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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 02, 2015, 08:10:47 PM
hi guys i have sent 10 crave to my other wallet and its all ok

Stato: 303 conferme
Data: 02.05.2015 13:32
A: stake 02 crave qt1 BtfXccbmcauLT6YP7NijcRwXbD1fNJEzf1
Debito: -10.00 CRAVE
Commissione transazione: -0.00003 CRAVE
Importo netto: -10.00003 CRAVE
ID della transazione: b7aabd4b269ccbf8307338d31fef5275a3c0192b10f4c9e758c7615bbf99fe05-000


then I have sent 9.33333324 another time and don't arrive, but they have gone???
Stato: 0/non confermato
Data: 02.05.2015 13:33
A: CBzfwsGfAPqG7LA4Ezr2TDHG8EQE64Mvyu
Debito: -9.33330324 CRAVE
Commissione transazione: -0.00003 CRAVE
Importo netto: -9.33333324 CRAVE
ID della transazione: 2d7b0067076a978b953f4b81ecf4af5bb027d45f81413e9f6073df9b9ae4775d-000




 I have make repairwallet and the cravet come again to my wallet, I have tried to sent another time and tell me:
 error: the transaction was rejected...

what its wrong? its not the first time this happen, another time its was first the masternodes its launch, and I have lost I think 30 crave, now I have lost another 9.3, this is not possible whats wrong, please help me, and don't tell me because its in conflit, and they arrive, that is not true, because the other time they don't arrive.
If you have access to the other wallet, export the private key from the wallet you are trying to send from and import them into the reciever.
hi yes I have access to the other wallet, but where I find the private key?
Assuming craveqt
goto help/debug/console
at the bottom put
dumpprivkey <craveaddress>
then got to other craveQt
goto help/debug/console
at the bottom put
importprivkey <craveprivkey>  [rescan=true]
I have do it but says
Error: Wallet is unlocked for staking only. (code -13)
run first


Code:
walletpassphrase YOURWALLETPASSWORD 180

EDIT: page 600  Shocked thats craves lucky number ^^
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 02, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Uploaded an executable of darkpoold for those on win7. Let me know if works.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=51947573573707255640
Instructions
Download and extract to folder
make crave.conf in crave folder
make BLUR folder in roaming
(both of the above were detailed in prior posts)
turn on or restart crave.qt or craved
DO NOT STAKE
open cmd window by pressing windows btn and r , type cmd
or
start, cmd
cd path/to/extracted/folder
from here, use exactly as one would darkpoold.I included conf.conf file where you can change the password and user name so you only have to type  --config-file=conf.conf
to start type
darkpoold.exe  --config-file=conf.conf server
wait for blocks to catch up
open new terminal and go to darkpoold folder
 type
darkpoold.exe  --config-file=conf.conf help
for list of commands
eg  darkpoold.exe  --config-file=conf.conf market --get-asset=BLUR
enjoy


if you want to stake and have darkpoold running, you should copy the crave folder to another location on your computer with the cave.conf file. you will need to start it from cmd with path/to/craveqt.exe --datadir=d:\other\cravefolder --conf=ifwanttospecifycrave.conf --listen=0
tvm, will test soon. very good yay  Smiley
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 8BIT [*][Dark Masternodes][Mandatory Update][Roadmap Stage 4] on: May 01, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Just wait until priceless...

Nothing interesting with this coin..

We have a very good community and a developer over here. Your fud is not welcome. If you are not interested keep buying shitcoins. Goodbye.

As for the mn price increase, I suggested 256 or 512 earlier but I am okey with 112 too. I don't know if it would be a great idea to increase MN price now.

A higher count for masternodes would be great for short term financial growth. However, it does not fix the long term question. The important question is "what is the point". Lots of people are creating coins with masternodes, but if the masternodes have little to no purpose than you have wasted your potential. The dev is working extremely fast and clearly knows what they are doing. I would even be willing to guess that they had something to do with DRK before they changed to DASH. We need a strong network and a good dev who will actually do something with the masternodes. Dark send and torrents is a brilliant idea. Especially if there are in game purchases that require 8bit. Currently we have a small supply with very low demand. Once people actually NEED 8bit for in game purchases you will see a gigantic rise in price. Unfortunately this takes time. But as long as the dev continues to work and continues following the roadmap we should all see a great return. More importantly though, if the dev does what is planned this may be a technology, and a coin, that won't go away.
as i understood the way roadmap shows stage 6 should make masternodes useful, this will be interesting. i guess it will take some time to get there.
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 01, 2015, 09:37:48 PM
yikes someone just burned 1000 crave, burn address @ #12
yep  Grin https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crave/address.dws?Bs8Haw3nAsWf5hmLfKzc6PMEzcxUGSYjxf.htm
less than 7000 blocks to go, at the current block speed 89 seconds/block takes around 7 days untill Burn period is over.
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 01, 2015, 08:35:53 PM
I was holding off on dropping a new Windows wallet build until I could include the escrow manager.  If you want a build sooner let me know, I can do one with the I2P stuff.  The code is already up in github.

The issue with darksend is that there is a hardcoded collateral address in there, which I find a little scary.  I want to look at it and evaluate it before making that stuff visible in the UI again.

jase there are a couple of ways to achieve connection encryption like that.  We use something like that under the hood for the escrow orchestration and market infrastructure.

Comments like that, only proves how much expert is ICM.  Smiley

This is the difference of a good coin with a dev who knows what he is doing, after hearing your comment about darksend, you guys can notice that crave is legit and not a copy cat like too many other coins, you can chill and retire here, just buying coins at these stupid cheap prices.

This coins has more development in a month than others coins in all their life. Crave is rock solid coding coin, just picked up more 1K today.  Cool

Absolutely true, but I don't understand why the price is so cheap, and why people buy another shitcoins... I really don't understand...

One more time,
don't worry people,everything good needs some time.We're just starting  Wink
if someone still doubt the icm just look at github update and you will get the picture  Wink
https://github.com/industrialcoinmagic/crave/tree/master/src
1086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 8BIT [*][Dark Masternodes][Mandatory Update][Roadmap Stage 4] on: May 01, 2015, 08:31:10 PM
MN price too cheap..

Can someone help me understand why this is?

only about 107K coin, total would be about 100btc? This is madness or am i missing something?
and people dumping into 70K walls more madness.

Wonder if i;m still sleeping or not
i am glad i could stock up some mn at those ridiculous prices  Grin market cap only 20k$ if dev continues to work further i only see upward potential. so nice investment atm imo, but as usual only invest what u can afford to lose.
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: May 01, 2015, 08:27:07 PM
I was holding off on dropping a new Windows wallet build until I could include the escrow manager.  If you want a build sooner let me know, I can do one with the I2P stuff.  The code is already up in github.

The issue with darksend is that there is a hardcoded collateral address in there, which I find a little scary.  I want to look at it and evaluate it before making that stuff visible in the UI again.

jase there are a couple of ways to achieve connection encryption like that.  We use something like that under the hood for the escrow orchestration and market infrastructure.
very nice icm, very nice indeed   Cool i am at no rush but if the guys can't wait and compile by them self, why not.
1088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 8BIT [*][Dark Masternodes][Mandatory Update][Roadmap Stage 4] on: April 29, 2015, 08:53:09 PM
As of this post, 193 masternodes are live on the network.

200 by the end of the day guys...

I'm honestly shocked at how many are being set up...  this is crazy
yea noticed the same thing  Grin when i set up 10 of mine few hours ago there was around 170. it caught my attention by being so cheap atm to get some i just couldn't resist  Cheesy
1089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 29, 2015, 08:49:51 PM
see what i find statistic on 15 april  https://twitter.com/mikegeister/status/588413124216131585

Did you all understand that ? Smiley
yea 301 post deleted until 15. april . new record on bct, today one of mine got deleted also  Grin i guess for cheerleading lol
1090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: April 29, 2015, 08:43:40 PM

I know what i2p is. I'm curious of it's function in the wallet. Is it just being used for simple p2p connections?

ask to devteam of your shadowtrash coin.
Why you guys are trying to implement it for months without success?
common emilio man, be helpful to community and stop throwing stones to others. there are better ways to support crave.
1091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 29, 2015, 06:47:21 PM
Crave Native I2P:




OMG Holy Cow i knew it   Grin hahah copycats gonna be mad mad mad ahahaha icm on fire!!!! yesssss
1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 8BIT [*][Dark Masternodes][Mandatory Update][Roadmap Stage 4] on: April 29, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
hello 8bit community  Cool i was bored today so decided to buy and setup 10 masternodes. everything went smoothly, already getting payments  Grin curios where the dev will take this, watching. cheers
1093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 29, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
Come on ICM don't let SLING drop the market first. Apparently it's coming may 7th
no way dude, sling will drop market after icm open source it  Wink
1094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 29, 2015, 08:16:12 AM
may interest some of you guys, its from xai thread
Hello Kartaba.
the math you show between crave and drk are backwards.

1x Masternode = 576 blocks * 10% of the reward = 1036DRK/day …………… = ~1036
8x Masternodes = (576/8) blocks * 10% of the reward = 129DRK/day………...= ~1036
16x Masternodes = (576/32) blocks * 10% of the reward = 32DRK/day……….= ~1036
128x Masternodes = (576/128) blocks * 10% of the reward = 8.1DRK/day……= ~1036


that the darkcoin math above is showing is how much the network plans on spending on masternodes daily (1036DRK) and how the rewards change based on how many masternodes enter the system. if there was one masternode it would receive the entire days masternode payouts (1440/2.5 min blocks = 576 blocks per day * 10 % of reward at this hashrate = ~1036 coins per day. as more nodes are introduced this 1036 needs to be split up amongst the participants. the math shows that with 128 masternode participants, each be getting their share on average 8.1 dark per day. (8.2*128=~1036)

the crave masternode calculator is not factoring changes in the overall system like that. the calculator isn't smart enough, if you put in 10 or 100 the reward increases linearly (27 or 270) this is the calculator not the network. crave is averaging 960 blocks per day and its masternode reward is .66666666 per block so the masternodes split ~640 coins per day. according to the darkcoin math above 1 crave masternode would make 640 coins per day while 1 of 128 masternodes would recieve 5 crave per day.

these are all based on averaging and variance, I have one crave masternode which has received 38 selected payments, in the same time period another has received 8. I hope in the future the runt will preform better. the masternode system over time should reward all participants equally.

the thing you should be examining is why pay the masternodes 10% of darkcoins reward per block, or 66% of cravecoins coinbase reward per block. with darkcoin the masternodes preform the anon mixing, along with the network confirmations to allow instantx transactions possible. with POS coins instantx may not be reasonable yet due to forking. that leaves anon and any yet to be developed use cases.  

also darkcoin only allows 1 masternode per host as far as i know where as cravecoin and clones allow you to set the masternode port to whatever and run as many per system as you like. the reason darkcoin suggests highly that you are familiar with network admin and security is because most people host theirs on a VPS. also 1000 darkcoins is not a trivial ammount of $ and when your a masternode your ip is known the the network (your ip is known to the network no matter what wallet-qt you run) but in the case of knowing a masternodes ip you know there 1000 dark sitting behind that computer. Since that hard reccomendation to use VPS use security etc etc, they have implemented a way to run a "cold masternode" where your coins can be safely in an address you control on your home computer while being part of a masternode on some other server. though im not exacty sure how that works...  I guess maybe the security recommendation applies when the node is worth 3000$ where as a crave node is worth $135. since all the new masternode coins dont have to high a marketcap yet im sure the security recommendation will come back around as they encounter growing pains.

as usual always ask for best practices and follow throught best you can. if your not comfortable securing your coins in masternodes, stick to staking or <trading?>.
thanks jasemoney for nice overview, mr. google said that even dash/darkcoin masternodes payment is based on luck factor so its not guaranteed you will always receive the same (8.1 dark per day) reward running them. pretty similar to crave reward system. check 5 posts down
http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/26tvv8/how_much_profit_can_i_potentially_make_setting_up/
1095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: $XAI Sapience AIFX - Decentralized AI | 11% PoS | PlumeDB,IBTP on Testnet on: April 29, 2015, 08:07:22 AM
Hello Kartaba.
the math you show between crave and drk are backwards.

1x Masternode = 576 blocks * 10% of the reward = 1036DRK/day …………… = ~1036
8x Masternodes = (576/8) blocks * 10% of the reward = 129DRK/day………...= ~1036
16x Masternodes = (576/32) blocks * 10% of the reward = 32DRK/day……….= ~1036
128x Masternodes = (576/128) blocks * 10% of the reward = 8.1DRK/day……= ~1036


that the darkcoin math above is showing is how much the network plans on spending on masternodes daily (1036DRK) and how the rewards change based on how many masternodes enter the system. if there was one masternode it would receive the entire days masternode payouts (1440/2.5 min blocks = 576 blocks per day * 10 % of reward at this hashrate = ~1036 coins per day. as more nodes are introduced this 1036 needs to be split up amongst the participants. the math shows that with 128 masternode participants, each be getting their share on average 8.1 dark per day. (8.2*128=~1036)

the crave masternode calculator is not factoring changes in the overall system like that. the calculator isn't smart enough, if you put in 10 or 100 the reward increases linearly (27 or 270) this is the calculator not the network. crave is averaging 960 blocks per day and its masternode reward is .66666666 per block so the masternodes split ~640 coins per day. according to the darkcoin math above 1 crave masternode would make 640 coins per day while 1 of 128 masternodes would recieve 5 crave per day.

these are all based on averaging and variance, I have one crave masternode which has received 38 selected payments, in the same time period another has received 8. I hope in the future the runt will preform better. the masternode system over time should reward all participants equally.

the thing you should be examining is why pay the masternodes 10% of darkcoins reward per block, or 66% of cravecoins coinbase reward per block. with darkcoin the masternodes preform the anon mixing, along with the network confirmations to allow instantx transactions possible. with POS coins instantx may not be reasonable yet due to forking. that leaves anon and any yet to be developed use cases.  

also darkcoin only allows 1 masternode per host as far as i know where as cravecoin and clones allow you to set the masternode port to whatever and run as many per system as you like. the reason darkcoin suggests highly that you are familiar with network admin and security is because most people host theirs on a VPS. also 1000 darkcoins is not a trivial ammount of $ and when your a masternode your ip is known the the network (your ip is known to the network no matter what wallet-qt you run) but in the case of knowing a masternodes ip you know there 1000 dark sitting behind that computer. Since that hard reccomendation to use VPS use security etc etc, they have implemented a way to run a "cold masternode" where your coins can be safely in an address you control on your home computer while being part of a masternode on some other server. though im not exacty sure how that works...  I guess maybe the security recommendation applies when the node is worth 3000$ where as a crave node is worth $135. since all the new masternode coins dont have to high a marketcap yet im sure the security recommendation will come back around as they encounter growing pains.

as usual always ask for best practices and follow throught best you can. if your not comfortable securing your coins in masternodes, stick to staking or <trading?>.
thanks jasemoney for nice overview, mr. google said that even dash/darkcoin masternodes payment is based on luck factor so its not guaranteed you will always receive the same (8.1 dark per day) reward running them. pretty similar to crave reward system. check 5 posts down
http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/26tvv8/how_much_profit_can_i_potentially_make_setting_up/
1096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 27, 2015, 10:48:41 PM

Looks like its going to be an exciting week.

For your sake let's hope ICM releases it THIS week because the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight is this saturday!
Cheesy  Gonna be a big week.
yay  Cool magic show soon!!!
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: $XAI Sapience AIFX - Decentralized AI | 11% PoS | PlumeDB,IBTP on Testnet on: April 27, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
well for sapience, you need stakers and node operators and coins for the database operations and coins for liquidity on the exchange... 8k is more than 1% say you get 50 nodes... thats 2/3 the current supply. the point of masternodes is to have enough that one person cant just own a few and start de-anonymizing the transactions.

*edit not sure if theres any studies on a reasonable number of nodes to represent a network well. a number thats low enough to incentivize participants to remain node runners, but high enough to make sure the nodes wont be a weak link in the system in any way.

I wouldn't go below four, its really cheap so most everyone has a chance to get in now

What would be the incentives for running one?
In our case, we actually have a future use case for masternodes - neuromining pool operations.  There is a lot of development effort between here and there, but it is an actual useful purpose for them.

I think we have to be careful to strike the right balance when it comes to the collateral amount.  I've been watching some of the latest batch of coins lately, some are lower and some are higher.  It seems that if you make it too high it seems to limit the interest and participation.  I need to put together a spreadsheet and run some numbers and see what makes sense.
great, can't wait to get my own xainode  Smiley
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 27, 2015, 10:22:57 PM


Let's get our market out there before SLING.


you know sling was most likely the first crave clone? if anything theyll always be several steps behind with the 'developer' asking icm to fix issues with pos nodes
was thinking the same thing, we know they announced market but won't deliver until icm makes it open source Wink
1099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: $XAI Sapience AIFX - Decentralized AI | 11% PoS | PlumeDB,IBTP on Testnet on: April 27, 2015, 09:58:41 PM
lets do this 3k per node :p
i think 3k per node is good too

will xai have hipos static pos rewards? that would be really cool. can you imagine?  Shocked
agree 3k per xainode seems reasonable, 2k is even better   Grin would give incentive for small holders to run xainodes. can't wait for joe to deliver this tech, we know that joe is elite and everything he does he does it better.  
1100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | Markets Soon =Embrace The Dark= on: April 25, 2015, 09:22:37 PM
My lost crave wallet never to be seen again ...dam hard drive ha ha Tongue

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C3jd5rfX...
7,587.0 CRAVE   1.35 %   31 days 21 hours
no backup? hmmm
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