Bryan, let me be perfectly clear because you don't seem to be hearing me.  I will not take your bet until you take my bet.  The entire point of your argument is that BFL is a scam, not that BFL won't ship before X date.  Until you either admit that you are lying about BFL being a scam or you back it up with a bet, we will not move forward. 

We can discuss the terms of YOUR bet after you agree to one of the following two things:

A) You are lying about BFL being a scam.
B) You prove that you actually believe that BFL is a scam and do so via a non-trivial bet.

The only reason I'm even proposing a bet is because you are an admitted "professional" gambler, and this ties in with your self-image.  So, name your price on the domain name either in USD or BTC that you would sell it to me for outright and that will be the value you place on the domain name.  At that point we can discuss the actual bet and how it would be carried out.

After we come to an agreement, I will take you up on your 20 BTC bet you have proposed.

Yes, EMC was the first ASIC ready pool.

I will get the QR code issue resolved here ASAP.  Thanks for pointing it out!  I wonder how long it's been broken and no one has mentioned it!

Do you have a reading comprehension problem, Bryan?  I said I would take your bet as long as you prove you aren't lying when you say the BFL is a scam by taking me up on the aforementioned bet.  You want me to bet on my words but you are unwilling to bet on your own words.  By your own unwillingness to bet me on your own statements, everyone with their eyes open can see that even you yourself don't believe your words enough to bet 100 BTC on it.  It's clear you are lying and lying about BFL being a scam.  I will take your bet, Bryan, as long as you take mine.  You are the only one holding up this bet at this point.

I'll tell you what Bryan, since you are so unwilling to put any real money down on your own words, lets do this:

You bet your precious domain name that you registered with my name against BTC.  That way, you are only out the price of a domain name when you lose.  You tell me how much you'd sell me that domain name for if I were to buy it outright and perhaps we can come to an agreement where I wager BTC against the domain name. 

The new US1 is installed and I just switched the DNS over.  Please report any errors with US1, but it's the fastest US based server. US2 should not have any more LP problems either.  With all 3 US servers operational now, I am going to start looking at getting the Euro server back up and then the PACRIM server.  Long time coming, but it's coming.

Micon, you are mentally deficient.  You simply can't grasp the situation apparently.  I will take you up on your bet as long as you back up your claim that BFL is a scam.  You are refusing, which demonstrates to me that you are liar and do not even believe your own brand of bullshit.

Here's the bottom line: You are making a claim.  You have nothing to back up this claim.  You are not willing to even stand by your claim through a bet.  The only possibly conclusion one can come to:  Bryan Micon is a liar and a scammer.  Heh.. professional poker player indeed.  No wonder you are a failure.

Le sigh...

1) It's called "burden of proof" and it's on YOU.  YOU are the one making the claim, thus YOU are the one require to prove it.  This is a fundamental tenant of making an accusation such as this.

2)  You are a failed professional gambler, not a professional gambler.  But that is neither here nor there.  Your claim is BFL is a scam.  The terms are: BFL is not a scam and will deliver ASICs.  The termination date of the bet is there to facilitate an end date to the bet, not to determine if BFL is a scam or not.  Technically, unless BFL folds up shop and runs away with the money, your accusation is false.  However, out of the goodness of my heart, I am giving you a termination date to the bet can be resolved prior to it's regular resolution period.  

3)  I would like to bet.  Your claim is that BFL is a scam (See your point number 1), therefore the terms of the bet are whether or not BFL is a scam.  The bet you are trying to place is not about whether or not BFL is a scam.  The bet you are trying to place is "When will BFL ship."  These two statements are contradictory and mutually exclusive.  If you think BFL is going to ship at some point, then you do not believe BFL is a scam.  However, if you believe BFL is a scam, then the shipping date is immaterial to this bet.  So trying to force the bet to be based on a shipping date is not betting on whether or not BFL is a scam.

If you would like to bet that BFL is a scam, I will bet with you.  However, since you are refusing to do so, I expect a public apology and retraction of the fact that you think BFL is a scam.  If you are unwilling to bet on this, being a professional gambler and all, you are lying about believing BFL is a scam.  After you apologize and publicly retract your false allegations or you confirm your false allegations in the form of a bet stating as such, I will be happy to enter into the wager you are proposing.  

Until such time as one of the two above mentioned scenarios happen, let it be known that Bryan Micon is a liar and has no evidence to back up his false allegations, in addition, he is unwilling to back up his false allegations in the form of a bet, which is a reasonable form of confirmation given that he is a self admitted "professional gambler."

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No, you won't take my bet, I will take yours, so long as you back up your lies with the above bet.  But since you are declining, can I assume you are no longer claiming that BFL is a scam?  Or are you going to continue to claim BFL is a scam, yet not back it up with a bet?  I expect a full apology and a public retraction of your claim that BFL is a scam, since you are unwilling to back up your words.

I hereby once again challenge Bryan Micon to a 100 BTC or 2000 BTC (or any number in between) wager that BFL will deliver ASICs in 2013 in escrow.

The end date is given just to satisfy the bet conclusion.  Bryan has stated repeatedly that BFL is a scam and under that claim, it is logical to assume that BFL would not ship ASICs at any time, be it 2013, 2014 or 2015 etc...  Therefore, a wager of 100 BTC to 2000 BTC to validate his claim is on offer.

Furthermore, I have offered to escrow the funds in advance for this wager.  To this date Bryan Micon has refused to back up his claim that BFL is a scam.  To this date Bryan Micon has been unable to produce any evidence that BFL is a scam, yes Bryan Micon continues to make this claim but refuses to bet on it.

Bryan, your claim is that BFL is a scam.  Your claim is NOT, and I must repeat this because you seem to conveniently forget it, it is NOT that BFL won't ship before a given date, but is otherwise a legitimate company.  Therefore your terms and conditions are fallacious and disingenuous, and thus I will not accept them until such time as you accept the 100 - 2000 BTC wager.  After such time as you accept the wager 100BTC - 2000 BTC wager I will gladly accept your wager of 20 BTC with all your caveats.  First prove to me that you aren't lying about your claims by backing them up with a wager, until then you are just a dishonest little white trash boy who makes claims he can't back up.

See there you go lying again, Micon.  You can't help yourself, can you?

I will bet you 2000 BTC or even 100 BTC, but you continue to waffle and refuse.  Go on, prove me wrong.  Bet me 100 BTC.  Stop with all these caveats and loopholes you keep inserting into your bets. Back up your words, be a man.  But we both know you're just a pathetic little boy trying to play in the big kids playground. 

I would still like to know how that investigation going, did you uncover anything yet?  You have yet to answer this, Bryan.  Are you so incompetent that you can't uncover any evidence of a scam from someone who you believe is an idiot or are you so gullible that you know you are being manipulated and can't do a thing to stop it?

I just tried it, it seems to be working fine.  You have to have data in the watt field and the KW/h field.  If either of them are 0, then by default you won't get an accurate reading, since without knowing those two variables, it can't calculate your power cost.

With regards to betting on your own words, I will gladly bet you 20 BTC on my own words, immediately after you bet me 2000 BTC or even 100 BTC on YOUR own words, which you continually refuse to do.

So, I would still like to know how that investigation going, did you uncover anything yet?  You have yet to answer this, Bryan.  Are you so incompetent that you can't uncover any evidence of a scam from someone who you believe is an idiot or are you so gullible that you know you are being manipulated and can't do a thing to stop it?    Hitting a little too close to home for you, Bryan?

This is just absolutely epic:


You don't even see how ludicrous your statements are.  I can't believe you even typed those words, you are CreativeX level of stupid, that is absolutely amazing.

And this is why you are a failed poker player and not running a successful business.  You are simply unable to understand simple concepts, which is a prerequisite to being able to function in every day society, something you clearly have not mastered yet.

By the way Bryan, how's that investigation going, did you uncover anything yet?  You have yet to answer this, Bryan.  Are you so incompetent that you can't uncover any evidence of a scam from someone who you believe is an idiot or are you so gullible that you know you are being manipulated and can't do a thing to stop it? 

Epoc:  Right now, US1 and US2 are pointing to the same server, there's about 11k LPs going out at once when a new block hits.  Try switching to US3 and see if that solves the problem.  I will be dropping a new US1 in the DC probably Monday (maybe this weekend), and then moving traffic back to it, which should alleviate the US2 issue.

Are you under the assumption Bryan is rational and able to think above a 2nd grade level?  That would be your first mistake if so... Bryan is emotionally and mentally at the stage of "The wold revolves around me and I will throw a fit when people don't do what I think they should do." (This is the same stage most 8 - 10 year old are at)  Just check out his conspiracy theories about how there's a world wide cabal of people working to stymie his reddit posts.

How's that investigation going Bryan, did you uncover anything yet?  You have yet to answer Bryan.  Are you so incompetent that you can't uncover any evidence of a scam from someone who you believe is an idiot or are you so gullible that you know you are being manipulated and can't do a thing to stop it? 

Us1 and US2 are the same server at the moment.  Try US3.

I have a new US1 built and I will be dropping it in the DC as soon as I can get through the snow to downtown.

Epoch - I am looking into your issue.

Yeah, I'd want to ignore the fact that I was a tool as well, if someone pointed it out like that, too.

So how's that working out for you Bryan?  How does it feel to know, without a doubt that you are either being manipulated and are completely powerless to do anything about it or you are so utterly incompetent that you can't manage to expose the lies and scam that you believe BFL to be?

Awww did I hurt your widdle feewings again?  

Lets break your statement down for a second here, according to you, either one of two things is happening here:

A) I am a master manipulator and I use my wily skills to pacify all the BFL customers and "bully" them (and you) into doing what I want.  
or
B) I have no idea what I'm doing and somehow, against all odds, I've managed to get you, the famous Bryan Micon to "investigate" me and my company with your amazing deductive skills, thereby lending credibility and attention to BFL.

In case A) you are aware that I am manipulating you and yet you are still allowing yourself to be manipulated.  That makes you my little tool. (Hah, you catch the cock reference? Comedy gold here, folks).
Or in case B) I'm a complete idiot (according to you) and you are somehow unable to expose my lies and scams in any way, shape or form.  That makes you a tool.

You are allowing yourself to be willingly manipulated or you are unable to best a complete idiot with your massive intellect.  Good show, old chap!

Yes Bryan, you are truly a master of logical deduction, upstanding citizenry and intelligence.  

Wow, what a coincidence, so am I!