No. You said
You said nothing about a failed transaction.

However to address your concerns, it is not only appropriate to leave negative trust when someone scammed you, otherwise when new users get scammed, the scammer will never receive actual negative trust.

The negative trust was the result of scammy behavior. Period

It would probably not be a good idea to do business with the OP considering that he has a history of engaging in shady deals with vague terms that end up with his trading partners on the loosing end

I don't think, I know that the two of you are the same person, I just want to see if you admit it (which I know you won't), or deny it, which you probably won't either because you are going to "exercise your right to remain silent" although I do have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that you are the same person.

I am not backing down from my original claim, I am just pointing out that there is more to this thread then the negative that I left you.

I have never dealt or even interacted with that person in the past. To say that I previously disliked him and gave him a negative as a result is ridiculous

Scammer will often agree to use escrow and then disappear once escrow is set up with the hopes that escrow will take too long to respond so their trading partner will simply agree to send first (and end up getting scammed). All of the OP's terms demands were met yet he still backed out of the deal.
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I also found your alt account, sed which you have used to shill for your own opinions multiple times in the past so I would not doubt if you are behind some of the shill accounts in this thread.

Much more concerning however is the fact that you had replied to yourself with your sed account at least 7 times in recent months while both accounts were enrolled in a paid signature campaign, defrauding da dice as you had used both accounts to enroll in (which was also against the rules). In case you want me to prove that you were responding to yourself, please see this (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).

I also know why you are out to "get" me - I was a frequent advertiser on the Overview of bitcointalk signature campaigns thread, and you were a strong critic of selling an advert on that thread. There are a number of examples of you criticizing Biacoininformation aka Mitchełł for selling advertisements, however here is one of you shilling for the removal of the advertisement (did you vote twice?), and here is one of you being highly critical of the ads. To top that all off here is one of you just being an asshole.

edit: If anyone is curious, sed has a spam score of ~249.86, and a score above 80 is a "mega spammer/mega shill" and a score of 40 is the upper range of what is "normal"

Like I said before, I knew you weren't going to admit to scamming because that is the kind of person you are.

Secondly, you are strengthening your argument by saying this is from almost three years ago. This is a lie. The thread in question was created in September 2013, and considering that it is now April 2015, the activity in question was from just under 19 months ago, which is roughly 1.5 years ago.

To address your concern that you did not deny using a bot "3" (1.5) years ago and "cannot" recall why, the consensus was very clear that you had admitted to scamming TF and CoinChat and that you were in the wrong. 
It should also be noted that there was exactly one person backing you up (zackclark70) who did not seem to particularly like TF in the first place and was likely biased.

At this point, I am fairly certain that you scammed CoinChat out of some amount, and that like in September 2013 you are trying to weasel your way out of accepting responsibility. Except this time you are resorting to intimidation to get me to remove the negative.



See below. This is not the first time that you have claimed that negative trust against you was some kind of personal vendetta against you. Sure we have exchanged heated words in the past after you started trolling me, but I can assure you that the reason for the negative does not have anything to do with personal feelings.

(Note that in this post you admitted to withdrawing more then you should have.)
This one is somewhat unrelated, but still somewhat related. You are admitting that you are making a false allegation, therefore there is no reason why anything you claim someone else is doing should be trusted.

I don't get anything special in return for being in the default trust network, despite that this statement is clearly meant to be a threat. If BadBear decides that he wants to remove me from his trust list then that is his decision. I am not going to make a huge deal out of whatever decision he makes, although I don't think he will remove me for this.

I think it is fairly clear that you are a scammer, you are a spammer and that the trust rating is appropriate.

There are a good number of clearly shill accounts in this thread, including gamblebitcoin (who is a brand new account that happens to be taking your side), TerminatorXL (who is an alt of CozyLife who was banned for making shit posts and has written articles about his position against the sale of accounts on a site with no editorial integrity [lol]). Additionally neither LaudaM, nor erikalui is on my trust list and as a result their opinions are not considered without any facts/logical arguments to back them up. Vod simply said that I should not trust TF's word, which I do not. 

An e-check is well a check you could easily prevent the buyer from ever gaining access to the funds in a number of ways, including but not limited to placing a stop payment on the check before it processes on your account, later claiming you did not authorize the transaction, withdrawing cash from your account prior to the transaction posting to your bank account. Additionally if you were engaging in something like check kiting then your bank may display a higher available balance then you really have and the bank will ultimately not pay the check.

Above all of this, there is no guarantee that the OP can legally write checks off of the account he is sending funds from and as a result anyone selling bitcoin from him would be receiving stolen funds (which would not only be reversed from your bank account but could also start a criminal investigation against you).

tl;dr - don't deal with the OP

edit: contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as a check "clearing" the banking system. Banks will sometimes delay the availability of funds to your account for a certain amount of time that it will likely take for them to receive notification of any reversal, however a reversal can be done long after these holds have expired

Right. It really is not difficult to measure how much potential activity an account can reach with enough posts. I created a spreadsheet that makes it fairly easy. It is more time consuming then a normal account trade though

Well for clairification here is where it was proven that you were in the wrong.


I know you won't admit to scamming because that is the kind of person that you are, you won't come clean when caught doing something you shouldn't be doing but instead try to find loopholes to weasel your way out of it. You take no personal responsibility for your actions.

You do not care about the community. You spend 5 minutes between posts which is a clear indication that you are a profilic spammer, I would be curious to know if there is any evidence of you using a bot to post on bitcointalk, especially considering how many posts you had previously made in a short amount of time.

1- you admitted to the substance of the claims therefore you scammed. It was not 3 years ago.

3- if you don't trade then you should not care about the trust system yet you try to get it changed

8- most people who are questioning my rating are shills whose opinions have been ignored (if they make any fact based arguments then they will be taken into consideration).

All your other points don't matter because the negative was given because there was a claim that you scammed, I looked into the claim, did not find the person making the claim credible however you admitted to the allegations therefore you admitted to scamming.

I didn't trust TF's word, I read through this thread and found that it was admitted that the OP cheated TF out of an unknown amount of Bitcoin. The amount is/was disputed however I think it is pretty clear that that the OP scammed. MZ quoted the relevant posts here although there are more posts that point to his guilt.

I don't trust TF and don't like putting pressure on people to help/repay him however a scammer is a scammer.

Well since you clearly aren't capable of pursuing an adult conversation I am going to consider this matter closed.

Not that you should care about any negative trust anyway since by your own words you don't conduct any trades on here. Feel free to continue to post once every 5 minutes that you are logged on

This is probably not a good way to buy accounts. It would be a better idea to use a forum based escrow service. I don't think those "instant buy" services provide any kind of protection to the buyer whatsoever.

are you the author of this article?

do you not even know how to Make it less obvious who your alts are when trying to scam users?

I didn't take TF's word for it. I took your word for it. You admitted to running a bot, earning money from it even though doing so was against the TOS, intentionally hid the fact that you were using a bot while trying to maintain plausible deniability, and as a result you received money that was not due to you.

Why don't you look back in your records and give more concrete answers. Feel free to take more then 5 and a half minutes between posts to check. Since it seems like you are denying all of the above except 1, you need to explain why you admitted to the above previously (and why you didn't deny receiving notifications previously).

Also TF had not yet scammed as of the time of the allegations so I wouldn't write off what he says immediately without thought. 

Alright tspacepilot scammer, I am not sure why you opened this thread, especially without even a single PM (who is the hothead now?) asking about the trust.

I will reconsider the trust that I left you. I do however have a few questions that you need to explicitly and clearly answer in order for me to make an evaluation:
1 - Did you use a bot on CoinChat used to automatically make posts?
2 - Did you use the above bot with a username with "b0t" as part of it's handle?
3 - Did you receive anything in writing from anyone, ever, that informed you that you were banned from CoinChat?
4 - Did you receive anything in writing from anyone, ever, that informed you that any bot must have the term "bot" in it's handle?
5 - Did you withdraw funds from CoinChat that were "earned" with such bot?

If you dispute 1, 2 or 5 then why did you admit to them in this thread, and if you dispute 3 or 4 then why did you not dispute these facts in the above thread?

Please do not claim that you purchased the account because just yesterday your post history indicates that you personally participated in the above thread and the OP here is written in a way that says the above thread makes a claim against you personally.

There is no statute of limitation on being a scammer, the fact that a scam happened a long time ago does not matter, the reason negative trust was given recently was because I only saw evidence (admission of guilt) of such a scam recently. Despite your paranoid claims, there is no personal vendetta.

I know that in the mining section, any post that an employee makes in their employers' threads are automatically considered on-topic because if the employer wants to let their employees look like idiots then the forum is not going to stop them. I don't see why the same rule couldn't be applied to other major Bitcoin companies.