pirate, GAW, etc. This is more like a failed bank that lost/took a bunch of the money and tried to keep going. It's also illegal, but at least ask the authorities to look in the right direction. Prosecution or not, you are unlikely to get any money back because it's either really stolen or hidden by Vern. The warning signs were there, you should have gotten out when you could have. It would be nice if he gets sent to jail, but that probably won't get your money back. Learn waht warning signs you missed this time to prevent yourself from ending up like this again in the future. |
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The point of setting it up is to get idiots to give you money.
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I was always curious to know how sports books decide the odds they offer. I think they just copy them from big bookmakers lol
You hardly see any diference between them, and i don't think every site has the possibility to analyze events and decide odds.
There has to be some copying of them. If you have drastically different odds than another (or all the other) sites, you will open yourself up to people making bigger bets at your site by trying to arbitrage or make "sure bets." It's not an issue if you are on the right side of things, but the penalty for being wrong when you are on your own with a line is much bigger than the penalty if you are wrong with everyone else. |
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Whatever happened to the real Paycoin? I remember mining a Scrypt coin called Paycoin (PYC) on my GPUs.
vlad2vlad "sold" the name to Ganza for a bunch of xpy and hilariously tries to pump it up every now and again. |
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Most of the time you are playing against the house.
Some websites are "betting exchanges" where you can bet against other people.
In each case, the odds will be offered and you can accept or reject them.
The house calculates their odds by doing research on the games and offering odds where they think that they will win money. They can change the odds over time to guarantee themselves a win and/or encourage people to bet on one side or the other to reduce their variance.
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your strategy is indeed quite interesting and quite good. but I think the strategy you use is a strategy that the origin without wearing a gut instinct. In the roulette very instinct needed to make a profit, if you managed to hone your instinct, can be sure you will get a very big advantage in roulette
I can't believe people pay other people to post shit like this. instinct in roulette? GTFO. |
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Losing all your money using martingale doesn't mean anything is broken but your brain, because that's what happens when you do martingale with a -ev bet.
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I was curious enough to invest some play coins last year and after complaining i got it out end of January. Tx or it didnt happen, of course  Please DONT Interpret this as endorsement or anything like that. Your withdraw has been processed and the details are as follows: Invested Amount 0.31900414 BTC 2% withdraw fee 0.00638008 BTC ------------------------------------- Total Withdraw 0.31262406 BTC Payment was sent: Withdrawal Address: 1PboFDkBsW2i968UnehWwcSrM9Djq5LcLB https://blockchain.info/tx/d8c27b64a12f333131a3ff412d6e5e3e446952f16073c9a689d3a02dfc86dd58Initial Invested 0.20000000 BTC Total Reinvested 0.11900414 BTC Total Withdrawn 0.31262406 BTC Total Payments 0.00133458 BTC Your Profit on this investment 0.11395864 BTC (56.90%) Thank you for using StakeMiners.com. -- Leroy Fodor (cyberpinoy) StakeMiners.com CEO Don't mean to pry, but does that mean you invested .2 btc and somehow were able to withdraw .31 total, even though the value of the portfolio dropped greatly over the course of investment? The fireworks are going to be great when he runs out of money. I really dont want to get sucked into this thread as supporter of a fscking scam, but since you asked me directly... Somewhat, at least. I sent SM 0.2, set the returns to auto invest the benefits and got 0.31 back. Glad you got out before they actually run out of money. Can't believe he has gotten around to admitting how short he is of money and is still paying out incorrectly. If any other people invested are reading this, get out NOW. The last one out will be left with nothing, he changed how much he is claiming to have because he thought it would make "trolls" stop, but he's still paying out as if he is running a profitable enterprise. The .2 you gave him can't be worth .31 when he paid you, yet he gave it to you anyway. He apparently won't realize that he has no money until he actually has to pay it all out. |
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Why would someone with knowledge of fixed games risk it by selling it to randoms on the internet (that can be someone in a position to stop them) instead of just betting on the games?
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Have you ever heard of players with extremely good hearing, who after the sound of rolling ball are able to determine roughly the number that will hit?
I heard about a guy who, after two laps of ball in roulette was able to determine - more/less - the sector in which it stops. Always bet at the last moment. Of course, he did not always succeeded, but the probability have greater than the greatest lucky beggar.
How would that even work? How would the sound of the ball touching one piece of the wheel tell you anything about where the ball is going to land n a completely separate piece equipment? When the ball goes on the wood, some sections seem to have specific sound. After a number of attempts someone with very good hearing can calculate roughly how many seconds the ball will roll - that is in what more or less place will to stop. That is why casinos do not allow to use stopwatches. The numbers aren't on the wood. They are on a separate piece that is spinning separately. If anything you could use super good vision to see what numbers are where when the ball starts spinning, and then figure out a sector where it is going to land if the wheel and the ball are always spun at a constant speed (which they don't, again making this BS), but saying this has anything to do with sound, like every other roulette strategy in the world, is 100% bullshit. |
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Because they are a scam site that is running out of coins so they need to reduce the amount that they need to pay out.
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