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10921  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FlossinRod tried to buy trust and censors their threads on: April 23, 2015, 06:15:15 PM
AFAIK, the accused user, Flossinrod is inexperienced with the forum.

Quote from: FlossinRod link=action=profile;u=429385 date=removed
I'll be getting off bitcointalk for awhile due to me getting constantly harassed
[snip]
Thanks
If you are going around giving out loans to people with negative trust then you are going to get yourself scammed. This is a pretty clear case of a confidence scam. This person is building up trust so people are more confident giving out loans to scammers then once you are comfortable giving out the loans they will bombard you with loan requests, none of which will get repaid.

lol, I am not an idiot. Tongue

Quote
Lend at your own risk. Preferably with collateral. But he is not a scammer as of now.

Thanks for the warning tho. Cheesy
He has negative trust. The only thing (except the hopes of pulling a confidence scam) compelling someone to repay a no collateral loan is the threat/fear of getting negative trust when they scam. If they have negative trust already then they have no reason to repay their loan.
10922  Economy / Services / Re: YoBit.Net - Signature Campaign - Realtime Payouts (daily) on: April 23, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
Saying that payments are automatically does not make it so. You will gain a significant amount if confidence if you utilize a trusted forum member to handle payments for participants, they would obviously not be automated however it would be much more certain that they will receive payment in exchange for the service they provide you (signature advertising).
10923  Economy / Services / Re: YoBit.Net - Signature Campaign on: April 23, 2015, 04:49:16 PM
Just wanted to let you know that your rates are a bit on the low side, especially for full members and members.

I'd also strongly suggest that you accept escrow otherwise you would have difficulty attracting very many participants due to the lack of trust.
10924  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [H] Paypal My Cash [W] Bitcoins / WU on: April 23, 2015, 04:40:12 PM
sold.

keeping the post open for when i have more.
You probably shouldn't agree to do work for someone who will only pay you in a way that you cannot easily convert what they give you into your local fiat.  You should either have them pay you in Bitcoin, pay you in some what that allows you to easily spend you payment locally, or stop attempting to launder money via PayPal MyCash cards. 
10925  Economy / Lending / Re: Seeking Short Term 0.05btc Loan Valid Collateral on: April 23, 2015, 04:30:59 PM
You need to somewhat know what you are doing in order to process a withdrawal however once you understand the instructions it is really not that difficult.

You would however be somewhat more vulnerable to theft via malware as you would need to somehow store your keys outside of coinbase, although they force you to encrypt one of them with what they consider a strong password.
10926  Economy / Lending / Re: Seeking Short Term 0.05btc Loan Valid Collateral on: April 23, 2015, 04:26:34 PM
As a FYI, it would probably be better to use coinbase's multisig vault over their "regular" vault as if you need to withdraw funds immediately you can simply sign a transaction with the two keys that you control and broadcast the TX.
10927  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Who are interested in buying my requirements to mtgox. on: April 23, 2015, 04:13:12 PM
At best you should expect to receive 25% of your balance, and that will take a long time to materialize. I would put a max value of the above rate. However the fact that it could take years for the bankruptcy process to finalize, the exact formula as to how creditors will be repaid, and uncertainty regarding if the transfer of liabilities will be recognized by the court would greatly reduce the value.
10928  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FlossinRod tried to buy trust and censors their threads on: April 23, 2015, 03:32:06 PM
AFAIK, the accused user, Flossinrod is inexperienced with the forum.

Quote from: FlossinRod link=action=profile;u=429385 date=removed
I'll be getting off bitcointalk for awhile due to me getting constantly harassed
[snip]
Thanks
If you are going around giving out loans to people with negative trust then you are going to get yourself scammed. This is a pretty clear case of a confidence scam. This person is building up trust so people are more confident giving out loans to scammers then once you are comfortable giving out the loans they will bombard you with loan requests, none of which will get repaid.
10929  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [H] Paypal My Cash [W] Bitcoins / WU on: April 23, 2015, 03:28:46 PM
Why would you possibly want western union if you had already paid cash with PayPal my cash cards? I would think it would be a lot easier if simply didn't buy the my cash cards then you would never have to pay any kind of fees.

I just saved you a bunch of money Wink

Unless of course the PayPal cards are somehow stolen
10930  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling 50BTC ...Cash In Hand/Branch Deposit/Bank Transfer (AUS) on: April 23, 2015, 03:14:26 PM
Hi,
Lucky night on bitdice, looking to exchange 50BTC @ Preev.com rate +5% per coin via Bank Transfer/Cash Deposit (I'm with Commonwealth) or Cash in hand. Willing to discuss location privately.
If you choose bank transfer need to wait a few days for it to clear before escrow releases funds. You know the drill.
ESCROW IS REQUIRED! No one goes first, escrow until the cash is received in bank or in person.
If you require a signed address, no problem. BitDice Withdrawal:
http://prntscr.com/6x7u54
Thank you.

P.S Also accept skrill for amounts under $100. You go first or escrow for skrill.

Hi, with using escrow with skrill - how will escrow confirm funds sent/received and release btc?
ideally both parties would act honestly and the seller will simply advise to release escrow once he receives the funds. However in the event of a dispute the escrow can check the business records of skrill (or whatever other payment method is used) to resolve any dispute to confirm if funds were actually received or not.
10931  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 23, 2015, 02:40:38 PM
More proof QuickSeller does not to deserve to be on default trust

- Aiding and abetting a ponzi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1021240.msg11055166#msg11055166
- Selling hacked accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884261.0
- Non-transparent escrow behavior (indicates scam attempt) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585.msg11034617#msg11034617
- Using multiple shills to push up th eprice of his sold accounts

Credit to an anonymous source for providing this proof Smiley

Ouch.

Well that certainly is interesting.

What does Dogie have to do with the Quickseller account? That be my next question.


@TheGambler

Currently there is a strong strong undercurrent of covering of threads with these accounts all backing Dogie and Quickseller. Given that there is certainly more digging that should be done into who the hell this Quickseller really is and what sort of trust should be given someone who uses multiple accounts to boost sales and run up prices. Unethical and why would anyone ESCROW with someone you don't know their real name and some sort of identification or IRL meeting. Most of these long con scams in hardware revolve around any number of people being anonymous and shilling the shit out of the hardware.

You start seeing patterns in these accounts all gravitating towards covering each others asses it begs the question is it one person not 4 or 5?

Ask your source about Dogie and his relationship to Quickseller he might know.

You can always tell...
But where is this taking place? Where can I take a look for myself?
Im sorry bae, but if you seriously start to listen to what this guy says then you will find absolutely nothing on me lol. He will give you a bunch of unsubstantiated claims that not only make zero sense but even if true would not be wrong. There is actually a good chance that you would like me after talking to that guy........and we can't have that Wink haha
10932  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 23, 2015, 02:37:42 PM
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Not sure what you're getting riled up about. I've defended you by pointing out that you haven't invented lying, cheating, or theft Undecided
You don't really think of yourself as the root of all evil, do you?
I think you have implied that I was doing all of those things on here which I have not.

Never in your life Huh
I remember you asking me yesterday to prove that ACCTseller was your sock. And look, the very next day, with no effort from me whatsoever... *poof*! No more need for proof Smiley
Okay. What does that have to do with anything? There is nothing wrong with having an alt account and it is against no rule. Having an alt account did not assist in any kind of scam, any kind of lie or in any kind of cheating.
>I think it is being a little hypocritical if you are saying that it is bad that I have a "sock" account when you are yourself a shill account.
The difference being I've made no claims at being someone who belongs on some cheesy trust list, of being honest, or even of being a decent human being. I'm using an alt account to prove, by example, of just how ridiculous and intrinsically flawed this sort of thing is.
You still have not pointed out any transgression that I have done.

Sure I have, though not in the last two sentences
Hang tight, I'll restate my accusations, and even bring up a few more Smiley

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>Also I have never used any account to support my own position.
You've left negative trust from at least 2 of your accounts to whateverhisnickis. If that's not supporting yourself with your alts, what is?
As I mentioned previously in one of the other threads, the first negative was left by ACCTSeller was because of something I felt was untrustworthy (trying to significantly weaken the trust system and to make it significantly easier to scam as a result), and was appropriate that the community be warned, but was not appropriate  for him to have a "warning:trade with extreme caution" tag. Once I found out that he had scammed, I left the more harsh negative rating from this account as anyone who has actually scammed (and not repaid what they stole) should have a "trade with extreme caution" tag.

You asked for an instance of your multiple accounts working in consort to "support [your] own position."
I have given you an example of you leaving multiple negative ratings, from two accounts that you control, to tspacepilot. Whatever your rationale, it is a clear case of using multiple accounts to "support [your] own position."

Now on to what you're being accused of.
You're accused of being unfit to be on the default trust. One of the multiple reasons for this is your artless use of multiple accounts with which, to use your phrasing, you "significantly weaken the trust system and to make it significantly easier to scam as a result."

True, you're the only person on the default trust to abuse it, you're far from unique in that respect. What makes you noteworthy is the exceeding ineptitude with which you proceed to go about it.
In short, your lack of savoy faire - the social graces required of all but the lowliest of street hustlers, combined with unwillingness to follow the advice of your betters, makes you an embarrassment to those of us associated with these august fora.

"So where are these new examples of my duchebaggery," I almost hear you ask. "You promised!!"
Allow me to direct your attention to the PM in which you ask me to start a new thread on tspacepilot:
It would probably actually be best if you did reopen a thread so he can be called out and not censor others from agreeing that he actually did scam
I have taken the time to explain that doing so would only annoy the less quarrelsome members of this community, and that everyone's best interests would be best served by letting the matter drop. You thought you knew better and... here you are, embroiled in the same aspy drama that's an embarrassment not merely to everyone involved, but to every passer by Sad

I'd like to remind the ladies and gentlemen of the jury that this is the Meta section, the Supreme Court of these boards, so to speak, where extant law is put to the test and consigned to the flames when found lacking. What has brought us here, sirs and madams, under these most unseemly circumstances?
Idiotic forum policies condoning account peddling and pay-to-spam advertising.

In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrasts.

LOL what? Did you read what I said? You are going between talking with a good amount of logic and talking like a crazy person (no offense).
10933  Economy / Lending / Re: Is there any chances for me to get a loan without collateral. on: April 23, 2015, 06:03:32 AM
No
10934  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Comment deleted from quickseller escrow service discussion on: April 23, 2015, 04:43:33 AM
Any reason for the self moderation?
To keep it clean from trolls. For the most part it will not be used.
This was the reason why your post was deleted. You are a troll (and a scammer but that is irrelevant to this specific action).

Do you seriously think that your past is not going to be looked into when you start to troll someone? Trolling someone is the quickest way to attract someone's attention, and it is probably not a good idea to troll someone who has a well known reputation of being able to sniff out scams when there is public evidence that you have scammed in the past. You really are a moron.
10935  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 23, 2015, 04:36:37 AM
Moreia - you turn 30 years old this year. You seriously need to stop with this HYIP scamming BS. I would not be surprised if multiple government agencies are looking for you based on the number of times that you have stolen large amounts of money from people. You are going to slip up sooner or later and when you do, you will most likely end up in jail, probably for a long time.

I don't like you and you don't like me, however be smart and take my advice, it will be good for you
From teen to 30 year old?
I won't take your advice, I planned on being legit here until I was framed. Moreia alias had nothing to do with nextponzi, that was TheGambler.
I am legit on another persona here...anyone finds me all I say is what are you talking about and show them the hundreds of trades I've done on my legitimate account lol

Your advice, from a person who has secrets and is at breaking point of being those secrets revealed.

I would rather be open with my actions rather than keep secrets and get found out later, like you have Wink
I never said that you were a teen, although you do have the maturity of one. I have it on good authority that is your age. IDK if you take my advice but don't complaint to me when you end up in jail.

You are a lot worse at covering your tracks then you think you are.

Any secret that I have on here is nothing more then for my own privacy and would not make me look bad in any way on here.

Not sure what you're getting riled up about. I've defended you by pointing out that you haven't invented lying, cheating, or theft Undecided
You don't really think of yourself as the root of all evil, do you?
I think you have implied that I was doing all of those things on here which I have not.

Never in your life Huh
I remember you asking me yesterday to prove that ACCTseller was your sock. And look, the very next day, with no effort from me whatsoever... *poof*! No more need for proof Smiley
Okay. What does that have to do with anything? There is nothing wrong with having an alt account and it is against no rule. Having an alt account did not assist in any kind of scam, any kind of lie or in any kind of cheating.
>I think it is being a little hypocritical if you are saying that it is bad that I have a "sock" account when you are yourself a shill account.
The difference being I've made no claims at being someone who belongs on some cheesy trust list, of being honest, or even of being a decent human being. I'm using an alt account to prove, by example, of just how ridiculous and intrinsically flawed this sort of thing is.
You still have not pointed out any transgression that I have done.
>Also I have never used any account to support my own position.
You've left negative trust from at least 2 of your accounts to whateverhisnickis. If that's not supporting yourself with your alts, what is?
As I mentioned previously in one of the other threads, the first negative was left by ACCTSeller was because of something I felt was untrustworthy (trying to significantly weaken the trust system and to make it significantly easier to scam as a result), and was appropriate that the community be warned, but was not appropriate  for him to have a "warning:trade with extreme caution" tag. Once I found out that he had scammed, I left the more harsh negative rating from this account as anyone who has actually scammed (and not repaid what they stole) should have a "trade with extreme caution" tag.
10936  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 22, 2015, 11:24:40 PM
@MadZ

Haha, maybe you don't know that much about TG, but if you did, you would know he has no credibility and quite a few personal reasons to go after QS.

His credibility is not an issue here, though it's nice that he got Qickseller to own his sock. Clearly a case of a bad person doing good.
See how well things work out? I mean, gives me the sort of epiphany that usually requires powerful recreational chemistry.
This really is the best of all possible worlds Smiley
I think it is being a little hypocritical if you are saying that it is bad that I have a "sock" account when you are yourself a shill account.

Also I have never used any account to support my own position. Even in threads when both accounts posted, I would only post to defend that account.
10937  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 22, 2015, 11:20:52 PM
Moreia - you turn 30 years old this year. You seriously need to stop with this HYIP scamming BS. I would not be surprised if multiple government agencies are looking for you based on the number of times that you have stolen large amounts of money from people. You are going to slip up sooner or later and when you do, you will most likely end up in jail, probably for a long time.

I don't like you and you don't like me, however be smart and take my advice, it will be good for you
10938  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 22, 2015, 11:14:05 PM
Not sure what you're getting riled up about. I've defended you by pointing out that you haven't invented lying, cheating, or theft Undecided
You don't really think of yourself as the root of all evil, do you?
I think you have implied that I was doing all of those things on here which I have not.
10939  Other / Meta / Re: personal messages question on: April 22, 2015, 11:04:16 PM
If you want you can set your delete time for your private message.

like that  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=prune

do whatever you want. take the control Smiley

Keep in mind that will only delete messages in your mailbox.  Any messages you have sent will still remain in the recipient's mailbox.  Smiley

Thank you. I wouldnt know that.

Depending on the settings the PMs might still exist if both versions are deleted, because they have been send via mail as a notification.
Even if you don't receive email notifications, copies of the PM will still be saved in the forum's backups after they are deleted from both the sender's outbox and recipient's inbox. PM's (and other things) are backed up roughly once every 24 hours (although I don't believe there is a set time for the backup - at least not to my knowledge)
10940  Other / Meta / Re: Re: how do I make new threads? on: April 22, 2015, 11:00:30 PM
[...]
I'm pretty sure other people sell accounts here, pretty sure Quickseller wasn't the first account seller either, in fact I believe I know who the first was and I do not believe it was Quickseller. In addition, I'm not sure if you visit the marketplace section, but if you do, you might see an account for sale... or 10.... maybe 50. The freemarket, it works!

I'm sure he's not the first to lie, cheat, or steal ether. Doesn't make what he does good, merely unoriginal.
Re. "free market, it works": clearly not this time Undecided

Point to one time on this forum that I have lied, cheated or stole from someone. I guarantee that you cannot find one.

You may be against the sale of accounts, however it does prevent scams - although the explanation is off topic
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